Great video! What about fry? 🤔 My vocal coach told me it can be used to “relax” vocal chords, but I’m noticing that singers have different ideas about this
Ya, fry can be good for your voice. I actually address this in one of my other videos, BUT when people are trying to rest their voice, some tend to 'live' in fry too much, and then it starts working against you because you're not giving your chords enough variety. monotone, or singular position speaking actually does more bad than good for a voice particularly seeking rest and restoration. Try fry through the straw as part of the exercises I share in this video! (I should have put that in :) )
The range-filled dynamic speaking is a great idea. My mentor was telling me about how damaging monotone speech is. It’s good to know that I’m encouraged to use my voice agilely and fluidly rather than in limitation.
So the reason that you're supposed to keep moving injured things like your ankle in order to help them heal is because muscles are their own heart essentially and if you don't pump the muscle then it doesn't get new blood flow so you're asking your muscles to heal without new blood flow which is basically atrophy
Last week i hurt my voice while yelling impulsively. Felt immediate pain on the vocal chords. Took like 5 days to recover. After 2 day i tried to train lightly and warm it up properly, but felt that 1/3 of performance was missing. Thank god it feels better now, and i learned my lesson.
For me, vocal is rest is just talking normally, whilst avoiding strain and heavy use of my voice, and then slowly adding those things back in as I start feeling better. For me vocal rest is basically not singing or yelling for a few days, then slowly using my voice more and more until I feel confident going full-force. But not before doing some introspection as to why injury or stress occurred in the first place, and how to prevent it from happening again. Also, agreed water is king when resting as well as when singing. But green tea with honey is clinically proven to help symptoms of vocal stress/injury as well as many illnesses affecting the throat like laryngitis. Studies actually show that honey has potent antibiotic effects, and can actually be prescribed medically for mild illness like bacterial laryngitis. So green tea is super helpful, but in moderation of course.
I hurt my voice earlier in the year and wish I had seen this video at the time. I got very afraid of using my voice and potentially causing more damage, and so I would tense up in weird ways every time I would speak or prepare to speak, which obviously only caused more problems (and affected my breathing greatly too). It's important to remember that the vocal cords are made to create sound. While reducing vocal use can be very helpful, I think continuing to practice some amount of natural, dynamic, range-filled speaking like you talk about is essential from both a physical and psychological perspective.
Hey Luke, you might never see this but I hurt my voice and went on rest for months, and now recently I'm back on it from singing. I stopped talking for maybe awhole month and now my voice feels weak and quiet. How did you overcome your vocal issues and learn to speak normally?
@@CrisAye Hi Cris. I just gradually started using it more and more and it got stronger over time. You may just need to be very gentle with how you progress in creating sound. I know there are people who've gone several years without speaking as part of a spiritual practice, so I imagine you can definitely get to full strength again if you are careful and consistent. I forget what's in this video, but humming and basic vocal exercises at your comfort level would probably be useful. I wish you well with this. It might also be useful to seek professional help from a vocal coach or someone knowledgeable about this.
I really adore your videos, the knowledge you share is phenomenal! It would be really helpful if you could add chapters to your videos with key notes/titles for the different exercises so it will be easier to follow and practice. x
To add about what you said about the tea. I live in a country where a lot of natural herds and leaves can be used to make tea e.g lime bush. These products are actually more health than artificial tea products.
This is so helpful Chris. Currently I'm going through a period where if I sing or talk too much, my vocal chords feel like they are getting a little burnt. So I look forward to content on TH-cam and this was awesome ❤️
I didn`t know that there is something like resting your voice until I watched an Oprah interview with Whitney and Mariah for the song, "When you believe." Interesting video
I used to sing Volbeat songs everyday thinking that was doing my voice justice not knowing it was doing the opposite. After learning the Zen of Screaming, and learning from others to not constantly sing everyday helped my vocals to literally build up and become more powerful and I started to hit ranges I have never been able to hit before
I'm obsessed with your channel!!! I love it! Gives me a good outlook in my future as a more AGGRESSIVE singer, without me completely losing my voice in the next few years 😂
Chris I'm subscribed and watch and love your videos. I am a professional singer and have been for 20 plus years. I perform on average 5 to 7 shows a week for all those years. Recently I moved to another state and allergies have done a number on me. Needless to say I damaged my voice for the first time (honestly) and had to visit an ENT for therapy and treatment. In a nut shell she recommended the opposite of the advice given in this video. What she recommended: absolutely no speaking for first day. Day 2, 5 minutes speaking am - pm. Day 3, 10 minute speaking am-pm. Day 4, 15 minutes am-pm...and so on. Absolutely no phone calls for 4 weeks. Week 5 low register humming. 10 seconds bursts. This therapy can last months. My point, I think this is a topic that should be handled by a medical professional. Not trying to be a dick. I enjoy your content.
Thanks so much for posting this. I hear you for what you're saying and not offended or anything like that. I completely agree with the assessment of an ENT and to listen to advice of Docs because they are giving you personal attention... especially if you've really injured your voice. THIS video is aimed at that "oops, pushed too hard over the weekend or am a little sick" person. BUT, I know that there are situations where people absolutely do need to go on full vocal rest. I've done it myself... but it's for more extreme circumstance than I'm assuming people are facing here. Most of the time, people over react and then their voice feels like it's being spun around from the tail to different extremes: NO TALKING OR USE AT ALL... OK FEELS BETTER... LETS GO SCREAM AND SING ALL NIGHT... OOPS... OVERDID IT AGAIN... ARG... NO TALKING FOR TWO WEEKS etc... But thank you for bringing the very valid and other side to this up as well. It probably deserves a video on its own!
I thank you for these videos, not because I learned new information, but because I love your teaching approach and since I teach myself I'll use some of your examples 👍🏻
I lost my voice for the first time weeks ago, I got a sore throat leading up to singing two shows and then on the 2nd night I lost it. Got a nasty throat infection, couldn't speak at all for a week at least. Antibiotics and rest. Then the second week after that very very sore and red throat and strained feeling throat, felt inflamed everywhere, still recovering now and it's been 3 weeks or so.
