One thing I would have added would be the perks you get from both that weapons perk tree, as well as the books for a particular weapon. That would help identify some more ways some weapons may be better than others. For example, the maxing out the club books, volume one through seven, will make it so you immediately regenerate all your stamina from killing a zombie. Or for knuckles, you can max out it's books to make it so you don't get blurry vision from drinking beer(which literally triples your knuckle damage because it's a brawling weapon, BTW). That would give something a bit more in depth.
Not considering the book benefits kinda negated much of the weapons. In alpha21 spears and stun batons both moved into top tier rating once you have some easy to get magazines.
Thought the same thing. Getting rid of the fact that spears can penetrate multiple enemies, clubs refill your stamina on hit etc. if we’re looking at steel weapons, we’re gonna have some skill books by then. Weapons as stat sticks is I guess something? But that’s why axes and sledges fall off. They dont get books.
Had to separate from the books due to RNG and just use base stats on an equal field. If you get all the books for one weapon and none for the others then the one with the investment will likely be better. If you account for all books and all weapons the best for each tier will be what you like the most because you will be OP by then.
@@Bear-Gaming I mean if you're playing on the easiest difficulty maybe. But looking for the most optimal option, then saying it doesn't matter because you'll be OP anyway is kinda counter intuitive, no?
Its so sad that Chainsaw is not even considered as melee weapon in zombie game, when descriptions says its "good for takign down zombies" but in reality is much worse than Axe.
One thing you didn't really go into were the books, and the benefits the melee's tree yields when starting out. I'd say clubs and spears are the best picks for anyone looking for the best all-rounder melees now. Spears get great access to mods(can naturally bleed, burn, & use bladed mods) and huge damage and ranged cleave. As well as snipers, salvage operations for chests & lucky looter, it's just as good as a tree as strength. Great for melee horde bases that funnel enemies. Clubs are the fastest CC ragdoll and huge damage increases on those enemies allowing horde thinning easier & knocking back the pesky ferals rushing you. Shotguns and miner 69r for chests are amazing. Other weapons are either too slow or don't offer as much benefits from their books/trees to be so CQC imo. I'd say spears are just slightly above clubs now with their ranged versatility & precision, which is amazing.
@@Bear-Gaming Forsure, was so dissapointed when I first started playing learning spears were terrible. Now they're top tier. Honorable mention for me would have to stun batons too. Despite lower damage cap due to lack of books, it has super high insta-kill chance with physician, and great CC too, but it requires a huge skill investment & the tree lacks a solid gun pairing for them, also gross lockpicks.
My personal melee guide: 1) Get the stun baton 2) Spec into all perks including physician level 5 3) Use weighted head + repulsor mods 4) Watch the Zs dance and fly It is definitely the funniest melee weapon as well as the most effective because it is designed for crowd control, I use it in most POIs with a scoped pistol to save my sweet 7.62 ammo for horde night.
i find that the healing from a fortifying grip mod is negligible at best so i always do the ergo grip, if it gave us rad zombie equivalent regen then maybe
@@Bear-Gaming Unless you're doing a beer+brawler build, ergonomic grip is going to be a huge increase to DPS because you have less time spent waiting on stamina or less need to balance between heavy and light attacks.
yeah, the books. which were not mentioned here. It's one of the melees with an entire book series dedicated to it along with spear and fists. completion gives that sweet full stamina on kill so you can technically finish a horde without stopping.
Fam, you didn't go over any of the skills or magazines. Many melee trees have unique perks that only affect certain weapons. And spears, batons, clubs, brawler weapons are the only melee weapons with a magazine tree. With the magazines, and with batons having access to bonus dismemberment + instakill from the doctor perk tree... Well, these three weapon classes outperform the others by quite a bit. Spears penetrate multiple enemies with their funny reach. And with penetrator, these get 100% armor penetration, stacking on top of the natural penetration. I don't have to tell you how good that is... And clubs are still solid even if I think they're a bit worse than the other two now, which is funny because they seemed like the top dog in A20. How times change. What a surprise when the two weapons having 2 trees that further buff them. (The penetrator for spears. Even though it works with other weapons to lesser degrees.) And Physician for stun batons. On top of having a magazine tree. (Tech junkie for batons, spear hunter for spears. I'd much rather be skilled in one of those tree than watch my enemies slowly bleed to death with a knife. To take loads of annoying medical debuffs with knuckles, or to end up with swings so slow they can't connect before zombies reach you with sledgehammer.
