Watch a video on a band who were never sell outs and never achieved commercial success but yet I have to watch three commercials in a ten minute video. Oh the irony.
VIEWS. Never forget for a second TH-cam is about views and that the average person is barely literate. That doesn't make them "bad" but they must be engaged as one might a rather stupid child. That goes with the territory and is more likely to introduce noobs to the Velvets who might not otherwise watch. The Velvets music opens minds and not just ancient boomers like self. Whatever shares their stuff effectively in the modern world is fine with me. Peace.
It would've been interesting to mention Reed's rivalry with Frank Zappa, and how they traded barbs and insults in the press, yet Reed later inducted Zappa into the RnR Hall of Fame, speaking of him in the highest regard.
Both men were undeniably original, influential artists beyond the number of records that they sold while active in the industry. Frank was the superior musician.
I read an interview with Lou from the late 60s where he said Zappa was the most pretentious, boring excuse for musician that existed. Hhhaha. Lou had litle good to say about any of his contemporaries except the Beatles who he gushed over like a schoolboy. :)
@@almishti I heard an interview where Lou was blasting the Ramones, yet on the Danny Fields documentary, he has an audio tape of Lou praising them as geniuses, after seeing them live for the first time...I think Lou is one of those people that doesnt like to compliment the competition
This video is full of lies and bs. Anyone who knows VU history will spot the inaccuracies, but the worst sin is the implication that Reed made decisions in the search for commercial success. Geez, he went back to live with his parents and worked as a typist! Does that sound like someone looking for chart hits to you?!
Lou was weary of the way Steve Sesnick managed the band and that is the reason why he left. He probably thought he’d quite the music industry for good at that point in time. Doug has been blamed for the VU last album Squeeze, but Sesnick is the one, who hoodwinked him into doing that album. It is not Doug’s fault.
😢 John Cale ❤ 85+ I still wouldn't kick him outta the bed. Only untold I've continually noticed is that The Velvet Underground was+is John Cale's baby. BTW John Cale left of his own accord - my feelings.. best move he made related to TVU. Dear John, 💖 PLEASE come back to ATLANTA 🥰
I found a copy of The Velvet Underground & Nico's album along with Terry Reid's Seed of Memory and John Coltrane's Giant Steps in trash can in 1979. I still have those LPs.
Picture at 2:23 is from the Yule lineup and not the Cale lineup. Sloppy editing. And as for the record, Cale wasn't just only a classically trained viola player, but a classically trained multi instrumentalist. The first instrument he learned aged six was the piano.
The "Untold truth" = events that have already been exhaustively documented over the last 50 years, and are already known to most people with a passing interest in The Velvet Underground.
Lou wasn't brought up in Queens..his family story was the classic East European Jewish one of get to NYC with little more than your life..start off in Brooklyn and end up upper-middle class on Long Island...
I always loved both Lou Reed and John Cale. Sadly they were both regarded as difficult people so their break up seemed predictiable. I was told by someone who had worked with John Cale that he was very aloof and the whole experience was unpleasant. It is sad that hardly anyone today even knows who they were despite their considerable influence.
I can believe that John Cale was hard to work with especially post VU, he was heavily fuelled by cocaine most of the time and it probably affected his temperament. I've seen some of his interviews from around the late seventies early eighties and he was very rude and intimidating to the journalist who was interviewing him.
So where is the untold part of the story? Any VU fan knows all these facts anyway and White Heat/White Light is a joke! It's the other way round! And please pronounce Nico's real name properly! Do your research before you start making videos on the VU. If I were you I would start again with the correct facts. This is a bit of an insult to the great Lou, Nico and Andy. It would be interesting to know what John Cale and Moe Tucker thought of this rubbish.
Walk on the Wild Side is a TRUE classic. The lyrics, alone, reflect the reality of the time. Oh, yes. But Warhol was/is a fake! His artwork is quite poor.
@@lenini056 That thought did occur to me. I think it's more like Mo and her not acting like a Trumptard. Let go of politics and embrace the music I always say.
@@websurfer5772 Could be part of the "MKUltra" operation as agents were said to close their loop. I mean if you believe that similar pretenses are what ultimately took the life of lovely Norma Jean it wouldn't be a stretch to suspect the same happened to Nico (on account of who she chose to keep her company. While conspiracies do happen there's a fine line between being skeptical and putting a minus sign in front of everything you see.
I'm glad the VU never went mainstream. It would've ruined the band and it's music. Just like Aerosmith when they went all commercial. They were great and did their best work in the 70's and 80's imho. I love Lou Reed and everything he did.
