DJI finally did _something_ about the comfort and optics issue that so many had with the Goggle2. I can see everything clearly edge to edge in these. The field of view is smaller, yes, but that's not what I'm thinking while flying. Since it's at 100% of the display configuration, it looks natural. With the headstrap, you can angle it upward off your cheekbones and a nose a bit to relieve the bridge pressure if you're someone like me. The face mold needs to be reworked to make the comfort perfect, but it's probably not going to happen -- the head pillow/strap system is an alright compromise. Definitely better than Goggle2 for me in those categories, great overview Ian.
It's interesting one of the reasons Fat Shark gave for their HD3s having a narrower FOV than their HD2s was that it was not possible to engineer blur free edges with ther HD2s wider (50deg or so IIRC) than the narrower HD3s FOFV (45 deg IIRC). I may have the FOVs of the Fat Sharks wrong - it's been years since I've read FatShark spec sheets, but it sounds like DJI might be having the same challenge.
@@1337fliteHD2 FOV was 50 degrees and HD3 dialed that back to 42 degrees but you are correct nonetheless in your assessment that this was an issue that Fatshark also faced and it was a reason for scaling back the FOV. I think DJI simply failed to do enough facial and optical diversity testing, or they would have figured out that G2 were a bad goggle design. Somehow, even with their multi million dollars of resources ended up making the same mistake Fatshark did many years prior and it’s shockingly stupid and surprising to me tbh. I called it that DJI would NOT do anything to fix the G2 also, because their options for doing so were limited. And that anyone unhappy with them should return them. Then they release the Integra which is what the G2 should have been...
Ian, thanks for the review! You go into so many technical details! (battery from inside, FOV overlays, RF spectrum, ...) Pleasure for my technical mind. You're unique source of many important info that the community wants to know.
Thank you for this video, I'm very new to the drone world and already in dire need of some FPV. As someone with a lot of experience wearing NVGs in a military setting, that counterweight from the battery pack sounds like a godsend regarding neck fatigue. I don't know how much the goggles might weigh compared to the NVGs I wore, but any weight in the front of the neck is always putting an additional strain on the neck muscles and I'd rather avoid that as much as possible. I understand I could just attach the battery pack on another model to the back strap, but having it already integrated is a huge plus for me. I think you've sold me on the Integra as well as earned a subscriber. Keep up the good work and thanks again!
Glad they gave it a name like the Integra. Goggles 2 goggles v2 like what the hell. been using a battery clip for the back of the gogglesv2 and short cable and they are perfect. It is better to have the batteries interchangeable. Dislike when gear is being reviewed by others and they don't even have the actual product they are reviewing. Great video and information as always.
Thanks for the info but I still like the goggles 2 with the focus adjustment. At first I hated the touch pad but now I'm used to it and it didn't bother me anymore.
Doing the math: With my V2 goggles and their 54 degree FOV, it's soooo much FOV that I, and most I've heard, dial back the FOV. In the menu we can adjust the image size by 10 degree increments. I personally use 80% and think that's much better because the 54 degree FOV is too immersive and it looks like you're trying to take in an IMAX like FOV from a goggle...Kinda. lol So, if we do the math and take that 54 degree FOV and multiply it by 80% we get 43.2 FOV. Gee, that's oftly similar to the 44 degree FOV of the Integra goggles. Hmm, sounds like what I'm already used to with my V2 goggles. It would appear to be just perfect for me, and maybe a lot of folks! Now if we could just rid ourselves of the MY PILLOW/BATTERY CLUSTER FUC% ON THE BACK! LOL 🥴 Maybe some really smart, genius type guy, can figure out how to completely remove that My Pillow CF and let us use the lipo in the pocket technique many of us have been used to for several years! Who at DJI thought this pillow deal was a good idea?! More weight on my head....great! 🤷♂🤦♂
when you were flying and talking. the pinched nose sound and only able to breath through the mouth tells me all I need to know. Thanks for taking one for the team. We also know that DJi headstraps wear out badly/quickly. Throw an internal power cable into the mix and that does not sit well with me at all. V2s are still my go to. Plus I can add head tracking for fixed wing with those as per my vids. Cheers
Just to note the flight Audio went though heavy noise removal (resolve voice isolation) as it’s windy as hell. The stock audio is much less nasal. I’m not going to say it’s perfect on the nose however it’s better than my G2. However the overall face shape is the largely the same as it’s still not perfect. It’s better but not perfect.
@@MadRC wonder if they will release the faceplate as a spare part. Seems like they have added a little bit of plastic to push the face away slightly... Think that might make the burred edges worse on the g2 mind
Great content and review. I like what I see but a huge exception. What would have been a bright idea by dji is to utilize new screens to achieve the 120hz refresh rate the v2’s have. It’s a noticeable difference when flying aggressive freestyle and it baffles me.
i think we kinda lack good info on what its like to use the v2's with 03 units, 16-9 cameras versus native 4-3 cameras, i noticed a big difference switching from 16-9 to 4-3, more than i anticipated. so i'm imagining going back with the 03 units as a definite loss of vertical fov, possibly experts can fly fine with it but beginners and non experts would really miss that extra fov.
I'm surprised DJI didn't make the built-in headstrap battery replaceable. Could have been done fairly easily and would have provided another way to bring in sales. Everyone wants multiple batteries "just in case".
Great review, Ian. Maybe now it’s time for a comparison between the v2s and the Integras. With the new firmware update for the v2 goggles and legit support for canvas mode the only advantage I see with the Integra over v2s is the oled screen. Prove me wrong! Man, I love the way my OSD looks now ❤❤❤
Yeah but the oled screen is supposedly a lot better? I just bought them will post here my experience. Currently using the v2 Goggles. I am just hesitant on the fitment of the nose at this point. I tried the Goggles 2 and did not like them at all. Immediately returned those.
