Voice Tips: Proper Practice and Vocal Care
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2023
- Hi everyone!! In this video we'll be discussing some common misconceptions students have when attempting to apply the exercises they learn for Voice Feminization. This video will touch on proper practice, vocal care, and other elements such as learning to dynamically tweak our voice in real-time, even without being in a strict learning environment!
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► How to Hear Resonance : • HEARING VOCAL RESONANCE
warmly,
TVL
It’s been years, two of them for me. It’s insane to me, Z isn’t just goals anymore like if I wanted it I could sound like her, I could, it’s not the distant goal that it was when I first started but I finally have a voice that makes *me* happy. I did it, I won.
the heart is filled with joy ♥️
@@TransVoiceLessons I don't know if you saw my comment, I know I'm being so annoying but I don't want you to forget about my scholarship 🥹
@@annatiravanti5368 Haven't forgotten! We are actually about to publish a formalization of scholarship process (and get back to you)! The past few weeks have been spent taking care of loose ends from 2020-2021 so we can get organized better moving forward before expanding all of our programs! :D
@@TransVoiceLessons yayyyyyy thank you so so so much❤️
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Just as you said, I definitely experienced the biggest growth in my voice skills when I started using my feminine voice not only in in my bedroom, but also in everyday situations. That way, instead of just a few practice sessions a day, every social encounter become a voice training opportunity. Months later, I finally became comfortable with it, and now, I can fluently maintain it. Thanks Zhea!
It’s been over a year since I started learning from Z and let me tell you it works!! I never get misgendered over the phone anymore and all of my trans friends are jealous of my abilities and I’m far from done. If you’re here because you want to learn, you’re in the right place.
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Yessss it’s important
Thank you so much for this, gave me some joy to see this as the first comment
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Lol
Oh my goodnesd this girl is everywhere ♡ ^&^
Oh my god. I think you framing vocal feminization as an active work has completely changed how i see the whole process! I've been flopping recently trying to almost recreate exercises irl.
It's about dynamic interaction! Listen during and react to what you hear during. It's about constant and real time adjustment as you interact with what you hear.
Those thumbnails of your “learn voice NOW” killed me 😂🫠
I love how technical objectiv you can be about this stuff and at the same time i listen to how learning basically is metaphorically speaking for how much spagetthi sticks to a wall if you throw it against over time :D
Return of the QUEEN.
I haven't heard your voice for a while, I really love how it's changed. You sound so beautiful and relaxed 💞
Thanks Z. Wonderful condensed knowledge and positive vibes.
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ooh, a new video! :D thank you, Z, for helping me out on my new life path!
I really hope you add this video to the playlist. I feel like this video really puts into perspective the process outside of the excercises, even better than the overview video does.
Thank you so much for this valuable video! This really cautioned me at the right time, and I'm so inspired to continue in a healthier way!
I remember all of this from your previous video, but thank you so much for reminding me of some of the finer points from that video. Also, can I please say how validating it is to see the way you speak to large groups of people in the same way I do? I've always been all over the place, but that movement, be it with my body or by accentuating my speech with hand movements, help me so much to keep myself on track, and it's so wonderful to see others doing similar things and absolutely KILLING IT. Gives me hope for myself. 🧡
You're just amazing. I've been slacking HARD with voice training, but I've known about your channel for a while. It's great not being confused about what to do, it's just actually doing it. I've been finally practicing and this video helped a lot! Again, you're amazing.
PS The computing analogies were dope too
As always absolutely excellent information delivered beautifully 🏳️⚧️ ❤✨
love you Z and your vids! ❤
the thing around 11:30 is really a problem for me because I try to apply my trained voice when speaking to other people but I automatically revert back to my old voice and I just cant really control that. Especially when talking to my friends, when I'm at the counter in the store and I'm talking to the cashier then I use my trained voice but when I'm talking to my friends then I'm reverting back to the voice I associate with chilling and thats my old voice.
