Very good video and good viewer comments here. I mainly fish for great lakes run fish. The three I tie are a nail knot for Fly line to tippet, double surgeons for section to section, and a Palomar from tippet to fly (if the eye is big enough to double through) . I think i'll go to the triple surgeons. One more pass through.The surgeons has been my most common breaking point.
Like your knots! The clinch knot works best in small diameter monofilament line tied on hooks that are not too different from the size of the hook's wire. It does have the benefit of easy creation and uses less leader. The Uni knot has been my multi purpose go to for years. Perfection Loop knots are so simple and failure proof that they have no real replacement for me. Thanks for this revisit of knots presented in the Orvis Learning center.
I’m just learning fly fishing, but I’ve been spinning reel fishing for years. I only use 2 knots for everything! I thought I’d have to learn 8 different knots when i first started fishing. You’re absolutely right about it being intimidating. The knots I use are clinch knot, and surgeons loop. The only other times I use different knots is if I have to attach line to line, and that one I have to look up every time lol
I fish the Elk in WV where we fish really small flies. So the Davie knot comes in handy. But yep the surgeon’s knot a perfection are mandatory. Well done.
Uni all the way. Dave Whitlock wrote a great article about it six or seven years ago but I'd already been using it awhile. it just confirmed what I already found out. simplicity. as an edit I use a non slip mono not when necessary and surgeon knot when I gotta rebuild a leader in low light lol but the uni is really optimum.
My favorites are the barrel, your clinch, left handed turrell, and blood knot. I have my own knot, simple knot on leader with 5 half hitches. I only use 8lb leader which is soft enough to run through the eyes. Released numerous large salmon on this leader and knots. Nothing over 43 inches Atlanta salmon and sea run trout are all I fish.
I rarely use a tippet and tie my fly directly to leader material. Simply because 1) quick and easy 2) fine tippet material I have such a difficult time handling. Most leaders and fly lines these days (at least what I buy from Orvis) already have loops in them and are simple to attach. I just wish I could get better tying the clinch knot on those tiny #16 hooks. I can barely see them. :)
@@toxic1698 yes, tippet should be used to get a finer diameter tippet section closer to the fly. Avoid tying on thicker diameter near the fly ..... that would make casting difficult..... fly won’t want to unfurl properly.
you should definitely add the Davy Wotton . Clinch knot is no good for fishing little flies, too clunky. If I am fishing anything smaller than a fourteen ( which is most of the time) it is a DW knot every time. Any dries smaller than a 14 also get the DW.
I find that the clinch know often kinks my flouro and makes flies (especially dry flies) more noticeable. Am I doing something wrong with my knot? Does this happen to anyone else?
You. Just not fish streamers…My my 3… Improved Clinch Knot Surgeons Knot Non Slip Mono Loop/Kreh Loop(different names, same knot…for tying on any streamers) Can tie a perfection loop but so rarely use it or need it, was surprised it was mentioned…other three used daily every time I fish.
Why the triple surgeons and not a Blood Knot ??? I have come to depend on the blood knot and it never fails when tied correctly. Not the easiest knot to tie, however. Is there a reason aside from simplicity that you prefer the triple surgeon? Thanks, Cpl. Hood @SHHFishing, Single Hook Hogs Fishing ( TH-cam )
Great video! I've found the clinch knot finicky so switched to a pitzen knot for dries. It's visual and audible confirmations are reassuring. And because the pitzen is stronger I've been forced to learn the triple surgeons as I generally break off somewhere along my length of tippet or leader. Any wet flies get a non-slip loop knot. Gonna put the perfection in my to-learn list as I use an albright for leader to line connections.
Tom thanks for this! I most heartily agree. I would add the non-slip loop knot or Kreh knot - very useful for tying on streamers and articulated flies.
Hey, Tom. Thanks for another great video. You are one of the premier fly fishing teachers anywhere! You simplify topics that make fly fishing so much more enjoyable and do it so humbly. Your books are also so wonderful to read. Thank you!!!!
Nice stuff.I have been making rods for many many years in Taiwan and China Weihai. Now I am very interested in fly fishing and start tying flys.BTW, I have watched a lot of your shows. It's very helpful to me.Thank you.
