Through the process of fully feminizing my voice, I’ve unintentionally completely lost my baritone range since I never used it for so long. Ironically, now I just use my speech therapy sessions to re-masculinize my voice just so I can switch back and forth for fun and for singing.
@@Thorne_MacGregor To be honest, I’m mostly just doing vocal play, especially since I’m still figuring it all out. Recording yourself really helps with active listening I’ve noticed. Though I think the exercise I’ve had the most fun with is singing in the shower. I start with a scale exercise to bring my range as high as it can go in headvoice. After playing with that for a long while, I start singing songs with a lower and lower range. This helps with me switching in and out of headvoice seamlessly, so that moving into that lower range will come more naturally. Again, I should stress, I’m still figuring out how to train my masculine voice. Like unless I bellow, my masculine voice still mostly sounds just low-pitched femme. But I am improving, so I’d just say my advice would to play around and experiment. That’s how I feminized my voice in the first place
I’m a bass and feminising my voice has been so hard. I’m kinda at the stage where I either sound like Patti Smith or Miss Piggy when using my feminine tone.
yeah it's funny i asked a friend if she had sources i could use since i'm a voice actress and i realized after a joke someone made turns out i'm trans as well so that has been helpful
I love that feminizing one's voice is the same pattern as gender in general. "It's not what you think it is, forget what you know. It's a series of small things that go together to make up a greater whole."
I understand where you're coming from and what you mean, but that wasn't her point at all. Her point was, that - FOR NOW - we should not bother ourselves with all these different terms for vocal stuff since it is - for now - not important and we should just get started with the exercise, so we get to the practice of things. She also said right after, that if we want to know more, that she has a Patreon, yada yada. The theory of how your voice works is still important. Because it makes your brain understand on a logical level, the things you are doing with your voice. Music theory still applies to the music you play, whether you know music theory or not. Grammar still applies to a sentence you speak in a language whether you know that language's grammar or not. The various terms for working with your voice are still in effect, if you make various voices. In terms of doing vocals for music this could be regarding "true vocal cords", "false cords", "vocal fry", using your "chest voice", "head voice", pushing from your diaphragm to get more power behind your voice, tongue placement, making different shapes with your mouth to alter the sound of your voice etc. Whether you are aware of it all or not. Gravity keeps you standing on the ground. Whether you're aware of it or not. Also, in regards to the sentences you put in quotation marks: Yes, what she does to make her voice sound more feminine is precisely "what I think it is" and the way she explains it correlates to a way, "that I know" from practicing vocals for music. She has a video "Voice Feminization for ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS", where she has a short section in which she does a bit of vocal fry and uses it as a "neutral position" to switch between a heavy and a light vocal sound. She has a section in this video as well. She calls it a "creaking voice", in musical terms what she's doing here is referred to as "vocal fry". Ultimately, it is incredibly helpful to know what you are doing. Especially, if it's something like doing harsh Metal vocals, where you can damage your voice, if you don't do it correctly. But, if your goal is to make your voice sound more feminine (or masculine for that matter), it is absolutely fine to not bother with all that terminology "for now" and just get to practicing. Which is what she's doing and encouraging in the video. Have a nice day. :)
I've been told by my sibling that my voice sounds similar to a TH-camr they follow called TheClosetHistorian, who has a somewhat low voice but is still undeniably feminine. Very excited for this!! This is going to be HUGE for me
I am cis girl who just stumbled upon this video in my feed 😀 I didn't know how much depth that goes into voices when transitioning and also wow your voice can still go very low after transitioning. Interesting video!
Hi trans girl here 😊 Yes the way it goes it that on testosterone the voice drops and that's permanent. So if we trans girls live in societies that doesn't allow us to realize who we are or get into puberty blockers.. it permanently damages our voices and we have to spend years getting it back. There are surgeries, but they are costly, and you still have to train a lot. But with trans bros their voice will drop when they go on T so that's really cool for trans men. And of course cis folks get to go through the right puberty and have their own voice. But anyway thanks for the interest and the comment 😊😊
@@DeusExMachinae01 yeah, one of the things i've seen some ex trans men who detransition and then cater to conservatives on the right say as a reason not to transition to male is that it permanently lowers your voice, so if you change your mind and detransition you're now a woman with a lower masculine voice.
AAAHHH IM EXCITED!! i never felt comfortable trying to do a high pitched feminine voice like most other trans girls i know want, so it’s nice to see some low voice type stuff
really like that you're shifting your shorthand away from "exercises" and toward "explorations". very much reinforces what you've mentioned in previous videos about the importance of "exercises" being more about hearing yourself than knockony out another set of vocal crunches.
I'm a cis guy with no intention of transitioning. This is still really interesting. If you wanted to be a voice actor, this is the kind of thing you'd wind up learning. Either from directly studying it or otherwise.
I keep thinking that watching these. It’s mad watching these experts just suddenly start speaking with a drastically different voice, like I didn’t even realise that was possible.
