Should Dauntless Devs Nerf the Silver Sword?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- It is too strong. But should it be nerfed?
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Watch, and actually listen, to 8:03 before you comment.
No, Enabling the silver sword next frostfall is not enough, it needs to be permanent if it's the best weapon in the game.
And no, they can't "just disable the silver sword in trials (and gauntlet)"
Doing so would require entirely new mechanical framework to be put in place, and is probably the most coding-intensive fix to the problem. It would take far longer to code than re-enabling the quest (best solution) or nerfing the sword.
Yeah I was about to say that as well like they could just re-enable that quest and not have it time lock
or if they bring it back it should be at least harder
I believe a mod balance and re enable the quest
Galvanized is the most op part of the silver sword i personally think nd with that I agree with the original set up I believe the 300 hp in areas is ok
I think silver sword without galvanized and maybe 200 hp while removing the silver swords bonus when bonded besides it's cells would make it less op or even use the exotic effect of it not being allowed to be bonded
If they re enable to quest in general without the rest I've mentioned i feel they would actually have to raise the exp needed as it's broken as
I grinded this sword I'm relatively new and its made everything easy
Btw love your videos they have been an amazing help hope you get the time to see and read my comment keep up the great work :)
Eh, they will just nerf it into irrelevance. The company got its money from skins and bounty tokens, they don't need to keep pandering to the folks that put in the work. They will probably throw it on the store to keep the competitive crowd happy and make some money in the process.
Really pathetic that they can't add one weapon to the game without the competitive crowd pooping themselves for needing to do a little work. No wonder this game has been so stagnant since I left in 2019. I can't say I blame the developers for not trying.
Don't nerf it.. make other people go through the same hell I went to get it.
That’s the point of only being able to level it during Frostfall. 😣
It really didn't take more than a couple hours, it wasn't that bad
@@element8569 definitely didn’t do the quest til the end
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@@element8569 what's a couple of hours? I'm pretty sure everything together was exactly 200k xp needed within just a few days at a time you're with family and usually have other stuff on your plate.
You need around 7.3 reforges. There are people that can do a reforge in like 45 minutes but that's usually not with any weapon/build.
Sure you could do this in one go but that doesn't make it any fun. It was awfully designed and at a very bad time to put a sticker on it like "you can only get it now!"
I think the questline should just be available every winter. And hopefully it will let you continue were you ended up the previous year so that even people who don't have a lot of time can eventually get it. Waiting 1 year at most shouldn't be a problem since, if you are new to the game it will probably take you a good part of the year to max out slayers path and and get all of your gear powersurged.
I love this idea. Having it there every winter would let the people that actually do trials to stay balanced but also let the more chill players like me get it maxed out for when we wanna use it.
I don't see any indication that this was a one time thing. As far as I'm aware they have the same event every year.
The thing with this video is that I can understand where you’re coming from with this, especially when you mentioned their change to the Skullforge, but at the same time I feel like you’re missing the forest for the trees. You’re viewing the Silver Sword purely through the lens of Trials leaderboards, when the vast majority of the playerbase don’t bother with it, especially since so many of the same people top the leaderboards week after week. A lot of people focus on just playing the game and don’t really care if they’re on some board off in the corner of Ramsgate for a week.
THANK YOU!!! After working so hard for this weapon I can't believe that people actually want to nerf this weapon after grinding The Silver Sword for weeks. He only cares about people who are trying to get the top spot in the Trials leaderboards most of the casual players don't care about it. It's like you said it is many of the same people on the leaderboard and I can tell you it's nothing special about it. I'm tired of Dauntless nerfing weapons and armor in this PVE game like they did chain blades (After it got reworked), Skullforge, Sword (Before it got reworked) and Discipline are some examples of them nerfing things.
Competitions need to be reasonably fair, by definition. If you have a competition in your game, you have to balance things around making that competition fair. Or do what fortnite does, and make the competitive mode have its own rules. Otherwise, it's a problem. With the silver sword being potentially meta for FB Quillshot, Charrogg, Embermane, Phaelanx, Gnasher, Quillshot, and Shrike, that's literally a third of the trials rotation. Most players will at some point care about trials for the top 100 cosmetics at least. And whether or not the vast majority of people don't interact with it is irrelevant. Most people don't play pokemon competitively, yet the entire game is balanced around competitive battling. It might not effect you personally, and you're again presenting your entirely selfish take on this issue, even when my final message of the video is "They shouldn't nerf it, they need to re-enable the quest."