I think this is just so practical and logical, especially as I'm just starting out as a fly fisherman (I've fished every other method). Will make my life so much easier! Three knots: one for attching flies, one for joining lines, and one for when you might need a loop. Perfect! Thank you!
Beginner here, With enough pulling power I can always destroy my clinch knots. Sometime I'm pulling real hard but it always comes lose. Any ideas to fix this? :D
the clinch knot isnt working for me, fly falls/breaks off after the second or third cast.... im about out of flies and cant figure out why... im doing the knot exactly as specified... five times around the line then back thru the loop and cinch tight... so far has not worked at all... im brand new to this so idk whats wrong, ive never had this issue with other types of fishing rods/lures... i have been fishing my whole life, just not fly fishing... my rod didnt come with any "tippet", just fly line and leader.... whats tippet? and whats it for? do i need tippet to make it secure?
With the clinch knot I like to go thru the first loop then come back thru the big loop then back thru the first loop then pull tight. I promise the line will break before the knot. I've always called it the fisherman's knot
A simpler clinch knot Tag end through the eye Right hand holds tag end and standing line with fly dangling Put left index finger into loop against fly Rotate left wrist in either direction twisting the tag end around the standings line 5-6 turns With your left index finger and thumb reach through the loop and grab the tag end and pull it back out of the loop. Moisten the knot and pull the knot tight.
Good stuff! Double davy here, flies smaller than let's say 18, the normal davy. Find them much smaller knots than the clinch and knotable with a tiny amount of tippet length. Streamer I use micro snaps with double davy or for small Streamers the non slip loop knot. The other two I use also, perfection loop and triple surgeons
Just learned about the "Davy" and it's becoming my favorite for trout/grayling. Looking forward to salmon season to see how it stands up to kings and silvers.
I hate tying perfection loops, so I tie a surgeon's loop instead. Not as pretty, but I'm less likely to throw everything in the river out of frustration.
Both of the first 2 knots have been very problematic for me with anything thinner than 3x. Now I tie an orvis knot for anything that isn’t a streamer and a non-slip loop for anything that needs to swim. I’ve had very consistent performance with those 2.
I have used your knots from day one for 40 years, the best one is tippet to tippet ,its fast and strong and your right back on the water. I found the style for the knots in the orvis leader package.
I learned the perfection loop as the easiest way to attach a saltwater fly as it gives the fly some good play in the loop. Once you get used to tying it, it’s one of the easiest knots to tie IMO
Because I did years of Bass fishing with spinning gear, I tied the Trilene Knot, but it had 2 problems with flies. First, it requires you to send the line thru the eye twice. Sometimes because of smaller flies, it cant be done. And second, it had a tendency to slip apart on lighter tippets. So the clinch knot is very similar and works well. Just re-tie your knot often if you've had fish tugging on it. (Which is what we All want)
Indeed,you can make the knot with a very large loop, but need only a very small free end. The knot is also much stronger and reliable than a blood knot. You also can use it to attach your tippet to the last loop of your leader. Your tippet never breaks at this knots,but at windknots in your tippet
1 knot is all you need, the clinch knot is enough with modern tapered leaders which just get replaced and fly lines that have a loop built in...been using only that one for past 20 years and didn't even know its name...knots and casting are hugely overrated in fly fishing circles, like obscure stats in baseball.
Nice demo and as always, your presentation style and tone are so soothing and easy to follow. One of my first trips to a fly shop was for help with knots. Rusty Gates was at the counter of his lodge that day and I remember the somewhat amused look on his face when he saw a couple of my “Better” knots I brought with me. He pulled down a very inexpensive Tie-Fast tool and said “this is all you need. Follow the instructions inside.” Being a bit desperate I took his advice to heart. It’s a single process with very slight variations that does everything I’ve ever needed. I tested my Tie Fast nail knots with a digital scale against my own blood knots and clinch knots and surgeons knots. Only my surgeons knots came close to the breaking strength of the Tie Fast nail knots. Once in awhile I still use a surgeons knot to save a little time and change a tippet section but 99 pct of my knots are on the Tie Fast. Easier in cold conditions and stronger than other knots I tie.
I don't disagree, but a nail knot and a blood knot are worth learning, too. I'm guessing they've been phased out some by gadgets or something, but I'm sure they still have value.
