I have this same rifle, no problems at all, accurate, I've done no modifications. Only issue is the loading port being a little tight. Can't be a whimp with it. Lever it like a man, & you'll have no problems.
I have the almost same rifle (mine also has a load port in the magazine tube) and a decent recoil pad. So, other than a very sharp side loading port that I filed smooth, I’ve had no issues at all. I have learned a lot from the Rossi Rifleman Forum as well as “Steve’s Gunz” down here in Texas. His video on the M92 is ok but a bit dated now. One thing I do with all of my guns is to find “its favorite cartridge” …. and just in case you have supply issues, you also need know what each guns second choice is…..and yes it can make a big difference. You seem to be using an array of ammunition, that could be part of the issue. One thing I notice, you’re not consistent with how you manipulate the action. Sometimes you give it a good throw, other times you seem to slow down a bit. Do a test with a known (length) group of cartridges and see if that helps any. Also, with each of the different length cartridges, try and keep your lever manipulation as consistent as possible. And, as with any firearm no matter the reputation or cost, always practice transitioning to another gun (or knife). No machine is 100% perfect all the time. Jams, running out of ammo or just a straight up breakdown is exactly what these drills were designed for. Good video, keep em coming. If this one doesn’t work out, see if you can trade for another caliber. They are available in .38/.357, .44 mag and .45 Colt. They did a very limited run (approximately 100) in 480 Ruger but those rarer than hens teeth. Both the 44 and .45 have several ammo choices available that are absolute stompers….as well as “ solids” if that’s what you’re looking for. But my big takeaway is that they all fit my hand like they were made just for me and carry like dream. And because they didn’t cost a months salary, I don’t mind taking any of my them out in the woods to get dirty and rained on. And like you said, these rifles are on the lighter end of the weight spectrum which will translate (for the heavier loads) into being a bit harsh in the recoil department. 🫡
My R92 45 Colt does the same thing. Rossi tried fixing it 5 times and we’re not able to correct it. They sent me a different rifle and the same thing happened. I am returning it for a refund and buying a Henry.
Given that the 45 Colts cycle and the 454 Casull doesnt makes me wonder if it's the projectile shape. I'd try a few and see what works. I've had a Henry that hated some bullet shapes but worked fine w/ others
@coloradosupercars it's certainly possible. The 45 colts were lead flat nose. The lead flat nose 454 (the longest cartridge) did cycle the best of the 454s.
I was wondering that too. I've had that problem in a different caliber/gun combination. It took me forever to figure out why one box of bullets would jam every fourth or fifth round, but everything else worked great. Turns out the problem bullets' ogive was just a bit further toward the nose than everything else I was loading, and they couldn't quite make it around the corner into the chamber.
I own the same gun and love it, but........... Recoil from full power .454 Casull loads are harsh (muzzle blast and recoil). The screws will come loose during firing and cause the action to have hiccups. The lever MUST be full stroked or the elevator will fail to raise the next cartridge and cause a jam. I have 200 rounds through mine and all the issues are gone, the action is butter smooth, and the rifle is very accurate. This is not a rifle for the recoil sensitive shooter.
Correct… I found the full power 300 grain XTP‘s to be pretty stout. I have some buffalo bore hard cast but haven’t shot them yet. Lol. I have found hand loaded hot 45 colt to be plenty for deer. We’re talking in the timber shots of 75 yards at max
Hmmm, I have a Rossi in .357, As I do all my aquisitions, I had my gunsmith give it a look over. When he called for me to come get it, I took it back to the ranch and went for a walk in the woods. While it wasn't as smooth as say a Henry, it cycled fine and I had a lot of fun with it just plinking around. It's never given me any trouble, though it doesn't particularly like wad cutter rounds. That was years ago and haven't had any trouble with it.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Thanks for the info, I would've thought, that given the much higher pressures/forces at work, they would have beefed up the rifle accordingly and avoided the problems described :( Bad management I guess. Anyway, am happy with my 92 as it handles well and eats 38spcl without complaint as well. Thanks.
That sux sorry to hear about the problems. You should not have to force it to feed. I have one i must have got lucky. Mine runs flawless right out of the box. I did have a problem with spin cocking it but it was never designed to be spin cocked so i cant blame them for that i did modify the lifter and got it to spin cock reliably. Hope you get it resolved if you havent already.
@@A.R.American1 no luck getting it to work better. But I have heard a lot of people that had the issue and some that cycle fine. So I think it's pretty hit and miss
@SmoknJaysGarage ya that's a little ways away lol sorry I ain't driving that far. I dont know anyone up that way either to give ya hand hope you get it figured out.
