I've been towing since 1995. I have always believed and practiced that if we don't complete the service there is no charge. I signed up for the group. Been working to get a truck ready for recoveries.
That’s how it should be. Some of these tow companies are taking advantage of people while they’re desperate. That’s why I created these off-road recovery groups. We appreciate your support. Send me a message on Facebook if you can and I can probably send you some gear to use.
Thank you for the service you provide. As a new off roader/ over lander I’ve been taken advantage of due to be stuck not far from civilization but had no other choice due to having my young family with me. I called a tow truck and they had me do most of the work yet charged me 200 an hour but could have gotten me out in a matter of 15 min. My first time taking my truck down a dirt road and had no idea what I was doing. Been watching a lot of videos and research and haven’t had much issues I can’t make out myself. Thank you for the videos and helping others
*IT'S HARD FOR A COMPANY TO TAKE A HIT AND LOSE MONEY WHEN THEY SEND A TRUCK OUT* *NOW IF YOUR TOWING FOR YOURSELF* *THEN THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY* *BUT THIS COMPANY CHARGING $6900* *WITHOUT EVEN COMPLETING THE JOB* *IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD* 🤔😑
Yep if you didn’t complete the job you can’t charge I’d tell em too take me to court! And bring this video for proof of them not doing the job. That someone else had to do it and done it for free.
That's good business ethics. I thought it was very cool/reasonable of the man when he said he sent that tow company a check for 2G's even though they didnt get him out. Tow company is fortunate to have gotten anything. Hope they recognize that..
Just saw video while i was working in upstate new york running a generator at 3am waiting for commercial power to b restored, great what u do ( volunteer) to help others in need. God bless👍🇺🇸
Being a land surveyor for 16 years . I’ve buried our f250 company truck several times in some bad places , we always used an off road recovery service and was never billed more than 500.00 . The one time we only had towing services to choose from minimum 2000.00 😂. Got on social media and in 5 minutes had 4 people on the way for no charge , 2 hours later we were out and we just tipped everyone 500.00 to split between them .
Nice looking truck I have a AT4 just like that..when I was younger I had a lot of trucks ,bronco s my best was my 79 bronco with a 4 speed manual and 40 mudders I loved that truck and back then they didn’t cost much to buy and build.my new truck cost to much to go crazy and I grew up..4 wheeling is a lot of fun
Thanks for doing the 4x4 recoveries. Those of us who enjoying traveling of pavement will need to get recovered someday! I know I have recovered my share of vehicles over the years. Nice Jeeps!
I've been part of the Rio Grande Valley Mud and Sand Recovery team for nearly a decade. We may not get snow, but we get bad beach weather and are always on the arm about distress posts on the RGVMSR fb page. Good job fellas.
Can’t believe they sent him a 6500 dollar bill for a job that didn’t get completed. Not to mention, left the dude hanging after picking up his gear. SMH. Small Claims Court you go. Bet he probably billed him for the stuff that broke on his truck. Tow companies are unbelievable. Glad y’all helped him and glad to know there are good people out there just doing good things. #payitforward Love the channel. Keep up the good content.
So the tow truck shows up, breaks your window, gets stuck, leaves you stuck, and then charges you almost 7 grand? That might be the most California thing I've heard
$6500 to not get him out? And hit his truck with a strap. I can’t see how they can charge him anything to not get him out. Criminal. Glad there are good people out there like you.
They should post the name of the tow company so that everyone will know who NOT to do business with in the future... You hire them for a service (i.e. to get your vehicle out of the situation and to a place where you can drive on your own). If they do not accomplish that, then they do not deserve to get paid. You don't hire them to ATTEMPT to get you out since that gives them no incentive to complete the task. I'm sure they want to get paid for their time, even if they fail, but if they are not sure they can complete the task, then they shouldn't accept the job. Maybe they should have some sort of "conditional completion" contract with the customer -- $5/hr for ATTEMPTING to rescue the vehicle and $XXX (or maybe $XX/hr) if they are successful? Need to give them some incentive to complete the job that they agreed to in the first place.
