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For me, the second episode of season 3 was probably the weakest. It was still really good, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it was the weakest for me, followed by episode 3. The other seven episodes were great!!!
I actually hope they develop that further if they do get another season. He's an engineer! You're telling me he can't design a personal force field that hugs his skin and reduces the pressure she can put on it?
Especially, if you take into account that The Orville seasons are very short. 36 episodes in 3 seasons. Season 1 of TOS: 29 episodes. TNG and DS9 had ~25 episodes per season. So we basically just had 1.5 seasons of the Orville. Cmon, we'll watch another 200 episodes...
@@chrisko6439 Yeah, network shows were 43 minutes traditionally, as was Orville season 1. Season 2 was 48 minutes for some reason. But season 3 was 60-86 minutes.
I never comment, but I've been watching the third season of Orville and I want to tell everyone how great it is, I want to advertise it somehow, I want it to be lavished with awards. It's got so many layers I'm constantly astounded. Wowzers. Congrats to all those who put this incredible season together, what an achievement.
With the way s3 played out, it really shows this show could have the same type of very memorable and impacful episode that we all reminisce about from the likes of TNG and DS9.
I understand your early reservations about Ensign Burke, but the way I look at it is that she was basically dealing with her own version of what Commander Sisko experienced at Wolf 359. I have a feeling that if Commander Sisko had been on the same ship as Hugh right after that, he probably would have had a massive chip on his shoulder. Like you, I loved Ensign Burke's arc in 'Domino'. Such a powerful way for that character to go out. My favorite episode of the season was 'Twice in a Lifetime'. I really liked the way it addressed the issue of staying in the past, with both Mercer and Malloy having solid, understandable points. In the end, Mercer had to be almost cruel to Malloy in order to follow the rules and avoid the possibility of polluting the timeline. It was a tragic ending for Malloy with some very nice nuance that made it hard to completely side with Mercer or Malloy on the issue of remaining in the past. I'm a little dubious about the episode 'Shadow Realms'. I can easily see the villainous threat being a one-off that's never referenced again (assuming The Orville is renewed for more seasons). It would be the parasite aliens in the TNG season 1 episode 'Conspiracy' or the abducting aliens in the TNG season 6 episode 'Schisms' all over again. My least favorite episode of the season was 'Morality Paradox'. Pretty mediocre in my view. It could have been really interesting but was let down by a "just kidding, they were never really in danger" ending. Also, I didn't like the jab at spirituality toward the end, as though people who believe in a spiritual deity are somehow lesser than.
I’ve watched the Star Trek franchises since 1969 while in college and all the subsequent spin-off’s and movies, and like all trekker’s loved everything! And then came the Orville; season 1 and two were mildly entertaining but season 3 went well past my expectations!! So much so I can easily say I like it more than Star Trek..,. That’s saying a lot. If they manage to come back for another season, they will be around a long time! Make it happen Seth!!
There really were some GREAT episodes in the third season. They found the right balance between humor and drama too. It would be a SHAME if the show never sees a season 4 now that it's hit its stride.
My hope is we see this show continue. Because season 3 was a home run and set up this show to continue build each character and storyline. So many stories still unresolved.
Great writing is when I see something, don't like it but at the end I realize not liking it may have been intentional and nonetheless it was BRILLIANT!!!
I'm totally fine with your main gripes - 1) Mercer taking supporting role like Picard in ensemble cast of TNG; 2) some felt too much like TNG - which is perfect! ;)
One thing I liked was the Union was finally forced to reject a race that was only tolerated because they produced weapons. Even Klyden could not remain a Maclean citizen after Topa was almost murdered,
I think a moment that goes unappreciated in 'Domino' is that Issac, throughout the season, has been very passive and not rising to baits and violence (the closest being Kylden). There were a few moments in the series where I'm looking to Issac to DO something, we know he's very strong and has inbuilt weapons but he never uses them. That's until Ensign gets threatened and he pops open the eye lazers. That hit me in the feels man, I understand it's because he knows she's the only one who can fix the machine so logically needs protecting, but he could have got those out at any time.
This is true. Even when Klyden tried to stop him, he didn’t resort to violence unless he absolutely had to. Which was much different than what we saw from Primary.
Orville is a sci-fi safe space for people who are comforted by the familiar. Orville literally redid episodes from previous Trek series (like the TOS episode with the wayward generational ship inhabited by people who don't know they're inside a ship; the VOY episode with the planet where time passes more quickly and the arrival of the ship affects the cultural development of the planets inhabitants, etc).and copied characters like Worf and Data. It's basically TNG on a different ship. If that's your thing, more power to you, but the idea that Orville is a "masterpiece" is a huuuuge stretch by any definition of the word. At best, it's an updated reboot of a decades-old. While it's certainly enjoyable at times, it doesn't really bring anything new to the table
I have been impressed with the third season of Orville - yes, out of necessity a much darker point. But I think that it was not unexpected that it would have done. I believe that Season 4 might add more to this portion. It has given both Discovery and Strange New Worlds' a very stiff competition. I believe that more is still to come. From Orville and Season 4.
I really thought the second episode was uninspired like typical got to ship get inflected bring by infection they could of at least had hazmat suits and decontamination protocols. Especially given it was clearly an organic looking yet seemly empty/dead it was like watching them explore the ships in Aliens or Species 8472 but more predictable. The monster really wasn't interesting and there was no B plot or character development besides Doctors old flame.
That was my first thought. They're in an unknown region of space, even the Krill are afraid of it, the approach what looks like a biological space station & they don't even wear environmental suits? How dumb can they possibly be?
the main backstory gives me Babylon 5 or even Battlestar Galactica vibes, they really did the right decision with the story and by making it more serious + the cgi and overall atmosphere is top notch
I absolutely loved Season 3. Personally, I loved Mortality Paradox, but really just because I absolutely love stories where people are trapped in a world that caters itself to force them to move forward through the pain of it --- Like, Mortality Paradox felt almost like an Orville version of one of the more tragedy-driven Silent Hill games, or maybe Doctor Who's 'Heaven Sent'. If there was one thing, I don't know if we needed 2 episodes surrounding Topa -- I pretty much loved both A Tale of Two Topas and Midnight Blue, but having them both in New Horizons meant that literally 20% of the episodes were dedicated to Topa's arc. Honestly, I would've vastly preferred if they had these together in the same Season if it were the 14-episode length of Season 2.
