This video will teach you How To Play The Watcher
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I feel like (so long as both sides want to, of course) this might be a perfect co-op to do with JoCat. If he wants some tips on how to play the Watcher, you tutoring him would both give us another wonderful collaboration with you two, and it would also be helpful for continuing education, as it were. You both play so well off each other, and it would almost certainly lead to different situations where you'd make different decisions, he may ask you questions that some of us would like answered real-time, etc.
this is a great idea!! i learned a lot from the jocat collabs!
Hmm, speaking of co-op, I wonder if there could be some sort of like, challenge where they could both play in an alternating fashion without communicating...how that would work though, idk.
Even something as simple as you just talking to the camera about certain general strategies would be great. I always find them more informative than trying to follow a run! You’ll never be able to replicate the same run twice, but general advice is eternally useful
every time he attempted to say "prostrate", he said "prostate" instead, and I lost my shit laughing
I'm still not sure if he's memeing or just doesn't know how to pronounce it.
"i really like the prostate upgrade"
need to find my uh, prostate...
Wait it is called prostRate???
It has to be a gag, he said it SO MANY TIMES
What I learned from this video is -that Claw is unironically amazing on Watcher- how to think about building a Divinity deck. It's one of the archetypes I haven't experimented with before, so it's very cool to see it in action.
Day 171 of coming from Twitch just to drop a like and comment for my boy Andrew. These runs are gold tier.
I wasn’t aware that I needed Claw as The Watcher. Thanks for the guide Frost!
Honestly even as a player with ~300 hours and all characters on a20, i still love the educational content, its simultaneously always a learning experience, and just really satisfying to watch someone so high level think out loud about what makes you do x instead of y
That was an amazing run, it was so fun.
Buuuut, for the purposes of the video, i would like to see another run dedicated to a more common, wrath / calm build. I got to ascencion 20 mostly with mantra builds, but the wrath / calm builds easily blows up in my face, so I would like to see some tips there o:
As a disclaimer, I’m not A20 yet, but what I do know well enough to talk about is the general feel of Stance Dance decks, and an appreciation of how hard it is to actually assemble.
First and foremost: this is a deck that can go infinite under the right circumstances, with insurance plans for Heart and Time Eater with Mental Fort and Talk to the Hand. You can sometimes even go infinite with the starter deck, Rushdown, and some removes, as long as you pick up Violet Lotus from the boss relics. It is a deck worth forcing in Act 1.
However, despite being StS’ easiest infinite to achieve (only have Eruption+ and a 1 mana Calm effect in the deck with Rushdown), unless you have been blessed by RNGesus into almost a 5 card deck, don’t push your luck. Watcher does have a nearly free Act 1, but everything else hurts when you are still trying to push with a smaller starting deck, one part of the infinite, and nothing else going for you. You *will* get rolled by Collector if all you have is decent burst damage.
So with that said, the core part of a good Angry/Calm run is playing the leanest deck you can. Pandora’s Box is a game winner, or at least a bunch of removes at once. Empty Cage often feels better than energy relics. Tiny House is not horrible, because it gives money for removes. That is how hungry for card removal the playstyle can get at a high level. You grab one good damage card, whatever is part of the infinite, and skip anything in Act 1 that does not solve Elites or Bosses.
When you wake up from your caveman haze after the Act 1 boss, ask yourself “can my deck infinite?” There’s more than one, and even a few off in Divinity territory (Sanctity and Prostrate loops). If your deck is below 8 cards that aren’t Powers or Exhaust, and you have found 2 parts of an infinite, keep pushing. If your deck is above 10 permanent cards, but has everything to go infinite in there, keep pushing. If these aren’t the case, start taking cards again, but mostly keep it to raw damage, card filtering, and at least 2 copies of Rushdown (they are great cards anyway, appear in shops regularly, some infinites can only work with 2 of them up, and just having two can solve the card draw part of going infinite by themselves).
In any case, you want to build a deck that can go Wrath any turn it wants, and Calm (or Neutral) any turn it wants. Worst case scenario, you go back to building Divinity with a small deck.
