USMNT CRASH OUT of Copa America | USA v Uruguay instant reaction & recap | Call It What You Want
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- Join Charlie Davies, Brian McBride and Tony Meola after the whistle for the full recap of the United States men's national team's third and final Group C match.
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McBride is too connected to the US soccer admins to be too critical of tactics and Greg, you played a defensive midfield in a game where you needed to score
Real talk
McBride seems like the perfect candidate for the federation to be the next manager. My goodness its hard to listen to him, he offers zero criticism in a tournament that we absolutely flopped in.
Apparently someone has never signed an NDA.
He lost me when he said he expected the US to reach the semi’s. Delusional.
@@1972dsrai in a one off match any tram can win.
I will not watch another USMNT match with Berhalter as manager.
This is what I came here to say.
Same! Berhalter Out!!!
And why should we? We know how it’s gonna end
I don't think they will miss you. Respectfully
@@maudalmusicalmachines3541 statistacally, no. No matter how good the team is 10 v 11 for 80 ish minutes. 10 generally loses. Though winning is a nice thought.
Brian is such a company man, out here defending Greg and Shaq nah
FACTS!!!!!!
Appreciate Charlie's passion for this team and calling it like it is, this is one of the worst moments for the US in a long time.
It’s 90% the feeling of Trinidad & Tobago.
You mean the one guy who ruined his career with a decision?
@@skulduggaree487he’s even said it was a huge mistake. I think he cried about it. WTH does that have to do with what this persons post?
@@skulduggaree487Explain your reasoning, that a person who has made a mistake can’t have opinions on the game he played at a much higher level that you, and knows the game far better than you?.
Explain like an adult, not some teen seeking attention by trying to be edgy.
@@t24nocalNothing. Ignore the gnats in here
Brian looks like someone who has to triple check everything he says to make sure he doesn't say the wrong thing. Love him as a player, but has been a terrible pundit. Speak your mind Brian.
And it's Folarin Balogun, not "Florian" as BMcB keeps calling hiim.
Agreed, that was weird. Especially the performance and execution comment. The performance rating encapsulates everything. Maybe he wants the US coaching job…
Yeah Brian looks like he would make a LOUSY coach based off his commentary, energy, and thought process. He better not even apply. I can already tell he will SUCK big time.
Apparently no one speaking seemingly has ever signed an NDA!
Yea, lots of nepotism when it comes to US soccer so it seems like people are afraid to tell it like it is... I have no affiliation and ill say it. Berhalter has been a disaster. He is a terrible coach who has been consistently out coached. He puts players in positions to fail rather than succeed and we have gone NO where with him at the helm... He's a loser, has always been a loser and always will be a loser. I'm done with US soccer until Gregg is gone...
we haven't beaten a Top Team with Berhalter in charge for 6 years. Arena beat Portugal, and Klinsman beat Germany and got us to a Copa Semi Final with a worse team. Greggs gotta go.
Whilst I agree with the results both never really played front-footed attacking soccer. Despite what people feel about GGG, usually the first guy through the door gets the bloodiest. I say ,because 3 years ago people were crying for the same thing and if presented Hansi Flick, i assume most screaming would jump at the chance. How did that work out for Germany?
As a neutral football fan, I think that, of course, the US was disappointing in the Copa América. However, as far as I'm concerned, the US didn't play badly yesterday. They were beaten by Uruguay, one of the favorites to hoist the cup. When the US was indeed disappointing was against Panama. With all due respect, I think that despite the good level the Central American team has shown during the tournament, the US should've won that game. The US was knocked out by Panama, and that's why Team USA was a failure. First of all, you should beat weaker teams. That's why I have this opinion.
Greetings from Argentina.
@@ivanmontes9645 I do understand , but 10 v 11 for 60ish minutes henerally spells defeat gor the 10.
Brian has lost his mind (in reference to the Shaq Moore thing).
Average Joe Scally has been one of our best players this tournament. I know he's not Dest but that's what I like about him. He knows that and we gotta stop asking him to be Dest when Joe's consistently good at what he does.
Individual brilliance has carried us thus far but this is not a team. These players have no discomfort and no challenge with their current situation in the NT and it shows. Predictable all around, no consequences, no accountability, and that starts with the manager.