It's true that later game and with a lot of the offered perks with the others, all the melee weapons tend to become equal to some degree, the reason i didnt cover the magazines was due to how long/RNG it takes to get them. It all depends later on how you want to take the zombies down. I prefer the Stun Baton myself.
I decided to just cover base stats for comparison to due RNG for the books choice. As well as adding points into a particular attribute will not be an apple's to apples comparison. If you talk about all perks and skills being even then weapon choice later game is negligible.
I love the feel of holding a blade, but when you think about the clubs knockdown effect is pretty OP, first hit knock down, next 2-3 hit they on the ground and its finished, if you fighting a crown you not going to use a melee weapon lol
I agree with the feel of the blades and wish for a sword option. Spears are both a blade and offer good knockdown chance. They are able to handle small crowds. Anything 6 or more and a firearm is recommended.
@@Bear-Gaming yeah i wont touch spears, ive watching some gameplays with them and they feel clunky too me. Blades or clubs, i handle big crowds with clubs, knife is harder, but on a horde night depending on the set up and not sitting in a building and attack guns from a distance, clubs if they get close etc, but i believed they going to release some better books for knifes, axes etc
@@Bear-Gaming It makes a huge difference to the effectiveness of the weapon, 10% chance of instant kill plus perks to increase swing speed make it good for taking down powerful enemies.
From a mini series I did, I can confirm the Stun Baton is the best. Check it out here th-cam.com/play/PL6FiemO-arhllcoArDq4EuMRffOUV_YCH.html&si=qUs7lRIfUYvcRqbF
as someone who has hundreds of hours in-game, Ive tried almost all classes. Most of the classes aren't that great late game, with sledge and clubs being among the worst. I would really never use the axe bc of the stamina usage to low not too high dps, but thats just a preference. The stun baton build is by far the best in my experience for all game stage, but its hard for at least the first couple blood moons bc the baton isnt a great horde weapon. With maxed out perks and a rad, ergo, and repulsor mods on it, It's easily the best horde weapon in the game, and its best when powere hits are used. the next best would probably be machete/blades, but theyre better for quests and looting rather than hordes, whereas the stun baton has more versatility.
How weird that while they don't win in any single category, clubs are the kings of melee weapons and no other melee weapon even comes close to their power
Yeah, because the findings are very superficial. No offence to video maker but sledgehammer having most damage means nothing if it takes way more dmg/stamina cost. On that note, while knuckles have the best dmg/stamina, they lack stagger/knockback and range which makes them impractical at the highest difficulty. This is why clubs are the best because overall, they have the good damage per stamina and good range.
I outlined the best statically, as far as actual uses clubs are a jack of all traders master of none type of weapon, at the end of the day its always personal preference.
@@Bear-Gaming This isn't a jack of all traits, master of none type scenario because the melee weapon only has one job, to do damage effectively. I personally prefer mastery over jack of all trades but we aren't talking about a healer who can also do damage. In this case, we have to look at the overall capabilities of the weapon. 1. Damage / Stamina (DPS is limited by stamina) 2. Range 3. Stagger/Knockback The sledgehammer and knuckles are laid back by being worst in at least one category. Club is the best because while it doesn't excel in one category, it does great on all categories which gives it the highest score if we value each of these categories equally.
Spears are nearly identical in knockdown down, with better reach, the 30 stanima on kill and faster attacks on attributes and skill books. I tried to outline the strengths of each and list the best in regards to stats. Depending on what you invest into and what your playstyle is the best overall will vary.
say i build a kill tunnel that i need to clear the horde as fast as possible before the next batch of zeds come, as in i must stand my ground and kill quickly, as well as kill many, does that mean i should be using a sledge?
For a static position in a tunnel with zombies lined up, the spear is tour best bet. Matched with the penetrator perk and all spear skill books you can hit 2 or more zombies and each kill fills the stamina bar. High level spears can do some real damage with head shots.
Nice breakdown. The melee weapons needs to be rebalanced as all melee types used to be about equal when you got up to purple. The stun baton will let you down - you'll get a rad boss-type stunned and then it'll take 6-8 hits sometimes to kill it. It'll do that on a blood moon horde and you can't keep up with it. Good for short periods of time though.
