I’m disappointed in Chuck and Tony the way this pod stared. Defending Greg is a losing battle. If Crocker hires any MLS coach other than Wilford there will be a revolt again against the sponsors and USSF. The fans will revolt. We’ve had enough. Matt Crocker has got to go next unless he hires a good international coach.
Nancy doesn't deserve it either. Why should he be the coach, what am I missing?
We only have 2 years to the world cup. We need someone who has international experience
He deserves credit for the first spell he got us back on track after 2018 and laid some decent foundations but it’s time for an elite coach to come in
@@trentmelton3069credit for regressing
The only reason this team is where its at is because of the quality of players themselves and not because of Gregg. In fact it has always been the players to bail him out when he fumbles tactics or games. A squirrel would have been able to achieve what Gregg has done if not more so, because even a squirrel probably would have retired the mls lifers way sooner, and our players would have been way more developed in that time if they were given alot more playing time sooner.
Come on guys.....you have a guy on saying GGG is one of the top managers?!?! C'mon man....
Being successful in CONCACAF doesn’t say a lot tbf. Not beating Panama showed where you currently are. Someone like Bielsa is who you need to get the most out of mainly average players.
these guys delete my comments all the time, they cant take any criticism, soft
I can’t believe my ear from Paul: bring Southgate? If so I rather keep GGG and I just don’t watch their games whatsoever. Southgate has generation talents but played them worse than GGG played USMNT. What’s wrong with Paul? Can’t he see it?
Why must there always be one "McBride" type of character on this show now? Is it for entertainment value? Feels like that Southgate comment was merely to make people comment and raise viewrship, but it also turns a lot of people away from watching!
I never get people wanting to give Gregg his flowers for “getting us to the World Cup”. He tied for third in freaking CONCACAF and advanced on goal differential. 1 road win and we were down at half in that one. With all due respect to Jimmy - went toe to toe with the Netherlands? They got dog walked.
I think the England game was his best performance if you want to give credit. In Wales we had Zimmerman give away a pointless penalty which allowed them to get Bale a clear chance to score. He had that as a common problem with players making these poor decisions that punish the rest of the team. We need a manager who will get players in line.
Please never bring Tenorio back. I lost braincells listening to his takes.
Thank you Timo Weah..
The dude in the bottom corner citing advanced metrics is hilarious. Sorry, watch the games. Advanced metrics has killed sports.
Gregg Berhalter should never have been hired in the first place. Some people want to credit him for bringing the team together, but look at the results! Two players got red cards for hitting other players. When has this ever happened before? Why does he play Renya so far back, and why can't he change a game with tactics for substitutions? Matt Betty Crocker should also be on the hot seat because if he doesn't get this new hire right, he has to go, too. Crocker had to admit he was wrong for bringing Berthalter back, unlike Berhalter, who constantly blamed the players. USSF needs to make better decisions and break up this nepotism even more.
No respect whatsoever for Gregg Berthalter! I guarantee he will be unsuccessful in his next job! He is selfish for not resigning, and U.S. Soccer will still pay him. He was a complete disgrace, but pundits like you propelled the mediocracy that came along with Gregg Berthalter! Shame on you all!
Its all about results and he simply couldn’t cut it when the quality of opposition went up. Losing to Panama showed where the US is at. You need someone like Bielsa who has the experience and can maximise the potential of a mainly average team. Having two/three quality players is nowhere near enough against teams with quality throughout and on the bench.
Berhalter is a poor man's Gareth Southgate. We don't need a slightly better bore.
The best chance of the US progressing in tournament football is playing a more pragmatic style where you’re firstly tough to break down. Quality teams will tear you apart. A draw is better than a loss in the group stages and you give away too many cheap goals.
@@1972dsrai A more pragmatic style? We have been playing a pragmatic style in tournament football for 35 years. When have we ever played an attacking style? Playing pragmatic has gotten out of the group in 5 of the last 8 World Cups. A draw is better than a loss? WOW! That's some serious insight. Thanks for educating us stupid Americans. We all thought that a loss was good. We just discovered international football last week. None of us have been watching the US men since Italia 90.