Is a mental status, where you felt safe to revert into old voice instead of get into trouble (not really but maybe you think this way) by staying in your in-training voice. Try to think that nothing is gonna happens that is your natural voice (in-training) and see if that helps you navigate.
this is so helpful! thank you for your videos they're the best!
You're so welcome! Glad to help
Your lessons feel like a session of Yoga, it really relaxes, I try various teachers to find the best overall favourite, I now have three favourites, You, Olivia Flanagan and Ronja Peterson, Ronja does sing geek, Olivia does greeting people, I love a mixture of all three teachings Zheanna.
LOL from Petra Brown ❤
new TransVoiceLessons video hell yeah
thanks for this 🤍
0:30 3:36 4:02 4:45 (Interactively Playing the Patterns/Tweaks in your Voice)
(Not a process of Staticism)
6: 28 8:24 problems here become more Cognitive 눈치 than technical
8:48 (Clear Model, Mental Picture, Target) - Cranial Nerve Voice Management
7:34
10:11 (Trust the Process)
10:52
13:48 Humans are Sensory NLP's
16:00 Finesse & Precision (Broad spaces where you can Play & Seduce your Core in)
16:14 (vocal underdoer) - not using your Voice as much
Quite new to this, my best friend is trans and kinda my inspiration
Thought about this for a few years and suddenly this is posted today like its calling
Will binge watch it all as I go, quite the goal with my current voice
Have fun and enjoy what you're doing. Take breaks don't over stress
I think it started working when I was able to consistently use the voice for short conversations with e.g. cassiers.
Learning how a new voice is like learning a new language.
English isn't my first language (My native one is Portuguese) and I'm only able to communicate very well in this tongue (as I'm doing now for example) because I started practing it by watching videos, thanking, and talking to myself, all of this entirety in English.
Along the time to communicate became more and more natural and fluid.
What I'm trying to say is that that's exactly the same that happens with voice training.
This is the missing piece of my voice triforce.
"Interact with it.."🙂
Thank you..🌻
couldn't agree more
8:00 way of thinking of voice anything is possible need to be willing to experiment and persist
11;00 even w all the skills need to use it in social setting
"Practice makes perfect. The more you try the faster you learn."
With this tought I keep trying making noises and I'm constantly adjusting the voice (whatever resonance, pitch or other).
So cute 😍😍🥰❤️
WHY IS THAT SUPER SPICY SEXY MICROTONAL CHORD IN THIS VIDEO LIKE SHES A GENIUS WITH VOCALS AND STUFF AND THEN SHES FLEXING THE MUSIC THEORY DAMN
4:50 DOES SHE KNOW? LOL
On a more serious note, great video and a much needed eye-opener.
New TransVoiceLessons video 🏳️⚧️💕❤️❤️
I've actually recently gotten absolutely addicted to voice training 😅
All of these videos are absolutely fantastic!
Everything in this video is logical stuff you need someone to tell you to understand, but when you hear it you feel like you should've known lol
Part of the proces does involve developing "mucles?" in your throat but from what I know it's just the raising larynx part that does that.
Still pain is bad
How do I even start practicing. I don't get it as much as I do.
I want to start voice training at home, but all of your tutorials on voice training are years old. Do you have any suggestions on updated, newer tutorials? Do you plan on making new tutorials?
Curious, do you think the lessons she taught earlier on have expired? As far as I know, they are likely still accurate, but I cannot speak for her
In some of the more recent training videos she's addressed the areas she was either wrong about or wasn't explaining correctly/clearly. Between z and going through picking bits from other yt vids you should be about to get a pretty good foundation to work from. Even the least helpful girl voice videos have helped me pick apart what I should or shouldn't do to get where I want to be. Remember you can learn a lot by analyzing others mistakes too.
Anything after the Immediate Beginners video is up-to-date, everything between that and the R1 video isn't too perfect, but still useful. Older videos are a big hit or miss.
@@LadyGameshine She has explained multiple times, even in this video, the problems with her old videos. So she should consider making new videos now that she knows more about the field, and knows the common issues with training videos.
