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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Well... I've been quite MIA for too long now! It's time to share the news! Where have I been? What happen to my 2018 Honda Civic Si? And.. what is the next move ? All is explained in this video. Stay safe my 10th gen owners ! There's a limit to everything.
Power:
// 365whp & 386wtq
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Mods:
- FBO (Full bolt-ons)
PRL Cobra CAI, PRL Intercooler, PRL Chargepipes, FKX Racing Catless Downpipe, FKX Racing Catless Frontpipe
Custom Set-up Exhaust
- Pure Turbos Stage 2 Turbo Upgrade
- Hondata
- Clutchmasters FX350
- Custom Tuned by @d_butl3r
- E85 Fuel
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I don't know what's sadder...the motor blowing or you filming in vertical...
neither, it's definitely the music that makes me want to cry...
“Conservative tune, 350 to the wheels” lol
out of a boosted 1.5L honda fit economy car engine XD
That is what the type R make lol
@@pavel1809 yeah but the type R has a 2.0L K20 engine, this is a powerful performance engine...not a boosted fit motor.
@@TechWizMaster type R is a k series but its an FK8
@@baggedtuned8569 no i mean the engine code...the Typr R has a K20C1 powerplant which is miles better than the L15 in the other models.
350hp conservative tune?? did I hear that right? Conservative would have been 250hp./260 lbft
360 to the wheels on a stock 1.5L (just Bolton) is insane. What did you expect? A
Still a beastly number.
Damn, i guess that little 1.5 engine can't take all those modifications. Good luck brother, I know you'll bounce back
Damn dude - I am really sorry this happened. It makes me think twice when starting to mod my car. Glad you knew the limits and knew what you were doing and knew that this was a big risk you were taking. I am looking forward to seeing what comes next! Glad the Si is NOT dead!
Just wanted to say thanks for posting, I know it’s not what all want to see but needed for the community. Sorry for your loss but I know you’ll be back soon. Can’t wait to see what’s next. -JaySi.671
The people who get the first iteration of anything will be the guinea pigs for the company and other modders. Thanks for the sacrifice, I feel your pain.
That's why I live my life by the code, "never buy first gen."
Would have been cheaper to just buy a Type R off the bat lol JK
Kent Livingston hahahahahahaha!
Type r rods are just as shitty.
It's probably more fun gapping people in an si though because they don't expect it
@@k20a2toofast4u Don't lie to people dude.
@@drewh22 you know this is 2 years ago right?? And no need to lie, type r pistons are literally $38 from Honda, thats quality?
I still don't understand why people decide to push the limits of stock motors.. but hey it's your car in the end.
Pushing the limits of a stock motor is a good point for those who cannot afford to build one. Of course a built motor is way way better. But not everyone has the money to build one. So they push the stock one. If someone (video) blows the motor then you know not to go to say 350hp on it. Stay at 300. That's a feat for this tiny engine. Now of you have money and you just wanna know then cool. You're going into it knowing you're going to blow it and buy a new one. It's just a good starting point.
It sucks on what happened and it's a learning experience. But how many people can say they pushed a stock motor to over 350hp? Or daring enough to do it? Imagine it was just rods. What if someone else gets new rods and can push the motor even further? Still a hell of a lot less than a built one
@@Aloneinthedarkso Well, I can but that's because I own the king of 4cyl cars -- EVO
Dude you had me at 300 hp and two on stock Honda motor man. Most hondas stock are pretty good at 170 to 250 but outside of those numbers on a turbo 1.5 I am sure even 280 hp and 300 hp would given you long life. You were already at like 450 to 500 plus man what were you expecting?? Hey man this kind of thing will teach you that fast and reliable ain't cheap
Hey man, it's a learning experience. Expensive... But you learned something from it. Good luck. Keep us updated.
Happened to me too, I'm on my 2nd K20 but 315hp is enough for me. It's my daily driver
@@Charmer4856 why did the 1st one blow?