I would recommend herbal teas and water during the recovery period just if you get tired of the water. It sounds silly but people do get tired of no flavor. You are right that water heals a lot, but also warm liquids seem to reduce swelling i've personally found. That may just be a one off affect my body has, if it is then im sorry for misinformation.
You’re definitely right, my director has heavily recommended herbal teas when my voice is going rough and has suggested just drinking warm water if you hate tea. (Apparently she does it, personally I think it sounds disgusting. I’m sticking with the tea lol)
Me watching this video when my voice is strained a little: *sips coffee* Chris: don’t drink coffee, drink lots of water! Me: 😳 *runs to fill my water bottle*
I’m currently watching this cause I’ve had band practice back to back and sang I remember you by Skid Row over and over again and my voice is shot and I have pain on the right side of my throat. So I pray I get it back in time for our gig Friday. Lol.
First of all Chris your videos are awesome 👏 Secondly I rap/sing/scream I’m sure many others can do this also would love a video break down on transitioning from different styles all at once and the correct way to do it with out doing any damage to your voice
SOOO important. Partially because you become more aware of all your muscles, including those for singing, but also because it teaches you the discipline of regularly engaging muscles in a certain way for certain tasks. If you understand good physical fitness and participate regularly, you'll be a much better and more versatile singer!
@Chris Liepe Yeah! Lol. I was just thinking about how this video relates in some ways to resistance training/weight lifting. It only makes sense to at least use our typical speaking voice When we Do speak, even if we are resting our voice and trying to limit the total amount of blabbing that day. 'Cause (at least in my mind) those biological parts used in our normal speaking voice would be the most capable of superior endurance and resiliency. Before you even mentioned Whispering for example, I was already thinking how whispering might stress parts of your voice even further. Kinda like if you did an extremely intense leg workout and the next day you are super sore. You would NOT wanna just walk around on tiptoes whenever you inevitably MUST walk for some reason, 'cause that's only gonna increasingly over-stress a smaller group of muscles that are already fatigued. Obviously we would want to attempt to walk using our normal movement, with perhaps a little light stretching and such. ...I think that makes sense, lol 😎. 😜👍
Dude, I am pretty sure that I could name many vocalist, who probably worked out more partying than a single day at the gym. Lets see... hmm, Ozzy, Frank Black, Elvis... I could go on forever. I still encourage any effort to keep health optimal. May not always practice that notion, but I mostly try to do so. Happy vocalizing!
I've used my singing voice for hours a night for several days in a row (feels almost sore). If you are given a hiatus, how many days should you take relative rest, before you do more than short daily warmups? More than warmups in regards to not to lose your conditioning that you had prior to the rest.? I know this is a general question relying on many variables... but what would be your best answer.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable giving you any kind of general advice here because I have not worked with you personally. I would not be fair to you or wise to make assumptions when your vocal health is at stake.
I've been using too much distortion everyday and have been worried about permanent damage will resting my voice for a while in this way make my voice go back to how it was before I started using it violently all of the time? I know it sounds stupid but I'm generally concerned I don't know if this is relevant but I'm a 15 year old male approaching 16 should I stop singing aggressively to help my voice finalise itself Sorry for the essay Chris but I'm worried that I've caused permanent damage and I need some advice
Due to covid and not going places, I haven’t been talking during the day. A small good morning to my family and maybe something in an extracurricular but not often at all. Should I be talking often during the day? Like, when I’m in a class, should I repeat something they say to talk? Or should I stay a bit quieter? Also for vocal rest, is a full no sing, no talk rest healthy?
I know I'm on the wrong video but this is the 1st one I've seen when I got back on here.... I got on here to tell you thank you You said 2 words last night that popped in my head today as I was singing a song that I have been on a slump on.. Along with many others... The songs did not used to be problems for me I would just grip it and rip it without thinking a whole lot about it and then decided I wanted to better myself technically and somewhere along the line I failed myself though I have improved immensely.. I'm a good singer... I know what's up I've been doing it a while...lol...anyways The 2 words were" talk sing"... I was coming up to the part of the song that my throat usually locks up in(past couple months)theeeen talk sing popped in my head ... My confidence grew 10 times in a matter of seconds and I blasted through it like I never have before in for that I wanna thank you for getting me out of my slump.. I'll never forget that...love ur abstract teaching...... In the other video you said forget about the shapes and the technical part at least for that moment and do what u said... It was pretty lights I didn't get a chance to but your advice was more than enough and I can prove it with a video... Heterosexual hug thanks
I appreciate it more than you can realize ..singing is all I have.. It's the only thing I'm good at... I've talked to A few people about it They would give me advice but I just somehow knew wasn't my answer... I was Thinking it may be Something psychological but if it was I wouldnt know... My confidence was shit I do know that much. It already made me insecure on everything.... You took the blinders off me it's that simple.... You don't have to reply back I know you're busy... And I'm a talker Lol..take care my man I will be watching your videos.. If I had money to spare I would give it to You for real you deserve it I wish I could Pay you back somehow..
Hi Chris- this is so helpful. My 15 year old daughter is a musician and in several bands. Weekly she has 8 hours of rehearsal and 1.5hrs of voice lessons and during the school year she does speech and debate. This past week add in 3x 1hr performance sets and a bit of sinus irritation from swimming in the lake. She says her voice doesn't hurt, but says her voice feels tired. I don't want her to do any permanent damage, so I'm taking her to the Dr today to make sure everything is OK. I appreciate this information and I sent her a link to this video to watch. I have a few questions though 1) do you think warm salt water gargle helps at all? 2) cold or warm water? I mean you would think cold might help the inflammation, but generally warm (not hot) liquids feel better if the throat is sore- or maybe it really doesn't matter 3) hard candy- I totally agree with your point about not using anesthetic type sprays/cough drops because you don't want to do more damage- but hard candy should create more saliva to help bathe the throat, do you think that's helpful? Thanks again!