Hi teacher, I don't know if this is the place to pose questions but I would like to know if you have any video about this that you could point me to: When I practice, since I usually speak really quietly i have trouble holding enough air force to produce an acute noise that doesn't break, should i forget about the air and focus on my glottal muscles or should I work on both?
Experiment with speaking from your diaphragm, you might be putting too much emphasis on the muscles in your throat/head. They should all work together and when you speak it should feel very clear, and concise with no strain. Maybe when you start out it will feel like flexing the diaphragm, don't take that as a rule.
Voice training is going to be very fluid and you should focus less on the muscles youre using and more on the sound youre producing.
@@bummedmachinist7483 Oh, I started using my diafragm when singing in the morning, and I can feel it's like breathing, it happens naturally but the moment I notice I am using it it feels forced, but I notice it cause I worry about accidentaly not using it, exactly as you described. Guess the articulatory phase should be entirely on the background.
Thank you, kind stranger, hope your day goes your way.
I fully understand that you can't go into detail on a such complex topic and it's hard to give good answers to just comments without meeting these people in real life. But it's still slightly frustrating when the answer to "I've tried your tips and I'm straining my voice" is "then you're just doing it wrong, bye!" (:
i dont think that was said or implied ever? the main point is - doing little “exercises” or “tips” arent how you drive to your goal. voice is dynamic and the ability to dynamically react to what you hear is key. there are tons of ways a person can strain or misuse the voice and they sound a little different.
- issues of strain in onset
- misbalanced weight / pitch
- constriction
- jaw tension
- extrinsic facial tension
- tongue tension
- etc
so yea, its a lot. in order to really give meaningful feedback to someone experiencing strain, i need to be able to hear. the ear is the guide in all of these things. it's not about being in person with an individual, just audible. there is a lot of content on this channel and the patreon that discusses this topic in various ways and with audio. main thing is you need to recognize perceivable strain as one of the most important types of feedback - they are large caution signs that signal something needs to change.
“doing it right” and “doing it wrong” arent really useful frames i try to promote. they are primarily value judgements. we want to nurture and develop stronger qualitative hearing.
@@TransVoiceLessons I think it's the way the video is laid out that was confusing to me at first.
Rewatching the answer to the question, after watching the full video, gives a much clearer image. It makes much more sense now.
ahh ill let my editor know! seems like good feedback
Hi Z!
I'm 16 and MTF. I need to make my voice feminine but although my voice is not that deep, i can't go high in notes and even if i can handle pitch control, when i change my vocal weight my voice sounds like a door creeking. Is my note range the reason for this? Or do i just lack practice? If it is the reason, what do you suggest that i should do? Increase my range and then do trans training or do them both at the same time?
Try using mixed voice
I remeber chatch my self talking femine. But in happens only with someone i trust and may say like anything. Than after that comes my voice only closer to what i like. I do not look like a girl. And so i fear creazy doing it like normaly everywhere... throw my own training i met so much bullying. I wish people was understand able as you talk here.
First time noticing those spicy microtones in the transition 🔥
babe wake up, new TVL video dropped
Wake up, babe! New Transvoicelessons video just dropped!
You become a better musician by learning a whole song rather than one motif is what I took away from this
you are my darling , you are my sweet heart ♥ of voice lessons ..
Cute voice isnt a destination its a journey!
What do you have to work on. You're drop dead gorgeous. I believe you've won the passing battle
I'm fast as fuck boi
You know how it's sorta a thing that people with ADHD look up productivity tips and see all these tips clearly meant for neurotypical people, try them, fail, and feel like a failure because they are told "you should be able to do this", yet can't to save their lives?
I feel that way with so many voice tips and even the tips in this video. Like they are targeted towards neurotypical people and that's why I keep on failing at them despite being told "you should be able to do this stuff".
