Lady should go back and demand every dime back. She’s entitled to her money back and probably doesn’t even realize it. They’re also buying that new sensor or I’m dragging their sorry ass into a courtroom!
"when i leave work, works over" words we should live by, Mr O has sage advice not just for mechanics. I started as a mechanic 45 years ago, but found out working on other folks cars was less fun than my own.
The split intake boot caught me on a 2006 Accord. It was cracked on the bottom just after the MAP in the corrugated area so I didn’t see it on a visual. When I took it off to clean the throttle body it split in half. Replacement did wonders for the fuel trims.
"When I leave work, work is over" AMEN! It's easy to forget that when you're an upstanding citizen and business owner. Have a good weekend South Main Crew
I fell into that trap at a couple of previous jobs...vowed I would never do that again....I don't answer calls from work when I'm off, and on my days off anymore....they had 5 8+ hour days of me being there, that is far more than enough...they have plenty of other people there that can do the same stuff I do, there's no reason for me to be working when I'm not there, and certainly when I'm not being paid for it.
A number or years ago I had my 4WD Bronco II in the shop on a day when it was snowing like mad. For some reason I called the shop to check on it. The guy I talked to said it wouldn’t be ready until tomorrow. Then mumbled something about needing it to get home that night. Well, it WAS snowing pretty hard. Then he admitted that it was ready and I could come pick it up any time. I liked that shop.
The story about Josh’s car and the blocked snorkel is very helpful. I think I’ve learned more from stories like that than anything. Those kind of things stick in my head and come up surprisingly often!
A few months ago my son and I changed the alternator on his car because it was a “known issue” and was throwing codes to match. The new alternator didn’t fix the problem, so we gave up and decided to change the unrelated broken battery tray. It was then we discovered the positive battery terminal was loose. Two turns with a wrench and everything was fixed. I felt extremely stupid to say the least :)
Many moons ago, I was a mechanic in a small-town Shell station. Customer had a 1973 Pontiac Catalina that had a buzzing under the hood at highway speed. Numerous trips to the dealer didn't help. I was changing the oil in that car one day and found the under-hood decal was loose. Used super glue to fasten it back down, and the noise went away. Guy thought I was a mechanical genius!
@@paulwolfe3709 Great story! I love those old "Tin Indians"! My parents were both Pontiac drivers until the very end of the brand. My 2 favorites that they owned were dads 1967 Catalina 2 door hardtop and moms 1969 Tempest 2 door "Sport Coupe" (a.k.a. hardtop). I'd proudly own and drive either one today!
The story of the blocked snorkel reminded me of an Accord I worked on a few years ago which would idle fine but would fall on its own face when attempting to accelerate. The owner decided that the best place to store their funnel was the top of the snorkel.
That sensor was a trigger for anger. The previous shop not only did a wallet flush (dishonest) but also assigned the job to someone who had no idea of how to do it, lacked the correct tools, or both (incompetence). You can't tell me the shop management wasn't aware of that. I suspect it was a chain shop, because thinking of an independant shop operating like this is just too painful.
My father-in-law was a mechanic for 50 years he taught me one thing that was very important if it's not broke don't fix it nine times out of 10 you will create a problem 😜
I completely understand about not bringing work home with you. When I leave my job, as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. It's the only way I can maintain my sanity.
Id take a closer look into that non existing turbo. My mother almost got scammed at a mechanic. They wanted $3500 to service her awd system. Her car is fwd! When i asked her what was her car doing, she said its running fine. I was just getting an oil change.
That was my thought. Must have been a real shade tree operation to not even have an O2 socket, that's one of the first tools I bought and I don't even work on cars that much.
I can do it with a cresent wrench. It takes more' stupidity than that to do it like that. Sum like gene altering and barbiturates mixed with formented hopps
Eric, you think the locomotive needed its drive cycle monitors completed? Maybe it lost power and it couldn't move because of it. 😂😂😂 love your channel! You are a true master mechanic!
Yep! When I am off the clock, I am off the clock! I don't answer phone calls or reply to emails off the clock. If they want you to drive it around for hours then they have to pay for said hours. If you don't give them boundaries, you will never be off the clock!