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@@shadowX2121 sounds like something someone who can't do it will say. Just saying.
How is my view selfish? I’m talking about the majority of the playerbase who play the game casually. Look at what happened with games like Overwatch. Blizzard hyper focused on the competitive esports scene to the point of forcing 2-2-2 role queue, completely killing the fun people were having with the game just seeing what kind of shenaningans they could get up to by playing as 6 Torbjorn with turrets everywhere or a bunch of Genjis deflecting everything. I’m not denying a competitive aspect to Dauntless doesn’t exist l, but it alone should not be the lifeblood of the game.
The only sensible thing is to renable the questline but without the title, crown and all that. That it was event exclusive in the first place was a bad choice imo
i think the best emergency solution for this would be to disable the silver sword specifically in trails and gauntlet (as the other gamemodes are not that competiviely orientet) and do the same for future weapons of this type
An emergency solution would be something quick to code, not something that they would have to implement entirely new mechanical framework for.
@@TheMrTrails but that framework exists no? i remember them disabling bugged weapons before, though it was a general lock not a gamemode specific one
Don't nerf it... Better just make it an exotic like the twin suns or the hunger
I was thinking the same, enable the quest during the next Frostfall again, that will be good even for those who could not finish all the grinding.
Let's be fair here, the quest should be reenabled BUT the frostfall crown and extra rewards (aetherhearts, sparks, and rams) get removed but you still get the Silver Sword title and Sword. If anything about this is bad, simply add back the rams and aetherhearts. I grinded the Sword for the entirety of Frostfall and barely made it, and I'd rather have the quest reenabled with fewer rewards than have a nerfed Silver Sword
As someone with no legendary gear, is the hellion sword better than the charros sword? Or is boreus still the best? How about the savhyt cutlass?
I will never agree with a nerf to the sword. I would 100% agree to remove the exclusitivity to it and make it so everyone can get it.
Make it easier to get for all i care, but nerfing it is just adding insult to injury. It should have never being an exclusive weapon.
Sad that it will 100% be nerfed cuz its the easy thing they can do
I agree with all your points, but while re-enabling the quest is the simplest solution, I don't think it's the best for the game. I chose not to grind for the sword but re-enabling the quest just gets rid of the exclusive event feeling of the quest. I know people that come back to games during events to do limited time things. While it is creating a sense of FOMO, it adds value to those events and gives players a reason to return to the game, which Dauntless is lacking for a good amount of end game players.
Instead of removing the special feeling of the weapon, there should be others that can compete with it; so a good alternative would be to add weapons with a similar passive and unique effect (I'm guessing that's what makes it good) but with elements relating to the event they're associated with. Doing this makes it so there isn't a long wait between getting trials competitive weapons for players that weren't there and keeps the event feeling of the weapon.
Or make it an exotic like it should be...
I think they should do something for us because of how ridiculous that quest was
He is literally complaining about it being to OP the quest was nothing compared to the power of the sword
easy quest, just reforge.
@@KillerWolf1324 i understand that. I understand that i'm just saying that some of us didnt have that kind of time to do it so 200,000 xp was crazy
My idea for a fix.
Its a special... super... ultra... legendary weapon... just don't allow it to be used in trials... Or don't allow those times to be put on the leaderboards.
PS: afterthought... If they do make big changes to the silver sword I will probably NEVER trust PL as a developer from the standpoint of a consumer ever again. May sound overdramatic but they put out the rules... they put up a prize... they put forth the tasks... And to me the prize was worth the effort of grinding a solid 5 days of playing no other game than dauntless. I got the prize! WOOPIE!!!!! For then to rug pull me after I went through all of that... How will I ever trust anything they ever do again... any grind prize will look like another potential rug pull... a big middle finger after all that hard work.
I think the devs shouldn't mind making Silver Sword an all around weapon since we already have the Gifts as a massively grindable repeated seasonal event anyway. Will be greatly disappointed if they choose to even consider nerfing it, I'm quite enjoying the bi-annual meta shift and frankly I think Sword is much more deserving of this spot in the meta than the last few weapons that got powercreeped...
I have an idea, how about deactivating the silver sword and it's bind in trial only, it's the only competetive mode in Dauntless so you can still have the sword in hunts etc but disable it in trial.
its not like new players, or old players lost the top 5 because of a sword, they prob got the sword, and no one will jump from tp 50 to top 5.