Only 2 knots needed... double surgeons knot for tippet to tippet connections .... 16 - 20 knot for tying on flies... much better knot than the cinch knot
Another enthusiastic vote for the pitzen knot for tippet to fly. I also use it for tippet to tippet ring. I can’t understand why they’re not used more universally. They are one of the strongest knots, are easy to tie in the field, and the tactile “pop” they feedback when tied gives you 100% confidence it was tied correctly. That level of assurance isn’t replicated by any other knot.
Sorry to disagree but the clinch knot is far inferior to the Jack Miller knot which some rate at near 100% line strength! The Davey knots are close seconds!! I agree that the triple surgeons knot is a great knot for joining 2 pieces together! The perfection loop is also my choice too! If you know how to make the perfection loop you already know how to make the Jack Miller knot…the tag end just goes in tru in a different location! I switched from the Davey knots about 10 years or so ago to the Jack Miller knot and have yet to break a fly off at that knot! Been fly fishing and tying flys for over 50 years!
Tom... great video. I would add one more knot for tying on a fly... especially small dry flies: The Turl Knot. It's a simple slip knot that helps dry flies turn over properly. This is Brian from Twin Falls, Idaho.
1. Clinch knot 2. Davy knot 3. Surgions knot 4. Uni or nail knot ( depends on what I'm tying braid or leader to fly line) Nice tutorial Tom love your vids.👍
A blood knot is just as good as a surgeons but is far, far superior for a dropper. Why? Because on a surgeons the dropper runs parallel to the tippet while on a blood knot, the dropper is perpendicular to the tippet
OK for the surgeons knot , but not for the clinch knot and the Perfect loop,both are breaking to easily ! Use instead the Orvis knot to tie tour fly and a twisted dubbel loop knot to make a loop.
Sometimes a video is so simple it just might work. 90% of knot videos are usually so complex that they require maximum dexterity and vision and give you probably a 10% better knot. I’ll take simple and effective any day of the week. The only not I will also recommend is a Uni knot. And this is one I use to tie a small piece of tippet for a dropper rig. Such an effective knot and can be used also in place of a surgeon not when joining two lines. But I find myself doing the surgeon knot especially when I’m waist deep in the river and being pushed around a bit lol
My advice is do not put the leader in your mouth unless you have had giardia and are fine with it. Spit on it. Also one variation on clinch is to twist the fly vs wrapping the tag end....still 6 turns of course. It’s easier for me to control in all light and weather.
Clinched knot and triple surgeon, just like doctor ordered! Only two knots I use, basically. (clinch to tie fly to the tippet and second to tie dropper fly to the tippet)
Nothing scientific here but i use I use an SC knot or double uni for tippet to leader as I found with very light tippet Surgeons can break at hook set due to the twisted line.
Using a 1mm tippet ring, I attach leadership TR, then attach tippet to TR. If I want a tag for a dropper, just use a longer section of tippet material to leave a 6 or 8" end after I tie a clinch knot. Simple and easy, the 1mm TR is almost neutral buoyancy.
I always start with a Pitzen Knot as I've never had one fail once tied correctly, but lately my 5X tippet had been breaking when I seat the knot. After one failed attempt I go with the Clinch Knot, because I'm not wasting this expensive tippet!
you left out the nail knot. i find the nail knot goes thru the rod guides much nicer than the loop to loop attachment of the leader and the fly line. your opinion please
I don't like the clinch, I use a snell knot tool. the snell knot is far superior, especially for smaller flies and tippet. the other two I use all the time.
Thanks Tom, I love watching these videos. This goes to show that you can always learn something new. I've flyfished for 42 years (NZ). I will be adding the surgeons knot to my toolkit. It's much simpler and quicker than what I have been doing all of these years to join a leader and tippet 👍
I use all three of these knots. They’re very easy to tie, and they are effective. You can’t go wrong with them.
Thank you sir. Very timely, too.
Very good video and good viewer comments here. I mainly fish for great lakes run fish. The three I tie are a nail knot for Fly line to tippet, double surgeons for section to section, and a Palomar from tippet to fly (if the eye is big enough to double through) . I think i'll go to the triple surgeons. One more pass through.The surgeons has been my most common breaking point.