Gregg Out.
Scally has the old school us soccer mentality eat or get ate
I can appreciate this, however, do I think someone else can do my job? Yes, do I think they can do it better than I? No. I would assume players feel the same. To play someone not as good as me or them to prove a point seems a waste of time.
Love you McBride and I know you're trying to keep a level head but you never nitpick Tony like this when he makes critiques - it's because Gregg is in the hot seat isn't it?
The funny thing about listening to U.S. analysts is that they don't realize how they sound after being grouped. They keep looking down on teams that competed better than them and insist on the "great talent" that their team supposedly has.
What they don't know is that they're like the suckers playing poker. When you sit down at the poker table and you can't tell who the sucker is, that means you're the sucker. When the Copa America draw went down, everyone wanted to be in the same group as the U.S. to avoid having Argentina, Brazil or even Mexico as group headliners.
This means that Uruguay, Panamá and Bolivia were ecstatic to be in a group with the weakest "top team" out of the 4 groups.
You think teams feared Mexico over the USA? 😂
What a stupid comment, literally nobody in the fanbase said we are at the level of Argentina or Brazil 🤦🏻♂️
@@Agtsmirnoff Dude, footballing countries have a lot more respect for Mexico than they do for the U.S. at the international level. Outside of CONCACAF, the U.S. has not accomplished anything, while Mexico has done some things like winning Olympic medals, Under-17 World Cups and reaching Copa America Finals.
I'm from Panama myself and I can tell you that we were happy with the draw we got because we knew we had a puncher's chance against the USMNT and then we could beat Bolivia. That's exactly how it went down.
Exactly
@@AlfredoEClarkI hear what you’re saying, but Mexico hasn’t been a top side in a long time. In the 21st Century, the US record against Mexico is 19-8-9, with USA on top. Mexico hasn’t beaten US in 5 years!
So, maybe some teams are more afraid of Mexico than they should be. They’re remembering the Mexico of the 80s and 90s.
I love how Charlie is not afraid to keep it real
Real what? Real (not smart)?
McBride says absolutely nothing when he talks. Clearly still a Federation guy.
so if everyone is not aligned with your way of thinking, then they're a company man? That's Interesting
And that is the problem with the US. They completely and arrogantly dismiss the so called weaker teams. When you constantly underestimate your opponent you are bound to lose. That Panama team is actually good. A much better team than what the USA currently has.
Canada and Panama made it out of the group stages, but we can't with our "Golden Generation"?!? This is embarrassing. This team is no where near their hype, I don't care about any excuses.
It is called managing expectations.
Hey Brian that's my guy. Appreciate you and my brother Jay hiring me for the job the first time B McDizzle. Oh and can't forget my main man Earnie. You see what he did at PSV this past season? He always lands on his feet though, so nothing surprises me anymore with Stew.
McBride with too many hits to his head in regards to Shaq.... it didn't even have to be Shaq, could have been Bryan Reynolds... did he not watch the World Cup and how insanely infeffective Shaq was...? Also, how does McBride give GGG a rating of 5...? Good lord...
Yedlin would have been up for it
Didn't Shaq only play like 5 minutes. That is the hill you decide to argue?
Charlie, your 3 rating for Greg is spot on. Berhalter was awful. Seriously, 3 strikers are never going to equal goals. We need creators to get it to the finishers. To gut the midfield ( creators,) to bring in finishers= no goals. Gregg is a awful. And honestly, to contemplate bringing on Shaq moore is a fire-able offense.
Jesse Marsch has been coaching Canada for 2 months helps them qualify to the round with a team with much less talent. While Gregg Berhalter has been coaching the US for 6 years and has a much better team gets the teamed grouped .
Canada has a ton of talent on their team, their talent is not ‘much less.’
What talent usa has only 1 player u guys have won anything in Europe no 1 else every won anything beside polasic r what ever his name is no 1 else won anything r has a name in Europe so chill they r not that good never was
@@redfire1094I am not sure what you are even writing about.
This is not a "Golden Generation" by any stretch. The team has been overhyped. Several past teams would wipe the floor with this group.
