UPGRADE to AMP 2 REGULATOR : FX IMPACT M3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I am upgrading my AMP regulator with the new brass piston.
Im testing the difference between the standard 16 mm plastic piston and the brass piston in both fill time and spread.
Enjoy
Peter P/Viking Airgunner
Always appreciate your videos and great content. In my opinion, an appropriate test for regulators is to shoot them from the max fill pressure till the reg setting pressure and check ES and SD based on the whole string and not only 5,10 or 20 shots...
Love your videos. Thanks for this one. I could be completely high, but it made me wonder if fill time (or pressure drop after a shot), could somehow be used to set the valve. Of course, maybe the gauge would have to show pressure to a couple of decimal places but….
I want to understand your question correct. Can you explain in a different way? 🤔
I m a bit on the slow side😜😂
Great video, as always. What an incredibly good spread!!! Thank you for your work.
Thanks buddy 🤗
Hi Peter , i just installed the gen 3 2nd regulator from huma air . i bought the high pressure version (100/200bar ) I increased the 1st regulator to 180 bar and the 2nd reg to 150bar but if i unscrew the bottle now the whole system degasses ,1st and 2nd reg drop to zero . Normaly the 2nd stays under pressure . Velocity is not consistent . What could be the problem.
Usually the preasure remains in the plenum, so I cant really say. But I would rather have it like you instead of not being able to degass the plenum 🤔
@@VikingAirgunner HI Peter i solved the problem . I took the reg back out and found a peace of debris between the bellvillewachers , i think it was a peace of o-ring so i changed the o-ring in the block and put it back together. checked for leakes and tested and now i see the spread that you saw in youre video 🙂. Thanks for youre answer
Great video Peter!
Thanks Pat 🙂
Thank you for your work.
Nice video again Peter. Do you have an URL to the brass piston?
Drop me a PM 🙂
Thanks for the video👍👍
Hi. What is the factory piston on the fx impact M3 power block, brass or plastic? I have not opened the regulator.
I have a 20 fps difference but shooting at 100 meters 3.1 cm.
The new AMP regulators has the brass piston. The big spread can occour on a new regulator - I just had the same thing happening on my new Panthera.
What you can do is to take out the regulator and lube up the o-rings and springs and perhaps also polish the springs (lightly)
That helped me and thanks to this my spread has gone down to almost nothing🙂
I've been wanting to do it for a long time, but I've been hesitant to do it. Now I have no doubts and will do it. And at the same time I will install hummer weight 8,5 grams from Huma-Air. Also was bought a long time ago, but after your video about hammers decided to install.
I shoot with homemade slugs 30 gr 5,5 mm. Barrel 700 mm.
Im going to bypass the first reg and put in the M4 AMP regulator. To me it seems that the whole reason for the first regulator was a gimmick. All they really needed to do was just make the 2nd regulator with better materials that could hold up to being charged straight from the 250bar pressure. Im tired of messing with 2 regulators.
I’m curious, how old was the one you replaced and about how many shots do you think you had put through it ?
It was 1,5 years old and have shot like 10000 shots 😃
But it has never performed better 😃
Thanks for the nice video. Can you tell which grip you used and did it fit by default with the bag rider? Also, in the first part of the video (0:20) did you have a different first stage regulator?
I believe it is an Ergo Tactical Deluxe grip and it works well with the bag rider. It was mounted on my first Impact that I bought used, so I just kept switching it over to my new guns😃
What you can see it the dual bottle adapter ☝️
I took it off after mounting the power block 🙂
I like the idea of brass over plastic so I am going to swap it over.
I found running my first reg higher than the 20-30 fx recommend more like 40-50 difference between the two reg's made my dev come down.
also polishing the hammer spring as well as the hammer and the other moving parts in the gun will bring the deviation come way down I can get 10 same shots on my dynamic .25 express after polishing those parts, and when they start creeping up do it again.
main thing is accurate.. not how fast the regulator fills but how EXACT it is
same on the hammer valve...
How much variation in FPS you see (at best ZERO) and in what settings your groups are the smallest (shooting hole in hole)
Nice. If you want faster plenum refills you’ll need to delete the first reg.
I was thinking the raising it would do it. With the Mk2 I had bigger spread when the bottle had 250-230 bar. After that it was better.
can you tell us what your washer stack is on your new piston as well as how you lubed them correctly 🙏
They are stacked as original. Believe it is ) () () () () () (
Just lubed the slightly with silicone grease, but Im pretty sure that it was the oring I missed in my first attempt 😃
12 washers in m3? Thought it was 11
When I tried to fit () () () () () ( there was hardly any room to fit brass piece on to piston 🥺can you advise please
@@marktemple9315 sorry I put one too many on there. It was a direct swap from the plastic piston.
Nice video. Thanks. If I may give you a suggestion...l would say to bring your camera/mic a little close...the audio is a little low...😊
Do you have the link to the new piston? I only find the "old"brass piston
Ask them if they have the old or the new piston🙂
It might be the new anyway 🤔
Is there a install video Peter ?
I think that both Ernest Rowe and Airbuks has videos that shows how to do it 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner yes found it thanks Peter
Since I put the brass piston in my M3, it will always creep up exactly 5 bar if it sits for a couple of hours or longer. Even if it sits 2 or 3 weeks, exactly 5 bar. One shot and it drops 5 bar and stays there until it is stored again. That 5 bar doesn't really affect my zero, so I'm not concerned at this point.
Almost the same here and Im not worried either 😃
How the hell do you even see 5 bars on the gauge. Plus these small gauges are not accurate. So your 5 bar means nothing.
I have a digital gauge. So yeah, rethink your comment.@@johnrambo1349
My Mk2 .177 regulator is 120. And I'm getting about 100 shots is that good?
It depends on the ammo and velocity 🤔
@@VikingAirgunner 10 gr knockouts 980
@@danielwayn it seems like a very high reg. Wich barrel length?
@@VikingAirgunner 500
@@danielwayn it has been a while since I shot the 500 mm and I cant really remember my settings, but still 120 bar seem high. Have u seen my tuning video? The method there is to have a max velocity about 20-25 fps above the desired velocity. So in your case 1005-1010 fps. If your max is above this you can turn down the reg and get more shots. If not you are fine 🙂
What pressure difference between Reg1 and Reg2 in this Test ?
Around 50 bar. I dont pay too much attention to the 1. reg settings. Just making sure that it is over 30 bar difference 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner Got 8-10 seconds with HUMA Gen 3 Reg upgrade, setting: 175 first and 143 second - very disapointing ....
@@emmerichweinlich1057 Did you change back to the AMP regulator? My experience tells me that regulators gets better over time or if you polish the springs 🙂
My piston in 16 mm fximpact mk2 very slowly filling why?
It might need to be lubed. You can also gently polish the springs. Those two things usually helps 👍
Can you give me a link to buy it?
Just make a Google search 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner I can't find the link to buy, can you send me the link?
Acurasy test date 70-100 meters boss
Good stuff 👍🏻