The devs could maybe make it that, when new players reach a certain point like unlocking reforge or unlocking heroic frost esca, they could get the quest for a limited time. Or make it obtainable every Frostfall.
Btw I'm still waiting for a new weapon or exotic weapon.
Nerfing the silver sword is like nerfing the number of players
I hope the devs instead see the reception of the Silver Sword (and the quest) as an opportunity to add other higher-tier weapons as a reward for doing story quests related to said weapons. Give people something new to grind for, while expanding the lore.
I think 1, they re enable the silver sword quest or 2, they buff the pangar sword(but the skraev would be a huge shocker)
nah dude boreus sword is the closest competitor, pangar better for any other weapon except sword
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why they didn't add the silver sword as an exotic weapon like the Hunger. It already has a prismatic slot and other attributes that most swords do not have. You don't even have to nerf the sword to do that either.
It doesn't have a prismatic slot. It's brutality and fortitude iirc.
This. Changes. EVERYTHING!! you can't nerf the sliver sword!?! nah but fr tho yes it does have fortitude and brutality.
I'm feeling the idea of just bringing it back every Frostfall is the best idea, but just reactivating the quest makes sense to. This situation just sucks cause no matter what is done, someone's going to be mad 😅
I only was able to get it to 40 so I don't use it 🤷 it was too much of a grind for it plus I was sick. If anything no one should be complaining if it's strong, who cares leave stuff alone!!!
They just shouldn't have made the quest so time consuming and limited, while having the best sword in the game as a reward. Cause know people who don't have it find it unfair, and people who have it will be upset if it gets nerfed
I would think that after have a similar situation with the Skullforge, they would at least learn their mistakes, actual 🤡
7:21 I always wanted to forget Boreus trials existed, I am jealous that you actually did
I could see it being avaliable for everyone would be a great way to even it out and if it's stronger than intended then that wouldn't be a nurf but fixing a bug, but that being said now your falling into that destiny area where intentionally or not your baiting people to go for something that's not worthv the time. For me personally I would probably hesitate to do something like this again if it took the same amount of time just for the reward to be weakened after I got it
True!
EXACTLY!
Nobody has an unfair advantage. Every player had the exact same time to get the weapon. Some worked hard to obtain the weapon and some didn't. If you buff or nerf weapon(s) to counter this, then there will be no point in future limited time weapons.
Agreed!
I agree with your points, just adding some original, different topics to this conversation, as I believe this whole endevor is more meaningful that way.
- you say Skull Forge, but that only effected 1 Trial, while Tragic Echo dominated a large majority of the weeks and was pretty much untouched.
- we already had this same topic emerge with Alyra, but actually worse
◦ patch note: 1500 (didn't specify if surged/ unsurged)
◦ingame description: 1500/ 2000
◦actual values ingame: 750/ 1000
, and then later Ahrelia came forward that week, stating that she made a last minute change, and didn't pay attention that the ingame text was hard coded to say a certain value; they forgot to reflect the changes in the patch notes
- - which is to say, that I believe the values we ended up with ingame are more telling than the patch notes; it's easier to write some early draft for the patch notes and then forget to change that later (in this case just the patch notes, ingame description matches up).
also, you know how good the devs are at nerfing things, look at how dominant Molten Edict is, even after it recieving 2 nerfs already... unless they strip away the Boreus UE, it'll be meaningless -- there are only 2 extremes, and no happy medium to be had here in regards to the balance of SS.
I think you meant edict in your last point, not skullforge.
And it's really just the 300 hp that's the issue here, boreus UE and galvanized isn't what's making it the best. It's the extra % and uptime on revenant's damage bonus
@@TheMrTrails thanks for correcting the typo :y
make the silver sword a Urska rumor might be a good alternative
I don't have a problem with limited time weapons as long as they can't be used in dauntless trials. Seems to me the best way to keep the silver sword as a cool and prestigious weapon for those who grinded it is to keep it the same but disable it in trials.