Insane what tow companies can charge. I talked AAA into getting me when my clutch went out, during a rescue of course. I was close enough to the road foe their winchline to reach me. Was an expensive rescue but we learned a lot, everyone got out and that is what mattered. Awesome rescue!
Awesome job guys!!!! ,,, but really disappointing for that trail boss! My guess is that traction control and stability trac were not turned off. Two big 👍🏼 for what u guys do!
That just happened to us two days ago! Got stuck. Hiked up to get cell signal. Search and Rescue got us out. Vehicle is still there. The surrounding looks exactly like this. Rescue team had to use an Argo to get to us. We are just thinking what to do...
Great video! Men of good heart are always king. I look forward to joining your group (or a group) as soon as I am competent to do so. (chops and rig) I own a lifted 4Runner with MT's.
@@robertpotrykus8739 I’d leave the truck until the snow melts. Never off-road a vehicle you aren’t willing to lose, at least for a season. I wouldn’t pay the tow charge and turn them into the attorney general. He didn’t even deliver.
I live in So cal. When it snows up at Big Bear the hiway fuzz won't let you through without snow chains. If I ever go up to your part of the country there's two things I'm taking for sure. Tire chains and a kinetic rope.
That’s awesome man!! Great recovery and really dig your out to help us guys that’s stuck without charging and arm and leg cause we all broke these days! My buddy has a Trail Boss he call it a Trail Bitch 🤣🤣🤣
Love off reading a got a 2003 slt 5.9 gas Lifted 4 inch looked at the back and 35 on A want to look the front and make a snorkel and light ont the top souun
No way! You do this for free?! When I first clicked on your video, I thought you were bragging about how much you were charging. You guys rock! 🤟 Once I get my rig, maybe I’ll start a rescue club in my area.
Never rescued anyone from snow (I'm in the SE Texas Gulf Coast area, so we don't do snow here), but I've helped a few people over the years who got stuck in mud because they tried to cut across the grass area between the highway and the feeder road (and they didn't realize that the ground was too soft for 2WD vehicles) because traffic was tied up because of a wreck or something way up ahead... They always ask how much they owe me for the help and I tell them "nothing, just return the favor to someone else in the future"... But, unlike you guys, I'm not really going out of my way to go help someone since I'm already there stuck in traffic also... And besides, rescuing them gives me a legitimate excuse to cut across the grass to the feeder road so that I can continue on the feeder road after I've helped them... :) Don't need 4WD all the time, but it's nice to have it when you need it...
Yeah the tow companies are outrageous for pricing, I do have to say that that road your traveling in on looks much like half the roads in out county and we have had -45 for the last three weeks and many inches of blowing snow during that same time! That why 50% of vehicles here are lifted diesels with aggressive M&S tires on them! Have fun boys!
Well done! I was wondering why you had the other Jeep behind? I would figure that having the other Jeep in front of the tow Jeep would allow you all more options if the tow Jeep got stuck.
If the tow vehicle got stuck with tension on the line it’s easier for me to pull up beside the vehicle that’s being towed and winch or yank the tow vehicle back. It’s much harder to pull both vehicles at the same time. Plus, it’s better for the video for me to be behind them.. I can always pull upfront and daisy chain together if needed.
That’s the first thing I do is have them turn off traction control and air down. There was some deep ruts in some areas. I was bottoming out in the Jeep so there’s no way he was making it under his own power.
New Z71's only have a rear locker, which is ridiculous for a truck called a trail boss. I read something about independent front suspension so no locker.
He mentioned it at the end. He sent a check for 2k and suggested they take him to court if they have a problem with that. I wouldn't have paid a dime personally, especially after they broke his window.
You guys interested in snow wheeling out Icehouse, Loon Lake area this Friday (4/9)? I want to get my new-to-me '07 FJ into the snow before it melts, and it's Always better to have a couple vehicles!
i don't know, seems like some $100 traction plates would have gotten them out of situation. Or even some straps and a hi-lift. You always take some emergency equipment especially when facing snow.....
No way Id pay that recovery bill especially if they didn't get me out. I wouldn't have even paid the $2000. The tow company didn't bring the right tool for the job thats on them. Good on you Jeep guys taking your time to go up there and get him out.
