Amp Research Power Steps PROBLEMS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2019
- Amp Research Power Steps... what can I say? You love them and you hate them, all at the same time! This is hopefully the culmination of a year long saga with the passenger side power running board on my 2010 Tundra. At times, the board deploys fine, but it won’t go back up. I started by taking the motor apart, and found the guts/grease to be all waxy and solid. I cleaned it all up thinking THAT WAS THE PROBLEM, and after I reassembled the motor and packed it full of new grease, things seems good for a week or two, but then the board got stuck down AGAIN!
Next, after calling the Lind International help line (they make the power steps), that guy told me to stop using WD-40 to lubricate the hinge/linkages. He told me to pressure wash the linkages, let them dry, and then only apply silicone lube. I did that, and it worked for about two weeks. Then, after another call to the help line, it was suggested that I swap sides. I did that. I swapped the motor and gearbox from the driver’s side to the passenger side, and the passenger side still stays down on occasion. Uuuughhh! Finally, today and yesterday, I removed everything, and cleaned up all the parts on the passenger side. I had seen a forum posting about adding a small shim between the motor linkage bracket and the truck for linkage alignment. Turns out, I had to do that. Fingers crossed, it works this time! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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This is the best video on actual working on these that I have seen so far. Great job!
Fellow Traveler in CO with issues as well with these running boards. Heard BT on your stereo the whole time! Thanks for making the video, I suspect with stationary boards you have more time on your hands.
Great job thank you
Great job! I’m looking to do some preventative maintenance on mine and need to uninstall the boards so I can do what you did, as far as cleaning them and checking for obvious issues or damage.
Use silicone lubricant... do not use wd40
Great video
I have these on my Jeep. It is very flaky. This video made a few things clear. I hope you make a video where you test the electronics (controller, motor) and show the voltages required for proper operation.
Thanks for watching. I took these power step running boards off of my truck. Sadly, there won’t be another video about them. Good luck with yours.
Nice video and Great Taste of Music !!! Heart Breaker by Led Zeppelin!!!
Just purchased a truck and the driver side one doesn't work. Stuck in up position. Passenger side works fine. Might follow same steps and see if I can get it to work. Great video
I've had numerous issues with the driver side step. It will come out and then go right back in. Of course it never happens when I take the truck back to the dealership. I love them, I hate them 😃
Worse investment I ever made for my cummins. Horrible . Thanks for video
You speak the truth.
Driver side step stoped working wouldn’t go to the up position. After watching your video pulled the motor and it looks like the motor has twisted steel that goes into gear box which was frayed. Does the motor and gear box come as one. Any advice would be awesome. Thank you
I’d check out this site... www.electricstep.com/AMP-Research/pc/AMP-Research-Replacement-Motor-20-03289-90-BR-P1-05820-01-BR-Amp-Research-Certified-Replacement-Part-p583.htm
Be sure to call before ordering any parts. Their techs are great and they will help you buy only what you need. If you just need the motor, they may be able to tell you how to order just the motor. Can I ask... if you removed the motor and gear box, did you test the range of motion on your linkages? Did everything fall down freely after you pushed it up by hand and let it drop?
This is why I'm sticking to my fixed side steps. Don't want the headaches.
You are correct stya away and buy fixed boards use your extra cash for a beer!
I have been watching videos and reading in preparation to my install. It seems people are having issues with corrosion of the motor connection. Is there a seal between the linkage, motor, and cover? If not do you think one could be added or a gasket maker be used?
I can’t say for sure that a seal would help. In my opinion, the design flaw is that the “brain” is too sensitive to any resistance. Resistance comes with the slight misalignment of the hinges. They did release a newer model that has a long strip that mounts under the vehicle. That strip contains the locked in hinges and running boards. I can’t remember what they call it. …XL, maybe? Anyway, that newer model seems like their attempt to solve the misalignment problems that come with the first generation. Or, they need to modify the tolerances in the brain so it can fully operate the motor unless the resistance is equal to the weight of a person’s leg/foot.
