“There were no signs” continues to list signs…. “We rarely fought”…. We went to counseling because of fighting “He’s my best friend”…. “We didn’t communicate on a deeper level” Delulu
This. She said she didn’t know until he said it on camera but then turns around and said she called her dad and said “well he did it” and that she had intuition and knew. Which one was it? Shes always talked in circles
I truly believe Carl didn't stand up for Lindsay in the house during those heated moments with the rest of the cast because he subconsciously knew what they were saying was true and he did not know how to handle the situation. Let's not forget he ended things with her years ago for similar behavior patterns and made plenty of comments back then that he could not handle her intensity. I think he ended it because all of those red flags came to the forefront. You cannot stay in the honeymoon phase forever and from what I saw in some of the episodes from last season, he was being abused and she demanded way too much from him.
Watching this two episodes into the new season and Lindsey confirms that she was the problem. She deflected the entire time and took no ownership whatsoever. Blindsided? Wow.
Who else is reconsidering this whole interview after last week’s episode? Because her version of “ going off” is a bit irrational. And Carl has been quiet because he doesn’t have to defend himself.
Yeah she definitely likes to paint a “pretty picture” always when she relays her side of. story. Honestly, everybody would like her better if she was just authentic about her flaws. It’s not about having them, it’s just about acknowledging and being self aware and then maybe working on them. It’s hard to connect when she really is so smart, yet lacks self awareness or is just in denial due to ego and keeping a facade. She’s on a reality show .. we see who she is lol idk the point. She was possibly blindsided to the timing and calling off the wedding, but in general she can’t be shocked he wasn’t into it anymore.. She definitely needs to reword that. Also she gaslights his anger and says “popped off” and things like that when he is in no way doing that..
I knew from the moment they got engaged that he would break her heart. He’s the type who runs away from his problems instead of fixing them. Carl has some growing up to do. I gotta say I’m super excited for the new season.
That's an interesting take considering he faced his own addiction issues and has been sober for a few years now. But then again, Lindsay is a problem, so it's good hes run from her lol
Lindsey would be an absolute nightmare to be married to. She’s bossy, lies, banged a million guys and brags about it and hooks-up with random dudes on camera. Definitely not “marriage material” in most guys eyes. She’s even a bad friend.
it's not a new take. From the beginning, carl had a severe inferiority complex and was a terrible communicator. What respect can he possibly give lindsay if he can't give himself any?@@sumchick8701
I knew they also would never get married, but not because he would break her heart. Lindsey has destroyed every relationship. She’s been in because she could never be wrong, never takes responsibility, drinks too much, and then starts ridiculous fights. She’s done it in every relationship since she’s been on summer house, and I’m willing to bet she tanked others before that as well.
I wonder how ya’ll feel about this episode now since clearly you were lied to and also manipulated into believing her version of events. I think this is why in the future, it would be best to watch the season, and then have interviews like this.
Lindsey Hubbard takes no accountability. She can never be wrong. She drinks too much and then starts fights. She’s done it in every relationship she’s been in since she’s been on the summer house program and I’m willing to bet she did it with relationships prior to that. That’s why I knew she would ruin this relationship and she and Carl would not get married. Carl dodged a bullet.
In the long run, he did her a favor. A recovering addict in active counseling has a LOT to figure out. A big portion of this is learning to set boundaries. I bet this is what he was struggling with before he ended it. Of course, he did it in the WORST way possible which tells me he is still on the struggle bus big time. He’s likely got a lot more to work through before any further life changing decisions. And to Lindsay - be thankful. If he could do this to you in such a public way, he’s likely capable of a lot worse.
I know we only see very small snippets of their lives and personalities etc- however from what we have seen from Carl over the years, is very little regard for anyone’s feelings except his own. Especially when it comes to women. He has never seemed to truly care about any woman he’s dated or hooked up with feelings, he’s always been very selfish & has knowingly hurt women & showed zero care. Just bc you’re not romantically into someone anymore ( not talking about Lindsey specifically just in general any woman he dated or slept with) doesn’t mean you can’t be a decent human being and have empathy, especially when that woman cares or has feelings for you. He is very stunted emotionally & mentally which is common w addicts unfortunately
As a fellow Torontonian, it was so amazing seeing you both as special guests at the CHD show (Natalie is easily one of the coolest people) and thanks so much for bashing Air Canada because all our airlines here need to be humbled to say the least lmfao....
I have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with themfrom Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm not Canadian nor American)
As a Canadian who has flown a ton air Canada, west jet…but also American Airlines, United and Emerates. The Canadian airlines are easily middle of the pack. US airlines are laughable! And then there is Emerates that is wonderful!!!
Thank you for being transparent about Air Canada. There are other airlines in America with “customer service” reps who act the same way! It’s so disgraceful. I really hope it goes viral and there will be backlash. That’s the only way anything will change.
Nick is completely right about Air Canada - no competition. Having to fly them for work is the worst. Ditto on people who love controlling you instead of servicing you. If you go up the chain to complain about them you’ll find those people at every level even at the top!
How does Carl not express the way he feels during couples therapy! This all could have been avoided if he told you this sooner so you guys could worked on your relationship!
He probably did and she refused to hear it. She seems incredibly hard to talk to. Shes always the common factor in fights. If you’re fighting with everyone, you’re the issue.
So funny, when nick was grunting carrying Tom I was laughing so hard. And then the way jojo throws Sandoval over her shoulder and carries him 😂 that was definitely not on my bingo card this year.
That was awesome. Nick talked so much sh!t about Tom and then has to carry him to the point where he’s about to collapse. Might have been some karma built into that moment.
And all the men she’s ever been with! Lol. I don’t blame any of them. She can lose her shit in a psychotic way and has shown that on national television. Imagine what she won’t show!! Scary!!!
I love Lindsay. To me, she feels like the most honest and real person in all of reality television. She's so brutally honest! I feel for her, but all happens for the best!!!
It's clear that Carl lacks emotional maturity. My respect for Lindsay has grown exponentially after watching this interview. I wish her the best in her life going forward.
As a fellow Canadian, everyone I know, hates Air Canada. My husband and I won't ever use them. We went to a wedding in Spain last year and we flew WestJet and my friends flew Air Canada... Air Canada kept my friends on the tarmac for over an hour and then just cancelled their flight completely. This is just one story out of hundreds of their horrendous customer service. So sorry you had to deal with that pregnant Nat! As someone who is also 5 months postpartum, and remembers how emotional and uncomfortable you are pregnant, I can't imagine how this must have felt.
Hate Air Canada, i haven't flown them in over 15 years. Absolute worst airline I've ever flown in my life, their customer service is the worst of the worst.
First podcast to which I have ever listened and it was great. Lindsay was articulate, sharp and had a grip on her emotions. She clearly described her plans, hopes and fears, shared some very personal issues. BTW, I listened without watching the video, because I did not want to be distracted. If you are not Team Lindsay after listening, you were not listening.
I’m not regular on her show, but what she says doesn’t really add up. She starts on how blind sided she was and she had zero clue, but then talk about how weird he was during filming and how he kept popping off and he changed before the wedding. Umm like wasn’t that a clues that things were off. I understand she could have ignored the clues but it seems like there was warning signs.
I think watching Lindsey drunk and starting fights with him showed me all I needed to see. Sorry! Drinking and a newly sober person do not make a good match. She did nothing but brow beat him when she was drunk. Run Carl!