This 1st 1/2 was FRUSTRATING to listen to. Paul's takes are nonsense. SOUTHGATE? Thats his fresh idea?
@@jackied962 Herve Renard... He has international experience, he's a proven winner, he's proven he can get teams to punch above their weight, and he is affordable. He is the best choice
Renard would get our boys playing attractive soccer.
@drunkenramblingswithaaron7708 His contract is up after the Olympics with the French women's team. I would start sending feelers out to him. Klopp is certainly attractive option but might be unreachable. Marcelo Gallardo is another coach that catches my eye. Got River Plate after their relegation and made then consistent winners
Why they glazing this guy so much. He was a mediocre coach.
Paid USSF shills… This fanbase is more educated than ever… You can’t hide beneath your mediocrity anymore!
I love Charlie, but that apologetic Berhalter opening want necessary. He's a guy who got fired because he didn't get the job done, not a hero who went down in the line of duty! He was also a nepo hire (who didnt have a very convincing resume before the USMNT job) AND a repo rehire. I think any 1/2 way decent manager could have done at least as well with this crop of players.
I get where you're coming from, but I see at as Charlie chose to be classy instead of kicking berhalter when he's already down. For the record, I 100% agree with the decision to fire Berhalter and believed from the start it was a mistake to re-hire him, but there's no need to pile on the guy now that he's out.
@@pwilkinson714 berhalter would know a thing or 2 about kicking someone while they're down
@@pwilkinson714 yeah I wouldn’t kick him either, but I wouldn’t give him a shoulder rub on the way out. lol
I don’t think Gregg deserves credit for doing the bare minimum.
Winning 3 nations league and getting out of the World Cup group isn’t bad but he doesn’t know how to manage a top team
SOUTHGATE?! We need to not only win, but we need to play PRETTY right now to grow the sport here.
This team isn't young anymore. Pukisic about be 26, Mckennie about to he 26, Adams 25, Ream 35, Turner going on 30, Robinson 27, LDLT 26, Weah 24, mostbofbthese guys will be around 28 at the 2026 WC.
These guys will be in the prime of their careers at this point (sans Ream). We have to get it done and get a top coach to see where the problem lies. It could just come down to getting better players (post 26).
😂, he’s Gregg’s evil twin,😂
Poor Charlie, his internet turned him into Joe Biden. I think at one point he said he killed medicare.
As an American living in Germany I fell in love with the game early on and I got to know the ins and outs of the football/soccer world.
I think I know a thing or two about the game and have always been following the USMNT (my highlights were the 2002 WC and the 2009 Confed Cup).
With that being said I think it was DEFINITELY the right move to let go of Berhalter though I do believe it should’ve happened earlier.
We should NOT thank him for qualifying for the 2022 WC.
Giving the opponents in CONCACAF that’s the bare minimum, sorry to say.
With all the money being dumped into US Soccer and looking at our players’ market value compared to most other CONCACAF nations, qualifying should be mandatory.
This ain’t the 90’s anymore and this shouldn’t be our standard.
I do want to thank him for the 2022 WC performance e. g. outplaying England and having the guts to nominate Haji.
Now to the part why I was never a Berhalter fan:
Whay Claudio (Reyna) and his wife did was wrong, yes.
But, what lead up to this?
How can you tell a Gio Reyna - who actually got playing time with BVB - he would not be playing a role in this WC BEFORE the WC had even started?
Get to training and THEN make the decision.
How does Gio now get to start every Copa game with even less minutes played at Nottingham?
We received a red card vs Panama yes, but why sub in a defender for a midfielder?
We lost an attacker, no need for subs.
It was 1-1 at half, without Weah the chances of scoring are not as high, clearly.
But we still have a better midfield to control the pace of the game and all defenders.
There was NO reason to take a midfielder out - to let Panama take control of the ball and the game - and to park the bus with 5 defenders.
How can a MNT coach make such a crucial tactical mistake?
Giving the teams potential they highly underperformed and if the players can’t display a winners’ attitude, the coach ain’t doing his job.