I'm a cis guy as well. I'm a lyric baritone using these techniques to transition to tenor. They are working, but I still have a lot of kinks to work out. ( I'm trying to imitate singers like Chester Bennington and Billy Joe Arm Strong)
Incredible. It's magic. It's like watching those voice actors transform into their role and for five seconds your brain can't join what you see with what you hear.
y’all, go check out evan rachel wood’s voice in the movie “kajillionaire”-it sounds a lot like elizabeth holmes. evan’s voice in kajillionaire is her natural voice. because she’s a hollywood actress, she raises her voice in her other work to be more accessible, but for her kajillionaire character she went with her natural low voice.
That’s also pretty much exactly what I’m looking for too, I am male, but yea, for voice trolling and just to use a female voice in general for fun, this is exactly what I want to have
Talking about that masculine voice for business environments. The way to get it is to sound bright and optimistic like peterpan, sound firm and to keep your larynx relatively high! Once you do those things you just have to lower the pitch a little bit.
i’m super excited for this premier! i’ve gotten to the point where i can have a voice that’s nice and deep or a voice that gets me she/her’d on the phone, but not both. see you in five hours :D
Thank you so much for this. I have been transnitioning for 9 months now. Voice training for a week. This video got me to where I want my voice to be at, just a matter of how long i can speak at length
I'm not trans (pretty sure) but I've been on this channel way more times than I'd care to admit because these voice lessons are actually REALLY in-depth and useful.
nah, trust me. Do I feel completely 100% aligned with the binary male role, not really, but I am not trans by any means. I wouldn't claim as such as I feel it would undermine the experiences and struggles of those who are.@@josefalbihn4625
Thank you so much for doing this video, it is a topic covering strategies that I recently realized I needed to take my voice to where I wanted to go next. It has seemed to me that some voices, although perhaps technically very feminine, are a bit too bright and, well, youthful / childish sounding for those of us that are 1) bigger in overall size, bodywise and 2) chronologically older - I think this will be a great one to bookmark, as it seems intuitive (too me, at least) that for at least some women who are say 40+ and/or may also be quite tall or larger-bodied, a voice that is at least a bit larger and lower will fit them a bit more naturally. I also frankly feel for myself that, combined with good vocal purity and a snappy wardrobe, such a voice is classically feminine and can help you feel like a Hollywood starlet.
Oh my gosh I love this video and I haven't even finished watching the whole thing but I just need to stop and say that this vocal creak exercise really made something click for me! I had been thinking of asking on the Discord about how to better hear the different qualities of creak, because (like you told me in some feedback) I have a harsh edge to much of the vocal creak in my speech and it's one of the things I am currently working on. Recently I had been thinking and listening in the attempt to understand vocal creak better, and I had realized from your advice and my own impressions that it's not the case that to sound more feminine that I want "less" creak, because I can hear that there is creak in feminine speech all the time, probably about as often as in masculine speech. I just want learn to have less of a harsh or "deep" or rattling creak sound. But I hadn't figured out how to more precisely hear the difference between masculine and feminine creak and that exercise really got me to hear and feel the difference and I think I managed to make a "shallower" and more feminine creak sound! Wonderful! Now I want to take further action and try applying this in speech... and then watch the rest of the video! Thanks for another great lesson Zhea! 😊💜
I've been wondering what you'd think about investigative reporter Abby Martin's voice. It's very uniquely deep to my ears, I haven't ever heard anyone speak similarly, yet as you mention in the video still undeniably feminine. In short, she's voicegoals. 😊
Thanks so much for this video Zheanna! I find the Femme-Andro and Sultry voices really appealing and if I hadn't heard the way you use "hyper-feminine voice" I'd probably use it describe these. To me they read not really as andro but as extremely femme for whatever reason. Nailing down the intricacies of these particular vocal qualities seems like the next step beyond just voice feminization. Like getting a girl voice is cool, but getting a particular type is next level.
My gf, who has dated transwomen, claims that they are sirens and can lul you in with their many voices 😅 Watching videos like these and listening to my friends, and I concur.
Just a curious cis person with low pitched feminine voice, I dont think I ever realized how elastic our voices could be. Its fascinating! BTW, with such range, you would be a killer PJ in DnD:-D
This was very interesting, but I couldn't follow the exercises. I haven't had any graveliness in my voice since it changed when I was a teenager, and that was...some time ago. So I couldn't get the creakiness you demonstrated. My voice just kind of disappears when I try. I sang tenor in choirs all through high school and university, so my voice has always had a "round" quality to it. And I was happy to notice that your regular pitch is pretty close to what I have already! By the way, you have a phenomenal range! I can't even hit the low notes you demonstrated.
I listen to you again with your beautiful voice, and I need lots of help I think. I am a teacher at a highschool and I am extremely fussy about my voice. I do everything I can to communicate clearly to my students so that they don’t get me wrong. I’m probably going to subscribe to your Patreon maybe in another week or so but I’m amazed with what you can do with a lower voice. My voice might match my size because I’m really large 6 feet 3/200 pounds and a little frightening, but working on my voice, is like the next important thing that I do. It’s not that I don’t use my voice in the way that expresses me. I try my best. Thank you for your video. ❤
Before I discovered your videos, three days ago, I've been having to practice these exact same things and figure them out on my own I appreciate you for the help, developing the feminine voice is not so hard it's more just to have it to develop unless your Macho Man Randy Savage or something
I've been a voice impressionist my whole life. From George Bush to Amazon Alexa. But for some reason I just can't get a suitable feminine voice for my daily life. But, your videos really help a lot in allowing me to find my fem voice! I don't wanna sound "like a girl," I want sound like the feminine version of myself! As a fellow Transwoman, I can't thank you enough. My voice & my facial hair are like the last 2 things on my "transition to-do-list" ... But you're helping me with one of them girl ❤ bless you love!!!
