I love your clarity, diction, and measured narration. One basic point about PSUs that I may have missed in the video is that the Wattage rating is the maximum power delivered, not the maximum power drawn from the wall. Very many people seem to not know that and thus over-spec their PSUs.
I learnt a valuable lesson years ago when a cheap PSU I had in my pc started to catch fire. Instead of the PSU shutting itself down it got louder and louder with sparks coming out the back and it was just lucky that I was able to reach the power cable and yank it out on the PSU. Since then I only buy quality PSUs my current one being a Corsair RM650X that I've owned for 5 years and it's still under warranty. seasonic is another brand I have alot of respect for, and will probably buy one with my next computer when I need more than 650w.
My advice would be, if you can wait for the updated 12v 2x6 PSU's and do not buy the now outgoing 12VHPWR. I would love an ATX12VO because I dislike my rig pulling 70 watts at idle but the big 4 Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers (Asus, Gigabyte, MSi, ASRock) don't want to make boards for them apparently
but there is no new PSU that supports ATX 3.1 as that might be released next year. Atx3 got obsolete so quickly no wonder there are right and left sales for them. Caveat emptor for 12VHPWR connector for the GPU.
The "latest" "advance" in PC PSU is the 12VO PSU. This innovative design moves the 5 V and 3 V regulators out of the PSU and onto the motherboard. Same circuit, different location. How creative!!!! And it is not even the communications standard of 48 V that has been in use for decades. The 1920 vintage VRMs on the motherboards and video cards can't handle 48 V.
I went with future proofing. Got myself a 1600W (phanteks revolt 1600 which is a rebadged seasonic prime tx). Assuming around 600-650W total load which is around the 40% mark. The cybenetics rating is also a noteworthy mention here. My idea was to have very less noise in my PC so, yes, I overspent.
Yep. The only thing I would like to see them do is to implement a fully digital stage like Corsair does on their AX1600i. Can’t go wrong with close to 200% excursion either.
Thank you! Got the full size one, not compact - FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum Full Modular Power Supply (HPT2-1200,Gen5) to replace a 9 year old EVGA1300G2 , it runs , but the 12v rail is not what I want for my 4090 , 11.7 low to 12.3 high , the EVGA replace a 15 year Corsair TX750w and it still runs as well
Been a week since I got the FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum Full Modular Power Supply (HPT2-1200,Gen5) -12v high-power rail rock steady at 12v vs 9 year old EVGA1300G2 11.7v , will use EVGA 1300G2 in second rig with a 1080Ti ,old buddies' reunited !
That regulation is awful for the price lmao. I got a TT toughpower 1200w gf3 and reviewers note that one of its main and few weaknesses is its mediocre 12v load regulation and yet that still only goes from ~12.15v to ~12.0v under 100% load lmao. That being said ripple is even more important but u cant really measure it urself, if it has voltage regulation like that not hopeful for its ripple either.
PSUs have got a bit complicated of late. Haven't been in the market lately and have been looking at bits and pieces. This makes it a bit easier to choose a PSU rather than just buy the most expensive one on the market.
How does one mount their GPU like the one shown at 7:33 in this video? I would like to know how you route the cables through the case when it's in this orientation.
Also, extra modular cables not going into the case should be tagged or grouped (e.g. cable tie or dedicated bin) so you KNOW which power supply they came with. Why? Not all cables are wired the same, even among some different models of the same manufacturer! Don’t rely on appearance either as different manufacturers’ cables can appear identical. Mixups can fry components.
Nice guide! You missed one: Seasonix Vertex GX, their new gaming series with pre-sleeved cables and incredible efficiency (tested by Cybenetis to reach PLATINUM efficiency when using 230 volts), low noise, japanese capacitors, huge amounts of cabling, etc.
thanks Dominic, interesting to learn a few things - always found this stuff monumentally dull after watching some really hardcore videos on it on other channels. I actually ended up on my phone while the videos played.
