I asked $120 and $1000 artists on Fiverr to make the same Warhammer
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This week we went on Fiverr and asked 3 different artists to design the exact same miniature. We got a quite insane result, not exactly warhammer but miniatures non the less :)
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Martpalacio: fvrr.co/3T87Cjg
Orkid32: fvrr.co/3Tsz8Yq
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That first artist deserved a 10/10 for the price that sculpt was beautiful
The rat looked abysmal tho
@@bradiq306 It's what it looked like in the sketch though. Definitely 10/10 price for quality for me.
Agree, for 120 that was amazing.
Hope he gets a lot of requests.
And 10/10 for destroying the work market for the artists who wanna live from their craft and remain independent, good luck surviving for 120$ per week.
@@randomnickify unfortunately that is how supply and demand works. Whenever I sell something, it’s in addition to my day job, so I’m not looking to make a whole lot of money, I’m looking to get enough for what it is. so I make sure it’s priced appropriately but also make sure it’s the cheapest listing so it gets the sale over those who choose to charge more. You can be mad at people who do a good job for less money but in the end who do you really have to blame?
Hi Squidmar,
Thanks for having me on the show. It was a tight deadline, but i think it came out alright! Also a lot of respect to the fivirr sculptors for a job well done. Lastly, thanks for the feedback, there is always room for improvement and i certainly still have plenty to learn. Kind regards Thorbjorn :).
Loved having you and thanks for the amazing sculpt 🥳🥳🥳
You're my favourite overwatch character
That's incredible dude. I love when Squid does videos like this.
U Are Amazing Truly
@@Daedricsoulslayer Right? Such fun, and it's great to see the quality others do when they don't know who it is hiring them. Makes it a good representation for what we might get as well. It's also generally fun because of how they're presented.
The second to last guy did a hell of a job for 450. Definitely use him again and give him more time.
I’d even say I liked some parts of his sculpt best out of all of them 😮 The tension of the posing of the legs and feet, something about the face. Very cool to see the different interpretations.
I have a funny feeling that first guy's commissions are going to be pretttttty darn full for a while. Should up his price but I'm seriously considering getting him to sculpt something for me. As someone who is just looking to get a custom piece for their Warhammer army, feels like a no brainer
For sure. To me it feels like their approach is a charge-less-and-get-more-work approach. All the best to them.
Damn, that first guy really undersold himself
I hope Squarespace gave you a bunch of money for their ad because it's literally the first time in 1000 videos I actually don't skip the ad part. Great job!
Had to put Lucas to work somehow.
good point. really love the ads in squidmars videos.
hes the only video whos ads i watch they have a unique sense of humor that i enjoy entirely almost like they know its an ad but are still creative people *MINDBLOW*
@@jarezlem They are great to me thay have a Monty Python feel about them. Love it.
Squidmar ads are always so funny, i never skip them too😊
I respect Thorbjørn, but the first model was ABSOLUTELY the best for the price. They swooned over the third too much honestly. The second was honestly what I expected for the first two.
450$ has the best head. It's the closest one to the concept art. And like you said, it gives Saruman vibes.
As a freelance sculptor, id say if you want some features extenuated, added or removed its best to send those details with the prompt, especially with a small timeframe. Great video overall!
Hi I'm interested in this type of job, as a freelancer do you have a good income? What's your platforms or where do you seek the jobs if I may ask.
Holy SHIT that concept artist is FUCKING pro. Haha. WOW. He totally allowed that concept into his own brain. That is so "giving." Damn. Cool!
@squidmar I fear there is a copycat spammer on your channel?
@@hannesledegen5680 What...?
I love the idea and concept of just paying a bunch of different artists to make a model from the exact same sketch, and see what they come up with.... People are so damn talented
I think given the 120 vs 1000 price tag the first was EASILY the best... I am not suprised you didnt do a side by side of 1-3-4 cause it would show this even more.
As an asset lead in the VFX industry I congratulate the artists on the work they did for the price they charged. I also believe they undersold themselves and should value their skill more (the second artist was closest to cost for value). From what I saw just in this video there was no huge skillgap like Squidmar and Thorbjorn proclaimed when the fine details weren't there. You simply got what you paid for. It's great and all to sell a 500+ sculpt for 120 dollars, but unless you live in a very cheap country then it wont be sustainable and you hurt the working rates of artists around you. The $450 sculpt was the best in my opinion and you could tell Thorbjorn was a little taken back compared to his more then double priced second fiddle. Fun vid overall
Welp, that just found me a great sculptor I can afford. Though he might be overwhelmed by now...
Maybe if you're fast
I was! He's already working on my sculpt and it's going to be glorious!
@@tenchuu007 awesome man, congrats
Very nice to see the dialogue between the sculptor and the commissioner. I really enjoyed all of the other sculpts shown as well; I'm astonished by what the artists were offering for the money they wanted! They all did great work that I personally would really enjoy painting up.