@@publicname515 I tried the goggles 2 on at bestbuy and surprisingly they fit me pretty well. I’ve had my nose flattened unintentionally a few times though so that might have something to do with it lol
I'm glad there is a more affordable option. Me personally give me the G2s. These are not a upgrade by no means Idk Mad tech selling these as they're better. You flying a Avata and can't head track. The only pro is the price and that's not really a pro these would be much more attractive at 400 or 450. If I couldn't afford the G2s I have I would go with some reverb V2 for $325 and call in a day.
1: Integra can head track 2: I’m not selling these as better, they are just not largely worse. 3: financially they make more sense than the Goggle 2 for 90% of users. 4: V2 are the better option still for most people as these are still premium.
A very detailed video, i am about to spring for an Avata and was torn between the goggles, i think you convinced me to save some money and get the goggles integra.
Man i love your review the attention to details specially for people like who love criticism in a productive manner lots of love maaan You are the best i prefer your reviews over any other youtuber ❤ Man keep up the good work i have followed you since the community was bashing you about the honesty ❤
Good explanations but in a few years with stretching and getting wet because of the summer heat. How much for a new battery and head strap ?. I have the Google V2 and Goggle 2 I like them both and both got new face foam. The Goggle V2 are so good and solid. The goggle 2 reminds me of my Fatshark HD O2 as far as fitting for the face. But I needed a new face foam for them as well. Got a big head,,,lol. Thanks for that. Very happy to have paid a bit more for the goggle 2.
Great review. I seriously appreciate all the work you put into this review. The FOV comparison Action2 images were critical for me. I was just about to pre-order the G2's and now I have some decisions to make. Integra or G2. I will absolutely try my friends G2's to see how the optics are for me before I decide.
If you find out about any replacement foam for goggles 2, let. Us know. I would not purchase the Google until someone offer a foam to add to the goggles, goggle 2 has so many light leaks turn goggle screen of in mid flight, have to where them real tight to get them to work. Can't fly long with the goggles that right.
@@MadRC Hello, nice review. They stripped wireless streaming, but could you please confirm if they still have the broadcast mode to be able to share the video to another pair of goggles, or to receive the feed from another pair of goggles? This feature is a make or break for me.
I sort of got excited about the RID in the google so we do not have to add to FPV drones used commercially. So for regular FPV drones we do not need to worry about the intrusion of RID either.
OUCH I had it all wrong! I was able to try on both of these at the mall recently when I inquired about ordering the Mini 4 Pro. The salesman flew the Avata around the store while I viewed the flights through each goggles set. I liked the Goggles 2 better specifically because of the individual diopter adjustments, so they were perfectly clear. To a lesser extent I liked them because of the wider field of view. In fact, I thought the Integra was the older model since it lacked diopter adjustment. Also, the Thai salesman didn't mention that Integra includes a set of corrective lenses. In my case Integra wasn't quite clear. Gotta admit it's puzzling that DJI can apparently make Integra, including a box of corrective lenses, cheaper than Goggles 2. Go figure. I'll go with Goggles 2 now that the latest Mini 4 Pro update, thankfully, allows using either set. Merry Christmas & just subscribed!😁
I sent it back the Integra . I like the optics 44 ( is perfect)... but the image is bent( top and bottom) not so much in goggles 2 . Mach light 220-240g on Integra without battery. The deal break is built in battery. You cannot modify it, the strap cannot be replaced ( the cable and connector are very fragile... I know what I'm talking about). That's the reason I sent it back. I wish to be the same as goggles 2 regards the battery. I'm very sad. 😢
I'd love to see a teardown of these. I'm curious to see if we could non-destructively remove the antennas and replace with u.fl to SMA (perhaps with 3D printed adapters).
There is a couple videos of someone crudely modding them with external sma antennas but replacing the u.fl to sma with hole drilled but not a 3d printed adapter or anything to replace the original antennas. Someone should see if replaceable strap and wire for the strap to battery in case it fails in the future out of warranty. Would be nice to see same mods as V2 goggles which I cannot find for cheaper like digital to analog, not likely without AV in.
Awesome review! G2 seems have infinite diopter adjustment while this one has in 1 diopter increment. If reviewed by glasses wearer verdict could have been somewhat different. To me it seems integra is G2 SE, a stripped out cheaper version.
Thanks for the great comparison! I can see where many will go for the Integra just on price savings alone. Too many things that don’t work, or don’t make sense, for me on the new Integras starting with the battery which is a total deal breaker. How am I supposed to sit back in my car with that thing on the back, or wear a beanie to keep my head warm since I fly in the cold a lot? Then there is the lack of being able to focus the lenses, I suppose if you never let anyone else use them it’s ok but if you want someone else to check them out and their eyes aren’t the same as yours, they aren’t going to be able to see very well. I may be in the minority on this one but I really like the touchpad on the Goggles 2, I fly with a couple others locally and they both prefer the touchpad as well.
You not in the minority I think anyone that use them enough will get use to the touchpad. I thought I would hate it you have to give it a chance. It's not finicky it dji quality and much easier to make in flight adjustments. People that jump back and forth prob not going to like the touchpad.
Battery on my head is really something that I will not be comfortable with but price is really a deal breaker for me so I will probably go with Integra. Also as lots of people have problem with face mask especially within nose are, I think Integra wins here. Changeable lenses is something that looks more time consuming on Integra but as I am wearing glasses would rather have this option as I am sure that you can pay to manufacture custom lenses. I will be only one to wear those glasses. As for a battery, as it looks like, modification will not be such a big problem. I have 3d printer so I will come up with something that does not involve making irreversible changes to that part of Integra
thx. for making it easy to head for the integra. In Europe/Germany the difference is 190€, plus the Battery it adds uo to 229€. Definitly ok to save some Money for an O3 Air Unit!