Its been a bit of a scandal for a while, not sure if its still quite as prevalent, but you used to really have to check on the official site to see if a unit was truly certified. Some chinese brands just put the badge on their boxes without actually getting it certified. people used to check here for vertification from the source www.clearesult.com/80plus/
Hey guys, I often reference your videos, and I was wondering if you could help me. I am looking for a fan controller that can handle 2-4 pin fans but they have to have really high quality capacitors, inductors and linear regulator as I'm doing some work that requires it. One person suggested Aquacomputer Coolers, which are really expensive. I only really need a couple of headers to connect fans to, but I do need to be able to instantly cut the power, too. Do you know of anything that would help? I have an Akasa FC.Trio and a Copal Fan Controller from EN-Labs, but neither is good enough.
I really wanted my hx1000i corsair power supply to be a winner at this 😢 I just like to hook it up and see the voltage and fan speeds with efficiency it's nice to see the data.
We havent reviewed the newer versions of that in recent years, I just checked back and it was 2014 for that model on the main site. We did review the Corsair SF1000L SFX-L in May however along with the RM1000e ATX 3.0 units. can see them all over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5
They are difficult to review on video without putting people to sleep, but if you dont mind reading a bit, check out some reviews over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5
eh, looking over at Amazon in the US, given what your getting for the prices I am seeing, the prices are not up much and in some cases not at all. Maybe the entries went up and since I dont look there, I am not seeing it
Hello KitGuruTech how are you? I would like your input on the following, since I'm starting to think I might have screwed up. I've currently bought the following parts to build my PC + Monitor - Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero - Samsung SSD 990 Pro NVMe M.2 - ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 4090 GAMING OC - Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB 6600MHz) - ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB - Intel Core i9-14900K - Lian-li Fan AL VS ARGB x7 - ASUS ROG Thor Platinum 1000P II Platinum - Corsair 5000D Airflow - Alienware AW3423DWF 34 Before i purchased it I've looked in several websites that calculate Watt consumption and they recommended 1000W, but after reading a bit more today I'm a bit concerned it might not be enough. Since it's still on the Box and probably can still upgrade it, despite all the work is going to give, is it worth it, or this power supply will be enough? Thank you in advance for your time and help
Back when I was dumber, I managed to fry a no-name, "came with the case" PSU by upgrading to a GTX 260 without giving a thought to power-consumption. Problem was that the card was around 3 to 4 times as power-hungry as my previous GPU - around 200W IIRC, which was pretty outrageous for a mid-tier GPU at that time. I went with a totally overkill bequiet Dark Power 650W because that was the only high quality PSU in the power-range I wanted my local HW-store had in stock ... and it was a Saturday.. :) Ever since then, I've stuck with bequiet more out of habit (that 650W-PSU still exists and, for all I know, still works) , but I would never, ever again buy a no-name brand, ketchup-and-mustard PSU. Besides that, I think there are just a few basic guidelines to follow, even if you're on a tighter budget: Is the manufacturer reputable/known for high quality PSUs? Does the PSU have decent/good reviews from reliable, independent sources? How long is the manufacturer's warranty? One reason why I've stuck with bequiet is that they offer a 10 year warranty - at least for my current Straight Power 12 they do. Which is always a good sign IMO, since it strongly implies that the manufacturer themselves trust that their product will outlast the rest of your system.
You also don't want to run your PSU at less than 20%. Idle is more common than many think. YT, desktop, etc. Once you go platinum+, you never go back. The compact silence is so tempting. And anything below Gold in 2023 is just wrong. PSU can easily last for 10 years unlike many other parts so it's the single best investment. It doesn't run out of fashion or fps. As for modular vs semi/non - modular is overrated. If you are into custom, resoldering is actually easier. Besides that, cable management and extensions work with both.
@@haremofprocessors6954 If you do custom cables, soldering is actually faster and easier. You don't have to make pins on both ends. Cut the right size and solder one end right to the PSU board. You should have some basic understanding of electricity, safety and capacitors in particular though. So there is no need for a more expensive modular PSU in the first place. The only problem - you won't find any PSU above Gold rating with semi-modular or fixed cables afaik. So you are forced into modular if you are looking for decent cool and silent PSU.
I went mid-range = a Mars Gaming 850w Modular (full).... did I do ok or did I screw up? For double the price I could have got a Corsair... but... double the price....