Im a straight guy, (guess cis is the term used) and have been learning about the trans experience recently. This is something I didn’t think might all go into this. This is Important work I’m sure, and for free! 👍
I really like the voice at 12:16. Elizabeth Holmes' voice reminds me too much of the sound of women's voices put through pitch shifting, but maybe that's my frame of reference listening to a lot of music that messes with samples.
I really hope I find a voice that I'm comfortable with soon. I've already improved a lot, but I'm still scared that I'll never get to where I want to be
The voice example at 2:50 where you show feminine voice on male pitch put me aback for a bit but then I realized it sounds exactly like a woman's voice if she were enhale a heavy noble gas. I'm being a nerd here, but there's gases that work like helium (which make your voice higher) but make your voice a little bit high, or don't change anything, or make it a bit lower or a lot lower. Look up "breathing all the noble gases" on youtube, it's so worth it
YES! Im trans fem and became a bass after puberty, and while I def want a feminine voice, I also don’t want to lose having a _deep_ voice. It’s been hard to figure out how to make that work, though. This video sounds like it’ll explain what I’ve been missing! 😁
Impressive ! These teaching qualities when we know your work on harmonies / microtonality beside. I'm just wondering if 24 hours per day is enough for you ? The kindness in your voice tone is just here to proove it !
2:51 Voice texture! That's what it is! Is that the thing I'm missing in my mimicry of Larry Koopa's voice? My voice texture is the same as it always is because I don't know how to change that, but I get his pitch correct (because I'm pretty high pitch to begin with, so Larry's 13-year-old boy pitch isn't hard to reach) and everything else about his voice correct when mimicking Michelle Hippe's take on Larry Koopa, but the one thing I don't have correct is voice texture because that's the one thing I don't know how to change, so it stays stagnated at my regular voice texture, but going up to Larry's pitch and rasping and doing that all right except voice texture! My gooossshhhhhhhhh that lifts stress off me. Alright, so now I just need to learn how to change my voice texture... 3:25 No, I, by all means, agree with you there. That's exactly why I choose to mimic Michelle Hippe's take on Larry instead of Lani Minella's take on Larry. Michelle Hippe's take on Larry is higher pitched, raspy, and as such, far easier to mimic. I can't even get as close with mimicking Lani Minella's take on Larry as I can Michelle Hippe's take on Larry, my mimicry of Michelle Hippe's take on Larry is only just missing one thing and one thing only, and it's a pretty big and bothersome thing it's missing, I'm convinced that it's missing the correct voice texture. 3:45 Yes, this is the answer I was looking for, thank you so much! My natural texture has a bit too much edge in it. It's a bit too... I want to say grainy? Rough? Snappy? At the same time, my voice doesn't sound like how male voices traditionally sound. If I could achieve a more feminine voice texture rather than the androgynous one I currently have, I could better mimic Larry! Not sure I need to watch the rest when it comes to trying to modify the texture of my voice to sound more feminine so that when I go to Larry's high pitch and rasp my voice like Larry's voice, I will have the sound in the back being a feminine texture sound instead of a rougher, snappier, grainier but still not traditionally masculine texture sound, but I will watch the rest anyway, but I'm gonna post this comment before I watch the rest since I don't think I need to say anything else here, also considering this is for helping trans people with a lower feminine sounding voice.
I really need to work on my voice because it's one of my biggest dysphoria triggers and it's a dead giveaway regardless of whether I'm passing or not (spoiler warning: I don't pass 90% of the time) Instead of trying to blast my pitch to the high cute gremlin levels I wish I had, I wouldn't mind having a deep yet clearly feminine voice. Nobody questions if Laura Prepon sounds feminine, and she's got one ofy favorite voices
When you switched to low, it took a few for me to realize what had happened. Clearly you have a beautiful voice, wherever it is. ❤ I have a 10 note voice range. Most people have way more range. Can this be changed? I laughed when you went lower, it was surprising. 😂
2:25 fighting to go lower is actually a mental thing Mind is tuned to be lower 2:50 real low but something about is still diff and doesn’t sound quite masculine 4:08 woah she can do a real male voice 6:05 nice vocal fry very male sounding ---- 7:30, 7:55 masculine demo again --- 8:40 masculine yawn -- 8:57, 9:10 ee low 9:25 9:48 even if make ee smaller but don’t get rid of vocal fry spikes still doesn’t sound female
11:07 low fem voice 11:55 even if have masculine voice the low can sound strained That’s cus it’s not about what you naturally have but relativity So how relaxed low or high notes feel has more to do w how we approach those jotes -- 12:11 showcase of lower fem voice types Amazing 13:09 13:40 male yawn
11:07 low fem voice 11:55 even if have masculine voice the low can sound strained That’s cus it’s not about what you naturally have but relativity So how relaxed low or high notes feel has more to do w how we approach those jotes -- 12:11 showcase of lower fem voice types Amazing 13:09 13:40 male yawn
Rather like a female news reader Amelia, I get it, LOL from Petra-Brown, I enjoy your exercises, I have been getting wonderful voices, watch folk whom I meet or see on TV
I think @12:15 is about the only feminine voice I can even come close to, but I still have something about it that sounds masculine in a way and I can't put my finger on what it is.