Thank you for the great information. Not liking the battery arrangement. Can't plug in my headtracker unit. Fixed lenses could be troublesome if you share your goggles with someone else. Having the GPS so you do not need to connect to your phone is a big plus. Do you know if the DJI RC Motion 2 controller is compatible with the DJI FPV drone ?
Features + compatibility + quality of battery + built in diopters = me buying the goggles 2. If you replace the seal with a 3rd party thinner foam the picture quality goes WAY up.
it might be important but I like that they had added the lenses into the even cheaper package cause I can remember that the RE came without and that I had to pay 40€ or so on top, later when I needed different lenses I was not able to get them anymore which is a shame, even third parties missing to produce them. What I still do not know or might have overheard is the fogging issue the FPV Goggles 2 were famous for. Thanks a lot for such a fast in depth review pointing out the important points, even though I am still not sure what I might be missing without the wifi considering that the goggles have to connect one way or the other to the drone or air unit or via Phone. At the end dji is fighting the others back with a cheaper option. They must hope to gain marketshare otherwise this product does not make sense. Better optics on the cheaper product is not the best reference for the 150€ more expensive product. Most likely they will loose more potential GOGGLES 2 buyers to the Integra than conquering from the walksnail & hdzero side. For me it is an option cause i still rely on dji drones but I need more support of dji drones to upgrade - otherwise I will stay with Mavic 2 another year.
I think some features were missed off your review, a big one is wireless streaming, I say this is big as I can see this being a thing to connect the mini 3 pro RC to the goggles via the wireless function they stripped from integra
The wireless streaming is part of the WiFi that I said was no longer there. As of now DJI has done nothing with it other than being able to receive DLNA video. There is no wireless streaming out from the Goggles 2 and the Goggles 2 are not comparable with the Mini 3 Series anyways.
The batteries not being replaceable is an issue for me, batteries will wear out over time. Also, as you mentioned that strap adjuster looks like an obvious failure point. Thanks for the review 👊
yea i also like to hang against a pole a a wall and sometimes reset my head in flight against the wall by touching the back of my head to the wall that wil be difficult with that thing behind your head. also the dji headstrap that goes over your head make you look like some psycho from a distance
@@erikvf7 Maybe. I have seen DJI batteries, that are ( maybe not easy ) but easy enough. But I have also seen DJI Batteries that the ID chip, or whatever they use, is very fiddly, fragile, and difficult to replace, with the room for error, being very low. One small mistake, and it's done for. With some batteries, by DJI, very difficult to remove from the casing, without destroying things. I would want to confirm before I assumed that it would be easy to mod.
@@xORLOCKx in the USA? Ok nice news for them. But im not sure if i prefer (and trust) a US contractor over a Chinese company. China does not have any influence over us and our intelligence. The USA=WEF and they are probably the most evil and totalitarian group ive ever seen. Ill stick with the Chinese ones😉
@@tjthedogtrainer Amazon U.K. had stock of the Explorer combo on Thursday I ordered and it arrived yesterday. I had to order the £1100 combo to get the goggles though.
@@MadRC ah ok. Guess bc I'm in the States will have to wait. I'm upgrading my setup so don't want to purchase the entire combo 😅. Weird they have combo for sale but not individual pieces yet here.
What do you mean by overlap of lenses? Do you have issues with Goggles2 even on custom foams? iFlight one is great and nah we dont need to see corners sharp, just peripheral.
If DJI actually get around to adding support for the mini 3 to these I'd probably upgrade to them, can't see the point in upgrading from my V1's at this stage though
@@noisyminer LOL there's no way in hell DJI gives a shit about what I think 🤣. But yes I saw they've FINALLY added support (should have happened YEARS ago but anyway..). I'll be waiting for the mini 4 that's apparently close to release them I'll be upgrading!
Why couldn’t they have just made the GPS/battery pack as an add-on to the existing goggles? Do you think there’s any chance they will offer this in the future so that existing goggles to owners can have the convenience of not flying with a phone connected?
great review! Thank you for that! Is it possible to take off the headstrap and exchange it with a 3rd party one somehow? (maybe with custom made parts?) If so, what does the power input connector on the goggles side looks like?
I returned my Integra goggles last week. I received the goggles 2 in the mail today and really appreciate the increased field-of-view, the diopter adjustment and touchpad. But primarily I guess I need immersive and the Integra goggles are not immersive. Just one more opinion..
Can you please describe to me what you mean by immersive? I am trying to decide between the 2 and I found your comment interesting because you are one of the few that prefers the goggles 2 over the integra. Thank you!
@@Thebasicspod I usually fly in 4:3 aspect ratio primarily because I can see more of the bottom and top of the screen. The Integra goggles in that aspect ratio looks small and the screen looks far away. Immersive to me means that the entire screen is filled with the camera view.
If we can get the pilot GPS coords over to Betaflight as telemetry, the RTH rescue mode can return to the pilot, instead of the takeoff point. Also a follow-me mode would be cool when pilot is in the passenger seat tootling down the lane.
That s a shame DJI do not upgrade Google v2 firmware to support last version of caddx or airunit firmware.... Cause I really like immersive fov of v2....
Man this is frustrating, I need glasses to see, but the 1 diopter interval of the Integra is a bit too coarse, I'd want 0.5 diopter intervals. Maybe DJI will sell more of the lenses individually?
Lookup Honsvr lenses. I ordered custom lenses from them for my exact prescription, including astigmatism, for $50. -Just looked them up and they already offer sets for these goggles
I don't see any improvement. I still struggle the same issues as it was in 2. OSD is unreadable and i cannot breath through my nose. Battery on strap is a great idea and yes, smaller FOV is not a big problem
How is the battery cable connected to the goggles? Is it plugged in or permanently connected? Could you replace the whole strap+battery if either fails?
How do you get a video output with these goggles? I use DJI AU or 03 air units. USB c -> smart controller or RC pro? I searched the web but couldn't get a clear answer...
