Troy-Bilt TB30R - Battery Not Charging
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- How to Diagnose!
Today we'll be working on a Troy-Bilt TB30R riding lawn mower, these are identical to the Cub Cadet CC30, as well as the Columbia CR30 riding lawn mowers.
This came into the shop for a basic service, however, the issue we'll be diagnosing today is the battery not charging.
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![Troy Bilt TB30 w/ Powermore [MTD 10.5 HP Engine] Not Running Good..](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/k2tRQRB3bM0/mqdefault.jpg)
Mate this is by far one of the best intuitive TH-cam videos I’ve ever seen in my whole life!! Perfect explanations!!! And don’t worry about people that don’t know a stator and alternator do the exact same thing so I knew what you were saying, new subscriber here now cheers mate 👍🏼
This is by far the most consise video I think I've seen on youtube. Excellent explainations and examples of testing. Well done!!!
Very good video that contains simple step by step “how-to” on Battery, Voltage Regulator or Alternator troubleshooting. Well Done!
Having the same issue! Replaced the first batter (like a year old) thinking it was a battery issue. Now new battery is zero volts so it's absolutely not charging. The TB30 seems to be cursed with electrical issues according to reports from owners and yes even known it's less than 2 years old the alternator is probably dead. Great build quality!
Any mower these days have wiring problems ever since MTD bought out all mowers
Very clear and concise video and explanation best I’ve seen yet
Great job, good explanation. I hate electrical issues. You made it easier.
Very well done video. Well spoken and to the point. Thankyou.
Another great vid!
MTD had a ton of problems with those 420cc mower engines. They discontinued them on this line altogether in favor of the 344cc B&S and 382cc Powermore's .
I agree the 420 is not that good but there smaller ones are very good so far and price is right
You explain things very, very well. Thanks! Thumbs up!
Thanks for watching!
Very good troubleshooting, very easy to follow. Cheers. Rick
Thanks for watching!
Excellent info and very clearly explained!
Very good and clear presentation
Wery good information on how to diagnose Electrical circuit with multimeter, i love AC/DC rock band and your viddos
Very helpful
Thanks for watching!
No FUSE anywhere?
Great video! Just took mine out of storage.
WOW that's awesome video on the electric issue. I have the exact same rider mower. I keep mine on a constant trickle charge all the time when not in use. Thanks for the video... very well done 👍
Heating upingtionwire
Amazing work! you are great. This is really the best instructional video I have seen. Thank you so much.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. Thank you
Very good tutorial! Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent explanatory video THANKYOU very much...!!!
I really think these engines will take over the market because there well built and reliable, price is other things that makes them best buy
Great video with a great explanation as always. Keep up the good work!
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another quality informative video. thanks EP
Thanks for watching!
This was helpful. The one I am working on would not start and upon disassembly I noticed a rodent nest under the engine cover/debris cover. It seems that the rodent found the Fuel Solenoid wire that runs along the top of the motor was in the way, so it chewed through it. It also chewed through another black wire that took the same path. I ordered the alternator winding and ignition coil since I can't really tell what goes where anymore. Is there a way to find those wiring diagrams that you were sharing or is that privilege information? Thanks for the video I think it will help when the parts come with the wires un-chewed.
If you give me your email address and your model number under the seat I can email you a wiring diagram
Very nice explanations ! Thanks for the share.
Very informative video. Time to go back and test the Goofy Cart's charging system.
Thanks for watching!
Very well made informative video
super video thanks
Very excellent video very informative great job.
Hi, guys. I was checking how the alternator was charging on a lawn tractor this morning so I ran the engine full speed and watched the multimeter numbers go up gradually. After maybe 5 minutes it was still going up but slowing down quite a bit to get to around 13.30 volts. I stopped at that point because I didn’t want to waste any more fuel. How long should it take to get to where it maxes out at 14+ volts? Can I trust that it will do that? I used my Topdon load tester and it got 100% for the 300 CCA rating and was at 58% of charge when I tested it yesterday. The battery does seem fine - I just want to make sure it’s doing what it’s supposed to.
Thx for your time!