@@FrancisD Pushing it too hard. It had about 240K of miles on it and I was racing a RX8 going about 150. I did win the battle lol. Funny thing is, it didnt blow up until a few hours later going back home
@@Charmer4856 Damm 😭 I blew my k20 too.. Oil return line burst and ran with no oil😢.. How u hit 150 tho.. My car max out at 140😅
@@FrancisD Technically mine seized up but it was ruined just the same. Its a K20A2...I've done 155 in mine. Actually doesnt take that long to get there either. Top of 5th gear, that was before I swapped in 4.76 final drive and TSX 3rd and 4th.
"Now me and the mad mechanic gotta replace the motor that you blew..."
Sorry for your loss bro but can’t wait for the rebuild, #buildITbreakITbuildIT again STAY POSITIVE
It's a engine not a family member 😂
I’m not feeling the sad vibe of this video man lol. You knew pushing it like that with no internals on our motors always end up blowing it up. Some caught it before it got fatal like this. But it’s always happened..you 110% pushed the limits of the motor especially on E85 my dude. Now you can build it. Be happy bro and obviously it’s not the end haha. I can’t wait to see how the engine turns out my dude!!! You can be on top of the 10th gen game right now bro! Do everything you can to make that motor a monster
Doug S Yeah that’s why I explained to educate the ones who keep pushing for power to be aware! I felt the need to be the sacrifice to show everyone these motors aren’t bullet proof! But yes, we are bouncing back with a built motor as prepared! Now we’ll see how far we can take a 1.5L and surprise a few cars along the way 😉
PhongVLG I’m at 240/270 with a stage 1 prl cai, fx300 clutch, and Ktuner V2 and it’s tuned and I surprise the shit out of all the cars I rip on. These cars are amazing man they are so much fun! I wish I lived out there with y’all. I’m in RI haha
350 out of that car must have been insane! My EcoBoost feels quick with 300whp. 50 more HP and you’re 400 pounds lighter. Sadly that’s part of the game with these boosted 4 bangers... I’ve been running 26 psi for 3 years... hopefully she doesn’t pop 😂
What did you think was gonna happen putting so much stress on a small stock motor
Bobby Bob there’s many strong small blocks... evo
True, but the civic wasn’t meant to handle 350 hp on stock internals
@@thecarfinatic8074 the old one was the k24 can handle torque this new motor is weak..
Itachlazcano21 ur comparing a car that handles 600 stock block to 350 stock block
He's right. Nothing wrong with this engine but nobody should've expected it to be like a K series. You're gonna take a major hit in reliability going anywhere over 250hp unless you beef up the internals.
Omg i feel like im watching the end scene from halo. So dramatic
Sorry for your loss brother I mean for it to make that amount of power for a 1.5 L is amazing my friend. That’s a blessing it self you got her that high man don’t quit bro keep your chin up !
Its not like these older 90’s hondas man, you gotta be careful, all that power on the little 1.5 without building that block something was bound to happen. Good luck on everything hope you come back stronger
Seems like you have a bad case of "danger to manifold"
Techno Mancer shotld have more likes on this comment lmao
SHUT UP! (closes laptop, pushes NOS button)
Yeah... Could told you that. 300 whp seems to be the limit for this block on stock internals if you want any kind of reliability. I wouldn't dare push those kinda numbers on stock internals. I stopped at 300 with mine and ordered new rods and soon gonna get valves and stronger springs to handle the extra boost. The L15 is a solid motor to begin with but at the end of the day it was designed with tolerances just like any other block and it sucks when stuff like this happens but kids nowadays don't read up when modding. They just slap on bolt-ons and push it to the limit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen stuff like this on the track over the years. It's a tough lesson to learn but when you get it right finally, the results are rewarding. Good luck with the new build and my fellow 10th gen owners take note, if you're gonna push over 350whp make sure you are ready to replace and reinforce: Pistons, rods, valves, springs and head studs. If you think you're gonna try to push 400-500 expect to need a stronger balanced crank and possibly have to sleeve your cylinder walls of they even can with this block. Good luck!
o0Mr Robot0o . Thanks! Yes the motor is getting fully built at the moment with RunBC Rods and Valve Springs, JE Pistons, and Sleeves by Darton Sleeves.