@@LuisA-fc3ox u can't read r something u went to school to eat school meals r something
Balogun was finally playing up to his potential which was encouraging. Definitely felt for him and respected that he tried to play through it
I love Brian but saying to look past the Panama defeat is bs. Gregg sh!t the bed with those halftime changes. If he would have dont that immediately, I would have understood, but we had the better chances at the end of the first half. We went against our identity as a team by going into defensive shell for the very first time.
In order for soccer in the United States to develop, it needs to integrate with Latin America. American clubs need to compete in the Libertadores, so the domestic level of the players will improve, the level of competitiveness and the experience in the sport will be shared. The culture of the Libertadores represents the entire American continent, since we were all freed from European colonizers. The Libertadores means liberators, just like those who gave freedom to the United States.
In terms of business, it would be great, because it would combine the business capacity of Americans with the culture of South American soccer. Then we would have a product as good and attractive as the UEFA CL. With the right investments, many young players would have the option of playing for clubs in the United States, receiving competitive salaries. Therefore, I think we should make efforts for this integration and leave this "Eurocentrism" behind. Given the current geopolitical situation, it makes more sense for the United States to integrate with Latin America in a healthier and better relationship for everyone.
Your 100% right. Inter Miami is going to be in the COPA Libertadores, hopefully other MLS teams will join them.
Oddly enough not all decisions are ours. If someone doesn't invite you over and you show up bitching about what you dont like, seriously?
Did Brian really EXPECT the SEMIFINALS?!?! (What??)
Absolutely no one else I have read or watched expected “the semifinals”.
I felt like there was a 25% chance that we’d get grouped and that the USMNT was more likely to get grouped than go to the semis, but virtually everyone I read/heard EXPECTED to get knocked out in the quarterfinals.
Nothing this team has shown would make one think that this team was going to perform when it mattered.
Yeah you haven’t been paying attention, most people expected the semifinals. The USA had expected we could beat Colombia before that friendly
@@robertmorici8605I don’t think it’s expecting to beat Columbia. It’s more people expecting this team to punch above their weight on any given day. Past generations have found a way to do that with less talent. You need to eventually beat someone with more talent than you.
You guys make this a great show! Thank you!
Great American soccer hero ChristianPulisic #10 for giving every bit of his soul to American soccer fans. We love you!
Charlie is the only one keeping it real. Everyone else is being soft. Don't want to cause any waves. Don't want to say that GGG needs to go. But HE NEEDS TO GO!
Why not just admit this generation of players are largely a reflection of this entire generation in the USA. Greg passes out the participation rewards and the players can feel good about themselves and wear their Rainbow colored jerseys and never upset anyone with any honest answers. If anyone starts to show any edginess send them off the island. US Soccer has always been a bit of a star chamber but now it is completely in line with the Disney’s of the world. If you have any brains you know 2026 is your one big chance to move the needle. I actually believe you have the talent- now go get the guy who can put the fear of God into them or accept being 5th sport in the USA pecking order and making the occasional knockout round your ceiling of expectation. Brian and Clint are the best strikers in USA history. However, based on his opinions I am glad he is no longer with the federation.
How is he actually still defending Shaq Moore.. Jesus.. I'm done listening to these clowns.
As a USMNT supporter, Charlie Davis represents me! Preach it sir.
USMNT??? What country is that??😂😂😂
United states mutant ninja Turtles?
@@leoncallero🐢
Brian said, @54:00 "there's nothing significant that lies ahead." This is the energy of why we are where we are. We need to get an agreement with another coach ASAP! 2 years is a lot of time to make a big impact on a program. You dont hire a coach to stand on the sidelines during the game. You hire a coach to develop a team, incorporate a system, scout his talent, etc. A new coach needs some time to start doing their homework.
Isnt that what Gregg did? I understand you may not like him, but this is international play not club play.
Is Mcbride applying for a job in the USSF?! Hes not drinking kool aid here, hes drowning in it. 😂😂😂
It's always a blessing to see you guys, especially after this result. Thanks for uploading🙏
lol McBride still defending Shaq Moore
Thanks for a reasoned discussion. I see folks complaining that Brian doesn't say enough, but the three of you combined are literally the only commentary that I've been able to listen to without turning-off the folks performatively ranting and raving (we can feel your pained sincerity, Charlie) or trying to make headlines. And there is a LOT of commentary. Thanks for being a refuge of informed commentary in a sea of drivel.
