I don't believe Jimmy wants to be friends with Chelsea genuinely. He just wants to preserve his 'good edit' on the show. And he knows Chelsea will restrain herself from saying the things he did because they're now 'friends'. You can all hear she said she had to apologize to him because she said what he had done.
I dislike the fact that he’s trying to shush her by staying friends with her. She should be allowed to speak her truth freely without offending his feelings because she shouldn’t get hate for no reason.
You guys did a great job of cornering Jimmy! He contradicts himself soooo much, I totally understand why Chelsea would be so confused! Chelsea, if you're reading this, I hope you can cut this relationship off and move on. You can't be friends with someone who doesn't respect you. Jimmy says a lot of things everyone wants to hear even now! And Chelsea is still falling for it. She def rather believe her delusions than real life. I don't think they're bad people but they have a lot of stuff to work on - Jimmy on his communication skills for sure and Chelsea should stop trying to be a "chill girl"! They both have very different realities of the events that occurred. They need to both have boundaries, cut each other out and move on with their lives. Wish them healing!
JIMMY IS TOM SANDY just are a slightly smaller scale!!! When he was talking all I could think of was TOM the WHOLE time!!! SMH like DUDE ur saying the same shit over and over and just going around in circles and ITS ANNOYING u cant admit when ur wrong!!!!
EXACTLY!!! They say a lot of words! "I love him" "I respect her" blah blah... She needs to respect herself enough to realize she doesn't have to be on good terms with an ex. She is still clearly hurt from his actions but she's acting like his saviour? Like wtf. So many of us women do this! Over empathizing for OTHER people when you should give yourself some grace! Sometimes you need to cut people out so better people who are more aligned with you have space in your life. You hear that Jimmy? Stop being so close with exes or people you've hooked up with JEEZ@@amandar8699
Jimmy has tried to silence Chelsea on multiple occasions. First about the girl friend, and now about the pocket call situation. Everything is about *him*. But I don't fault Chelsea for cuddling him. He's so weak 💀 he's holding on to dear life with his lies and contradictions. Jimmy and Chelsea's relationship is a direct representation of heterosexual relationships and why dating ʍɛռ is so hard nowadays. Chelsea is literally bearing the whole emotional weight of the relationship, even 1 year after their break up. God forbid Jimmy would have to deal with his emotions and take accountability for his actions! 💀
Listen, after him saying he spoke to Jess for 10 mins and she ran out & they rolled the tapes back and it was HOURS they were speaking, he’s memory is clearly distorted 🌚 so I wouldn’t believe him tbh
Not just that but he told her he wanted to cut back on s*x with her and then denied that on camera!! He’s such a liar, makes me re think every fight they ever had!
OH MY GODDDD when Jimmy was explaining that he wasn’t going to slow down his friendships with the girls and Nick said “okay so what you’re saying is you’d stop being friends with them for someone else just not for Chelsea even though you were going to get married” 😅😅😅😅 totally changed my perspective on Jimmy and Chelsea. I’m sorry Chelsea 😔 girl you were done DIRTY
Jimmy was definitely never sincere about his feelings towards Chelsea and deep down his actions and words definitely portrayed his feelings. Also, him choosing his friends over the woman he “loved” and wanted to marry doesn’t make sense. Eventually when people decide to get married their person comes first and friends are no longer the priority. Jimmy basically used the FRIENDs secret as his excuse and it definitely worked out for him. Just tell me why his bestie is now promoting their merch👀
I disagree with that assessment, I think if Chelsea had went about it completely differently he would have done it for her, but after that fight he wasn't and he was already a no so they weren't going to get married so why step back for someone he knew he wasn't going to marry.
Not Jimmy saying he isn’t a party guy and doesn’t want to be portrayed as such because his mom will see it but yet his actions are the opposite of his words 🙃 I feel like this man does whatever he wants and then bats his eyes to the people he manipulates like please don’t tell anyone who I really am 😢
I'm sorry, but I would never feel comfortable with my boyfriend being friends with a woman he has been intimate with in the past. And if my partner couldn't respect that boundary, and gaslit me to think I was insecure in enforcing it, I'd leave immediately.
Not only that but she clearly was territorial and making uncomfortable comments about sex wirh Jimmy. Clearly she wouldn't have Chelsea's best interest at heart
I would be weird about it too but it’s wild to me that one of the first people chelsea FaceTimed when she got her phone back was an ex. Who also is expecting a child? Like how is that better? She even said she wanted them to meet. I just think it’s such a double standard.
He failed. He got a good edit but I still hated him on the show. Even with them not showing most of his dirty deeds, I could still see how he was not treating Chelsea right and I did not like him. He’s a coward.
@@sobiaehsan1857I actually thought he was pretty straight forward. He asked for specific things he did prior to butt dial and she couldn’t produce one example. He asked multiple times. She just says things like “ all the girls knew”. Well all the girls heard your version just like the girls on Zanab’s season thought Cole asked her not to eat cuties because of their calories.
@jolieluc It feels like Chelsea is desperate to hold onto Jimmy even as a "friend" so she's being careful with specifics she shares out of fear that he'll cut her off again. Chelsea just seems sooo desperate it's cringe to see.
@@sobiaehsan1857 Eh. She didn’t care to bring up the friend, then apologized afterwards. Now she didn’t care to bring up the butt dial, only to “apologize” after that too. She’s willing to talk but she wants to keep her persona up too.
@@sobiaehsan1857No I actually feel like she's staying friends with him because she knows he can't handle the heat. She's still cuddling him 1 year after the break up. He's friends with her because he's trying to control the narrative.
Good job of making us remember how Jimmy was obsessed with appearing to be the best couple. He was image driven. While Chelsea was showing the bad and good.
What I really appreciate about the Nick Viall Files, is that Nick knows these reality stars personally & wants to continue having them on their show while simultaneously giving honest opinions about them even if not in the best light! As a viewer, that is SO valued & so appreciated! 👏
Jimmy would seem cool as a friend but not boyfriend or husband material right now lol the guy does not take ownership for much. And he gives me the vibe he’s definitely still hooking up with his “girl, friends” Chelsea is a sweetheart hope she finds the right person for her
I like the interviews, I really do .... however ... I would love for Nick to ask the questions one at a time instead of answering the question on their behalf and then asking a second and third question in the same paragraph of run on sentences, it drives me nuts 😂❤
My perspective on Chelsea and Jimmy has completely changed. He takes no accountability I’ve never seen someone dodge a question so hard... wowww come on Jimmy. Spot on Nick, Jimmy doesn’t wanna let go of his “hero” edit.
Probably because he’s not completely at fault like Chelsea is making it seem. She totally was whiny and clingy and it kept pushing him away. I really don’t think it was all THAT edited in his favor.
I was a Chelsea hater this whole time she did a ton of outrageous things But him telling her a secret that impacts there future off camera and expecting her to be okay with that and not address it on camera was unfair. Also the fact that she was justified in thinking her wasn’t that into her because he wasn’t… but acting as he’s totally into her and her thinking that or being insecure about they’re relationship is all in her head when clearly it was not… she just responded to it so badly that it negated the things he was doing to contribute to why she was feeling the way she was she blew it way out of proportion and handled the arguments terribly and so all we saw was the negative Chelsea moments but let’s be real if she would have addressed the things she was seeing in Jimmy not feeling the relationship in a healthy way I think we’d all be siding with her because she has a point but because her insecurities took over her rational thinking we lo hate Chelsea and forget that Jimmy did things to make her feel this way like they’re only filming for 4 hours a day and he was gone the rest of the day and didn’t want much to do with her even during the 4 hours of filming.. he should have kept it real with Chelsea and told her about his doubts and that he wasn’t attracted to her but instead he wanted to be in love is blind and the least he could do is admit that she wasn’t completely insane for thinking that he wasn’t completely feeling it but instead he’s loving his hero edit and okay with Chelsea looking completely nuts to the public. Chelsea is very much responsible but so is he and he can’t even admit that he’s the tiniest bit responsible for their narrative…
Jimmy is conflict avoidant. That is evident in his dealings with Chelsea. If he wasn’t he would have broken up with her in the beginning. However, I hope Chelsea learns to listen to her gut because I’m convinced that while Jimmy likely played into her insecurities Chelsea knew from day one that he wasn’t as into her as she was into him. That dynamic created a needy, whiney, unhealthy version of herself. She should have been her own advocate and broken up with him.The fact that she would have married him and still wants to be friends with him to me is absolutely WILD. What has he done to earn her friendship? He can’t even say that he contributed to her insecure feelings. Find a secure man Chelsea. This ain’t it!
