Jason Cammisa on the 2016 Volvo V60 Polestar - Vintage Motor Trend Full Episode 146

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  • @doolderaaz
    @doolderaaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    As a Swede, I can confirm that "Long live the hot Volvo wagon" in Swedish is "Öhlins Polstar IKEA Volvo".

    • @93gt
      @93gt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAAB Bacho Electrolux SKF till dig, landsman!

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But now it's Chinese

    • @SterlingSigurdsen
      @SterlingSigurdsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragospahontu I swear one more douche bag says it’s Chinese I’m gonna slap the 💩 out of them. That’s like saying GM is Chinese because it’s biggest investor (or buyer of debt) is Chinese. Yes the money is backed by a Chinese company, but the car and everything about it is made in Sweden minus a few that are made in South Carolina. And yes some electric polestars are made in China, but those are destined for the Asian market. The others are made in Sweden. And the V60sand V90s are made in Sweden only.

    • @grolribasi
      @grolribasi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@dragospahontu It's been said multiple times that after the deal with Geely, Volvo's quality hasn't fallen. Geely's quality on the other hand has risen.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@grolribasi since Volvo dropped the 5 cylinder diesel it's been a wrap reliability wise

  • @MrMax2299
    @MrMax2299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Honestly the styling, structure and reasoning behind Jason's reviews are brilliant breath of fresh air. Rather than obsessing over numbers and stats, focusing on real world considerations and understanding both the user groups that get the car and the intentions of the producers of vehicles, with a solid understanding of what happens and why. Absolutely wonderful!

    • @f00kinglasrsights89
      @f00kinglasrsights89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome features are always highlighted properly.

    • @realgenuinemakour
      @realgenuinemakour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its like Fortnine for cars

    • @v60polestar88
      @v60polestar88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And believe me it has plenty of performance. The HP and TQ numbers are underrated.

  • @pascutia
    @pascutia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    This video always cracked me up because of it clearly being filmed in California. What an awesome and unique car.

    • @drrockzo4982
      @drrockzo4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Near Mammoth it looks like

    • @mikehagerty7902
      @mikehagerty7902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@drrockzo4982 Yep. Which Jason finally acknowledges around the 9:25 mark with the "...in Sweden...or not" in the narration and the "City of Los Angeles Property" sign.

    • @drrockzo4982
      @drrockzo4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm impressed with the Ohlins the Polestar seemed as smooth and controlled on those horribly rutted out back roads as my old Range Rover.

    • @cmdrgunslinger5955
      @cmdrgunslinger5955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The North Carolina manufacturer plate gave it away at the beginning.

    • @Zorbino88
      @Zorbino88 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are lucky last winter was one for the record books, this winter so far is a complete dud, no snow :(

  • @TheoPhilpot
    @TheoPhilpot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As someone with a non -polestar v60, I'm just glad these cars are getting recognition

    • @Steven-xj2rf
      @Steven-xj2rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have 2013 Volvo S60 T5 AWD in the garage. We nicknamed it the "Tampon" for it being a chick car and being the so so boring to drive.

    • @M67v
      @M67v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Steven-xj2rf I have a 2013 T6. They’re pretty mild in regular driving but wait till you push it on a backroad

    • @mattiasdahlstrom2024
      @mattiasdahlstrom2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Steven-xj2rf automatic transmission? Got a 2007 V50 T5 with stick and it’s pretty zippy

    • @Steven-xj2rf
      @Steven-xj2rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattiasdahlstrom2024 @M67v - Yes AT, but it is more the feel that I am driving a tricycle. It feels like all of the weight is on the front wheels and the way it pivots on its nose. The power band is very bland and doesn't have any punch. There are times where it surprises me with a little rush that makes me think it is not a complete slouch though. It looks better on paper then in reality. (Wife bought the car)

    • @valentin7054
      @valentin7054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Steven-xj2rf You should try the D5, it packs a punch. Great powerband and it got diesel torque for days with its twin turbos. Not a slouch at all! But i agree it is maybe a bit front heavy. I haven't tried personally, but i have heard putting a pair bags of sand in the boot can really make a difference

  • @headwerkn
    @headwerkn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Let’s just take a moment to appreciate the effort and care Jason takes to pronounce non-English names and words correctly.