Thanks for your video. I've had mine for a year and a half, and the driver side started getting stuck halfway up today. I loosened the steps thinking it was binding, but it wasn't. So I pulled the motor/gearbox assembly off and tried it, and the motor seemed to run through a full cycle just fine, and the steps seemed to go all the way up and down fine. I put the motor back on and everything is working again. I'm not sure what was causing it to get stuck
Hey. Thanks for the comment. It’s the limiter circuit in the brain. Once it senses any resistance at all, it stops. I finally pulled my boards off completely and replaced them with good old stationary boards. I guess it’s cool that the little LED lights illuminate my stationary boards. I went through so much and tried so many different things, including shimming they hinges, like I show in this video. I’M DONE. hope yours keeps working. Mine didn’t. Take care.
Phil Freeman here we go I just found out today one side didn’t go up all the way . It went up 70% but not all the way so should I follow this video to fix it?
Thanks
@@june1909 I pulled the motor off and let it run through a few cycles without the step connected and i couldn't see anything wrong. With the motor detached the step also moved freely. When I put it back together it worked again and has been working ever since. I'm not sure what the problem was. Maybe the gear was just getting bound on something. I had to break the little clips that attach the plastic motor cover, and I used zip ties to re-attach it (like in the video). So if you do pull your motor off, just make sure you have some zip ties or something to reattach the motor cover.
Have a 2014 Jeep JK installed these in 2018. fast forward...always a problem sticking up or down. they always need a boost to get them up. I have taken them off multiple times just like the video. Also took them to 2 certified installers in Houston. They want to replace the motors etc. Last visit they called AMPs for replacement parts and were told to just spend another $1800 for new ones It would be cheaper. lol I highly do nopt recommend these at all unless you just gargae or have a show vehicle. Biggest pain in my ARSH. Cleaned a dozen times watched every video used every cleaner and any slightest flea pressure of resistance they freeze. Nothing wrong with motor just poor design at a REAL high cost. If you have them good luck if you own a JEEP STAY AWAY! Merry Christmas kolt 123 Houston TX
@@Kolt123ful Have you tried spraying silicone lube/wd-40 on the hinge pins?
Your video was helpful with the disassembly. I am having issues with one not opening at all. I hear a sound but nothing happens. Any idea?
I wish could help. I finally replaced mine with stationary running boards. Old school, and no more problems! good luck.
Hi from Australia ! I have been doing research as my boards would intermittently stop working and I have found in a lot of cases it is a faulty module and they offer a replacement plug and play that seems to have fixed it for most people
@tonywebbywebb how do you order that part Sir? One of my boards are stuck in and drives me crazy! Any pointers would be appreciated
@@ArloCaneCorso same problem I'm having..just bought a truck and the driver side is stuck. Passenger side works fine
Same issue here! Driver side is going up super slow.
I just installed mines and they won't go up at all I can hear the motor when I open and close the driver/passenger door can anybody help me solve this problem
You could have used some Chev starter shims instead of fighting those washers
Mine are making a loud noise when going back up on drivers side. Anything I can do?
Only use silicone lubricant spray…. Not wd-40. Good luck.
My AMP Powersteps were put on in 2008. I have disassembled the gear box and lubricate it annually. It is now 2021 and for some reason, they will only work when the truck is running. If you turn the truck off before you open the door, they won't deploy. I am still trying to figure out what is wrong.
That sounds like an electrical problem. Have you made any electrical changes or installed any other aftermarket parts to the truck lately? I would’ve said your idler and motor linkage/hinges may have been binding slightly, and that can create just enough resistance in the motor for the sensor to kick in and block it from operating, but the fact that you said it works fine with the engine running discounts that idea. It sucks that this awesome set of power steps seems to have a limited lifespan. I actually already completely removed mine and installed old fashioned stationary running boards/steps. I couldn’t take it anymore! Lol. Good luck to you.