PhongVLG It’s gonna be a solid build but that can’t be cheap. I’m going to guess around 5-10k for parts, labor and new block
I contemplated trading my ST for an SI briefly, but those numbers are easily obtainable with a K04 and supporting mods on STs and just a flash on GTIs. So I think I'm good lol good luck on the rebuild 👌🏽
To bad st are just as fast as a stock 9th gen lol
@@jasonwarnock707 stock sure, it's open diff and too much wheel spin; once you start modding no cars in the segment can hang with STs or GTIs. I was able to run 12s in my ST with just 2k in mods
daphenom45 lol, no. I am friends with arguably the most prolific focus ST tuner in the nation. They have problems of their own. Funny thing is he now owns an FK8 civic type R and is tuning those now. Wonder why.
I just picked up a 2019 Si and did not have to many plans for it I am just happy to be driving a stick shift again my wife didn't want to learn so I gave it up for a long time but the kids are older and I got what I wanted and I love it!!! But your car is awesome and can't wait to see what is next!! Good luck and take care!!
HudsonHornet 22 I got a 2019 Si too and all I did is a prl cobra intake. Very minor but sounds awesome.
All these people talking like they know everything! LOOK HOMIE just build it and really put the power down I can’t wait to see the build come back hard! (JUST SUBSCRIBED can’t wait to see the build💪🏼💯)
Santos Tuner Appreciate it brotha! 👊🏼🔥 Builds back already 💪🏼 and stronger.
PhongVLG haha my bad I just seen this video was 10 months ago! Time to go look at the other videos 💪🏼💪🏼❤️
All these people hating on the L15B7 haven't done their research. The motor can make 400 hp safely, you just gotta make sure you aren't making 364 lb-ft of torque at 4500 RPM...
good joke. No remplacement for displacement. Sure u can make a 500 hp K20 or a 600 hp k24. I just dont know why people invest 7-8-9K into the 1.5T. Instead buy a type r
@@davidtheroux5089 9k in power mods into the 1.5t Si will conservatively put you at around 320wtq/320whp, so more than a stock Type R, and still costing less than a Type R at MSRP. And that's only IF you're able to get the type R at MSRP. Many more dealers are selling Type R's at MSRP now, but its still not uncommon to have to deal with +5 grand in ADM.
Additionally, many people are turned off by the Type R's aesthetic. Also, there isn't as much after market support for the Type R as there is the Civic.
Ted Dorosheff but to me 9k on a 1.5 T is wasting money. And reliability at those power still an issue. It’s same debate as r18 vs k20 back in 2006. Sure u can spend 6k on a r18 to get same power as an Si but why not buying an Si at beginning. Save those 9k buy a type R get flaspro for 750$ and ur at 350 hp with no modification. Add then when you have money more add-on and off course the type R value in 5-10-15 years will be much higher than a 1.5t Si. So you not losing much with it
I was hurt when i saw this notification, but we all know you will come back strong
Can’t wait to see what comes!!!
Ultimately why I sold my FC1 after three months. Aside from all the legitimate problems with the platform, the ceiling of ~350whp is garb. Sorry this happened to you man but at least you’ve got the money to handle it.
Yo watch you come back with a fully built motor, putting down like 900 whp lol. good luck with the rebuild man, hope to see that Si again
900whp out of a 1.5? People just love talking out of their ass
@@junRowdy hello from the future, I’m pretty sure MAP has a 800 1.5😂 or some company I forgot
when takumi blew up his , made me cry
watching yours 😢, we shed a tear with you
I did instantly think of Takumi when I saw this! Don't worry Phong, like a Phoenix from the fire you will rise!
But takumi didn’t tune his car, his dad did. And he is likely faster than anyone even on a stock car in the mountain passes....for a fictional character
From Puerto Rico I wish you the best with your project don’t worry sometimes things happens for a good reason so maybe something better is going to happen to you
🇵🇷😬✌🏻 Mi hermano!
Sorry to hear that man.... Hope all goes well with next engine, glad you're posting videos of it.