  • @zachmarks6337
    @zachmarks6337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This review is why I pulled the trigger on a 2016 V60 Polestar and I have loved every minute of ownership since

    • @lewiswhite7023
      @lewiswhite7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re the best ! We ❤️ ours

    • @StevieTruth
      @StevieTruth ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got the 2016 S60 Polestar, but now I have wagon envy 😉

  • @hellraiserMB
    @hellraiserMB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You are easely becoming one of the best car reviewers of all!

  • @Spoolingturbski
    @Spoolingturbski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is one of my favorite tribute Videos by Jason… The knowledge, honor and dedication is unprecedented. To send the legendary T6 off better than the Swedes could.

  • @gavinevans6183
    @gavinevans6183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I had been looking all over for this episode since I never knew Motor Trend decided to be greedy and delete most of their Head2Head/Ignition videos! Thank god they aren't copyright striking this and deleting these.

  • @artpereira
    @artpereira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a 2012 V60 T6 AWD R-Design, and I can confirm the turning radius thing. It is brutal. Also, not sure if it is only mine but the long wheel base makes the body flex a bit when going at an angle over sharp inclines like a steepish driveway and the ride for a semi-performance model is quite stiff so i have to get my wheels straightened every year due to the bad roads where I live.

  • @spacejunk3554
    @spacejunk3554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a 2017 Polestar V60 4 pot since Feb 2022. I nearly bought an RS3 and I am glad I got the Volvo. I simply love the super charger whine in sport and it catches people by surprise. Epic car and this video is brilliant.

  • @elwindewitte
    @elwindewitte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best episode ever! Glad it's back online! 🙏

  • @rahulmandala4930
    @rahulmandala4930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You’re a legend! Love you and the Volvo!

  • @MartinFnGolej
    @MartinFnGolej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Duuude, i saw this vid years ago when it came out on the ingnition channel, when the car was up to date. I spend years looking for it! Its finally back! So fun to watch if you care at least little about Volvos :)

  • @adamant262
    @adamant262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been a Volvo fan since I was a teenager. Especially the Red Block and the T5. Good show Jason.

  • @Dunwelll
    @Dunwelll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love this one!
    I've tried so hard to get my wife to buy one of these. She's a non-car person, but LOVES Rebel Blue .

    • @dorsetwurzle1491
      @dorsetwurzle1491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a D5 XC60 in rebel blue, I also tried for one of these and got a no 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @M67v
      @M67v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dorsetwurzle1491 no offense but I pray I never get in a marriage like that

    • @Xolition
      @Xolition 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did this sell in the US?

    • @M67v
      @M67v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xolition yea

  • @devongibbs8144
    @devongibbs8144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please continue posting these videos, it’s actually the best car content ever

  • @edjack1993
    @edjack1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As entertaining as ever 👏🏻 This is such a great series. I scratched the fast wagon itch with a BMW 550i a few years ago. But on reflection, 4WD/AWD plus power feels like the best combo for a wagon. This Volvo nails it!

  • @timmyzhou1
    @timmyzhou1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jason!
    We really miss those ignition videos from you!

  • @nurburgrinding
    @nurburgrinding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very few content makes you happier than these ol' reviews, thanks man

  • @danielm2934
    @danielm2934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I could have afforded the v60 polestar when I bought my V60CC. Such an amazing vehicle. Jason, awesome video:)

  • @chikenbagdotcom9305
    @chikenbagdotcom9305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for these videos Jason

  • @ronhuff9219
    @ronhuff9219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of your most entertaining episodes ever,... thanks 👍🏽

  • @TZ281
    @TZ281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the one I’ve been waiting for.

  • @FrogmanKouki
    @FrogmanKouki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 2:47 I'm pretty sure those are 6 piston brakes in the front.