Gonna bring this up again since it demands to be spammed. Andrew needs to do a run. He's edited so many videos, but in all this time has he learned how to slay the spire?
Personally, the watcher is my lowest ascension character (20/20/17/15), and it's sometimes a struggle to figure out how to pilot decks. I've watched your content for a long time, and I've learned a lot about the philosophy of this game and what to be thinking about.
Lmao loser, watcher is my highest 2/2/2/3
Dude me too, i start thinking "oh yes this card is a good combo with my deck" and i end with to much cards and 0 combo :v
The watcher is hard for me :c
My personal way of avoiding this is making sure that whenever I go up an Ascension on a character, I catch up to that Ascension with the other three. Just recently I caught my Watcher up with the others so I'm at Asc15 on all of them, sadly the run died on the Heart due to some poor decision making on the 3rd boss and the pre-Heart Elite, but hey, another Asc lvl is an Asc lvl 😅
Hey Andrew, I only recently realized that you used to edit for Magikarpusedfly years ago. I just wanted to say that you're editing was always hilarious and you made a huge part of my childhood.
As a new player, I find that the Defect is much easier to play and understand. On my first few runs, I already got to ascension 2 on the defect. Meanwhile, I've had like over 20+ runs on the Watcher and have yet to reach even ascension 1. I just find her stupidly complex because of the amount of different mechanics she has. Whenever I try to pivot her to a certain playstyle (like focusing on scry, or stances, or marks), the RNG almost always screw my runs.
ok well one piece of really good advice is to NEVER take marks. Much like the Ironclad's clash, it just doesn't fit into any build and if you can actually get it to work: your run will already be in a position to do other forms of damage to a much more absurd degree
Can anyone confirm whether he’s calling “Prostrate” “Prostate” on purpose? I think he likely is, but he’s so committed to it I can’t tell for sure.
Never noticed how much banter gets cut out from these runs till I started following the streams themselves. Love to Andrew for how much he does.
day 118 of asking frost to play chess
Day 24 of liking all comments of people asking frost to play chess
I would love some more general explanation during videos. I don't usually watch your STS content because I can't follow anything that's going on. Everything goes too fast and I don't have an opportunity to figure out why you do things the way you did. It means that I can't appreciate the meme runs or modded content as much because I don't really get the game. I love your peglin content because it's easier for me to follow.
Honestly as someone who is still learning the game I think the best thing you can do is not explain in depth every single mechanic (once you've seen one run like that you've seen them all), but instead just elaborate a little bit more on what's going through your head when you see a choice of cards/relics, what synergies you are looking out for, etc.
Step one: download the mod that adds more mark cards
Step two: play mark cards
Step three: win
God yes, I fucking love these overexplained type videos, I really want to improve at STS and these do that while also being entertaining
I will be watching this video
i'd played around 16ish hours of slay the spire before finding your channel last year, and had never beaten a run. after watching your videos (especially the how to play the defect) video, i managed to beat one w/ each character and have been working my way up the ascensions. honestly, i love videos like this cause you still get to see a pretty cool run and feel like you can apply it to casual play
Goes to learn how to play Watcher, literally builds a deck that ignores the main mechanic of the Watcher 😂
Unironically the Darkling tidbit was a fun little nifty fun fact. Thank you, Frost, for always educating us. In turn, I hope our brave marine biologists continue to educate you.
So I haven't finished the video. Just started. But I gotta say, starting a run that just gives +1 energy and using that to teach seems like you should reset because that seems(to a new player) a stupid op move that just makes the entire run so much easier lol
Yes, I learned I need to take beam cell in the watcher
Im ngl this vid kinda helped. Definitely didnt teach me how to play watcher lol. Great video tho was entertaining
How to play watcher: get gud relics
Yeah, I got lost about halfway through act two when you were using meditate to set up kill turns and cycled through the entire deck. Idk, the character is just too big brain for me when I just like to play Ironclad with big numbers.