Meola, if we get a big name coach will you bring back the 94' Haircut?
the problem goes way beyond the manager, it's the entirety of us culture across the board. entitled, corrupt and arrogant.
I didn’t realize Paul was on drugs… no to southgate….
So Paul Tenorio shows himself to not actually be a journalist, but just another thirsty, starry-eyed USA fan. Southgate literally influences his buddy Gregg. Key similarities include fans thinking he is too conservative , stayed one cycle too long, the "leadership group" (Gareth took it from Pep, then Gregg hopped on board), and should have done more with all the talent he has (except England has managed to ride their luck to another final!)
If Tenorio is representative of US soccer media you can see why the game is struggling in America. How someone who knows so little about football is given a position of influence is insane.
The old boys network defending their mediocre friends because they used to play together is also getting really tired. Lalas, Keller, these guys here all running interference for obvious and clear mediocrity is not helping the sport either. Embarrassing.
They should convene the players council and ask them who they want, and who they'd tolerate. The right guy will be the manager the players don't all want to get the job. Someone who will challenge them instead of enabling them.
Crocker made the decision to hire B again, when it was clear that's the wrong choice. He needs to go. In my fantasy heaven, so do the whole USSF Board.
Paul might actually be an idiot for that Southgate suggestion. And why is he still trying to defend the woman beater?
Tonorio wants to know why he cannot read his comments, his idea of Southgate is why. He’s not better than Berhalter, he just has crazy talent, attacking talent & his team could not attack. We need a tactically flexible coach who builds around the best players: Pulisic at RW, Balo at the 9, Gio at the 10. Tactics has to be simple at the international level.
England's had "crazy talent" in the past, even a "golden generation" before that never got the results Southgate has. Southgate is clearly miles better than Berhalter. Before Southgate, England went out in the Euros to Iceland and were knocked out of the World Cup by Costa Rica.
@@Chudsic 1) tell me you do not know anything about the sport without telling me you don’t know anything about the sport.
2) go back and watch the 1st half of the NL final against Canada, the 1st half against Germany, the 1st half against Ghana (and what you looked like in the 2nd half w/o him) & ET against Jamaica. He is the only player in our player pool who has the vision & the ability to be creative & break lines via the pass from central midfield.
@@jackied962 England had talent the English media called elite, they did not have this type of talent. They have the 3 best RWs in the EPL (1 was player of the season), they have a midfielder who is 1 of 2 candidates to win the ballon d'or, they have a consensus top 3 striker in the world. Gerrard & Lampard were not nearly as talented as those players.
@@frankkastler you sound like child so i'll chalk it up to that rather than pure delusion which is par for the course for yanks. reyna is rubbish
Bring back Bruce for his Redemption Arc!
Low: semis 2010 WC, Semis Euros 2012, WC win in 2014 Senis Euros 2016. Its got to be Low
Would you bring a coach in that’s had conflict with one of your best players. Like Gregg and gio? Yes they totally would. It’s the ussf worst decision makers ever. Only went this route because of fan pressure.
any manager that the US will hire should go through what Jesse through also! Locked 'em in a hotel for two days and fill out those frustrating form because you never know!
Greg is a terrible coach good riddance and anyone who says he was good at making changes is just dead wrong if plan a didn't work there was never a plan b
At least there's hope for the WC provided the players can improve.
I was extremely well liked at one of my jobs before I was fired. Well liked means nothing.
The disjointed starts and stops between the Golazo network and the TH-cam feed (which is how I watch) is super irritating. Figure it out
Edin Terzic - he was criticized for not being attacking minded enough in the way Dortmund has been over the years.
The US should go all out to get Bielsa. You’ve only got two years and he’d get the most out of these players in the limited time he’ll have with them.
This man got away with playing Ferreira (nothing against the man) against Aké, VVD and Timber and homie said it was positive stuff at WC while he left the kid who saved is his job at home 😭
I have no problem with giving credit where it's due.
no need to overly hate on him.
he's out. I'm glad.
we can be respectful, and sing some praises, and then move on.
I hope he gets a coaching job somewhere and does well.
It's not all about results. I just want to see the U.S. boys go as far as they can and and leave it all on the field on their last game.