I just bought a new Corsair, hope its ok, never read much about it before buying ! still waiting for the RGB on power supplies to be controllable via icue lol
Torn Between Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 850watts PSU and Seasonic Prime GX gold 1000watts PSU , almost same price here in Philippines. which should i pick, 7800x3d and RTX 4070 (Maybe upgrade when time comes). Thanks
Probably a silly question but, is the Seasonic Focus GX-100 White Edition the same model as the Focus GX-100 mentioned in the video. Just want to make sure I'm getting the same model you recommended but in white.
Is there any list of PSU failures or coil wine? I am interested in these 3 and i want the most silent without any fan or coil noise Asus Rog Strix Gold Aura 1000W Corsair Hx1000i (2023) FSP Hydro Ti 1000W
Very VERY informative video ,subscribed !!! thank you! i have a 1,5 year old corsair gold rm750x psu and i bought an atx msi b660 a pro along with an i5 13500 and an rtx 3060 ,Is l it ok to built this system with this corsair psu or should i buy a bigger one? it is in very good condition , will it be able to handle the gpu power spikes etc?
Seasonic make all their own designs. We have been reviewing them for 15 years now and have been to their factories. A lot of companies use their designs.
90% of ppl here wont need anything more than a 650W psu..so here are the recommendations for 850+ psu-s...i mean come on.. also zero mentions that there are a lot of psu calculators out there if someone needs a guide... also it would have been nice to have some tipical builds like a 5600 + 6700xt a tell an egzakt value...also i dont see any mention of do i need atx 3.0 or not
Well if you would watch the video there is a bit of explanation on efficiency levels, and exactly why we have recommended some of what we have - factoring in capacitor strain, lower fan speeds, cooler running internal temps and lower noise. Also in 2023 we have actually not been sent a lot of lower spec power supplies to review, so we can not recommend power supplies we haven't received as we havent tested them in the labs. some content is over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5. - as for more detail, yes we can do more videos on this, its already over 12 minutes and people get bored. its a tough subject to cover quickly and without putting people to sleep - which is why we don't do a lot of PSU video content on the youtube side. Sorry it was a disappointment, we will keep trying.
how do we calculate power needed with those power draw spikes from those boosting cpu and gpus? some look like they can draw quite alot more for short times then what is the normal usage? some of the psu calculators tell me i use around 450W max and then get crashes with some midrange 550w psus, currently i run some ok 700W gold psu just fine but at some point i would like to get some upgrade and some of those gpus look like they could replace heating for my room...so i would like to figure out what i might be able to throw in that will still work fine or if i need to add extra budget for a more powerfull psu if i want to get something a bit more power hungry then the card i currently have.
yeah thanks :) i already read your well written reviews :) the one of the FSP, the corsair's rm1200x shift, and the review of the Seasonic Vertex GX-1200 @@KitGuruTech
A rubbish power supply is a false economy can cause real headaches with system stability. The amount of times I've had to troubleshoot a build and it ended up being the power supply is many.
I second that. Had an orbi router that was in a constant reboot cycle. Was about to throw it in the bin when I tried changing the power brick it comes with. It booted straight away. There wasnt enough amperage coming from the power supply to power the wifi antenna (I'm guessing).
Efficiency is so high regardless that I barely factor it into my buying and instead look for the performance indicators (ripple, load regulation, transient response) that tells u how good it is at actually doing its job being providing clean power to your components not whether it's 96% or 93% efficient lmao who cares. Doubly so seeing I'm on 230v too which means our gold is equavilent to the Americans platinum efficiency roughly seeing they're on the less effcient 115v power standard Also unlike u Europeans tho Australia power prices aren't that bad and I have solar
TLDR: Do not be cheap and buy a no-name brand power supply or even a cheap power supply bfrom a known brand.....The power Supply is the CORE of your system: If it can not supply the necessary power that your components demand at their PEAK, then it's no good. You should ALWAYS overestimate by at least 150w, when it comes to buying a PSU.
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Seasonic are fantastic. Always bought them. Even the old supplies I’ve given to people after moving up are still working.
Yeah I love them as well. I’ve had good luck with flextronic too.
It’s true
100%
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agree, had a few , and. they are quiet, and never give any problems. moved from a cheap brand I had and i stopped getting hard locks too
Seasonic supplies are really amazing. I've been using them for 20 years now, and my oldest supply from 2002 still works.