Could possibly be the additional voltage (14 volts) to the battery/motor while running giving it the extra power. Also meaning that there is a binding problem still. You might try it with a good battery charger connected to the battery and see if it will work without the engine running. This could also confirm it being mechanical not electrical. Just sumpin to try. Oh and BTW good find on the misalignment BB.
@@cjordannd If your indicating that the system runs off a separate battery other then the vehicle, I am not aware of this and that could be the issue; however, the connection runs to my two 12v batteries I have in the truck. They sometimes deploy as I am driving and sometimes when the truck isn’t even running and at both times, the doors are never opened. I am no engineer nor am I a mechanic. Thank you for your post and if I ever figure this out, perhaps I’ll be smart enough to record the steps that enable success.
@@rksmith5273 Most alternators supply 14 volts to the battery. That extra boost could give the drive motor what it needs to overcome the binding. However your latest comment leads me to beleive that Black Bart is correct in saying it is electrical. Being that it is intermittent leads me to blame the controller. This is the only way to get a signal to the motor. If your cabin lights are not cycling along with the running board operation it indicates a feed power short in the controller. Just a fairly decent guess and the exact problem I had and fixed. Hope this helps.
Mine just stopped working like there’s no power to it. Got off of work they worked fine. Drove home went to park opened the door and they just don’t deploy anymore. Help!
I fought that same problem for months. I finally decided to remove the boards and swap them out for old fashioned NON movable boards. One nice thing is the little LED lights still illuminate two spots on the old fashioned boards. Good luck with yours.
Mine are down tundra driver side...the motor humms but move. Trouble shoot guide said motor clutch so lets get down and see.
I finally took my powered running boards off my truck altogether and replaced them with stationary boards. I just got sick of messing with the amp research product getting stuck in the down position. What happened with yours?
@@TheBartmobile I have not read all of the comments but I found mine to be the control module. This is especially true for older vehicles like ours (which aint really that old). Around $93 plus tax on eBay.
The amount of patience this takes to do and film at the same time 😟
I bought mine used and the front arm had never retracted up into the truck it always stays limp on both sides of the truck. The rear arms on both sides always retract however. Any ideas?
Some other people have commented here that the older brain doesn’t have the right tolerances needed to move the steps when resistance is sensed. I can’t comment on that. I’ve replaced these power steps with stationary steps. Good luck with yours. …and yes…. It was a pain to film all of this while trying to fix it. Lol. Thanks for watching.
Itll be a yearly thing
This kit is like dating a high maintenance chick..
Super high maintenance but it looks good for show.
The dealer like installing these coz they know you will be back every year for bj..
Good informative video
Im lost, had them on a week, worked awesome! This morning noticed they were down. Opened the door, shut it and they went back up. Seconds later back down. Open driver door. The passenger side goes back up. After they are down, i hit the lock on key fob and back up they go. Ignition on they seem to stay up. I expected more for a $1500 item! So frustrated.
Use penatrant and dw 40 to free them up. Clean with wire brush first. The hinges are binding becuase they are full of dirt and rust. They need to be maintained yearly.
This actually sounds like a wiring issue
@@bmerigan Yeah I agree you might want to make sure that you tied into the correct wire and have good connections under the dash and on the control module. And believe me these can be very very frustrating. Not to mention that there always is the possibility that the control module was bad to start with. Stranger things have happened.
Can you fix mine?
I couldn’t even fix my own! Lol. I eventually removed them from my truck and “upgraded” to good old stationary running boards. Good luck to you.
All I did was hit all the hinges with a wire brush and penatrant. Soak, help the board up if necessary. Then hit with dw 40, work hinges until step works properly. When they work again wipe down access and hit hinges lithium lubricant. Like new, repeat every fall before salt season.
@@TheBartmobile I find that stationary running boards help guard against door dings. Especially with shorter vehicles.