Jimmy is avoidant and Chelsea is anxious attachment type so it’s a recipe for disaster and for a tv show, the anxious type will look annoying on camera
Jimmy can’t stay on topic or answer a question directly to save his LIFE. Painful to listen to his answers. I’m so glad Nick is so blunt and redirects lol.
I also think the show clearly manufactured a storyline that wasn’t true and if they gave them time to speak the stories would contradict so they choose not to.
Why is no one asking Chelsea the right questions, is no one going to ask her if McKenzie really told her she saw Jimmy out and that he was with Jess, or why she kept saying he never kissed her. Also why is Nick trying to make it seem like Chelsea did NOTHING wrong and let’s just blame the editors 100% of the way
This! I also wondered why she didn't bring up the butt dial and why she agreed that he was only out for an hour and a half? Once again she's lying saying it was the same night and not after they had their big blowout. Why did she agree he didn't retreat to his townhouse when he supposedly did and went out with his friends? She definitely didn't care about bringing up him screwing his friend, not once but twice. Or the AD situation when she broke down crying about not getting enough attention, then trying to manipulate him into feeling bad and give her more affection. Chelsea is super manipulative and she's trying to convince us that her behavior is justified.
@@pryncessdi9358 She literally argued about Jimmy going to his friends birthday for 3 hours when he invited her to go with him and then it came out that she was drunk during that argument, so let’s not act like just bc she’s handling the criticism well it now means she didn’t deserve any. Nick keeps talking about Jimmy doing things that weren’t shown that caused her to act insecure, what were those things and how do you know that Nick?
Plus why are we forgetting that Jimmy was the villain and got a lot of backlash especially when he was in the pods. Why are we trying to make it look like he got a wonderful edit? People just stopped focusing on his actions bc Chelsea’s behavior was more extreme
Kinda icks me out the way Nick mocked and made fun of Chelsea in previous episodes and then has her on like this. Like at least apologize and be real about his thoughts on her.
The fact that he cannot even admit to a tiny little bit of fault to support his “friend” Chelsea says it all. Nick offered many chances but each time he wanted to save face. He is trying to keep Chelsea around to maintain his image until the momentum dies down… I hope Chelsea continues to share her experience and takes a step back from him. Regardless I wish them both the best🤍
From what was seen, I saw Chelsea as a girl that didn’t feel loved by him and needed more, and that’s fair. It seems he doesn’t want to admit the truth even after this long. His faces and way of talking show this. Chelsea forget this guy, even as a friend!
I think it’s telling Jimmy is continuously defending his actions and talking non-stop while Chelsea just can’t get a word in. Like he obviously cares more about his reputation more than Chelsea.
Also wild that she apologizes TO Jimmy about telling the truth that he lied to her and butt dialed her and she found out. And then he doesn’t apologize to her, he just defends himself.
@@FloatingInSpace5702it’s bizarre. I honestly believe there’s more he did that she’s not saying because they’re “friends”. Jimmy is only friends for selfish reasons
Chelsea you don’t owe this man any privacy. He willingly went on televised experiment. You speak your truth and please don’t try to convince yourself that this was a real friendship. You are beautiful and deserve a man who will worship you! ❤
Jimmy knew he had this interview scheduled and takes the call from a bar? And yet he is still defending himself that he doesn’t go out a lot. Also, Jimmy takes advantage of Chelsea’s insecurities and turns things around on her. She apologizes for voicing her opinion and feeling bad for the way he is treating her. That is toxic. Agree with all the comments that Jimmy is trying to publicly save face.
I loved this for him because it really showed his true colours. Not that I once thought he was a good guy off the show alone but they made it all look like it was all Chelsea’s fault.
I agree! And at first, i admit, I did believe that Chelsea was giving him a hard time. However- the more interviews that come out, the more we’re starting to see his true colors. And SO many things from the show came back to mind to prove Chelsea isn’t the (sole) problem. Could she have handled certain things better? sure. But being gaslit will literally make anyone feel/act crazy. Especially when it’s coming from a person you care about and trust. JIMMY IS IMAGE DRIVEN!! how many times on the show did he get legitimately upset with Chelsea for saying Amy and Johnny are the best couple? 🥴 he was SO upset over that. 🚩 such a childish thing to throw a tantrum over… and now he can’t even give Chelsea the same respect of having her back, when she’s clearly had his the entire time, and continues to do so even after HE continuously REFUSES to take accountability for his REAL actions during the experiment. Him making that Megan Fox comment is even funnier now that we know he told her he looks like Christian Mccaffrey. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂😂
@@ca.RICO.le33 Exactly. So glad to see many others are picking up on what a loser and pos he is. It baffles me that people watched this episode and are still faulting Chelsea for everything. Enjoy all the Jimmy’s in your lives ladies, you are about to learn the hard way!🤣🤣💀
Nice to see someone on Chelsea’s side. How awful that Jimmy is trying to be friendly with her to make himself look even better. To look like he likes her despite the flaws the show makes her look like she has
Finally. Someone calling Jimmy out. I thought he was seriously gaslighting Chelsea from the start - hence why she apologized so much and got so much heat as the show aired. Or at least he didn't fully understand all the issues he brought on, was honest about his interest to her and saw how his actions affected her at all. He lacks accountability and seem to have less empathy than what people could really see - it was frustrating that she was labeled "the problem" in the relationship when she was just having good intuition and observations about him from the start (after they met face to face). Not saying he wanted to hurt someone on purpose, but this guy is seriously immature. He couldn't even understand Nick's question about her feelings being justified. Shows alot about his empathy and self-insight. I believe majority of the people bothered by her behavior are avoidants themselves like Jimmy that reacts more to strong emotions than to what the problem really is. Same situation when Jess called him out at the reunion. I've seen that interview myself and he did indeed say that she got a good edit. Same thing about him saying it was a 10 minute convo when indeed it was 2 hours long. I also saw him starting to get angry when Jess got more irritated with him and called him out. This guy has issues taking criticism and it can get very manipulative, either cause he can't take it or cause he doesn't get it.
He’s a moron. Jess got a good edit because she didn’t act like a shady little shit. Jimmy did and he still got the good edit so he needs to stfu. I’m glad so many are seeing him for the lying manipulator that he is. I hope him and Chelsea are reading these comments.
I’m so glad someone is finally bringing up how reemed Chelsea has gotten online compared to how bad she actually was. Yes she was insecure but the internet hated her before that. They hated her as soon as she said “PEOPLE say I LOOK LIKE Megan fox” she never said they were twins or that she thinks she looks like her and anyways she does freaking look like her so all the hate she got for that was so out of line. All the people on the internet DRAGGING her would never be able to switch places with her and take all that hate and still be so full of sunshine like she always has been. Regardless of her annoying insecurities, she seems like the sweetest friend ever and I’d love to have her for a friend. And she’s a heck of a lot stronger than me cause I’d never show my face after getting an edit like that and with all the hate she’s been getting.
It’s funny how he mentioned his very close friend and him were intimate in the past after getting engaged to Chelsea and going on a romantic getaway (after being heavily influenced by Chelsea’s looks). Both things which would have been deal-breakers for a lot of women. His shallowness, dishonesty and cowardice were shown right from the beginning. The same happened the day he cut things off: takes her to the theme park because he wants to live up the experience and then breaks up with her on camera questioning her character. Even the hat he’s wearing is a mockery to the situation, what a guy.
And the way he was flirting with Ad and told. Chelsea AD was stacked 🥴 I mean that alone I would think would make ppl more sympathetic to Chelsea but so many women were not. So weird to me
UNPOPULAR OPINION: Jimmy may not be perfect in having fibbed to get out seeing Chelsea when he was seeking space from her or being hyperaware of being on national TV and therefore not being totally forthright about his feelings BUT he was on national TV after all. The last guy that stated that he wasn't attracted to his partner (Shake) got pummelled by viewers for being so honest so there is no perfect way to toe the line here on a show that mostly has female viewers. His actions are still not proportionate to Chelsea's reaction: her deep insecurities, jealousy, emotional manipulation, whining, and just overall cringey behaviour. I have not seen her take accountability EVEN ONCE about working on her confidence and self respect on any interviews after the show. Why on earth would you want to still marry someone who isn't all in? This couple is just terrible. They need to go their separate ways and stop this back and forth. They are both so concerned about improving their image that they are dragging out this blame game. Move on, please.