The thing is, it's the texture and tone, it's not obvious to a lot of people, but there's a tone to it, like a very effeminate gay guy kinda voice, that slightly nasally tone with a slight low undertone.
Omg I KNEW it wasn't my imagination. I've been trying to achieve a sort of lower pitch/tomboyish voice and I felt like even though it *should* be easier than trying to do a super fem/higher pitch voice, it's actually been noticeably harder, I feel like my struggle has been validated XD
@@I-i9J yes and no haha, I've made overall general improvements, but I prioritized the basics because I was starting a new job soon and I wanted to rush a passing voice, which I kind of did, but I have my default nerdy inflection, so I don't yet have the tomboy quality I'm looking for.
@@tigerwizard6388 The fact that you are trying is the essence of the foundation, and this indicates your unwavering determination and the strength of your resolve to achieve this goal, which is truly remarkable!! It is unfortunate that you were unable to reach the tomboy tone, but if you need assistance in a voice call, I am present and ready to fulfill that, being a skilled individual in voice modulation "if you do not mind of course"
Ive been trying to add an H sound (like the h at the end of a long aaah), dunno if its a good thing to do but it helps me get it smoother somehow😅 This video was really nice tho! Its gonna help me alot and I look forward to the upcoming vids :))
Hi Zhea, I just subbed to the Patreon and was looking for that four hour workshop you described in this video. What tier can you find it on, and what’s the title of it called? Thanks!
I feel like I need this I a a Bass by nature and I have a hard time with any form of pitch that goes higher plus i find the depth means im sounding too heavy.
How do you get rid of buzz in the vocal cords without introducing low resonance or vice versa? Is that just anatomical, or is there a technique for getting rid of both at the same time that works regardless of "instrument"?
Consistency is what I struggle the MOST in my life. And it's required for training voice. I hate my voice, why can't I just take pill and so it changes itself. I am only one week into this, and I am desperate, I can't understand, and none of my experiments are good. I just want not to talk ever again. I should take a break...
Through the process of fully feminizing my voice, I’ve unintentionally completely lost my baritone range since I never used it for so long. Ironically, now I just use my speech therapy sessions to re-masculinize my voice just so I can switch back and forth for fun and for singing.
Do you possibly have any good tips for training both ranges? I'd love to hear your methods if you care to share them.
@@Thorne_MacGregor To be honest, I’m mostly just doing vocal play, especially since I’m still figuring it all out. Recording yourself really helps with active listening I’ve noticed.
Though I think the exercise I’ve had the most fun with is singing in the shower. I start with a scale exercise to bring my range as high as it can go in headvoice. After playing with that for a long while, I start singing songs with a lower and lower range. This helps with me switching in and out of headvoice seamlessly, so that moving into that lower range will come more naturally.
Again, I should stress, I’m still figuring out how to train my masculine voice. Like unless I bellow, my masculine voice still mostly sounds just low-pitched femme. But I am improving, so I’d just say my advice would to play around and experiment. That’s how I feminized my voice in the first place
@@britneyhochman5204 thank you so much for your input! I appreciate it, and I hope all goes well for you.
I’m a bass and feminising my voice has been so hard. I’m kinda at the stage where I either sound like Patti Smith or Miss Piggy when using my feminine tone.
Valid I think the same happened to me lmfao
1:13 is insane. Your editor is a crazy person
oh my god i love her she is so funny
vivian pfp spotted
I’m not trans but this was a lot harder than i expected. Best wishes on your journeys to your ideal self.
yeah it's funny i asked a friend if she had sources i could use since i'm a voice actress and i realized after a joke someone made turns out i'm trans as well so that has been helpful
what was the joke?
Probably she’s already there
Girl hell yes! I love low women's voices.
Me, too!!
what if... a man had a low feminine voice... would like... it be cool ;Q
@@looof3719that’s literally just gay males’ voices
@goldengummyshark did you not learn anything from the video
@@MudraptorGaming no i did. but the key word in that sentence was “man”
I love that feminizing one's voice is the same pattern as gender in general. "It's not what you think it is, forget what you know. It's a series of small things that go together to make up a greater whole."
I understand where you're coming from and what you mean, but that wasn't her point at all. Her point was, that - FOR NOW - we should not bother ourselves with all these different terms for vocal stuff since it is - for now - not important and we should just get started with the exercise, so we get to the practice of things. She also said right after, that if we want to know more, that she has a Patreon, yada yada. The theory of how your voice works is still important. Because it makes your brain understand on a logical level, the things you are doing with your voice.
Music theory still applies to the music you play, whether you know music theory or not. Grammar still applies to a sentence you speak in a language whether you know that language's grammar or not.