When it comes to results and the different coaches, it's kind of a roll of the dice. Looking backwards or into the future you never know how different decisions turn out, but you always know how you feel about the way your team plays the game.
Amazing that the fans rose up for change. We have never seen that before!
its called discipline. We did not have have it and the coach takes the blame. Why beating this dead horse. We need a coach who can development these young players into learning how to win through discipline and tactics
I don't understand these insider main stream journalists. They either want the new young version of Gregg, Churundalo, or the more expensive and experienced version of Gregg in Southgate. I think it's clear, for the time, we need something totally different. Get in an experienced leader with success that will hold the players responsable and get them playing well before this cup.
This playing mandate is ridiculous. What were we gonna do bench Pulisic 2 years ago when he wasn’t playing for Chelsea but was still our best player? I agree with the take that it should be passive understanding you’re not guaranteed. Also #SayNoToCherunrolo
Tenario….no red coats my guy. Blasphemy.
Gotta stop the talk about this "advanced metric" and "data" stuff that showed the so called "'golden generation team play better soccer" than any team in the past, eye test doesn't mesh with that at all. I can count in one hand the total number of sliding tackles this team did to disrupt any opponent from getting the final pass through into the box, is there any "advanced metrics" for that?? This team doesn't feel like a blue collar team, it feels like an Tesla Model that thinks it's a luxury EV BMW, but it really has some unreliable flaws that can break at some inconvenient times under stress. They think they're above grunt work, but not quality enough to be luxury devoid of flaws.
I hope we get the best coach we can possibly get and try to get Klopp or another top European coach. That said, we have be realistic about the level of talent we have. Could our best player, Pulisic, even make the starting XI of England or Spain, the two Euro finalists. Could he make even the 2nd XI of England? While Pulisic is a great player, one reason he is in demand is his marketing power and if he were English or Spanish, he would not have that.
It’s a great day to be Americans
Love the passion these four bring to the podcast l
What about Ole Gunnar Solskjær. Took a underperforming Man untd and made into a transitional/counter attacking side that punch above its weight multiple times
Hope you never have Paul back on your show ever ever ever again…
@Charlie It's good to remind everyone, including the big name stakeholders and players. It's about for this country.!
No one cares how nice Greg is behind the scenes wtf is Grella talking about.. it's a result driven business who cares about how nice of a guy he is
I remeber these same people discussing players vs coaching, the say "better players" when presentred a coahes name. So is it players or coaching? If it is playersthen ours aren't good enough, right? If it is coaching should we care which players are on the field/pitch?
Wow. That was a hard watch. You guys are better that this, surely.
Let’s move one from Greg, because our focus should be the very top and US soccer culture in general. Our pool is small and weak because soccer has been privatized instead of being a sport for the people. We’re not giving everyone a chance to play unless they have money to pay for clinics and what not. Until we align our soccer development to that of countries we “look up to” and hope to “compete” against, US soccer will always be below par no matter the coach.
You dont wait.
Hoping for Pochettino or Tuchel.
Gareth Southgate 😂😂😂. Even if the usmnt wanted him, england won't fire him since they're in the euro finals
The dude at the bottom right 😭😭 never invite him back after that
Tenorio is part of the organization that uses the main stream to put out feelers or to condition the audience for what could be happening next
It's almost as if berhalter still has lots of friends and fam at ussf and they still like their access 😂
Oh great we got mike grella coming on to bounce on greg's lap some more
No way were getting Southgate
It's not true. Nobody got fired. Fake news! Sad.
I think Paul thought he was on a different podcast lmao why the hell does it feel like he's arguing so hard for Greg 😂 and Southgate? That does NOT feel like a very inspiring hire.
No, Gareth Southgate. Inwould select Low
If you care about the national team go watch Tactical Manager Tv
But if your ok with hive mind mentality this channel is perfect for you.