I get he’s trying to push his merch but honestly, it’s in bad taste considering the conversation and just goes to show how he doesn’t really respect Chelsea, ever.
It really showed in the reunion when Jess called him out. Jess was more expressive and better at communicating that she wanted him to take accountability for his actions leaving no room for him to run. He felt like he couldn't manipulate the situation. So, you can tell he was worried about his image, so he apologized to jess right after the show. With chelsea she isn't great with expressing her emotions so he ran with it. And, turned it on her, and it took him forever to apologize or get any good complaints about her. It's sad. It giving narcissist. The way chelsea still praises him saying he so, "wonderful"... is feeding his ego. She should just stop the relationship, and be truth with herself he is no good. She will heal faster and become stronger.
I don’t agree that all Jimmy’s words matched his actions because at the end he also told her he loved her and that she was his person, but then said he can’t go down the aisle.
@@i23Za I definitely believe he cared about her too, but he should have not said that especially if he knew he was going to back out. It didn’t make any sense to me.
Jimmy is so unable to own up to when he is wrong its painful to watch. Chelsea is a whole woman for putting up with that and also not giving him the drag he deserves because she knows how the internet will treat him.
They want Chelsea to be the good guy sooooo bad. She intentionally lied about her looks to plant an idea in his head, she lied about another podmate seeing him out on town with both his girl friends and jess. Jimmy is trying his best to give Chelsea grace and they’re taking advantage of that.
The fact that he is saying, yes I lied but only after we had that argument. Like that make the lying valid, tells me all about his character, morality and mindset. 🚩 I think there was a lot of other stuff we didn’t get too see. And I think Chelsea was manipulated and gaslight. And still are to this day. I think she will see it one day soon hopefully.
The point went over your head. He was only saying that there was an isolated incident and hanging on to one example as if it’s indicative of the whole relationship is just not living in reality
Idk about introducing your new fiance you are getting to know to your old fwb who also sat at the table with your fiance repeating “yeah he does cry during sex”.
I agree that Jimmy should have admitted that Chelsea was validated in her feelings of insecurity during their relationship. HOWEVER, at the end of the day Chelsea acted the way she acted on national television. And even though you can definitely be insecure as everyone does have insecurities, Jimmy didn't make her whine about how many times they kissed that day or calling her "clingy" or even screaming to Jimmy about he hooked up one of his girl friends that Chelsea just met. She did that. So when Nick is trying to hold Jimmy's feet to the fire and vindicate Chelsea in her behavior I'm not sure why he has to be accountable for the way she acted (not her insecurities). Also it is clear as day that Chelsea was already an insecure person to begin with and Jimmy's lack of desire to be in that relationship added fuel to the fire. If Chelsea was secure person to begin with, then I truly believe she wouldn't have behaved the way she did on the show. Overall Chelsea 100% deserved better but this plight of trying to vindicate her and have Jimmy take accountability is a little of a stretch for me.
Those of us who have dated Jimmy’s knew Chelsea wasn’t crazy. I could tell the entire time what was truly going on behind the scenes and got harassed all over Tik Tok for standing up for her lol.
Me too lmao I was SO ANGRY that so many people got this wrong. He was gaslighting her the entire season right in front of our faces and I knew it from the moment they met in person it was no good. My own boyfriend knew it too! It amazes me how stupid people really are
Chelsea needs to let that mango, hunni! He's like ill be here for you but dont expose me.. why?? Like she said its her story too! Hood for her for speaking up
Jimmy has tried to silence Chelsea on multiple occasions. First about the girl friend, and now about the pocket call situation. Everything is about *him*. But I don't fault Chelsea for cuddling him. He's so weak 💀 he's holding on to dear life with his lies and contradictions. Jimmy and Chelsea's relationship is a direct representation of heterosexual relationships and why dating ʍɛռ is so hard nowadays. Chelsea is literally bearing the whole emotional weight of the relationship, even 1 year after their break up. God forbid Jimmy would have to deal with his emotions and take accountability for his actions! 💀
Oh and he reminds me of Matt Rife. He wants to make sure that people know he's for the guys. For him to mention that he had the most male friends of all the cast 💀 and to be sad when the pods ʍɛռ hung out without him.... ughhh he's exactly like Matt Rife 😂
For real! Even the women still expect her to take blame and I’m sofa king over this disgusting bs and mindset. Grow up or stay home. No one wants a man baby.
Omg he just called her weak! Wowza! I really judged Chelsea so hard but man after the reunion and this... idk how she even maintain a friendship with him. He is actually the delusional one! He is bringing her down every chance he can get. He thinks his s$#,t dont stink! Smh Wowza he literally lies to himself!!!
The fact that Jimmy is capitalizing on his mistreatment of Chelsea with a "Not willing to take a step back" hat is gross. Also, what kind of an individual "encourages" fights with their SO? It's a no for me.
Chelsea we all been in bad relationships and didn’t realize until after the signs. Next time if he acting Luke warm keeping it moving. People show you who they are by their actions.
Chelsea is not innocent by a long shot. She presented as manic imo. I think this only allowed her to be excused. No, Jimmy isn’t innocent either, but she was not held accountable imo.
Only 54:00 minutes in but I LOVE how Nick asks the questions we all want answers to & doesn’t let BS answers slide or doesn’t let people dance around the answer slide. Thank you Nick & his team 😂
1:21:09 after this interview with Chelsea . I love her. As for me I can see myself in her when you are begging to get the truth and knowing in your gut something is off. Keep shining Chelsea ! Show that beautiful smile
He was constantly comparing himself to the other guys on the show in an attempt to make himself look better. He grossed me out and I don’t understand how so many people fell for his edit. Even with production being on his side I could see he was a lying pos.
He is all over Barb's IG selfies, so he has feelings for that girl, and he gets on the show to get famous. It's so obvious now. he didn’t want Chelsea to say anything because he wanted to portray his image and have control of iy and make her look crazy.
I will say, I don't like that Chelsea waited until Jimmy was off the call to start saying some of these things. Part of the reason I wanted to see this interview is because I thought we would see how they challenged each other's versions face-to-face (respectfully). I am also annoyed with Nick Viall for waiting until Jimmy was off the call to trash him. I don't think Jimmy was an angel. I just think, he was on the call - don't say one thing to his face about the Vegas thing and then say the opposite when he is off!
Why not? Jimmy has been talking shit about both Chelsea and Jess on other shows and playing in their faces and claiming they are friends. Why is it okay for him to do it but not them? Even with Chelsea on the call he was a total 🍆 Fuck that guy.
Yep to all of it. It was interesting how they cut out a lot of Chelsea’s reactions when Jimmy was talking.. to not show how she over reacts and is super emotional, maybe? I think Nick is trying to flip the switch on Jimmy because he feels guilty for making fun of Chelsea, so it’s easier to make it seem like it was Jimmys fault than to straight up apologize
I agree. Jimmy is not entirely to blame. He may not be an angel but I think her insecurities and whininess was what pushed him away and to do the things he did. He owned up to doing it and being checked out- which he tried to tell her he was done in the argument too.
I think it's strange that they're maintaining this "we have an amaing friendship," piece. How could they possibly have an amazing friendship when there's so much unresolved hurt, and lack of honesty surrounding issues in their relationship? I personally don't believe (irregardless if they do) that they are as close. I believe they both take subtle jabs at one another, and I absolutely think it makes sense if Chelsea wanted Jimmy to recieve backslash after all she's been through. I'm also unsettled that this is the way they've chosen to "cover" each other from the hate of world... there's def underlining emotions and feelings that they have not shared with one another or accepted with themselves.