I think Watcher is the epitome of hard to learn, easy to master at this point. I know this didn't really end up as a real guide, but damn, the scrying and the meditating is just what throws me off.
I guess the principles for a divinity deck as outlined in this video are -
- Keep deck as small as possible
- Get 3 divinity cards
- Get damage
- Get scry/draw
- 1 Meditate
Chase cards are then retain cost reduction, block on scry, and Spirit Shield.
It's funny because while I'm really bad at the Watcher, what I like about her is the retain synergies and card creation. Basically playing her like a slow Defect power deck, but retained cards. It's just not what makes her broken, apparently.
i honestly cant tell if he thinks it is prostate or the joke has just become the default now?
Hey Frost, nasty deck there. In terms of playing the Watcher though, could you do a run where you focus on going in and out of Wrath and Calm? I’d love to see how you go about a Watcher run without Mantra and without going for an infinite
Straight up said prostate 12 times in 45 seconds and the word is prostrate. 😅 Very, very different meanings, sir!
Okay, I can't take it anymore. Wayyyy too much prostate talk sorry. Lmao
LOVE this version of Frost. I normally watch on my TV, logged in on my PC so I could leave a comment for this. Great content, love hearing you explain your thought process. The divinity run was cool, would love another more standard calm/wrath run. Please keep doing these, I LOVE the combo of educational content and pure silliness. I will watch them all!
Entertaining but I didn't learn shit. Do over?
I would genuinely love if he did a series breaking down the charecter in an informative way as he does runs. Would be cool to see!
Watching you play made me significantly better at STS. Thanks dude
You thought this was a mantra deck, but it was actually a claw deck.
Does he know it's pronounced prost-RATE and not prost-ATE? Made me laugh every time.
FINALLY - CLAW IS LAW - PEGLIN POGLIN
Instructions unclear: all I've learned is that I should always take Prismatic Shard so that I can get Claw.
I dare you to do an over explained extravaganza: Where you you would play and over explain all the characters in one stream and keep the momentum…The ultimate Slay the Spire tutorial.
I just got Eternal One after 1,142 hours in slay the spire. The last achievement was ascend 20, which I got with watcher. Your guide helped a lot, but the run where I took claw with prismatic shard didn't really work out for me. Maybe it was the snecko eye I got from the boss swap. My win was a pandoras box boss swap with a mostly finished rushdown infinite. It just needed the rushdown and a few removes. Anyways thanks for explaining the watcher. It actually helped a lot, and I probably would have won the prismatic snecko run if I hadn't taken claw as a meme.
Also meditate is probably the card that has gone up the most in my mental evaluation. Never used to take it. Now I almost always pick it.
Things i learned:
Entering divinity gives 3 energy. (i thought it was double energy before)
Ectoplasm cannot drop from act 2 boss.
Chat won that one time.
Acenders' bane stays around if its a Meditate target.
STREAMERS NEVER USE POTIONS!
Claw is the best Watcher card.
Good video honestly I’m bad at watcher
Frost laughs like the Merchant
I don't understand why people are saying the watcher is the easiest. I beat the game with the first 3 characters in under 4 hours total. I've been trying to beat the watcher for over 40 hours, and NONE of the strategy videos are helpful. They're all like "this is easy!" While only describing the run They're on, no general strategy. They also all proceed to (without fail) get insanely better luck than ANY of my runs with this character in the past 40 hrs. RNG in this game is terribly inconsistent, how can anyone say a character is easier? You can NEVER plan for anything in my experience, because as soon as you do, everything falls apart, and you get nothing to help your deck.
I’ve beat 1 run with the Ironclad after 12 tries.
The silent and the defect are difficult for me atm.
The watcher I won within 3 tries.
Had an insane build with the 0 cost deal 4(6 when upgraded) and lots of switch stance related cards, and a bunch of draw. Wiped act 2 boss in 3 turns. Absolutely hands down my favorite class.