Right? Also, I have to nerd out and say that it's great to see proper grammar in a YT comment. It seems very few can use a semi-colon appropriately. I geeked out a little when I saw it used properly here, haha.
Damn I assumed sculpts were MUCH more expensive to make. That first guy was crazy for the price point and probably will be 400 after this video haha
120$ per week of work - try to live having this as your only income :) Guys like that are destroying the market.
@@randomnickify I assume that this is a second job for the lower priced ones. They certainly set clients' expectations too low for people to be able to make a proper living. I gave up doing artwork for people because the money wasn't worth the aggregation (plus, I was actually very good 🙄😆)
@@randomnickify dude you’ve been whining about him taking your business on every comment. He’s good and lives somewhere where $120 apparently gets you further in life. Let the man enjoy his time in the sunlight.
@@randomnickify what if he is just starting out and needs to get some traction going before he can up his prices , I mean if i just start on there and charge 2k on the first one are you going to pay for it ? if so let me know and i will start a page if not keep quiet
@@randomnickify Oh no, these cheaper guys are taking my job... No brother, they're working from a country where they can do this for that price, let's take Ukraine for example where the minimum wage is under 200 euros a month. If you're afraid of them taking away from you, ask them to raise their prices because they're undervaluing their work. Wait until AI comes to 3D sculpting to see a s***show.
You are the only youtuber that I don’t fast forward though during the adds, you guys do such a great job.
@Squidmar Miniatures
@Thorbjørn Barone
Hi guys, I wanted to thank you both for considering my work and commenting on it.
Had I known it would end up in one of your videos, I really would have tried harder!
Thank you again and hugs to you! Until next time I hope!
Shouldn't you try every time?
@@nathanwatt5545 Ohhh burnnnn. That's true. If someone trust you to buy your service, you should give your best no matter who that person is.
I actually prefer the torso morphology on the 450$ one. Especially the deltoid-pec connection, when you raise your arm the pec should flatten and follow the arm. Here the left pec stays the same as the right one despite the position of the arm being completly different.
The problem is also in the artwork tho, so eh.
Great work anyway
Bought my first mini on Etsy yesterday because of you! Thanks for the great content!
The sculpts really look freaking amazing! And the ad was so fun to watch! All the different names with all the puns were just absolutely hilarious 😂
Still my favorite series on your channel! Have watched the previous video's multiple times.
Enjoyed this format , although an expensive concept I really would enjoy you exploring it again. Thanks!
That first guy deserves more kudos.
These are all great. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
This are some nice models rigth there. I have never spend to much thought in how minis are sculpted, but this was very interesting for a first insight.
Love your videos man, I always look forward to every upload.
I appreciate that man!
this might be my favorite concept. It's close between this and the bio mechanical elf.
It's interesting that every result has its own successes and pros and cons.
The sponsorship spot is a great giggle.
I like that Squidmar and Thorbjorn are so fair with their criticism of the fivver artists.
Thorbjorn's sculpted saggy-old man flesh is nicely observed.
Quite a different video from usual, but really nice to see this type as well. Apart from the painting etc., its very nice to see the sculpting and the difference that makes something good or not. And as always, amazing ads.
Be careful man if you click on the account you can see it’s fake and has 2 subs👍
I would love to see you working on stuff for competitions! That would be sooooooo cool 😄
Best Ad I've ever seen, thanks Squid 🐙 followed you for a bit but just subscribed 👍🏻
I have a question because i really have no idea how these processes work… the last artist. He said he’d charge 1000 euros for that sculpt. But then there was a discussion about some changes you might need to have made, and then a further step about prepping it to be print ready. Would a good client understand this to be part of that 1000 euros or would those things be an additional charge, and if so how much extra? And about changes…. If a client says, “please change x, y, and z”… at what point does the artist think “yeah that’s par for the course” and at what point does the artist think “this is not okay”?
I've never been a freelance sculptor, but I've dealt with a few professionally. It's pretty common to want revisions, so this should be a conversation that the sculptor and client have before starting work. The price could include one or two rounds of revisions, or revisions could be at an additional cost, negotiated when they are requested. If the agreement was to provide a print-ready sculpt for 1000 euros, then I'd expect prepping for print be free. If not, then it may cost extra.
Heya. Im an artist.
Basically, you should discuss this with the artist beforehand. Most artists dont charge anything for slight changes. However if the changes are big or there is too many of them, some artists charge an additional price. (Keep in mind this is if you failed to mention exactly what you wanted in the first place. If you mentioned a detail and the artist forgot to put it in, thats on them. But if you change your mind after seeing the result, thats when charges take place)
There is also a time limit on this. So you cant go back after like a year of ordering to ask for changes.