Thanks Ian for your excellent review. I have eye issues, glare related. I'm interested in the DJI goggles for the reduction in glare and hopefully better sight of where the drone is going. I'm primarily interested in getting excellent video. The video you show is likely from the controller or headset. I have the Mavic 3 Pro. Do you know, will the video record in 4k in the Mavic 3 Pro while using the goggles? Is there an option with the Integra goggles for Cinematic mode? Or is that unnecessary in your view?
Hi if they are really better and the latest releases it's true, why is DJI currently recommending the pack with the goggles 2, it's not a criticism, just want to know why and above all your opinion? 👍❤❤❤
Great detail. I had the DJI FPV drone for about a month but the goggles FPV 2 was just so uncomfortable that it all went back. I am keen for the new Avata with the new goggles but a bit worried that the goggles is still shaped like the old one. Do you know if there was a major change in face shaping?
Great job again Ian. Thank you. I need to ask if anyone has tried the new foam replacement from iFlight? I’m tired of buying new goggles and HDZero’s should be here soon. I like variety, but not enough to get the Integra 1’s. 😊
Thank you Ian. As a new FPV pilot I very much appreciate the way you put these technical details tegether. would it be possibke to confirm if these will work with the FPV drone. And if so can i use them together so a second person can come along for the FPV ride so to speak.
Will you try to mod the antennas? And have anyone tried to remove the screws on the front panel of the goggle to see if antenna is locked in with that screw?
What about people of 50 with presbyopia?... I'm a little bit worried with focusing issues. May be you can enlighten us? Thanks for your video... Really detailed and well structured.
What angle and ground speed setting do you recommend for GPS Rescue with betaflight 4.4.0, Chimera 7 Pro V2 and 8000mA LiIon battery? The goal is to maximize the distance traveled with a minimum of battery.
Thanks for all the info 👏👏. I am just getting my first fpv and thought Avata best option. As a glasses wearer would you go Integra or goggles 2. And would you recommend a sim. Thanks
I just learned that the Avata is really screeching loud. Also, I didn't realize its is over 250 grams and therefore needs to be registered and have remote ID. I just happened to learn about the Flywoo Flylens 85, and its super quiet, and doesn't need to be registered. and that uses the 03 dji camera, and therefore is compatible with the integra goggles. At least watch some you Tubes on this.
Hi Ian, could you please explain the FOV to me? Are the screen sizes of both goggles the same and that you can see is different or you see the same but the sizes of the screens are different? Thank you
thank you for another great video- in the absence of a record button does that imply that the original air unit will auto record? On the goggles 2 it has to be done manually (unless I was doing it wrong)
I am so disappointed that when wearing these goggles there is no way that I can send the picture to my spotter, which I would be able to if the screen of my RC Pro retained it’s screen picture at the same time as the goggles picture. 😂😂😂
Hello Ian and I really enjoyed this full review. I have a question if you can help. I’m blind from the right eye. Can I use any DJI goggles with the avata that I want to buy? I’ve asked DJI regarding the goggles 2 and although they said I can, then they changed their reply to no, because the visual is different on each eye. Can you please tell me if that is correct and if this is the same with the intera? Is there another goggle which has the same visual on each eye so I can use? Thank you in advance!
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Should have called them the Goggles 2 v2🤣
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I have them, you need to activate them with the dji assistant 2 (consumer version) NOT the assistant 2 fpv version. No joke
Gg2 -v2😂
You mean goggles 2 v0.5
G2 v0.5
DJI finally did _something_ about the comfort and optics issue that so many had with the Goggle2. I can see everything clearly edge to edge in these. The field of view is smaller, yes, but that's not what I'm thinking while flying. Since it's at 100% of the display configuration, it looks natural. With the headstrap, you can angle it upward off your cheekbones and a nose a bit to relieve the bridge pressure if you're someone like me. The face mold needs to be reworked to make the comfort perfect, but it's probably not going to happen -- the head pillow/strap system is an alright compromise. Definitely better than Goggle2 for me in those categories, great overview Ian.
Similar results to me overall.
It's interesting one of the reasons Fat Shark gave for their HD3s having a narrower FOV than their HD2s was that it was not possible to engineer blur free edges with ther HD2s wider (50deg or so IIRC) than the narrower HD3s FOFV (45 deg IIRC). I may have the FOVs of the Fat Sharks wrong - it's been years since I've read FatShark spec sheets, but it sounds like DJI might be having the same challenge.
@@1337fliteHD2 FOV was 50 degrees and HD3 dialed that back to 42 degrees but you are correct nonetheless in your assessment that this was an issue that Fatshark also faced and it was a reason for scaling back the FOV.
I think DJI simply failed to do enough facial and optical diversity testing, or they would have figured out that G2 were a bad goggle design. Somehow, even with their multi million dollars of resources ended up making the same mistake Fatshark did many years prior and it’s shockingly stupid and surprising to me tbh.
I called it that DJI would NOT do anything to fix the G2 also, because their options for doing so were limited. And that anyone unhappy with them should return them. Then they release the Integra which is what the G2 should have been...
Ian, thanks for the review! You go into so many technical details! (battery from inside, FOV overlays, RF spectrum, ...) Pleasure for my technical mind.
You're unique source of many important info that the community wants to know.
Thank you for this video, I'm very new to the drone world and already in dire need of some FPV. As someone with a lot of experience wearing NVGs in a military setting, that counterweight from the battery pack sounds like a godsend regarding neck fatigue. I don't know how much the goggles might weigh compared to the NVGs I wore, but any weight in the front of the neck is always putting an additional strain on the neck muscles and I'd rather avoid that as much as possible. I understand I could just attach the battery pack on another model to the back strap, but having it already integrated is a huge plus for me. I think you've sold me on the Integra as well as earned a subscriber. Keep up the good work and thanks again!