Holy shit. I’m not done watching, but no wonder I hated the Watcher. I always played it hella defensively, going for +5 calm, +4 switch stances, and then still wondering why I was dying… because I’m taking all the debuffs and the things aren’t dead, LOL. A lot better to take some chip damage earlier on to burst them down, wow.
never clicked this fast before
dude. holy fuck. i haven't watched this guy since magikarpusedfly stopped posting actual champion spotlights. ofcourse within 2 minutes of watching this i realise how HUGE mistake that was since this guy is still so fucking funny just while being himself. love you frost.
As someone who has never touched Slay the Spire, I knew what it was but I've only ever watched your STS content, idk what the hecc anything does lol. the explanations makes it so much more enjoyable to watch :D
As old player, who aint played all the way to a20, i just dont like her kit and design, probably, when she were realized she were even more imbalance than Defect, while Silent and Ironclad were such good charracters.Silent hadded poison and shivs which is seems so cool, while also has discard "deck" and other stuff, iron too have some interesting builds, and yet i am cant see something that cool in watcher, i didnt play enough on her, and probably that the biggest reasone why i think she seems kinda boring, at start i hated Defect too, because of his easy decks like just use insane amount of powers and gain 999 block every turn, but with time i get understanding fun parts like Claws and Blizzard decks. I still just kinda hate watcher because she feels like mary sue.
I think breaking kayfabe a little bit more might be correct for this kind of content? E.g. towards the end of act 1 where you discarded a power pot for the explosive pot in case of an AoE fight, chat interrupted you with the "but chat won yesterday" trigger and you were sarcastic at them about it. If you finished that fight & before the reward screen said "but yeah I was thinking a mob fight would suck because I don't have aoe cards so I wanted the explosive pot and was instantly rewarded :D" then it would help the viewer understand what the correct choices are - from what you were saying, it sounded like you made the wrong decision.
Well I only just started playing The Watcher and I'm failing pretty hard. After this video I learned that picking cards that work well together is actually good.
Honestly though watching someone who's great at the game playing makes it easier to see the synergies.
55:20 Prayer Wheel in the last floor of Act 3? What a useless relic! Frost, agreed that something should be done. That's what modders are for.
Any modders in the chat? Can you make a mod to fix the base relic properties so that useless relics aren't found late into Act 3? That'd be cool.
Day 37 of asking Frost Prime to read me Goodnight Moon.
Frost, will you read me goodnight moon, please?
Also, great video I found it super helpful!
I love the information... but at the same time.... SCAM. Plays watcher REMOVES both stances.
At 31:00, was it a misplay to not go ahead and Prostrate to block a little additional damage, or am I overlooking something?
Edit: I was in fact overlooking something, I didn't remember that Meditate ends your turn.
Had fun last time playing The Watcher. Found three potions, which duplicate the effect of the card you are playing next and went to face the last boss.
Used those duplication potions to Wreath of Flame and then in Wrath mode used Tantrum+ with it.
On golden idol I always take the curse because it's not a terrible curse card. If it was Normality I would agree taking the curse is cringe, but an injury is totally chill, you can usually spare a remove on watcher because of the lower card pool anyway.
I honestly feel like no watcher run can be roo memey to learn from. Like, all watcher runs are kinda memey. The whole point of the character is pretty much "if you know deckbuilding principles, play watcher and go wild".
21:38 would battle hymn not be good since you'd be stacking more cards? I thought having a couple smites + divinity would be nice. I'm brand new to the game btw.
Yo, this is some F-nig good content, love this, but I think if u want to do smth informative u should do it 2, maybe 3 times according to how u give ur content to ppl, again u give it very pog, but for understanding u should show it 1 maybe 2 times more
Thank you so much for this Frost. I've been feeling kinda weak in my Watcher games recently, but this video gave me some newfound inspiration (take Claw)
It finally happened!!! It took several weeks but I finally got my first clear of the spire! With the silent my favorite character so far
All I came for was some tips on playing watcher and instead I found one of the funniest human beings. 10/10 would stumble upon again
As a beginner, I find it hard to follow the context when I dont know what most of the cards/relics do. Like when you talk alot about the goo relic after the act1 boss. But I dont know what the relic does.