Like your knots! The clinch knot works best in small diameter monofilament line tied on hooks that are not too different from the size of the hook's wire. It does have the benefit of easy creation and uses less leader. The Uni knot has been my multi purpose go to for years. Perfection Loop knots are so simple and failure proof that they have no real replacement for me. Thanks for this revisit of knots presented in the Orvis Learning center.
These are the three main knots I use. As you say Tom they're all you need to know.
I’m just learning fly fishing, but I’ve been spinning reel fishing for years. I only use 2 knots for everything! I thought I’d have to learn 8 different knots when i first started fishing. You’re absolutely right about it being intimidating. The knots I use are clinch knot, and surgeons loop. The only other times I use different knots is if I have to attach line to line, and that one I have to look up every time lol
Thanks, Tom! Outstanding. Keep it simple when on the stream.
I fish the Elk in WV where we fish really small flies. So the Davie knot comes in handy. But yep the surgeon’s knot a perfection are mandatory. Well done.
great lesson. When I first started fishing the "improved clinch" know was recommended. It proved prone to loosening. Thanks
I prefer the uni knot. Even with leaders I use a uni to uni knot. It’s a very simple knot to learn.
I find the double uni sits more evenly. Surgeons knot can tend to kink the smaller diameter line
Yup,uni does it all.
Uni all the way. Dave Whitlock wrote a great article about it six or seven years ago but I'd already been using it awhile. it just confirmed what I already found out. simplicity. as an edit I use a non slip mono not when necessary and surgeon knot when I gotta rebuild a leader in low light lol but the uni is really optimum.
My favorites are the barrel, your clinch, left handed turrell, and blood knot. I have my own knot, simple knot on leader with 5 half hitches. I only use 8lb leader which is soft enough to run through the eyes. Released numerous large salmon on this leader and knots. Nothing over 43 inches Atlanta salmon and sea run trout are all I fish.
The Thumbnail for this vid looks like I'm about to get told a ghost story.
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Amen Brother !! #14 EHC for me please ,#16 nymph dropper !! 🇺🇸 🐟 💯 😎
2nnd time I have watched this, still useful.
The Orvis knot is as fast but more secure than the Clinch or improved Clinch knot.
I rarely use a tippet and tie my fly directly to leader material. Simply because 1) quick and easy 2) fine tippet material I have such a difficult time handling. Most leaders and fly lines these days (at least what I buy from Orvis) already have loops in them and are simple to attach. I just wish I could get better tying the clinch knot on those tiny #16 hooks. I can barely see them. :)
I thought Tippet was to help bring the line diameter back down after damaging your tapered leader.
@@toxic1698 yes, tippet should be used to get a finer diameter tippet section closer to the fly. Avoid tying on thicker diameter near the fly ..... that would make casting difficult..... fly won’t want to unfurl properly.
when showing the tieing, i dont need footage of this man speaking, i need to see his hands
I would also add the Albright knot.
you should definitely add the Davy Wotton . Clinch knot is no good for fishing little flies, too clunky. If I am fishing anything smaller than a fourteen ( which is most of the time) it is a DW knot every time. Any dries smaller than a 14 also get the DW.
I find that the clinch know often kinks my flouro and makes flies (especially dry flies) more noticeable. Am I doing something wrong with my knot? Does this happen to anyone else?
Be careful when you draw it through the hook eye that you don't scrape it against the eye of the hook. That is what kinks your tippet.
You. Just not fish streamers…My my 3…
Improved Clinch Knot
Surgeons Knot
Non Slip Mono Loop/Kreh Loop(different names, same knot…for tying on any streamers)
Can tie a perfection loop but so rarely use it or need it, was surprised it was mentioned…other three used daily every time I fish.
There is only one knot I have ever used or NEEDED to use on trout streams. Simple clinch knot is all anybody needs, Full stop
Try the double Davey knot this season and report back ;)
@@gregb8824 Why? What will that knot do that the simple clinch knot WONT do?
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Fast... easy... strong...
Music too loud
Here is a vid about a knot…nah, you don’t need to see it. Much better for you to watch dude’s lips move while doing it.