Thanks for the info man! I was trying to decide between the goggles 2 and the integra and I think I will go with the integra now. You are awesome!
thanks for the review! I was very confused by which to buy, really helped! thank you a lot for the deep explanations!
Glad they gave it a name like the Integra. Goggles 2 goggles v2 like what the hell. been using a battery clip for the back of the gogglesv2 and short cable and they are perfect. It is better to have the batteries interchangeable. Dislike when gear is being reviewed by others and they don't even have the actual product they are reviewing. Great video and information as always.
Well done and thank you Ian, a very informative, unbiased and thorough review.
Thanks for the info but I still like the goggles 2 with the focus adjustment. At first I hated the touch pad but now I'm used to it and it didn't bother me anymore.
Doing the math: With my V2 goggles and their 54 degree FOV, it's soooo much FOV that I, and most I've heard, dial back the FOV. In the menu we can adjust the image size by 10 degree increments. I personally use 80% and think that's much better because the 54 degree FOV is too immersive and it looks like you're trying to take in an IMAX like FOV from a goggle...Kinda. lol So, if we do the math and take that 54 degree FOV and multiply it by 80% we get 43.2 FOV. Gee, that's oftly similar to the 44 degree FOV of the Integra goggles. Hmm, sounds like what I'm already used to with my V2 goggles. It would appear to be just perfect for me, and maybe a lot of folks! Now if we could just rid ourselves of the MY PILLOW/BATTERY CLUSTER FUC% ON THE BACK! LOL 🥴
Maybe some really smart, genius type guy, can figure out how to completely remove that My Pillow CF and let us use the lipo in the pocket technique many of us have been used to for several years! Who at DJI thought this pillow deal was a good idea?! More weight on my head....great! 🤷♂🤦♂
You must have a really tiny head
when you were flying and talking. the pinched nose sound and only able to breath through the mouth tells me all I need to know. Thanks for taking one for the team. We also know that DJi headstraps wear out badly/quickly. Throw an internal power cable into the mix and that does not sit well with me at all. V2s are still my go to. Plus I can add head tracking for fixed wing with those as per my vids. Cheers
Just to note the flight Audio went though heavy noise removal (resolve voice isolation) as it’s windy as hell. The stock audio is much less nasal. I’m not going to say it’s perfect on the nose however it’s better than my G2. However the overall face shape is the largely the same as it’s still not perfect. It’s better but not perfect.
@@MadRC yeah when I fly with them cus I got a big conker that's how I sound haha.
Haha. Yea your not alone lol
@@MadRC wonder if they will release the faceplate as a spare part. Seems like they have added a little bit of plastic to push the face away slightly... Think that might make the burred edges worse on the g2 mind
They're designed for Asian faces not white man faces 🤥
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Great content and review. I like what I see but a huge exception. What would have been a bright idea by dji is to utilize new screens to achieve the 120hz refresh rate the v2’s have. It’s a noticeable difference when flying aggressive freestyle and it baffles me.
i think we kinda lack good info on what its like to use the v2's with 03 units, 16-9 cameras versus native 4-3 cameras, i noticed a big difference switching from 16-9 to 4-3, more than i anticipated. so i'm imagining going back with the 03 units as a definite loss of vertical fov, possibly experts can fly fine with it but beginners and non experts would really miss that extra fov.
I'm surprised DJI didn't make the built-in headstrap battery replaceable. Could have been done fairly easily and would have provided another way to bring in sales. Everyone wants multiple batteries "just in case".
Great review, Ian. Maybe now it’s time for a comparison between the v2s and the Integras. With the new firmware update for the v2 goggles and legit support for canvas mode the only advantage I see with the Integra over v2s is the oled screen. Prove me wrong! Man, I love the way my OSD looks now ❤❤❤
Yeah but the oled screen is supposedly a lot better? I just bought them will post here my experience. Currently using the v2 Goggles. I am just hesitant on the fitment of the nose at this point. I tried the Goggles 2 and did not like them at all. Immediately returned those.
@@publicname515 I tried the goggles 2 on at bestbuy and surprisingly they fit me pretty well. I’ve had my nose flattened unintentionally a few times though so that might have something to do with it lol
@@SkeezyFPV 🤣
Thanks a lot for your really good review!
Do you know if there is an option to have video out over USB-C while charging?
I'm glad there is a more affordable option. Me personally give me the G2s. These are not a upgrade by no means Idk Mad tech selling these as they're better. You flying a Avata and can't head track. The only pro is the price and that's not really a pro these would be much more attractive at 400 or 450. If I couldn't afford the G2s I have I would go with some reverb V2 for $325 and call in a day.
1: Integra can head track
2: I’m not selling these as better, they are just not largely worse.
3: financially they make more sense than the Goggle 2 for 90% of users.
4: V2 are the better option still for most people as these are still premium.
A very detailed video, i am about to spring for an Avata and was torn between the goggles, i think you convinced me to save some money and get the goggles integra.
Man i love your review the attention to details specially for people like who love criticism in a productive manner lots of love maaan
You are the best i prefer your reviews over any other youtuber ❤
Man keep up the good work i have followed you since the community was bashing you about the honesty ❤
great review with qualitative details as usual and expected in your channel. thanks for my future saving 👍
IT WOULD BE NICE IF DJI ADD INTERNAL GPS FOR G2 , OR UPGRADE G2 FOR INTEG...NO PROBLEM
Thank you. Now I understand what's going on with the different goggles.
great review,subscribed!
Good explanations but in a few years with stretching and getting wet because of the summer heat.
How much for a new battery and head strap ?.
I have the Google V2 and Goggle 2 I like them both and both got new face foam. The Goggle V2 are so good and solid. The goggle 2 reminds me of my Fatshark HD O2 as far as fitting for the face. But I needed a new face foam for them as well. Got a big head,,,lol. Thanks for that. Very happy to have paid a bit more for the goggle 2.