In this performance a couple days ago, she sounds pretty good, but she definitely sound strained on some parts when I listen back to it, where she normally doesn't th-cam.com/video/uX_UpDf-TDg/w-d-xo.html
I am very late to respond to this but I regularly do 4 hour sets of rock vocals. Drink warm water constantly before and during the performance and you will have much more vocal stamina.
@@eek8698 thanks for the reply, she had quite a few shows in a row, because she was doing School of Rock performing band, school of rock house band and was also in her own group with 2 other girls called Pink Tax (actually have an EP on Spotify) She swore to me that there was no pain ever, just some loss of control when she felt fatigued. Now she’s back to school and the shows are fewer this time of year. She hasn’t had any issues lately. So warm water is definitely better than cold? I’ve had her drinking some warm teas back then, that seemed to help. Thanks for the response, I have talked to her vocal teachers about this, and they are aware also.
@George Kountouris it's just like using a suana during a workout. You want to relax your muscles not tense them with cold. I'm sure tea is great after a performance. Warming up and staying warm also plays a huge factor in how long my stamina is and how much I fatuige my voice. I forsure have some "vocal fatigue" my voice gets kinda hoarse and breaks up afterwards and that is normal. Pain should be consulted with a professional though. Sounds like you both are doing the correct things .
Great video as usual, Chris! I've been wondering about something though. Usually when I sing and scream for 4-6 hours, my voice seems to sound a bit deeper for some hours after that, but I don't feel any pain or strain (fry screaming did cause me some minor problems but that's when I was still learning it and doing it incorrectly.) The next day I go to sing and scream, my voice feels perfectly fine and I have very little to no trouble. Should my voice sound like this after singing and screaming? I assumed that I'm just opening up my voice more than I used to, because I'm using all of it's range and projecting through the use of my core- could I be wrong though?
That's GREAT man! You've learned how to be attentive to FEEL and are truly able to, through introspection, be in tune with your voice. I wouldn't worry about the 'lower sound' for the couple hours after at all if you don't feel any discomfort and as long as you're still listening to your body. All is well!
@@chrisliepe Thanks a lot, Chris! I'll make sure to continue listening to my body to see if there's any changes in how feel, during singing and screaming, and after. I'd also like to say that your videos have been a great help in taking my singing to the next level. You have an approach that makes things simple to understand, rather than one that can seem overly convoluted as I've seen with other vocal coaches, and I really appreciate that. Thanks again, keep up the good work, and I hope you are doing well, Chris!
The straw exercises are akin to playing the trumpet, which Ronnie James Dio played in his youth, resulting in him being one of the most powerful rock vocalists of al time.
I've been singing for about 5 years now, much of which has been harsh vocals, primarily false chord, and I have never had a down day, even after growling and screaming for hours without a break, I do however experience my voice dying out during the rest of the day, where the sound dies out on the higher notes of my vocal range, I guess it might have somehing to do with my lack of water consumption during practice, but I just wanted to ask if it means that I'm doing something wrong, or if I should just drink more water during practice?
@@chrisliepe Thank you for this revelation! Means a lot to me! But how do I get out of this bad habbit? Is there a quick guide, or do I need to relearn how to do the stuff that tires my voice?
Im 16 and haven’t been able to sing to full potential for 3 months now what should I do!?!? I’ve tried everything eating honey, gargling salt water, resting my voice and yet I’m still stuck
It's probably not about eating or not eating or doing rituals. It's probably about technique, mindset and habits that are holding you back. Have you joined me free voice course yet? Linked in the video info!
Hello chris..thanks a lot for making this video...I really love your channel and just wanna know that I have suffered from allergies and infections ( not covid) and now maybe deu to heavy medical drugs I have become very weak and dull, in addition, I am not able sing too my normally so how can recover and make my self strong and active
I'm curious if you have a guideline of how many days per week one would rest their voice? Also how long per day is too much singing? Maybe it's individual... I do find after 3 days of 1 hour to hour and a half practice I'm ready for a rest day. But maybe too I am straining and that's why I need what I need where someone who has better technique can go longer and with less rest...
This is all very dependent on the type of singing, what else you have going on with your voice (your speaking at work) and like you said, technique and body awareness. The key really isn't about "how much can I..." but in getting to know your body and use what it gives you in an optimized way. If you want help doing this, head over to chrisliepe.com and check out my course Discover Your Voice. I'll help you learn how to learn :)
Hi Chris! As someone practices more for singing, does their threshold for fatigue eventually widen. I guess what I'm asking is, does practicing work kinda like cardio, where if you do it the right way regularly, you'll be able to last longer?
this is exactly the question I was searching answers for everywhere, because I've been using yousician to get better at guitar and singing, but my voice feels fatigued for the day from just doing a few songs.