I best follow rigid, clear instructions, I'm not creative, I'm not good with experimenting, I can't mimic (like you state that we all did as kids but it took me a while to talk as a kid and I had to see a speech therapist too)
I don't even know where else I'm going with this comment tbh. It's been a year of voice training for me and while I have a voice *closer to* feminine than when I started, its still so far off. I feel like I make progress, then go backwards, then make progress again, then backwards, over and over. I *had* to brute force to get to where I am now, because I can't mimic. I can only mess around and try to make my voice slightly better over time. But I've hit a wall.
I'm missing some pretty important quality/qualities to my voice and I can't figure out what. I still think its my resonance as I still struggle with all the larynx raising exercises I find.
I wish I felt like the top comment, like Im winning, but I don't. Everything is a struggle and I just feel like there is something fundamentally wrong with me.
Sorry, I definitely understand the struggle. I am not neurotypical. I was diagnosed with ADHD at age 12 and have been primarily non functional most of my life outside of music and sound so I definitely relate to looking up productivity tips that I couldn't apply. The advice I'm giving in this video isn't for neurotypicals or non however, it's universal voice learning advice that leverages how speech development works. Everyone is different. If you had difficulties in speech acquisition earlier on, you should be patient with yourself an expect the process to be a bit more of a grind. That doesn't mean you can't achieve your goal.
Ultimately these are skills that we can develop more as we try to mimic, play, explore, and interact with our voice. The format of this content (a video where someone is talking) may be a bad container for your neurodivergence (it is for my ADHD, I can't learn from videos). Definitely nothing wrong with you, it sounds like you've been making reasonable progress. The journey takes time. My timeline took well over a year before I had something I liked. Nothing is broken with you~!
It's always about a weird trick...
Once you are capable of performing that weird trick.
they key is that its not about any trick. its about a process and state of dynamic interaction with your voice.
U didnt answer me in the last video , _ ,
Your face in the thumbnails I can’t breathe
>i have to actually talk to voice train
fuck
Is it bad that I use this channel to help work on my voice acting?
4:48 Love those fake clickbaity images you made - hilarious!
After 2.5 years of training I gave up, no idea how you get your voices, which one you are happy with and sound natural without being recognized as trans. I hate using my trans voice, almost more than my pre-voice. It's desperate, the voice I feel doesn't match the voice I'm creating and I don't know how to solve this dysphoria. Maybe one should also be honest and say that it is not possible for everyone to get a beautiful voice, after all, according to my speech therapist, I'm 80% further than the other students, but she doesn't know how she can help me either and told me maybe I should go to another speech therapist. Written with tears in my eyes.
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Im sorry
But i m hearing
"You should not be horse"
And i am dying
If I was so good at learning voice as a child, why did I need 3 years of speech therapy to partially get rid of my lisp?
The accidental acquisition of a lisp is an extremely minor tuning issue relative to the massive undertaking it is to learn to speak an entire language. This is like saying, "If I am so good at gymnastics, how come I got a 97% instead of a 100%?" or "If I am so fluent at English, why do I still misspell some words?" You still finished the marathon. You are indeed very good at learning voice. Lisps can also form for reasons which are unrelated to an individuals "ability" of voice learning. For example, if someone grows up in a household where the parents phonemically produce an /s/ in very different ways, the ear will then categorize these together a bit and widen the "acceptable" range to form the sound around - thus potentially producing what is later seen as a speech idiosyncrasy. Whether these need to be "fixed" is entirely dependent on the individual as they don't represent "broken" aspects of speech - just idiosyncratic movements.
@@TransVoiceLessons nobody else in my family had a lisp.
Honestly, I forgot I was even subscribed to this channel. You make everything sound so easy, but I don't have any clue how to make my vocal anatomy do the things you describe. Every video I've watched, I wound up crying after
is the intro out of tune after the first few notes?
you are beautiful
What was she cooking? 🤔
So someone just came out as a trans man to me today, so this is some weird coincidental mind f***.
It also makes me wonder if there's any guides for ftm people before they start HRT (or if they choose not to)?
i need a boyfriend so i can feel safe and relax lol (pro tip)
🤦 "promo sm"
I know I'm so annoying but please please don't forget about my scholarship 🥹🫣