Jimmy has a tough time taking accountability. I struggled with this when my wife and I started dating. I was super avoidant in conflict and then I’d become resentful because I felt like my wife was attempting to control me. So then I’d act out and if it made her insecure I’d look at her like she was crazy and it was her fault. And I could be a pretty spiteful asshole taking inventory of every single moment she could be seen as a hypocrite to use to duck responsibility when she’d bring an issue up In couples counseling I came to understand that our attachment styles put us in a constant power struggle. I had a deep fear of feeling controlled and I wanted my life to stay exactly the same, but with a woman I liked, who took care of me, and didn’t push me in one way or another. I’d say one thing and do another. And felt justified to do so. I can look back now and say that I 100% made my wife look fucking crazy and insecure for two years which I have deep shame every day because I had to repair her image with friends and family and had to fall intensely fall on my sword and admit to the people I loved that I had been treating her like shit behind the scenes. And i went to therapy individually and began rebuilding trust her
Nahh ladies, wrong is wrong. Lindsey is messy - I mean when she snapped on that man about the sandwich…she showed her crazy to the maximum. This season with Carol she’s showing the disrespectful and pitiful behavior that an insecure woman can sometimes display. She needs to work on herself. Leave these men alone. Especially men that aren’t even sober for an entire year when she starts dating them. True definition of a MAN EATER 😬
Jimmy treated Chelsea like crap. His vibe is also borderline sociopathic in this interview. He also admits he lied a bunch and has no remorse. Chelsea deserved better and If I was Chelsea I would not still be friends with him.
I literally ready jimmy the whole season and was the only person that saw him for who he was and was arguing with my friends and I’m glad Chelsea is finally telling her side
The rule is if the engagement is broken the person that bought the ring is entitled to get it back. If the ring is given as a gift like holidays or birthdays then the person gets to keep it
I know he's been awful to her. But at least he owned that and kinda said to her, we've been hard on u on this show. I'm sure she's heard it and he can still commend her now. But ya a little 2 faced for sure
Nick asks way better questions than I see professional “journalists” ask. Chelsea has said in a bunch of interviews they dated for 4 days and no one bothered to ask the details!!
I watched this and saw something completely different... When Jimmy wasn't there, Chelsea talked about how his actions didn't match his words. She said her insecure feelings were valid because of things he was doing... when Jimmy was on the call, he addressed the one incident that she brought up about him lying. He admitted it, explained how he was checked out, and apologized. Then he asked her twice, that I can remember, to tell him specific incidents when h his actions weren't true to his words..and twice she said nothing. I'm on the side of...nomatter what he was doing, if it made her feel not good about herself, If he made her insecure and that she wasn't getting what she was giving. Leave. You know this person, not even a month... Leave. Those breakdowns could only be viewed as a little wacky, provoked or not. With all that said, I think she seems very nice and doesn't deserve all the hate she's getting.
It crazy the different perspectives here. I’ve been watching Dr. Kirk Honda and his perspective on Chelsea is very different than what Nick seams to think. It’s really hard to know when there is so much you don’t see.
It seemed like they didn’t understand what Jimmy was saying about the butt dial. It sounded to me like he was saying, he shouldn’t have lied but that happened /after/ the fight about going out too much that we saw on camera. So when Nick pressed him on Chelsea being justified in that flight about him going out for an hour and a half, it seemed like he was trying to say that she wasn’t justified during that fight and earlier fights, and she can’t justify her distrust then with something that happened later. But he was trying to say it without adding to the internet dog pile. Which is hard, when the question is framed “hey, Jimmy are you going to admit you were an asshole to Chelsea all along, or is she delusional and f***ing crazy?”
He is blaming Chelsea for his behavior. It’s like because you talked on camera about me having sex with my friend that’s why i behaved like an ass the rest of the time we were together
You're acting like being an ass to someone who was just an ass to you is an uncommon occurrence. He admitted it was a bad move to lie so he is taking some responsibility. But yes, she does play a part in his behaviour, as does he in her behaviour.
I don't believe Jimmy wants to be friends with Chelsea genuinely. He just wants to preserve his 'good edit' on the show. And he knows Chelsea will restrain herself from saying the things he did because they're now 'friends'. You can all hear she said she had to apologize to him because she said what he had done.
She is a people pleaser, too empathetic, and me too😔
Yup!
YES! That’s why he claims other ppl got the “good edit”…projecting much? What a phony
Me too I'm now working on keeping boundaries and learning to say no, I'm still failing but have close friend helping me @@Hannahw1
this is so true
Viall holding Jimmy’s feet to the fire is everything I needed at the reunion.
YESSSSSSS THIS MAN DODGED THE HATE AND PROJECTED ON JESS AS IF SHE WAS THE ONE WHO GOT THE “GOOD EDIT” - WHAT A LOSER
I dislike the fact that he’s trying to shush her by staying friends with her. She should be allowed to speak her truth freely without offending his feelings because she shouldn’t get hate for no reason.
You said it!! 👏🏻
The way he’s still manipulating her!!!
That's exactly what he is doing!
Wait which part was he trying to shush her? I feel like people are seeing things that aren’t there.
You guys did a great job of cornering Jimmy! He contradicts himself soooo much, I totally understand why Chelsea would be so confused! Chelsea, if you're reading this, I hope you can cut this relationship off and move on. You can't be friends with someone who doesn't respect you. Jimmy says a lot of things everyone wants to hear even now! And Chelsea is still falling for it. She def rather believe her delusions than real life. I don't think they're bad people but they have a lot of stuff to work on - Jimmy on his communication skills for sure and Chelsea should stop trying to be a "chill girl"! They both have very different realities of the events that occurred. They need to both have boundaries, cut each other out and move on with their lives. Wish them healing!
JIMMY IS TOM SANDY just are a slightly smaller scale!!! When he was talking all I could think of was TOM the WHOLE time!!! SMH like DUDE ur saying the same shit over and over and just going around in circles and ITS ANNOYING u cant admit when ur wrong!!!!
Well said! No point of them staying friends. She is trying to protect him but he is not trying to protect her!
EXACTLY!!! They say a lot of words! "I love him" "I respect her" blah blah... She needs to respect herself enough to realize she doesn't have to be on good terms with an ex. She is still clearly hurt from his actions but she's acting like his saviour? Like wtf. So many of us women do this! Over empathizing for OTHER people when you should give yourself some grace! Sometimes you need to cut people out so better people who are more aligned with you have space in your life. You hear that Jimmy? Stop being so close with exes or people you've hooked up with JEEZ@@amandar8699
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Jimmy has tried to silence Chelsea on multiple occasions. First about the girl friend, and now about the pocket call situation. Everything is about *him*. But I don't fault Chelsea for cuddling him. He's so weak 💀 he's holding on to dear life with his lies and contradictions. Jimmy and Chelsea's relationship is a direct representation of heterosexual relationships and why dating ʍɛռ is so hard nowadays. Chelsea is literally bearing the whole emotional weight of the relationship, even 1 year after their break up. God forbid Jimmy would have to deal with his emotions and take accountability for his actions! 💀
I’m glad you guys gave Chelsea a safe place to land. She deserved to have the chance to defend herself and you gave her that chance.
She is so delusional what are you talking about lol she doesn't admit or take any responsibility for her extreme toxicity.
She was delusional, manipulative, and sneaky since in the pod 😂
Listen, after him saying he spoke to Jess for 10 mins and she ran out & they rolled the tapes back and it was HOURS they were speaking, he’s memory is clearly distorted 🌚 so I wouldn’t believe him tbh
He’s just not honest.
He never was.
Even on the show it was obvious that he was constantly lying.
Exactly!!!!😂😂
Oh his comment on the reunion - I said I'd give you 45 minutes, I still know it was 10 minutes made my eyes roll back so far back.
Not just that but he told her he wanted to cut back on s*x with her and then denied that on camera!! He’s such a liar, makes me re think every fight they ever had!
THIS is the real reunion. Thank you
OH MY GODDDD when Jimmy was explaining that he wasn’t going to slow down his friendships with the girls and Nick said “okay so what you’re saying is you’d stop being friends with them for someone else just not for Chelsea even though you were going to get married” 😅😅😅😅 totally changed my perspective on Jimmy and Chelsea. I’m sorry Chelsea 😔 girl you were done DIRTY
Right.... the word salad out of Jimmy's mouth lol 😅
Jimmy was definitely never sincere about his feelings towards Chelsea and deep down his actions and words definitely portrayed his feelings. Also, him choosing his friends over the woman he “loved” and wanted to marry doesn’t make sense. Eventually when people decide to get married their person comes first and friends are no longer the priority. Jimmy basically used the FRIENDs secret as his excuse and it definitely worked out for him. Just tell me why his bestie is now promoting their merch👀
I disagree with that assessment, I think if Chelsea had went about it completely differently he would have done it for her, but after that fight he wasn't and he was already a no so they weren't going to get married so why step back for someone he knew he wasn't going to marry.
