LeRoy, will you do some more cool videos about the Verselab MV-1 ? I always enjoy watching your MV-1 videos and learn a lot about using the Verselab thanks to you.
@@RichardCyberPunk Thank you so much for your encouragement, it's appreciated.🙂 I do intend to make more videos on the verselab (I have outlines for the next half dozen videos), music production, theory, and composition, it's just been a bit of a... challenging time. Hopefully my next video, on Looper Tracks, will be out before the end of this month. It's difficult to be more specific (or even say if it's possible to complete this month), health issues , etc.
@@AntAciieed I'm working on the video on Looper Tracks this week... not looking forward to all the audio I'm going to have to analyze on my computer. 😆 The descriptions of what the Looper Tracks options and settings do is TERRIBLE, but I'll figure it out (I hope? 🤭). I don't find them usable except for very specific tasks, but I'm going to do my best to make some useful examples to show best-case scenario... got side-tracked ... thanks for the encouragement. 😁
@@lonniechance5498 Thank you so much. You don't know how long I struggle with, and stress over, the prep for these videos. It's comments like this that keep me going. Because of my seizure disorder I can't spend the time in front of a screen editing the videos (which is frustrating to me), and I'm glad they can be of some use. 😊
First off thank you for doing these Leroy! They’re so helpful! The one question I had (which apologies if this is off-scope for this vid) is, do you know how to record vocals with the vocal multifx coming through as you’re recording? I seem to be able to set the take sample to go to the vocal effect after the fact, but I can’t hear it as I’m recording and record with it on… and related, are you planning vocal processor/fx video(s)?
I'll admit that the effects, especially live, can be a bit... frustrating. When the vocal processor is on, press SHIFT+ON (on the vocal processor) to select and activate one of the presets, you should then hear the effect live. I'm not in front of the verselab, at the moment, but I believe this works both for mic input, and line in. The total effects (reverb and delay), unfortunately, will not affect line in live, only mic in (I get around this with my synth, where I want delay and reverb added, using an XLR to TS adapter, essentially turning my line in signal from my synth to an XLR input). As to future videos, I have a lot planned, and I'm just starting to take some time to figure out how to make the videos better... after the bulk of the verselab stuff is done, we'll be covering a bunch of other music related topics. As far as future verselab videos go, the current plan, and videos I already have outlines for are: -Looper Tracks -MFX (total FX MAY be in this video, or possibly a separate video) -The Vocal Processor -FX on the Vocal Track -More Details on SONG mode -Project based videos
@@Parallelwurlds I appreciate the encourage so much, it's what keeps me motivated. I haven't been able to make new videos in MONTHS because my phone died, I'm so happy to be able to do this again. If you want more background on me, be sure to visit my website (link in description) at LeRoy3rd dot com. If you get stuck, or have questions, make sure you ask here, or at the Facebook group (also in the description).
Thank you soooo much for the video. I’ve only watched it once and learned a lot. Like your other videos I’ll probably have to re-watch them a few times before my mush-brain can absorb the detail. Thanks for sharing your expertise 👏👏👏
@@ljljlj1 I was having a really hard time trying to fit the main points into this one. When I put out the video that's a more in depth look at SONG mode, specifically, it may help. Also, at some point in the future, I intend to make some videos that are project based, where we take things we've discussed, and actually use it to make something that, while not a masterpiece, will sound vaguely musical. Thanks for the encouragement, it's what keeps me focused on making new videos. Next up is LOOPER TRACKS (spoiler alert, they're not really that useful).
@ljljlj1 At some point I do plan to get to these sections, but there are a lot of other things to cover first. And, truth be told, I typically skip most of that on the verselab... using the EQ and compressors on the verselab always feels a lot more frustrating to me than working in a DAW, and I tend to use the verselab, mostly, to get ideas down, not for its intended use of finishing a polished song on the hardware. That being said, I've heard a lot of finished songs from the verselab where these features weren't used at all, it's definitely possible to get a usable result without needing to do a lot of tweaking here if you're mindful of the individual tracks while you're building your song. 🙂
@@ljljlj1In the meantime, you might also check out a book called "Step by Step Mixing" by Björgvin Benediktsson. You can find it on Amazon (it's pretty inexpensive), and it's a pretty good place to start. (Note, I have no affiliation with this book or author, but I purchased it myself, and I think it's great at pointing you in the right direction).