Where's the fire? Maybe you could slow down a tiny bit...? It's so fast it's almost garbled. I don't have time to take it in. I want to SAVOUR the information (not feel like I'm being hurried out the door). It's VERY interesting.
Erik Satie has fuck all to do with influencing The Velvet Underground. You should have mentioned LaMonte Young or Terry Riley instead. And Phil Soector wasn't a musician.
Some ppl really are just able to push themselves as far as physically possible, my gma is 91 and a smoker her whole life and on morphine meds and can still talk a storm and walk like nothing😂 then you got the other side where ya die young af from an OD. Just staying far away from hard drugs is the way to go
Most people don't know that Lou Reed, contrary to his love for R&B, put together the Velvet Underground with the idea of creating "rock and Roll' without Black influences.
no shit ! Sherlock. ' wow' , have you read a book ???? Clever you Please, tell us something, we don't know . Please be an American, cos I expect more from my British counterparts. you be saying that Monty Python, are the funniest thing since Billy Collenerly, next. somethings are so obvious...that they don't need to be said . I ha e had a " bad " day. so I apologise, BUT stating the obvious, is just ...just...puerile. love and peace....man
The untold truth? With these guys it pick a truth, any truth. Seriously, does anyone even know who they are? My guess is they will be forgotten in about 10 years. So long Velvet Underground. We never knew you
"So I'm back, to the Velvet... hmmm... Underground... Back to the floor, that I love. To a room, with some lace, and paper flowers. Back to the gypsy, that I was... To the gypsy... that I was."
There was a band in the early 60s they took their sound from I wish I could remember the name of the band, but their music wasn't new, but it was an Avant Gard sound.
@@whatishappeing No, I can single handedly back this comment up. I think that this band is completely forgettable. One day no one will ever play their music again
I liked Nico she never got much mention as the others.but she was beautiful .Godbless You Nico..Rest in peace Nico.🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌻🌻💐💐💐💐🌹🌹🌹🌹Amen. I hope your At Peace.
Except they haven't for a long long time. KISS stopped being relevant in 1978. I USED to be a HUGE fan until they went disco and trashed Ace and Peter.
At this time: 3/1/22 I would like to remember The Velvet Underground for being the music of the velvet revolution we see taking place today in Ukraine. A revolution for democracy as I see it. The greatest threats to peace are trigger words and phrases. Democratic balance must temper all Republic's "Patriotic" zeal for their parties local independent control of "Politics".
It's a pity john cale and Lou never got on they were both great song writers .Rest in peace to lou .hopefully hes happy again .Godbless him Amen🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌻🌹🌹🌹🌹🌻🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
What's your favorite song from The Velvet Underground?
Sunday Morning or Stephanie Says
Venus in Furs
Herion
All Tomorrow's Parties
The Gift!
I'm waiting for the 'Untold Truth."
Lol right
Twenty dollars in my hand
@@dougbennett8592 *twentysix
The untold truth is the banana.
Evil- cursed - manipulative banana
@@Itsyrm8 you really have to smoke a banana to truly understand
Watch a video on a band who were never sell outs and never achieved commercial success but yet I have to watch three commercials in a ten minute video. Oh the irony.
Neat.
If it's "untold" how do these people know?
Sloppy
Sorry, Velvet Underground. Not impressed.
tell Jimmy Page that. He loves them.
@@donlebo6824 It takes a special kind of moron to click on here just to say "I don't like them" lol.
How is this untold truth? All the info in this video is common knowledge among Velvets fans.
I think it’s just for those that are only “new fans”.. although the official documentary is coming out lol
Loved them for almost 50 years now but never listened to a documentary on them so some new stuff for me. Nico being chosen by Warhol was a revelation!
VIEWS. Never forget for a second TH-cam is about views and that the average person is barely literate. That doesn't make them "bad" but they must be engaged as one might a rather stupid child. That goes with the territory and is more likely to introduce noobs to the Velvets who might not otherwise watch. The Velvets music opens minds and not just ancient boomers like self. Whatever shares their stuff effectively in the modern world is fine with me. Peace.
So no mention that Lou was a big fan of The Banana Splits.
White Heat White Light? Try it the other way around. That’s a pretty big detail to get wrong.
Definitely not narrated by a fan. “Venus in Fur?”
Glad you said it!
It would've been interesting to mention Reed's rivalry with Frank Zappa, and how they traded barbs and insults in the press, yet Reed later inducted Zappa into the RnR Hall of Fame, speaking of him in the highest regard.
Both men were undeniably original, influential artists beyond the number of records that they sold while active in the industry. Frank was the superior musician.