First episode was excellent. Then we had two so-so ones. And then we had seven in a row that just knocked it out of the park every single time. And it's not the Captain's job generally to do stuff. It's the Captain's job to ensure that *somebody* does it. They don't make the little decisions and run the ship day-to-day, they're there for the big judgements, the tricky ones. It's also a reflection on how comfortable Ed and Kelly's professional relationships now are that he is happy to delegate so much of the doing to her. And sometimes - the scene where they hide in a gas giant and fake destruction springs to mind - you can see the dynamic switch. Ed has the plan so gives the orders... but as soon as the decisions are done and the path is clear, Kelly starts giving the orders again ("Get us out of here" I think it was!). In Star Trek it'd always be the Captain giving that order, but their command dynamic is much more integrated. You also never see them argue, even when tricky moral points are at issue e.g. how to deal with Gordon. The writers never express dilemmas via an Ed-Kelly argument. Which is why it doesn't feel wrong in the finale - they are comfortable with each other again. Mind you, in any season 4, Kelly is probably overdue for a command of her own and Ed for a bigger ship. Something JMS said about B5. No officer stays in a post for five years, not unless their career is dead dead dead.
wow I didn't know you lived in the 24th century, But Kelly likes working with her ex-Husband or she wouldn't had asked for that post and plus its just TV show your trying pull reality into fiction LOL
One interesting thing I learned recently is there was supposed to be another episode of the season filmed but was made impossible due to covid. Do you think that episode would have made the season better or upset the balance?
That's an interesting question. I think 10 was perfect. That might explain why some episodes felt like super long one episodes (or movies, in a sense).
s3 was my favorite, think Ed pulling away and focusing on the other character made me like the show more. Hopefully they get the clear to do a season 4 and maybe more.
I thought Mercer being less the center of attention was a good creative move. Alot more of the cast had literally red meat to chew for dialogue. Great writing and will look good on their IMDB.
I, for one, loved what they did for the Moclans. This is a perfect representation of Karl Popper's tolerance principle. You should tolerate different ways of thinking, but you can't tolerate intolerance, or the tolerance will be destroyed. This is also a good indication of how people who are stuck in traditions and prejudice (aka conservatism), it doesn't take much for them to ally with the religious fanatics and xenophobes (i.e. fascists), perfectly represented as the Moclans did what they threatened the Union to do since season 2: Rejoining the Krill in an alliance.
Just finished S3. Woah did they really grow the beard. They completely dropped the parody in favor of the TNG mantle. It's a shame Paramount never understood what made TNG so legendary, but at least we have this.
Bring back the Orville! Season 3 was gold. We need more shows as good as this one! Anyone at Disney listening? This season 3 of Orville ranks up there alongside some of the best Trek shows on Paramount+.
Show reminds me of supernatural in the sense that the first season was fun and comfy but as it plays out it becomes very deep and serious. Id enjoy a little more comedy every now and then like the first season but its still very good.
The low point for me was episode 2. They refusal to wear space suits on strange planets or stations and the inability to sit down in a shuttle, but to stand behind the pilots is aggravating me everytime.😊
For me it was "Twice in a life time". I really didn't like how harsh their treatment of Gordon was. They erased him and his family with almost no second thought, and the bit where Keyali shows up at the door? it was cold and evil. In every other episode they break/bend the rules and risk annihilation for Topa, Isaac, Kelly...etc, but there? nope. What made it worse is that Ed has repeatedly went against the law stated in the episode about preserving the timeline; like in season 1 with Pria. She told him that they all died and that in order to preserve the timeline they had to go with her, and he didn't. As a whole though, I LOVED Season 3 and am desperate for more.
One thing I love about the show is how the Krill feel like a society of Catholic Crusaders to the Klingons Warrior Society. Just my opinion about the Trek likeness
This show has become what Star Trek could have been. Picard season 3 is actually pretty awesome, and I’m enjoying every second of it. I don’t know if it makes up for the first two season, but then again TNG began with two crappy seasons. But “The Orville” has matured into one hell of a show.
#HelloThere I'm a new fan of the Orville, I started watching it as soon as was presented in the Disney plus, I'm a star trek, star wars and Sci-fi adventures, action movies and I was so impressed with is series. Yes nit all the time was too upbeat, but still was very interesting the content, I do like it very much and I hope Mr. Seth MacFarlane makes at least 3 mire season. He is an exceptional story teller and I want more!!
Only episode I didn’t like was the one where they found this alien ship in the middle of nowhere. Instead of going inside with hazmat suits or any kind of security detail, they just went in like it was no big deal. Not surprisingly someone got infected and nearly infected the entire crew.
Only issue I had with the season opener is that it seems like it should have been shown 1 or 2 episodes after the 2 parter Identity but that was midway through season 2 and there were like 4 or 5 episodes after the Kaylon attack before seasons end and there was no issues with anyone and Isaac. The season 3 opener just seemed out of place cause it's like all is hu KY dory after Identity part 2 but then for the opener to make sense then it would be like the last 4 or so episodes of season 2 never happened. I hope this makes sense, I guess that to me it was just a. It jarring to seemingly be done with the issue but then go right back into it to start the season.
I absolutely loved season 3, although i have a lot of nitpicks, i don't think any of them detract from how over all good the product was these season! i would say, if there were any episodes i thought could have used another draft, it would have been episode two. the premise was banger, and the foundation solid, i mean, the idea of encountering a Krell "Demon" is so cool! *Spoilers for episode 2 of season 3* that they were ultimately just basically spider zombies just felt like a huge let down to me. Although i think space zombies can be a really cool plot, the show might have done better in my opinion, to have just made them actual zombies. As to the demon aspect, when they reveled that, for reason never explained, this region of space has no starlight, i was hoping for something more abstract for the villain. Could have been a great call back to that season one episode, where the doctor says "the gaps between the stars look empty, but there not." (no spoilers, but i recognize why they wouldn't call back to that)
i gotta be honest with yall, when i remember TNG i had overall great memories, but the individual moments weren't as remarkable as the ones in The Orville. Most TNG episodes are silly but overall a fun ride, but the orville makes a point of making ONLY great content. Veredict: The Orville is the supreme star trek, and this is nothing bad to say! (although i miss the higher jokes rate on earlier seasons)
One thing that I can't get out of my head is whenever characters are in a space battle, all they do is speak in declarative statements and idk...it's not well done. Specifically when they're in the 'fighters' in the last big battle.
The Moclan story has been going on literally from the beginning of the show and I really like the idea that a alien species that was so intrigal to the Union was slowly discovered to be incompatible with Union ideals? How far would you appease them out of necessity add war on two fronts and you have a problem and a good story.
S03 obviously have beautiful writing, and it IS Star Trek now, but I really miss some of the lighthearted gags from the previous seasons. S03 has like literally one joke per episode- even some classic Star Trek episodes had more humour displayed than that.
Not sure how everything went down behind the scenes, but it definitely felt like they KNEW this was it, and they did their best to cram every single cool Idea they could think of into 10 short episodes. If this had been a standard 22-episode season of STTNG, for example, Charlie's arc could have developed more slowly... episodes 2 and 3 would have been fine "weekly filler" episodes to sit comfortably around the big plot episodes. As it stood, even though they weren't "bad," they seemed weird and a bit out of place. With only 10 episodes, then. everything feels extremely rushed and action-packed, which can be both a GOOD and a BAD thing. Don't get me wrong -- I still really enjoyed the season. I wish the show would have had a bit more time to breathe, though. Here's hoping we get more THE ORVILLE at some point in the future.