17:25 spot on. Exact scenario played out for England. Tierney went down and southgate, to his credit, put on another attacker in Palmer and moved Saka to LB. It changed the game. Gregg doesn’t have a clue. “Like-for-like” substitutes is all he has the balls to make because he’s scared of his own players
Tierney ?? He’s Scottish. Stick to baseball old chap
@@gazza1196 they’re all the fuckin same
It’s scary that someone who was the GM of US Soccer can be such a soccer moron.
McBride and Meola are USA soccer royalty. I love every second of listening to them speak, with both tactics and passion.
Jedi gets a 6 and Gregg gets a 5?!?! Hell nahhhhh
I like tony. He doesnt mince his words and nobody is going to put words in his mouth. His points were well taken, it wasnt about shaq moore. But you had the chance to put another midfielder or striker or AT least a right winger to play at right back. If you didnt take the risk knowing you need a goal, you would never take that risk. This is david moyes substitution pattern, like for like in terms of substitution.
God McBride is full of Sh*t. They did ok. WE LOST because we put ourselves in this positoin. Under GGG we have done nothing against good teams. NO MORE EXCUSES!
G-G-G-G-G-G-G0lden
Golden? How about nasty, sweet 94? How about gnarly, bloody 2002? How about savage, tough 2010?
How about the amazing '98 or '06. Better yet how about the brilliant '18.
Herve Benard. Lets go !
Berhalter finally allowed Balogun to slash the lines vs PAN & URU instead of recycling the ball. #Threat
I don't believe you about Tiny Tim Weah. He looked savage against that Panamanian player
Brian protecting the federation even after this horrendous tournament, absolute joke. Speak your mind man, huge let down by the USA. Gregg out, you need someone to get these players to grow up and be more aggressive.
I called it weeks ago. Not making it out of group. Sad but predictable 😢
Greg has had 6 years and still hasnt figured out how to get this team to create goal scoring opportunities.
Anyone remember Ream saved a goal off the line? Calm on the ball, good distribution thru the lines.
McBride said Moore was our best 1v1. Played 10 mins in friendly and got put on skates twice. Enough already.
I believe he said in MLS or domestically. Seems like more people need comprhension lessons more than football/soccer lessons.
@@skulduggaree487 he has spoke on this before
@@RandomStuff0303 Yes he has, but I believe he also stated, in aML or domestically. Which different than what you said. COMPREHENSION!
@@skulduggaree487 pre friendlies it was said Moore was our best 1v1 on the roster.
@@skulduggaree487 I want to help because the internet is hard. May 20th video. 1:50 mark. “He is our best 1v1 defender, as an American”. No mention of just in a domestic league. Then he doubles down on it.
My recommendation for who US Soccer should consider as next USMNT Coach: Thomas Christiansen. Think about it.
As a US hater.This was football heritage🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brian, is Berhalter still the best coach for the national team, like you said? 😂
Gio picks his head up and puts the ball at players' feet. Reverses field, thru the lines, in the box. He can't be a threat when he has to come so deep to get the ball.
You can see McBride shaking in his boots when Charlie keeps it real 😂
One postivie to take is how US was challenged by 4 of 5 opponets they faced last. We need to continue to find, and face opppnents of such caliber. Oppnents in September friendlies do not cut it for me.
Also, another positvie was the build up that lead to Haji Wright's shot being blocked. I thougt Reyna(surprisingly not subbed), and Pulisic combined technically very nice in this attack. That was the best quality play from either US, or Uruguay all afternoon.
Canada and Panama are elite concacaf sides and we are lucky they agreed to play us……..lol
No one who defends Shaq Moore entering this game should be allowed to speak about the national team
Refs and Conmebol didn’t want the USA to get through the group
What happened to McBride man?
Tim weah will either be a national team hero if Gregg gets fired for this or the biggest mistake in USMNT history if he doesn’t and Gregg gets a pass for the red card costing us. my gut tells my ussf will blame the red card not the coach for this debacle and that is just a scape goat. Gregg is the root of the problem.
please tell us all how a player getting a red card for stupidity and arrogance is Gregg's fault. Add in Dest' red card too!