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You might want to have her back on to clear up some stuff😂
Now do we get to hear the other side of the story? She doesn’t seem to be the easiest person to live with if we see how she’s been with all her other boyfriends on the show. I’m sure there’s more to his side of the story than just what she has to say. She seems to be a very high maintenance person and desperate to be married to anyone. Be happy it happened before you were married. Guarantee she wasn’t perfect!
Correct! To be honest, when they got engaged I kind of felt like she said yes because she didn’t care who was giving the ring, just that I was on her hand.
I don’t see him interviewing with anyone and being completely honest. He’s so guarded whenever he talks. I have nothing against him either. There’s two sides to everything. It’s good to hear her side.
I’m a flight attendant and a gate agent (while i was in uniform) did this exact thing to me… they can help you but they just don’t want to.. it’s so sad, sorry ya’ll had to go through this!!
Fast forward to the season airing and it shows Lindsay just acting like Lindsay… getting wasted drunk and being combative AF. And basically contradicting everything she said in this interview.
Dang mixed feelings on this one. First off - I'm siding with Lindsay on this one, because what Carl did was impulsive, selfish, and humiliating. (He was acting out of his addicted self). But I'm also amazed how fast she moved forward and past her feelings for him. That's an almost decade-long friendship she is grieving on top of her broken engagement. To be fine after 2 months (and completely over it) doesn't feel authentic to me. Also, I don't hear a lot of ownership for her reactivity or her part in the rupture. It takes two to tango, especially in trauma-bonded relationships. Dr. John Gottman said there's almost fool-proof signs that a couple won't last, and its called the 4 Deadly Horsemen of the Apocalypse. I see Lindsay's contempt, and Carl's is stonewalling and defensiveness.
I dont believe she's completely over it. I think she meant that she's in a better place with herself to move on. She got all her emotions out and grieved during those weeks, so she's better now. Then she kept herself busy to keep her mind off things.
I feel like at a certain age and point in time, after god knows how many heartbreaks, disappointments and so on, you get to a point where moving forward and on happens faster. You don’t forget it and put it in the past, but you you certainly do move forward easier and don’t break down as often
I think she is in the anger stage of grieving. I don't think she necessarily moved past it easily but when someone you love does something so humiliating and publicaly...anger can overpower other emotions or you can just shut down completely. I am a high investment person. Meaning it may take time to earn my trust or love but once I let you in and investment it is everything I have- a high investment. Once that is betrayed or broken I detach completely. Shut down. And it's a subtle inner anger. Then I Want nothing to do with that person and can move on. It's not healthy I'm sure and it's a struggle. Hopefully this makes sense. No matter what though, I wish both Linds and Carl healing. An awful situation no matter who's side you are on. I personally am glad to see her moving forward. Love Lindsey's strength.
I'm here to say not even 2 episodes and she's activated Lindsay is truly a problem seeing how she twists stories I totally get y he wanted the cameras present
Everything activates Lindsay. So many girls have daddy issues but I’m curious if her narcissism stems from overcompensating because of her mom’s absence in her life. She’s very independent and successful as far as career goes but she doesn’t seem to value her body and I don’t think she’s as confident as she likes to pretend. So desperate to be loved. Her and Danielle have that in common with men and they then wonder why they can’t keep a man.
She tried to date down and that didn’t work out so well for her. Now it’s time to shine and find that king that supports and helps her thrive! Love Lindsay, she’s a a total package ❤❤❤
Total package? More like total nightmare with a huge body count. Most the type of guys she would interested in marrying, would never want to marry her with all that masculine and controlling energy.
She’s waaaay too needy for all the men she’s dated. She wants to marry anyone. We’ve seen how she acts towards her boyfriends in the show. Imagine what she won’t show on tv! She seems very into what she needs and no one else.
About Ariana and Tom... at this point it's the best breakup ever! Made them both tons of money, blew up VPR to more than it's ever been and made Ariana mega famous! That's the best way I guess to end a bad relationship!
The breakup has benefited Ariana way more than Tom though. Even the other women on the show like Scheana, Lala and Katie have benefited more than Tom. And they still want him to not talk, only apologize for the rest of his life.
@@seven92023Funny thing, I have no idea who any of these women are that you are talking about. The only one of those names that I am familiar with is Tom!!!
She is delusional. I think she is super controlling and bossy. As soon as he wasn’t groveling to her- she threw tantrums. And really? Couples in therapy within a year? Idk. Doesn’t sound like best friends to me.
It speaks volumes to the type of friend that Danielle is especially how brutal Lindsay treated her (along with her other “friends”) during last season. And for Lindsay to claim she’s an “open book” is quite humorous, considering she portrayed a “perfect relationship” with Carl, after we saw how brutal & emasculating she was toward him at night when they were in bed together after the lights went down, while she was a cruel toxic drunk, calling him brutal, evil names for no valid reason. It was a toxic relationship from the start, and quite honestly, he dodged a bullet with her. I hope she continues her therapy, and works thru her anger issues. Best of luck to both of them!
Yes! Of course she won’t talk about her part in the whole thing. She’s out for herself. She’s perfect of course. That’s why all the men she’s been with run! 🏃♂️
Incredibly toxic for someone in active recovery to be around someone like that. Clearly no regard for how her behavior, while also being under the influence, could trigger Carl & put his sobriety in jeopardy.
Carl's lack of relationships is just as concerning as Lindsey's serial monogamist approach to relationships; they can both benefit from being single and going to therapy to individually work out their issues
Yes! She jumps from man to man to man so she can get married. She clearly is not as great as she makes herself out to be when we see every man has run! Run….run far away!!
Does anyone not find it interesting that Lindsay has ZERO accountability? It’s always everyone else’s problem, everyone else is always the enemy. I do not believe for one second Carl said he didn’t want her to have an opinion. The fact she sat with other alpha females to dissect and pick apart Carl, instead of look objectively and consider her role, speaks volumes. I’m curious if these women have successful relationships. Lindsay has just continued to bash Carl. The way I’ve heard him speak about it is very grounded and calm, and he isn’t doing a smear campaign. If she was a man going on and saying all of this people would think she was a jerk. Why is she getting away with this as a woman?
He did his smear campaign just in a different way. Calling production to break up with her on camera is the most vile thing he could have done. It’s gross.
YES!! Look at her history. It’s clear she’s a LOT to handle!! She seems to a put herself first most of the time. If he needed a cheerleader than that’s your job as the significant other. She wants him to be there for her but can’t do the same. She is so desperate for anyone to marry her and that’s why she ends up with the wrong men for her every single time. Your history speaks lady. You’re not fooling all of us at least!
1:05:57 the fact Lindsey puts %110 in loving her partner and wanting it in return is bc she is a woman in search of unconditional love her mother never gave her, and it breaks my heart bc Lindsay is SOOO deserving of the grand gesture of love she gives
Exactly!!! It’s ALWAYS been the man fault in every relationship of hers. Maybe she really should take a look in the mirror and realize what bad she brings to her relationships. She’s the common denominator in all the relationships that have run far away from her.
I literally don’t understand the logic behind blaming an airline for not checking in for your flight on time… it’s the most basic thing and you’re upset that people won’t bend the rules for you? Is your ego that huge??