Here in Brazil its hard find a place talking about The Orville, becouse STAR+ is new streaming service by Disney and becouse is splited from Disney+ so many peaple cant fint this gold. To me Lammar need show more up (allways beside Isaac) the new girl give me only bad reactions, becouse the actress are to beatifull in her moments, she moments in screen, don fit well. The lines of her character are good, simple enougth to us understud she is a duchbag with a good hearth. The introduction of figthers are so good to me. This expend the Orville World, and the new props, like Isaac outfit, and the shuttle are some ot the hits of this season. The end of the season, put us to face machism and religious withe extremist. That clever becouse they question about the Earth Union, ''what is correct?'' in same time when they say ''wee cant just put your laws above that cultures, its easy asking why not becouse both are two bad culture, but if they find one so close the Union in this days, who they can negociate progress? A so many questions, so many new adventures can come in new Season.
I thought it was a pretty great series overall. The only episode that really didn't work for me was Shadow Realms. It made absolutely no sense to me that they chose not to wear EV suits while exploring the space station. As I recall, the space station hadn't been explored by any sentient life forms for thousands or possibly millions of years, so who knows what sort of life threatening substances a person could be exposed to. It also didn't make sense to me that the infected admiral wasn't put inside a force field to protect the other crew members from his infection. There was no telling what he could have done! It seems to me that if the characters in your story need to make completely illogical choices just so that the main idea of your story can play out, then you really need to go back to the drawing board and start again to make your ideas play out organically. Lastly, for me personally, I didn't really feel compelled to rewatch many of the episodes from this series. One viewing seemed to be enough for most of them, which is kind of strange for me seeing as this is the only tv show that I actually like at the moment. Oh well, I certainly hope we get a fourth series, that's for sure!
I loved the season overall, but my least favorite episode is Domino. Burke being gay was really obvious (that scene in the shuttlepod gives off HUGE "Mom, Dad, this is my roommate" energy), so I had a sinking feeling in my stomach the entire season that they were going to lean on tired old tropes about gay trauma and burying your gays; and damned if that's not exactly what they did. I wouldn't have minded as much if they could have at least shown us some of Burke's joy with Amanda in a flashback or something, but nope, it's just another story about a gay person being miserable until death is a bittersweet relief from the agony of life. I don't think it was intentional or malicious, but it's how her story turned out, regardless of anyone's intent.
@@NaterTot Episode 3. There's a difference between "Wow. I can't believe how much they packed into one episode" and "WTF are they doing now?" A lot of tangents. It was all over the place. Plus, stuff like a human and krill could conceive a child (who jumps to 6 years old) stretches my suspense of disbelief to the breaking point.
You kinda skipped over the hatred toward female by Borra people, the torture of a child and the vengence of her father wa chilling. Also the guy getting lost in the past, building a new life and family then having it stripped away without his knowledge just brutal. The Calon was so interesting when it was revealed Why that destroyed there creaters.
Like most people I’d obviously love more seasons of The Orville, but if that doesn’t end up happening then I feel at least the show was given a satisfying ending here.
My favorite episode of the season was the one you didn't like the most, and my least favorite episode of the season was the finale. Not a good way to end season 3 with a bunch of people sitting around talking about wedding planning, that should have been a mid-season episode
I agree Episode 3 was my least favorite of the season, to me felt like a serial numbers filed off version of the Supernatural episode Changing Channels. It has the same story beats. Our heroes were lured into a dangerous and constantly shifting fake world by a more powerful being from their past, complete with the fake out escape. Other than that it's a great season.
As much as I liked the show, I have to say the penultimate episode didn't really do it for me. I had several moments that just took me out, even though it was like grand in scale and action packed, it really needed some tweaks. For one, the Union going in to attack without waiting for the Keylon ships is dumb. Why not go together? Why let so many union ships die for no reason? Secondly, they join forces with the Keylon and mention that destroying the weapon is very much an option they're considering if they can't recover it, and they even take Keylon Prime with them, but nobody raises the point that once the weapon is gone/destroyed, the Keylon could immediately turn on them and kill them all. Sure the ending mentions this AFTER it's already been done when the Keylon decide to abandon their genocidal ways because they saw self-sacrifice for the cause, but seriously the fact that nobody even brought it up as a flaw in their plan is ridiculous, did they know ahead of time or expect that the Keylon would just not attack the moment the threat to their existence was removed? Thirdly, I found the union acting a bit out of character. Like, yeah okay they don't want the Keylon to be exterminated because that's genocide and it's wrong, so they want the weapon back, but then they go into a massive scale assault that results in countless deaths just to save the Keylon who very well could've extreminated all of them the moment the weapon is destroyed? It's not like the union to immediately jump to weapons instead of trying diplomatic approaches first, or a more covert/espionage/inflitration approach first. I know they wanted a big setpiece ship battle, but there needs to be a good reason behind those else they become meaningless. You could say, there's no time for it, but they never even bring up any reluctance towards killing Krill and Moklan ships and losing union ships. They're simultaneously anti-genocide/violence and very much going with a full frontal violent approach. As a very wise robot once said "They'll learn of our peaceful ways, BY FORCE!"
I actually felt that episode 10 was weak compared to the huge episodes that came before it. It was like an hour-long denouement for the show up to this point in case season 4 didn't happen.
I understand the enthusiasm for something one likes. Admittedly, I like The Orville for the most part, its easy on the eyes and a throw back to TNG years gone past. However, let us be clear, New Horizons is a vanity project gone mad! The episodes are WAY too long and over written to excess with multiple effects sequences that repeat themes such as approaching and descending toward planets, the same corridors and attack on a secret station played out twice in consecutive episodes.Then there is the loud musical fanfare which drowns out any hint at nuance. Seth McFarlane essentially removed himself from the season as a character so he could concentrate on directing, it is here where vanity pokes its ugly head with lingering reaction shots for commercial outros, the over use of CG and episodes that could be trimmed by a good editor down 15 or 20 minutes. Laborious viewing is NOT good television. Talk about fan service!
I liked the show ... but disliked the social justice stuff. The first episode was an awful start -- fortunately, the season as a whole was great. Loved the last two episodes! Hope they keep making more!
Try has I may I can’t get into like or understand this shows popularity 🤷🏻♂️ I like Seth but wish he would do ted 3 or a million ways to die in the west 2.
Charly was a welcome voice of dissent among a crew that is always so like minded. Klyden is the worst character and it was a mistake to bring him back with a contrived sudden turn around. He was so behind the Moclan way that he told his daughter to her face he wished she'd never been born and left her, but we're supposed to believe what happened suddenly changed his mind? It would have been more believable had he been a part of the kidnapping and planned murder. They should have let that character go before Charly, but they couldn't have furthered teh story how they wanted if they had done it differently
I did not like Episode 2. I am not a big fan of body horror. The tension of the entire crew potentially being "assimilated" into those creatures was uncomfortable and a bit tramatic. Granted, that was probably what they were going for. It just left a bad taste in my mouth and kept me from watching the rest of the series until the series was over. It also left the end of the episode without a relatively happy ending. Those people who were assimilated are gone. It was a good one off of TNG and the Borg. Hopefully, if they come back, they can skip the body horror when they face them again. Other than that, 10 out of 10.