The beard and hand on the 450 one were sick!
Definitely a 10/10 for the ad segment, awesome
To be honest, the 120 dollar one and 450 one were my favorite the 1000 dollar was good, but it was missing something that the 450 had
The supports of the base going into the hand to hold it up on the 450$ one were such a creatively brilliant idea
I love these different level videos.
Earliest I've ever been, you're the reason I started collecting Warhammer! I stopped but I need to start again
wohoo, come back to the hobby ^^^
@@SquidmarMiniatures I definitely will now!!!
These are the only ads that actually feel like bonus content 😂
I honestly feel 3rd one is definitely the better, 4th one still feels like pre-final and not final!!
I agree, the third one was in many ways better than the 4th, or at the very least on par with it, but for less than half the price!
Bro this Squarespace skit was freaking HEAT 🔥🔥🔥
torb asks soo much for a sculpt. then you see it and it all makes sense. what talent and dedication to his craft
Hahahahaha your sponsor clips are always the best of whole TH-cam
That Squarespace add was awesome
y'all really commit to the ad breaks. Respect.
for when the conversion you made of Nagash on the altar of Kroak? I want to see it painted
that first guy nailed it for 120 bucks! wow. leave him a big tip
I'd have done it just for the feedback! Really cool design, would have liked to see a bit more of the creation process if possible
im here for SquidAdd and i was not disapointed ! :D love it
I like very much that you boost other creators publicity, therefore creating something yourself, and helping others.
Tbh the first guy was underselling his work a lot, should have given him 10/10 for that price you can't get even close to that, a normal 120$ sculpt is the second one
let me say to you that the ad videos are so funny... I usually skip them, but yours are too funny
I dunno why, but now I wanna see squidmar print all four of those models up and paint em just to show another comparison in the details.
Lmao Love the square space add, I don't know if I like it or potter one better thanks for a morning laugh, gets my day started
Wow Thorbjörn crushed it! Great vid💥💥💥
Beautiful job.. blows my mind the capability of some
Anyone else find the editing of Squidmar's vids exhausting. There's only so many youtuber zooms, soundbites, cutaways, gifs, memes you can take.
I'm genuinely interested in the premise, but the video is an assault to the senses.
Honestly I love your shirts. Especially floral t-shirt & colorful forest/mountain t-shirt. Where can a guy find them?
Best Square Space add ever. Lol it made me laugh so hard. 🎉 loved it
that squarespace ad was amazing
Only ad placement I’ve watched the entirety of
That’s so cool you are doin this. Meanwhile I’m still over here trying to scrape up enough money just to get a couple squads for my blood angels army. Damn
That's one of the best parts of mini painting! Try to enjoy the simplicity of saving and slowly building your army :)
It makes each piece feel so much more personal than if you just bulk buy a 2000 point army of grey plastic, in my humble opinion.
@@12XxXHandlesAreStupidXxX123 I agree to some
Extent but having seven kids Christmas and tons of birthdays it can take ages.
Probably be 3 years before I get enough to play a game
What a hype about your kickstarter!!!!
You guys really went all out on that ad wow! Made me laugh so hard!
First one was really good although I preferred the throne from the third one because the fungernails on the first had an odd lip on the underside, while the muscles on the thirds body didn't really match the age of the person
The one before the last one is much better. It has more personality and is closer to the reference.
I would love to see a video like this for a 28 mm wargame squad or something.
Well, I really find this a bit disappointing, I am the sculptor of the 2nd model, in my defense I was only 3 months old as far as digital sculpture is concerned, (that's why the low price).
Likewise, I also communicated many times and sent images and work processes for you to correct me and receive decent feedback, which I never received. The only feedback I received was "Thank you man! I'm happy with the end result if you are :)"
I am aware that at that time maybe my level was not on such a scale, but I tried. Despite being willing to apply changes and modify the order, I never received any kind of feedback.
In part I understand it because you must be a very busy person with all your projects, but I don't think that way of "smearing" is correct.
Anyway, I really appreciate the opportunity and the delayed feedback I just received. Thanks to this work I decided to practice daily and I plan to continue.
I hope your work continues to advance and don't throw artists who are just starting out so far down. (or at least give them good feedback so they can grow as artists)
You’re doing great brother. I agree, and it is a bit shitty of Squid to leave that out of the video
I feel you bro, I’ve been practicing for 2~ish years now and watching this video is super discouraging, like people like them make me feel I shouldn’t really continue… I know your comment isn’t about negativity but rather the frustration from the lack of feedback only to be “exposed” super publicly just for views.