I haven't once heard Lindsay take any personal accountabilty for her role in the breakdown of the relationship. I find it hard to believe someone could be blindsided by a breakup save for infidelity. What were the issues they were working through in therapy? It would have been nice to hear her say something to effect of we both had our issues and ultimately we weren't compatible.
Yes!!! She’s a lot! How can ppl not see that who have watched the show in the past! So you can only be a cheerleader for your spouse if you’re a 1950s stepford wife?? She’s already seemed to be all about herself all these years.
I’m not surprised about your experience with Air Canada. Even as a Canadian who travels frequently, I avoid them at all cost. They go out of their way to make you miserable while taking no accountability for their errors, operational issues, delays and overall terrible customer service! Sorry you guys had to experience it 😢
I have second hand embarrassment for Nick and Natalie’s Ken and Karen behavior. Their outrage about not being above the policy has their entitlement on full display.
I’m Canadian, and Air Canada is known for being assholes. It’s not like N&N missed the 90 min by much, sounds like they arrived at the check in counter on time and the staff member took her sweet time doing her thing and then refused to check them in. Plus the expectation for them to check in online is not well known for people who don’t fly AC regularly, and Natalie is pregnant!! There was no need for them to be turned away from check in. AC doesn’t give a fuuuuu….
I agree - their experience wasn't that bad. The service - sure I can absolutely believe that as I have flown Air Canada countless times and bad service is par for the course. But their inconvenience is minor in the grand scheme of things.
I thought I was the only one! I fly a lot and have only had the best experiences with check-ins. I have been late, too, and the check-in assistants have been wonderful to me. I don’t buy their story. They are leaving something out.
Yes, they were told to come early and not only did they not do that, they were late 🤷♀️!! I would be annoyed too, but you have to acknowledge your part in it!
I agree Air Canada sucks. But also not checking in more than 90 minutes before an international flight and thinking you could check in your dog last minute… thats why you didn’t make your flight
But they’re reality stars and should get what they want. Even if that means violating company policy. Who cares if they get fired or in trouble as long as they got their way. 😂
It's not okay for Nick & Lindsay to be lowkey shaming "performance issues" . It makes me uncomfy and is really disrespectful. I get that Nick is trying to "get the tea" but talking about intimacy issues is a boundary that shouldn't be up for grabs for gossip.
I don’t believe it for a second either. Give me a break! He knows what she’s like and that he can’t shut her up. Going off what we’ve seen in the past, it’s for sure not all Carls fault!
Im not an experienced traveller, so someone please correct me if needed.. but isn’t it common knowledge that everyone MUST check-in for their flights, whether in person or online, otherwise there are no other options? Maybe I missed something in his story
@@4inlovewithmusic They're just pissed off they didn't get special treatment and instead are choosing to blame this on Air Canada (which yes, they suck but not in this situation) and their "hatred" for her pregnancy (which this situation had zero to do with). It screams entitlement.
@@kassistuebing9301I’ve been waiting for air canadas comments on her pregnancy. The fact that none of this had to do with her pregnancy invalidates their story.
Team lindsay..she has always been the most authentic one on summer house. She was so open and honest in this and that's appreciated, unlike most bravo stars! I truly think this will be the best thing to happen to her
No. Clearly Lindsay will be the lonely one. We’ve seen her ruin all her relationships on tv ‘cause she needs to get her way. Me me me… good luck with that!
I have no idea who she or the show is. I’m sure lots of people do, but it would be nice to introduce the person and give a quick recap of the situation they are talking about!
I feel bad that they were not nice to you😢 but I feel like having to check in 90 minutes before your flight (wether online or in person) is like standard practise that everyone knows. Maybe just in Canada idk but I feel like that’s common knowledge
It’s always been customary to me as a Canadian that if I’m flying international to get to the airport 2-3 hours before the flight depending on the time and day I’m flying. I’m also shocked since I fly out of Pearson so much that a first thing flight only took a few minutes to get through customs. I’ve nearly missed my flight because of customs with those early flights when I give myself 2+ hours.
Overall team Lindsey but her story doesn’t add up. Can’t believe none of her 412 girl friends didn’t be honest with her about this coming. Actually, this interview explains why they didn’t, she’s a beast. She claims it was out of no where, etc. but then her stories talk about how from Sunday to Wednesday ish they had not spoke? They had been fighting for weeks about career potential and finances? Their whole relationship was Lindsey controlling him, she was realizing he wasn’t measuring up and the public attention wasn’t covering it up anymore and he realized she further decreased his confidence and reminded him he doesn’t measure up. Not meant to be, and Kyle knew this from the beginning.
Yup! Always makes everything look like the other person is the bad guy. She had no part in any of it. She’s the perfect woman. That’s why all the men are after her. Or wait, all the men have run from her. Maybe she’s the common denominator!! 🤔
Lindsey can say she was blindsided. Yes they were having issues but in no way was she expecting them to break up. Plenty of couples have issues and move past them. Also its her experience and perspective. Let people live. If she felt blindsided who are you to tell her, her experience of her breakup
Tbh I've watched both of them through the seasons and I was so beyond happy for this relationship! I felt it was gonna finally be Lindsay's time! I can't even imagine how she felt,none of us can unless we've been there! I'd love to hear Carl's side but truthfully we probably wouldn't even get the real story from sounds of it. It really seems like Carl should of sat down and had a real conversation with her, however I think Lindsay is such a powerful woman that it could be hard for her to really let down that wall and fully trust him, and I really think at the end of the day he felt inadequate in all aspects of life when it comes to the life Lindsay has built for herself. I think that she's such a powerful woman that men don't think they could ever live up to her standards, this is nothing against her, but I would say to maybe step away from being so hardcore with that. There are men out there that are willing to step up and be the man you want, but my husband told me one time men NEED TO BE NEEDED! I'll never forget the times when I was dating my husband he was opening the door for me, and still does to this day, and I told him hey I can do this myself, and he said hey let me do this It makes me feel good just let me, and it was at that point I finally said ok I'll let my guard down and let this man show me who he really is, he made me feel safe and at peace. Those are the 2 biggest things women need to remember being with a man, I love him to death but when I say peace and safe I mean that not only physically but mentally! I know this man has my back and I'll never take that for granted! Lindsay there is someone out there for you! And I truly believe you'll find a man that matches and loves everything you are! It seems like Carl really needs to dig deep inside and it really does appear that he masks his feelings and those conversations especially if you watch the show through out the years! Lindsay finally seemed like she was the woman to build him up! But he needs to figure it out! I'm so sorry for both of them I can't even imagine the heartache! I also want to say the friends she has, says so Incredibly much! I get down on myself sometimes and then look at the army I have behind me and that says so much about Lindsay, if she was such a bad person that she often gets portrayed to be, these incredible women wouldn't be there. I know she will find happiness, and this is just a very tough and hard learning curve!!
Men must document everything with Lindsay because she is T-O-X-I-C AF and the type to make false allegations. Everett, Stephen, Jason, Carl, they all were the problem?
Wait she said she was blindsided and it came out of no where then she says the last two weeks she was blindsided in how he was not the same person and so it can’t be both. I feel sorry for Lindsay. This is such a tough time for any woman. She will find someone so much better !!!
The episode of Special Forces where they have to drive through gunfire and are told to “protect the principal” Nick is one of only 2 I think who pass the test, and I wonder if in his mind the principal was Natalie and baby.