So if no one has done this, watch new horizon with subtitles on, there's no way all of those "comments" were on accident lol "Expensive over budget orchestra music plays" "Epic theme that'll be in your playlist plays"
Seasons 1&2 were noteworthy and had a lot of humor but season 3 was just another bland Star Trek series in the timeframe of DS9 and Voyager. They need to bring back the Seth Macfarlane jokes for season 4. If I wanted to watch Star Trek, I’d watch one of the 4 current ST series out now
"cut the episodes down to 10" - damn that lazy trend. It's _everywhere._ How did we allow that to happen? We just expect, for any show, that it will have fewer than half the episodes shows used to have. And it won't stop there, it'll go down to 6 and 4.
I don’t find this lazy, at all. Honestly, quite the opposite. Studios would push for bigger seasons just to have more money and revenue brought in from advertisements. Thus, cutting budget down on episodes. Why so means shows had flashback episodes or episodes that were all shot in one place. Now they can tell a great story without feeling pressured. Not to mention, I believe the prior two seasons were 13 episodes at 42 minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see if the ten episodes ran over than those 13 episodes in total runtime.
@@NaterTot The universality gives it away. Everything, large and small, used to be 22-26 episodes. Now everything, large and small, is 8-10 episodes. This is not something reserved for particularly cinematic series. And getting something renewed is so ridiculously difficult too. Before, you'd make two or three seasons and then decide whether to renew. Now a show has to nail its audience right from what is effectively its first half-season. Lots of great series from the past would have been axed on that condition. And the decision to renew is inevitably so late that the anemic seasons come slower than one per year
You remember that next generation show that took 3 seasons just to get good? What about voyager that was mediocre at best? And DS9 that took a couple seasons to get it's stride. The orville stands toe to toe and betters most of that. Don't forget for a second that each of those ST shows had some horrible episodes well into the series.
I enjoyed s3 alot. I was expecting the hysterical anti woke mob to attack some of the story lines and create alot of hate, but it's been refreshingly positive on the whole.
You understated how garbage episode 3 was imo. I absolutely loved everything but 2 and 3. And I didn't dislike 2 either. It was alright. Episode 3? Straight to trashcan. And burn the trashcan afterwards.
This, well lets call it a review is quite sad, and missing so many points, that is feels more like sarcasm. This season is ...good? So, entire season the crew got themselves into every problem we found on screen. Their own choices and stupidity got em in the pinch every episode. And to top that off, main point of war vs Kaylons, was sorted by a gimick invented off screen ! ? That is the mark of the good season ?! Solving your main plot off screen !?
I’ve been looking at sci-fi series lately. That chic you called Kelly who’s on the clickbait is cute.. I like the graphics you exhibit, alien costume design & it sounds entertaining, but I hate the uniforms, & a couple of the dudes immediately hit me as dork poindexter. It just means that I’m going to have to try, I detest that about a lot of Hollywood. I just don’t see it, so for parts with acting, does it fit the role? I suppose I’m asking too much? Maybe Hollywood would prefer the swoons over Doe from Heavens Gate for easy character sales? So although you might love who put this together with a tip stick bow to their fame, I seriously question their credibility & gravitas for manliness. All that graphic, story plot, costume & alien design & this is the best uniform they could come up with? Clearly the babe’s attraction holds this together. They want to draw me & the kiddy’s in for a sit down in contrast with today’s dynamics to have a sob cry over a robot’s suicide.? Give me a break! Ya know I have a cousins with a wife who suffers ptsd from her a pet dying as a child, dog or cat, but I bet she’d really enjoy that..? Thanks for the info, I guess my mind’s made up then. I’ll pass.
Focusing far too much on Charlie's lesbian love interest was a bit of a drag imo. I get it's Hollywood and that GLAAD would be up their ass if there wasn't enough "gay representation", but her character arc would've been just as impactful if she was straight, or if she was saved by just a friend, or a sibling, or a mentor. The whole "I'm gay, look at me!" thing was just way too forced imo.
How? There were, like, two lines in the entire series that even referred to Charlie's romantic feelings. If that's too much for you, go back to the 1950s, caveman.
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For me, the second episode of season 3 was probably the weakest. It was still really good, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it was the weakest for me, followed by episode 3. The other seven episodes were great!!!
no worries keep at it, lets hope we get more stellar shows like the Orville
@@prismaticbeetle3194 I hope so!
@@NaterTot its sad how they don't plan on making more "The expanse" seasons
such a great show that was, and we are rly short on good sifi these days
The funniest running gag of S3 for me was the relationship between John LaMarr and Talla Keyali. I was dying every time Lamarr got injured.
Especially when it got more and more gruesome. At the end, he was a mess😂
I actually hope they develop that further if they do get another season. He's an engineer! You're telling me he can't design a personal force field that hugs his skin and reduces the pressure she can put on it?
LaMarr givin romantics adivices to Isaac, are more fun to me.
thats was my least favorite part of the season
@@carlotta4th full body forcefeild condom idea has entirely changed my mindset on this relationship because i want to see this.
I know I am preaching to the choir, but this show earned another season. More than Star Trek The Original Series, this show deserves a 4th season!
Here's hoping!
Especially, if you take into account that The Orville seasons are very short. 36 episodes in 3 seasons. Season 1 of TOS: 29 episodes. TNG and DS9 had ~25 episodes per season. So we basically just had 1.5 seasons of the Orville. Cmon, we'll watch another 200 episodes...
@@chrisko6439 Yes, and no. With Orville season 3 episodes clocking nearly 90 minutes, each one is basically two TNG episodes, so 10 is 20!
@@RachelAllcock Oh, didn't know that. Thanks!
@@chrisko6439 Yeah, network shows were 43 minutes traditionally, as was Orville season 1. Season 2 was 48 minutes for some reason. But season 3 was 60-86 minutes.
I never comment, but I've been watching the third season of Orville and I want to tell everyone how great it is, I want to advertise it somehow, I want it to be lavished with awards. It's got so many layers I'm constantly astounded. Wowzers. Congrats to all those who put this incredible season together, what an achievement.
I am glad you did. It means a lot to me. I really hope the show returns, in any capacity.
With the way s3 played out, it really shows this show could have the same type of very memorable and impacful episode that we all reminisce about from the likes of TNG and DS9.
everyone else may disagree but Voyager will always be my favorite.
It gave me my Hopeful future and best of humanity fix.
I understand your early reservations about Ensign Burke, but the way I look at it is that she was basically dealing with her own version of what Commander Sisko experienced at Wolf 359. I have a feeling that if Commander Sisko had been on the same ship as Hugh right after that, he probably would have had a massive chip on his shoulder.
Like you, I loved Ensign Burke's arc in 'Domino'. Such a powerful way for that character to go out.