I've always loved singing I've been a singer for about 7 years I've taught myself so many things but the voice has been my biggest problem no guitar or piano and I'm starting to get really frustrated that I'm screaming away purposely trying to hurt myself because my voice seems like it's shot anyways, I'm sitting here right now so depressed that I just did that I probably do a vocal damage I love all genres especially metal but I can't sing that I've hurt my voice too much, I think I'm going to give up and just stick to guitar and piano
Hi Chris, I'd like to ask you for advice on straw exercises. In addition to use the straw to relax my voice (working perfectly!) I also tried to use it to warm up my voice, doing some classic exercises (octave slide, long scales, etc) but after a few minutes my vocal cords are so relaxed (and abs tired due to the resistance exerted by the straw) that the voice seems anesthetized and "veiled" (I struggle to get volume in my voice), and consequently I can no longer sing anything. I've heard a lot of good things about straw warm up and I wonder what I could have been wrong. Thank you in advance :D
It's easy to overdo it with straw and lip roll exercises because they are kinda "standard vocal coach" ways to engage the voice. They are good! I use them some, but for VERY quick moments in my warmups. It's best to use the initial sensations you get from the first few cycles through and then move to real, emotionally engaged, improvisational singing of key phrases. Have you checked out any of my courses yet? I'd strongly recommend Discover Your Voice for where it sounds like you're at. :) You can check stuff at at chrisliepe.com
@@chrisliepe ok, i'll try to do as you say :) anyway I've been studying singing for a couple of years already, and I started watching your videos because I'd also like to learn how to add some grit to my voice safely, but you have such a unique and clear way of expressing the concepts that I am slowly watching all your videos/courses and they are helping me a lot. My most sincere congratulations and thanks again 😊
Oh thank you, I got sick over the weekend and my voice is absolutely gone. I can only effectively whisper, any more air and my chords just refuse to come together. I don’t think I’m physically able to give myself a “vocal allowance” just yet, I’ll attempt to work on my breathing and continue to down twice as much water as usual and still be thirsty 30 minutes later.
Everything is fine in moderation and in the right timing. I drink a lot of sparkling water, but not right before I sing cause it makes me burp :) Any liquid that passes over your cords will have an effect, especially if overindulged in. But I literally drink everything... Coffee, tea, sparkling water, whisky, vodka... Just listen to your body and move with what it's telling you as far as moderation :)
@@chrisliepe my high notes are raspy and nearly gone but imma keep resting my voice cus i know tomorrow its gonna get worse no matter what i do, but the good thing is that i'm far from permanent voice loss and this one is temporary
i respect you alot chris but i do not quite understand or agree with the idea of not going full silent when resting. you seem to be implying that range dynamic speaking is necessary to not over stress one part of the voice, but yet, full silence stresses no parts of the voice. there are ways to use your voice after long periods of silence to warm it back up and not injur yourself. and i just simply dont believe healing damage or swelling by silence will suddenly be reversed as soon as you start using your voice again. a sprang ankle is less of a muscle issue and more of a tendant swelling. the vocal folds are very much more delicate and muscle in nature. for me i have chronic laryngitis that iv been struggling with for about 5 years. im an idiot who hasnt voice restee once at all. luckily my voice is actuslly not torn apart and i actually am well, BUT i have constant stress, pain, weakness anytime i speak regardless of my range dynamic. i really need to go full silent.
There are absolutely reasons to go full silent, but it must be done with the right approach and perspective. I should probably do a video on this as you're not the first to comment on my projected "black and white" view of full vocal rest. Thanks for the comment!
@@chrisliepe honestly would love another video on this chris i watch your videos alot man. even though my comment may have seemed catty i assure you it wasnt intended, i just want to get better. your videos have helped me alot
Thank you for this information, Chris! I strained my voice recently, so this is especially timely. Not being able to sing is like being in prison! It's awful. I think you'll find this very interesting. It's about the most severe injury I've ever heard of a singer sustaining and recovery from it: th-cam.com/video/Tx66nSX-P3Y/w-d-xo.html
I’ve got a question man, my voice feels fine when I am singing in my chest and head voice but when I try to mix them to scream my voice feels/sounds hoarse. Any advice?
I actually feel weaker the days following my complete silence. I need to keep things moving and working. I also tend to tense up unnecessarily when I do utter a few mandatory words when I’m trying not to talk at all. It’s better just to decrease the vocal budget for that day, talk in moderation with range filled dynamic speaking. For me at least. :)
Great video!
What about fry? 🤔
My vocal coach told me it can be used to “relax” vocal chords, but I’m noticing that singers have different ideas about this
Ya, fry can be good for your voice. I actually address this in one of my other videos, BUT when people are trying to rest their voice, some tend to 'live' in fry too much, and then it starts working against you because you're not giving your chords enough variety. monotone, or singular position speaking actually does more bad than good for a voice particularly seeking rest and restoration. Try fry through the straw as part of the exercises I share in this video! (I should have put that in :) )
Chris Liepe it makes sense 😅
Thank you!
The range-filled dynamic speaking is a great idea. My mentor was telling me about how damaging monotone speech is. It’s good to know that I’m encouraged to use my voice agilely and fluidly rather than in limitation.
Yes! Awesome! :)
So the reason that you're supposed to keep moving injured things like your ankle in order to help them heal is because muscles are their own heart essentially and if you don't pump the muscle then it doesn't get new blood flow so you're asking your muscles to heal without new blood flow which is basically atrophy
Last week i hurt my voice while yelling impulsively. Felt immediate pain on the vocal chords. Took like 5 days to recover. After 2 day i tried to train lightly and warm it up properly, but felt that 1/3 of performance was missing. Thank god it feels better now, and i learned my lesson.
I'm from Argentina and i'm doing my best to understand everything you say. Love your vids!
You have good English typing skills.
@@chatochafa130 Thank you so much!
For me, vocal is rest is just talking normally, whilst avoiding strain and heavy use of my voice, and then slowly adding those things back in as I start feeling better. For me vocal rest is basically not singing or yelling for a few days, then slowly using my voice more and more until I feel confident going full-force. But not before doing some introspection as to why injury or stress occurred in the first place, and how to prevent it from happening again.
Also, agreed water is king when resting as well as when singing. But green tea with honey is clinically proven to help symptoms of vocal stress/injury as well as many illnesses affecting the throat like laryngitis. Studies actually show that honey has potent antibiotic effects, and can actually be prescribed medically for mild illness like bacterial laryngitis. So green tea is super helpful, but in moderation of course.
I love your simple recovery! And you encourage to not let the false sense of security get to your actual singing!!!
I hurt my voice earlier in the year and wish I had seen this video at the time. I got very afraid of using my voice and potentially causing more damage, and so I would tense up in weird ways every time I would speak or prepare to speak, which obviously only caused more problems (and affected my breathing greatly too). It's important to remember that the vocal cords are made to create sound. While reducing vocal use can be very helpful, I think continuing to practice some amount of natural, dynamic, range-filled speaking like you talk about is essential from both a physical and psychological perspective.
yes, SO important!