Women need to understand that nagging and asking questions it’s probably the hugest turn off in the world. Lindsey is my fav but you have to trust that the person you marry can take care of themselves so asking about something he working on is pointless. He doesn’t need a career counselor in his fiancée…
have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with them from Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm neither Canadian nor American)
As a fellow Canadian believe meeee I have my stories about Air Canada! It sucks and doesn’t make sense when people in ‘customer service’ positions don’t provide even the bare minimum.. butttt one question in opposition.. maybe I’m wrong.. but who doesn’t check in for a flight before they get to the airport?! 😬🤷🏽♀️
Is she not aware that this was all captured on film? Blindsided and ‘no indication’ after seeing the first episodes shows that she is living in a complete alternate reality.
Sorry but I believe Lindsay the way Carl acted with not being able to Simply communicate with Kyle about the way Kyle aggressively flipped out on Lindsay That season and Carl could not say anything to him not one simple word of communication
Lindsay was so caught up in the idea of marriage and rush to start a family she was ignoring all the red flags. It was so intense watching them all season. From the moment they announced their relationship I couldn’t feel the love. Everything was so forced. Was so happy when it was over. Couldn’t stand another season of them together. Worst relationship I’ve ever witnessed on TV.
It remains to be seen if Lindsay was just ignoring things. She has over the years shown how toxic she is in a relationship so jury is out. She steps in shite on the show because she is so cray cray. anyone who watches the show hope her therapist watches to see how unhealthy Lindsay's reactions and interpretations of situations are.
THIS!!!! She’s not fooling me one bit! Carl needs a partner who can be there for him as much as she wants him to be there for her! She needs ALL the attention for herself.
Lindsey said everything I expected her to say. Basically she blames Carl for everything. Zero accountability on her part or admitting to anything she did wrong in the relationship. She said all the typical modern women BS throughout the interview. Her talk about success at the end was cringe and red flags. She said Carl didn't have a career plan. Why would she want to marry a man who doesn’t have his career plan in place? Nick should’ve asked her that. But he never pushed back on anything she said. Which is hypocritical given how he said Howie Mandel didn’t push back on Sandoval.
She said he was going through a transitional time & that if they were going to get married and have kids he needs a plan on what he wants to do. When they first started dating he had a career, he chose to leave bc he couldn’t handle working for an alcohol company. There’s nothing wrong with asking him what he might want to do next, especially if that’s your fiancée. I would be asking my husband the same thing if we were in that situation. And as far as I’m concerned she doesn’t have to own anything, the way he went about breaking up with her was absolutely vile & he had numerous opportunities in couple counseling to bring up any of these problems and work on them but instead he just walked away… like a coward
@@ShawnaT89 I didn't say there is anything wrong in Lindsey asking Carl to have a career plan. But she was willing to marry him even though he didn't have one. I wonder why? The thing is that men rarely breakup with women, especially when it's so sudden. usually it's women who breakup with men. So if Carl broke up with her, there is no way she didn't do something wrong in the relationship. Men don't breakup and leave guaranteed sex, for no reason. She must've done something wrong or few things wrong, but she doesn't want to say. You don't know if he did or didn't say anything in the therapy sessions. Lindsey said he didn't, but that doesn't mean it's true. Even though I'm not surprised, it is major red flags when a woman tells so much and blames it all on the man without taking accountability for any wrongdoing on her part. And this is not the first time Lindsey has done that. She has a track record of avoiding accountability. Btw, even in her story she said that Carl called off the wedding but still wanted to do couples therapy with her. She is the one who declined. She is the one who didn't want to speak to him for weeks and had her friend communicate with him inserted. That's a coward actually, not to mention immature!
No. If Carl was a wimp then she’d keep him around. She wants a yes man. Guarantee the next guy will run too! As they all have. I mean common denominator….
I would have had the conversations about careers, finances, and starting a family way before the end of the summer, before the wedding. I would have had those prior to getting engaged.
To know the dynamics of VPR, look at the season picture. Also most of the time the season intro, tells us a lot about who gets along. The new season will tell us I think.
As far as the Sandoval stuff goes, I don’t think the other cast members (aside from Scheana who needs to be liked by everybody) liked him before. They only suffered through him for Ariana’s sake. And he also isn’t really sorry and keeps goading her, like calling her stank face at bravo con.
Whos watching this after the new season has aired?
“There were no signs” continues to list signs….
“We rarely fought”…. We went to counseling because of fighting
“He’s my best friend”…. “We didn’t communicate on a deeper level”
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This. She said she didn’t know until he said it on camera but then turns around and said she called her dad and said “well he did it” and that she had intuition and knew. Which one was it? Shes always talked in circles
Lindsay: I was totally blindsided!
Also Lindsay: spends the rest of the podcast talking about all the things that went wrong 🤷♀️
I think both things can be true. She is aware they were having issues but they were not talking about not getting married or breaking up.
I was not surprised at all this marriage didn’t happen. I think they both dodged a bullet, this relationship had so so many red flags 🚩
I truly believe Carl didn't stand up for Lindsay in the house during those heated moments with the rest of the cast because he subconsciously knew what they were saying was true and he did not know how to handle the situation. Let's not forget he ended things with her years ago for similar behavior patterns and made plenty of comments back then that he could not handle her intensity.
I think he ended it because all of those red flags came to the forefront. You cannot stay in the honeymoon phase forever and from what I saw in some of the episodes from last season, he was being abused and she demanded way too much from him.
Agree. That’s why he went SO hard in the reunion. Someone got it his ear and he’s immature.
Watching this two episodes into the new season and Lindsey confirms that she was the problem. She deflected the entire time and took no ownership whatsoever. Blindsided? Wow.
“I’m polarizing” me after watching summer house: well you’re polarizing because you’re crazy lmaooo
Hahahahahahaha yes.
Who else is reconsidering this whole interview after last week’s episode? Because her version of “ going off” is a bit irrational. And Carl has been quiet because he doesn’t have to defend himself.
This woman is beyond delusional. Good for Carl.
Yeah she definitely likes to paint a “pretty picture” always when she relays her side of. story. Honestly, everybody would like her better if she was just authentic about her flaws. It’s not about having them, it’s just about acknowledging and being self aware and then maybe working on them. It’s hard to connect when she really is so smart, yet lacks self awareness or is just in denial due to ego and keeping a facade. She’s on a reality show .. we see who she is lol idk the point. She was possibly blindsided to the timing and calling off the wedding, but in general she can’t be shocked he wasn’t into it anymore.. She definitely needs to reword that. Also she gaslights his anger and says “popped off” and things like that when he is in no way doing that..
Came here to re-watch with the season on mind.
I absolutely love Nick and Natalie's outlook on couples therapy! So much healthier than going when it's past the point of no return.
This aged like milk 🥛
It’s come back around idkkkk
I knew from the moment they got engaged that he would break her heart. He’s the type who runs away from his problems instead of fixing them. Carl has some growing up to do. I gotta say I’m super excited for the new season.
That's an interesting take considering he faced his own addiction issues and has been sober for a few years now. But then again, Lindsay is a problem, so it's good hes run from her lol
Lindsey would be an absolute nightmare to be married to. She’s bossy, lies, banged a million guys and brags about it and hooks-up with random dudes on camera. Definitely not “marriage material” in most guys eyes. She’s even a bad friend.
it's not a new take. From the beginning, carl had a severe inferiority complex and was a terrible communicator. What respect can he possibly give lindsay if he can't give himself any?@@sumchick8701
He did it once before so I expected it too.