Anything over 12.65/12.75 should be good, but ideally you want to see 13v (surface charge they say) once you crank over the engine it drops a bit (your topdon tester should mention that it detects a surface charge). In any case, it all depends on what the voltage regulator is set to allow.
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Thanks, Jake. I was going by the automotive standard as I understand it when I was looking for 14+ volts. Always have more to learn about small engines!👍🔧
Those Powermore engines have expensive Chinese parts!! Good vid!!
Thanks for watching!
I agree but every thing is high now
Awesome Info. I am wiser.
Great video. Very informative.
where can I buy an external trickle charger like the one in the video?
@@julierawlins5984 any auto parts store would sell one likely
The rectifier changes current from AC to DC via diodes, the regulator brings the DC voltage down to a usable level. Generally nowadays both rectifier and regulator are housed in one unit.
Yessir, rectifier/regulator all in one box on this unit. But if the magnets or magneto doesn't work, then the rest of the equipment won't work
I'm having the same problem. Is there a certain type of battery charger to use for this? I have that same mower.
Jake, could you please tell me the source of the graphics you used in this video. I suspect it’s an MTD manual of some kind. Thanks, and great video and tutorial!
I believe these are MTD tech manuals, which are only available through the dealer Portal.
Eliminator Performance D’oh! 😉🔧🧰
@@Rein_Ciarfella try this, search by engine;
service.mtdproducts.com/professionalShopManuals/
@@EliminatorPerformance
I did manage to find some MTD manuals service manuals, thanks.
I Have an Alternnator on my snowblower which i use to give ac current to a analog light, but if i want to Have dc light i Have to put a rectifier which smoothen tha ac current to dc current or is that correct
Yea a rectifier is a series of diodes that convert AC to DC.
What purpose would the AC output from the alternator serve...do they run lighting circuits from that?
AC produces higher voltage more efficiently, so they output AC from the alternator (which can flow both ways) and run it through a rectifier (sets of diodes that act as 1 way valves) directing the current flow. That changes the current from alternating, to direct, which is what the battery circuit runs on
@@EliminatorPerformance Right, I get that, but is there another AC output that doesn't get rectified to make it DC? If all the AC output is rectified to DC, I wouldn't say that is a dual mode alternator, but maybe if there was also a second AC output that was not intended to pass through a rectifier, but to stay as AC for some purpose other that charging the battery, then to me that would be a second mode.
Excellent charging system trouble shooting video
Great video
Thanks for watching!
Yep not worth the money to repair the battery tender works perfectly and like Doug R says below you dont have to remove to keep from freezing. Well explained video.
Thanks for watching!
Does it look like the top of the engine has clearance to add a recoil pull start? They are only like $15 and would be good backup if battery is dead. The engine model should support one, they probably just remove it for cost savings.
My TR30R won’t start, and I got a new battery. It’s started and I mowed the lawn twice. Now it won’t start. I purchased the kit for a tune up, air filter, and oil for a change. I even bought a carburetor
kit. However there are no mobile services, in my area to come and install all. The local Riding Lawnmower repairman, uses another person to pickup the mower $40 then after a tuneup (when I supply the kit) charges $200. I wish someone would start a mobile service.
Check the mower deck discharge cover switch, make sure the cover didn't pop up. I have a video on that, just Google Cub Cadet CC30 won't start
Does the tractor deplete the battery while it is running if the rectifier / regulator is not working? I had this issue on my Cub Cadet GT2544. The battery was not charging, but as I was cutting the grass, the voltage at the battery would slowly drain down. When it got to around 9-10 volts, the tractor would quit. There is a gauge on the dash to show voltage. My problem was a bad ground on the rectifier.
So some riders have engines with fuel shut off solenoids, and they run off the battery, not the magneto. So on the engines without it, you can hook up a battery to start and disconnect it and cut the grass. They only use the battery power to engage the starter. But on an engine with a fuel shut off solenoid, as soon as you disconnect the battery, the solenoid will close the main jet, which shuts down the engine. I should also note that it takes 9v or more to open a fuel shut off solenoid, as shown in this video where I test them with a 9v battery. Anything less won't engage them. th-cam.com/video/aRPmRBlqRqM/w-d-xo.html
@@EliminatorPerformance Would the PTO clutch also run down the battery if the charging rectifier is not working? Thanks for your help!