Same and if you could i wish that we can talk about it :(
Hey Luke, you might never see this but I hurt my voice and went on rest for months, and now recently I'm back on it from singing. I stopped talking for maybe awhole month and now my voice feels weak and quiet. How did you overcome your vocal issues and learn to speak normally?
@@CrisAye Hi Cris. I just gradually started using it more and more and it got stronger over time. You may just need to be very gentle with how you progress in creating sound. I know there are people who've gone several years without speaking as part of a spiritual practice, so I imagine you can definitely get to full strength again if you are careful and consistent. I forget what's in this video, but humming and basic vocal exercises at your comfort level would probably be useful. I wish you well with this. It might also be useful to seek professional help from a vocal coach or someone knowledgeable about this.
@@lmacdonald I really appreciate it, glad your voice is back together. I'll be taking baby steps then
make a video telling us about you ! Your past, experiences etc, it will be great !! I'm courious and I think I'm not alone !! Lol
Yes please, Chris Liepe, you should.
We'll be glad.
Thanks you.
I’m a musical theatre actress. And this really helped. Thank you!!!
I’m a Soprano 1 in choir! I have a nasty sinus infection rn unfortunately so that’s why I’m on vocal rest :) I hope I can get better before Monday…
I really adore your videos, the knowledge you share is phenomenal! It would be really helpful if you could add chapters to your videos with key notes/titles for the different exercises so it will be easier to follow and practice. x
To add about what you said about the tea. I live in a country where a lot of natural herds and leaves can be used to make tea e.g lime bush. These products are actually more health than artificial tea products.
Chris: Don't stop talking altogether
me: *starts learning sign language*
:)
This is so helpful Chris. Currently I'm going through a period where if I sing or talk too much, my vocal chords feel like they are getting a little burnt. So I look forward to content on TH-cam and this was awesome ❤️
I didn`t know that there is something like resting your voice until I watched an Oprah interview with Whitney and Mariah for the song, "When you believe." Interesting video
I used to sing Volbeat songs everyday thinking that was doing my voice justice not knowing it was doing the opposite. After learning the Zen of Screaming, and learning from others to not constantly sing everyday helped my vocals to literally build up and become more powerful and I started to hit ranges I have never been able to hit before
I'm obsessed with your channel!!! I love it! Gives me a good outlook in my future as a more AGGRESSIVE singer, without me completely losing my voice in the next few years 😂
Chris I'm subscribed and watch and love your videos. I am a professional singer and have been for 20 plus years. I perform on average 5 to 7 shows a week for all those years. Recently I moved to another state and allergies have done a number on me. Needless to say I damaged my voice for the first time (honestly) and had to visit an ENT for therapy and treatment. In a nut shell she recommended the opposite of the advice given in this video. What she recommended: absolutely no speaking for first day. Day 2, 5 minutes speaking am - pm. Day 3, 10 minute speaking am-pm. Day 4, 15 minutes am-pm...and so on. Absolutely no phone calls for 4 weeks. Week 5 low register humming. 10 seconds bursts. This therapy can last months. My point, I think this is a topic that should be handled by a medical professional. Not trying to be a dick. I enjoy your content.
Thanks so much for posting this. I hear you for what you're saying and not offended or anything like that. I completely agree with the assessment of an ENT and to listen to advice of Docs because they are giving you personal attention... especially if you've really injured your voice. THIS video is aimed at that "oops, pushed too hard over the weekend or am a little sick" person. BUT, I know that there are situations where people absolutely do need to go on full vocal rest. I've done it myself... but it's for more extreme circumstance than I'm assuming people are facing here. Most of the time, people over react and then their voice feels like it's being spun around from the tail to different extremes: NO TALKING OR USE AT ALL... OK FEELS BETTER... LETS GO SCREAM AND SING ALL NIGHT... OOPS... OVERDID IT AGAIN... ARG... NO TALKING FOR TWO WEEKS etc... But thank you for bringing the very valid and other side to this up as well. It probably deserves a video on its own!
Ice is a great way to reduce swelling and it increases blood flow and helps speed recovery time
I thank you for these videos, not because I learned new information, but because I love your teaching approach and since I teach myself I'll use some of your examples 👍🏻
Man, you're a lifesaver!
This is great advice in an easy to learn format. Subscribed 👍
I lost my voice for the first time weeks ago, I got a sore throat leading up to singing two shows and then on the 2nd night I lost it. Got a nasty throat infection, couldn't speak at all for a week at least. Antibiotics and rest. Then the second week after that very very sore and red throat and strained feeling throat, felt inflamed everywhere, still recovering now and it's been 3 weeks or so.
I would recommend herbal teas and water during the recovery period just if you get tired of the water. It sounds silly but people do get tired of no flavor. You are right that water heals a lot, but also warm liquids seem to reduce swelling i've personally found. That may just be a one off affect my body has, if it is then im sorry for misinformation.
You’re definitely right, my director has heavily recommended herbal teas when my voice is going rough and has suggested just drinking warm water if you hate tea. (Apparently she does it, personally I think it sounds disgusting. I’m sticking with the tea lol)
Good stuff! I haven't blown my voice out in years but I do occasionally over do it a bit. I appreciate the recovery tips hugely! Subbed.
Me watching this video when my voice is strained a little: *sips coffee*
Chris: don’t drink coffee, drink lots of water!
Me: 😳 *runs to fill my water bottle*
Lol
I’m currently watching this cause I’ve had band practice back to back and sang I remember you by Skid Row over and over again and my voice is shot and I have pain on the right side of my throat. So I pray I get it back in time for our gig Friday. Lol.