Could you do a video about recording external instruments into the vocal track?. I'm not a vocalist so I'm trying to find a creative way to used the vocal track
Hi LeRoy. Thx for your tutorial. One Question. At 15.30 you are talking about that is not possible to Layer Vocal takes. But it should be (look at the manual at Page 8) Or do i misunderstand you here?
@@ThisisRends I may not have been entirely clear. You can't have the *same* vocal take playing over itself. So, if you have a long sample, and it's playing, if you play it again (while it's still playing), the first instance will stop, and it will start playing over from the beginning. Some people expect that if you, say, press the pad to start the sample while it was still saying, it would play the same sample OVER the sample that's already playing (in other words, you'd have the same sample playing over itself, you'd, in essence, have the same sample playing twice at the same time). You can, as the manual shows, on page 8, use a vocal take over and over (but notice that the vocal takes never overlap THEMSELVES, as an example, Take 2, on the diagram in the manual, is only playing ONCE at a time. Multiple times throughout the song, but it always ends before it's started again). Also, you CAN layer vocal takes as long as you're using *different* vocal takes (take 1, 2, and 3, for instance, can all play at the same time). The point I was trying to get across is, each pad/vocal take, is a monophonic instrument on the sequencer. If take 1 is playing, and it's, say, a minute long, and 30 seconds in you trigger take 1, again, it will stop take 1 (that had 30 seconds left), and restart it from the beginning of the take when you press the pad to trigger it.
If the description above still isn't clear, let me know, and I'll post a quick follow-up video, tomorrow or Monday, demonstrating more clearly what I'm trying to explain.
@@ThisisRends I'm glad. Doing these videos in a single take (even with my notes off screen) means that if I start wandering off topic, I can forget what I was talking about, or not explain as clearly as I'd planned. Definitely keep asking if I've been unclear, it's likely other people had the same questions, and if I've made an error, or confused people, I do my best to make corrections.
Hey leroy, When I record a melody in sequencer Mode in, for example, 27 steps and I want to create a sequence of two sections in song-Mode, the end of the first section does Not lead directly to the second one. Instead, it plays the whole bar (in this case 32 steps), so it just repeats the very first beginning of the first section and THEN jumps to the Second section. Is there a way to solve this? (this wasn't easy to explain as a non-Native speaker but i hope it's understandable) thank you very much.
@@mirceajoachimkrewer8302 The problem you're seeing is because after the SEQ portion of the workflow every measure is 4 beats (more specifically, every measure has to be 4 quarter notes), always, and there's no way to change this. So say you had a sequence that was 3 beats, when you get to the SECTION or SONG portion of the workflow, it will play your 3 beats, but then just start that sequence over and play beat 1 again, to make up the 4th beat. There are things you can, sometimes, do to work around this, for instance if you want to write in 3/4, you can just write 4 measures of 3/4 (though the measures won't be counted as 3/4 on the sequencer or in SONG mode), but the verselab will count it as 3 measures of 4/4 (these have the same number of quarter notes). The verselab is only designed for 4/4, and for full measures, unfortunately. You can test this out by making a single sequence that's 12 steps long, with 3 notes, one note on each beat (a note on sequencer steps 1, 5, and 9), I tend to use notes going up in pitch so I can easily hear when the measure resets. When you play this on SEQ, you'll hear that the sequence just restarts when it gets to the end, as you'd expect. But if you play it in SECTION (make it 2 measures long) it will play note 1, 2, 3, then 1, then 1, 2, 3, then 1. It gets to the end of the sequence and starts it over, to make up the 4th beat it needs, but then it restarts the sequence from the beginning, which is why it will repeat note 1 twice. You'll also see this more clearly on SONG, if you watch what it's counting. Even though you only have 3 beats, 12 steps, and you've set 2 measures, in SONG when you play it, it will still count 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4. The 4th non-existent beat will be from the sequence starting over, and it will again start the sequence over when it gets to the next measure (just like in SECTION). I know this can be a bit frustrating when first encountering it, but, unfortunately this is really a 4/4 box, and that's the end of the story. You can certainly write in compound meters (6/8, 9/8, etc), and odd meters like 3/4, but it will take a bit more thought and work, and you'll have to write your music so it has an equivalent of 4 beats in 4/4 when it ends (like writing 4 measures of 3/4, since it has the same nber of quarter notes as 3 measures of 4/4). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, this is definitely a frustration, and I'd love Roland to add the ability to specify a time signature. For now I just encourage everyone to lean in to the limitation, there's a lot of ground to cover in 4/4.