Subscribed my man! Keep it going! There's always going to be up and downs to this
365whp?! Yeah the si definitely cannot handle that. I remember watching a video by someone saying not to go over 240whp.
Swaggy Jay the stock clutch can’t handle it
I’m sorry to hear about this man, this was the last video I was expecting. Good luck on the new engine and I look forward to watching the SI V2 build
This is going to be start of an amazing new journey brotha and best believe im staying tuned for every single build video!
Man, it’s been a little over a month since you last posted… and the first one for it to be “my engine blew”… I’ve seen you go through the modding process of your baby, I’m sad watching your efforts blow up… I can only imagine how you feel. I’m glad you haven’t given up on your SI! Stay humble and keep grinding, yadat!
Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block....and replace the piston rings you fried
I'm sorry man, but for the community, you are doing a great thing by documenting it. I am going to definitely keep my FC3 safe. Is there anything that we can do to prevent it? Minus putting another engine under the hood? Also, what are your plans for your car, what engine will you put in there?
Josemari Zafra Goal of the video is to let people be aware that these motors aren’t bullet proof, there is a red zone, just stay under 300 wtq and you’ll be fine, the more you mod the closer to the cliff you become. If you want to really be safe, upgrade your internals as in pistons and rods. Also, we are putting the same L15B7 motor in but this time all the internals will be fully built! Upgraded to withstand such power and more!
If you want high hp then may I suggest a complete engine, clutch and trans rebuild with forged pistons, reinforced block and internals! Why not just drop in a 2.0 accord motor from a junkyard!
A conservative 350 to the wheels hahaha
I remember my coupe caught fire while I was working. Insurance company gave me no explanation for why it caught fire. I remember how heartbroken I was. Hoping for the best for you dude I feel for you
How does that even happen lol
You’ll bounce back, always appreciate some 10th gen content
Reason why I won’t start messing with my 2017 Si until the car hits 60-80K.
Same here with my 2018. I hear stories all the time, and am in a 10th gen group with them pushing the motors, so I have an idea of limits. More than happy to keep it stock for a year or so and then start playing! It's more than fun for a daily anyways :)
Sorry for sounding like a noob, but is it better to wait before pushing it? My 2018 FC3 Si is at 13000 right now, bone stock. Partly due to limited funds, but also not knowing what the hell to do first.
60-80k miles is just breaking the car in, hit 150k before mods lol
Cristian Radical, true that 60-80K is just breaking in but I'm not in the market for a motor overhaul anytime soon. If i want a fast fast car, might as well buy one. Someday when you own your own house and 3 kids you'll realize there are more important things in life than holding onto your childhood. Of course i would love to have EG swapped hatch.......$20-30K into just so it can look okay and maybe hit 11's without having to tear the motor apart everytime i drive it. Speed isn't everything. Oh......my Si......its my daily driver.
NFiltr8Red x
This thing would romp on my stock twin turbod volvo...😐
Never underestimate the power of a civic👌 sorry about the blown engine i feel for ya broh. What a nightmare..
Good luck to you. I can’t wait to see this beautiful car to come back stronger than ever.
This is why k tunner and Hondata scare me till my cars paid off lol
Looking forward to the comeback. I grenaded two motors in my AP1, I know the feeling. Let me know if you need anything bro. 👍
5Point OH Thanks brotha! I really appreciate it! 👊🏼🔥
1.5 leter making over 380 tq. Then people acting like they're surprised when it breaks. How much was safe on a d15 like maybe 230 hp. Yeah this engine is amazing. I'm sold on 10th Gen. Just a k tuner or hondata and I'll be set!
Can’t wait to see what’s next...Awesome seeing you yesterday at BBQ . See you at Hondata brother👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻🙏🏻
Parsecs_Si thanks broth, likewise ! 👊🏼🔥
I get my 2019 si sedan next week... Pretty stoked.
I got mine last year and I couldn't sleep!! It's awesome!! Have fun!
Are y’all going to mod it? Idk if I should or not
good luck on your build. I just started mine and I'm doing it totally different. Im working in the reverse order so I don't walk down the same path. Best of luck bud.
I’m hype for the new build!!!