@@austintrousdale2397 Reed a superior lyricist
I read an interview with Lou from the late 60s where he said Zappa was the most pretentious, boring excuse for musician that existed. Hhhaha. Lou had litle good to say about any of his contemporaries except the Beatles who he gushed over like a schoolboy. :)
@@almishti I heard an interview where Lou was blasting the Ramones, yet on the Danny Fields documentary, he has an audio tape of Lou praising them as geniuses, after seeing them live for the first time...I think Lou is one of those people that doesnt like to compliment the competition
@@almishti I've read interviews where Lou slammed The Beatles,
This video is full of lies and bs. Anyone who knows VU history will spot the inaccuracies, but the worst sin is the implication that Reed made decisions in the search for commercial success. Geez, he went back to live with his parents and worked as a typist! Does that sound like someone looking for chart hits to you?!
“Venus in Fur”? The Gray Album “a conventional rock album”? Have they even listened to this music?
Lou was weary of the way Steve Sesnick managed the band and that is the reason why he left. He probably thought he’d quite the music industry for good at that point in time. Doug has been blamed for the VU last album Squeeze, but Sesnick is the one, who hoodwinked him into doing that album. It is not Doug’s fault.
Yeah, I would try to spot the inaccuracies but I just don't care
@@blakecscott5525 great album👍🤞✌🤘👏💖💫
😢 John Cale ❤ 85+ I still wouldn't kick him outta the bed. Only untold I've continually noticed is that The Velvet Underground was+is John Cale's baby. BTW John Cale left of his own accord - my feelings.. best move he made related to TVU. Dear John, 💖 PLEASE come back to ATLANTA 🥰
Without the Velvet Underground my CD and Vinyl collection would be much smaller. Mega influential.
Yep me also
Ditto!
I listen to Nico's solo albums a lot, and VU's first album.
Why?
VU loaded is a fantastic record as well. Really those first 4 are all great.
@@tvar9672the first fours all they got
@josephsmall4270.👍🤞👋
I found a copy of The Velvet Underground & Nico's album along with Terry Reid's Seed of Memory and John Coltrane's Giant Steps in trash can in 1979. I still have those LPs.
What a find! Nice.
WoW !!! That luck !
"Cale was born in the UK"....didn't you thing people would know where Wales was?
they don't, and if you've got a heart a brain or even just a winkle,
you'll help to keep it that way before its full of drive in vasectomy joints
I first heard of them in the 1980s when there was a revived interest in the group. I have loved them ever since.
Picture at 2:23 is from the Yule lineup and not the Cale lineup. Sloppy editing.
And as for the record, Cale wasn't just only a classically trained viola player, but a classically trained multi instrumentalist. The first instrument he learned aged six was the piano.
The "Untold truth" = events that have already been exhaustively documented over the last 50 years, and are already known to most people with a passing interest in The Velvet Underground.
John Cale was born in Wales 🏴
Gosh 😱 do you think 🤔 he knows 😂
Lou wasn't brought up in Queens..his family story was the classic East European Jewish one of get to NYC with little more than your life..start off in Brooklyn and end up upper-middle class on Long Island...
It's been said that very few people bought Velvet Underground albums, but most of those who did started bands
The group had potential but huge egos got in the way.
Mainly Reed's
I always loved both Lou Reed and John Cale. Sadly they were both regarded as difficult people so their break up seemed predictiable. I was told by someone who had worked with John Cale that he was very aloof and the whole experience was unpleasant. It is sad that hardly anyone today even knows who they were despite their considerable influence.
Always thought Cale was way cooler than Reed
I can believe that John Cale was hard to work with especially post VU, he was heavily fuelled by cocaine most of the time and it probably affected his temperament. I've seen some of his interviews from around the late seventies early eighties and he was very rude and intimidating to the journalist who was interviewing him.
@@sarahwelty9223 The incident I am refering too happened in the late '80's.
@@cindytomato what the f..k are you on🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 .if its anything to do with your name god help us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
White light/White heat!
Nuff said!
4 minutes in and nothing new. Untold boredom.
So where is the untold part of the story? Any VU fan knows all these facts anyway and White Heat/White Light is a joke! It's the other way round! And please pronounce Nico's real name properly! Do your research before you start making videos on the VU. If I were you I would start again with the correct facts. This is a bit of an insult to the great Lou, Nico and Andy. It would be interesting to know what John Cale and Moe Tucker thought of this rubbish.
The thumbnail is the prettiest picture of David Bowie I've ever seen.
Walk on the Wild Side is a TRUE classic. The lyrics, alone, reflect the reality of the time. Oh, yes. But Warhol was/is a fake! His artwork is quite poor.
lol ...As if their music isn't.