Thanks. I feel like they are focused on clubs, blades, and spears this alpha. There is unused code that indicates a next level plasma Baton in the works that I can't wait to see.
@@Bear-Gaming honestly stun batons are still really good for hordes, especially if you have an extra person using a bow or rifle along side you. the knockback with the repulsor mod doesnt allow them to hit your base for more than a second while you use power attacks and just about every other attack you get 20 stamina due to a kill so you can constantly attack. theyre the best horde weapon in the game if you have the perks and the easily attainable repulsor mod
agreed. I could at least see an argument for most things he said, but once it gets to late game his view on the necessity of brace mods just is impractical and could be replaced by something that increases dps/gives another status effect which could save your life many times in a high tier POI or horde, and even later early game the stuff for repair is super common and easy to make. Like repair kits are one iron and 1 duct tape. If you have at least 1 dew collector, kill 2 chickens a day, and dont throw away your cloth, you can make like 3 a day, which is more than you would ever need
The brace adds a bit of damage with increased durability. You are correct these are minor improvements but in late game your attributes are more important.
Not gunna lie, every single weapon seems to do roughly about the same dps. Around 55 dmg with 50 attacks per minute. Stamina, durability and special seem to be the needed factors. Anyone know of this is still accurate?
Stanima and special features are the main differences. In the end game it is really personal preference, except for the Stun Baton and Physician. That combo is strong
The Weighted head mod does work but I felt the reduced degradation from the diamond tip blade and tempered blade mods were more important as it requires several uses to take down a zombie and the knuckles already have a higher chance for knockdowns.
Knuckles + Beer is kind of a broken combination Beer gives you 40% Stamina Regen, 300% Brawling Damage and immunity to stun If you combine this with max heavy armor and max pain tolerance, you can pretty much just run outside during horde night and punch everything with very little injury 😂
I have not made an armor guide yet as 1.0 in not had a stabled release so changes are possible, once it goes stable I will start releasing more guide video.
The baseball bat is between the wooden club and the steel club. Its middle of the road in terms of raw stats, but if you can get the right skill books and invest in the Pummel Pete attribute then it can be a powerful tool.
The hunting knife has more durability and faster attack speed so more total damage output and is the best Tier 2 but the machete has more damage per hit, better mods available, and add glancing blows. I would run a quality 6 hunting until a quality 6 machete could replace it.
Personal taste but I use power attack headshots by default and I find it easier to pull off those attacks with a hunting knife compared to the machete. The animation for the knife also seems to be faster than for the hunting knife than the machete but I've never really tested that conclusively. Machete would be a better choice on a horde night though if you're fighting behind a barricade and can't pull off head shots against a swarm.
They are different use cases. 1on1,sneak attacks,aiming straight down from elevated position, the hunting knife is better, and good for fighting zombies through broken doors or windows without breaking them further. Where the machete excels, is open field multi zombie combat, when combined with high mobility and parkour. You can run by a pack or jump over them, hit and run style, and dismember multiple heads or limbs at once, as well as set a pack on fire to stack with the bleeding.
@@Bear-Gaming stun baton does literally no dmg, steel knuckles does far more, a little shock doesnt make stun baton better but to each their own i guess
S Tier: Clubs are still king. They deal good amounts of damage with a decent hit rate. And they got books which allow you completely smash zombies without ever worrying about stamina by using the strong attack. A Tier: Spears are great in A21. Best range, also books and stamina regen from kills. B Tier: Sledgehammers are very clunky and drain alot of stamina. Missing with them is just way too painfull. And no books. But they can crush skulls like none other. C Tier: Knifes are decent for being sneaky. Also little stamina cost. But they lack both stopping power against multiple zombies and books. Meme Tier: Knuckles. They got books and beer going for them which can be really funny on easy settings. But they re nothing for challenging settings. You will get hit alot when you use them and in A21 you just recieve way too many critical hits. Also meme Tier: The stun baton. If you like smashing zombies around forever until they die, go for it.
Disagree with stun baton.Stun Baton is S Tier for me, I dont even use it but my girlfriend does when she plays and she always one hits or two most zombies.
This was definitely some good info! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
Thanks, glad you found the info useful.
Thanks for spending the effort documenting the damages of weapons in various factors
You're welcome. I'm glad you found value in it.