I always check Cybenetics ratings for PSU's. They have noise ratings as well as efficiency and in general seem to be better than 80+.
I love your clarity, diction, and measured narration. One basic point about PSUs that I may have missed in the video is that the Wattage rating is the maximum power delivered, not the maximum power drawn from the wall. Very many people seem to not know that and thus over-spec their PSUs.
Thanks glad you enjoyed the article on some level.
I learnt a valuable lesson years ago when a cheap PSU I had in my pc started to catch fire. Instead of the PSU shutting itself down it got louder and louder with sparks coming out the back and it was just lucky that I was able to reach the power cable and yank it out on the PSU. Since then I only buy quality PSUs my current one being a Corsair RM650X that I've owned for 5 years and it's still under warranty. seasonic is another brand I have alot of respect for, and will probably buy one with my next computer when I need more than 650w.
Quite like a modular PSU as it makes it way easier to route those cables as you pointed out plus you dont have to use all the cables.
My advice would be, if you can wait for the updated 12v 2x6 PSU's and do not buy the now outgoing 12VHPWR. I would love an ATX12VO because I dislike my rig pulling 70 watts at idle but the big 4 Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers (Asus, Gigabyte, MSi, ASRock) don't want to make boards for them apparently
Isn't it just a case of pin length rather than the connector being all new?
Yes I think you are correct@@dreschaffhausen5693
but there is no new PSU that supports ATX 3.1 as that might be released next year. Atx3 got obsolete so quickly no wonder there are right and left sales for them. Caveat emptor for 12VHPWR connector for the GPU.
The "latest" "advance" in PC PSU is the 12VO PSU. This innovative design moves the 5 V and 3 V regulators out of the PSU and onto the motherboard. Same circuit, different location. How creative!!!! And it is not even the communications standard of 48 V that has been in use for decades. The 1920 vintage VRMs on the motherboards and video cards can't handle 48 V.
seems insane to me
I really didnt realise how complicated all this stuff can be!
Hopefully it helped a bit !
I watched this after ordering the Seasonic Focus GX-1000. Kinda reassuring.
I went with future proofing. Got myself a 1600W (phanteks revolt 1600 which is a rebadged seasonic prime tx). Assuming around 600-650W total load which is around the 40% mark. The cybenetics rating is also a noteworthy mention here. My idea was to have very less noise in my PC so, yes, I overspent.
Sounds like you know what you are doing mate
Phanteks seem to work closely with Seasonic, which is good to see.
Yep. The only thing I would like to see them do is to implement a fully digital stage like Corsair does on their AX1600i. Can’t go wrong with close to 200% excursion either.
@canarychrome7012, I do feel slightly guilty but I guess that’s bound to happen given the overall HW I have at the moment.
@@fjallmann Good supply, whats the spec of your system?
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction trying to build a PC for my BF and have no idea where to start.
good for you in building it for him. glad we helped.
WIsh my wife would buy and build me one !
psu tier list is a good place to start
Thank you! Got the full size one, not compact - FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum Full Modular Power Supply (HPT2-1200,Gen5) to replace a 9 year old EVGA1300G2 , it runs , but the 12v rail is not what I want for my 4090 , 11.7 low to 12.3 high , the EVGA replace a 15 year Corsair TX750w and it still runs as well
Been a week since I got the FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum Full Modular Power Supply (HPT2-1200,Gen5) -12v high-power rail rock steady at 12v vs 9 year old EVGA1300G2 11.7v , will use EVGA 1300G2 in second rig with a 1080Ti ,old buddies' reunited !
That regulation is awful for the price lmao. I got a TT toughpower 1200w gf3 and reviewers note that one of its main and few weaknesses is its mediocre 12v load regulation and yet that still only goes from ~12.15v to ~12.0v under 100% load lmao. That being said ripple is even more important but u cant really measure it urself, if it has voltage regulation like that not hopeful for its ripple either.
Your happy for your needs , good for you .@@Frozoken
PSUs have got a bit complicated of late. Haven't been in the market lately and have been looking at bits and pieces. This makes it a bit easier to choose a PSU rather than just buy the most expensive one on the market.