The various terms for working with your voice are still in effect, if you make various voices. In terms of doing vocals for music this could be regarding "true vocal cords", "false cords", "vocal fry", using your "chest voice", "head voice", pushing from your diaphragm to get more power behind your voice, tongue placement, making different shapes with your mouth to alter the sound of your voice etc. Whether you are aware of it all or not.
Gravity keeps you standing on the ground. Whether you're aware of it or not.
Also, in regards to the sentences you put in quotation marks:
Yes, what she does to make her voice sound more feminine is precisely "what I think it is" and the way she explains it correlates to a way, "that I know" from practicing vocals for music. She has a video "Voice Feminization for ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS", where she has a short section in which she does a bit of vocal fry and uses it as a "neutral position" to switch between a heavy and a light vocal sound. She has a section in this video as well. She calls it a "creaking voice", in musical terms what she's doing here is referred to as "vocal fry".
Ultimately, it is incredibly helpful to know what you are doing. Especially, if it's something like doing harsh Metal vocals, where you can damage your voice, if you don't do it correctly. But, if your goal is to make your voice sound more feminine (or masculine for that matter), it is absolutely fine to not bother with all that terminology "for now" and just get to practicing.
Which is what she's doing and encouraging in the video.
Have a nice day. :)
I've been told by my sibling that my voice sounds similar to a TH-camr they follow called TheClosetHistorian, who has a somewhat low voice but is still undeniably feminine. Very excited for this!! This is going to be HUGE for me
Random thing but I watch this person and absolutely love her voice so 👍🤣
Holy crap the amount of variation you can produce in your voice is insane
I am cis girl who just stumbled upon this video in my feed 😀 I didn't know how much depth that goes into voices when transitioning and also wow your voice can still go very low after transitioning. Interesting video!
Hi trans girl here 😊 Yes the way it goes it that on testosterone the voice drops and that's permanent. So if we trans girls live in societies that doesn't allow us to realize who we are or get into puberty blockers.. it permanently damages our voices and we have to spend years getting it back. There are surgeries, but they are costly, and you still have to train a lot. But with trans bros their voice will drop when they go on T so that's really cool for trans men. And of course cis folks get to go through the right puberty and have their own voice. But anyway thanks for the interest and the comment 😊😊
@@DeusExMachinae01yep. E doesn't lower our voices on its own unfortunately.
@@Sophia-vk5bq That would have been nice...
@@DeusExMachinae01 yeah, one of the things i've seen some ex trans men who detransition and then cater to conservatives on the right say as a reason not to transition to male is that it permanently lowers your voice, so if you change your mind and detransition you're now a woman with a lower masculine voice.
AAAHHH IM EXCITED!! i never felt comfortable trying to do a high pitched feminine voice like most other trans girls i know want, so it’s nice to see some low voice type stuff
really like that you're shifting your shorthand away from "exercises" and toward "explorations". very much reinforces what you've mentioned in previous videos about the importance of "exercises" being more about hearing yourself than knockony out another set of vocal crunches.
I'm a cis guy with no intention of transitioning. This is still really interesting. If you wanted to be a voice actor, this is the kind of thing you'd wind up learning. Either from directly studying it or otherwise.
Hahah I’m also a cis dude and find this pretty fascinating. I applaud trans folks for the crazy amount effort they put into themselves.
I keep thinking that watching these. It’s mad watching these experts just suddenly start speaking with a drastically different voice, like I didn’t even realise that was possible.
I'm a cis guy as well. I'm a lyric baritone using these techniques to transition to tenor. They are working, but I still have a lot of kinks to work out. ( I'm trying to imitate singers like Chester Bennington and Billy Joe Arm Strong)
thank god for this, ive been gunning for a deep feminine voice but all the videos, tips, a tricks are for high ones, you're an angel
Incredible. It's magic. It's like watching those voice actors transform into their role and for five seconds your brain can't join what you see with what you hear.
I'm just here bc I'm an ally istg that's the only reason why I'm here
oh hey this is the same thing i said a few years ago before i started HRT
You’re just down bad it’s okay to be honest @ordoarc4739
Ally or egg? 💁🏻♀️
@@Sophia-vk5bq like I said; istg I'm just an ally, not an egg. I promise. I don't even know what "egg" means
Yeah how's that coming for you one month on?
y’all, go check out evan rachel wood’s voice in the movie “kajillionaire”-it sounds a lot like elizabeth holmes. evan’s voice in kajillionaire is her natural voice. because she’s a hollywood actress, she raises her voice in her other work to be more accessible, but for her kajillionaire character she went with her natural low voice.
14:14 THIS!!! This is the voice I want!
Noir detective lady
That’s also pretty much exactly what I’m looking for too, I am male, but yea, for voice trolling and just to use a female voice in general for fun, this is exactly what I want to have
Talking about that masculine voice for business environments.
The way to get it is to sound bright and optimistic like peterpan, sound firm and to keep your larynx relatively high!
Once you do those things you just have to lower the pitch a little bit.
i’m super excited for this premier! i’ve gotten to the point where i can have a voice that’s nice and deep or a voice that gets me she/her’d on the phone, but not both. see you in five hours :D
I just started vocal training last week and your videos have been really useful for information
thank you :)
why do you need training if you are female?