I knew they also would never get married, but not because he would break her heart. Lindsey has destroyed every relationship. She’s been in because she could never be wrong, never takes responsibility, drinks too much, and then starts ridiculous fights. She’s done it in every relationship since she’s been on summer house, and I’m willing to bet she tanked others before that as well.
I need the Carl interview now that we are seeing things unfold this season!
I do not like Gypsy Rose she got away with murder and I Believe in My heart that she killed her mother personally
I’m more excited for Summer House than Vanderpump Rules new seasons.
I’m not even watching the new vanderpump rules season
Way too much hypocrisy
😂🎉
Same same
Same same
Same! For some reason idc about the new season of VPR much. We all know how it’s gonna play out basically
I wonder how ya’ll feel about this episode now since clearly you were lied to and also manipulated into believing her version of events. I think this is why in the future, it would be best to watch the season, and then have interviews like this.
Lindsey Hubbard takes no accountability. She can never be wrong. She drinks too much and then starts fights. She’s done it in every relationship she’s been in since she’s been on the summer house program and I’m willing to bet she did it with relationships prior to that. That’s why I knew she would ruin this relationship and she and Carl would not get married. Carl dodged a bullet.
BINGO
Thank you so much for having her on! She’s got a lot of support but I’m glad she can tell her side of the story.
Speaks volumes of her being humiliated like that and her speaking today.
In the long run, he did her a favor. A recovering addict in active counseling has a LOT to figure out. A big portion of this is learning to set boundaries. I bet this is what he was struggling with before he ended it. Of course, he did it in the WORST way possible which tells me he is still on the struggle bus big time. He’s likely got a lot more to work through before any further life changing decisions. And to Lindsay - be thankful. If he could do this to you in such a public way, he’s likely capable of a lot worse.
he also always had a severe inferiority complex. it would not have lasted since lindsay is so confident and strong within herself.
Completely agree!
So unfortunate but she truly dodged a bullet. Something better is coming her way.
Frankly I think Carl dodged A VERY CHAOTIC BULLET!!!
I know we only see very small snippets of their lives and personalities etc- however from what we have seen from Carl over the years, is very little regard for anyone’s feelings except his own. Especially when it comes to women. He has never seemed to truly care about any woman he’s dated or hooked up with feelings, he’s always been very selfish & has knowingly hurt women & showed zero care. Just bc you’re not romantically into someone anymore ( not talking about Lindsey specifically just in general any woman he dated or slept with) doesn’t mean you can’t be a decent human being and have empathy, especially when that woman cares or has feelings for you. He is very stunted emotionally & mentally which is common w addicts unfortunately
As a fellow Torontonian, it was so amazing seeing you both as special guests at the CHD show (Natalie is easily one of the coolest people) and thanks so much for bashing Air Canada because all our airlines here need to be humbled to say the least lmfao....
I have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with themfrom Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm not Canadian nor American)
As a Canadian who has flown a ton air Canada, west jet…but also American Airlines, United and Emerates. The Canadian airlines are easily middle of the pack. US airlines are laughable! And then there is Emerates that is wonderful!!!
Thank you for being transparent about Air Canada. There are other airlines in America with “customer service” reps who act the same way! It’s so disgraceful. I really hope it goes viral and there will be backlash. That’s the only way anything will change.
Yeah sounds like their customer service is very sub par
Nick is completely right about Air Canada - no competition. Having to fly them for work is the worst.
Ditto on people who love controlling you instead of servicing you. If you go up the chain to complain about them you’ll find those people at every level even at the top!
WestJet is no better these days.
How does Carl not express the way he feels during couples therapy! This all could have been avoided if he told you this sooner so you guys could worked on your relationship!
He probably did and she refused to hear it. She seems incredibly hard to talk to. Shes always the common factor in fights. If you’re fighting with everyone, you’re the issue.
So funny, when nick was grunting carrying Tom I was laughing so hard. And then the way jojo throws Sandoval over her shoulder and carries him 😂 that was definitely not on my bingo card this year.
That was awesome. Nick talked so much sh!t about Tom and then has to carry him to the point where he’s about to collapse. Might have been some karma built into that moment.
I don’t know anything about them, but this woman is terrifies me.
And all the men she’s ever been with! Lol. I don’t blame any of them. She can lose her shit in a psychotic way and has shown that on national television. Imagine what she won’t show!! Scary!!!
Then you weak asf
I love Lindsay. To me, she feels like the most honest and real person in all of reality television. She's so brutally honest! I feel for her, but all happens for the best!!!
It's clear that Carl lacks emotional maturity.
My respect for Lindsay has grown exponentially after watching this interview. I wish her the best in her life going forward.
As a fellow Canadian, everyone I know, hates Air Canada. My husband and I won't ever use them.
We went to a wedding in Spain last year and we flew WestJet and my friends flew Air Canada... Air Canada kept my friends on the tarmac for over an hour and then just cancelled their flight completely. This is just one story out of hundreds of their horrendous customer service.
So sorry you had to deal with that pregnant Nat! As someone who is also 5 months postpartum, and remembers how emotional and uncomfortable you are pregnant, I can't imagine how this must have felt.
Hate Air Canada, i haven't flown them in over 15 years. Absolute worst airline I've ever flown in my life, their customer service is the worst of the worst.
Wow poor Natalie. What a tragic ordeal she had to deal with. Omg the worst experience of her whole pregnancy, the poor thing.
First podcast to which I have ever listened and it was great. Lindsay was articulate, sharp and had a grip on her emotions. She clearly described her plans, hopes and fears, shared some very personal issues. BTW, I listened without watching the video, because I did not want to be distracted. If you are not Team Lindsay after listening, you were not listening.
EXACTLY
I’m not regular on her show, but what she says doesn’t really add up. She starts on how blind sided she was and she had zero clue, but then talk about how weird he was during filming and how he kept popping off and he changed before the wedding. Umm like wasn’t that a clues that things were off. I understand she could have ignored the clues but it seems like there was warning signs.
Narcissism meets PR 101 by Lindsay Hubbard.
I think watching Lindsey drunk and starting fights with him showed me all I needed to see. Sorry! Drinking and a newly sober person do not make a good match. She did nothing but brow beat him when she was drunk. Run Carl!
You might want to have her back on to clear up some stuff😂
Now do we get to hear the other side of the story? She doesn’t seem to be the easiest person to live with if we see how she’s been with all her other boyfriends on the show. I’m sure there’s more to his side of the story than just what she has to say. She seems to be a very high maintenance person and desperate to be married to anyone. Be happy it happened before you were married. Guarantee she wasn’t perfect!
Exactly...
Exactly! I want both sides!
Correct! To be honest, when they got engaged I kind of felt like she said yes because she didn’t care who was giving the ring, just that I was on her hand.
I don’t see him interviewing with anyone and being completely honest. He’s so guarded whenever he talks. I have nothing against him either. There’s two sides to everything. It’s good to hear her side.
Usually the one who is at peace with the truth and doesn’t have anything to prove, won’t do these types of “tell alls”. I doubt we’ll hear from him.
I’m a flight attendant and a gate agent (while i was in uniform) did this exact thing to me… they can help you but they just don’t want to.. it’s so sad, sorry ya’ll had to go through this!!