Probably a good info but a terrible camera work. Thank you
Why the triple surgeons and not a Blood Knot ??? I have come to depend on the blood knot and it never fails when tied correctly. Not the easiest knot to tie, however. Is there a reason aside from simplicity that you prefer the triple surgeon? Thanks, Cpl. Hood @SHHFishing, Single Hook Hogs Fishing ( TH-cam )
Good stuff as usually. I like the surgeon’s and the perfection loop. But I’ve learned to love the double Davey. Thank you
Great video!
I've found the clinch knot finicky so switched to a pitzen knot for dries. It's visual and audible confirmations are reassuring.
And because the pitzen is stronger I've been forced to learn the triple surgeons as I generally break off somewhere along my length of tippet or leader.
Any wet flies get a non-slip loop knot.
Gonna put the perfection in my to-learn list as I use an albright for leader to line connections.
Tom thanks for this! I most heartily agree. I would add the non-slip loop knot or Kreh knot - very useful for tying on streamers and articulated flies.
Hey, Tom. Thanks for another great video. You are one of the premier fly fishing teachers anywhere! You simplify topics that make fly fishing so much more enjoyable and do it so humbly. Your books are also so wonderful to read. Thank you!!!!
Nice stuff.I have been making rods for many many years in Taiwan and China Weihai. Now I am very interested in fly fishing and start tying flys.BTW, I have watched a lot of your shows. It's very helpful to me.Thank you.
I think this is just so practical and logical, especially as I'm just starting out as a fly fisherman (I've fished every other method). Will make my life so much easier! Three knots: one for attching flies, one for joining lines, and one for when you might need a loop. Perfect! Thank you!
Beginner here, With enough pulling power I can always destroy my clinch knots.
Sometime I'm pulling real hard but it always comes lose.
Any ideas to fix this? :D
the clinch knot isnt working for me, fly falls/breaks off after the second or third cast.... im about out of flies and cant figure out why... im doing the knot exactly as specified... five times around the line then back thru the loop and cinch tight... so far has not worked at all... im brand new to this so idk whats wrong, ive never had this issue with other types of fishing rods/lures... i have been fishing my whole life, just not fly fishing...
my rod didnt come with any "tippet", just fly line and leader.... whats tippet? and whats it for? do i need tippet to make it secure?
Dang ... I can't see the X7 tippet line (with 200 reading glasses) and I don't like fluorocarbon for the tippet line ...
With the clinch knot I like to go thru the first loop then come back thru the big loop then back thru the first loop then pull tight. I promise the line will break before the knot. I've always called it the fisherman's knot
A simpler clinch knot
Tag end through the eye
Right hand holds tag end and standing line with fly dangling
Put left index finger into loop against fly
Rotate left wrist in either direction twisting the tag end around the standings line 5-6 turns
With your left index finger and thumb reach through the loop and grab the tag end and pull it back out of the loop.
Moisten the knot and pull the knot tight.
Good stuff! Double davy here, flies smaller than let's say 18, the normal davy. Find them much smaller knots than the clinch and knotable with a tiny amount of tippet length. Streamer I use micro snaps with double davy or for small Streamers the non slip loop knot. The other two I use also, perfection loop and triple surgeons
Just learned about the "Davy" and it's becoming my favorite for trout/grayling. Looking forward to salmon season to see how it stands up to kings and silvers.
Learned about the Davy and Double Davy last year and I agree it's such a great knot. I don't think I have one fail on me over 60+ days on the water
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Tight Lines!
One of the most important things i got from this video is, you always have to suck on these knots..
I hate tying perfection loops, so I tie a surgeon's loop instead. Not as pretty, but I'm less likely to throw everything in the river out of frustration.
Question for everyone!! How often do I replace my leader? With the surgeon knot you lose some everyone you tie tippet on right? Can someone explain 😅
i like the video great tip , im just starting out in fly fishing, how can the add a dropper without pulling the fly through ?
Good knots and knowledge. Horrible demonstration, you cant see how they are being tied at all with how it was shot
I do a sextuple surgeons knot when I am attaching fluorocarbon to braid
I think the camera work isn’t helpful to understanding.