Edit: I read the pinned comment, maybe instead they could make it an exotic so you can't bond it?
lmao, lemme guess you just dropped from the top 5 because a new player just got the silver sword...
yep i do agree with making the quest out all time (nerfing is bad option)
+ removing some prizes that comes with quest
also make it even harder to obtain like from 7 and half reforges to like +10 so players who did get it in event they get it with less reforges
so if the event comes back players can farm it with less reforges but other time of year more reforges
yeah they should increase the time it takes to get it since now they would have unlimited time to farm it and not have to do it in a week
I hope the devs keep adding more weapons like the silver sword
I dont care about trials and its stupid comparing cheats with a weapon people farmed for if they nerf the sword I uninstall the game I didnt spend my entire vacation playing this game farming just for it to become a frost sword 2.0 I could of just crafted it but you are right its not fair how some people cant use I wouldnt mind if they make the quest available in a couple of weeks
All they had to do is to make a different special effect that is a close competitor with the boreus sword. They literally made a cooy of it and added some bonus stats. That’s pretty lazy, i would say. If they can’t come up with a single effect for a single weapon, i dont know what they CAN actually come up with. They literally just signalled that they are out of ideas.
Hey what should I do I lost all of my progress in dauntless for no reason at all I play on Nintendo switch I logged in one day and I lost everything I've finally grinded out a Max Level silver sword and afterwards I lost everything all of my weapons and also purchases on my account
contact dauntless support through their website. Be sure to have your linked epic games account information available
just disable the silver sword in trials and other competitive modes. problem solved.
Edited: Read below comments. 😆
Watched past 8:03 and "I do agree" with you. I and many others grinded to get the sword to max level and now some people that didn't want it nerfed because they didn't... Sounds fair. We should have weapons that if you put in the effort are better then others. If others want to make the quest available all the time. Fine, cool with that. Let them grind for it like we did.
Champ you literally agree with me tho, I'm saying it shouldn't be nerfed 😂
😆 Not going to lie, I copied part of my argument with someone else and edited the first part... My bad, lol. You right, I was agreeing with you and didn't delete the right part before I added to it. Was trying to argue against people saying it SHOULD be nerfed. You (like me) just want the quest added back so everyone can get it. I'll take the L here... Pro tip people, re-read what you have before you post! 😆
new. few days old player here. started the game when the frostfall almost ending and this sword almost made me quit. but then i decided to give up on it and i finally get to enjoy the game.
I'm a kind of a dauntless casual here but I did silver sword and I liked it so much that I unlocked it again for my sisters account.
Yeah I grinded that thing on a basically brand new account because we never played sword on her account.
It's still pretty awesome but now to reforge the other weapons.
just able the quest for everyone, its a lore quest makes more sense than nerfing.
The skull forge helmet did become available again because I have it and I didn't play when the reforge update came out so if they did this for the sword they would then have to take back the nerf for the skull forge because then it's unfair that one limited time item got nerfed then released but another didn't get nerfed and released for free
I was basically forced to do this because I knew it had amazing value and would be the best sword in the game. Now imagine a player that didn't even think of doing the quest,having the option to do the quest when EVER he wants and me being on a time crunch with Christmas and new years,forcing myself to play and put my life aside because I know I would have a competitive disadvantage
This sword can't be given to anyone who wasn't willing to put the time in but I do think it should be given every frostfall
Watched till end.
Should just have a quest for it. Keep the grind to earn it i guess, but make it available for all to get
wouldnt it also make it unfair for the people that had to spend their entire vacation grind it? I would feel cheated if they that I think they should double the xp needed for the sword to level up so people dont just get it in a couple of days
@@gabycashy5 i mean sure do that too, but i thinks its getting kinda shit with this grindathon fomo the game wants to use for events. Granted up til now its just been cosmetics, but now its treading a tricky road with gameplay items
It would be the best option to reenable the quest so everybody can grind the sword if they wanted to. they just should never do time exclusive quests anymore (for cosmetics yes but not for actual weapons/armor)
People can wait until the next event to get it, if it was that important to them then they would have made time to get the silver sword. I was level 10 on hammer about lv 4 on everything else with no reforge. Still got it with little issue and had time for family and work.
they could ban limited time weapons from trials i guess
omg someone took your top 5 bcs of the silver sword?
@@marcosoliveira707 oh no im pretty new only started playing with only like 4 days left on the frostfall event. But i can imagine it being really bs for the people that do put their time in to push that leaderboard and maybe werent able to spent the time on the game during the event. Limited time avaible weapons should not be the best weapon it makes the playing field uneven.
no it should never get touched
edit: if they bring it back it should be harder
🤡8:03 ?