Lindsay needs a strong older man with his shit together. Like mid forties. She's too alpha for these little boys
SHE CERTAINLY IS A BEAST. SHE NEEDS A MAN WHO WOULD BACKHAND HER
Fast forward to the season airing and it shows Lindsay just acting like Lindsay… getting wasted drunk and being combative AF. And basically contradicting everything she said in this interview.
They all drink to excess, that's what makes the show.
Bingo! It feels like she’s getting a head of this to set a narrative.
Dang mixed feelings on this one. First off - I'm siding with Lindsay on this one, because what Carl did was impulsive, selfish, and humiliating. (He was acting out of his addicted self). But I'm also amazed how fast she moved forward and past her feelings for him. That's an almost decade-long friendship she is grieving on top of her broken engagement. To be fine after 2 months (and completely over it) doesn't feel authentic to me. Also, I don't hear a lot of ownership for her reactivity or her part in the rupture. It takes two to tango, especially in trauma-bonded relationships. Dr. John Gottman said there's almost fool-proof signs that a couple won't last, and its called the 4 Deadly Horsemen of the Apocalypse. I see Lindsay's contempt, and Carl's is stonewalling and defensiveness.
I dont believe she's completely over it. I think she meant that she's in a better place with herself to move on. She got all her emotions out and grieved during those weeks, so she's better now. Then she kept herself busy to keep her mind off things.
I feel like at a certain age and point in time, after god knows how many heartbreaks, disappointments and so on, you get to a point where moving forward and on happens faster. You don’t forget it and put it in the past, but you you certainly do move forward easier and don’t break down as often
I think she is in the anger stage of grieving. I don't think she necessarily moved past it easily but when someone you love does something so humiliating and publicaly...anger can overpower other emotions or you can just shut down completely. I am a high investment person. Meaning it may take time to earn my trust or love but once I let you in and investment it is everything I have- a high investment. Once that is betrayed or broken I detach completely. Shut down. And it's a subtle inner anger. Then I Want nothing to do with that person and can move on. It's not healthy I'm sure and it's a struggle. Hopefully this makes sense. No matter what though, I wish both Linds and Carl healing. An awful situation no matter who's side you are on. I personally am glad to see her moving forward. Love Lindsey's strength.
Is she supposed to slice her wrists? Dang!
Um but - is anyone catching that they didnt check in? Why are you surprised about not getting on the flight?
Come on. They’re social media/tv stars. The biggest! They should get their way even if it’s against company policy! 😂😂
They didn't arrive early to add the dog, either.
I think a really good, and HONEST therapist would do Lindsey some good.
Yes. Her current therapist is clearly keeping her around for $$ bc this girl needs help
I don’t believe for one second she doesn’t get activated anymore. Just because it shows up differently doesn’t mean it isn’t insufferable
Yeah, there’s no way she doesn’t!
I'm here to say not even 2 episodes and she's activated Lindsay is truly a problem seeing how she twists stories I totally get y he wanted the cameras present
Everything activates Lindsay. So many girls have daddy issues but I’m curious if her narcissism stems from overcompensating because of her mom’s absence in her life. She’s very independent and successful as far as career goes but she doesn’t seem to value her body and I don’t think she’s as confident as she likes to pretend. So desperate to be loved. Her and Danielle have that in common with men and they then wonder why they can’t keep a man.
She tried to date down and that didn’t work out so well for her. Now it’s time to shine and find that king that supports and helps her thrive! Love Lindsay, she’s a a total package ❤❤❤
Those kings don't want to deal with women like her though. They have other, better options to choose from.
Total package? More like total nightmare with a huge body count. Most the type of guys she would interested in marrying, would never want to marry her with all that masculine and controlling energy.
She’s waaaay too needy for all the men she’s dated. She wants to marry anyone. We’ve seen how she acts towards her boyfriends in the show. Imagine what she won’t show on tv! She seems very into what she needs and no one else.
It’s hard for me to believe she is fully over it after 2 months.
About Ariana and Tom... at this point it's the best breakup ever! Made them both tons of money, blew up VPR to more than it's ever been and made Ariana mega famous! That's the best way I guess to end a bad relationship!
The breakup has benefited Ariana way more than Tom though. Even the other women on the show like Scheana, Lala and Katie have benefited more than Tom. And they still want him to not talk, only apologize for the rest of his life.
@@seven92023Funny thing, I have no idea who any of these women are that you are talking about. The only one of those names that I am familiar with is Tom!!!
She is delusional. I think she is super controlling and bossy. As soon as he wasn’t groveling to her- she threw tantrums. And really? Couples in therapy within a year? Idk. Doesn’t sound like best friends to me.
It speaks volumes to the type of friend that Danielle is especially how brutal Lindsay treated her (along with her other “friends”) during last season. And for Lindsay to claim she’s an “open book” is quite humorous, considering she portrayed a “perfect relationship” with Carl, after we saw how brutal & emasculating she was toward him at night when they were in bed together after the lights went down, while she was a cruel toxic drunk, calling him brutal, evil names for no valid reason. It was a toxic relationship from the start, and quite honestly, he dodged a bullet with her. I hope she continues her therapy, and works thru her anger issues. Best of luck to both of them!
Yes! Of course she won’t talk about her part in the whole thing. She’s out for herself. She’s perfect of course. That’s why all the men she’s been with run! 🏃♂️
Incredibly toxic for someone in active recovery to be around someone like that. Clearly no regard for how her behavior, while also being under the influence, could trigger Carl & put his sobriety in jeopardy.
I don’t even watch Summer House and this interview was riveting.
Carl's lack of relationships is just as concerning as Lindsey's serial monogamist approach to relationships; they can both benefit from being single and going to therapy to individually work out their issues
Yes! She jumps from man to man to man so she can get married. She clearly is not as great as she makes herself out to be when we see every man has run! Run….run far away!!
Lindsay looks amazing! I hope she finds her Prince Charm in her new fairytale. ✨
Does anyone not find it interesting that Lindsay has ZERO accountability? It’s always everyone else’s problem, everyone else is always the enemy. I do not believe for one second Carl said he didn’t want her to have an opinion. The fact she sat with other alpha females to dissect and pick apart Carl, instead of look objectively and consider her role, speaks volumes. I’m curious if these women have successful relationships. Lindsay has just continued to bash Carl. The way I’ve heard him speak about it is very grounded and calm, and he isn’t doing a smear campaign. If she was a man going on and saying all of this people would think she was a jerk. Why is she getting away with this as a woman?
He did his smear campaign just in a different way. Calling production to break up with her on camera is the most vile thing he could have done. It’s gross.
YES!! Look at her history. It’s clear she’s a LOT to handle!! She seems to a put herself first most of the time. If he needed a cheerleader than that’s your job as the significant other. She wants him to be there for her but can’t do the same. She is so desperate for anyone to marry her and that’s why she ends up with the wrong men for her every single time. Your history speaks lady. You’re not fooling all of us at least!
1:05:57 the fact Lindsey puts %110 in loving her partner and wanting it in return is bc she is a woman in search of unconditional love her mother never gave her, and it breaks my heart bc Lindsay is SOOO deserving of the grand gesture of love she gives
last two weeks of summer carl was telling her that couples therapy wasn’t working, yet she claims she was blindsided after filming? interesting
So she knew but didn't want to really know. She sure does see his flaws but not hers
Exactly!!! It’s ALWAYS been the man fault in every relationship of hers. Maybe she really should take a look in the mirror and realize what bad she brings to her relationships. She’s the common denominator in all the relationships that have run far away from her.