@@magicizaproblem With my seizures my memory is pretty bad (and it severely limits how much time I can spend on-screen, watching videos, etc), so I'm not entirely sure what I said or did in the video... if you could give an approximate time in the video, I'd be happy to take a look and elaborate. That being said, the manual and parameter guide are pretty sparse when it comes to vocal takes and looper tracks, and a lot of what I've learned is through experimentation, and asking questions in various verselab groups. In the manual the vocal takes are discussed starting at page 37, and "Recording the vocals", point 6, discusses what I think you're asking. If you're still having problems, or want some clarification, add more details, and I'll be happy to try and be more clear. 🙂
@magicizaproblem I see what you mean. That's not in the manual, just learned from using it, and diving in to the vocal takes. Usually when I'm preparing for a video I try to break a system, to see what it can and can't do, and this is the result of doing that. I was attempting to see how these features worked, and ran into some strange results, which pushed me to run more tests to try and figure out what was happening so that I could avoid issues in the future.
@@magicizaproblem Sorry, I went to 19:00 from your first comment. At 20:40, this isn't something that was in the manual, I think I discovered it by random experimentation (using some of the basic combinations used in other sections of the verselab, like the SEQ portion of the workflow). It's also possible that I learned this in a FB group, or forum, I'm not sure.
LeRoy, will you do some more cool videos about the Verselab MV-1 ? I always enjoy watching your MV-1 videos and learn a lot about using the Verselab thanks to you.
@@RichardCyberPunk Thank you so much for your encouragement, it's appreciated.🙂 I do intend to make more videos on the verselab (I have outlines for the next half dozen videos), music production, theory, and composition, it's just been a bit of a... challenging time. Hopefully my next video, on Looper Tracks, will be out before the end of this month. It's difficult to be more specific (or even say if it's possible to complete this month), health issues , etc.
Awesome video
@@loubang100 Thanks. 😊
Thanks Leroy 👍🏽 😊 from Anthony, aka Rothman
@@AntAciieed I'm working on the video on Looper Tracks this week... not looking forward to all the audio I'm going to have to analyze on my computer. 😆 The descriptions of what the Looper Tracks options and settings do is TERRIBLE, but I'll figure it out (I hope? 🤭). I don't find them usable except for very specific tasks, but I'm going to do my best to make some useful examples to show best-case scenario... got side-tracked ... thanks for the encouragement. 😁
Thank you!! Big kudos to you man....I could have never figured all the things you have shared with us. you must have a lot of patience 😎
@@lonniechance5498 Thank you so much. You don't know how long I struggle with, and stress over, the prep for these videos. It's comments like this that keep me going. Because of my seizure disorder I can't spend the time in front of a screen editing the videos (which is frustrating to me), and I'm glad they can be of some use. 😊
First off thank you for doing these Leroy! They’re so helpful! The one question I had (which apologies if this is off-scope for this vid) is, do you know how to record vocals with the vocal multifx coming through as you’re recording? I seem to be able to set the take sample to go to the vocal effect after the fact, but I can’t hear it as I’m recording and record with it on… and related, are you planning vocal processor/fx video(s)?
I'll admit that the effects, especially live, can be a bit... frustrating. When the vocal processor is on, press SHIFT+ON (on the vocal processor) to select and activate one of the presets, you should then hear the effect live. I'm not in front of the verselab, at the moment, but I believe this works both for mic input, and line in. The total effects (reverb and delay), unfortunately, will not affect line in live, only mic in (I get around this with my synth, where I want delay and reverb added, using an XLR to TS adapter, essentially turning my line in signal from my synth to an XLR input).
As to future videos, I have a lot planned, and I'm just starting to take some time to figure out how to make the videos better... after the bulk of the verselab stuff is done, we'll be covering a bunch of other music related topics.
As far as future verselab videos go, the current plan, and videos I already have outlines for are:
-Looper Tracks
-MFX (total FX MAY be in this video, or possibly a separate video)
-The Vocal Processor
-FX on the Vocal Track
-More Details on SONG mode
-Project based videos
Thank you Leroy - love your style and how you explain things.