I have literally 100%-ed the game and I only just this day learned that both the Defect and the Watcher have a dumpy that won't quit. Thanks for the informative video, Frost!
"Don't worry as much about your early game."
Well, when I play the Watcher, that's all of the game...
I think you may need to do another video. Very entertaining and informative, but I feel like this is not your 'typical' watcher run.
This was supposed to be an informative run, but in reality everything good enough evovle into a claw deck. So it is both scam and blessed at the same time
lol ive watched a lot of your videos recently but i gotta say i dont know if i can anymore after seeing you do defend instead of 12 dmg on a 12 hp enemy so that you took 9 dmg instead of ending the fight on floor 1 lmao jk your great dude
18:45
Gaining an extra Energy on boss+elite
vs
More relic drops from elites
One of these two apparently has a downside, the other doesnt
So this isn't my first time watching this and it totally did help. I really like watcher now, she's my second best next to ironclad
I’ve put around 1.5k hours into Slay the Spire and I still hesitate to pick Watcher. I have no idea why.
comment a year after on why the ascenders bain was retained. The card effecting ascenders bain states "Retain them" not these cards gain regain so you get targeted with the effect to retain these cards which might be a higher priority than ethereal... or it was a bug
pros-TRAY-te is lying stretched out on the ground with one's face; PROS-tate is your g-spot
I generally understand how to play the watcher.
I just find watching her is significantly less fun than the other characters.
The way I 'learnt' was looking at Merl's Watcher tier list and then forcing a rush down infinite. Suddenly gave me a more intuitive sense of how bullshit the watcher's decks are meant to be.
Bro I took a gummy while watching this run and it kicked in as the deck became bonkers. That was a weird feeling.
Hey Frost I was wondering why you did not upgrade ragnarok? it upgrades for a lot of damage escipally in divinty decks.
He called the homie! Why are we not really really excited about this God gamer's intuition!?!
I really learnt quite a bit about how to play the watcher. It was probably my least favourite character until now, but i really want to start a run with her now
Modthespire changed retain to override ethereal when it's actually on the card; it's not like that without mods.
I think this is the best slay the spire lesson, make your deck so strong you can add stupid fun cards into it late game.
Quite honestly the best video you uploaded in a long time. That saying I really enjoy you usuall content but this was a breath of fresh air.
Pelets are my snecko when I play watcher. I always pick them in hopes of finding fasting
Frost I want you to know that google now thinks I want arugula related recipes because of you.
Watcher is the best character for minimalist runs (thanks to pressure point, wrath becomes pointless)
I have over 100 hours on Steam and on Switch combined, and I am brain dead when it comes to the Watcher.
Am I just sleep deprived or does he sound like he's talking at 1.25x speed at normal speed
played 100 hours of stp and Yesterday i started with the watcher and i'm rippin 👌
It's a fun little nifty fun fact! It's a nifty fun little fact of fun and finty! The fact is niftily fun and fact, in fact!
Watcher was my last A0 clear and my first A20 clear. It's a weird character like that.
Bro the advice in the thumbnail was all I needed got a victory? first try lol.
Dumb frost prime is dead, long live Intellectual Frost Prime! 🦀
I decided to progess every class simultaneously to reach A20 , so every class should be the same level before going forward, the first loss i had as a watcher was A18, isn't that FUCKING crazy?
I didn't even watch any TH-cam video until then and i had lost many fucking times as silent and defect, like 30 times each but watcher was just autowinnning every run and i was even playing her very very unoptimally, i think that's very Crazy.
You cannot and will not convince me that watcher is anything other than the most boring character
I DID IT 51:50 INTO THE VIDEO AND I REACHED ASCENSION ONE WITH THIS KILL BILL VIBE CHICK AFTER LIKE 20 HRS
Watcher is Wrath.
Smart man.
Keeping YT in form.
good, thank
I mean of course the Watcher doesnt care about size, she is blind 😂😂😅