I wonder how much whp you'll put on the new engine
🚙🚘Dang bro I’m bummed for ya!! I have been a subscriber for a long time!! I bought a 2017 Civic Si right when they came out in the exact same color as you!! Not long after that I came across your channel!! It is cool to share a common passion for cars!! I have enjoyed your content and look forward to the build series you are going to do!! I will have my Si for 4 more weeks because I just bought a Type R!!! I have really enjoyed the Si!! Keep up the great work and God bless ya brother!!🚙🚘
Shaun Christensen Thanks for the kind and surreal collection of words, I appreciate the strong support and am very thankful to have viewers like yourself. People like you keep me going with this build and channel and I truly am appreciative of it all, congrats on your Type R! & thanks for being an amazing supporter brotha!
🚙🚘🙏🏻You’re welcome brother!! Thanks so much I am pretty excited about the Type R!! I hope you have an excellent week and I look forward to seeing more of your videos!! God bless ya!!🙏🏻🚙🚘
CivicSocialClub shed a tear with you
Since no one else is going to say it
LS SWAP IT
Chill I’m just playing
Note to self, do not over do it. Just joined. Going to buy a si as a daily driver. Currently drive a 2018 ram rebel but the gas is killing me. Sure hope I will like the si
Sorry to hear about your car glad you’re not giving up on the build 💪🏽
Sorry 2 hear that bro. I'm on my 2nd K20A2, I'm happily safe with 315hp. I blew my first motor going 100 but earlier in that same day, I was going 145 but it had 225K miles on it. Whenever this engine goes, I'm gonna take the time to build it from scratch and finally throw in the race cams
Prob push every time. They are very tempting thats why I barely push boost. Great videos! I'm looking forward to ur bombass vlogs
350 to the wheels probably pushing 29 psi. That’s conservative for a type R, focus rs, golf type R. From literally 175 whp/205 crank to 350whp/390crank. That’s literally twice the hp. Good video
So you and Nic both blew your motors? He’s been MIA too...
Eddiev8 No, he’s MIA for his own reasons. That’s not my place to say, but I’m the unfortunate one haha
This is what happens it takes time but then you get rebuilt and your gonna be making crazy hp numbers bro
How much boost were you running?
I want to tune my si coupe and I need to know limits. My desired power is 300hp
Thanks for the content man. Now I know what to do when I'm ready to upgrade my si
Sorry for the loss bro. Makin me rethink if i should pull the trigger on a 2019 Si or not.
Pajeet Pooboo do it you won’t regret it
Pajeet Pooboo Keep in mind I was pushing the limits on the stock block while also driving this car aggressively everyday.
Do it! As mentioned above, you won't regret it. I love my 2018 to death just stock. More than enough for daily fun.
Also bigger turbos make more power while being easier on the rods..the mid sized turbos like this can actually be the hardest on these motors
Just get a type r instead
Your going to bounce back bro even harder
Edgar you know it... thanks brotha ! 👊🏼🔥
Thanks for sharing and good luck.
Thats why i love the 8th and 9th gens. Ivtec takes anything.
Just found your channel. Good luck👍🏼 sorry about your car. Keep going my friend dont give up
Good lesson to learn from building power on the new si. Now i know
With that built motor, i know damn well youre gonna break 400+ easy!
Hey man love your vids been watching for awhile now. So long story I have an FK7 and a piston rod shot through the block. Sooo I'm gonna need a whole new rebuild. I live in San Diego and see you at the SDXGen meets sometimes. But I just need help BAAAAAD. I don't know of any shops. Honda won't cover it under warranty. But I have money to pay for a rebuild but the dealership wants 14k can't do that.
Damnit man hate to see this... and to be honest I'm thinking the tune had a major role in detonation.. they're are plenty of L15B7s making over 400whp and more torque then you made and have been running at the power level well over a year. IMO something else caused your engine to blow..
Stoney Baker Well a big factor in what I explained in the video is that I drive my car very spirited. So as I drive this daily and push it constantly it just became a ticking point for the rods. I just want people to be aware of how fragile these motors are and at what point you end up getting a bit too close to the cliff.