@@55vermeer Their music was quite unique.
@@Alsatiagent I'll give you that.
Btw Walk on the Wild Side is NOT a Velvet Underground song. It's probably THE ONLY GOOD song Lou Reed ever wrote.
@@davidpaul6656 hold up- only good song?? Bad take my dude. No love for even Perfect Day on that same album???
How is this “the unknown truth” when all of the information you discussed is well known and widely available to anyone with a computer? Click bait.
Interesting that Lou Reed and John Cale were born just seven days from each other in 1942...both Pisces Water Horses.
Thank you to this amazing band for influencing so many people.
Their influence to me a problem too, took "heroin" too literally!!!
Around 20 years to sort things out, hey ho all good now. You have a perfect day!!
I’m in no way a fluent German speaker, but the way the narrator pronounced Nico’s real name, Christa Päffgen, just sounded way off.
German is my first language - and yes: it was indeed way off!
Loaded suffers greatly because of the absence of Maureen Tucker.
Bah. Cale and Tucker can put the band back together again and they would fill the house.
Maybe they can get Doug Yule on board to sweeten the deal. I wonder how John Cale and Doug Yule see each other?
@@lenini056 That thought did occur to me. I think it's more like Mo and her not acting like a Trumptard. Let go of politics and embrace the music I always say.
I like the song where Lou called Bob Dylan a prententious k*ke and then released an album of guitar feedback. Classy guy
Nico was so beautiful. A shame she died so young
I feel badly about the way I heard she died. I don't trust the man who said he found her by the roadside in Spain next to her bike.
@@websurfer5772 They did a full autopsy...consistent with others who've gone the same way as were accounts of her behaviour leading up to it.
@@funfun5656 Well, so they said. It could be true though.
@@websurfer5772 Could be part of the "MKUltra" operation as agents were said to close their loop.
I mean if you believe that similar pretenses are what ultimately took the life of lovely Norma Jean it wouldn't be a stretch to suspect the same happened to Nico (on account of who she chose to keep her company.
While conspiracies do happen there's a fine line between being skeptical and putting a minus sign in front of everything you see.
@@funfun5656 Excellent points.
I did not notice any "untold truth". Totally standard issue, in fact.
I wouldn't say "untold" because I already knew all that stuff. But still great video!
I'm glad the VU never went mainstream. It would've ruined the band and it's music. Just like Aerosmith when they went all commercial. They were great and did their best work in the 70's and 80's imho. I love Lou Reed and everything he did.
Oh Sweet Nuthin'
This is what a documentary made by a bot looks like.
"Nico Paf-jen?"
Now that you guys covered the Velvet Underground, you should do the Modern Lovers next!
A person of taste 🧐
should've said John Cale was born in Wales
Where's the fire? Maybe you could slow down a tiny bit...? It's so fast it's almost garbled. I don't have time to take it in. I want to SAVOUR the information (not feel like I'm being hurried out the door). It's VERY interesting.
Erik Satie has fuck all to do with influencing The Velvet Underground.
You should have mentioned LaMonte Young or Terry Riley instead.
And Phil Soector wasn't a musician.
I wonder how Lou got on with John's broad Welsh accent.. Must have been mind blowing for a New Yorker
I like Squeeze in and of itself but I’ve never seen it referred to as “a Velvet Underground album” with any seriousness.
The Untold Truth?
Shouldn't it be The Tragic Truth from this Tragic Channel?
Lou Reed lived to be 71 wow after years of abusing you're bodysomething got to give
Some ppl really are just able to push themselves as far as physically possible, my gma is 91 and a smoker her whole life and on morphine meds and can still talk a storm and walk like nothing😂 then you got the other side where ya die young af from an OD. Just staying far away from hard drugs is the way to go
The few who heard the Velvet Underground went on to start a band.
not me.
I didn’t
Eh, nope 😂
it's a shame what happened to Mo Tucker
what happened to Moe?
No untold truth here. And um excuse me, White Heat/White Light?!?
" at 5:24 . . ."After the failure of White Heat/White Light..." !? Is that the Bizarro Jerry version of White light/White Heat.
Venus in Fur.....( it's Venus in Furs Can you pay attention to what you're saying?
A highly recommended book about the Velvet Underground is by Rob Jovanovic, titled "Seeing the Light".
There Is no Velvet UG without Lou Reed and John Cale
Actually, all that has been told....for a long, long, time..
Most people don't know that Lou Reed, contrary to his love for R&B, put together the Velvet Underground with the idea of creating "rock and Roll' without Black influences.
@@awickedtribe CALE put together TVU, with some more assistance from Reed...