I bought the Orig 454 Rossi many years ago, 45 cycled fine. 454 rd nose ok. At that time Rossi was no longer, no parts, mine just plain fell apart. Feed tube would pop out from the 454 rds, 45 no issue, and several other issues. Back then Poorly made product.
@descendantofphineas7785 i think that traditional carried on unfortunately. Mine seems to cycle 45s pretty good. But if I wanted to shoot 45s, I would have saved myself $350 and bought the 45 colt.
@@SmoknJaysGarage I did but the henry 45 side gate edition. I have the original super redhawk 454 9 1/2, when Ruger first opened them for the public. 10k rds and still going strong. Great revolver. Cheers.
It is my understanding that Rossi is out of the lever gun business and that its "sister" company Heritage, under the Taurus umbrella, is taking over that branch/type of firearm.
@@SmoknJaysGarage From what I've heard and take it with a box of store brand salt, Heritage will be the sole producer of lever guns under the Taurus corporate umbrella. Personally, I do not think Heritage produces anything I would spend my retirement money on as is, so I can't see that branch of Taurus producing a lever gun I would even consider. By the way ALL my hunting rifles are lever guns!
@@SmoknJaysGarageIF and only IF what I have heard is true Heritage, the lowest grade of firearm under the Taurus umbrella, is taking over lever gun production and they will be much cheaper price wise than what Rossi.. Based on what I have seen of Heritage firearms to date, if it's true, I'll be scouring the used rifle racks for a Rossi R92 in either .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum in the very near future. I actually hope I'm wrong about the above but your difficulties with customer service regarding your R92 makes me wonder if what I've heard recently is actually true.
What ammo/projectile(s) are you using? They don't look like massive 360gr hardcasts or some kind of wadcutter to me. Pretty much any jacketed projectile that's within SAAMI overall length (1.78", I think?) SHOULD cycle in a properly built action, but this is Taurus... I know in .44mag people run into these issues when they try running big 325's/340's/355's in lever's, and back in the day pretty much anything over 270-ish grains could be a problem in Winchester's and Marlin's. Idk, that doesn't seem like it's the case here though. I wonder if they accidentally put a .454 barrel on a standard 92 action (or if they're reusing parts that need to be up-sized for the longer length in order to save money) If that were my gun I'd remove the aftermarket parts and send it in until they send one that's worth its salt. I think they cover shipping both ways, or at least they should if they don't, lol. I've heard great thing's about the Rossi's... except the .454. And given the next tier up is a 5 grand Big Horn, a lot of people still buy them. That's why I'm here, hoping for a good review so I can finally pull the trigger on one. Guess I'll keep waiting... Sorry you're having bad luck with it, man.
@mfallen2023 the 454 definitely seems to be their problem child. I reached out to rossi several times regarding possible warranty work. They won't respond to calls or email from either me or my dealer. No, I'm not using huge bullets. 320 gr is the biggest if I recall.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Whoa, really?! That's sketchy as hell, doubly so that they're ignoring a dealer they presumably had a business relationship with! That's another reason I should probably avoid this company. And yeah, a 320 is pretty moderate (at least for what I shoot out of my Super Redhawk) so it's not like you're pushing deep into heavy for caliber range... I know a few people that are really well-versed with levers. I'll send them a link to your vid & maybe one of them can at least point you in the right direction. Sucks as that barrel seems like a shooter! Well, best of luck... If I happen to stumble on any info that may be of help I'll shoot you a comment, but I'm sure you've already scoured for info...
Thanks for the follow-up review. I have the same stainless 92. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Will probably do the spring kit and smoothing mods first. Read all the stories about it before buying. Paid about $250 less than you did. So you have a firearm that appears to be particular about ammo loading but loads, ejects and groups other ammo well. Yet the rifle is labeled a piece of crap?
May as well buy a higher end rifle instead of having to completely redo a Rossi 😊. I have bought two Henrys during my life . Still have them and never had any issues since day one .
Don’t disregard this rifle. I’m sure there are plenty that give issues, but mine was top-notch right out of the box. I have done nothing besides change to a peep site and it has taken a bull moose at 65 yards and a couple deer, through and through with the Burns XPB all copper load. Deader than dead. But good point that you need to prove your gear before going into a situation where you may need multiple quick shots.