@@thebeardedstork432 yes that as well, it needs 12v. So the battery powers the pto clutch and the fuel solenoid, and the rectifier trickle charges the battery. So if the rectifier doesn't work, after you start the engine the battery drains a bit, then the pto clutch and the fuel shut off solenoid would drain the rest over time.
@@EliminatorPerformance Thank you sir! That answers a lot of questions i had!
Good video...just you should not force multimeter leads into a connecter it can spread the terminals they have probes you can buy that are much thinner and I back probe with them
The downside to not having a working alternator is a decrease in the life of the battery. If the battery had a recent charge and it dropped down to 12.3 volts after resting for a few hours, then that is a good indication that the battery has lost about 30% of its capacity. Lead-acid battery life decreases as the state of charge decreases. From the looks of things, the owner installed a larger capacity battery which will reduce the percentage of discharge. The owner has to decide whether to fix the alternator or replace the battery more often. In this case it is cheaper to replace the battery more often. The owner did install the charging plug which makes connecting the charger a ton easier.
Yea this guy didn't want to spend the money, he'd rather just charge it when he parks it. He says sometimes he forgets, which means he isn't charging it every week. Which will eventually reduce the life of the battery, as you said.
Could you not just check across both red wires for the AC voltage from the alternator? Thanks
No, if you pause on the part where I put up the infographic, you'll see this is the way the manufacturer says the test must be done. I took that directly from the service manual. Thanks for watching!
@@EliminatorPerformance Yes, i went back and did that exactly! You are correct, that is what they say to do! Just curious! Thanks
TROY BELT TB30B wont move back or forward. what to do or fix it.
@@JAMESLAMPKINS-v2d either your transmission is stuck in forward/reverse or your brake is seized.
MY TB30R will not turn over. Battery fully charged. Ignition fuse is good. Micr switches intact, seat and side discharge. Turn ignition switch, completely dead. any suggestions? Oh yes, clutch compressed, parking brake set, shifter in neutral, blade disengaged. Working fine when I stored it for winter.
Possible blown fuse? I know the side discharge cover switch can look depressed but are actually popped out. Watch this: th-cam.com/video/VCKMhMQL8Fo/w-d-xo.html
Check the grass discharge shut for switch pop out of place
How do I remove the old batter?
I would have expected to test AC across the 2 red wires and get about 28 volts. Obviously the manual says otherwise.
No disrespect to you Eliminator but damn 370 CC for this mower LOL.
Also Craftsman R1000
My fees are $25 an hour. Not bad
I charge $70/hour plus 13% tax on top to keep the government happy. I'm the most affordable rate around for quality work, other places are $85, $95 or even $115/hour.
@@EliminatorPerformance lol dang most places in my area charge 60 to 70. Im not licensed but i have knowledge to repair stuff. Im the GO-TO man on my block. Friends and relatives bring their stuff to me. I keep everything running around here. Shops arent open Sundays but my 10x14 barn is always open. I usually tell ppl if they pay over $60 or $80 for trimmer repair they better off buying a new from walmart
@@jerrycannon6940 exactly, one of the reasons why I quit working on chainsaws and trimmers. I only service them if there running, stock air/fuel filters, and spark plugs.
This is why I will buy an electric riding mower. Not as much maintenance.
Yeah just buy a new one every year or two 😊😊😊
Columbia CR30? whatever happened to Columbia mowers? they just suddenly went POOF! GONE!
An MTD brand, Remington will end up the same way. Lowe's and Rona just cancelled their orders due to many issues with returns
Stator not Alternator
Yes I know, under the flywheel vs outside and self contained. Permanent vs electro magnets. At the end of the day, it sends current to the battery. Some even call them magneto's and people complain about me calling an ignition module a coil. This one doesn't work, I really just wanted to show the process. It's like every engine is a motor, but not all motors are engines? Lol thanks for watching though Jones!
Owner should invest in an automatic battery maintainer rather than just a trickle charger. I've seen trickle chargers overcharge and damage the battery.
Probably a stuck injector
Is that whole backstory in the beginning really necessary?