As a software developer myself I know how frustrating it is that a client tells you that everything is fine only to get told when you deliver the end product that it isn’t what they expected, which is why we have regular contact, schedule meetings and review with them closely to check on the progress, if the client isn’t willing to put in some effort to communicate with us why even bother working on their project. If they are super busy to even give a good and objective reply why even commission work in the first place…
Is this quality with the 3 months old experience?? Dude don't let this video discourage you. 4 days is a really short period of time for 3d sculpting and I think you did a excellent job.
You are doing great, keep pushing forward!
Kinda sucks that he didn't respond, but I don't think he smeared you in any way, it was just pure honesty. You absolutely do need improvement and you shouldn't take that criticism as unjust or unfair, you should take it as truth and continue your craft and expand your knowledge and skill level. Every artist was once at your level, they got better because they didn't give up, they loved improvement, and they took criticism and harnessed it well.
Next time instead of putting the blame on the client because you feel bad and hurt (that's not to insult you, that is just how our egos work and we all have to deal with it alongside you, even if we don't think it's ego, it is.) Consider yourself to be "responsible" and push for your own improvement, even if you think your critics were unfair and rude. The only way to get to a point where you can reasonably judge a critic, is to be worthy of opposing judgment, and that must be earned through skill and improvement.
Again I hope you understand I am not trying to upset you with this, it simply it truth and all of us must be willing to take hurtful truths and apply them well. Our egos blind that, they make us think "Who is he to judge me! He didn't even tell me this and this and also this! It is his fault and not mine!" even when this IS the case like you stated here with your comment, would you have been able to beat the other $120 dollar guy with constructive feedback? Or would you have still fallen short?
The first guy showed humility through not needing feedback. If you didn't get feedback, neither did he, and yet you were outperformed. Why? Guy 1 simply has more skill, and is humble enough to undercharge his product for seemingly no reason other than he doesn't believe it is worth more (just an assumption could be totally wrong). Even if he did complain, he at least had earned thr right to do so through his obvious skill. You're not there yet, and that is absolutely okay, just be willing to humble yourself and realize that before you place blame onto your external surroundings, place blame on yourself. This applies to every person in every skill, to become the best, you must be responsible for not being the best. Otherwise no matter what happens "external problems" are going to be your demise and will hold you back from improvement.
Don't be discouraged, be encouraged to be Guy number 1, and then the $450 dollar guy, and through that encouragement you will become $1000 dollar guy.
The add was just on next lvl this time xD
i just came here to see the square space ad, dont mind me. Perfection
Bro I actually watch these sponsor segments. They’re great
$120 wants to fight the mouse, original picture enjoys the mouse's company
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Someone should make a video compilation of Emil and Harry Potter quotes without context.
Hahahahah That add was the best of the entire video xD
Awesome. Can't wait!
A+ for the square space ad 😂
That haircut makes me think Emil is working to recover the five elements for the Great Evil...
this square space ad is more high quality that can rival internet historians nord vpn ads
i have the same sweater
at you . that pink one with miki mouse
Damn what's all these mini sculpting clips doing in my squarespace add, 12/10
Damn marvelous everything!!! 😍
wow, great breakdown.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Your squarespace commercial was even more entertaining than the show rings of power 🤣🤣🤣
Will you make tutorials for these miniatures Emil?
$1,000 for four days work from a high level creative is still not a lot. I used to freelance design retail furniture and my rate would have been perhaps 40% higher.
Yup, but I’m a mini sculptor too and this is about as much as your ever gonna make 🙃
@@boozebeard9501 Fair point, it is the market forces that determine the rate one can achieve as much as the skill level of the practitioner. I suppose a bigger challenge that the rate is how busy one is - one of these jobs a week is a comfortable income, one every two or three weeks is not!
Ohhhh man, that would of been fun to sculpt.
I'm super impressed with those fiver sculptures, for what they got for the price. 120 euros is nothing for the time you need to make those to that quality. Even the least good. Non where bad. Was still top notch.
Amazing video and a really fun watch. Also, I'm a web developer. I LOVE that advertisement so much, even if I do hate WYSIWYG tools and site builders. Hats off, they're surely really happy with that ad.
the square space skit had me laughing so hard
That's a great design. As a sculptor, it's nice to see the sculpting part of the hobby showcased a little. Those guys definitely should have charged more!
V good, some longer videos would be good too
I still don't think anyone nailed the stomach area. The drawing had a lot more natural looking movement and 'squish'. Because of how he's sitting, his torso shouldn't be dead straight.
feel like second to last did best and stayed more true to the sketch. especially the face and how he looks at the rat with a lot of personality. while the last one had more details like those crazy ripped side abs but he seemed to look past the rat rather than at it.
Torbjorn. 10/10 great reference
The timing Is perfect, I'm just Walking from home
wohoo, i'll keep you company
The 2nd dude is the only one who priced his work accurately... everyone else undersold themselves.
The foot enjoyer 💀 You showed off those €1000 grippers for free 😩