Hey Jay. I have the R92 in 45 colt and have the same issues you are having. Just published a video today on the issue and gave you a mention in the video. Very dissaoopinted in the R92. th-cam.com/video/GUWVfRHkucQ/w-d-xo.html
@jackofalltrades7822 i just watched your video. Thanks for the shout out. I knew it couldn't be just me. I do hear some positive reviews of rossi. But also a lot of negative. I think their quality is very hit and miss. I think Henry will do you right. I have a lot of their lever guns and they're all great. Unfortunately they don't currently make a 454 Casull.
Rossi guns arent terrible but theyre not perfect. But again, not even Korth revolvers are perfect. And those are 6 to 10k revolvers. Other guns can be ammo sensitive as well, it depends upon the brand and its really not that big of a deal. Just find what works and stick with it. Does it suck? Yes very much so. Is it the end of the world? Hah! Not even remotely. Theyre good guns for what they are and theyre the ONLY affordable 454 casull lever action besides these citadel ones.
I have this same rifle, no problems at all, accurate, I've done no modifications. Only issue is the loading port being a little tight. Can't be a whimp with it. Lever it like a man, & you'll have no problems.
@kl2297 good for you. Mine horrible.
Nah, u baby it while cycling. It's obvious. You do you too 😉 @@SmoknJaysGarage
I am having the same issues with my R92 45lc.
I subbed you. Thanks for the vid.
I have the almost same rifle (mine also has a load port in the magazine tube) and a decent recoil pad. So, other than a very sharp side loading port that I filed smooth, I’ve had no issues at all. I have learned a lot from the Rossi Rifleman Forum as well as “Steve’s Gunz” down here in Texas. His video on the M92 is ok but a bit dated now. One thing I do with all of my guns is to find “its favorite cartridge” …. and just in case you have supply issues, you also need know what each guns second choice is…..and yes it can make a big difference. You seem to be using an array of ammunition, that could be part of the issue. One thing I notice, you’re not consistent with how you manipulate the action. Sometimes you give it a good throw, other times you seem to slow down a bit. Do a test with a known (length) group of cartridges and see if that helps any. Also, with each of the different length cartridges, try and keep your lever manipulation as consistent as possible. And, as with any firearm no matter the reputation or cost, always practice transitioning to another gun (or knife). No machine is 100% perfect all the time. Jams, running out of ammo or just a straight up breakdown is exactly what these drills were designed for. Good video, keep em coming. If this one doesn’t work out, see if you can trade for another caliber. They are available in .38/.357, .44 mag and .45 Colt. They did a very limited run (approximately 100) in 480 Ruger but those rarer than hens teeth. Both the 44 and .45 have several ammo choices available that are absolute stompers….as well as “ solids” if that’s what you’re looking for. But my big takeaway is that they all fit my hand like they were made just for me and carry like dream. And because they didn’t cost a months salary, I don’t mind taking any of my them out in the woods to get dirty and rained on. And like you said, these rifles are on the lighter end of the weight spectrum which will translate (for the heavier loads) into being a bit harsh in the recoil department. 🫡
My R92 45 Colt does the same thing. Rossi tried fixing it 5 times and we’re not able to correct it. They sent me a different rifle and the same thing happened. I am returning it for a refund and buying a Henry.
Given that the 45 Colts cycle and the 454 Casull doesnt makes me wonder if it's the projectile shape. I'd try a few and see what works. I've had a Henry that hated some bullet shapes but worked fine w/ others
@coloradosupercars it's certainly possible. The 45 colts were lead flat nose. The lead flat nose 454 (the longest cartridge) did cycle the best of the 454s.
I was wondering that too. I've had that problem in a different caliber/gun combination. It took me forever to figure out why one box of bullets would jam every fourth or fifth round, but everything else worked great. Turns out the problem bullets' ogive was just a bit further toward the nose than everything else I was loading, and they couldn't quite make it around the corner into the chamber.
I was considering this gun until I saw this. THANK YOU
I have this rifle in 357 mag. No problems yet with mine. Very accurate
I own the same gun and love it, but........... Recoil from full power .454 Casull loads are harsh (muzzle blast and recoil). The screws will come loose during firing and cause the action to have hiccups. The lever MUST be full stroked or the elevator will fail to raise the next cartridge and cause a jam. I have 200 rounds through mine and all the issues are gone, the action is butter smooth, and the rifle is very accurate. This is not a rifle for the recoil sensitive shooter.
Correct… I found the full power 300 grain XTP‘s to be pretty stout. I have some buffalo bore hard cast but haven’t shot them yet. Lol.