Kitguru reviews on psu are good.
its very confusing but this made some sense to me. good to feel a bit educated lol still dont understand a lot of it
How does one mount their GPU like the one shown at 7:33 in this video? I would like to know how you route the cables through the case when it's in this orientation.
Also, extra modular cables not going into the case should be tagged or grouped (e.g. cable tie or dedicated bin) so you KNOW which power supply they came with. Why? Not all cables are wired the same, even among some different models of the same manufacturer!
Don’t rely on appearance either as different manufacturers’ cables can appear identical. Mixups can fry components.
Awesome video! Cleared all my doubts. Thank you guys 🙌🏻
Nice guide! You missed one: Seasonix Vertex GX, their new gaming series with pre-sleeved cables and incredible efficiency (tested by Cybenetis to reach PLATINUM efficiency when using 230 volts), low noise, japanese capacitors, huge amounts of cabling, etc.
I always use Seasonic, my new one is an Antec Signature Titanium 1000w (Seasonic).
Purchased it, as CCL had it at a really good price..
Very nice!
Been using Toshiba Power Supplies for years and have had no problems.
Got my first seasonic after this video saw the prime tx-1300 on Amazon used for 280 if anything I’ll use their warranty early and be fine
Nicely thought out Dominic. Really great going to watch it again later
I can't take the credit - all the work was done by Allan (our Editor In Chief) - I was just the voice! -Dominic
I'm. Using FSP HYDRO PTM PRO 1200 now
Good watch there. Thanks Dominic. Really clear to follow !❤
No problem 👍
thanks Dominic, interesting to learn a few things - always found this stuff monumentally dull after watching some really hardcore videos on it on other channels. I actually ended up on my phone while the videos played.
I can't take the credit - all the work was done by Allan (our Editor In Chief) - I was just the voice! -Dominic
Lol those videos of the computers catching fire.
Whats the point of having the 80 plus gold sticker if manufacturers are going to lie about whether or not they are certified?
Its been a bit of a scandal for a while, not sure if its still quite as prevalent, but you used to really have to check on the official site to see if a unit was truly certified. Some chinese brands just put the badge on their boxes without actually getting it certified. people used to check here for vertification from the source www.clearesult.com/80plus/
Thanks Dominic. Put a lot of work into this 👍🏻
No problem!
Just made my mind up on the Xpro 1200w! Been eyeing it for a while! Cheers.
good PSU that, read a few reviews on it.
I always try and buy Seasonic.
Hey guys, I often reference your videos, and I was wondering if you could help me. I am looking for a fan controller that can handle 2-4 pin fans but they have to have really high quality capacitors, inductors and linear regulator as I'm doing some work that requires it. One person suggested Aquacomputer Coolers, which are really expensive. I only really need a couple of headers to connect fans to, but I do need to be able to instantly cut the power, too. Do you know of anything that would help?
I have an Akasa FC.Trio and a Copal Fan Controller from EN-Labs, but neither is good enough.
Seasonic are quality and that fsp psu is killer
I actually understood a lot of this. 🎉🎉🎉
I really wanted my hx1000i corsair power supply to be a winner at this 😢 I just like to hook it up and see the voltage and fan speeds with efficiency it's nice to see the data.
We havent reviewed the newer versions of that in recent years, I just checked back and it was 2014 for that model on the main site. We did review the Corsair SF1000L SFX-L in May however along with the RM1000e ATX 3.0 units. can see them all over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5
@@KitGuruTech I bought the RM1000e its a cracking unit. love it
Great article. Very helpful thanks kg
Glad it was helpful
Not the most exciting area of a build but someone needs to review this stuff!
They are difficult to review on video without putting people to sleep, but if you dont mind reading a bit, check out some reviews over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5
Its dull as cornflakes, but yeah I wouild agree with you
that was actually a really good video guys. thanks
appreciate the comments. thanks
Thanks Kitguru ❤
It's a tough choice as decent power supplies have gone up massively in the last few years. However a decent power supply is a good idea.
Yeah thats my annoyance. Everything has gone up in price including a decent PSU.
everything is massively expensive now. very hard to get the best of anything now.
@@canarychrome7012 So you wont be buying the Seasonic 1600W prime then lol
eh, looking over at Amazon in the US, given what your getting for the prices I am seeing, the prices are not up much and in some cases not at all.