@@idiotidiot2805 Bro.. 💀
Thank you so much for this. I have been transnitioning for 9 months now. Voice training for a week. This video got me to where I want my voice to be at, just a matter of how long i can speak at length
Low female voices are the most gorgeous kind.
OMG WHEN YOU WANT TO A LOW VOICE MY JAW DROPPED ON HOW AMAZING YOUR VOICE IS IM SCREAMINGGGG
Fr that's what I'm saying
Love these videos! I spent hundreds of dollars on voice therapy but I made SO much more progress thanks to this channel. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
I'm not trans (pretty sure) but I've been on this channel way more times than I'd care to admit because these voice lessons are actually REALLY in-depth and useful.
🥚
nah, trust me. Do I feel completely 100% aligned with the binary male role, not really, but I am not trans by any means. I wouldn't claim as such as I feel it would undermine the experiences and struggles of those who are.@@josefalbihn4625
"at this lower pitch it sounds unnatrual"
*still sounds very good*
Thank you so much for doing this video, it is a topic covering strategies that I recently realized I needed to take my voice to where I wanted to go next. It has seemed to me that some voices, although perhaps technically very feminine, are a bit too bright and, well, youthful / childish sounding for those of us that are 1) bigger in overall size, bodywise and 2) chronologically older - I think this will be a great one to bookmark, as it seems intuitive (too me, at least) that for at least some women who are say 40+ and/or may also be quite tall or larger-bodied, a voice that is at least a bit larger and lower will fit them a bit more naturally. I also frankly feel for myself that, combined with good vocal purity and a snappy wardrobe, such a voice is classically feminine and can help you feel like a Hollywood starlet.
Oh my gosh I love this video and I haven't even finished watching the whole thing but I just need to stop and say that this vocal creak exercise really made something click for me! I had been thinking of asking on the Discord about how to better hear the different qualities of creak, because (like you told me in some feedback) I have a harsh edge to much of the vocal creak in my speech and it's one of the things I am currently working on. Recently I had been thinking and listening in the attempt to understand vocal creak better, and I had realized from your advice and my own impressions that it's not the case that to sound more feminine that I want "less" creak, because I can hear that there is creak in feminine speech all the time, probably about as often as in masculine speech. I just want learn to have less of a harsh or "deep" or rattling creak sound. But I hadn't figured out how to more precisely hear the difference between masculine and feminine creak and that exercise really got me to hear and feel the difference and I think I managed to make a "shallower" and more feminine creak sound! Wonderful! Now I want to take further action and try applying this in speech... and then watch the rest of the video! Thanks for another great lesson Zhea! 😊💜
I've been wondering what you'd think about investigative reporter Abby Martin's voice.
It's very uniquely deep to my ears, I haven't ever heard anyone speak similarly, yet as you mention in the video still undeniably feminine.
In short, she's voicegoals. 😊
You won my heart with the creaking boards
I love your screen transitions between topics!! So flashy ~
Thanks so much for this video Zheanna!
I find the Femme-Andro and Sultry voices really appealing and if I hadn't heard the way you use "hyper-feminine voice" I'd probably use it describe these. To me they read not really as andro but as extremely femme for whatever reason.
Nailing down the intricacies of these particular vocal qualities seems like the next step beyond just voice feminization. Like getting a girl voice is cool, but getting a particular type is next level.
loooove your advice! Nearly 2 years m2f transition for me and your vids are the most helpful and relatable. thank you :)
My gf, who has dated transwomen, claims that they are sirens and can lul you in with their many voices 😅 Watching videos like these and listening to my friends, and I concur.
In 95% of cases you can easily hear if it is a transwoman or a real woman. Most just sound like men that try to sound like a woman :D
My fav dommy mommy voice TH-camrs are all guys.
This has been my biggest problem with my voice training. Thank you so much!!
Yes I really like my voice that’s already low but I’ve been experimenting for a more feminine sound.
Just a curious cis person with low pitched feminine voice, I dont think I ever realized how elastic our voices could be. Its fascinating! BTW, with such range, you would be a killer PJ in DnD:-D
What is a PJ?
@@AdaDenali(also my question)
Maybe like, polymorph… something? No idea what the j would be?
uhh pajama maybe
This was very interesting, but I couldn't follow the exercises. I haven't had any graveliness in my voice since it changed when I was a teenager, and that was...some time ago. So I couldn't get the creakiness you demonstrated. My voice just kind of disappears when I try. I sang tenor in choirs all through high school and university, so my voice has always had a "round" quality to it. And I was happy to notice that your regular pitch is pretty close to what I have already!
By the way, you have a phenomenal range! I can't even hit the low notes you demonstrated.
I listen to you again with your beautiful voice, and I need lots of help I think. I am a teacher at a highschool and I am extremely fussy about my voice. I do everything I can to communicate clearly to my students so that they don’t get me wrong. I’m probably going to subscribe to your Patreon maybe in another week or so but I’m amazed with what you can do with a lower voice. My voice might match my size because I’m really large 6 feet 3/200 pounds and a little frightening, but working on my voice, is like the next important thing that I do. It’s not that I don’t use my voice in the way that expresses me. I try my best. Thank you for your video. ❤
Those years of choir in middle school really paying off. 😊
Before I discovered your videos, three days ago, I've been having to practice these exact same things and figure them out on my own I appreciate you for the help, developing the feminine voice is not so hard it's more just to have it to develop unless your Macho Man Randy Savage or something
Im more of a tomboy so im looking for this sort of thing cause my in progress fem voice is a bit too high pitched for my liking
I've been a voice impressionist my whole life. From George Bush to Amazon Alexa. But for some reason I just can't get a suitable feminine voice for my daily life. But, your videos really help a lot in allowing me to find my fem voice!