Not Jimmy saying he isn’t a party guy and doesn’t want to be portrayed as such because his mom will see it but yet his actions are the opposite of his words 🙃 I feel like this man does whatever he wants and then bats his eyes to the people he manipulates like please don’t tell anyone who I really am 😢
Nick we love you 😂 thank you for trying so hard to put Jimmy in his place. He is so full of word salads LOL
Word salads 💀
Jimmy is a moron and the more he talks, the worse he looks.
He really tried to throw Chelsea under the bus here.
He’s the Tom Shorts of LIB.🤮
I'm sorry, but I would never feel comfortable with my boyfriend being friends with a woman he has been intimate with in the past. And if my partner couldn't respect that boundary, and gaslit me to think I was insecure in enforcing it, I'd leave immediately.
Not only that but she clearly was territorial and making uncomfortable comments about sex wirh Jimmy. Clearly she wouldn't have Chelsea's best interest at heart
I would be weird about it too but it’s wild to me that one of the first people chelsea FaceTimed when she got her phone back was an ex. Who also is expecting a child? Like how is that better? She even said she wanted them to meet. I just think it’s such a double standard.
She is best friends with her ex. So they didnt just fuck once. She is a complete hypocrite.
@@MB11023 Oo can you share more details about what kind of uncomfortable comments she was making?
@@vanessahobbes3072she let him know she was engaged. He’s married. She didn’t go out drinking with him. I think that’s the big differences.
I hate when guys say “I know where she’s coming from” and say nothing that correlates with where she was coming from
Buahahahaha SO TRUE, thank you for this comment. It's all just empty platitudes with this dude, nothing behind it.
Lmfaooooo 📠
Don’t think he cares about Chelsey for a sec.. He wanted to be a famous party boy and doesn’t want to look bad to everyone.
Exactly! I bet he'll be on Love Island or something like that soon.
He failed.
He got a good edit but I still hated him on the show.
Even with them not showing most of his dirty deeds, I could still see how he was not treating Chelsea right and I did not like him.
He’s a coward.
Jimmy dodging any accountability like 🤸🏃
Talking like a politician. No straight answers lol
@@sobiaehsan1857I actually thought he was pretty straight forward. He asked for specific things he did prior to butt dial and she couldn’t produce one example. He asked multiple times. She just says things like “ all the girls knew”. Well all the girls heard your version just like the girls on Zanab’s season thought Cole asked her not to eat cuties because of their calories.
@jolieluc It feels like Chelsea is desperate to hold onto Jimmy even as a "friend" so she's being careful with specifics she shares out of fear that he'll cut her off again. Chelsea just seems sooo desperate it's cringe to see.
@@sobiaehsan1857 Eh. She didn’t care to bring up the friend, then apologized afterwards. Now she didn’t care to bring up the butt dial, only to “apologize” after that too. She’s willing to talk but she wants to keep her persona up too.
@@sobiaehsan1857No I actually feel like she's staying friends with him because she knows he can't handle the heat. She's still cuddling him 1 year after the break up. He's friends with her because he's trying to control the narrative.
Good job of making us remember how Jimmy was obsessed with appearing to be the best couple. He was image driven. While Chelsea was showing the bad and good.
Boy that guy Jimmy just REFUSES to answer Nicks question
What I really appreciate about the Nick Viall Files, is that Nick knows these reality stars personally & wants to continue having them on their show while simultaneously giving honest opinions about them even if not in the best light! As a viewer, that is SO valued & so appreciated! 👏
Exactly what I was about to say but couldn't have said it better!!! I really love the accountability he brings to reality tv.
He doesn’t know them personally.
Jimmy would seem cool as a friend but not boyfriend or husband material right now lol the guy does not take ownership for much. And he gives me the vibe he’s definitely still hooking up with his “girl, friends” Chelsea is a sweetheart hope she finds the right person for her
She became one of his gfs sadly and I could see him being rude and dismissive to anyone close to him
You will never see Chelsea in a long-term healthy relationship
See you back here in ten / 15 years
@@007nadineL huh???
Jimmy is the type of person to say “ I’m sorry but…”
I said he is the Tom Sandoval of LIB.
I like the interviews, I really do .... however ... I would love for Nick to ask the questions one at a time instead of answering the question on their behalf and then asking a second and third question in the same paragraph of run on sentences, it drives me nuts 😂❤
riiight?! It’s actually unbearable, I hear so many words with so few points made 💀
Agreed. All the time
Yes he gives them the bait instead of letting them find it. And sometimes I forget the first question cause there's so many 😅
He talks about his ADHD and dyslexia. I think this is how he processes information.
I think when Nick asks a question in a long sentence, he’s giving extra context which helps the guest feel more comfortable in answering. 😊
My perspective on Chelsea and Jimmy has completely changed. He takes no accountability I’ve never seen someone dodge a question so hard... wowww come on Jimmy. Spot on Nick, Jimmy doesn’t wanna let go of his “hero” edit.
Probably because he’s not completely at fault like Chelsea is making it seem. She totally was whiny and clingy and it kept pushing him away. I really don’t think it was all THAT edited in his favor.
what does he need to take accountability for ?
I was a Chelsea hater this whole time she did a ton of outrageous things But him telling her a secret that impacts there future off camera and expecting her to be okay with that and not address it on camera was unfair. Also the fact that she was justified in thinking her wasn’t that into her because he wasn’t… but acting as he’s totally into her and her thinking that or being insecure about they’re relationship is all in her head when clearly it was not… she just responded to it so badly that it negated the things he was doing to contribute to why she was feeling the way she was she blew it way out of proportion and handled the arguments terribly and so all we saw was the negative Chelsea moments but let’s be real if she would have addressed the things she was seeing in Jimmy not feeling the relationship in a healthy way I think we’d all be siding with her because she has a point but because her insecurities took over her rational thinking we lo hate Chelsea and forget that Jimmy did things to make her feel this way like they’re only filming for 4 hours a day and he was gone the rest of the day and didn’t want much to do with her even during the 4 hours of filming.. he should have kept it real with Chelsea and told her about his doubts and that he wasn’t attracted to her but instead he wanted to be in love is blind and the least he could do is admit that she wasn’t completely insane for thinking that he wasn’t completely feeling it but instead he’s loving his hero edit and okay with Chelsea looking completely nuts to the public. Chelsea is very much responsible but so is he and he can’t even admit that he’s the tiniest bit responsible for their narrative…
And we’ll never know what he really thought, cause he’s never actually been genuine
Jimmy is conflict avoidant. That is evident in his dealings with Chelsea. If he wasn’t he would have broken up with her in the beginning. However, I hope Chelsea learns to listen to her gut because I’m convinced that while Jimmy likely played into her insecurities Chelsea knew from day one that he wasn’t as into her as she was into him. That dynamic created a needy, whiney, unhealthy version of herself. She should have been her own advocate and broken up with him.The fact that she would have married him and still wants to be friends with him to me is absolutely WILD. What has he done to earn her friendship? He can’t even say that he contributed to her insecure feelings. Find a secure man Chelsea. This ain’t it!
Yesss this is spot on
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I think he stayed with her for so long to become more famous but this could also be the case.
All on point! He was there for the fame. Period.
Jimmy is avoidant and Chelsea is anxious attachment type so it’s a recipe for disaster and for a tv show, the anxious type will look annoying on camera
Jimmy can’t stay on topic or answer a question directly to save his LIFE. Painful to listen to his answers. I’m so glad Nick is so blunt and redirects lol.
He’s too focused on trying to make Chelsea look like the AH.
Not the hat Jimmy is wearing 😂
Right 😂😂😂
I came down to the comments to see if anyone else was like “no way with this hat rn 👀” lol
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The way my jaw dropped!
Jimmy: "I'm a 100% willing to take a step back."
His hat: 👀
I still don’t understand why nobody asked why they got zero air time on the reunion to address everything????
She said on her IG that it's because they got so much airtime on the show and on social media that they wanted to give the other couples the spotlight
I also think the show clearly manufactured a storyline that wasn’t true and if they gave them time to speak the stories would contradict so they choose not to.