400wtq stock bottom end is asking for problems. Not smart
I just feel like the L15 is such a new platform with alot to be learned over time. I dont think you can pin point the weakness to just a dyno number. As I said before they're are plenty of 10th gens over 400 whp and close or passed the 400tq barrier. K20z3allmotorFTW TH-cam channel claims to be the highest HP L15B7 in the world making 465whp on a gtx28r . Granted hes on a Motec ECU which greatly enhances tuning capability, hes still on a stock unopened L15. Ososick media is another example. I know Phong was on a prototype PURE turbo and maybe the amount of torque those smaller frame big wheel turbos make at low rpm is causing the L15s weak point (the rods) to fail. It would be interesting to see a data log of the night your car blew Phong to see exactly what caused the rod to explode out the block. Also I know the factory direct injection fuel system L15s use is a limiting factor right now as there are no aftermarket fuel upgrades at the moment. I wonder what the Air to Fuels were at the time. Could leaning out be the culprit to detonation??
Just subscribe to your channel.. I am curious to see what one of this car with the 1.5L can do with a build motor and nice big turbo on it..
Me wondering how the engine blew, sees dyno reults... nvm
Damn bro my heart breaks for you as if it were my own car that blew. I just have a prl cobra cold air intake tsp stage 1 tune and fx350 clutch on my 10th gen si. I wanted to go e85 and their stage 2 tune but I definitely have my concerns knowing quite a few people have blown these motors up. Most not pushing what your car was even making before it let go. I may have to settle for where the car is at. Cant afford to blow her up just yet
You won't blow her up with the TSP stage 2 tune. Just make sure to run E30-40 and you'll be fine.
Sheesh almost 400 torque is why she went buddy
On October 19, 2017 something similar happened to my 07 Fit sport, the bottom oil pan blew and metal scattered everywhere but I don’t have power like you have just basic bolt on etc. I gave up on Honda now and now drive a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5, I love Mazda now 😁
I've said it before, the k20z3 was the last good motor Honda produced 😐 I mean you can make 450-500whp on pump gas all stock reliably, little 1.5 liter let's go at 350 🤷🏻♂️🙈
The z3 had problems with the oil pumps falling off the block. k20z1 is much better.
@@AcuraLvR82 literally never heard of that and have thrown 500+ whp at 2 of em in my car but ok lol you get my point though, 2011 was the last year with a good motor that can make serious power on stock internals 👍🏻
Horsepower and torque are two different things torque will kill it faster
@Sergio Aguirre wheres the video of that? Lol
Good luck with the build 👍 btw is the si the us equivalent to the euro R ?
Goodluck with her
Keep your head up.
If you would’ve pink slipped those races you’d have yourself spare cars parked in your lot.
It could’ve part of Honda’s oil dilution problem. Reason why I stood away from the si and am now saving the pennies for the K20c1 type r 🙏🏽
360 wheel hp on the stock block what did you expect to happen
If you look at honda parts now website, the short blocks are cheap right now, because they are in warranty for the new si's
I just got a ‘19 si coupe and I’d love to get some of your body modifications, may I please get a list of what you have and where you got them from ?
Wow, never knew these cars could make that kind of power
First Type R sedan
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Keeep it up bro dont give up
I’m sorry bro this is chris__pnr18si that this happened to you. Keep your head up
What turbo were you running? You will come back stronger.
Matt McMahon Thanks brotha! I was running Pure Turbos: instagram.com/p/BuKH6VRh5Hj/?igshid=m32euiy737ur
Might as well buy a type r or boost a 9th gen. 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly. Getting the makspeed kit soon
Add more boost they said, it’ll be fun they said.
Damn bro, that really sucks.
350 is conservative on a B16/18 not a turbocharged honda fit engine
Ouch. The bad side about modding a brand new platform. You can pay the price of something like this.
This is the reason why I'm keeping my warranty intact. After some time, prices eventually go down and it's less costly and you can go all out.
Damn those were some damn great tq numbers bro
That 1.5 engine is impressive.
hell yea sent it