What they did to the o2 sensor metal shield is unbelievable. It's things like this that happened throughout the years is why I started doing my own car repairs, like everything else at home. It's fun to learn new things DIY and I love working with my hands doing whatever within reason. Thank you once more Eric O. for the lesson of of day. Have a nice day
It’s a bugger of a problem, intermittance, I have had it happen to me several times, like any other vehicle owner. I had one that only happened while the engine was cold (coil breaking down) it took two years and a very busy day to finally break enough to find it. I know the symptom now ! The other main one that I can think of, that I never got to the bottom of was a van I had, that when loaded and pulling up long hills seemed to lose power. Trouble was, no temp warnings etc, and once you got it on the flat she’d pull herself together and would not do it again for the rest of the trip, hills or not. No trouble whatsoever part loaded. couldn’t find it !! Just for the abuse and cat calls that van was a Freight Rover Sherpa 200 series. 1.7l
@@CrimeVid That is why there are diagnostic scanner. I am not an auto mechanic by trade. Take the time to know everything about your car. I have a 2008 Chevy Cobalt LS wit a 2.2l. I have all the books and I do a lot of researching on the internet about my car. I have done all the repairs throughout the years, like everything else in my home. Now I am researching into replacing the timing and balance chain. That's on next year to do list.
Great call, when you leave the shop, leave the issues there, Unless your talking of Mrs. O! Then its a different story. Happy wife, happy life!!!!! Thanks Eric, i do enjoy your videos. If you keep doing, I'll keep watching. 🙂
I found that a majority of intermittent problems were usually electrical, chafed wire weak battery or someone has incorrectly fitted a stereo, I've even experienced a customer disconnect the speedo which caused loss of power assisted steering and was sold a complete steering assembly, that's when it came to me, just like Ronny James Dio song "the last in line" haha Love how you mock the monkeys ✌️ 😊
I can relate to the frustration when you come behind someone that damages parts that were probably working prior to you seeing the vehicle! I built and installed custom cabinets for years and have seen a lot of cabinets being sold that were pure junk and cost more than what our products sold for.
Mr. O, A lot of private shops and or dealers would simply run this guys bill up and do nothing and then claim it was the "process" it took to eliminate the prior codes. At least you know the words professional, ethics and morals. Like another person said, you have integrity and that's getting more rare these days. Good job young man. If it ain't broke, ain't nothing to fix😨😨
These 2.4 Earthdreams engines are bulletproof as long as you change the oil and keep an eye on the oil level. I've had 3 Hondas with this engine and they're powerful for what they are and get great mileage. All of the work that was done was courtesy of the parts cannon and a waste of money.
Eric, you have probably dealt with the late 90s Buicks that would stall when the turn signal was used... Unless we know of such common issues, we have to drive it. The customer complaint was that it would stall sometimes when making a right turn. Never a left turn for whatever reason. I had to convince the customer for me to use it as my personal vehicle for who knows how long. Finally, I discovered that it actually had to do with turn signal usage. Once I hit the turn signal, it stalled instantly. It had nothing to do with making an actual turn. The ignition switch was bad. The voltage drop across it was too much and the PCM used the same circuit. I used her vehicle and her gas for a while to go to my day job.
Love the common sense diagnosis. And love the willingness to call out "wallet cleaner" tactics from some shops. A shop just zapped a friend of mine to the tune of $375 for four freaking spark plugs because I was busy last weekend and couldn't change them for him..😡Thanks as always, Eric.
Went to a shop with very rough idle and noises that almost sounded like piston slap.. shop I went to told me I needed a new engine even WOTHOUT checking the code I provided. P0011. Went to family mechanic and he changed all the parts that need to be changed to address the code. Car runs like brand new now.
I did a cylinder head on a friend's Honda and the dealer wanted 70$ a piece for the OE NGK spark plugs, I bought the identical OE NGK plugs from O'Reilly for around 15$ each.....
@@guynxtdork Not really. It is a rare occurrence that spark plugs would need to be changed urgently. And it’s no surprise that his friend got ripped off by a shop. So my conclusion is that his friend should have waited if he was willing to help him out. Not hindsight.
Eric, Your work philosophy is bang on! You are absolutely right to separate work from family life. I know, I did 24/7 for decades and it was never really appreciated. God bless you and Mrs. O! 😁😁😁
I used to get people who wanted me to work on their cars after hours. For those of you who do, God bless ya. Anyway, i was at the barbershop one day, he started pestering me about looking at his car. I asked if i could come to his house and have him cut my hair then for less money. He got my point.