One thing I would have added would be the perks you get from both that weapons perk tree, as well as the books for a particular weapon. That would help identify some more ways some weapons may be better than others. For example, the maxing out the club books, volume one through seven, will make it so you immediately regenerate all your stamina from killing a zombie. Or for knuckles, you can max out it's books to make it so you don't get blurry vision from drinking beer(which literally triples your knuckle damage because it's a brawling weapon, BTW). That would give something a bit more in depth.
It comes down mostly to DPS in the end game. With everything maxed the stun Baton seems to be the best overall, especially if you have the nerd candy.
Eagerly awaiting for your take on Ranged Weapons!
Currently working on how to level up fast then will add the Ranged weapons guide to the to do list. Thanks for the suggestion.
incorrect. the torch is the best weapon in the game
Burning shaft mod goes brrrrrrrr
Umm... You're factually incorrec.t Nailgun does the same amount of damage but it's ranged and therefore better.
@@d4cto nah the Stone lure all the enemies to your traps
Nailgun was good in 2015 when you have a lot of fun instead of character builds
@@joaocarlosii2188i aint building traps imma just whack them with the rock
@@tewkie7955 bruh imagine they add trowing knifes
Not considering the book benefits kinda negated much of the weapons.
In alpha21 spears and stun batons both moved into top tier rating once you have some easy to get magazines.
Late game, the superiority of one weapon over the others is minimal. But it depends on what magazines you get and when.
Thought the same thing. Getting rid of the fact that spears can penetrate multiple enemies, clubs refill your stamina on hit etc. if we’re looking at steel weapons, we’re gonna have some skill books by then. Weapons as stat sticks is I guess something? But that’s why axes and sledges fall off. They dont get books.
Had to separate from the books due to RNG and just use base stats on an equal field. If you get all the books for one weapon and none for the others then the one with the investment will likely be better. If you account for all books and all weapons the best for each tier will be what you like the most because you will be OP by then.
@@Bear-Gaming I mean if you're playing on the easiest difficulty maybe. But looking for the most optimal option, then saying it doesn't matter because you'll be OP anyway is kinda counter intuitive, no?
End game has yet to be balanced IMO. The goal is to help people decide early/mid on a weapon to use to give the most bang for their buck.
Was a great watch bro brilliant info
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
Its so sad that Chainsaw is not even considered as melee weapon in zombie game, when descriptions says its "good for takign down zombies" but in reality is much worse than Axe.
Ash would be so sad.
One thing you didn't really go into were the books, and the benefits the melee's tree yields when starting out. I'd say clubs and spears are the best picks for anyone looking for the best all-rounder melees now.
Spears get great access to mods(can naturally bleed, burn, & use bladed mods) and huge damage and ranged cleave. As well as snipers, salvage operations for chests & lucky looter, it's just as good as a tree as strength. Great for melee horde bases that funnel enemies.
Clubs are the fastest CC ragdoll and huge damage increases on those enemies allowing horde thinning easier & knocking back the pesky ferals rushing you. Shotguns and miner 69r for chests are amazing. Other weapons are either too slow or don't offer as much benefits from their books/trees to be so CQC imo.
I'd say spears are just slightly above clubs now with their ranged versatility & precision, which is amazing.
Spear definitely got buffed in this alpha, which was necessary because we can no longer throw them.
@@Bear-Gaming Forsure, was so dissapointed when I first started playing learning spears were terrible. Now they're top tier.
Honorable mention for me would have to stun batons too. Despite lower damage cap due to lack of books, it has super high insta-kill chance with physician, and great CC too, but it requires a huge skill investment & the tree lacks a solid gun pairing for them, also gross lockpicks.
My personal melee guide:
1) Get the stun baton
2) Spec into all perks including physician level 5
3) Use weighted head + repulsor mods
4) Watch the Zs dance and fly
It is definitely the funniest melee weapon as well as the most effective because it is designed for crowd control, I use it in most POIs with a scoped pistol to save my sweet 7.62 ammo for horde night.
Solid loadout. 👍
literally same except I often bring my shotgun into higher tier POIs as well for a super high-dps "OH S***" gun lmao
i find that the healing from a fortifying grip mod is negligible at best so i always do the ergo grip, if it gave us rad zombie equivalent regen then maybe
The boost in damage that any mod adds is the main reason for it.
@@Bear-Gaming Unless you're doing a beer+brawler build, ergonomic grip is going to be a huge increase to DPS because you have less time spent waiting on stamina or less need to balance between heavy and light attacks.