I have found hand loaded hot 45 colt to be plenty for deer. We’re talking in the timber shots of 75 yards at max
Hmmm, I have a Rossi in .357, As I do all my aquisitions, I had my gunsmith give it a look over. When he called for me to come get it, I took it back to the ranch and went for a walk in the woods. While it wasn't as smooth as say a Henry, it cycled fine and I had a lot of fun with it just plinking around. It's never given me any trouble, though it doesn't particularly like wad cutter rounds. That was years ago and haven't had any trouble with it.
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 357 and 454 are not the same. Bad 454s seem to be a pretty consistent thing with rossi.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Thanks for the info, I would've thought, that given the much higher pressures/forces at work, they would have beefed up the rifle accordingly and avoided the problems described :( Bad management I guess. Anyway, am happy with my 92 as it handles well and eats 38spcl without complaint as well. Thanks.
That sux sorry to hear about the problems. You should not have to force it to feed. I have one i must have got lucky. Mine runs flawless right out of the box. I did have a problem with spin cocking it but it was never designed to be spin cocked so i cant blame them for that i did modify the lifter and got it to spin cock reliably. Hope you get it resolved if you havent already.
@@A.R.American1 no luck getting it to work better. But I have heard a lot of people that had the issue and some that cycle fine. So I think it's pretty hit and miss
@SmoknJaysGarage I am thinking you are right. If you are close to south east michigan let me know maybe I can help you fix it.
@A.R.American1 I'm in NE Wisconsin.
But thanks.
@SmoknJaysGarage ya that's a little ways away lol sorry I ain't driving that far. I dont know anyone up that way either to give ya hand hope you get it figured out.
I bought the Orig 454 Rossi many years ago, 45 cycled fine. 454 rd nose ok.
At that time Rossi was no longer, no parts, mine just plain fell apart.
Feed tube would pop out from the 454 rds, 45 no issue, and several other issues.
Back then Poorly made product.
@descendantofphineas7785 i think that traditional carried on unfortunately. Mine seems to cycle 45s pretty good. But if I wanted to shoot 45s, I would have saved myself $350 and bought the 45 colt.
@@SmoknJaysGarage I did but the henry 45 side gate edition.
I have the original super redhawk 454 9 1/2, when Ruger first opened them for the public. 10k rds and still going strong. Great revolver. Cheers.
@descendantofphineas7785 that is awesome!! I have a super redhawk in 454.
And a Henry model X in 45 colt.
It is my understanding that Rossi is out of the lever gun business and that its "sister" company Heritage, under the Taurus umbrella, is taking over that branch/type of firearm.
@furmanmackey5479 I haven't heard that, but it's possible. Heritage is still making their own guns though, are they taking over both brands?
@@SmoknJaysGarage From what I've heard and take it with a box of store brand salt, Heritage will be the sole producer of lever guns under the Taurus corporate umbrella. Personally, I do not think Heritage produces anything I would spend my retirement money on as is, so I can't see that branch of Taurus producing a lever gun I would even consider. By the way ALL my hunting rifles are lever guns!
@@SmoknJaysGarageIF and only IF what I have heard is true Heritage, the lowest grade of firearm under the Taurus umbrella, is taking over lever gun production and they will be much cheaper price wise than what Rossi.. Based on what I have seen of Heritage firearms to date, if it's true, I'll be scouring the used rifle racks for a Rossi R92 in either .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum in the very near future. I actually hope I'm wrong about the above but your difficulties with customer service regarding your R92 makes me wonder if what I've heard recently is actually true.
@@furmanmackey5479 it's definitely something worth keeping an eye on.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Rossi owns Heritage now. They purchased Heritage earlier this year.
Rossi 92 in 357 mag does same to 38 special in older lever action guns.having cycling issues fur ammo.
@@redfoot69 that's good to know. Most people were claiming their 357s were great.
I have the 454 as well and i even sent it back for warranty work, still useless. i think ill buy the spring kit and hope for the best.
@@FRISKYxDINGOxx it's a shame. If you want a lever action 454, there aren't many options.
I bought a new one last year, had a bent barrel. They replaced the rifle, haven't shot it yet.
@ag6907 damn! At least they replaced it. Hopefully yours will cycle better than mine.
What ammo/projectile(s) are you using? They don't look like massive 360gr hardcasts or some kind of wadcutter to me. Pretty much any jacketed projectile that's within SAAMI overall length (1.78", I think?) SHOULD cycle in a properly built action, but this is Taurus...