The triple surgeons knot was a true lifesaver back when I first learned it. It is super easy and fail safe when properly tied
Nail knots cast better. Anytime im nymphing or streamers, i cut the loop
Both of the first 2 knots have been very problematic for me with anything thinner than 3x. Now I tie an orvis knot for anything that isn’t a streamer and a non-slip loop for anything that needs to swim. I’ve had very consistent performance with those 2.
This is GREAT advice...I rarely use more than 3 or 4 different knots...
I love your tutorials. Straight forward and simple. Pick your knots,
Hey Tom ! I bet you didn’t get to use your clinch knot on the Skeena
Show the tying of the knot, not the guy tying the knot please.
I could see the knot tying demonstration just fine..
The actual part where you show how to tie the knots was very poorly done.
Need to practice the Perfection. I use the other 2 regularly. Thanks Tom!
I have used your knots from day one for 40 years, the best one is tippet to tippet ,its fast and strong and your right back on the water. I found the style for the knots in the orvis leader package.
The only 3 knots I know how to tie. What a relief 😌
As a salt fly and softbaits fisher….Lefties loop!
Can you just show me the knots already? 😂
I learned the perfection loop as the easiest way to attach a saltwater fly as it gives the fly some good play in the loop. Once you get used to tying it, it’s one of the easiest knots to tie IMO
Because I did years of Bass fishing with spinning gear, I tied the Trilene Knot, but it had 2 problems with flies. First, it requires you to send the line thru the eye twice. Sometimes because of smaller flies, it cant be done. And second, it had a tendency to slip apart on lighter tippets. So the clinch knot is very similar and works well. Just re-tie your knot often if you've had fish tugging on it. (Which is what we All want)
What are your thoughts on tying a nail knot to the fly?
I use the Orvis knot. It's easy to tie in the cold and I find I don't waste tippet.
Indeed,you can make the knot with a very large loop, but need only a very small free end.
The knot is also much stronger and reliable than a blood knot. You also can use it to attach your tippet to the last loop of your leader. Your tippet never breaks at this knots,but at windknots in your tippet
1 knot is all you need, the clinch knot is enough with modern tapered leaders which just get replaced and fly lines that have a loop built in...been using only that one for past 20 years and didn't even know its name...knots and casting are hugely overrated in fly fishing circles, like obscure stats in baseball.
Nice demo and as always, your presentation style and tone are so soothing and easy to follow.
One of my first trips to a fly shop was for help with knots. Rusty Gates was at the counter of his lodge that day and I remember the somewhat amused look on his face when he saw a couple of my “Better” knots I brought with me. He pulled down a very inexpensive Tie-Fast tool and said “this is all you need. Follow the instructions inside.” Being a bit desperate I took his advice to heart. It’s a single process with very slight variations that does everything I’ve ever needed. I tested my Tie Fast nail knots with a digital scale against my own blood knots and clinch knots and surgeons knots. Only my surgeons knots came close to the breaking strength of the Tie Fast nail knots.
Once in awhile I still use a surgeons knot to save a little time and change a tippet section but 99 pct of my knots are on the Tie Fast. Easier in cold conditions and stronger than other knots I tie.
I use a tiefast for double nail knots on dry fly tippet. It can be easier in cold weather than doing a blood knot hand tied with frozen digits.
I don't disagree, but a nail knot and a blood knot are worth learning, too. I'm guessing they've been phased out some by gadgets or something, but I'm sure they still have value.
Only 2 knots needed... double surgeons knot for tippet to tippet connections .... 16 - 20 knot for tying on flies... much better knot than the cinch knot
Another enthusiastic vote for the pitzen knot for tippet to fly. I also use it for tippet to tippet ring. I can’t understand why they’re not used more universally. They are one of the strongest knots, are easy to tie in the field, and the tactile “pop” they feedback when tied gives you 100% confidence it was tied correctly. That level of assurance isn’t replicated by any other knot.
Davey knot is where it's at
Sorry to disagree but the clinch knot is far inferior to the Jack Miller knot which some rate at near 100% line strength!
The Davey knots are close seconds!! I agree that the triple surgeons knot is a great knot for joining
2 pieces together! The perfection loop is also my choice too! If you know how to make the perfection loop
you already know how to make the Jack Miller knot…the tag end just goes in tru in a different location!