I don't wanna sound "like a girl," I want sound like the feminine version of myself! As a fellow Transwoman, I can't thank you enough. My voice & my facial hair are like the last 2 things on my "transition to-do-list" ... But you're helping me with one of them girl ❤ bless you love!!!
Such a helpful video as always!! Thanks for everything you lovely light ❤🙏 all the best of the good vibes your way! 😊
Im a straight guy, (guess cis is the term used) and have been learning about the trans experience recently. This is something I didn’t think might all go into this.
This is Important work I’m sure, and for free! 👍
Thanks!! You are doing such important work❤❤❤
I really like the voice at 12:16. Elizabeth Holmes' voice reminds me too much of the sound of women's voices put through pitch shifting, but maybe that's my frame of reference listening to a lot of music that messes with samples.
I really hope I find a voice that I'm comfortable with soon. I've already improved a lot, but I'm still scared that I'll never get to where I want to be
Awesome. So I got a hit piece ad from The Epoch Times on trans people and parental "rights" before this started. Great work Xtube, I mean YT. 🤦🏻♀️
The voice example at 2:50 where you show feminine voice on male pitch put me aback for a bit but then I realized it sounds exactly like a woman's voice if she were enhale a heavy noble gas. I'm being a nerd here, but there's gases that work like helium (which make your voice higher) but make your voice a little bit high, or don't change anything, or make it a bit lower or a lot lower. Look up "breathing all the noble gases" on youtube, it's so worth it
YES! Im trans fem and became a bass after puberty, and while I def want a feminine voice, I also don’t want to lose having a _deep_ voice. It’s been hard to figure out how to make that work, though. This video sounds like it’ll explain what I’ve been missing! 😁
Amazing teacher. Thank you.
Impressive ! These teaching qualities when we know your work on harmonies / microtonality beside. I'm just wondering if 24 hours per day is enough for you ? The kindness in your voice tone is just here to proove it !
ty so much you helped me like A LOT! I love ur channel!! S2 S2
Needed this
Finally. You got this.
@1:17 I love how Zheanna is completely serious but sprinkles in that little chaotic gag anyway
the tyler1 bit caught me so of guard, i cant stop laughing
question: Is a hyper feminine voices just a higher pitch on top of low weight and size?
I think it might be useful because of my larynx anatomy and the fact that I can't actually raise it
Thank you for the videos!!!
Yeah I signed up to PayPal again. Just for support. Glad to be back
This is helpful. Thank you💜
2:51 Voice texture! That's what it is! Is that the thing I'm missing in my mimicry of Larry Koopa's voice? My voice texture is the same as it always is because I don't know how to change that, but I get his pitch correct (because I'm pretty high pitch to begin with, so Larry's 13-year-old boy pitch isn't hard to reach) and everything else about his voice correct when mimicking Michelle Hippe's take on Larry Koopa, but the one thing I don't have correct is voice texture because that's the one thing I don't know how to change, so it stays stagnated at my regular voice texture, but going up to Larry's pitch and rasping and doing that all right except voice texture! My gooossshhhhhhhhh that lifts stress off me. Alright, so now I just need to learn how to change my voice texture...
3:25 No, I, by all means, agree with you there. That's exactly why I choose to mimic Michelle Hippe's take on Larry instead of Lani Minella's take on Larry. Michelle Hippe's take on Larry is higher pitched, raspy, and as such, far easier to mimic. I can't even get as close with mimicking Lani Minella's take on Larry as I can Michelle Hippe's take on Larry, my mimicry of Michelle Hippe's take on Larry is only just missing one thing and one thing only, and it's a pretty big and bothersome thing it's missing, I'm convinced that it's missing the correct voice texture.
3:45 Yes, this is the answer I was looking for, thank you so much! My natural texture has a bit too much edge in it. It's a bit too... I want to say grainy? Rough? Snappy? At the same time, my voice doesn't sound like how male voices traditionally sound. If I could achieve a more feminine voice texture rather than the androgynous one I currently have, I could better mimic Larry!
Not sure I need to watch the rest when it comes to trying to modify the texture of my voice to sound more feminine so that when I go to Larry's high pitch and rasp my voice like Larry's voice, I will have the sound in the back being a feminine texture sound instead of a rougher, snappier, grainier but still not traditionally masculine texture sound, but I will watch the rest anyway, but I'm gonna post this comment before I watch the rest since I don't think I need to say anything else here, also considering this is for helping trans people with a lower feminine sounding voice.
I'm actually a trans man but I'm watching this for voice acting lol. Trans solidarity!!
This was an amazing video. Thank you!