Maybe the entries went up and since I dont look there, I am not seeing it
you guys do the best reviews
very kind of you to say thanks
Love to see more of these
ok thanks!
Good details. Learned a bit
Hello KitGuruTech how are you? I would like your input on the following, since I'm starting to think I might have screwed up.
I've currently bought the following parts to build my PC + Monitor
- Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
- Samsung SSD 990 Pro NVMe M.2
- ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 4090 GAMING OC
- Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB 6600MHz)
- ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB
- Intel Core i9-14900K
- Lian-li Fan AL VS ARGB x7
- ASUS ROG Thor Platinum 1000P II Platinum
- Corsair 5000D Airflow
- Alienware AW3423DWF 34
Before i purchased it I've looked in several websites that calculate Watt consumption and they recommended 1000W, but after reading a bit more today I'm a bit concerned it might not be enough. Since it's still on the Box and probably can still upgrade it, despite all the work is going to give, is it worth it, or this power supply will be enough?
Thank you in advance for your time and help
Ketchup and mustard cables are a must 😁
lol always 😂
nothing beats a bit of that combo in a case, i remember the days
love these reviews
Good info. Learned a few things. Some good reviews on the website too
Thanks for the comments
cult of seasonic always looking for fresh additions (we have cookies :)
In the market for a new psu. A lot of the technical stuff confuses me so feeling a bit more educated tonight. Thanks
Thanks be sure to check out the reviews on the main kitguru.net website for more information
Some good recommendations. I can actually get that fsp unit here. Might order one.
What part of the world do you live ?
Have to compliment dominic on the narration too as a few others have done in the comments, very good...
Thanks, appreciate it. Definitely helps having a high quality script written for you, I was just reading it out loud! -Dominic
Dominic has a lovely voice. like leo
Great article. Very useful
Glad it was helpful!
King of psu oem is Seasonic👑
Back when I was dumber, I managed to fry a no-name, "came with the case" PSU by upgrading to a GTX 260 without giving a thought to power-consumption. Problem was that the card was around 3 to 4 times as power-hungry as my previous GPU - around 200W IIRC, which was pretty outrageous for a mid-tier GPU at that time. I went with a totally overkill bequiet Dark Power 650W because that was the only high quality PSU in the power-range I wanted my local HW-store had in stock ... and it was a Saturday.. :) Ever since then, I've stuck with bequiet more out of habit (that 650W-PSU still exists and, for all I know, still works) , but I would never, ever again buy a no-name brand, ketchup-and-mustard PSU.
Besides that, I think there are just a few basic guidelines to follow, even if you're on a tighter budget:
Is the manufacturer reputable/known for high quality PSUs?
Does the PSU have decent/good reviews from reliable, independent sources?
How long is the manufacturer's warranty?
One reason why I've stuck with bequiet is that they offer a 10 year warranty - at least for my current Straight Power 12 they do. Which is always a good sign IMO, since it strongly implies that the manufacturer themselves trust that their product will outlast the rest of your system.
You also don't want to run your PSU at less than 20%. Idle is more common than many think. YT, desktop, etc.
Once you go platinum+, you never go back. The compact silence is so tempting. And anything below Gold in 2023 is just wrong. PSU can easily last for 10 years unlike many other parts so it's the single best investment. It doesn't run out of fashion or fps.
As for modular vs semi/non - modular is overrated. If you are into custom, resoldering is actually easier. Besides that, cable management and extensions work with both.
are you really recommending soldering rather than modular? I dont even understand your point ....
@@haremofprocessors6954 If you do custom cables, soldering is actually faster and easier. You don't have to make pins on both ends. Cut the right size and solder one end right to the PSU board. You should have some basic understanding of electricity, safety and capacitors in particular though. So there is no need for a more expensive modular PSU in the first place. The only problem - you won't find any PSU above Gold rating with semi-modular or fixed cables afaik. So you are forced into modular if you are looking for decent cool and silent PSU.
Has the advice changed much in a year? New AMD and Intel chips make a difference?
Not really no.