I switched from the Davey knots about 10 years or so ago to the Jack Miller knot and have yet to break
a fly off at that knot! Been fly fishing and tying flys for over 50 years!
Tom... great video. I would add one more knot for tying on a fly... especially small dry flies: The Turl Knot. It's a simple slip knot that helps dry flies turn over properly. This is Brian from Twin Falls, Idaho.
1. Clinch knot
2. Davy knot
3. Surgions knot
4. Uni or nail knot ( depends on what I'm tying braid or leader to fly line)
Nice tutorial Tom love your vids.👍
A blood knot is just as good as a surgeons but is far, far superior for a dropper. Why? Because on a surgeons the dropper runs parallel to the tippet while on a blood knot, the dropper is perpendicular to the tippet
OK for the surgeons knot , but not for the clinch knot and the Perfect loop,both are breaking to easily !
Use instead the Orvis knot to tie tour fly and a twisted dubbel loop knot to make a loop.
Sometimes a video is so simple it just might work. 90% of knot videos are usually so complex that they require maximum dexterity and vision and give you probably a 10% better knot. I’ll take simple and effective any day of the week.
The only not I will also recommend is a Uni knot. And this is one I use to tie a small piece of tippet for a dropper rig. Such an effective knot and can be used also in place of a surgeon not when joining two lines. But I find myself doing the surgeon knot especially when I’m waist deep in the river and being pushed around a bit lol
My advice is do not put the leader in your mouth unless you have had giardia and are fine with it. Spit on it. Also one variation on clinch is to twist the fly vs wrapping the tag end....still 6 turns of course. It’s easier for me to control in all light and weather.
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I unintentionally taught myself a clinch knot for my spinning reel except that I wrap 7 times. Has yet to fail me.
Clinched knot and triple surgeon, just like doctor ordered! Only two knots I use, basically. (clinch to tie fly to the tippet and second to tie dropper fly to the tippet)
Nothing scientific here but i use I use an SC knot or double uni for tippet to leader as I found with very light tippet Surgeons can break at hook set due to the twisted line.
Using a 1mm tippet ring, I attach leadership TR, then attach tippet to TR. If I want a tag for a dropper, just use a longer section of tippet material to leave a 6 or 8" end after I tie a clinch knot. Simple and easy, the 1mm TR is almost neutral buoyancy.
I think if I had those Orvis Pro Waders I could tie knots better. I'll let my wife know. Good video 👍🏻
Exact three I use, gives me confidence that I'm doing SOMETHING right at least!
I always start with a Pitzen Knot as I've never had one fail once tied correctly, but lately my 5X tippet had been breaking when I seat the knot.
After one failed attempt I go with the Clinch Knot, because I'm not wasting this expensive tippet!
Hahahaha!
He needed a back shot of
Vincent Price.
God Bless 'em both..
Would have been goofd if the camera was focused on the knot tying and not on his face all the time.
7:24 I love the way the hand is in the way of the most crucial part of the knot
you left out the nail knot. i find the nail knot goes thru the rod guides much nicer than the loop to loop attachment of the leader and the fly line. your opinion please
Enjoyed the video, thanks! A Surgeon`s Knot and the Palomar Knot are my go to knotts...
I much prefer the Blood Knot when making my leaders.
I don't like the clinch, I use a snell knot tool. the snell knot is far superior, especially for smaller flies and tippet. the other two I use all the time.
👍👍👍 Tom is the fly fishing Guru… I’ve learned so much from his videos and podcasts
Tom I am a big fan of your video’s. Your a good instructor.
Thanks Tom, I love watching these videos. This goes to show that you can always learn something new. I've flyfished for 42 years (NZ). I will be adding the surgeons knot to my toolkit. It's much simpler and quicker than what I have been doing all of these years to join a leader and tippet 👍
So what are you replacing with the surgeons knot?
All three are >essential< knots for me. Thanks for the video Tom! Tight lines!
Thanks Tom these are the exact three i use all the time. Thanks for the Birthday Video!!
We love Tom! Have almost every book he wrote here! Learned so much! Thank you Tom!
Tom is the best. I would thoroughly enjoy a day being guided by him someplace in Maine or Wyoming.
Great simple video.
Takes the mystery out of the business end of the line.