My favorite episode of the season was 'Twice in a Lifetime'. I really liked the way it addressed the issue of staying in the past, with both Mercer and Malloy having solid, understandable points. In the end, Mercer had to be almost cruel to Malloy in order to follow the rules and avoid the possibility of polluting the timeline. It was a tragic ending for Malloy with some very nice nuance that made it hard to completely side with Mercer or Malloy on the issue of remaining in the past.
I'm a little dubious about the episode 'Shadow Realms'. I can easily see the villainous threat being a one-off that's never referenced again (assuming The Orville is renewed for more seasons). It would be the parasite aliens in the TNG season 1 episode 'Conspiracy' or the abducting aliens in the TNG season 6 episode 'Schisms' all over again.
My least favorite episode of the season was 'Morality Paradox'. Pretty mediocre in my view. It could have been really interesting but was let down by a "just kidding, they were never really in danger" ending. Also, I didn't like the jab at spirituality toward the end, as though people who believe in a spiritual deity are somehow lesser than.
I’ve watched the Star Trek franchises since 1969 while in college and all the subsequent spin-off’s and movies, and like all trekker’s loved everything! And then came the Orville; season 1 and two were mildly entertaining but season 3 went well past my expectations!! So much so I can easily say I like it more than Star Trek..,. That’s saying a lot. If they manage to come back for another season, they will be around a long time! Make it happen Seth!!
There really were some GREAT episodes in the third season. They found the right balance between humor and drama too. It would be a SHAME if the show never sees a season 4 now that it's hit its stride.
My hope is we see this show continue. Because season 3 was a home run and set up this show to continue build each character and storyline. So many stories still unresolved.
Great writing is when I see something, don't like it but at the end I realize not liking it may have been intentional and nonetheless it was BRILLIANT!!!
Completely agree!
When I consider how much crap is on TV the idea that season 4 is in question makes me angry, lol. This is why we can't have nice things!
Agreed. All you have to do is flip on Netflix or even Hulu. A lot of garbage reality crap. It’s easy to produce, unfortunately
Never cared for or watched Star Trek, and The Orville is still one of my favorite shows of all time.
I'm totally fine with your main gripes - 1) Mercer taking supporting role like Picard in ensemble cast of TNG; 2) some felt too much like TNG - which is perfect! ;)
I think it felt like TNG because of the isaac story line is very close to Data's ... if loki was 10 trillion people
One thing I liked was the Union was finally forced to reject a race that was only tolerated because they produced weapons. Even Klyden could not remain a Maclean citizen after Topa was almost murdered,
I think a moment that goes unappreciated in 'Domino' is that Issac, throughout the season, has been very passive and not rising to baits and violence (the closest being Kylden). There were a few moments in the series where I'm looking to Issac to DO something, we know he's very strong and has inbuilt weapons but he never uses them. That's until Ensign gets threatened and he pops open the eye lazers. That hit me in the feels man, I understand it's because he knows she's the only one who can fix the machine so logically needs protecting, but he could have got those out at any time.
This is true. Even when Klyden tried to stop him, he didn’t resort to violence unless he absolutely had to. Which was much different than what we saw from Primary.
Orville is a sci-fi safe space for people who are comforted by the familiar. Orville literally redid episodes from previous Trek series (like the TOS episode with the wayward generational ship inhabited by people who don't know they're inside a ship; the VOY episode with the planet where time passes more quickly and the arrival of the ship affects the cultural development of the planets inhabitants, etc).and copied characters like Worf and Data. It's basically TNG on a different ship. If that's your thing, more power to you, but the idea that Orville is a "masterpiece" is a huuuuge stretch by any definition of the word. At best, it's an updated reboot of a decades-old. While it's certainly enjoyable at times, it doesn't really bring anything new to the table
I have been impressed with the third season of Orville - yes, out of necessity a much darker point. But I think that it was not unexpected that it would have done. I believe that Season 4 might add more to this portion. It has given both Discovery and Strange New Worlds' a very stiff competition. I believe that more is still to come. From Orville and Season 4.
This show has demonstrated that classic Star Trek is something there is very much an audience for.
The Orville is like the offspring of Star Trek and Galaxy Quest.
I really thought the second episode was uninspired like typical got to ship get inflected bring by infection they could of at least had hazmat suits and decontamination protocols.
Especially given it was clearly an organic looking yet seemly empty/dead it was like watching them explore the ships in Aliens or Species 8472 but more predictable.
The monster really wasn't interesting and there was no B plot or character development besides Doctors old flame.
I agree. I included clips with the thought of mentioning that. I didn't find that entire episode that thrilling or memorable on revision.
That was my first thought. They're in an unknown region of space, even the Krill are afraid of it, the approach what looks like a biological space station & they don't even wear environmental suits? How dumb can they possibly be?
@@jimapplebee5322 I think they were setting up a future antagonist. Not thr greatest as a stand-alone episode though
The forming of the coalition of planets
Planetary union = earth alliance
Krill = Andorians
Kaylon = Vulcans
Moclan = Tellerites
I’d also make the case Moclan can be seen as Klingons too
the main backstory gives me Babylon 5 or even Battlestar Galactica vibes, they really did the right decision with the story and by making it more serious + the cgi and overall atmosphere is top notch
I absolutely loved Season 3. Personally, I loved Mortality Paradox, but really just because I absolutely love stories where people are trapped in a world that caters itself to force them to move forward through the pain of it --- Like, Mortality Paradox felt almost like an Orville version of one of the more tragedy-driven Silent Hill games, or maybe Doctor Who's 'Heaven Sent'.
If there was one thing, I don't know if we needed 2 episodes surrounding Topa -- I pretty much loved both A Tale of Two Topas and Midnight Blue, but having them both in New Horizons meant that literally 20% of the episodes were dedicated to Topa's arc. Honestly, I would've vastly preferred if they had these together in the same Season if it were the 14-episode length of Season 2.
This third season was just on a different level. Great TV as it should be. Giving you all the emotions
First episode was excellent. Then we had two so-so ones. And then we had seven in a row that just knocked it out of the park every single time.
And it's not the Captain's job generally to do stuff. It's the Captain's job to ensure that *somebody* does it. They don't make the little decisions and run the ship day-to-day, they're there for the big judgements, the tricky ones. It's also a reflection on how comfortable Ed and Kelly's professional relationships now are that he is happy to delegate so much of the doing to her. And sometimes - the scene where they hide in a gas giant and fake destruction springs to mind - you can see the dynamic switch. Ed has the plan so gives the orders... but as soon as the decisions are done and the path is clear, Kelly starts giving the orders again ("Get us out of here" I think it was!). In Star Trek it'd always be the Captain giving that order, but their command dynamic is much more integrated. You also never see them argue, even when tricky moral points are at issue e.g. how to deal with Gordon. The writers never express dilemmas via an Ed-Kelly argument. Which is why it doesn't feel wrong in the finale - they are comfortable with each other again.