@@anthonyriley2153 I appreciate that, thanks. 😊
I just start watching your vids yesterday. Thanks for the new upload 👍
@@Parallelwurlds I appreciate the encourage so much, it's what keeps me motivated. I haven't been able to make new videos in MONTHS because my phone died, I'm so happy to be able to do this again. If you want more background on me, be sure to visit my website (link in description) at LeRoy3rd dot com. If you get stuck, or have questions, make sure you ask here, or at the Facebook group (also in the description).
Thank you soooo much for the video.
I’ve only watched it once and learned a lot.
Like your other videos I’ll probably have to re-watch them a few times before my mush-brain can absorb the detail.
Thanks for sharing your expertise 👏👏👏
@@ljljlj1 I was having a really hard time trying to fit the main points into this one. When I put out the video that's a more in depth look at SONG mode, specifically, it may help. Also, at some point in the future, I intend to make some videos that are project based, where we take things we've discussed, and actually use it to make something that, while not a masterpiece, will sound vaguely musical. Thanks for the encouragement, it's what keeps me focused on making new videos. Next up is LOOPER TRACKS (spoiler alert, they're not really that useful).
@@LeRoy3rdmany thanks again. Any chance you could be planning a mixing/mastering tutorial? Them there be dark arts…😮
@ljljlj1 At some point I do plan to get to these sections, but there are a lot of other things to cover first. And, truth be told, I typically skip most of that on the verselab... using the EQ and compressors on the verselab always feels a lot more frustrating to me than working in a DAW, and I tend to use the verselab, mostly, to get ideas down, not for its intended use of finishing a polished song on the hardware. That being said, I've heard a lot of finished songs from the verselab where these features weren't used at all, it's definitely possible to get a usable result without needing to do a lot of tweaking here if you're mindful of the individual tracks while you're building your song. 🙂
@@ljljlj1In the meantime, you might also check out a book called "Step by Step Mixing" by Björgvin Benediktsson. You can find it on Amazon (it's pretty inexpensive), and it's a pretty good place to start. (Note, I have no affiliation with this book or author, but I purchased it myself, and I think it's great at pointing you in the right direction).
Could you do a video about recording external instruments into the vocal track?. I'm not a vocalist so I'm trying to find a creative way to used the vocal track
@@loubang100 It works exactly the same way as using the mic input, except in the input settings you select LINE, instead of external mic. 😊
@@LeRoy3rd cool thanks.
Hi LeRoy. Thx for your tutorial. One Question. At 15.30 you are talking about that is not possible to Layer Vocal takes. But it should be (look at the manual at Page 8) Or do i misunderstand you here?
@@ThisisRends I may not have been entirely clear. You can't have the *same* vocal take playing over itself. So, if you have a long sample, and it's playing, if you play it again (while it's still playing), the first instance will stop, and it will start playing over from the beginning. Some people expect that if you, say, press the pad to start the sample while it was still saying, it would play the same sample OVER the sample that's already playing (in other words, you'd have the same sample playing over itself, you'd, in essence, have the same sample playing twice at the same time).
You can, as the manual shows, on page 8, use a vocal take over and over (but notice that the vocal takes never overlap THEMSELVES, as an example, Take 2, on the diagram in the manual, is only playing ONCE at a time. Multiple times throughout the song, but it always ends before it's started again).
Also, you CAN layer vocal takes as long as you're using *different* vocal takes (take 1, 2, and 3, for instance, can all play at the same time).
The point I was trying to get across is, each pad/vocal take, is a monophonic instrument on the sequencer. If take 1 is playing, and it's, say, a minute long, and 30 seconds in you trigger take 1, again, it will stop take 1 (that had 30 seconds left), and restart it from the beginning of the take when you press the pad to trigger it.
If the description above still isn't clear, let me know, and I'll post a quick follow-up video, tomorrow or Monday, demonstrating more clearly what I'm trying to explain.
@@LeRoy3rd Got it. Didn’t know you are talking about the same Vocal take. This made it clear. Thx!
@@ThisisRends I'm glad. Doing these videos in a single take (even with my notes off screen) means that if I start wandering off topic, I can forget what I was talking about, or not explain as clearly as I'd planned. Definitely keep asking if I've been unclear, it's likely other people had the same questions, and if I've made an error, or confused people, I do my best to make corrections.