🤡 good job me
Competitive advantage, sounds like a chain blade user to me. It took competitive energy just to grind for the sword, I 100% disagree to nerfing the silver sword, nerf the c. blades sure but not you the sword, the challenge was the competitive part for attaining the special silver sword imo ⚔️
I mostly agree with your proposal @TheMrTrails, but I would like to suggest an amendment. They should either re-open the quest and, once accepted, must be completed it in a specific time frame. Or let it open without the time frame, but remove "The Silver Sword" title along with the crown. You mentioned the crown, but the title should also be removed since it's legendary.
The whole point of limited time means some people will miss out. Everyone won't get one. So in other words no more good "Limited-Time" weapons. If its good it should just be given out like a participation trophy because everyone should have one. Don't make it a "Reward" for a Grind but just make it regular additional content. If Johnny can't make Top 5 in the trial because of SS users then oh well, what does he miss out on cosmetics/bragging rights? Doesn't sound like a very big problem imo. And I'm pretty sure "limited time" means until next winter...
Sad I only have the silver sword not the LEGENDARY version (didnt have enough time and my fault for not taking themrtrails' psa about the xp sink of the quest). My take would be to disable the LSS (legendary silver sword) for trials, heck gauntlet too.
The situation’s mentioned are so niche and affect so few people in reality.
Whatever solution is chosen, even if that is to do nothing different, they shouldn’t make the players feel like they wasted their time playing their game.
I haven’t touched games like World of Warcraft with a 20 foot stick after they repeatedly made me feel this way for many many years. And it’s unfortunate because I think they might finally have a decent expansion right now, but I just don’t trust them to not waste my time .
they should actually buff a different sword
I played dauntless in the beginning when it just came out on switch for a few weeks, but i didnt really enjoy the switch way of playing. About 3 weeks ago i started again, on pc this time. Just in time for the silver sword, but i could only make it halfway through the questline, so im kinda bummed out. Hope the questline is re-enabled so i can finish it!
bruh, can't them just just straight up make it unpickable in the trials, like yep, pick ot somewhere else, in the trials, no silversword allowed
I play Warframe as well and the Dev's bring out new gear all the time most are over powered and they end up getting nerfed too. Its what they do
the grind for this sword was equal to the grind for Slayers path 2&3 ... and after all the grinding was done ... we got the "Drone" .. only to have both paths taken away and the brought Back the drone as artificer ... most people quit including myself ... completing this quest line with a new account took countless hours of grinding ... I could care less about trials ... let the devs Buf the frost wolf sword ... and watch the people at the top of the trials still be right where they are ...
I agree; eventhough I spent 34 hours grinding it.
ITS JUST TOO OP and a nerf or maybe rework would be resonable
What if they normalise the sword in trials like all the weapons and armor are so it's not at its full power in the tryhard gamemode.
They could then do this for every new weapon with a quest line so they still feel rewarding for doing the quest but don't break the game.
Probably some flaws with this idea but I figerd I'd share
I didn't fully max it out. I only got it to level eight and yet it's still far better than any of my other ice swords. I'm mostly an axe player cause I just like the style. But whenever I have to run sword for bounties or for balance when playing with freinds. I will use the hypothermica with it bonded to the silver sword. It's just too good. I agree that the only real way to fix it is to either nerf it which I would hate. Or just reactivate the quest.
Why don’t just disable the limited weapons in trials?
🤡🤡🤡🤡 Another idea would be introducing a new behemoth that drops fragments at a comparable rate required for max sword, and once those have been collected the sword can be crafted. PLUS, new content!!
🤡🤡🤡🤡 Watched past 8:03. Hear me out. When the Silver Sword was launched, we were told that it would only be acquirable and upgradable during Frostfall. We were also told that even if there are some players who couldn't finish the Silver Sword questline, that it could be finished next Frostfall, so it's a seasonal weapon that was introduced so strong that we'll never see anything like it again.
On the competitive side of things: Competing at the highest level isn't exclusively about skill, it's about knowledge. Planning which trials to pass on, which to get your 300 Dauntless tokens, and which to really go for a top 100 time is part of that knowledge. Sometimes a newer player is just going to have to settle down and wait while cells are cooking with the Middleman because they burned all of their Aetherdust. The same logic applies to the Silver Sword, in my humble opinion. As annoying as it is, sometimes you just have to wait to get the gear you need.
It's also entirely within the realm of possibility for that same player to pick up, learn, and become just as proficient with a new weapon for a weapons-based top 100 instead of trying to compete in a Swords dominant trial.