@@ronniethomas8780 gladly since you’re too boneheaded to get it yourself. because Gregg fosters a culture where selfish acts like dest and weah can go unchecked (don’t forget weston leaving the hotel during covid) because he’s buddy buddy with the players and they don’t fear him. A real coach would garner more respect and the players would not act out frequently like they do under Gregg
@@loganmapes2307 I'm not a "get wit", and don't subscribe to mob mentality or pressure of not conforming to this narrative based mentality that's crept into the fanbase, but you're either willfully ignorant or just plain stupid because a players arrogance or selfishness has nothing to do with the coach, that's another narrative/talking point of the Greg detractors. Greg punished McKennie and Dest for their actions, so him fostering that type of culture doesn't align with what he did in the aftermath of said actions. How about have an original thought, be an individual instead of pushing that tired, rehearsed propaganda that's become prevalent in this fanbase!
There’s no way McBride actually believes what he is saying about Shaq Moore. 21:40 ish lmao
You can tell Brian was not having the criticism of Gregg and the team. Saying things like that being too harsh on Shaq Moore.
Brian is a shill and shouldn’t even be on this show. Not sure why Heath still hasn’t been brought back. Shaq got bodied within seconds of coming on by Vinicius vs Brazil and almost gave up a goal. Talking about being the best 1 v 1 defender 😂
Regarding a new coach, how can this be financial?! There MUST be willing investors to fund a coach. THE PROBLEM is that the BOARD does not want to relinquish control. Pay up or get tf out of the way!
They committed to pay the women’s coach the same. So if the want a $5M/yr men’s coach, they have to raise $10/M year. Thats the problem with equity instead of equality. If she were that good, men’s teams would have wanted her. We’ve handcuffed ourselves for the sake of a virtue signal. Sports are supposed to be about competition
@@sedmundson seriously!!? I mean, if an anonymous investor says otherwise, who’s to stop them
All Brian is good at is dodging questions. Literally every answer… “you know, Charlie, that is a great question… (spew nothingness)”
If GGG is not canned. I am not watching anymore.
gregg is in the job for ONE reason. all of these players know they have him under their thumb and they want to make sure he stays there and they are included in the world cup roster PERIOD. the only reason they back him is he is a DOORMAT. crocker step up and take care of this trash
all these’s rating are hilarious how you going to give the attackers the best rating when they literally didn’t have a shot at goal especially in the second half when they were down 🤣🤣
Brian is absolutely nuts thinking Shaq Moore is that good. Absolutely has lost if
I agree with you on Yunas and Weston they did not step up and a good coach is going to demand more. So disappointing. They are BALLERS and it was so underwhelming it’s insane!
The US has a coaching problem from the youth leagues all the way to the top. Coaches in this country think Futbol is a track meet and don’t understand the game at all.
I wouldn’t say that is the issue at all. The issue is they overcoach. No free flowing play or pickup culture. US academies over coach, they role out the ideology and “tactics” they believe in and expect the game to fit that plan. Some games call for players to create and US coaching doesn’t allow it.
Brian and Chuck giving Musah a 6 is wild to me, his first touch was awful. I feel like every time we had a chance at counter attacking Musah would have a bad touch or bad choice.
It might be more a failure on the coaching staff to have three defensive midfielders in a game you have to win.
McBride makes this a tough watch
Get Brian McBride off this show. Thank goodness he is no longer on USSF exec board. Dude so unwillingly to hold this coaching staff accountable and trying to sell us on Shaq Moore lol😂.
@1:05:00 Brian mentions limitations to budget. To be clear here, we are hosting the World Cup in 2 years. The only budgetary limitation we actually have are those imposed by our own USSF board. They've put themselves in a box on this. These are self imposed limitations - and quite frankly not an excuse that any of us want to hear. Maybe the "front office" is the problem here, because they don't want to take risks and be on the chopping block for making risky moves or blowing budgetary numbers. After 2026 WC, what do you think will be a more important take away - 1) that we went out and spent the money to get the coach necessary to put the USMNT in the Best possible situation to have success in 2026, or 2) that we stayed within our budgetary restrictions and should be proud that we saved $1M or $2M to the budget and that it needs to strike a balance with our aspirations? The answer is pretty clear...