Why is no one asking Chelsea the right questions, is no one going to ask her if McKenzie really told her she saw Jimmy out and that he was with Jess, or why she kept saying he never kissed her. Also why is Nick trying to make it seem like Chelsea did NOTHING wrong and let’s just blame the editors 100% of the way
This! I also wondered why she didn't bring up the butt dial and why she agreed that he was only out for an hour and a half? Once again she's lying saying it was the same night and not after they had their big blowout. Why did she agree he didn't retreat to his townhouse when he supposedly did and went out with his friends? She definitely didn't care about bringing up him screwing his friend, not once but twice. Or the AD situation when she broke down crying about not getting enough attention, then trying to manipulate him into feeling bad and give her more affection. Chelsea is super manipulative and she's trying to convince us that her behavior is justified.
Where did you hear this?
They definitely pandered to her
@@pryncessdi9358 She literally argued about Jimmy going to his friends birthday for 3 hours when he invited her to go with him and then it came out that she was drunk during that argument, so let’s not act like just bc she’s handling the criticism well it now means she didn’t deserve any. Nick keeps talking about Jimmy doing things that weren’t shown that caused her to act insecure, what were those things and how do you know that Nick?
Plus why are we forgetting that Jimmy was the villain and got a lot of backlash especially when he was in the pods. Why are we trying to make it look like he got a wonderful edit? People just stopped focusing on his actions bc Chelsea’s behavior was more extreme
Not Jimmy wearing a hat with his own quote on it hahaha 🤣
Yeah wtf is that?!? 😅
Embarrassing
Kinda icks me out the way Nick mocked and made fun of Chelsea in previous episodes and then has her on like this. Like at least apologize and be real about his thoughts on her.
He did apologize and acknowledged the shit he talked about her.
Guess you missed that part.
@@AmandaJohn-k5m I mean he acknowledged it, but he by no means apologize for it at all.
All he has done is post himself partying 😂. Jimmy is a party animal 🎉
I was thinking the same thing
He’s a single guy riding this 15 min wave. I go out once a year but would be going out nonstop in this situation.
Oh boy... I've dated a "Jimmy"... I think we all have. Chelsea, don't walk... run! He ain't it. This friendship isn't worth it.
Chelsea why are you still friends with this guy ? He does not like you
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The fact that he cannot even admit to a tiny little bit of fault to support his “friend” Chelsea says it all. Nick offered many chances but each time he wanted to save face. He is trying to keep Chelsea around to maintain his image until the momentum dies down… I hope Chelsea continues to share her experience and takes a step back from him. Regardless I wish them both the best🤍
From what was seen, I saw Chelsea as a girl that didn’t feel loved by him and needed more, and that’s fair. It seems he doesn’t want to admit the truth even after this long. His faces and way of talking show this. Chelsea forget this guy, even as a friend!
I think it’s telling Jimmy is continuously defending his actions and talking non-stop while Chelsea just can’t get a word in. Like he obviously cares more about his reputation more than Chelsea.
Also wild that she apologizes TO Jimmy about telling the truth that he lied to her and butt dialed her and she found out. And then he doesn’t apologize to her, he just defends himself.
Ofcourse. Hes selfish
@@FloatingInSpace5702it’s bizarre. I honestly believe there’s more he did that she’s not saying because they’re “friends”. Jimmy is only friends for selfish reasons
HE is the manipulator and gaslighter . Can’t believe people really think Chelsea was the one in the wrong
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Jimmy should be thanking Trevor, Jeramy and Clay for taking the heat off him. And the production for giving him a great edit.
Yes, he got away with it too. He is keeping Chelsea around as a friend so she doesn’t say what really went down.
Chelsea you don’t owe this man any privacy. He willingly went on televised experiment. You speak your truth and please don’t try to convince yourself that this was a real friendship. You are beautiful and deserve a man who will worship you! ❤
Jimmy knew he had this interview scheduled and takes the call from a bar?
And yet he is still defending himself that he doesn’t go out a lot.
Also, Jimmy takes advantage of Chelsea’s insecurities and turns things around on her. She apologizes for voicing her opinion and feeling bad for the way he is treating her. That is toxic.
Agree with all the comments that Jimmy is trying to publicly save face.
Jimmy talks in circles and cares MOST about how he is perceived, notice me mentioned his Mama. I believe Chelsea lol.
I loved this for him because it really showed his true colours.
Not that I once thought he was a good guy off the show alone but they made it all look like it was all Chelsea’s fault.
I agree! And at first, i admit, I did believe that Chelsea was giving him a hard time. However- the more interviews that come out, the more we’re starting to see his true colors. And SO many things from the show came back to mind to prove Chelsea isn’t the (sole) problem. Could she have handled certain things better? sure. But being gaslit will literally make anyone feel/act crazy. Especially when it’s coming from a person you care about and trust. JIMMY IS IMAGE DRIVEN!! how many times on the show did he get legitimately upset with Chelsea for saying Amy and Johnny are the best couple? 🥴 he was SO upset over that. 🚩 such a childish thing to throw a tantrum over… and now he can’t even give Chelsea the same respect of having her back, when she’s clearly had his the entire time, and continues to do so even after HE continuously REFUSES to take accountability for his REAL actions during the experiment.
Him making that Megan Fox comment is even funnier now that we know he told her he looks like Christian Mccaffrey. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂😂
@@ca.RICO.le33 Exactly.
So glad to see many others are picking up on what a loser and pos he is.
It baffles me that people watched this episode and are still faulting Chelsea for everything.
Enjoy all the Jimmy’s in your lives ladies, you are about to learn the hard way!🤣🤣💀
Nice to see someone on Chelsea’s side. How awful that Jimmy is trying to be friendly with her to make himself look even better. To look like he likes her despite the flaws the show makes her look like she has
Homeboy takes zero accountability - solid job on Nick for holding him to the fire on that. Holy defensive!
Chelsea needs to watch Dr. Kirk Honda's take from Psychology in Seattle .. 🙏🏾
I have not liked Chelsea until seeing this interview. Thank you Nick for giving her this opportunity its well deserved❤
Finally. Someone calling Jimmy out. I thought he was seriously gaslighting Chelsea from the start - hence why she apologized so much and got so much heat as the show aired. Or at least he didn't fully understand all the issues he brought on, was honest about his interest to her and saw how his actions affected her at all. He lacks accountability and seem to have less empathy than what people could really see - it was frustrating that she was labeled "the problem" in the relationship when she was just having good intuition and observations about him from the start (after they met face to face). Not saying he wanted to hurt someone on purpose, but this guy is seriously immature. He couldn't even understand Nick's question about her feelings being justified. Shows alot about his empathy and self-insight. I believe majority of the people bothered by her behavior are avoidants themselves like Jimmy that reacts more to strong emotions than to what the problem really is.
Same situation when Jess called him out at the reunion. I've seen that interview myself and he did indeed say that she got a good edit. Same thing about him saying it was a 10 minute convo when indeed it was 2 hours long. I also saw him starting to get angry when Jess got more irritated with him and called him out. This guy has issues taking criticism and it can get very manipulative, either cause he can't take it or cause he doesn't get it.
He’s a moron.
Jess got a good edit because she didn’t act like a shady little shit.
Jimmy did and he still got the good edit so he needs to stfu.
I’m glad so many are seeing him for the lying manipulator that he is.
I hope him and Chelsea are reading these comments.
I’m so glad someone is finally bringing up how reemed Chelsea has gotten online compared to how bad she actually was. Yes she was insecure but the internet hated her before that. They hated her as soon as she said “PEOPLE say I LOOK LIKE Megan fox” she never said they were twins or that she thinks she looks like her and anyways she does freaking look like her so all the hate she got for that was so out of line. All the people on the internet DRAGGING her would never be able to switch places with her and take all that hate and still be so full of sunshine like she always has been. Regardless of her annoying insecurities, she seems like the sweetest friend ever and I’d love to have her for a friend. And she’s a heck of a lot stronger than me cause I’d never show my face after getting an edit like that and with all the hate she’s been getting.
Nobody likes a catfisher
It’s funny how he mentioned his very close friend and him were intimate in the past after getting engaged to Chelsea and going on a romantic getaway (after being heavily influenced by Chelsea’s looks). Both things which would have been deal-breakers for a lot of women. His shallowness, dishonesty and cowardice were shown right from the beginning. The same happened the day he cut things off: takes her to the theme park because he wants to live up the experience and then breaks up with her on camera questioning her character. Even the hat he’s wearing is a mockery to the situation, what a guy.