The seasonic vertex psu’s are good also. I have the 1000 watt one and its atx 3.0 and pcie 5.0 compliant
They are great, we reviewed the 1200w model back in March over here: bit.ly/3Q4vLa2
@@KitGuruTech thank you, might’ve saw that video when I was deciding on buying it a few months ago 🙂
Surprised the MSI MPG A1000g isnt on the list. fully modular 1000w gold and atx3.0 for under $170.
Nice new atx 3 recommendations Dominic. You should do more of these. Most of the psu stuff on TH-cam is dull and boring
Thanks !
I went mid-range = a Mars Gaming 850w Modular (full).... did I do ok or did I screw up? For double the price I could have got a Corsair... but... double the price....
Didn't know that a modular power supply meant that the cables arent attached to the power supply. Learn something new every day (almost)!
Duh!
Not everyone knows this stuff. Good to get a video up explaining some of the basics too.
Glad you picked something up then !
I just bought a new Corsair, hope its ok, never read much about it before buying ! still waiting for the RGB on power supplies to be controllable via icue lol
What model is it ?
No reference to 12VHPWR cables and how they'll be phased out. Make sure to buy a PSU with adequate PCI-E slots and cables!
Fewer fires is always a good thing lol
I think thats more a complete video on its own, maybe soon if we can fit it in.
I just got be quiet! Straight Power 12, an ATX 3.0 with 80 Plus Platinum
Happy with it ?
thats a good supply, bequiet! use some good OEM partners.
Cool review. Please don’t put chase on the floor.
Torn Between Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 850watts PSU and Seasonic Prime GX gold 1000watts PSU , almost same price here in Philippines. which should i pick,
7800x3d
and RTX 4070 (Maybe upgrade when time comes).
Thanks
Probably a silly question but, is the Seasonic Focus GX-100 White Edition the same model as the Focus GX-100 mentioned in the video. Just want to make sure I'm getting the same model you recommended but in white.
Is there any list of PSU failures or coil wine?
I am interested in these 3 and i want the most silent without any fan or coil noise
Asus Rog Strix Gold Aura 1000W
Corsair Hx1000i (2023)
FSP Hydro Ti 1000W
Very VERY informative video ,subscribed !!! thank you! i have a 1,5 year old corsair gold rm750x psu and i bought an atx msi b660 a pro along with an i5 13500 and an rtx 3060 ,Is l it ok to built this system with this corsair psu or should i buy a bigger one? it is in very good condition , will it be able to handle the gpu power spikes etc?
I don't think there's any PSU worth buying that is non modular anymore.
I'm still happy with my over 15yo 500w Chieftec PSU.
A decent power supply can last years and years.
15 years? seriously?
pretty sure they never designed any PSU, probably a high power unit inside.
Chieftec GPS-500AB A
@@basshead. Well done man, got some value out of that. You still using it in your main system or has it been relegated to a secondary system now?
Wrong. Check your facts as Seasonic uses both OEM PSU manufacturer suppliers and its own made PSUs. However, unlike Seasonic, FSP never disappoints.
Seasonic make all their own designs. We have been reviewing them for 15 years now and have been to their factories. A lot of companies use their designs.
what do you think about XPG FUSION 1600W? seems good....
Why did it take so long for modular power supplies to become a thing?
Possibly worth mentioning the Cybernetics certifications - they're perhaps a bit more informative than 80Plus these days, albeit less common.
Seasonic Focus GX-1000 ATX 3.0 this psu has 2 difrent motherboards any one knows why ?
90% of ppl here wont need anything more than a 650W psu..so here are the recommendations for 850+ psu-s...i mean come on.. also zero mentions that there are a lot of psu calculators out there if someone needs a guide... also it would have been nice to have some tipical builds like a 5600 + 6700xt a tell an egzakt value...also i dont see any mention of do i need atx 3.0 or not
Well if you would watch the video there is a bit of explanation on efficiency levels, and exactly why we have recommended some of what we have - factoring in capacitor strain, lower fan speeds, cooler running internal temps and lower noise. Also in 2023 we have actually not been sent a lot of lower spec power supplies to review, so we can not recommend power supplies we haven't received as we havent tested them in the labs. some content is over here: bit.ly/3CSYJF5. - as for more detail, yes we can do more videos on this, its already over 12 minutes and people get bored. its a tough subject to cover quickly and without putting people to sleep - which is why we don't do a lot of PSU video content on the youtube side. Sorry it was a disappointment, we will keep trying.