  • @steadybreeze1443
    @steadybreeze1443 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is one of the best automotive journalists/ historian.. saw this originally 2015 had to see again 2024

  • @JorgeFrancoVilla
    @JorgeFrancoVilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheerful car content. It does not get much better than this.

  • @bump_draft
    @bump_draft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm impressed at your tail-out shenanigans. I've had a really hard time getting mine to rotate. I ended up putting on the stiffest rear sway bar I could find, which should help rotation, but mostly it just understeers less now.

    • @str8
      @str8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      try turning off the esc in the car settings. It's supposed to lock the power to 50/50

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:55 When this video was made, BMW *made* performance station wagons. They still do. We just haven't gotten a fast wagon in the US since the E61 535i left our market.

  • @Dreamlink91
    @Dreamlink91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best V60 video I have seen in my life. I own myself Dark Blue 2015 V60 D5 AWD Polestar Tuned Ocean Race and it drives like that :D I enjoyed every single second of this video ❤

  • @NEWNATURE777
    @NEWNATURE777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great presentation as always Jason, I'm glad I found your personal channel, got a new Sub 😃

  • @Luuseens
    @Luuseens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, I loved you in "Deadpool 3: The Midlife Crisis"!
    (Seriously though, loving all the videos. Thank you.)

  • @CorruptedPlist
    @CorruptedPlist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the sedan version thanks to this video!

  • @carlosomarresto5033
    @carlosomarresto5033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason your the best car journalist of all times !

  • @fatheadmediapro
    @fatheadmediapro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Is that Adam Sandler in the bushes”? What the hell 😂 love these vids and the new Hagerty vids. Keep ‘em coming Jason.

  • @jodanlalala
    @jodanlalala ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the drag pulling sound for fishing while he’s also reeling at the same time and the fishing line is still wrapped in the Stren wrapper😂 great video of the car though and helpful for someone who is looking to get one!

  • @fredandre3415
    @fredandre3415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As owner of a 2017 P* V60 i can only confirm... great to drive, powerful and comfortable. And if you have light foot also economic considering the weight and power.

  • @collinsenosh
    @collinsenosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply a genius story-teller.

  • @liamwhitbread4363
    @liamwhitbread4363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite review of yours... so much so I bought one

  • @picernjm
    @picernjm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love every single one of your videos Jason. You're the best

  • @jeromep3182
    @jeromep3182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now this is a car I love and I remember going for a ride in one when I used to work at a dealership I remember the Volvo Forman took me for a ride in a customers car and after that I fell in love with this rebel blue wagon.

  • @SoulRollerFIN
    @SoulRollerFIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We got a V60 Diesel hybrid last Summer and have been super happy. Volvos are super comfy and practical. And perform well.

  • @Petrospect
    @Petrospect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you went all in for the Polestar joke in the Polestar 1 review 😁🤣

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great car with that classic eye-popping colour.

  • @nickcheema907
    @nickcheema907 ปีที่แล้ว

    this iteration of the V60 and it's S60 counterpart (with the inline 6 cylinder) will become collector cars no doubt and also relatively rare with such low volumes brought to USA/Canada. In 2015, Canada only got about 12 S60 Polestars

  • @NobleOmnicide
    @NobleOmnicide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jason, you're a great car guy! Love your content. But that fishing scene at the beginning cracked me up with how you're holding that spinning reel! 🤣

    • @richo3411
      @richo3411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't see any line on it either.

    • @seewell8168
      @seewell8168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering how many people would point out him holding the rod upside down. It’s not a fishing show so who cares haha.

  • @jeffreyb.1657
    @jeffreyb.1657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8spd zf, better infotainment (apple carplay wireless...you can get it added....)....wish they still did this...great video.

  • @evanmcknight2566
    @evanmcknight2566 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, this is so well done. Subscribed.

  • @dmalikovski
    @dmalikovski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Jason for bringing us the New Top Gear.

  • @fifthbusiness1678
    @fifthbusiness1678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the Adam Sandler bit! I rented a V60 (not Polestar) just prior to the pandemic and drove it through the Balkans (Montenegro, primarily), and just loved it.