Auburn CA is my hometown and I lived there most of my younger years. It does my heart good to see your laid-back way of helping these stranded folks in the Sierras. I now live in Moab Utah, great off road, red rock 4 wheeling and all around fantastic beauty. Is there a Recovery Team located in or around the Moab area?
I think it did have a rear locker but none of us were aware of it at the time. Either way it wouldn’t have helped much, ground clearance was the limiting factor
Someone recently told me you should absolutely not use a kinetic (or static tow rope) in reverse with my Jeep. He said the teeth in the transmission are too week and you can easily shear them off. I’ve done it 5-6 times and reverse still works, is there truth to this?
It’s more the ring in the differential, definitely not recommend but it’s best with a kinetic rope, I will let off the gas right before the rope tightens. Try to avoid reverse pulls whenever possible, always best to use the tow package while going forward. We didn’t have much room to work with on the Raptor recovery and I didn’t want to turn around just to turn back around
I’ve already spoke with them, it’s a long story. They’re no longer offering off-road recovery last I heard. It’s not something they’re geared towards. They spent a whole day out there and only moved it a mile.
I've been towing since 1995. I have always believed and practiced that if we don't complete the service there is no charge. I signed up for the group. Been working to get a truck ready for recoveries.
That’s how it should be. Some of these tow companies are taking advantage of people while they’re desperate. That’s why I created these off-road recovery groups. We appreciate your support. Send me a message on Facebook if you can and I can probably send you some gear to use.
Thank you for the service you provide. As a new off roader/ over lander I’ve been taken advantage of due to be stuck not far from civilization but had no other choice due to having my young family with me. I called a tow truck and they had me do most of the work yet charged me 200 an hour but could have gotten me out in a matter of 15 min. My first time taking my truck down a dirt road and had no idea what I was doing. Been watching a lot of videos and research and haven’t had much issues I can’t make out myself. Thank you for the videos and helping others
*IT'S HARD FOR A COMPANY TO TAKE A HIT AND LOSE MONEY WHEN THEY SEND A TRUCK OUT*
*NOW IF YOUR TOWING FOR YOURSELF*
*THEN THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY*
*BUT THIS COMPANY CHARGING $6900*
*WITHOUT EVEN COMPLETING THE JOB*
*IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD* 🤔😑
Yep if you didn’t complete the job you can’t charge I’d tell em too take me to court! And bring this video for proof of them not doing the job. That someone else had to do it and done it for free.
That's good business ethics. I thought it was very cool/reasonable of the man when he said he sent that tow company a check for 2G's even though they didnt get him out. Tow company is fortunate to have gotten anything. Hope they recognize that..
Oh snap! I thought you were charging him $6,500🤯... I'm so glad you said "We do it for free!" You got yourself a subscriber!
It’s awesome to see great people out there willing to help others. Thanks for all you guys do
there may still be hope for the 4x4 community! great work guys
Just saw video while i was working in upstate new york running a generator at 3am waiting for commercial power to b restored, great what u do ( volunteer) to help others in need. God bless👍🇺🇸
Wow, just heard about you guys; you're awesome, and a GREAT asset to the community! Thank you for what you're doing!
Being a land surveyor for 16 years . I’ve buried our f250 company truck several times in some bad places , we always used an off road recovery service and was never billed more than 500.00 . The one time we only had towing services to choose from minimum 2000.00 😂. Got on social media and in 5 minutes had 4 people on the way for no charge , 2 hours later we were out and we just tipped everyone 500.00 to split between them .
thanks for helping people in need these towing services are crazy
That’s why I drive jeeps I have 3 of them love them period keep them fire videos coming waiting for the next have a good day.
Nice looking truck I have a AT4 just like that..when I was younger I had a lot of trucks ,bronco s my best was my 79 bronco with a 4 speed manual and 40 mudders I loved that truck and back then they didn’t cost much to buy and build.my new truck cost to much to go crazy and I grew up..4 wheeling is a lot of fun
Thanks for doing the 4x4 recoveries. Those of us who enjoying traveling of pavement will need to get recovered someday! I know I have recovered my share of vehicles over the years. Nice Jeeps!