how do we calculate power needed with those power draw spikes from those boosting cpu and gpus? some look like they can draw quite alot more for short times then what is the normal usage?
some of the psu calculators tell me i use around 450W max and then get crashes with some midrange 550w psus, currently i run some ok 700W gold psu just fine but at some point i would like to get some upgrade and some of those gpus look like they could replace heating for my room...so i would like to figure out what i might be able to throw in that will still work fine or if i need to add extra budget for a more powerfull psu if i want to get something a bit more power hungry then the card i currently have.
That Seasonic 1600 watt unit is staggering, not even sure my UK socket can deliver 3200 watts. arent they limited to 3,000 ?
Depends on the quality of the wall socket, but yeah, 3,200 watts is pushing it.
What do you guys think of MSI Mag PSU? Im getting the 650 version
4:40 Why didn't you mention Cybenetics Lab? Their rating system is better quality and provides additional certs.
Cause 80 plus is industry standard. Has been forever.
@@boltsandbraces6261 Hardly forever, and that's certainly not a good enough reason to exclude a superior standard.
Are Nvidia still setting fire to systems with their power connectors?
Are these ATX 3.0?
i somehow wish atx 3.0 etc was explained in which case you must buy them
we can follow up with other videos on this, hard to cram it all into 12 minutes, and any longer it might prove a bit of a snorefest for most people.
thank you very much :D @@KitGuruTech
fsp hydro ptm x pro 1200w
or
corsair rm1200x shift?
Check out the main kitguru.net website - we reviewed most of them
@@KitGuruTech i decided to buy the fsp hydro ptm x pro 1200w. its better and the shift-benefit is something i can ignore.
@@darealjulz You bought well.- congrats - see our review here shrtm.nu/qkv
yeah thanks :) i already read your well written reviews :) the one of the FSP, the corsair's rm1200x shift, and the review of the Seasonic Vertex GX-1200 @@KitGuruTech
Do any PSUs come with RGB?
Why would you want that? pretty sure ive seen a few with an RGB fan in them for some reason, likely corsair.....
A rubbish power supply is a false economy can cause real headaches with system stability. The amount of times I've had to troubleshoot a build and it ended up being the power supply is many.
It should actually be the first brick in the foundation of a PC build. The first being the case obviously..
Yeah bsods. Black screens of death. Hard locks. Often the psu.
I second that. Had an orbi router that was in a constant reboot cycle. Was about to throw it in the bin when I tried changing the power brick it comes with. It booted straight away. There wasnt enough amperage coming from the power supply to power the wifi antenna (I'm guessing).
@@dreschaffhausen5693 Thats fascinating, did you just get a new one from Netgear or use a different make of power supply with it you had in the house?
Never buy a cheap power supply. I speak from experience. When it failed it took out my motherboard and processor as well. Never again.
Efficiency is so high regardless that I barely factor it into my buying and instead look for the performance indicators (ripple, load regulation, transient response) that tells u how good it is at actually doing its job being providing clean power to your components not whether it's 96% or 93% efficient lmao who cares. Doubly so seeing I'm on 230v too which means our gold is equavilent to the Americans platinum efficiency roughly seeing they're on the less effcient 115v power standard
Also unlike u Europeans tho Australia power prices aren't that bad and I have solar
Love how obsessive this is.
SFF: Go SF 750 or go home.
Simple way is to just buy the most expensive one you can afford.
Unless it sucks.
Ripple can certainly end up crashing your system.
So can nipple.
TLDR: Do not be cheap and buy a no-name brand power supply or even a cheap power supply bfrom a known brand.....The power Supply is the CORE of your system: If it can not supply the necessary power that your components demand at their PEAK, then it's no good. You should ALWAYS overestimate by at least 150w, when it comes to buying a PSU.
What power supply do you own? any recommendations?
bad video
great comment though, so thanks for saving it.
Boy that was a wasted 12 minutes
but you still left a stupid comment, so well worth it.
@@KnightRider-lq5yb troll👍how's your mom's basement? Still looks the same from the last time I was there?