I know in .44mag people run into these issues when they try running big 325's/340's/355's in lever's, and back in the day pretty much anything over 270-ish grains could be a problem in Winchester's and Marlin's. Idk, that doesn't seem like it's the case here though. I wonder if they accidentally put a .454 barrel on a standard 92 action (or if they're reusing parts that need to be up-sized for the longer length in order to save money)
If that were my gun I'd remove the aftermarket parts and send it in until they send one that's worth its salt. I think they cover shipping both ways, or at least they should if they don't, lol. I've heard great thing's about the Rossi's... except the .454. And given the next tier up is a 5 grand Big Horn, a lot of people still buy them. That's why I'm here, hoping for a good review so I can finally pull the trigger on one. Guess I'll keep waiting... Sorry you're having bad luck with it, man.
@mfallen2023 the 454 definitely seems to be their problem child. I reached out to rossi several times regarding possible warranty work. They won't respond to calls or email from either me or my dealer.
No, I'm not using huge bullets. 320 gr is the biggest if I recall.
@@SmoknJaysGarage Whoa, really?! That's sketchy as hell, doubly so that they're ignoring a dealer they presumably had a business relationship with! That's another reason I should probably avoid this company.
And yeah, a 320 is pretty moderate (at least for what I shoot out of my Super Redhawk) so it's not like you're pushing deep into heavy for caliber range...
I know a few people that are really well-versed with levers. I'll send them a link to your vid & maybe one of them can at least point you in the right direction.
Sucks as that barrel seems like a shooter! Well, best of luck... If I happen to stumble on any info that may be of help I'll shoot you a comment, but I'm sure you've already scoured for info...
Thanks for the follow-up review. I have the same stainless 92. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Will probably do the spring kit and smoothing mods first. Read all the stories about it before buying. Paid about $250 less than you did.
So you have a firearm that appears to be particular about ammo loading but loads, ejects and groups other ammo well. Yet the rifle is labeled a piece of crap?
Your original .454 loads were 325-grain bullets.
@@TODinWY thanks
That bad lad needs to go back to the factory. Thanks for the video.
@TheHappy2cu you're right it does. Unfortunately rossi is pretty bad with their customer service and they won't address it.
@@SmoknJaysGarage I am with you. No Rossi products in my future.
All lever actions do that if the round is to long. 300 grain rounds are longer.
@brucepierce4971 The 300 gr jammed the least. The shorter ones jammed more.
Hhmmm sure you heard this already, but send it to me. I have a 6 1/2" BFR in this cartridge. I think I could work out the bugs.
Mountain man
May as well buy a higher end rifle instead of having to completely redo a Rossi 😊. I have bought two Henrys during my life . Still have them and never had any issues since day one .
@daviddomingo7768 I have 13 (I think) Henry rifles. They all shoot great. Unfortunately Henry doesn't currently offer a 454 Casull.
I like my 454 r92 you sound a little soft fellow!
@@darrenjones9020 we can't all be as hard as you...🤷
I was really wanting this rifle....not so much now. Thanks for sharing. God Bless America 🇺🇸
Don’t disregard this rifle. I’m sure there are plenty that give issues, but mine was top-notch right out of the box. I have done nothing besides change to a peep site and it has taken a bull moose at 65 yards and a couple deer, through and through with the Burns XPB all copper load. Deader than dead. But good point that you need to prove your gear before going into a situation where you may need multiple quick shots.
Do not base a purchase on this guys videos
Mine loads 454 good , 45 colt not so good.
I would not want to carry that rifle in bear country.
Bear load first.
You can't lemp wrist it fellow! Of course it not going cycle correct!
Hey Jay. I have the R92 in 45 colt and have the same issues you are having. Just published a video today on the issue and gave you a mention in the video. Very dissaoopinted in the R92. th-cam.com/video/GUWVfRHkucQ/w-d-xo.html
@jackofalltrades7822 i just watched your video. Thanks for the shout out.
I knew it couldn't be just me. I do hear some positive reviews of rossi. But also a lot of negative. I think their quality is very hit and miss. I think Henry will do you right. I have a lot of their lever guns and they're all great. Unfortunately they don't currently make a 454 Casull.
Rossi guns arent terrible but theyre not perfect. But again, not even Korth revolvers are perfect. And those are 6 to 10k revolvers. Other guns can be ammo sensitive as well, it depends upon the brand and its really not that big of a deal. Just find what works and stick with it. Does it suck? Yes very much so. Is it the end of the world? Hah! Not even remotely. Theyre good guns for what they are and theyre the ONLY affordable 454 casull lever action besides these citadel ones.
You are far from being an expert!
@peterallen3105 at no point am I claiming to be an expert.