@@LeRoy3rdwell i should have watched until the end. At 24min you mentioned Layering multiple Takes. All fine with your video.
Hey leroy,
When I record a melody in sequencer Mode in, for example, 27 steps and I want to create a sequence of two sections in song-Mode, the end of the first section does Not lead directly to the second one. Instead, it plays the whole bar (in this case 32 steps), so it just repeats the very first beginning of the first section and THEN jumps to the Second section. Is there a way to solve this? (this wasn't easy to explain as a non-Native speaker but i hope it's understandable) thank you very much.
@@mirceajoachimkrewer8302 The problem you're seeing is because after the SEQ portion of the workflow every measure is 4 beats (more specifically, every measure has to be 4 quarter notes), always, and there's no way to change this. So say you had a sequence that was 3 beats, when you get to the SECTION or SONG portion of the workflow, it will play your 3 beats, but then just start that sequence over and play beat 1 again, to make up the 4th beat. There are things you can, sometimes, do to work around this, for instance if you want to write in 3/4, you can just write 4 measures of 3/4 (though the measures won't be counted as 3/4 on the sequencer or in SONG mode), but the verselab will count it as 3 measures of 4/4 (these have the same number of quarter notes). The verselab is only designed for 4/4, and for full measures, unfortunately.
You can test this out by making a single sequence that's 12 steps long, with 3 notes, one note on each beat (a note on sequencer steps 1, 5, and 9), I tend to use notes going up in pitch so I can easily hear when the measure resets.
When you play this on SEQ, you'll hear that the sequence just restarts when it gets to the end, as you'd expect. But if you play it in SECTION (make it 2 measures long) it will play note 1, 2, 3, then 1, then 1, 2, 3, then 1. It gets to the end of the sequence and starts it over, to make up the 4th beat it needs, but then it restarts the sequence from the beginning, which is why it will repeat note 1 twice. You'll also see this more clearly on SONG, if you watch what it's counting. Even though you only have 3 beats, 12 steps, and you've set 2 measures, in SONG when you play it, it will still count 1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4. The 4th non-existent beat will be from the sequence starting over, and it will again start the sequence over when it gets to the next measure (just like in SECTION).
I know this can be a bit frustrating when first encountering it, but, unfortunately this is really a 4/4 box, and that's the end of the story. You can certainly write in compound meters (6/8, 9/8, etc), and odd meters like 3/4, but it will take a bit more thought and work, and you'll have to write your music so it has an equivalent of 4 beats in 4/4 when it ends (like writing 4 measures of 3/4, since it has the same nber of quarter notes as 3 measures of 4/4).
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, this is definitely a frustration, and I'd love Roland to add the ability to specify a time signature. For now I just encourage everyone to lean in to the limitation, there's a lot of ground to cover in 4/4.
Thanks for the detailed Response. You're a really awesome TH-camr 🙃
Hey Leroy! Can you tell me where in the manual it talks about the thing you did where you assigned a vocal take to a section?
@@magicizaproblem With my seizures my memory is pretty bad (and it severely limits how much time I can spend on-screen, watching videos, etc), so I'm not entirely sure what I said or did in the video... if you could give an approximate time in the video, I'd be happy to take a look and elaborate. That being said, the manual and parameter guide are pretty sparse when it comes to vocal takes and looper tracks, and a lot of what I've learned is through experimentation, and asking questions in various verselab groups.
In the manual the vocal takes are discussed starting at page 37, and "Recording the vocals", point 6, discusses what I think you're asking.
If you're still having problems, or want some clarification, add more details, and I'll be happy to try and be more clear. 🙂
@@LeRoy3rd the part of the video im talkin about is at the 19:00 mark
20:40 to be exact
@magicizaproblem I see what you mean. That's not in the manual, just learned from using it, and diving in to the vocal takes. Usually when I'm preparing for a video I try to break a system, to see what it can and can't do, and this is the result of doing that. I was attempting to see how these features worked, and ran into some strange results, which pushed me to run more tests to try and figure out what was happening so that I could avoid issues in the future.
@@magicizaproblem Sorry, I went to 19:00 from your first comment. At 20:40, this isn't something that was in the manual, I think I discovered it by random experimentation (using some of the basic combinations used in other sections of the verselab, like the SEQ portion of the workflow). It's also possible that I learned this in a FB group, or forum, I'm not sure.