I've been part of the Rio Grande Valley Mud and Sand Recovery team for nearly a decade. We may not get snow, but we get bad beach weather and are always on the arm about distress posts on the RGVMSR fb page. Good job fellas.
Feels good being The Man, awesome job, easy work for the jeep with lockers
I love snow wheeling just for the recoveries, it’s a blast just going for it then the recovery of whoever couldn’t make it.
Can’t believe they sent him a 6500 dollar bill for a job that didn’t get completed. Not to mention, left the dude hanging after picking up his gear. SMH. Small Claims Court you go.
Bet he probably billed him for the stuff that broke on his truck. Tow companies are unbelievable. Glad y’all helped him and glad to know there are good people out there just doing good things. #payitforward
Love the channel. Keep up the good content.
So the tow truck shows up, breaks your window, gets stuck, leaves you stuck, and then charges you almost 7 grand? That might be the most California thing I've heard
I'd tell them to kick rocks.
I love seeing dogs in their natural element! They were happy as hell!
i cant believe you guys do it for free.. thats amazing.. i would definitely give you $500 and a handshake for your services.. thats incredible
$6500 to not get him out? And hit his truck with a strap. I can’t see how they can charge him anything to not get him out. Criminal. Glad there are good people out there like you.
@Osoriver that’s why they hide behind bulletproof glass when you go to pick up your vehicle at their storage lot.
They should post the name of the tow company so that everyone will know who NOT to do business with in the future... You hire them for a service (i.e. to get your vehicle out of the situation and to a place where you can drive on your own). If they do not accomplish that, then they do not deserve to get paid. You don't hire them to ATTEMPT to get you out since that gives them no incentive to complete the task. I'm sure they want to get paid for their time, even if they fail, but if they are not sure they can complete the task, then they shouldn't accept the job. Maybe they should have some sort of "conditional completion" contract with the customer -- $5/hr for ATTEMPTING to rescue the vehicle and $XXX (or maybe $XX/hr) if they are successful? Need to give them some incentive to complete the job that they agreed to in the first place.
Insane what tow companies can charge. I talked AAA into getting me when my clutch went out, during a rescue of course. I was close enough to the road foe their winchline to reach me. Was an expensive rescue but we learned a lot, everyone got out and that is what mattered. Awesome rescue!
Awesome job guys!!!! ,,, but really disappointing for that trail boss! My guess is that traction control and stability trac were not turned off. Two big 👍🏼 for what u guys do!
Yep my thoughts too traction control wasn't turned off, you can see it one tire spinning and not the others great job do.
My 2wd 2500 RAM worked better with it on, because off was just digging me deeper.
That just happened to us two days ago! Got stuck. Hiked up to get cell signal. Search and Rescue got us out. Vehicle is still there. The surrounding looks exactly like this. Rescue team had to use an Argo to get to us. We are just thinking what to do...
What state? Pm me on Facebook at 4x4 Rescue
Glad to find out about this and that there are people out there that can help.
Great job! Subscribed! Like your line "I hate this place". Lol.
I am a native of ice house I am very appreciative for people like you I subscribe just to try to keep you in business buddy.
You do this to help people and restore faith in humanity. You have my 👍🏾 and subscription!
I got stuck out there last year lol. Not fun. Snow up to the doors and everytime we dug and winched out we got stuck a few feet ahead again.
Yeah I’ve had 10 vehicles stuck at the same time up there. Usually when you can’t go any farther and everyone has to turn around, most get stuck.
Great video! Men of good heart are always king. I look forward to joining your group (or a group) as soon as I am competent to do so. (chops and rig) I own a lifted 4Runner with MT's.
Rhino straps pretty awesome work great 👍
Great recovery. Great video. Great people
and they did it for FREE ! Great Job !
This is great there are some of us still willing to. Do a good deed
30+ yrs On the National Ski Patrol (Retired) ... I get it ... Thank you 👍
$6500 and they didn't do anything for him. Can they make him pay when they didn't deliver? Great job, you guys did it.
That tow company needs to have a fraud complaint turned in on them.