Pair the steel knuckles with beer and moonshine and u got urself an undying wolverine.
Just hit the one in the middle
Idk but there’s something sweet about the clubs that cant be compared to any other weapon
Those were my favorite in the past
yeah, the books. which were not mentioned here. It's one of the melees with an entire book series dedicated to it along with spear and fists.
completion gives that sweet full stamina on kill so you can technically finish a horde without stopping.
With most melee the perks you can get also grant 30 stamina per kill
Clubs don't have any weaknesses, which is why they are the best. Every other melee weapon has 1 obvious weakness
damn.
well said cat.
well said.
Fam, you didn't go over any of the skills or magazines. Many melee trees have unique perks that only affect certain weapons. And spears, batons, clubs, brawler weapons are the only melee weapons with a magazine tree.
With the magazines, and with batons having access to bonus dismemberment + instakill from the doctor perk tree... Well, these three weapon classes outperform the others by quite a bit.
Spears penetrate multiple enemies with their funny reach. And with penetrator, these get 100% armor penetration, stacking on top of the natural penetration. I don't have to tell you how good that is...
And clubs are still solid even if I think they're a bit worse than the other two now, which is funny because they seemed like the top dog in A20. How times change.
What a surprise when the two weapons having 2 trees that further buff them. (The penetrator for spears. Even though it works with other weapons to lesser degrees.) And Physician for stun batons. On top of having a magazine tree. (Tech junkie for batons, spear hunter for spears.
I'd much rather be skilled in one of those tree than watch my enemies slowly bleed to death with a knife. To take loads of annoying medical debuffs with knuckles, or to end up with swings so slow they can't connect before zombies reach you with sledgehammer.
It's true that later game and with a lot of the offered perks with the others, all the melee weapons tend to become equal to some degree, the reason i didnt cover the magazines was due to how long/RNG it takes to get them. It all depends later on how you want to take the zombies down. I prefer the Stun Baton myself.
I decided to just cover base stats for comparison to due RNG for the books choice. As well as adding points into a particular attribute will not be an apple's to apples comparison. If you talk about all perks and skills being even then weapon choice later game is negligible.
Nice video - Maybe include the food buffs in the next one,
Was thinking about a food, drink, candy guide as well. Glad you enjoyed the video.
you killing all the dannies. i love this video
Glad you enjoyed it
I love the feel of holding a blade, but when you think about the clubs knockdown effect is pretty OP, first hit knock down, next 2-3 hit they on the ground and its finished, if you fighting a crown you not going to use a melee weapon lol
I agree with the feel of the blades and wish for a sword option. Spears are both a blade and offer good knockdown chance. They are able to handle small crowds. Anything 6 or more and a firearm is recommended.
@@Bear-Gaming yeah i wont touch spears, ive watching some gameplays with them and they feel clunky too me. Blades or clubs, i handle big crowds with clubs, knife is harder, but on a horde night depending on the set up and not sitting in a building and attack guns from a distance, clubs if they get close etc, but i believed they going to release some better books for knifes, axes etc
How does the machete stack up? I always used it because it's the closest thing to an actual sword in the game without mods.
It is a bit lacking in reach and it doesn't always hit the head before other parts but it's good for sneak and high dismemberment chance.
Damn that stun baton in the thumbnail haha
Thanks
I think you forgot the eutanasia hability, its on medic. It have 10% to 1 shot with the electrical baton
For the melee weapons I did not cover the skills or attributes. In my other guides I did.
@@Bear-Gaming no problem, i think it's a fun fact
@@Bear-Gaming It makes a huge difference to the effectiveness of the weapon, 10% chance of instant kill plus perks to increase swing speed make it good for taking down powerful enemies.
From a mini series I did, I can confirm the Stun Baton is the best. Check it out here th-cam.com/play/PL6FiemO-arhllcoArDq4EuMRffOUV_YCH.html&si=qUs7lRIfUYvcRqbF
Thanks!
Happy to help.
as someone who has hundreds of hours in-game, Ive tried almost all classes. Most of the classes aren't that great late game, with sledge and clubs being among the worst. I would really never use the axe bc of the stamina usage to low not too high dps, but thats just a preference. The stun baton build is by far the best in my experience for all game stage, but its hard for at least the first couple blood moons bc the baton isnt a great horde weapon. With maxed out perks and a rad, ergo, and repulsor mods on it, It's easily the best horde weapon in the game, and its best when powere hits are used. the next best would probably be machete/blades, but theyre better for quests and looting rather than hordes, whereas the stun baton has more versatility.