USMNT needs a change of management, Spaniard or Argentinian with Accademy formation, to look new talent and to follow them to complete their formation in Europe, US soccer managers just don't have enough experience to do the jump that the US soccer needs.
An Argentine coach would be amazing.
Goalkeeping distribution has to be better. Even on a narrow field.
New coach comes in the players will be evaluated and then they will have to fight for their positions. Players know of Gtegbstays the status quo stays.
But you are not better than Panama, you lost to them 😂
Brian saying we should look pass the Panama game is outright nonsense
McBride is like a usa soccer spy, has to put a spin to everything. Almost like us soccer will allow this coverage unless we put our guy in there
Don't sugar coat anything
Gregg Berhalter is our Gareth Southgate 🤦🏾♂️
Honestly, what is the purpose of having McBride on this podcast?
It’s a catastrophic failure. The only silver lining is that Tony brought his dad energy to this podcast once again with getting stuck on mute
Brian would be a great CNN correspondent
McBride is such a company man and mate with the guys on top, so he is NEVER willing to criticize Berhalter and the guys that gave Berhalter the job.
Always there to defend whatever Berhalter does.
His comments regarding Shaq Moore made zero sense and it all reeked of desperation to defend Berhalter and how he has lead this team.
McBride sounds more like a PR man from the federation than a pundit.
What is the point of having such a "pundit" at all?
If we a lose this must win game, and can’t score a goal, then our players don’t deserve a rating of a 6. Maybe Balo and Scally for being consistent and getting injured?
Lets be honest the goal was offside the TV review showed it. Why was it not given. Yes the US should score goals; however, officials can make or break a match. I have seen some matches where the officials change the out of matches with very bad calls.
The stats I saw, we were outshot 3-1
In BJ we trust for the interim
In no world would I have pick Shaq Moore to play USMNT. In fact, Dejuan Jones should have gotten a shot over Shaq
Meola got the most out of that CONCAFA squad @ TST….im just saying. #MeolaIn
This fuckin sucks, but i do like how we came out and fought like hell, still sucks though
Recent effotrts besides 1 win in 5 games
Panama gold cup loss
Lucky win against Jamaica
Loss to Trinidad
Weak concacaf performances on the road
This is a perfect time to find a new manager, the large majority of domestic leagues are on break and a number of good managers are available. And if you were ever going to be able to convince someone to leave a job in Europe it would be much more likely during the summer break. Stop settling, the USWNT brought in Emma Hayes, how can USMNT continue as is, unless they want to just keep the status quo. If they want to grow the sport and expectations, then they have to make a change.
1. 4-4-2 would of caused several problems for Uruguay and the team would have shine.
We are currently looking for a number 9. Why not play with 2 to find that. We need to substitute sooner & give the players more opportunities. Why is Aaronson part of the squad and is never used. He brings so much as a sub & could change the game. We are so stuck with Christian & Bologan. They’re not consistent.
2. I think the coach needs to rotate players more often. Especially if the players aren’t playing.
Easily and probably the smartest idea would have been to create a starting line up with players who play in the same club for dynamic/chemistry purposes.
Reyna shouldn’t have started due to his transfer.
Pepi & Tillman play together.
Christian & Musah play together.
McKennie & Weah play together.
Luca & Cardoso play in Spain & similar system.
4-3-3 isn’t the formation for this squad.
Pepi is the answer to play more attacking. Dumb to ask him to hold the ball and wait for players. It doesn’t work.
Put pressure on the sponsors
Go get Klopp now because if you don’t, England is going to grab him as soon as England loses at the Euros.
After we lose in the final.
Think we might benefit more from a South American coach than a European coach. Need someone that understands the concacaf/comebol style of play.
This equality $hit between the USMNT and USWNT is stupid. The WNBA doesn’t pay ANYWHERE close to within a fraction of the NBA because they just don’t draw ANYWHERE close to the attention of those teams!
Expectations of reaching the semi’s!!!? Is he serious? This is the Copa America with the best teams in South America competing, not CONCACAF nations league. Also how is the US ranked at 11 by FIFA and Uruguay at 14 and better still, Germany at 16? Losing to Panama despite being a goal up is why you’re out.
Where the hell is cream cheese??