To be sweet and deeper, not falsetto Zheana ❤
I really need to work on my voice because it's one of my biggest dysphoria triggers and it's a dead giveaway regardless of whether I'm passing or not (spoiler warning: I don't pass 90% of the time)
Instead of trying to blast my pitch to the high cute gremlin levels I wish I had, I wouldn't mind having a deep yet clearly feminine voice. Nobody questions if Laura Prepon sounds feminine, and she's got one ofy favorite voices
"its ya girl, Z" i miss your old introduction i thought it was cute😻
I did NOT expect to see tyler1 on this channel lmao
the "treaty" part is so funny
When you switched to low, it took a few for me to realize what had happened. Clearly you have a beautiful voice, wherever it is. ❤ I have a 10 note voice range. Most people have way more range. Can this be changed? I laughed when you went lower, it was surprising. 😂
Yes it can be extended if you practice
realistic voice training goals: 🙅♀️
voice training to sound like ellen ripley: 💃
2:25 fighting to go lower is actually a mental thing
Mind is tuned to be lower
2:50 real low but something about is still diff and doesn’t sound quite masculine
4:08 woah she can do a real male voice
6:05 nice vocal fry very male sounding
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7:30, 7:55 masculine demo again
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8:40 masculine yawn
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8:57, 9:10 ee low 9:25
9:48 even if make ee smaller but don’t get rid of vocal fry spikes still doesn’t sound female
11:07 low fem voice
11:55 even if have masculine voice the low can sound strained
That’s cus it’s not about what you naturally have but relativity
So how relaxed low or high notes feel has more to do w how we approach those jotes
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12:11 showcase of lower fem voice types
Amazing
13:09
13:40 male yawn
I’m currently working on eliminating the masculine raspiness in my voice.
LMFAO tyler clip really caught me off guard 🤣
Came here for the gender-affirming voice lesson, stayed for the examples of voice at 1:15 that made me giggle in the first ninety seconds :D
11:07 low fem voice
11:55 even if have masculine voice the low can sound strained
That’s cus it’s not about what you naturally have but relativity
So how relaxed low or high notes feel has more to do w how we approach those jotes
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12:11 showcase of lower fem voice types
Amazing
13:09
13:40 male yawn
Rather like a female news reader Amelia, I get it, LOL from Petra-Brown, I enjoy your exercises, I have been getting wonderful voices, watch folk whom I meet or see on TV
I think @12:15 is about the only feminine voice I can even come close to, but I still have something about it that sounds masculine in a way and I can't put my finger on what it is.
Is the creak exercise like a fry scream? Sometimes when I sing high notes, it starts turning into a fry scream. What does this mean?
The thing is, it's the texture and tone, it's not obvious to a lot of people, but there's a tone to it, like a very effeminate gay guy kinda voice, that slightly nasally tone with a slight low undertone.
Omg I KNEW it wasn't my imagination. I've been trying to achieve a sort of lower pitch/tomboyish voice and I felt like even though it *should* be easier than trying to do a super fem/higher pitch voice, it's actually been noticeably harder, I feel like my struggle has been validated XD
Did u reach any results?
@@I-i9J yes and no haha, I've made overall general improvements, but I prioritized the basics because I was starting a new job soon and I wanted to rush a passing voice, which I kind of did, but I have my default nerdy inflection, so I don't yet have the tomboy quality I'm looking for.
@@tigerwizard6388 The fact that you are trying is the essence of the foundation, and this indicates your unwavering determination and the strength of your resolve to achieve this goal, which is truly remarkable!! It is unfortunate that you were unable to reach the tomboy tone, but if you need assistance in a voice call, I am present and ready to fulfill that, being a skilled individual in voice modulation "if you do not mind of course"
Ive been trying to add an H sound (like the h at the end of a long aaah), dunno if its a good thing to do but it helps me get it smoother somehow😅 This video was really nice tho! Its gonna help me alot and I look forward to the upcoming vids :))
thank you for this
I can't hold the creak for like more than a second
I still have no idea what I'm doing wrong with this. I cant get rid of the buzziness that makes it sound like I inhaled helium
you are insanely talented
Hi Zhea, I just subbed to the Patreon and was looking for that four hour workshop you described in this video. What tier can you find it on, and what’s the title of it called? Thanks!
I’ve always pointed out that Jessica Rabbit had a pretty deep voice and no one ever said she sounds masculine.
I feel like I need this I a a Bass by nature and I have a hard time with any form of pitch that goes higher plus i find the depth means im sounding too heavy.
How do you get rid of buzz in the vocal cords without introducing low resonance or vice versa? Is that just anatomical, or is there a technique for getting rid of both at the same time that works regardless of "instrument"?
8:44 😂😂😂
Yes please, I'm quite tall so going too high pitched feels really awkward.
Hello my girl Z
Consistency is what I struggle the MOST in my life. And it's required for training voice. I hate my voice, why can't I just take pill and so it changes itself. I am only one week into this, and I am desperate, I can't understand, and none of my experiments are good. I just want not to talk ever again.
I should take a break...
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Lmao 1:13 Tyler tiling into nonexistence
I am still exercising my feminized voice Zheanna, all is well. ❤ from Petra
Wtf. That low voice was creazy
This gonna make my reccomended think I'm trans but I'm just trying to become a better voice actor