Mind you, in any season 4, Kelly is probably overdue for a command of her own and Ed for a bigger ship. Something JMS said about B5. No officer stays in a post for five years, not unless their career is dead dead dead.
wow I didn't know you lived in the 24th century, But Kelly likes working with her ex-Husband or she wouldn't had asked for that post and plus its just TV show your trying pull reality into fiction LOL
@@rory-red That's how good fiction works. And why Picard doesn't...
Orville is the best show ever. I loved every episode, I really hope there's a season 4..
One interesting thing I learned recently is there was supposed to be another episode of the season filmed but was made impossible due to covid. Do you think that episode would have made the season better or upset the balance?
That's an interesting question. I think 10 was perfect. That might explain why some episodes felt like super long one episodes (or movies, in a sense).
Sympathy for the Devil is available on Audiobook. Good story.
s3 was my favorite, think Ed pulling away and focusing on the other character made me like the show more. Hopefully they get the clear to do a season 4 and maybe more.
I thank you for doing this video. This is a masterpiece season. #renewtheorville
Great video!...however, the audio levels were a bit inconsistent with the show highlights.
Something I am working on. I apologize about that.
I thought Mercer being less the center of attention was a good creative move. Alot more of the cast had literally red meat to chew for dialogue. Great writing and will look good on their IMDB.
I, for one, loved what they did for the Moclans.
This is a perfect representation of Karl Popper's tolerance principle. You should tolerate different ways of thinking, but you can't tolerate intolerance, or the tolerance will be destroyed. This is also a good indication of how people who are stuck in traditions and prejudice (aka conservatism), it doesn't take much for them to ally with the religious fanatics and xenophobes (i.e. fascists), perfectly represented as the Moclans did what they threatened the Union to do since season 2: Rejoining the Krill in an alliance.
Love season three far more than previous seasons! I feel it has matured into a more Star Trek original theme style show.
Good commentary. I’d love to see more. The audio issues were kind of annoying though, with the clip audio being very low compared to your VO volume.
Just finished S3. Woah did they really grow the beard. They completely dropped the parody in favor of the TNG mantle. It's a shame Paramount never understood what made TNG so legendary, but at least we have this.
I have enjoyed Orville show since it began-this season was amazing-I liked every episode-I hope it keeps up next season
Bring back the Orville! Season 3 was gold. We need more shows as good as this one! Anyone at Disney listening? This season 3 of Orville ranks up there alongside some of the best Trek shows on Paramount+.
Season 4 is supposed to come 2024
Definitely One Of My Favorite Shows.. It’s Like Star Trek 4.0
Show reminds me of supernatural in the sense that the first season was fun and comfy but as it plays out it becomes very deep and serious. Id enjoy a little more comedy every now and then like the first season but its still very good.
I loved seeing Alana at the wedding.
I am just catching up with Season 3 now on Disney. Three episodes to go. So far I am very impressed.
The Orville is showing what modern Star Trek could and should have been.
The low point for me was episode 2. They refusal to wear space suits on strange planets or stations and the inability to sit down in a shuttle, but to stand behind the pilots is aggravating me everytime.😊
For me it was "Twice in a life time". I really didn't like how harsh their treatment of Gordon was. They erased him and his family with almost no second thought, and the bit where Keyali shows up at the door? it was cold and evil. In every other episode they break/bend the rules and risk annihilation for Topa, Isaac, Kelly...etc, but there? nope. What made it worse is that Ed has repeatedly went against the law stated in the episode about preserving the timeline; like in season 1 with Pria. She told him that they all died and that in order to preserve the timeline they had to go with her, and he didn't.
As a whole though, I LOVED Season 3 and am desperate for more.
I really thought it would have been better if Gordon made the choice to give up his family and go back to the Orville.
One thing I love about the show is how the Krill feel like a society of Catholic Crusaders to the Klingons Warrior Society.
Just my opinion about the Trek likeness
It sure was, I can’t wait for season 4
This show has become what Star Trek could have been. Picard season 3 is actually pretty awesome, and I’m enjoying every second of it. I don’t know if it makes up for the first two season, but then again TNG began with two crappy seasons. But “The Orville” has matured into one hell of a show.
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I'm a new fan of the Orville, I started watching it as soon as was presented in the Disney plus, I'm a star trek, star wars and Sci-fi adventures, action movies and I was so impressed with is series. Yes nit all the time was too upbeat, but still was very interesting the content, I do like it very much and I hope Mr. Seth MacFarlane makes at least 3 mire season. He is an exceptional story teller and I want more!!
Completely agree, Dolores! I love your comment. Thanks for taking the time. ☺️
Only episode I didn’t like was the one where they found this alien ship in the middle of nowhere. Instead of going inside with hazmat suits or any kind of security detail, they just went in like it was no big deal. Not surprisingly someone got infected and nearly infected the entire crew.
Only issue I had with the season opener is that it seems like it should have been shown 1 or 2 episodes after the 2 parter Identity but that was midway through season 2 and there were like 4 or 5 episodes after the Kaylon attack before seasons end and there was no issues with anyone and Isaac. The season 3 opener just seemed out of place cause it's like all is hu KY dory after Identity part 2 but then for the opener to make sense then it would be like the last 4 or so episodes of season 2 never happened.
I hope this makes sense, I guess that to me it was just a. It jarring to seemingly be done with the issue but then go right back into it to start the season.
I absolutely loved season 3, although i have a lot of nitpicks, i don't think any of them detract from how over all good the product was these season! i would say, if there were any episodes i thought could have used another draft, it would have been episode two. the premise was banger, and the foundation solid, i mean, the idea of encountering a Krell "Demon" is so cool!
*Spoilers for episode 2 of season 3*
that they were ultimately just basically spider zombies just felt like a huge let down to me. Although i think space zombies can be a really cool plot, the show might have done better in my opinion, to have just made them actual zombies. As to the demon aspect, when they reveled that, for reason never explained, this region of space has no starlight, i was hoping for something more abstract for the villain. Could have been a great call back to that season one episode, where the doctor says "the gaps between the stars look empty, but there not." (no spoilers, but i recognize why they wouldn't call back to that)
i gotta be honest with yall, when i remember TNG i had overall great memories, but the individual moments weren't as remarkable as the ones in The Orville. Most TNG episodes are silly but overall a fun ride, but the orville makes a point of making ONLY great content. Veredict: The Orville is the supreme star trek, and this is nothing bad to say! (although i miss the higher jokes rate on earlier seasons)
One thing that I can't get out of my head is whenever characters are in a space battle, all they do is speak in declarative statements and idk...it's not well done. Specifically when they're in the 'fighters' in the last big battle.
The Moclan story has been going on literally from the beginning of the show and I really like the idea that a alien species that was so intrigal to the Union was slowly discovered to be incompatible with Union ideals? How far would you appease them out of necessity add war on two fronts and you have a problem and a good story.
S03 obviously have beautiful writing, and it IS Star Trek now, but I really miss some of the lighthearted gags from the previous seasons.
S03 has like literally one joke per episode- even some classic Star Trek episodes had more humour displayed than that.