  • @nednash8649
    @nednash8649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my 2020 V60 T5, it could only be improved by the I6 in this video, and in my (former) '09 V60. What an engine.

    • @TheMashto
      @TheMashto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2020 V60 is among the most beautiful cars out there

    • @brrrrrrrr8793
      @brrrrrrrr8793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A turbo 5 cylinder and a manual like the one in the old R models would be even better

  • @Kalepsis
    @Kalepsis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, was this really 6 years ago?
    I wish the Polestar wagon had kept up with the E63 AMG wagon.

  • @StevieTruth
    @StevieTruth ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the 2016 S60 version of this car, and I can say it's awesome. I miss my standard STi, but this thing is way more comfortable, and the power? My goodness the power. My only question is, should I modify the exhaust to hear more of that I-6 sound?

  • @lifelong5425
    @lifelong5425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    VOLVO WAGONS...nothing compares....owner of an 04 XC70 T5 AWD. Just added an older version Thule cross bar rack and cargo box...fits the age...Next, widen the stance.....and then...stand and admire. That might be a 2016 version, but damn....it goes like the frikkin wind..super video to enjoy...thanks.

  • @pbjracing14yearsago49
    @pbjracing14yearsago49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're back! Eagerly waiting for your q400 and 570s review!!!

  • @wallcouldtalk
    @wallcouldtalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video made me want a Polestar SO badly the first time I saw it.

  • @JessicaTranaker
    @JessicaTranaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know why I enjoy looking at a review of the car I drive! But it is fun, Länge leve Volvo kombin!

  • @mrsmirnoff8837
    @mrsmirnoff8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:47 saying 4 piston callipers but showing the 6 pistoned

  • @idkdrew
    @idkdrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend owns one of these and when he took me on a drive I was blown away, I would kill to own in the future

  • @KuyaArbee
    @KuyaArbee ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish VOLVO still made their polestar cars like this! what a gem of a car

  • @daenglishpatient
    @daenglishpatient 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason Camissa is a welcome addition to the greats of motoring journalists. Headed, once, by Clarkson, now replaced by Chris Harris.

    • @subutaynoyan5372
      @subutaynoyan5372 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Harris is more a driver than a journalist if you ask me.

  • @NotaRandomYTuser
    @NotaRandomYTuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe the front brakes are 6 pistons, not 4 as mentioned.

  • @BrettBaker
    @BrettBaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK which is it? The video description says 2016 and the graphic at 1:08 says 2015. I gots to know.

  • @simsneon2
    @simsneon2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason’s hilarious did I mention give this man a raise before give him another one he deserves it

  • @bump_draft
    @bump_draft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my v60 polestar! It's amazing in frigid conditions! Problem is I live in sunny southern California.

  • @smc1377
    @smc1377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly how I still drive my 2001 XC70 with the I-5 Turbo and why I refuse to get rid of it. Too much fun.

  • @minimoe2008
    @minimoe2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Volvo. Next up for sure will be the T8 V60

  • @markvelasco5824
    @markvelasco5824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I have been sesrching for this video! Any chance I will see the Supercar Superbuild Maserati Ghibli episode in your channel?

  • @eTiMaGo
    @eTiMaGo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only had the humble 180hp FWD version of this wagon for a while, but man do I miss it....

  • @debjitjana7438
    @debjitjana7438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are of Motortrend.. How did they let go of all their videos.

  • @adzaharmdsharipin641
    @adzaharmdsharipin641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like 6 piston caliper up front instead of 4

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, so I looked at one today, and... you sold me. I'm buying one.
    The last of the Polestar straight-six turbo T6s. In white.
    I can't decide if this is a case of great minds thinking alike, or fools' minds never differing.

  • @Dudeman9339
    @Dudeman9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice of MT to let you use the footage.

  • @joeleonard9965
    @joeleonard9965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The red sand/dirt under the snow in the first shot should've been the giveaway it wasn't Sweden but it took a second watch to notice it.