Agree with your assessment, I have even tested the Stun Baton vs late game horde to confirm its the best.
i cant put both diamond tip blade + tempered blade on my steel knuckles any other recomendation?
Diamond tip would be better, so replace the Tempered blade with Serrated Blade mod.
How weird that while they don't win in any single category, clubs are the kings of melee weapons and no other melee weapon even comes close to their power
Stun Baton ! Zombie go zap
Yeah, because the findings are very superficial. No offence to video maker but sledgehammer having most damage means nothing if it takes way more dmg/stamina cost. On that note, while knuckles have the best dmg/stamina, they lack stagger/knockback and range which makes them impractical at the highest difficulty.
This is why clubs are the best because overall, they have the good damage per stamina and good range.
I outlined the best statically, as far as actual uses clubs are a jack of all traders master of none type of weapon, at the end of the day its always personal preference.
@@Bear-Gaming This isn't a jack of all traits, master of none type scenario because the melee weapon only has one job, to do damage effectively. I personally prefer mastery over jack of all trades but we aren't talking about a healer who can also do damage.
In this case, we have to look at the overall capabilities of the weapon.
1. Damage / Stamina (DPS is limited by stamina)
2. Range
3. Stagger/Knockback
The sledgehammer and knuckles are laid back by being worst in at least one category. Club is the best because while it doesn't excel in one category, it does great on all categories which gives it the highest score if we value each of these categories equally.
Spears are nearly identical in knockdown down, with better reach, the 30 stanima on kill and faster attacks on attributes and skill books. I tried to outline the strengths of each and list the best in regards to stats. Depending on what you invest into and what your playstyle is the best overall will vary.
I may be wrong but I think spears pierce throw the first zombie by default, hitting 2 if they stand behind one another
They do not hit another zombie until Spear Hunter Volume 6 is read. They default ignore armor.
They should make a Combat Axe. Something like that would be nice.
I would settle for just being able to use the Axes as a weapon. Why not allow them to benefit from the blade skills.
@@Bear-Gaming That would also make sense, and be an easy change to make.
2024, any changes to the results?
Not as of yet, once Alpha 22 releases I will make an updated version. Thanks for the comment 👍
yeah im sorry but steel knuckles and a brawler build is just *chefs kiss*
I respect the build, very fun.
say i build a kill tunnel that i need to clear the horde as fast as possible before the next batch of zeds come, as in i must stand my ground and kill quickly, as well as kill many, does that mean i should be using a sledge?
For a static position in a tunnel with zombies lined up, the spear is tour best bet. Matched with the penetrator perk and all spear skill books you can hit 2 or more zombies and each kill fills the stamina bar. High level spears can do some real damage with head shots.
Nice breakdown. The melee weapons needs to be rebalanced as all melee types used to be about equal when you got up to purple.
The stun baton will let you down - you'll get a rad boss-type stunned and then it'll take 6-8 hits sometimes to kill it. It'll do that on a blood moon horde and you can't keep up with it. Good for short periods of time though.
Thanks. I feel like they are focused on clubs, blades, and spears this alpha. There is unused code that indicates a next level plasma Baton in the works that I can't wait to see.
@@Bear-Gaming honestly stun batons are still really good for hordes, especially if you have an extra person using a bow or rifle along side you. the knockback with the repulsor mod doesnt allow them to hit your base for more than a second while you use power attacks and just about every other attack you get 20 stamina due to a kill so you can constantly attack. theyre the best horde weapon in the game if you have the perks and the easily attainable repulsor mod
Stun Baton is the best melee for Blood moon once you have the requisite attributes and mods. I have confirmed this in a few of my videos.
Can you do a Guide like this for Firearms and Turrets please?
Working on it now, not sure when it will be done. Thanks for the comment.
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durability mods dont really mean anything in late game. and I never run out of stamina with clubs due to books
agreed. I could at least see an argument for most things he said, but once it gets to late game his view on the necessity of brace mods just is impractical and could be replaced by something that increases dps/gives another status effect which could save your life many times in a high tier POI or horde, and even later early game the stuff for repair is super common and easy to make. Like repair kits are one iron and 1 duct tape. If you have at least 1 dew collector, kill 2 chickens a day, and dont throw away your cloth, you can make like 3 a day, which is more than you would ever need
The brace adds a bit of damage with increased durability. You are correct these are minor improvements but in late game your attributes are more important.