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And the way he was flirting with Ad and told. Chelsea AD was stacked 🥴 I mean that alone I would think would make ppl more sympathetic to Chelsea but so many women were not. So weird to me
Lmao hes being so avoidant when it came to the question nick asked about if chelsea is rlly DELULU…
Jimmy loves a good word salad lol
Word salad gaslighting king. Evading the question king
Did anyone else notice that Jimmy said, “I wasn’t having a physical relationship with THEM”?? Did he sleep with BOTH of those women at some point?
Ha I caught that too and I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s a scumbag.
UNPOPULAR OPINION: Jimmy may not be perfect in having fibbed to get out seeing Chelsea when he was seeking space from her or being hyperaware of being on national TV and therefore not being totally forthright about his feelings BUT he was on national TV after all. The last guy that stated that he wasn't attracted to his partner (Shake) got pummelled by viewers for being so honest so there is no perfect way to toe the line here on a show that mostly has female viewers.
His actions are still not proportionate to Chelsea's reaction: her deep insecurities, jealousy, emotional manipulation, whining, and just overall cringey behaviour. I have not seen her take accountability EVEN ONCE about working on her confidence and self respect on any interviews after the show. Why on earth would you want to still marry someone who isn't all in?
This couple is just terrible. They need to go their separate ways and stop this back and forth. They are both so concerned about improving their image that they are dragging out this blame game. Move on, please.
Great comment
Thx.
@@007nadineLthanks!! :)
I get he’s trying to push his merch but honestly, it’s in bad taste considering the conversation and just goes to show how he doesn’t really respect Chelsea, ever.
According to Reddit, chelsea also has her own merch. I only just saw that on Reddit so I don’t know if it’s true, but seems like it is.
It really showed in the reunion when Jess called him out. Jess was more expressive and better at communicating that she wanted him to take accountability for his actions leaving no room for him to run. He felt like he couldn't manipulate the situation. So, you can tell he was worried about his image, so he apologized to jess right after the show. With chelsea she isn't great with expressing her emotions so he ran with it. And, turned it on her, and it took him forever to apologize or get any good complaints about her. It's sad. It giving narcissist. The way chelsea still praises him saying he so, "wonderful"... is feeding his ego. She should just stop the relationship, and be truth with herself he is no good. She will heal faster and become stronger.
I don’t agree that all Jimmy’s words matched his actions because at the end he also told her he loved her and that she was his person, but then said he can’t go down the aisle.
Not at that moment. That doesn't mean he didn't care for her
@@i23Za I definitely believe he cared about her too, but he should have not said that especially if he knew he was going to back out. It didn’t make any sense to me.
EXACTLY
Jimmy is so unable to own up to when he is wrong its painful to watch. Chelsea is a whole woman for putting up with that and also not giving him the drag he deserves because she knows how the internet will treat him.
Chelsea and Jimmy, wow, and they still hang out…Why….Is this like Bartise and Nancy???
I doubt they'll stay friends. I think it's a situational friendship through shared trauma. Ha!
Jimmy the real villain. Dude IS a party boy. He just didn’t want it on tv bc his mommy might see it 🙄🙄
At the lake jimmy said to Jess “you’re my number 1” and NO ONW has talked about it I’m going to jump
Off a bridge from this fact
Yaa I think he actually said in reality your still my number one - which is more alarming
They want Chelsea to be the good guy sooooo bad. She intentionally lied about her looks to plant an idea in his head, she lied about another podmate seeing him out on town with both his girl friends and jess. Jimmy is trying his best to give Chelsea grace and they’re taking advantage of that.
Thank you!!! She lied and of course she knew what she was doing!!!!
YASH
YES
YES
The fact that he is saying, yes I lied but only after we had that argument. Like that make the lying valid, tells me all about his character, morality and mindset. 🚩 I think there was a lot of other stuff we didn’t get too see. And I think Chelsea was manipulated and gaslight. And still are to this day. I think she will see it one day soon hopefully.
The point went over your head. He was only saying that there was an isolated incident and hanging on to one example as if it’s indicative of the whole relationship is just not living in reality
Idk about introducing your new fiance you are getting to know to your old fwb who also sat at the table with your fiance repeating “yeah he does cry during sex”.
That was so weird!
I agree that Jimmy should have admitted that Chelsea was validated in her feelings of insecurity during their relationship. HOWEVER, at the end of the day Chelsea acted the way she acted on national television. And even though you can definitely be insecure as everyone does have insecurities, Jimmy didn't make her whine about how many times they kissed that day or calling her "clingy" or even screaming to Jimmy about he hooked up one of his girl friends that Chelsea just met. She did that. So when Nick is trying to hold Jimmy's feet to the fire and vindicate Chelsea in her behavior I'm not sure why he has to be accountable for the way she acted (not her insecurities). Also it is clear as day that Chelsea was already an insecure person to begin with and Jimmy's lack of desire to be in that relationship added fuel to the fire. If Chelsea was secure person to begin with, then I truly believe she wouldn't have behaved the way she did on the show. Overall Chelsea 100% deserved better but this plight of trying to vindicate her and have Jimmy take accountability is a little of a stretch for me.
Best comment here.
This is why I hope nick doesn't become a therapist.
He should stop giving out bad therapy
Those of us who have dated Jimmy’s knew Chelsea wasn’t crazy. I could tell the entire time what was truly going on behind the scenes and got harassed all over Tik Tok for standing up for her lol.
Me too lmao I was SO ANGRY that so many people got this wrong. He was gaslighting her the entire season right in front of our faces and I knew it from the moment they met in person it was no good. My own boyfriend knew it too! It amazes me how stupid people really are
She's a delulu catfisher
Jimmy at least tried to make it work nicely the best he could
Chelsea needs to let that mango, hunni! He's like ill be here for you but dont expose me.. why?? Like she said its her story too! Hood for her for speaking up
jimmy is answering questions without actually answering the question
Makes more sense why Chelsea was going crazy, she probably felt like she was going in circles talking to him.🗣️
"I dOnT tHiNk ChElSea DeSeRvEs aLl tHiS hEaaaaaaaaaaaTTT"
*proceeds to let Chelsea take all the heat*
Jimmy has tried to silence Chelsea on multiple occasions. First about the girl friend, and now about the pocket call situation. Everything is about *him*. But I don't fault Chelsea for cuddling him. He's so weak 💀 he's holding on to dear life with his lies and contradictions. Jimmy and Chelsea's relationship is a direct representation of heterosexual relationships and why dating ʍɛռ is so hard nowadays. Chelsea is literally bearing the whole emotional weight of the relationship, even 1 year after their break up. God forbid Jimmy would have to deal with his emotions and take accountability for his actions! 💀
Oh and he reminds me of Matt Rife. He wants to make sure that people know he's for the guys. For him to mention that he had the most male friends of all the cast 💀 and to be sad when the pods ʍɛռ hung out without him.... ughhh he's exactly like Matt Rife 😂
For real!
Even the women still expect her to take blame and I’m sofa king over this disgusting bs and mindset.
Grow up or stay home.
No one wants a man baby.
Omg he just called her weak! Wowza! I really judged Chelsea so hard but man after the reunion and this... idk how she even maintain a friendship with him. He is actually the delusional one! He is bringing her down every chance he can get. He thinks his s$#,t dont stink! Smh Wowza he literally lies to himself!!!
He is truly a sad little man.
The fact that Jimmy is capitalizing on his mistreatment of Chelsea with a "Not willing to take a step back" hat is gross. Also, what kind of an individual "encourages" fights with their SO? It's a no for me.
Same.
Jimmy is a loser and I feel sorry for whoever is stupid enough to even date him, nvm marry him.
Not the hat.
This was the closure we needed and didn’t get from the reunion.
Chelsea takes ZERO ownership of her behavior. None. I'm glad she's being forced to address it in front of the world.
Chelsea we all been in bad relationships and didn’t realize until after the signs. Next time if he acting Luke warm keeping it moving. People show you who they are by their actions.
Thank you
Truth
The way I felt in the beginning was right.. Jimmy was 🚩🚩
Chelsea is not innocent by a long shot. She presented as manic imo. I think this only allowed her to be excused. No, Jimmy isn’t innocent either, but she was not held accountable imo.