Fantastic review, Ian! Thanks! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great review. I seriously appreciate all the work you put into this review. The FOV comparison Action2 images were critical for me. I was just about to pre-order the G2's and now I have some decisions to make. Integra or G2. I will absolutely try my friends G2's to see how the optics are for me before I decide.
This was done in under 24 hours lol. A big task.
If you find out about any replacement foam for goggles 2, let. Us know. I would not purchase the Google until someone offer a foam to add to the goggles, goggle 2 has so many light leaks turn goggle screen of in mid flight, have to where them real tight to get them to work. Can't fly long with the goggles that right.
@@MadRC Hello, nice review. They stripped wireless streaming, but could you please confirm if they still have the broadcast mode to be able to share the video to another pair of goggles, or to receive the feed from another pair of goggles? This feature is a make or break for me.
@@Rueges I have the Integra and Broadcast mode is still available
I sort of got excited about the RID in the google so we do not have to add to FPV drones used commercially. So for regular FPV drones we do not need to worry about the intrusion of RID either.
OUCH I had it all wrong! I was able to try on both of these at the mall recently when I inquired about ordering the Mini 4 Pro. The salesman flew the Avata around the store while I viewed the flights through each goggles set. I liked the Goggles 2 better specifically because of the individual diopter adjustments, so they were perfectly clear. To a lesser extent I liked them because of the wider field of view. In fact, I thought the Integra was the older model since it lacked diopter adjustment. Also, the Thai salesman didn't mention that Integra includes a set of corrective lenses. In my case Integra wasn't quite clear. Gotta admit it's puzzling that DJI can apparently make Integra, including a box of corrective lenses, cheaper than Goggles 2. Go figure. I'll go with Goggles 2 now that the latest Mini 4 Pro update, thankfully, allows using either set.
Merry Christmas & just subscribed!😁
I would have bought it if it had hdmi input to it, it would have resolved almost all my needs, thanks for the awesome review Ian
Thanks for the review! Amazing job 👍
I sent it back the Integra . I like the optics 44 ( is perfect)... but the image is bent( top and bottom) not so much in goggles 2 . Mach light 220-240g on Integra without battery. The deal break is built in battery. You cannot modify it, the strap cannot be replaced ( the cable and connector are very fragile... I know what I'm talking about). That's the reason I sent it back. I wish to be the same as goggles 2 regards the battery. I'm very sad. 😢
Hard hats have a similar system for tightening and they seem to last a long time.
Thanks for such a detailed review so quickly.
I'd love to see a teardown of these. I'm curious to see if we could non-destructively remove the antennas and replace with u.fl to SMA (perhaps with 3D printed adapters).
There is a couple videos of someone crudely modding them with external sma antennas but replacing the u.fl to sma with hole drilled but not a 3d printed adapter or anything to replace the original antennas. Someone should see if replaceable strap and wire for the strap to battery in case it fails in the future out of warranty. Would be nice to see same mods as V2 goggles which I cannot find for cheaper like digital to analog, not likely without AV in.
This seems like the answer to flying without a bunch of cords dangling from your head
Awesome review! G2 seems have infinite diopter adjustment while this one has in 1 diopter increment. If reviewed by glasses wearer verdict could have been somewhat different. To me it seems integra is G2 SE, a stripped out cheaper version.
Thanks for the great comparison! I can see where many will go for the Integra just on price savings alone. Too many things that don’t work, or don’t make sense, for me on the new Integras starting with the battery which is a total deal breaker. How am I supposed to sit back in my car with that thing on the back, or wear a beanie to keep my head warm since I fly in the cold a lot? Then there is the lack of being able to focus the lenses, I suppose if you never let anyone else use them it’s ok but if you want someone else to check them out and their eyes aren’t the same as yours, they aren’t going to be able to see very well. I may be in the minority on this one but I really like the touchpad on the Goggles 2, I fly with a couple others locally and they both prefer the touchpad as well.
You not in the minority I think anyone that use them enough will get use to the touchpad. I thought I would hate it you have to give it a chance. It's not finicky it dji quality and much easier to make in flight adjustments. People that jump back and forth prob not going to like the touchpad.
Would love a comparison of the V2 vs the Integra! :-)
Battery on my head is really something that I will not be comfortable with but price is really a deal breaker for me so I will probably go with Integra. Also as lots of people have problem with face mask especially within nose are, I think Integra wins here. Changeable lenses is something that looks more time consuming on Integra but as I am wearing glasses would rather have this option as I am sure that you can pay to manufacture custom lenses. I will be only one to wear those glasses. As for a battery, as it looks like, modification will not be such a big problem. I have 3d printer so I will come up with something that does not involve making irreversible changes to that part of Integra
thx. for making it easy to head for the integra. In Europe/Germany the difference is 190€, plus the Battery it adds uo to 229€. Definitly ok to save some Money for an O3 Air Unit!
Honestly, DJI didn't make it an easy choice between the Integra and the G2. But I went for the Integra yesterday. Hope I made the right choice.
Great review Ian! Cheers 🍻
Run run run run V2 Gogles all the way!!!!
until you try and see the o3 and 1080 feed to your eyes :) give it a try, you never go back after day of flying
@Tom Zboril I have tried and I prefer the v2 for the larger fov and clear image with no blurring at the sides.
Thank you sir. I appreciate the simple explanation.
Great review Ian
Great video Chris Hau
Great review ! Thanks
Thank you for the great information.
Not liking the battery arrangement. Can't plug in my headtracker unit.
Fixed lenses could be troublesome if you share your goggles with someone else.
Having the GPS so you do not need to connect to your phone is a big plus.
Do you know if the DJI RC Motion 2 controller is compatible with the DJI FPV drone ?
Features + compatibility + quality of battery + built in diopters = me buying the goggles 2. If you replace the seal with a 3rd party thinner foam the picture quality goes WAY up.
it might be important but I like that they had added the lenses into the even cheaper package cause I can remember that the RE came without and that I had to pay 40€ or so on top, later when I needed different lenses I was not able to get them anymore which is a shame, even third parties missing to produce them.