First of all
Chris your videos are awesome 👏
Secondly
I rap/sing/scream I’m sure many others can do this also would love a video break down on transitioning from different styles all at once and the correct way to do it with out doing any damage to your voice
Chris please make a video on voice compression..much obliged
how important is physical fitness? like cardio and core muscles ?
SOOO important. Partially because you become more aware of all your muscles, including those for singing, but also because it teaches you the discipline of regularly engaging muscles in a certain way for certain tasks. If you understand good physical fitness and participate regularly, you'll be a much better and more versatile singer!
@@chrisliepe Thanks for the response, are there any physical activities to avoid in the gym that will ve of detriment ?
@Chris Liepe Yeah! Lol. I was just thinking about how this video relates in some ways to resistance training/weight lifting.
It only makes sense to at least use our typical speaking voice When we Do speak, even if we are resting our voice and trying to limit the total amount of blabbing that day. 'Cause (at least in my mind) those biological parts used in our normal speaking voice would be the most capable of superior endurance and resiliency. Before you even mentioned Whispering for example, I was already thinking how whispering might stress parts of your voice even further. Kinda like if you did an extremely intense leg workout and the next day you are super sore. You would NOT wanna just walk around on tiptoes whenever you inevitably MUST walk for some reason, 'cause that's only gonna increasingly over-stress a smaller group of muscles that are already fatigued. Obviously we would want to attempt to walk using our normal movement, with perhaps a little light stretching and such. ...I think that makes sense, lol 😎. 😜👍
Dude, I am pretty sure that I could name many vocalist, who probably worked out more partying than a single day at the gym. Lets see... hmm, Ozzy, Frank Black, Elvis... I could go on forever. I still encourage any effort to keep health optimal. May not always practice that notion, but I mostly try to do so. Happy vocalizing!
I've used my singing voice for hours a night for several days in a row (feels almost sore). If you are given a hiatus, how many days should you take relative rest, before you do more than short daily warmups? More than warmups in regards to not to lose your conditioning that you had prior to the rest.? I know this is a general question relying on many variables... but what would be your best answer.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable giving you any kind of general advice here because I have not worked with you personally. I would not be fair to you or wise to make assumptions when your vocal health is at stake.
@@chrisliepe super fair. I bet we all have different recovery speeds so it probably isn't the best to recommend specifics.
Thank you Chris!.
Thanks for the videos, very interesting and well articulated content. Re drinking water, is sparkling water ok?
Sparkling water makes me burp too much :)
I've been using too much distortion everyday and have been worried about permanent damage will resting my voice for a while in this way make my voice go back to how it was before I started using it violently all of the time? I know it sounds stupid but I'm generally concerned
I don't know if this is relevant but I'm a 15 year old male approaching 16 should I stop singing aggressively to help my voice finalise itself
Sorry for the essay Chris but I'm worried that I've caused permanent damage and I need some advice
Due to covid and not going places, I haven’t been talking during the day. A small good morning to my family and maybe something in an extracurricular but not often at all. Should I be talking often during the day? Like, when I’m in a class, should I repeat something they say to talk? Or should I stay a bit quieter? Also for vocal rest, is a full no sing, no talk rest healthy?
in general, full on NOTHING isn't the way I go. I've found it to work against me. It's better to talk a little and sing a little and mindfully.
@@chrisliepe alright, thank you!
I know I'm on the wrong video but this is the 1st one I've seen when I got back on here.... I got on here to tell you thank you You said 2 words last night that popped in my head today as I was singing a song that I have been on a slump on.. Along with many others... The songs did not used to be problems for me I would just grip it and rip it without thinking a whole lot about it and then decided I wanted to better myself technically and somewhere along the line I failed myself though I have improved immensely.. I'm a good singer... I know what's up I've been doing it a while...lol...anyways The 2 words were" talk sing"... I was coming up to the part of the song that my throat usually locks up in(past couple months)theeeen talk sing popped in my head ... My confidence grew 10 times in a matter of seconds and I blasted through it like I never have before in for that I wanna thank you for getting me out of my slump.. I'll never forget that...love ur abstract teaching...... In the other video you said forget about the shapes and the technical part at least for that moment and do what u said... It was pretty lights I didn't get a chance to but your advice was more than enough and I can prove it with a video... Heterosexual hug thanks
which I could "double love" a comment. GREAT man! I'm honored to be able to give you the tools you need to sing even better!!! You made my day!
I appreciate it more than you can realize ..singing is all I have.. It's the only thing I'm good at... I've talked to A few people about it They would give me advice but I just somehow knew wasn't my answer... I was Thinking it may be Something psychological but if it was I wouldnt know... My confidence was shit I do know that much. It already made me insecure on everything.... You took the blinders off me it's that simple.... You don't have to reply back I know you're busy... And I'm a talker Lol..take care my man I will be watching your videos.. If I had money to spare I would give it to You for real you deserve it I wish I could Pay you back somehow..
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Amazing videos Chris, love the channel!
God bless you
Very helpful, thank you!🙂
Hi Chris- this is so helpful. My 15 year old daughter is a musician and in several bands. Weekly she has 8 hours of rehearsal and 1.5hrs of voice lessons and during the school year she does speech and debate. This past week add in 3x 1hr performance sets and a bit of sinus irritation from swimming in the lake. She says her voice doesn't hurt, but says her voice feels tired. I don't want her to do any permanent damage, so I'm taking her to the Dr today to make sure everything is OK. I appreciate this information and I sent her a link to this video to watch. I have a few questions though 1) do you think warm salt water gargle helps at all? 2) cold or warm water? I mean you would think cold might help the inflammation, but generally warm (not hot) liquids feel better if the throat is sore- or maybe it really doesn't matter 3) hard candy- I totally agree with your point about not using anesthetic type sprays/cough drops because you don't want to do more damage- but hard candy should create more saliva to help bathe the throat, do you think that's helpful? Thanks again!