Carl dodged a bullet!
I literally don’t understand the logic behind blaming an airline for not checking in for your flight on time… it’s the most basic thing and you’re upset that people won’t bend the rules for you? Is your ego that huge??
I haven't once heard Lindsay take any personal accountabilty for her role in the breakdown of the relationship. I find it hard to believe someone could be blindsided by a breakup save for infidelity. What were the issues they were working through in therapy? It would have been nice to hear her say something to effect of we both had our issues and ultimately we weren't compatible.
You didn't listen, just say that. She literally said they were there for communication because there was trouble communicating on bigger issues.
And I’m sure if she said it it must be true then 😂
She's not capable of taking accountability. Carl made the right decision.
this interview is so embarassing for her knowing what we know now
Listening to this .there were problems..and it looks like they were taking a toll on Carl..not her
Yes!!! She’s a lot! How can ppl not see that who have watched the show in the past! So you can only be a cheerleader for your spouse if you’re a 1950s stepford wife?? She’s already seemed to be all about herself all these years.
She also only referred to their relationship as "seasons". She had no real.life references it was all about the show.
I’m not surprised about your experience with Air Canada. Even as a Canadian who travels frequently, I avoid them at all cost. They go out of their way to make you miserable while taking no accountability for their errors, operational issues, delays and overall terrible customer service! Sorry you guys had to experience it 😢
I have second hand embarrassment for Nick and Natalie’s Ken and Karen behavior. Their outrage about not being above the policy has their entitlement on full display.
I’m Canadian, and Air Canada is known for being assholes. It’s not like N&N missed the 90 min by much, sounds like they arrived at the check in counter on time and the staff member took her sweet time doing her thing and then refused to check them in. Plus the expectation for them to check in online is not well known for people who don’t fly AC regularly, and Natalie is pregnant!! There was no need for them to be turned away from check in. AC doesn’t give a fuuuuu….
I agree - their experience wasn't that bad. The service - sure I can absolutely believe that as I have flown Air Canada countless times and bad service is par for the course. But their inconvenience is minor in the grand scheme of things.
I thought I was the only one! I fly a lot and have only had the best experiences with check-ins. I have been late, too, and the check-in assistants have been wonderful to me.
I don’t buy their story. They are leaving something out.
Yes, they were told to come early and not only did they not do that, they were late 🤷♀️!! I would be annoyed too, but you have to acknowledge your part in it!
Agreed!
I fast forward to the interview…..
I agree Air Canada sucks. But also not checking in more than 90 minutes before an international flight and thinking you could check in your dog last minute… thats why you didn’t make your flight
But they’re reality stars and should get what they want. Even if that means violating company policy. Who cares if they get fired or in trouble as long as they got their way. 😂
It's not okay for Nick & Lindsay to be lowkey shaming "performance issues" . It makes me uncomfy and is really disrespectful. I get that Nick is trying to "get the tea" but talking about intimacy issues is a boundary that shouldn't be up for grabs for gossip.
I call bullshit. I don't believe Carl told her not to have an opinion or to shut up and just be happy and excited for them getting married.
Do you know him personally?
I don’t believe it for a second either. Give me a break! He knows what she’s like and that he can’t shut her up. Going off what we’ve seen in the past, it’s for sure not all Carls fault!
Nick should take notes from his new young producer about how to ask shorter questions that have just as much punch.
Im not an experienced traveller, so someone please correct me if needed.. but isn’t it common knowledge that everyone MUST check-in for their flights, whether in person or online, otherwise there are no other options? Maybe I missed something in his story
Yes. Checking in is a requirement.
So then what’s the issue? They should have checked-in lol
@@4inlovewithmusic They're just pissed off they didn't get special treatment and instead are choosing to blame this on Air Canada (which yes, they suck but not in this situation) and their "hatred" for her pregnancy (which this situation had zero to do with). It screams entitlement.
You missed that they’re famous in their eyes and everyone else should think so too and give them a free pass when they want one.
@@kassistuebing9301I’ve been waiting for air canadas comments on her pregnancy. The fact that none of this had to do with her pregnancy invalidates their story.
Team lindsay..she has always been the most authentic one on summer house. She was so open and honest in this and that's appreciated, unlike most bravo stars! I truly think this will be the best thing to happen to her
I think she the most deceitful and calculating one in the house.
😂😂 really??? The most authentic?
Carl's going to be a very lonely person in life
No. Clearly Lindsay will be the lonely one. We’ve seen her ruin all her relationships on tv ‘cause she needs to get her way. Me me me… good luck with that!
I have no idea who she or the show is. I’m sure lots of people do, but it would be nice to introduce the person and give a quick recap of the situation they are talking about!
Summer House
Dating a man child is the most draining thing ever. I feel for Lindsay. People who walk away or stonewall when shit gets hard, been there done that.
I feel bad that they were not nice to you😢 but I feel like having to check in 90 minutes before your flight (wether online or in person) is like standard practise that everyone knows. Maybe just in Canada idk but I feel like that’s common knowledge
It’s always been customary to me as a Canadian that if I’m flying international to get to the airport 2-3 hours before the flight depending on the time and day I’m flying.
I’m also shocked since I fly out of Pearson so much that a first thing flight only took a few minutes to get through customs. I’ve nearly missed my flight because of customs with those early flights when I give myself 2+ hours.
Overall team Lindsey but her story doesn’t add up. Can’t believe none of her 412 girl friends didn’t be honest with her about this coming. Actually, this interview explains why they didn’t, she’s a beast. She claims it was out of no where, etc. but then her stories talk about how from Sunday to Wednesday ish they had not spoke? They had been fighting for weeks about career potential and finances? Their whole relationship was Lindsey controlling him, she was realizing he wasn’t measuring up and the public attention wasn’t covering it up anymore and he realized she further decreased his confidence and reminded him he doesn’t measure up. Not meant to be, and Kyle knew this from the beginning.
Yup! Always makes everything look like the other person is the bad guy. She had no part in any of it. She’s the perfect woman. That’s why all the men are after her. Or wait, all the men have run from her. Maybe she’s the common denominator!! 🤔
Anyone else catch that the "hypothetical" comment was highly suggested as NOT hypothetical? hahaha
Yeah they essentially confirm Carl has performance issues at the end. Woowwww.
It’s probably her! I’m sure he’s fine otherwise.
Show starts at @37:00. You're welcome
Thank you!