I still say they shouldn’t Nerf it I would prefer if they buffed another weapon so that it can compete obviously not the frost wolf only because then it makes even more broken and neck sonic sent especially for other weapons than just swords, but I would say then, at least make the quest available And definitely rather than the Nerf in the sword since so many people had to go through such a long process and some boo spent their entire early Christmas vacation doing this due to them not having the ability to do it super fast
i understand your point about it not being fair to new players that will start after the event already concluded but at the same time it could also be seen as a reward for their loyal playerbase that have been here a long time and were here for the event new players will still have an opportunity to get it next frostfall. maybe another solution would be to periodically make the quest available throughout the year. This quest took up alot of my precious time so the reward should be equal to the amount of effort i put in. I think the most reasonable thing to do is(I hate to say it) probably nerf the silversword and make the title and crown unavailable for everyone else even if quest comes back...i did watch to 8:03🤡🤡
TBH the devs should rework every underpowered/uninteresting weapon, but the game is almost dead so it's hard to see it happening. Let's just ride it out and enjoy while it lasts...
Personally me, just make it so SS isn't allowed in Trials. Solves all the problems then, and they don't need to mess with the balance of other weapons.
I can't believe that people are complaining about them putting in too much work and that it shouldn't be nerfed, but it was so easy to get it done in a couple hours. I really think it will need a nerf, bringing back the quest I think would be a last resort and going against what they originally said. I did watch till the end of the vid so no 🤡, and also note I'm talking about endgame players complaining. I would completely understand if a very new player was mad if it got nerfed. Or if they were to bring the quest back they would have to have it take at least 3 times as long and remove the frostfall coin goal (obviously).
Like the video, but my problem is that I realy want the weapon to stay limited time. I think having limited time weapons is realy healthy for the game, and something new and engaging. I just came back for the weapon, because it is limited time. So I think the best solution to the problem would be to exclude limited time weapons from competetive game modes. That way, when more limited time weapons come out the devs don't even have to bother with such a problem again and could make them as powerfull as the silber sword. It just isn't suited for this emergency sitiuation. So I'd say, make the weapon obtaiable untill a framework for excliding weapons form competetive modes has been made.
No one can replace cosplay
sadness that I only got to 13k out of 25k on the silver sword questline. 😭😭
i literally launched the game and checked.... i think it's f'd up that you can't powersurge the weapon even tho i have it... but i wouldn't say you have to nerf it... just make it more available. :/
I say if you wasn't willing to farm it out, you should just live with it. We spent many hours/days to farm this sword. It should be the best weapon in the game. No other weapon needs even 1/20th the effort to get.
If you chose not to farm it, that's one thing. But if you never have the option to farm it, being the case for people who just start playing the game from now on, it's entirely unfair to them
@@TheMrTrails might return next year, they need to leave it alone or let us know solidly what will happen with it next Frostfall. Because if it returns then it’s fine if not then new players are phukked. But nerfed isn’t the way to go to screw over the people that put in the worked to level it, that’s not fair to them. But also since when have the devs done anything that make sense??
I’m sorry but no it took to long to get and took way to much time
*insert angery comment about why the silver sword is fair and balanced here*
Why don't they disable it's use from Trials? Make it primarily average pve based.
Like I said the other day do not Nerfed it it took a long time to get it and if they do IM BLAMING YOU
The options to level the playing field all suck... I dont want them to nerf the sword but realistically what else can they do? But please devs dont put warmth in the weapon... mabe take away the extra hp altogether if revenant makes it OP then take health out and add parasitic or something for the casual gamers to stay alive... not warmth. Warmth it useless.. and yeah maybe that might be an ok compromise.... I think nobody wants the original warmth weapon... if that is what it was going to be honestly I would have never grinded for it... I looked up a video to see what the legendary silver sword offered and wanted it.... so I think that is where the rub is.
I only did the quest to get the crown i didn't know that the silver sword was op 🙂
Nerf??? Players need to pass throught the hell to get all the upgrade levels
If the devs dont want to leave silver sword like this... DO A EVENT THAT DONT MAKE THE PLAYERS PLAY THE GAME FOR THE WHOLE DAY FOR 5 DAYS(or more)
Okay maybe this is a dumb aproach, but why not disable the Silver Sword for Trials. Only make it available in Trials during Frostfall. So it would still get used in HG and Escas, but it wouldn't be the Meta for every Trial. Oh and 🤡🤡🤡🤡 better watch until 8:03.