Not sure how everything went down behind the scenes, but it definitely felt like they KNEW this was it, and they did their best to cram every single cool Idea they could think of into 10 short episodes. If this had been a standard 22-episode season of STTNG, for example, Charlie's arc could have developed more slowly... episodes 2 and 3 would have been fine "weekly filler" episodes to sit comfortably around the big plot episodes. As it stood, even though they weren't "bad," they seemed weird and a bit out of place. With only 10 episodes, then. everything feels extremely rushed and action-packed, which can be both a GOOD and a BAD thing.
Don't get me wrong -- I still really enjoyed the season. I wish the show would have had a bit more time to breathe, though. Here's hoping we get more THE ORVILLE at some point in the future.
I agree, this season was great.
Here in Brazil its hard find a place talking about The Orville, becouse STAR+ is new streaming service by Disney and becouse is splited from Disney+ so many peaple cant fint this gold.
To me Lammar need show more up (allways beside Isaac) the new girl give me only bad reactions, becouse the actress are to beatifull in her moments, she moments in screen, don fit well. The lines of her character are good, simple enougth to us understud she is a duchbag with a good hearth.
The introduction of figthers are so good to me. This expend the Orville World, and the new props, like Isaac outfit, and the shuttle are some ot the hits of this season.
The end of the season, put us to face machism and religious withe extremist. That clever becouse they question about the Earth Union, ''what is correct?'' in same time when they say ''wee cant just put your laws above that cultures, its easy asking why not becouse both are two bad culture, but if they find one so close the Union in this days, who they can negociate progress?
A so many questions, so many new adventures can come in new Season.
I thought it wasnt as great as the first two seasons. We barely had Seth this season. It was all about the side characters.
It really was. I would’ve loved to see more Ed Mercer!
I really hope the show get a season 4 and more. This show is MILES BETTER than Kirkman's Star Trek.
I thought it was a pretty great series overall. The only episode that really didn't work for me was Shadow Realms. It made absolutely
no sense to me that they chose not to wear EV suits while exploring the space station. As I recall, the space station hadn't been explored by any sentient life forms for thousands or possibly millions of years, so who knows what sort of life threatening substances a person could be exposed to. It also didn't make sense to me that the infected admiral wasn't put inside a force field to protect the other crew members from his infection. There was no telling what he could have done! It seems to me that if the characters in your story need to make completely illogical choices just so that the main idea of your story can play out, then you really need to go back to the drawing board and start again to make your ideas play out organically. Lastly, for me personally, I didn't really feel compelled to rewatch many of the episodes from this series. One viewing seemed to be enough for most of them, which is kind of strange for me seeing as this is the only tv show that I actually like at the moment. Oh well, I certainly hope we get a fourth series, that's for sure!
I loved the season overall, but my least favorite episode is Domino. Burke being gay was really obvious (that scene in the shuttlepod gives off HUGE "Mom, Dad, this is my roommate" energy), so I had a sinking feeling in my stomach the entire season that they were going to lean on tired old tropes about gay trauma and burying your gays; and damned if that's not exactly what they did.
I wouldn't have minded as much if they could have at least shown us some of Burke's joy with Amanda in a flashback or something, but nope, it's just another story about a gay person being miserable until death is a bittersweet relief from the agony of life. I don't think it was intentional or malicious, but it's how her story turned out, regardless of anyone's intent.
I stopped watching on episode 3. It got pretty ridiculous.
I am sorry to hear that. Which episode and why? Just too much commentary for you?
@@NaterTot Episode 3. There's a difference between "Wow. I can't believe how much they packed into one episode" and "WTF are they doing now?" A lot of tangents. It was all over the place. Plus, stuff like a human and krill could conceive a child (who jumps to 6 years old) stretches my suspense of disbelief to the breaking point.
You kinda skipped over the hatred toward female by Borra people, the torture of a child and the vengence of her father wa chilling. Also the guy getting lost in the past, building a new life and family then having it stripped away without his knowledge just brutal. The Calon was so interesting when it was revealed Why that destroyed there creaters.
Bortus eyes are the best.
Like most people I’d obviously love more seasons of The Orville, but if that doesn’t end up happening then I feel at least the show was given a satisfying ending here.
Yeah, let's hope the Orville doesn't get cut short like Enterprise.
I hope so. Enterprise deserved more seasons
My favorite episode of the season was the one you didn't like the most, and my least favorite episode of the season was the finale. Not a good way to end season 3 with a bunch of people sitting around talking about wedding planning, that should have been a mid-season episode
unfortanatly we will never get a season 4 of the Orville unless it's picked up again by fox
Right. Which remains unlikely at this point
I agree Episode 3 was my least favorite of the season, to me felt like a serial numbers filed off version of the Supernatural episode Changing Channels. It has the same story beats. Our heroes were lured into a dangerous and constantly shifting fake world by a more powerful being from their past, complete with the fake out escape. Other than that it's a great season.
Based on quality alone this show deserves 5 to 7 seasons.
As much as I liked the show, I have to say the penultimate episode didn't really do it for me. I had several moments that just took me out, even though it was like grand in scale and action packed, it really needed some tweaks.
For one, the Union going in to attack without waiting for the Keylon ships is dumb. Why not go together? Why let so many union ships die for no reason?
Secondly, they join forces with the Keylon and mention that destroying the weapon is very much an option they're considering if they can't recover it, and they even take Keylon Prime with them, but nobody raises the point that once the weapon is gone/destroyed, the Keylon could immediately turn on them and kill them all. Sure the ending mentions this AFTER it's already been done when the Keylon decide to abandon their genocidal ways because they saw self-sacrifice for the cause, but seriously the fact that nobody even brought it up as a flaw in their plan is ridiculous, did they know ahead of time or expect that the Keylon would just not attack the moment the threat to their existence was removed?
Thirdly, I found the union acting a bit out of character. Like, yeah okay they don't want the Keylon to be exterminated because that's genocide and it's wrong, so they want the weapon back, but then they go into a massive scale assault that results in countless deaths just to save the Keylon who very well could've extreminated all of them the moment the weapon is destroyed? It's not like the union to immediately jump to weapons instead of trying diplomatic approaches first, or a more covert/espionage/inflitration approach first. I know they wanted a big setpiece ship battle, but there needs to be a good reason behind those else they become meaningless. You could say, there's no time for it, but they never even bring up any reluctance towards killing Krill and Moklan ships and losing union ships. They're simultaneously anti-genocide/violence and very much going with a full frontal violent approach. As a very wise robot once said "They'll learn of our peaceful ways, BY FORCE!"
I actually felt that episode 10 was weak compared to the huge episodes that came before it. It was like an hour-long denouement for the show up to this point in case season 4 didn't happen.
It was always going to be challenging to follow up to that episode. It was such a good one.