Not gunna lie, every single weapon seems to do roughly about the same dps. Around 55 dmg with 50 attacks per minute. Stamina, durability and special seem to be the needed factors. Anyone know of this is still accurate?
Stanima and special features are the main differences. In the end game it is really personal preference, except for the Stun Baton and Physician. That combo is strong
Does the weighted head mod not work for steel knuckles anymore?
The Weighted head mod does work but I felt the reduced degradation from the diamond tip blade and tempered blade mods were more important as it requires several uses to take down a zombie and the knuckles already have a higher chance for knockdowns.
Knuckles + Beer is kind of a broken combination
Beer gives you 40% Stamina Regen, 300% Brawling Damage and immunity to stun
If you combine this with max heavy armor and max pain tolerance, you can pretty much just run outside during horde night and punch everything with very little injury 😂
Just remember to find the book to negate the blurry vision. I have a video where I punch a bear to death with just fists and some boosts.
@@Bear-Gaming Oh yeah, and if you get the iron gut perks, your buffs will last 50% longer
you can go crazy with that 😂
Until you get radiated bikers, then they slap you down with every debuff in the game.
@@loglog7just like in real life
@@loglog7 nah, radiated bikers dont do that much, i wear no armor so i know
WHAT armor to use ?
I have not made an armor guide yet as 1.0 in not had a stabled release so changes are possible, once it goes stable I will start releasing more guide video.
Great video. Could you please tell us what about the baseball bat? I am using it and it is fast and deadly
The baseball bat is between the wooden club and the steel club. Its middle of the road in terms of raw stats, but if you can get the right skill books and invest in the Pummel Pete attribute then it can be a powerful tool.
sooo, the hunting knife is better than machete?
The hunting knife has more durability and faster attack speed so more total damage output and is the best Tier 2 but the machete has more damage per hit, better mods available, and add glancing blows. I would run a quality 6 hunting until a quality 6 machete could replace it.
Personal taste but I use power attack headshots by default and I find it easier to pull off those attacks with a hunting knife compared to the machete. The animation for the knife also seems to be faster than for the hunting knife than the machete but I've never really tested that conclusively. Machete would be a better choice on a horde night though if you're fighting behind a barricade and can't pull off head shots against a swarm.
100% agree. I always have an issue landing headshots with the machete.
They are different use cases. 1on1,sneak attacks,aiming straight down from elevated position, the hunting knife is better, and good for fighting zombies through broken doors or windows without breaking them further. Where the machete excels, is open field multi zombie combat, when combined with high mobility and parkour. You can run by a pack or jump over them, hit and run style, and dismember multiple heads or limbs at once, as well as set a pack on fire to stack with the bleeding.
This is the way.
u forgot to add in buffs, so knuckles are the best
From the small practical testing series I did, the Stun Baton is the best. But the discussion continues
@@Bear-Gaming stun baton does literally no dmg, steel knuckles does far more, a little shock doesnt make stun baton better but to each their own i guess
@sauronikov9254 idk what game you play but batons are op af
@@Cyb3rRustno
S Tier: Clubs are still king. They deal good amounts of damage with a decent hit rate. And they got books which allow you completely smash zombies without ever worrying about stamina by using the strong attack.
A Tier: Spears are great in A21. Best range, also books and stamina regen from kills.
B Tier: Sledgehammers are very clunky and drain alot of stamina. Missing with them is just way too painfull. And no books. But they can crush skulls like none other.
C Tier: Knifes are decent for being sneaky. Also little stamina cost. But they lack both stopping power against multiple zombies and books.
Meme Tier: Knuckles. They got books and beer going for them which can be really funny on easy settings. But they re nothing for challenging settings. You will get hit alot when you use them and in A21 you just recieve way too many critical hits.
Also meme Tier: The stun baton. If you like smashing zombies around forever until they die, go for it.
Compelling arguments
Disagree with stun baton.Stun Baton is S Tier for me, I dont even use it but my girlfriend does when she plays and she always one hits or two most zombies.
100% agree, my latest blood moon horde experiment series proves it. Stun Baton is best.