  • @wally560
    @wally560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adam Sandler in the bushes, So Cal 4 Sweden & a Subaru hat. LOL, priceless.

  • @Staatus_Quo
    @Staatus_Quo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the idea of the Polestar V60, but they are hard to find, and I'm very happy with my T5 V60.
    Plus, the T5 2.0 has the superior Geartronic 8 speed. But, I am 100hp down on the Polestar unfortunately. Still love it though.
    Oh, the Rebel Blue is so choice too.

  • @patrickticonchuk9854
    @patrickticonchuk9854 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason I love you......but you were totally holding that fishing reel backwards 😂

  • @joshuaalmonte8546
    @joshuaalmonte8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More regular car Ignitions please! The people have spoken!

  • @sailpro2001
    @sailpro2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen this vid few times before... but never noticed SOUTH CAROLINA manufacturers plates in Sweeden???
    Whats the deal??

  • @jaybee6280
    @jaybee6280 ปีที่แล้ว

    love wagons! I just bought a v60!

  • @billballin6948
    @billballin6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Brembo 4 pistons up front”. Nope. Definitely 6 pistons @2:47

  • @subutaynoyan5372
    @subutaynoyan5372 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing this the first time on Motor Trend. The moment that speedometer with MPH showed up, I was saying ''You're sure that's not Alaska?'', because my non American brain couldn't even identify anything snowy with California back then.

  • @vulturekim88
    @vulturekim88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @
    JasonCammisa 2:47 6-piston front brake, not 4-piston....

  • @valdastamasauskas
    @valdastamasauskas ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Jason. Really nice car and nice video too. Except that hat of yours that says "subaru rally team" :)

  • @buzzwords1996
    @buzzwords1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely a dope wagon!

  • @leonidchumack4142
    @leonidchumack4142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason, as a 2020 V60 t8 polestar engineered owner I am dying to hear your opinions on it, whether good or bad : ) I’m hoping you think it’s a current gen v60 with a bit of Polestar 1 baked in : ) I liked your S60 t8 review.
    Cheers

  • @Elias_Adolfsson
    @Elias_Adolfsson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m thinking of buying a v60 polestar but honestly I’m not sure which one to go for, the 4 cylinder or the 6 cylinder. Cuz the 6 cylinder obviously sounds better but it also has that ugly 6 speed gearbox. But like surely with a down pipe on the 4 cylinder it won’t sound as bad and it has that active exhaust. But what are other peoples opinions on which one to get

    • @Tc93.93
      @Tc93.93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love the feel of the 2.0

  • @karimkurji2578
    @karimkurji2578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Deep down Jason is a Subaru fan boy @7:55 :)

  • @Thurrock91
    @Thurrock91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, your going to make me buy a Volvo again

  • @stangalucian331
    @stangalucian331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are holding the fishing rod upside-down 😅

  • @MattJelonek
    @MattJelonek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, was this really filmed in Sweden? It’s got a US plate at the rear with US spec headlamps…

  • @M67v
    @M67v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Volvo

  • @KeebaRichards
    @KeebaRichards 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought one last November great car

  • @korayorhun7639
    @korayorhun7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please review Hyundai I20N, please... It's manual =)

  • @clinteagles9357
    @clinteagles9357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sold mine 3 months ago. Got more than I paid for it 3 years ago. Still sad and miss her dearly

  • @andru12qw
    @andru12qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brembo 4 piston calipers up front? you mean six?

  • @michaelday6987
    @michaelday6987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS is my dream car. Just a little out of my price range.

  • @Kawaii_Life.
    @Kawaii_Life. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s very few aftermarket support for these cars.. I wish it was stronger because this is a great car to build upon.

  • @jfkim7435
    @jfkim7435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone living in Sweden, even the landscape is a giveaway that it is NOT Sweden. You would be arrested for driving that in the wilderness.

  • @stephenhisel9395
    @stephenhisel9395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing holding the fishing rod upside-down was intentional for comedic purpose?I hope.