Yah me 2 I got kicked out of the leaderbord in boreus trails
Same is sja
I grinded the entire silver sword so it shouldn’t get nerfed
I literally grinded 9 out of the 11 steps and it burnt me out. 5 reforges for this, horrible quest design.
Too bad they can't blacklist loadouts that include unobtainable items in trials.
everyone should experience that hell that we went threw so i agree with mr trails that they should reenable 😈
Probably, but they should buff the molten edict a little
They've nerfed it twice and it's still #1 dps for squads on neutral and frost weeks
@@TheMrTrails aw alright, one more thing. Do you think they'll ever make exotic strikers?
I dont have it and its my fault so i cant cry. But if they made the sword obtainable again i would try get it. Some ppl loose time to get it so they deserved it
I spend 5 days to get it. I know it is unfair OP but it is not my fault that he didn't spend a few days to get it.
OR make it harder for people to get that didn't get it frostfall or don't give crown and title
Watched video till end.
Why stop at complaining about a barrier for just one item? Aren’t there a whole bunch of situations where the best potential players won’t necessarily be rewarded for being the best?
Why do you get to decide how much effort is enough for passing the barrier of entry? You have to grind a whole bunch of gear and cells and reforges, and max out your slayers path over months and months. Where are we going to talk as if having a paragon like reforge system where you gain 5% power here and they are over and over again is not somehow a large barrier to entry?
Yeah, that’s a real fair barrier to other people trying to compete?
If anything, the only fair solution would be allowing players to choose any item, and any cell specifically within trials. This would remove the barrier of entry from anything other than player experience and skill, which is the closest you could get to fairness.
But the vast majority of us really don’t care about leader boards in a game, where running some flavor of the week set up after having grinding months of essentially paragon is how you win.
If I wanted to play a competitively ranked game, I would probably play something like StarCraft two where itemization isn’t even a factor.
Dauntless is a game you glide around with your five-year-old in and laugh at your friends getting stomped like fools by Pangars falling over on them.
As far as I’m concerned, they should make the change I mentioned and continue release over powered quest lines and items, and just have more and more explosions as well as continue looking into developing the game around gliding and hunts a little more, and make everybody have an optional grind there… Whereas there can’t be a grind for trials outside of your time because all of the gear is available from the get go.
Some people might say that if you have all of that gear available to you and trials, why would you grind it? Well, how much fun is it really to play trials over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over? It’s not. Almost nobody who plays the game gets fulfillment from that. And even fewer people than that are actually doing the work it takes to find out what the flavor of the week/month build is. Then everybody else just copies there rotation, and get up.
"It's unfair to new players"...
How many new players compete for top 5?
When they get to the endgame, they won't be new players now will they? I'm referring to anyone who starts playing after this point.
@TheMrTrails anyone who starts playing now would get it by next frostfall. They cant cry over a limited event that happened when they were not in the game. It makes no sense to me.
Nerf it…or make the quest chain keep working but require rams instead of frost fall coins.
So glad you made this video cause i could not agree more, this is exactly why its not okay and they either need to make it constantly available or nerf it
That was hard as fuck to get dont nerf it
Yeah don't nerf it make it able to get without waiting then next Christmas
Trials ruin most of the fun aspects of the game. And I never understood the obsession of being on the leaderboard every week. You can’t be good at the game and skip the silver sword quest
Cosplay 2.0 LETGO
🤡🤡The silver sword was a limited time event item that you HAD to farm and invest time into. Those who put in the time and effort were rewarded for it. It shouldn't be nerfed because it's not "fair" to other players. The impact on the leaderboard only affects that percentage of players who aim for it. I've jumped into games after a really cool limited item was available but I didn't think it unfair that I couldn't get it. There's no complaining to be done, I wasn't around to get the item. I'm not gonna throw a fit about it after the fact. Leaderboard only applies to a smaller demographic of players, make changes w/ the weapon there, not for everyone.
yea but the fact is its Just better, so new players cant compete in most trails lmao
@Vrissta -slash- Kireg how many new players compete for top 5?
@@amateur_gamer101 im not speaking now, im speaking in the future. new players that get to the level where they can compete wont be able to on a good portion of trials due to having a straight up worse weapon.
just enable the quest for everyone....