What I still do not know or might have overheard is the fogging issue the FPV Goggles 2 were famous for.
Thanks a lot for such a fast in depth review pointing out the important points, even though I am still not sure what I might be missing without the wifi considering that the goggles have to connect one way or the other to the drone or air unit or via Phone.
At the end dji is fighting the others back with a cheaper option. They must hope to gain marketshare otherwise this product does not make sense. Better optics on the cheaper product is not the best reference for the 150€ more expensive product. Most likely they will loose more potential GOGGLES 2 buyers to the Integra than conquering from the walksnail & hdzero side.
For me it is an option cause i still rely on dji drones but I need more support of dji drones to upgrade - otherwise I will stay with Mavic 2 another year.
I think some features were missed off your review, a big one is wireless streaming, I say this is big as I can see this being a thing to connect the mini 3 pro RC to the goggles via the wireless function they stripped from integra
The wireless streaming is part of the WiFi that I said was no longer there. As of now DJI has done nothing with it other than being able to receive DLNA video. There is no wireless streaming out from the Goggles 2 and the Goggles 2 are not comparable with the Mini 3 Series anyways.
The batteries not being replaceable is an issue for me, batteries will wear out over time. Also, as you mentioned that strap adjuster looks like an obvious failure point. Thanks for the review 👊
I think it will be easy and cheap to replace those internal 18650's
yea i also like to hang against a pole a a wall and sometimes reset my head in flight against the wall by touching the back of my head to the wall
that wil be difficult with that thing behind your head.
also the dji headstrap that goes over your head make you look like some psycho from a distance
@@erikvf7 Maybe. I have seen DJI batteries, that are ( maybe not easy ) but easy enough. But I have also seen DJI Batteries that the ID chip, or whatever they use, is very fiddly, fragile, and difficult to replace, with the room for error, being very low. One small mistake, and it's done for. With some batteries, by DJI, very difficult to remove from the casing, without destroying things. I would want to confirm before I assumed that it would be easy to mod.
Ive been using the same battery for the goggles v2 for over 3 years now with no problems
Just install a new headstrap and battery...
I'm looking forward to DJI Googles that will take advantage of the O4 video transmission system.
The direction they are going is pushing me to walksnail
Hurry up before they are bankrupt
@Robin-Visser lol they parent company just picked up a contract with the department of defense. They won't be going bankrupt any time soon my guy.
@@xORLOCKx in the USA? Ok nice news for them. But im not sure if i prefer (and trust) a US contractor over a Chinese company. China does not have any influence over us and our intelligence. The USA=WEF and they are probably the most evil and totalitarian group ive ever seen. Ill stick with the Chinese ones😉
I wish reviews didn't come out until I can actually purchase an item it's such a tease lol
You can. I bought these my self, if I can buy them then so can you.
Oh sweet. Link to store? Amazon, Best Buy, B&H Photo, don't have.. even DJI doesn't have stock until the 4th. ☹️
@@tjthedogtrainer Amazon U.K. had stock of the Explorer combo on Thursday I ordered and it arrived yesterday. I had to order the £1100 combo to get the goggles though.
@@MadRC ah ok. Guess bc I'm in the States will have to wait. I'm upgrading my setup so don't want to purchase the entire combo 😅. Weird they have combo for sale but not individual pieces yet here.
Great review!
What do you mean by overlap of lenses? Do you have issues with Goggles2 even on custom foams? iFlight one is great and nah we dont need to see corners sharp, just peripheral.
Yes, the ratcheting mechanism is the weak point. It is made in PRC after all. Bicycle helmets have similar mechanism which is prone to failures.
If DJI actually get around to adding support for the mini 3 to these I'd probably upgrade to them, can't see the point in upgrading from my V1's at this stage though
They listened to you and have released that support now.
@@noisyminer LOL there's no way in hell DJI gives a shit about what I think 🤣. But yes I saw they've FINALLY added support (should have happened YEARS ago but anyway..). I'll be waiting for the mini 4 that's apparently close to release them I'll be upgrading!
I wonder if DJi will make it possible for battery pack for Integras to fit the goggles 2
tks my friend! great review!
Why couldn’t they have just made the GPS/battery pack as an add-on to the existing goggles? Do you think there’s any chance they will offer this in the future so that existing goggles to owners can have the convenience of not flying with a phone connected?
I'm waiting for a teardown to see how you could exchange the antennas😁
great review! Thank you for that! Is it possible to take off the headstrap and exchange it with a 3rd party one somehow? (maybe with custom made parts?) If so, what does the power input connector on the goggles side looks like?
At the moment it looks fixed but we will need to see
Great review! I think I'll go with the goggles 2... I think! 😅
Thank you for your informative review. Best one I've seen. Is there a way to set up the Integra to record automatically when bound to a caddx unit?
Thanks for the vid.
First of all, once again great video.
If they removed WI-FI for Integra is there any way to transmit vision to the phone like for example via usb-c?
Yea you can still use the fly app to view via usb.
@@MadRC do you know if there is a way to use the fly app while the ham file is active or only without it?
I returned my Integra goggles last week. I received the goggles 2 in the mail today and really appreciate the increased field-of-view, the diopter adjustment and touchpad. But primarily I guess I need immersive and the Integra goggles are not immersive.
Just one more opinion..
Can you please describe to me what you mean by immersive? I am trying to decide between the 2 and I found your comment interesting because you are one of the few that prefers the goggles 2 over the integra. Thank you!
@@Thebasicspod I usually fly in 4:3 aspect ratio primarily because I can see more of the bottom and top of the screen. The Integra goggles in that aspect ratio looks small and the screen looks far away. Immersive to me means that the entire screen is filled with the camera view.
@@scotthines5834 I totally agree with you, that field of view on Integra is a dealbreaker for me!