In this performance a couple days ago, she sounds pretty good, but she definitely sound strained on some parts when I listen back to it, where she normally doesn't th-cam.com/video/uX_UpDf-TDg/w-d-xo.html
I am very late to respond to this but I regularly do 4 hour sets of rock vocals. Drink warm water constantly before and during the performance and you will have much more vocal stamina.
@George Kountouris If the throat is sore to the point that it hurts there is damage being done. That comes down to techniques.
@@eek8698 thanks for the reply, she had quite a few shows in a row, because she was doing School of Rock performing band, school of rock house band and was also in her own group with 2 other girls called Pink Tax (actually have an EP on Spotify) She swore to me that there was no pain ever, just some loss of control when she felt fatigued. Now she’s back to school and the shows are fewer this time of year. She hasn’t had any issues lately. So warm water is definitely better than cold? I’ve had her drinking some warm teas back then, that seemed to help. Thanks for the response, I have talked to her vocal teachers about this, and they are aware also.
@George Kountouris it's just like using a suana during a workout. You want to relax your muscles not tense them with cold. I'm sure tea is great after a performance. Warming up and staying warm also plays a huge factor in how long my stamina is and how much I fatuige my voice. I forsure have some "vocal fatigue" my voice gets kinda hoarse and breaks up afterwards and that is normal. Pain should be consulted with a professional though. Sounds like you both are doing the correct things .
Great video as usual, Chris! I've been wondering about something though. Usually when I sing and scream for 4-6 hours, my voice seems to sound a bit deeper for some hours after that, but I don't feel any pain or strain (fry screaming did cause me some minor problems but that's when I was still learning it and doing it incorrectly.) The next day I go to sing and scream, my voice feels perfectly fine and I have very little to no trouble.
Should my voice sound like this after singing and screaming? I assumed that I'm just opening up my voice more than I used to, because I'm using all of it's range and projecting through the use of my core- could I be wrong though?
That's GREAT man! You've learned how to be attentive to FEEL and are truly able to, through introspection, be in tune with your voice. I wouldn't worry about the 'lower sound' for the couple hours after at all if you don't feel any discomfort and as long as you're still listening to your body. All is well!
@@chrisliepe Thanks a lot, Chris! I'll make sure to continue listening to my body to see if there's any changes in how feel, during singing and screaming, and after.
I'd also like to say that your videos have been a great help in taking my singing to the next level. You have an approach that makes things simple to understand, rather than one that can seem overly convoluted as I've seen with other vocal coaches, and I really appreciate that.
Thanks again, keep up the good work, and I hope you are doing well, Chris!
I love your videos keep up the good work😁
Chris: don't drink coffee.
Me: it's time to ban coffee
hehe
5:07 thats bad, i am addicted to coffee 😞
It’s a tough one to break. Do your best, and don’t give up!
The straw exercises are akin to playing the trumpet, which Ronnie James Dio played in his youth, resulting in him being one of the most powerful rock vocalists of al time.
I've been singing for about 5 years now, much of which has been harsh vocals, primarily false chord, and I have never had a down day, even after growling and screaming for hours without a break, I do however experience my voice dying out during the rest of the day, where the sound dies out on the higher notes of my vocal range, I guess it might have somehing to do with my lack of water consumption during practice, but I just wanted to ask if it means that I'm doing something wrong, or if I should just drink more water during practice?
Sounds like a budgeting issue mostly. You might be burning out and pushing past your confirm threshold!
@@chrisliepe Thank you for this revelation! Means a lot to me! But how do I get out of this bad habbit? Is there a quick guide, or do I need to relearn how to do the stuff that tires my voice?
3 am but why not, I love your videos 😃
ha... awesome! had you're into them!!
Im 16 and haven’t been able to sing to full potential for 3 months now what should I do!?!? I’ve tried everything eating honey, gargling salt water, resting my voice and yet I’m still stuck
It's probably not about eating or not eating or doing rituals. It's probably about technique, mindset and habits that are holding you back. Have you joined me free voice course yet? Linked in the video info!
how much heurs per day and how much days per week i can sing/doing vocal without problems for my voice?
What do you think about small glottal stops, keeping them very comfortable and considering good vocal cord closure? Also inward glottal stops.
I like them! I just did a video on the use of glottal stops for warming up! Very effective!
@@chrisliepe so glad to hear about it!
Is it available?
I find steam inhalation very helpful as it moisturizes the vocal cords directly.
Hello chris..thanks a lot for making this video...I really love your channel and just wanna know that I have suffered from allergies and infections ( not covid) and now maybe deu to heavy medical drugs I have become very weak and dull, in addition, I am not able sing too my normally so how can recover and make my self strong and active
Have you joined my free course yet? That'd be a great place to start... linked in the video info!
@@chrisliepe sure I'll do that
I'm curious if you have a guideline of how many days per week one would rest their voice? Also how long per day is too much singing? Maybe it's individual... I do find after 3 days of 1 hour to hour and a half practice I'm ready for a rest day. But maybe too I am straining and that's why I need what I need where someone who has better technique can go longer and with less rest...
This is all very dependent on the type of singing, what else you have going on with your voice (your speaking at work) and like you said, technique and body awareness. The key really isn't about "how much can I..." but in getting to know your body and use what it gives you in an optimized way. If you want help doing this, head over to chrisliepe.com and check out my course Discover Your Voice. I'll help you learn how to learn :)
Hey! I love ur videos, can u make one of transitions in composition :c I’m having a really hard time with that and also finding B parts that fit
Hi Chris! As someone practices more for singing, does their threshold for fatigue eventually widen. I guess what I'm asking is, does practicing work kinda like cardio, where if you do it the right way regularly, you'll be able to last longer?
Absolutely it works like cardio and strength training both!
this is exactly the question I was searching answers for everywhere, because I've been using yousician to get better at guitar and singing, but my voice feels fatigued for the day from just doing a few songs.