I understand the enthusiasm for something one likes. Admittedly, I like The Orville for the most part, its easy on the eyes and a throw back to TNG years gone past. However, let us be clear, New Horizons is a vanity project gone mad! The episodes are WAY too long and over written to excess with multiple effects sequences that repeat themes such as approaching and descending toward planets, the same corridors and attack on a secret station played out twice in consecutive episodes.Then there is the loud musical fanfare which drowns out any hint at nuance. Seth McFarlane essentially removed himself from the season as a character so he could concentrate on directing, it is here where vanity pokes its ugly head with lingering reaction shots for commercial outros, the over use of CG and episodes that could be trimmed by a good editor down 15 or 20 minutes. Laborious viewing is NOT good television. Talk about fan service!
Orville s3 is the best trek in the last 20 years
I liked the show ... but disliked the social justice stuff. The first episode was an awful start -- fortunately, the season as a whole was great. Loved the last two episodes! Hope they keep making more!
TNG had a rocky start and got a tone this is no different role on 7 seasons of The Orville.
Absolutely!
Yes, 7 seasons, but please at least 20 episodes per season as it was the norm with Star Trek shows.
Try has I may I can’t get into like or understand this shows popularity 🤷🏻♂️ I like Seth but wish he would do ted 3 or a million ways to die in the west 2.
Charly was a welcome voice of dissent among a crew that is always so like minded. Klyden is the worst character and it was a mistake to bring him back with a contrived sudden turn around. He was so behind the Moclan way that he told his daughter to her face he wished she'd never been born and left her, but we're supposed to believe what happened suddenly changed his mind? It would have been more believable had he been a part of the kidnapping and planned murder. They should have let that character go before Charly, but they couldn't have furthered teh story how they wanted if they had done it differently
I did not like Episode 2. I am not a big fan of body horror. The tension of the entire crew potentially being "assimilated" into those creatures was uncomfortable and a bit tramatic. Granted, that was probably what they were going for. It just left a bad taste in my mouth and kept me from watching the rest of the series until the series was over. It also left the end of the episode without a relatively happy ending. Those people who were assimilated are gone. It was a good one off of TNG and the Borg. Hopefully, if they come back, they can skip the body horror when they face them again.
Other than that, 10 out of 10.
So if no one has done this, watch new horizon with subtitles on, there's no way all of those "comments" were on accident lol
"Expensive over budget orchestra music plays"
"Epic theme that'll be in your playlist plays"
😂😂😂😂
Suicide is pointless is not as good a line as Suicide is Painless
Seasons 1&2 were noteworthy and had a lot of humor but season 3 was just another bland Star Trek series in the timeframe of DS9 and Voyager. They need to bring back the Seth Macfarlane jokes for season 4. If I wanted to watch Star Trek, I’d watch one of the 4 current ST series out now
Wait a minute......WAIT.A.MINUTE!!!
Disney OWNS Hulu?!?!
Oh GOD, No...........😵
They do!
@@NaterTot NOOOOOOO!!
GOD NO!😱
There's NO hope for a good season 4.😑
"cut the episodes down to 10" - damn that lazy trend. It's _everywhere._ How did we allow that to happen? We just expect, for any show, that it will have fewer than half the episodes shows used to have. And it won't stop there, it'll go down to 6 and 4.
I don’t find this lazy, at all. Honestly, quite the opposite. Studios would push for bigger seasons just to have more money and revenue brought in from advertisements. Thus, cutting budget down on episodes. Why so means shows had flashback episodes or episodes that were all shot in one place. Now they can tell a great story without feeling pressured. Not to mention, I believe the prior two seasons were 13 episodes at 42 minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see if the ten episodes ran over than those 13 episodes in total runtime.
@@NaterTot The universality gives it away. Everything, large and small, used to be 22-26 episodes. Now everything, large and small, is 8-10 episodes. This is not something reserved for particularly cinematic series.
And getting something renewed is so ridiculously difficult too. Before, you'd make two or three seasons and then decide whether to renew. Now a show has to nail its audience right from what is effectively its first half-season. Lots of great series from the past would have been axed on that condition. And the decision to renew is inevitably so late that the anemic seasons come slower than one per year
You remember that next generation show that took 3 seasons just to get good? What about voyager that was mediocre at best? And DS9 that took a couple seasons to get it's stride. The orville stands toe to toe and betters most of that. Don't forget for a second that each of those ST shows had some horrible episodes well into the series.
I enjoyed s3 alot. I was expecting the hysterical anti woke mob to attack some of the story lines and create alot of hate, but it's been refreshingly positive on the whole.
You understated how garbage episode 3 was imo. I absolutely loved everything but 2 and 3. And I didn't dislike 2 either. It was alright.
Episode 3? Straight to trashcan. And burn the trashcan afterwards.
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I would call the first half a masterpiece. But the second half was kind of weak.
The season was a slide for third rather than a home run.
What i love about the orville is that its literally communism.
anybody knows if the vews on hulu and disney+ are good?
I heard for Disney Plus the numbers are ‘encouraging’
So going behind the Disney pay wall. Guess I won’t be watching this again.
Loved 1 and 2. So far dont care for season 3. Scenes seem too long and drawn out. Way too much mundane filler scenes.
This, well lets call it a review is quite sad, and missing so many points, that is feels more like sarcasm. This season is ...good?
So, entire season the crew got themselves into every problem we found on screen. Their own choices and stupidity got em in the pinch every episode. And to top that off, main point of war vs Kaylons, was sorted by a gimick invented off screen ! ? That is the mark of the good season ?! Solving your main plot off screen !?
I’ve been looking at sci-fi series lately. That chic you called Kelly who’s on the clickbait is cute.. I like the graphics you exhibit, alien costume design & it sounds entertaining, but I hate the uniforms, & a couple of the dudes immediately hit me as dork poindexter. It just means that I’m going to have to try, I detest that about a lot of Hollywood. I just don’t see it, so for parts with acting, does it fit the role? I suppose I’m asking too much? Maybe Hollywood would prefer the swoons over Doe from Heavens Gate for easy character sales? So although you might love who put this together with a tip stick bow to their fame, I seriously question their credibility & gravitas for manliness. All that graphic, story plot, costume & alien design & this is the best uniform they could come up with? Clearly the babe’s attraction holds this together. They want to draw me & the kiddy’s in for a sit down in contrast with today’s dynamics to have a sob cry over a robot’s suicide.? Give me a break! Ya know I have a cousins with a wife who suffers ptsd from her a pet dying as a child, dog or cat, but I bet she’d really enjoy that..?
Thanks for the info, I guess my mind’s made up then. I’ll pass.
Season 3 is great, but I miss comedy.
Focusing far too much on Charlie's lesbian love interest was a bit of a drag imo. I get it's Hollywood and that GLAAD would be up their ass if there wasn't enough "gay representation", but her character arc would've been just as impactful if she was straight, or if she was saved by just a friend, or a sibling, or a mentor. The whole "I'm gay, look at me!" thing was just way too forced imo.
How? There were, like, two lines in the entire series that even referred to Charlie's romantic feelings. If that's too much for you, go back to the 1950s, caveman.
It was all right but it tried to be too serious. It was better as a comedy.