Too many Incorrect "Facts" here. Fail.
Velvet Underground - much to do about nothing
Stuff everyone knows about TVU
Hey....I went to highschool with Doug....hi Doug
Recycled info.... nothing untold here
No untold truth? Is it Nico? Lol
This is awfully made. You have no clue
Did they all get a piece of the publishing
What's the "untold" part of this?
I've always been a Lou Reed fan.
@roggill6599.uve got my vote 👍✌👏💫💖100/100 all the way .he was the man 👍.rest in peace to him .gone but not forgotten Godbless him Amen 🕊🦋🌹
Coney Island Baby was a good album ... that was a solo effort
no shit ! Sherlock. ' wow' , have you read a book ???? Clever you
Please, tell us something, we don't know .
Please be an American, cos I expect more from my British counterparts.
you be saying that Monty Python, are the funniest thing since Billy Collenerly, next. somethings are so obvious...that they don't need to be said .
I ha e had a " bad " day.
so I apologise, BUT
stating the obvious, is just
...just...puerile.
love and peace....man
Je neodpustitelné, co provedla synovi. Ona i Delon jsou špíny.
I met Nico once in the late sixties, nice lady but away with the fairies 😊
I heard she wasn't very nice. I believe the fairies part. Heroin makes some people see fairies, anyway.
Sister Ray.
Joe pipsico wannabe
Interesting footage. Littered with inaccuracies.
Is it that they’re bad?
Has anyone heard about the sixsome tryst of Jagger-Warhol-Bowie-Dali-Reed-Picasso? Bono and Pollock were a little too lat3.
Ov3rated
The untold truth? With these guys it pick a truth, any truth. Seriously, does anyone even know who they are? My guess is they will be forgotten in about 10 years. So long Velvet Underground. We never knew you
"So I'm back, to the Velvet... hmmm... Underground...
Back to the floor, that I love.
To a room, with some lace, and paper flowers.
Back to the gypsy, that I was...
To the gypsy... that I was."
the best band to ever do it
To do what?
@@rangers94ism you know? It.
There was a band in the early 60s they took their sound from I wish I could remember the name of the band, but their music wasn't new, but it was an Avant Gard sound.
I feel that The Velvet Underground would prefer the PS5 over the Xbox Series X.
The most underrated & greatest Avant-garde rock band
how can they be underrated when everyone who's heard of them worships them
@@whatishappeing underrated from.a commercial aspect..
@@gavinjh1303 lou reed's net worth is 15 mil
@@whatishappeing whoa..Thanks for the info ..I actually mean the VU not Lou Reed but thanks for sharing the information though..
@@whatishappeing No, I can single handedly back this comment up. I think that this band is completely forgettable. One day no one will ever play their music again
It's weird to think about Nico living in Manchester North UK on council estates. see kiddies say no to drugs, from the stars to the toilet.
Check out John Cale's depiction in Songs they never play on the radio- once he becomes a health freak, it's jokes.
I liked Nico she never got much mention as the others.but she was beautiful .Godbless You Nico..Rest in peace Nico.🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌻🌻💐💐💐💐🌹🌹🌹🌹Amen. I hope your At Peace.
Sandra, you're embarrassing yourself. Please, do be quiet.
All of this might have been true if anyone had actually listened to them in the first place.
I predict every truth will have already been told many times...
"Your damn right I Sold Out, I sell out every night I Hit the stage"
Gene Simmons
Except they haven't for a long long time. KISS stopped being relevant in 1978. I USED to be a HUGE fan until they went disco and trashed Ace and Peter.
Gend Simmons is a disgusting pig, and not worthy of being mentioned in a convo about VU.
thta is not unttold Thrut, everybody knows that. let me alone
At this time: 3/1/22
I would like to remember The Velvet Underground for being the music of the velvet revolution we see taking place today in Ukraine. A revolution for democracy as I see it. The greatest threats to peace are trigger words and phrases. Democratic balance must temper all Republic's "Patriotic" zeal for their parties local independent control of "Politics".
😂😂😂
What use was Andy. Even that stupid banana idea.
...and where is the "untold" part of the story?
Untold truth??? Nothing here new to me!!!
I only clicked on this because of the girl
Reinvented? More like took a dump on it.
It's a pity john cale and Lou never got on they were both great song writers .Rest in peace to lou .hopefully hes happy again .Godbless him Amen🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌻🌹🌹🌹🌹🌻🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
What are u talking about ,Cale is alive n well !!????? 😂😂😂
@@patrickol4300 silly me🙄🙄🙄🤔🤣.
where's the untold truth??
Yea this is bs
still love it!!