Lindsey can say she was blindsided. Yes they were having issues but in no way was she expecting them to break up. Plenty of couples have issues and move past them. Also its her experience and perspective. Let people live. If she felt blindsided who are you to tell her, her experience of her breakup
Tbh I've watched both of them through the seasons and I was so beyond happy for this relationship! I felt it was gonna finally be Lindsay's time! I can't even imagine how she felt,none of us can unless we've been there! I'd love to hear Carl's side but truthfully we probably wouldn't even get the real story from sounds of it. It really seems like Carl should of sat down and had a real conversation with her, however I think Lindsay is such a powerful woman that it could be hard for her to really let down that wall and fully trust him, and I really think at the end of the day he felt inadequate in all aspects of life when it comes to the life Lindsay has built for herself. I think that she's such a powerful woman that men don't think they could ever live up to her standards, this is nothing against her, but I would say to maybe step away from being so hardcore with that. There are men out there that are willing to step up and be the man you want, but my husband told me one time men NEED TO BE NEEDED! I'll never forget the times when I was dating my husband he was opening the door for me, and still does to this day, and I told him hey I can do this myself, and he said hey let me do this It makes me feel good just let me, and it was at that point I finally said ok I'll let my guard down and let this man show me who he really is, he made me feel safe and at peace. Those are the 2 biggest things women need to remember being with a man, I love him to death but when I say peace and safe I mean that not only physically but mentally! I know this man has my back and I'll never take that for granted! Lindsay there is someone out there for you! And I truly believe you'll find a man that matches and loves everything you are! It seems like Carl really needs to dig deep inside and it really does appear that he masks his feelings and those conversations especially if you watch the show through out the years! Lindsay finally seemed like she was the woman to build him up! But he needs to figure it out! I'm so sorry for both of them I can't even imagine the heartache! I also want to say the friends she has, says so Incredibly much! I get down on myself sometimes and then look at the army I have behind me and that says so much about Lindsay, if she was such a bad person that she often gets portrayed to be, these incredible women wouldn't be there. I know she will find happiness, and this is just a very tough and hard learning curve!!
Men must document everything with Lindsay because she is T-O-X-I-C AF and the type to make false allegations. Everett, Stephen, Jason, Carl, they all were the problem?
Wow, what a great interview. Your questions Nick were masterful. Love the show.
Wait she said she was blindsided and it came out of no where then she says the last two weeks she was blindsided in how he was not the same person and so it can’t be both. I feel sorry for Lindsay. This is such a tough time for any woman. She will find someone so much better !!!
They have people waiting to fly standby (mostly employees), so ur spot will be gone if you miss the cutoff. Always check in 24 hours before online!
The episode of Special Forces where they have to drive through gunfire and are told to “protect the principal” Nick is one of only 2 I think who pass the test, and I wonder if in his mind the principal was Natalie and baby.
a drunk and a recovering addict were never meant to be.
Women need to understand that nagging and asking questions it’s probably the hugest turn off in the world. Lindsey is my fav but you have to trust that the person you marry can take care of themselves so asking about something he working on is pointless. He doesn’t need a career counselor in his fiancée…
Im so stoked for this!
Doesn’t surprise me at all he’s always shown he’s a commitment phobe
As a Canadian. We get it. And we are sorry. Air Canada sucks
have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with them from Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm neither Canadian nor American)
As a fellow Canadian believe meeee I have my stories about Air Canada! It sucks and doesn’t make sense when people in ‘customer service’ positions don’t provide even the bare minimum.. butttt one question in opposition.. maybe I’m wrong.. but who doesn’t check in for a flight before they get to the airport?! 😬🤷🏽♀️
I wish guests would make more eye contact with Natalie
She is not asking any questions 😢
Is she not aware that this was all captured on film? Blindsided and ‘no indication’ after seeing the first episodes shows that she is living in a complete alternate reality.
Sorry but I believe Lindsay the way Carl acted with not being able to Simply communicate with Kyle about the way Kyle aggressively flipped out on Lindsay That season and Carl could not say anything to him not one simple word of communication
Lindsay was so caught up in the idea of marriage and rush to start a family she was ignoring all the red flags. It was so intense watching them all season. From the moment they announced their relationship I couldn’t feel the love. Everything was so forced. Was so happy when it was over. Couldn’t stand another season of them together. Worst relationship I’ve ever witnessed on TV.
It remains to be seen if Lindsay was just ignoring things. She has over the years shown how toxic she is in a relationship so jury is out. She steps in shite on the show because she is so cray cray. anyone who watches the show hope her therapist watches to see how unhealthy Lindsay's reactions and interpretations of situations are.
THIS!!!! She’s not fooling me one bit! Carl needs a partner who can be there for him as much as she wants him to be there for her! She needs ALL the attention for herself.
Here here👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Lindsey said everything I expected her to say. Basically she blames Carl for everything. Zero accountability on her part or admitting to anything she did wrong in the relationship. She said all the typical modern women BS throughout the interview. Her talk about success at the end was cringe and red flags.
She said Carl didn't have a career plan. Why would she want to marry a man who doesn’t have his career plan in place? Nick should’ve asked her that. But he never pushed back on anything she said. Which is hypocritical given how he said Howie Mandel didn’t push back on Sandoval.
She said he was going through a transitional time & that if they were going to get married and have kids he needs a plan on what he wants to do. When they first started dating he had a career, he chose to leave bc he couldn’t handle working for an alcohol company. There’s nothing wrong with asking him what he might want to do next, especially if that’s your fiancée. I would be asking my husband the same thing if we were in that situation. And as far as I’m concerned she doesn’t have to own anything, the way he went about breaking up with her was absolutely vile & he had numerous opportunities in couple counseling to bring up any of these problems and work on them but instead he just walked away… like a coward
@@ShawnaT89 I didn't say there is anything wrong in Lindsey asking Carl to have a career plan. But she was willing to marry him even though he didn't have one. I wonder why?
The thing is that men rarely breakup with women, especially when it's so sudden. usually it's women who breakup with men. So if Carl broke up with her, there is no way she didn't do something wrong in the relationship. Men don't breakup and leave guaranteed sex, for no reason. She must've done something wrong or few things wrong, but she doesn't want to say. You don't know if he did or didn't say anything in the therapy sessions. Lindsey said he didn't, but that doesn't mean it's true.
Even though I'm not surprised, it is major red flags when a woman tells so much and blames it all on the man without taking accountability for any wrongdoing on her part. And this is not the first time Lindsey has done that. She has a track record of avoiding accountability.
Btw, even in her story she said that Carl called off the wedding but still wanted to do couples therapy with her. She is the one who declined. She is the one who didn't want to speak to him for weeks and had her friend communicate with him inserted. That's a coward actually, not to mention immature!
This!!!
Plain and simple Carl is a wimp! He let's Kyle rule him like a puppy dog. Lindsay he did you a favor. You deserve better and a more mature person 😊
No. If Carl was a wimp then she’d keep him around. She wants a yes man. Guarantee the next guy will run too! As they all have. I mean common denominator….
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They couldn't because of the dog...
@@Calvaire1so then arrive extra early 🤷🏾
“First month was definitely violence” 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I wonder how this interview would have been different if it had taken place AFTER the season aired.
I would have had the conversations about careers, finances, and starting a family way before the end of the summer, before the wedding. I would have had those prior to getting engaged.
To know the dynamics of VPR, look at the season picture. Also most of the time the season intro, tells us a lot about who gets along. The new season will tell us I think.
She’s so full of it. The world did not know about this. It wasn’t Scandoval as much as she wishes it was.
...the airport problem is sounding more like a you issue...
I agree with Nick that it’s helpful to go out of your way to be extra kind to people who work the check in counters at airports.
As far as the Sandoval stuff goes, I don’t think the other cast members (aside from Scheana who needs to be liked by everybody) liked him before. They only suffered through him for Ariana’s sake. And he also isn’t really sorry and keeps goading her, like calling her stank face at bravo con.
I already knew I liked nick vialls podcast but him bashing air Canada has me like … I love nick Viall… he is for the people