If we can get the pilot GPS coords over to Betaflight as telemetry, the RTH rescue mode can return to the pilot, instead of the takeoff point.
Also a follow-me mode would be cool when pilot is in the passenger seat tootling down the lane.
This would be cool, I don’t think so but it would be cool
Ahem... Ardupilot
That s a shame DJI do not upgrade Google v2 firmware to support last version of caddx or airunit firmware.... Cause I really like immersive fov of v2....
I’d much rather have no wires hanging off my head. The less steps the better, that’s why I went with the RC controller for my mini 3P.
Thank you for the review. How many other dji drones will these work with?
Great video....THANKS!!
Man this is frustrating, I need glasses to see, but the 1 diopter interval of the Integra is a bit too coarse, I'd want 0.5 diopter intervals. Maybe DJI will sell more of the lenses individually?
Get prescription ones done? That way any astigmatism can also be dealt with
Lookup Honsvr lenses. I ordered custom lenses from them for my exact prescription, including astigmatism, for $50. -Just looked them up and they already offer sets for these goggles
I don't see any improvement. I still struggle the same issues as it was in 2. OSD is unreadable and i cannot breath through my nose. Battery on strap is a great idea and yes, smaller FOV is not a big problem
How is the battery cable connected to the goggles? Is it plugged in or permanently connected? Could you replace the whole strap+battery if either fails?
Well said, Sir ! And in plain English not any americano latina !:)))
How do you get a video output with these goggles? I use DJI AU or 03 air units.
USB c -> smart controller or RC pro?
I searched the web but couldn't get a clear answer...
Got to use my integra goggles About 5 times before the fan stopped working and I had to send them back.
Got a bit confused after the first 55 secs until I realised that you had swapped the two sets over after naming them at the beginning.
amazing review
Thanks!
The Oculus quest 2 has a really similar strap tightening wheel and the plastic teeth did strip after 2 months of frequent use.
Every hardhat I've worn in the past 20yrs has this mechanism. Have not seen a single failure.
@@dr0n3droid i feel like they use better plastics on hardhats. More like the tool plastic than the consumer electronics plastic
Great review! Would the g2 battery work with usb to usb cable? seems like a nice backup plan...
Thanks Ian for your excellent review. I have eye issues, glare related. I'm interested in the DJI goggles for the reduction in glare and hopefully better sight of where the drone is going. I'm primarily interested in getting excellent video. The video you show is likely from the controller or headset. I have the Mavic 3 Pro. Do you know, will the video record in 4k in the Mavic 3 Pro while using the goggles? Is there an option with the Integra goggles for Cinematic mode? Or is that unnecessary in your view?
Hi if they are really better and the latest releases it's true, why is DJI currently recommending the pack with the goggles 2, it's not a criticism, just want to know why and above all your opinion? 👍❤❤❤
Great detail. I had the DJI FPV drone for about a month but the goggles FPV 2 was just so uncomfortable that it all went back. I am keen for the new Avata with the new goggles but a bit worried that the goggles is still shaped like the old one. Do you know if there was a major change in face shaping?
Great job again Ian. Thank you. I need to ask if anyone has tried the new foam replacement from iFlight? I’m tired of buying new goggles and HDZero’s should be here soon. I like variety, but not enough to get the Integra 1’s. 😊
Thanks you, can you shut off the light sensor so the screen stays on with the goggle 2? Great job on video.
In Germany they charge you 659€ for the integra! Sorry dji. I am still very happy to have ordered hd-zero.
Thank you Ian. As a new FPV pilot I very much appreciate the way you put these technical details tegether. would it be possibke to confirm if these will work with the FPV drone. And if so can i use them together so a second person can come along for the FPV ride so to speak.
Sadly no only O3 and Avata.
Will you try to mod the antennas?
And have anyone tried to remove the screws on the front panel of the goggle to see if antenna is locked in with that screw?
Logic step from the V2s for sure. Eventually.
What about people of 50 with presbyopia?... I'm a little bit worried with focusing issues. May be you can enlighten us?
Thanks for your video... Really detailed and well structured.
What angle and ground speed setting do you recommend for GPS Rescue with betaflight 4.4.0, Chimera 7 Pro V2 and 8000mA LiIon battery?
The goal is to maximize the distance traveled with a minimum of battery.
Great review as always. Maybe I missed it but can you please tell me if the FCC hack still works on these integra goggles. Thanks.
He said that it does
@@moshecohen4029 Great news. Thank you.
Thanks for all the info 👏👏. I am just getting my first fpv and thought Avata best option. As a glasses wearer would you go Integra or goggles 2. And would you recommend a sim. Thanks
I just learned that the Avata is really screeching loud. Also, I didn't realize its is over 250 grams and therefore needs to be registered and have remote ID.
I just happened to learn about the Flywoo Flylens 85, and its super quiet, and doesn't need to be registered.
and that uses the 03 dji camera, and therefore is compatible with the integra goggles. At least watch some you Tubes on this.
Hi Ian, could you please explain the FOV to me? Are the screen sizes of both goggles the same and that you can see is different or you see the same but the sizes of the screens are different? Thank you
thank you for another great video- in the absence of a record button does that imply that the original air unit will auto record? On the goggles 2 it has to be done manually (unless I was doing it wrong)
I am so disappointed that when wearing these goggles there is no way that I can send the picture to my spotter, which I would be able to if the screen of my RC Pro retained it’s screen picture at the same time as the goggles picture. 😂😂😂
Hello Ian and I really enjoyed this full review. I have a question if you can help. I’m blind from the right eye. Can I use any DJI goggles with the avata that I want to buy? I’ve asked DJI regarding the goggles 2 and although they said I can, then they changed their reply to no, because the visual is different on each eye. Can you please tell me if that is correct and if this is the same with the intera? Is there another goggle which has the same visual on each eye so I can use? Thank you in advance!