@@robertpotrykus8739 I’d leave the truck until the snow melts. Never off-road a vehicle you aren’t willing to lose, at least for a season. I wouldn’t pay the tow charge and turn them into the attorney general. He didn’t even deliver.
You guys are brave and amazing. I'm a white knuckle driver in snow and can't fathom driving on roads that bad.😳
You guys are awesome!!!! I'll spread the good word! New subscriber
This is so impressive. Love it.
I live in So cal. When it snows up at Big Bear the hiway fuzz won't let you through without snow chains. If I ever go up to your part of the country there's two things I'm taking for sure. Tire chains and a kinetic rope.
Love the video man! Love being outside! The dunes here in Oregon always have someone needing a little pull!
super interesting video. thank you.
Cool video, honourable hobby, will watch more of your videos now that stumbled across your channel
Thanks! Definitely trying to make as many videos as possible.
Oh man, good to know guys like you in my area, I’ve got a stock Tacoma and it gets squirrelly sometimes
Very nice job guys. That fellow deserved much better customer service from the other tow company. 🇨🇦
Watching this 11 months later living close to this area and gas prices are almost double I wish they were 3.99 a gallon lol
Right!
That’s awesome man!! Great recovery and really dig your out to help us guys that’s stuck without charging and arm and leg cause we all broke these days! My buddy has a Trail Boss he call it a Trail Bitch 🤣🤣🤣
Goodrich KO2 tires for snow fun.
They saved my ass a few times.
I didn't know there is still Great people out there, Awesome job
Great job. Incredible quick video edit too
Great job guys
It's very awesome to go out and help people there still is some good people left.
Thanks for sharing!
That’s awesome that you go out of your way for free. I usually ask for gas money lol
Incredibly beautiful Forestry maybe someday you could do a recovery for me local area Ontario Oregon
Good recovery
I hope he gets reimbursed or he fights it. He seems like humble guy.
Great reason go out and go playin even though you are doing a service your also Snow Wheeling and that's always fun
Love off reading a got a 2003 slt 5.9 gas
Lifted 4 inch looked at the back and 35 on
A want to look the front and make a snorkel and light ont the top souun
That's crazy to me . You at the gas station with no snow talking about a snow recovery. I live in Michigan. When it snows it snows everywhere
Sacramento doesn’t get snow, you go an hour up to Lake Tahoe and they get 20’ of snow..lol
great job!!!!!
Need some more throttle to get that G80 locked in. Awesome stuff y’all are doing and great video
Yup, truck should honestly do pretty good in the snow. Driver’s lack of experience and skill got him stuck
Great job guys! Send this video to the tow company. 6900 and didn't even complete the job. foh
Such a great group you have put together!
Good for you! Subscribed
did awesome job hats too y’all
No way! You do this for free?! When I first clicked on your video, I thought you were bragging about how much you were charging. You guys rock! 🤟 Once I get my rig, maybe I’ll start a rescue club in my area.
We have a group for each state, search the state name and 4x4Rescue at the end 👍
@@4x4rescue74 Do you carry liability insurance for potential damage ? Or have a legally written hold harmless wavier signed and witnessed ?
Great job guys. 👌
Never rescued anyone from snow (I'm in the SE Texas Gulf Coast area, so we don't do snow here), but I've helped a few people over the years who got stuck in mud because they tried to cut across the grass area between the highway and the feeder road (and they didn't realize that the ground was too soft for 2WD vehicles) because traffic was tied up because of a wreck or something way up ahead... They always ask how much they owe me for the help and I tell them "nothing, just return the favor to someone else in the future"... But, unlike you guys, I'm not really going out of my way to go help someone since I'm already there stuck in traffic also... And besides, rescuing them gives me a legitimate excuse to cut across the grass to the feeder road so that I can continue on the feeder road after I've helped them... :) Don't need 4WD all the time, but it's nice to have it when you need it...
If the towing company didn’t do the job you definitely do not pay them.
Very nice work gentlemen! 🍻👍
Great video.
Nice job guys.
Yeah the tow companies are outrageous for pricing, I do have to say that that road your traveling in on looks much like half the roads in out county and we have had -45 for the last three weeks and many inches of blowing snow during that same time! That why 50% of vehicles here are lifted diesels with aggressive M&S tires on them! Have fun boys!