Only 54:00 minutes in but I LOVE how Nick asks the questions we all want answers to & doesn’t let BS answers slide or doesn’t let people dance around the answer slide. Thank you Nick & his team 😂
1:21:09 after this interview with Chelsea . I love her. As for me I can see myself in her when you are begging to get the truth and knowing in your gut something is off. Keep shining Chelsea ! Show that beautiful smile
This dude is not Chelsea's friend. The amount of gaslighting is insane. Run Chelsea!
One of my favorite parts about watching the bachelor is watching the viall files recap of it! Sad it’s not on this episode.
“I had the most _____ of anyone on the show” - Jimmy
He was constantly comparing himself to the other guys on the show in an attempt to make himself look better.
He grossed me out and I don’t understand how so many people fell for his edit.
Even with production being on his side I could see he was a lying pos.
He is all over Barb's IG selfies, so he has feelings for that girl, and he gets on the show to get famous. It's so obvious now. he didn’t want Chelsea to say anything because he wanted to portray his image and have control of iy and make her look crazy.
And now he is publicly saying he'd date AD. Chelsea's own friend 🥴🥴🥴😂
There is also a pic of her wearing this exact same hat he has on. I think she is there with him and who he keeps looking at.
Who is Barb?
@@candy07831 the friend people speculate he slept with. The one that appeared on the show.
I'm very disappointed in this guy! So Barb had that hat on?
I will say, I don't like that Chelsea waited until Jimmy was off the call to start saying some of these things. Part of the reason I wanted to see this interview is because I thought we would see how they challenged each other's versions face-to-face (respectfully). I am also annoyed with Nick Viall for waiting until Jimmy was off the call to trash him. I don't think Jimmy was an angel. I just think, he was on the call - don't say one thing to his face about the Vegas thing and then say the opposite when he is off!
Why not?
Jimmy has been talking shit about both Chelsea and Jess on other shows and playing in their faces and claiming they are friends.
Why is it okay for him to do it but not them?
Even with Chelsea on the call he was a total 🍆
Fuck that guy.
Yep to all of it. It was interesting how they cut out a lot of Chelsea’s reactions when Jimmy was talking.. to not show how she over reacts and is super emotional, maybe? I think Nick is trying to flip the switch on Jimmy because he feels guilty for making fun of Chelsea, so it’s easier to make it seem like it was Jimmys fault than to straight up apologize
Bingo
Nick is hammering Jimmy to take responsibility for Chelsea's insecurities and that's not fair to either of them that's why Jimmy didn't bite.
Wow. That went way over your head.
Enjoy your life full of Jimmy’s.
I can’t believe you fell for his bs.😭😭💀
I agree. Jimmy is not entirely to blame. He may not be an angel but I think her insecurities and whininess was what pushed him away and to do the things he did. He owned up to doing it and being checked out- which he tried to tell her he was done in the argument too.
Great comment
Thx.
I think it's strange that they're maintaining this "we have an amaing friendship," piece. How could they possibly have an amazing friendship when there's so much unresolved hurt, and lack of honesty surrounding issues in their relationship? I personally don't believe (irregardless if they do) that they are as close. I believe they both take subtle jabs at one another, and I absolutely think it makes sense if Chelsea wanted Jimmy to recieve backslash after all she's been through. I'm also unsettled that this is the way they've chosen to "cover" each other from the hate of world... there's def underlining emotions and feelings that they have not shared with one another or accepted with themselves.
Jimmy has a tough time taking accountability. I struggled with this when my wife and I started dating. I was super avoidant in conflict and then I’d become resentful because I felt like my wife was attempting to control me. So then I’d act out and if it made her insecure I’d look at her like she was crazy and it was her fault. And I could be a pretty spiteful asshole taking inventory of every single moment she could be seen as a hypocrite to use to duck responsibility when she’d bring an issue up
In couples counseling I came to understand that our attachment styles put us in a constant power struggle. I had a deep fear of feeling controlled and I wanted my life to stay exactly the same, but with a woman I liked, who took care of me, and didn’t push me in one way or another. I’d say one thing and do another. And felt justified to do so. I can look back now and say that I 100% made my wife look fucking crazy and insecure for two years which I have deep shame every day because I had to repair her image with friends and family and had to fall intensely fall on my sword and admit to the people I loved that I had been treating her like shit behind the scenes. And i went to therapy individually and began rebuilding trust her
OMG You gave us the reunion we needed!!!
Nahh ladies, wrong is wrong. Lindsey is messy - I mean when she snapped on that man about the sandwich…she showed her crazy to the maximum. This season with Carol she’s showing the disrespectful and pitiful behavior that an insecure woman can sometimes display. She needs to work on herself. Leave these men alone. Especially men that aren’t even sober for an entire year when she starts dating them. True definition of a MAN EATER 😬
Jimmy treated Chelsea like crap. His vibe is also borderline sociopathic in this interview. He also admits he lied a bunch and has no remorse. Chelsea deserved better and If I was Chelsea I would not still be friends with him.
I literally ready jimmy the whole season and was the only person that saw him for who he was and was arguing with my friends and I’m glad Chelsea is finally telling her side
Dude same! Jimmy was a snake from the get go!
The rule is if the engagement is broken the person that bought the ring is entitled to get it back. If the ring is given as a gift like holidays or birthdays then the person gets to keep it
Nick is so two faced with chelsea
I know he's been awful to her. But at least he owned that and kinda said to her, we've been hard on u on this show. I'm sure she's heard it and he can still commend her now. But ya a little 2 faced for sure
He is literally giving her a redemption arc with this episode - I appreciate him for keeping it real
I think he knows there is more to the story/the way she appeared on the show.
But he also lied to himself.
He tried to love her but his instincts won out at the end.
He was never that into her.
Chelsea seems so sincere 🥺. She deserves the world!
Jimmy is just talking around the question not wanting to give a straight answer. How infuriating lol.
I don't see how she can still be friends with him, he's there for his image
Nick asks way better questions than I see professional “journalists” ask. Chelsea has said in a bunch of interviews they dated for 4 days and no one bothered to ask the details!!
im so grossed out that he's wearing that hat while in this interview
I watched this and saw something completely different... When Jimmy wasn't there, Chelsea talked about how his actions didn't match his words. She said her insecure feelings were valid because of things he was doing... when Jimmy was on the call, he addressed the one incident that she brought up about him lying. He admitted it, explained how he was checked out, and apologized. Then he asked her twice, that I can remember, to tell him specific incidents when h his actions weren't true to his words..and twice she said nothing. I'm on the side of...nomatter what he was doing, if it made her feel not good about herself, If he made her insecure and that she wasn't getting what she was giving. Leave. You know this person, not even a month... Leave. Those breakdowns could only be viewed as a little wacky, provoked or not. With all that said, I think she seems very nice and doesn't deserve all the hate she's getting.
Great comment
Nick is out to lunch re his slant against Jimmy
It crazy the different perspectives here. I’ve been watching Dr. Kirk Honda and his perspective on Chelsea is very different than what Nick seams to think. It’s really hard to know when there is so much you don’t see.
Chelsea is too nice he is not taking any accountability for his actions. Thank you Nick for asking the questions we all wanted to
Jimmy avoids every question 😭
It seemed like they didn’t understand what Jimmy was saying about the butt dial. It sounded to me like he was saying, he shouldn’t have lied but that happened /after/ the fight about going out too much that we saw on camera. So when Nick pressed him on Chelsea being justified in that flight about him going out for an hour and a half, it seemed like he was trying to say that she wasn’t justified during that fight and earlier fights, and she can’t justify her distrust then with something that happened later. But he was trying to say it without adding to the internet dog pile. Which is hard, when the question is framed “hey, Jimmy are you going to admit you were an asshole to Chelsea all along, or is she delusional and f***ing crazy?”
He is blaming Chelsea for his behavior. It’s like because you talked on camera about me having sex with my friend that’s why i behaved like an ass the rest of the time we were together
You're acting like being an ass to someone who was just an ass to you is an uncommon occurrence. He admitted it was a bad move to lie so he is taking some responsibility. But yes, she does play a part in his behaviour, as does he in her behaviour.
The more interviews Chelsea does the more I like her! She holds herself so well!!!