Please make a video about how to use a god dm microphone
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I've always loved singing I've been a singer for about 7 years I've taught myself so many things but the voice has been my biggest problem no guitar or piano and I'm starting to get really frustrated that I'm screaming away purposely trying to hurt myself because my voice seems like it's shot anyways, I'm sitting here right now so depressed that I just did that I probably do a vocal damage I love all genres especially metal but I can't sing that I've hurt my voice too much, I think I'm going to give up and just stick to guitar and piano
Looking for compassion or what
Hi Chris, I'd like to ask you for advice on straw exercises. In addition to use the straw to relax my voice (working perfectly!) I also tried to use it to warm up my voice, doing some classic exercises (octave slide, long scales, etc) but after a few minutes my vocal cords are so relaxed (and abs tired due to the resistance exerted by the straw) that the voice seems anesthetized and "veiled" (I struggle to get volume in my voice), and consequently I can no longer sing anything. I've heard a lot of good things about straw warm up and I wonder what I could have been wrong. Thank you in advance :D
It's easy to overdo it with straw and lip roll exercises because they are kinda "standard vocal coach" ways to engage the voice. They are good! I use them some, but for VERY quick moments in my warmups. It's best to use the initial sensations you get from the first few cycles through and then move to real, emotionally engaged, improvisational singing of key phrases. Have you checked out any of my courses yet? I'd strongly recommend Discover Your Voice for where it sounds like you're at. :) You can check stuff at at chrisliepe.com
@@chrisliepe ok, i'll try to do as you say :) anyway I've been studying singing for a couple of years already, and I started watching your videos because I'd also like to learn how to add some grit to my voice safely, but you have such a unique and clear way of expressing the concepts that I am slowly watching all your videos/courses and they are helping me a lot. My most sincere congratulations and thanks again 😊
can I book a consultation with you on zoom?
Thank you
Chris at 9:33
"I didn't inhale" :D
Oh thank you, I got sick over the weekend and my voice is absolutely gone. I can only effectively whisper, any more air and my chords just refuse to come together. I don’t think I’m physically able to give myself a “vocal allowance” just yet, I’ll attempt to work on my breathing and continue to down twice as much water as usual and still be thirsty 30 minutes later.
is it good to sing only twice a week
There's no set number. Just be sure to listen to your body!
I’ve read sparkling water is bad for your vocal chords. Would you agree, Chris?
Everything is fine in moderation and in the right timing. I drink a lot of sparkling water, but not right before I sing cause it makes me burp :) Any liquid that passes over your cords will have an effect, especially if overindulged in. But I literally drink everything... Coffee, tea, sparkling water, whisky, vodka... Just listen to your body and move with what it's telling you as far as moderation :)
@@chrisliepe thanks, Chris!
I love water so fucking much
Do you like lip trills?
Yes!
What if i rest my voice for a month?
You'll have some reconditioning to do when you get back to it, and just make sure to take things slowly so you don't cause problems upon re-entry!
I drink Throat Coat. Should I stop, or is this just something singers all have different opinions on? Thanks in advance for your answer, Chris! :)
Tea is fine if you like it. Just don’t expect it to fix anything :)
Your great
9:34 that’s good shit
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How long until your voice supposed to recover?
Usually a few days... unless allergies or lifestyle factors prolong it.
@@chrisliepe my high notes are raspy and nearly gone but imma keep resting my voice cus i know tomorrow its gonna get worse no matter what i do, but the good thing is that i'm far from permanent voice loss and this one is temporary
i respect you alot chris but i do not quite understand or agree with the idea of not going full silent when resting. you seem to be implying that range dynamic speaking is necessary to not over stress one part of the voice, but yet, full silence stresses no parts of the voice. there are ways to use your voice after long periods of silence to warm it back up and not injur yourself. and i just simply dont believe healing damage or swelling by silence will suddenly be reversed as soon as you start using your voice again. a sprang ankle is less of a muscle issue and more of a tendant swelling. the vocal folds are very much more delicate and muscle in nature. for me i have chronic laryngitis that iv been struggling with for about 5 years. im an idiot who hasnt voice restee once at all. luckily my voice is actuslly not torn apart and i actually am well, BUT i have constant stress, pain, weakness anytime i speak regardless of my range dynamic. i really need to go full silent.
There are absolutely reasons to go full silent, but it must be done with the right approach and perspective. I should probably do a video on this as you're not the first to comment on my projected "black and white" view of full vocal rest. Thanks for the comment!
@@chrisliepe honestly would love another video on this chris i watch your videos alot man. even though my comment may have seemed catty i assure you it wasnt intended, i just want to get better. your videos have helped me alot
Thank you for this information, Chris! I strained my voice recently, so this is especially timely. Not being able to sing is like being in prison! It's awful. I think you'll find this very interesting. It's about the most severe injury I've ever heard of a singer sustaining and recovery from it: th-cam.com/video/Tx66nSX-P3Y/w-d-xo.html
I haven't used my voice for 6 days
time to ease back in :) !!
@@chrisliepe I can't I still have no voice
I’ve got a question man, my voice feels fine when I am singing in my chest and head voice but when I try to mix them to scream my voice feels/sounds hoarse. Any advice?
Check out this one for more on mixed voice! th-cam.com/video/t_wju9Numnk/w-d-xo.html
Chris Liepe Just what I needed man👌🏼 Thanks!
What is I don't have a straw.
they are inexpensive :)
@@chrisliepe Sir can I send you my voice and feedback me some things that I should work on
Stream your voice ... gargle gently with salt water
Not talking at all for a day seems to work for me
If it works for you, that's great! I've had much more success with learning to moderate my "vocal budget" on resting days.
@@chrisliepe how come complete silence day(s) don't work for you?
I actually feel weaker the days following my complete silence. I need to keep things moving and working. I also tend to tense up unnecessarily when I do utter a few mandatory words when I’m trying not to talk at all. It’s better just to decrease the vocal budget for that day, talk in moderation with range filled dynamic speaking. For me at least. :)
Maybe I should try both ways
Cool boiled water
Warm water
Eat fruits