Man... 3.99 that's cheep... I'm in southern Cali and it's stupid expensive. Yeah "good ol California" 🤦♂️
Excellent video.
Yeah that video is old
Thanks man! You're doing awesome things! 👌 great video!!
Thanks!
hell yeah!! awesome job Guys!!!
Awesome work man!!!
Nice job guys!
4:11 did you install your right tail cover backwards? cuz the flag is backwards.
Well done! I was wondering why you had the other Jeep behind? I would figure that having the other Jeep in front of the tow Jeep would allow you all more options if the tow Jeep got stuck.
If the tow vehicle got stuck with tension on the line it’s easier for me to pull up beside the vehicle that’s being towed and winch or yank the tow vehicle back. It’s much harder to pull both vehicles at the same time. Plus, it’s better for the video for me to be behind them.. I can always pull upfront and daisy chain together if needed.
I think he would have made it out on his own or with a tug had he disabled traction control which it looks like it was enabled in the video.
That’s the first thing I do is have them turn off traction control and air down. There was some deep ruts in some areas. I was bottoming out in the Jeep so there’s no way he was making it under his own power.
Why is the traction control detrimental in this situation?
New Z71's only have a rear locker, which is ridiculous for a truck called a trail boss. I read something about independent front suspension so no locker.
Any updates on the tow company charge? $6500 is outrageous for not getting him out.
He mentioned it at the end. He sent a check for 2k and suggested they take him to court if they have a problem with that. I wouldn't have paid a dime personally, especially after they broke his window.
Nice work
yes great for you you help
You guys interested in snow wheeling out Icehouse, Loon Lake area this Friday (4/9)? I want to get my new-to-me '07 FJ into the snow before it melts, and it's Always better to have a couple vehicles!
Wish I could make it, we’re going to Prairie City this weekend. You would probably get more snow up Mormon Emigrant than what icehouse has.
i don't know, seems like some $100 traction plates would have gotten them out of situation. Or even some straps and a hi-lift. You always take some emergency equipment especially when facing snow.....
I’m wondering why at 12 mins approximately. He got the trail boss stuck and the g80 never kicked in
No way Id pay that recovery bill especially if they didn't get me out. I wouldn't have even paid the $2000. The tow company didn't bring the right tool for the job thats on them. Good on you Jeep guys taking your time to go up there and get him out.
Auburn CA is my hometown and I lived there most of my younger years. It does my heart good to see your laid-back way of helping these stranded folks in the Sierras.
I now live in Moab Utah, great off road, red rock 4 wheeling and all around fantastic beauty. Is there a Recovery Team located in or around the Moab area?
Matt's off-road recovery
FabRats
That Z71 trail boss doesn't have lockers? My 2013 has G80's front/ rear.
That truck should at least have the g80 locker in the rear unless GM stopped putting in that year truck. My 2017 has it.
I think it did have a rear locker but none of us were aware of it at the time. Either way it wouldn’t have helped much, ground clearance was the limiting factor
Good works
Someone recently told me you should absolutely not use a kinetic (or static tow rope) in reverse with my Jeep. He said the teeth in the transmission are too week and you can easily shear them off. I’ve done it 5-6 times and reverse still works, is there truth to this?
It’s more the ring in the differential, definitely not recommend but it’s best with a kinetic rope, I will let off the gas right before the rope tightens. Try to avoid reverse pulls whenever possible, always best to use the tow package while going forward. We didn’t have much room to work with on the Raptor recovery and I didn’t want to turn around just to turn back around
Cleanest stuck vehicle ever!
I put BF Goodrich KO2 on my silverado and have been in deeper snow than that no problem
Great job!
What size lift and tires do you have on your jeep?
So airing down does help in snow. ?
Please post details of this towing company so we can have some fun with them...
I’ve already spoke with them, it’s a long story. They’re no longer offering off-road recovery last I heard. It’s not something they’re geared towards. They spent a whole day out there and only moved it a mile.
Would tire chains be an advantage in this situation?
I’m in central ca. your area looks very similar to mine. Nice to see off-road rescue channel here in ca. I agree ca sucks.