Paul Tenorio's takes are absolute nonsense. It's shocking that someone who understands so little about the game is one of the chief media voices for USSF. Is this really the best our journalism gets? Honestly, even his good takes are terrible, because they are coming from the wrong place. For example, it's a popular take to suggest that players on the national team need to be "playing consistently" for their club teams. Theoretically, that isn't a bad opinion, however, that is often coded language used by MLS shills, and it's often used to defend a take like, "Yunus Musah is not playing (only getting 10-15 minutes per game) at Milan, but Aiden Morris is having an MLS best XI type of a season."
Also, GARETH SOUTHGATE?!?! He's the English version of Gregg!! Look at those English rosters! I have never seen a coach do less with more! If we talk about fan pressure playing a role in the Berhalter firing, I promise you, it won't be better if you hire Southgate, or if you settle for another inexperienced MLS coach like Cherundolo. For me, obviously, Klopp is the ideal choice, but if we can't get him, I would call Pochettino and Joachim Low next. Other good names would be Herve Renard, Pellegrino Matarazzo, and heck, maybe take a swing at a guy like Mourinho.
Left the video after listeing to the log riding Charlie gave Berhalter, you people are part of the problem.
lol, “you people.” They have done more for American soccer than you could do in five lifetimes.
You can acknowledge he did a lot to help push forward a young generation when we failed to qualify for the WC, while also recognizing he's not the guy anymore...
@@bryan5213he pushed them into the wrong direction. These players became content under his management, they became complacent because of him. You need a manager a leader who activley pushes these players to the limit. It was a good vibes team they played boring soccer 70% of the time. Garbage lifeless MLS strategies. The few times he got it rightish doesnt excuse the reality that 6 years were wasted with the potentially amazing generation.
@@CatchingFoxesPodcastShilling for MLS isnt improving the National Team clearly. They priortize lying and boasting MLS rather than being honest and admitting there agenda has weighed down the National Team. They have regressed our team, Japan is the perfect example of the direction the team should have gone. Not this mediocre media for a mediocre leauge its the only reason they defend him. Go watch ESPN FC. There the only ones in the media that have been honest about USMNT.
I don’t care about how “beautiful” the soccer is, I care that the coach is able to adapt tactically to the players in the player pool. Berhalter/Southgate have not/cannot do that.
These replies are so pathetic. Comment section not worth it anymore.
Hmmmm no Mcbrizzle today huh? 🧐
As a German I can tell you Jogi Löw wouldn’t be the right manager for you, yeah he won the world cup 2014 but his decisions made us loose the euro 2012 semifinal and they should have won a lot more in his time than just one world cup with that kind of players. Same goes with Southgate, i think Berhalter wouldn’t be less successful if he had the same players. You need someone who makes your team and players better and not someone who keeps them away from their potential
Its not the players who are weak its the US SOCCER leadership ( oxymoran)
We can thank all the bs about taking a knee disrespect of our flag our country
That should not be aloud. This is sports entertainment..if you have political ambition put your name on a ballot
Berhalter = Southgate
Marcelo gallardo
I love Des
God Bless The USA!! Now who will replace him? Here's my candidates. Love from the Philippines, Bye GGG 🇵🇭🔥
1. David Wagner
2. Pellegrino Matarazzo
3. Joachim Low
4. Marcelo Gallardo
5. Wilfried Nancy
6. Fernando Diniz
7. Edin Terzic
8. Hervé Renard
9. Max Allegri
10. Sergio Conceicao
11. Rafa Benitez
12. Quique Sanchez Flores
13. Quique Setien
Thank you, Gregg, for everything.
This pod cast lacking energy
What did ( they ) do to in soccer we trust?
This new format and panel are absolutely terrible
Chuch...be you , pedantic arrogant and annoying.thars you trying to be the lead isn't working for you.
Yall just have to have a dude on here that strokes Greggs ego… don’t yall. My god. This dude might be more of a fan of GGG than McBride is.
Names like Southgate and Cherundolo are being circulated because they are more likely to fall in line. A manager with enough clout to challenge the players will also gave enough clout to challenge the federation.
Jimmy Conrad is all of us as soon as Southgate was mentioned… haha
Yeah I don't want Southgate regardless of his results. I think he has made some very questionable choices with the England team selection and utilizing them to their fullest. We already had those shortcomings with Gregg so I don't want more of the same.