I watch your channel all the time and I have learned a lot about other vehicles that I haven’t been around. You do a great job! My dad has a 2016 Honda CRV and he kept complaining his was going into limp mode, he’s a retired mechanic, and he hadn’t owned this Honda very long. This problem would happen when he was pulling out from an intersection or stoplight quickly. Anyway I had read about some other people experiencing this problem and they were coming up with a low fuel pressure code. His had this same code and was the only code it had. I checked his fuel pressure with my Snap-On scanner and at the moment of acceleration it did go below the desired pressure for a split second. I did some research on that problem and found the OEM fuel pump was on back order, except one place, so I ordered it. Wrong part arrived, returned it and explained what I was supposed to receive and they sent another pump with a revised part number. Replaced it and it did run better but he said it still did it. I couldn’t duplicate the problem while I drove it. He was leaving my brother’s house as I watched him leave I saw his brake lights come on for a split second while he was accelerating going uphill, so I thought about it and was thinking that if he was riding with his foot on the brake pedal, it’s very sensitive, the computer sees he’s accelerating and it sees the brake signal at the same time it goes into limp mode until he lets up on the brakes or he accelerates past 3/4 throttle. Then it accelerates aggressively. Talked with him about it and he started paying attention to that and discovered that it was the problem. He’s 91!
You might get a chuckle out of this. The bell at your shop sounds like my home, add-on front door bell. I was watching one of your videos and was using ear buds. Your bell went off louder than usual, but I thought someone was at my door at 10:30 pm. Had to get my gun before answering. Then I realized.
didn’t watch entire video before commenting but my 2004 Element with the 2.4 had same issue and I replaced VTEC Solenoid and the issue was resolved. Not sure but that CRV had the same engine and no turbo.Maybe that shop should have researched Honda websites instead of loading the parts canon. I love when you work on Honda’s. Also from the noise of that engine sounds like he never did a valve adjustment.
Injectors always seem to be a problem on the Honda direct injection engines however we haven't seen many issues with these at the dealership yet. Definitely a bigger problems on the v6s and on the turbo engines. Definitely could be a failing injector but they shouldn't have shot the parts cannon like that!
Hey Eric, when they say to drive it endlessly to duplicate it you should remind them… “If I can do it… you can do it.” Last thing you want is to be stuck in a customers car on the side of the road on your time off.
Generally if I can't duplicate, I ship... but in a scenario like this where it's been to multiple shops I'd probably throw a few pulse/psi transducers on it (exhaust, radiator, intake...) and just do a 5 min capture our something just out of curiosity and empathy 😆. Maybe I'd see valve adjustment issues (it's a Honda...) Or catch an intermittent exhaust pulse anomaly... also depends on how busy and/or enthusiastic I am that day 😂
i was driving with the Mrs a couple days ago and we went around a roundabout. I did the exact same "WEEEEEE" thing. She just looked at me like...."this is the man i chose???" 😂
I definitely heard something howling. I wasn't sure if it was a wheel bearing or tires. It's hard to tell on a video. I don't keep customer cars to drive either. You did what you could do and give it back. If it acts up, call you first next time would be my suggestion. Thanks for sharing.
Great philosophy, leave your work at work. Time goes by too fast and your kids are grown before you know it. Quality family time is key to a happy life 😁
Im not a mechanic. But i sure do enjoy your videos! I DIY a lot of my vehicles. Definitely use your tips when im working on things. I do the Weeeeee around roundabouts too! 😂
The vibrations in drive were a common concern in 2015 when Honda started using the Earth Dreams 2.4 in these cars. Apparently, the vibrations had something to do with the engine having slightly offset cylinders, which introduced vibrations. Honda had several TSBs to replace the radiator mount, seat isolators and other things. My dad’s 2016 CR-V has some noticeable vibration, too.
ב''ה, Clutch album prophecy? Not a lot of Honda experience, first time hearing they named this engine thus. Also tend to enjoy that band, but "Earth Rocker" somehow didn't hit right for me, some good intentions but a bit burnt out perhaps in prelude to some sadder rock'n'roll stuff. Barely watching the video but hopefully a reasonable job on the diagnosis and I may have seen some infinitely improbable computer stuff as far back as this model year.
Either this video was shot a few months back or that car has an expired registration. Still, amazing that the last shop mangled that AFR sensor and just left it like that...I mean, it's not like it's hidden from view when you open the hood 😉
Not missed, those are no charge "courtesy" repairs. FYI, beginning in '24, mufflers will no longer have that feature, 💩🚽👌 because the PRNY requires you to drive electric or not drive @ all . 🐄💩
I do it just like that, but I offer them to just show up without an appointment if it acts up so I can see what it's doing, I'll do quick test drive with scanner hooked up and then reschedule for repair if I don't have time right then Usually my customers are greatful that I'm trying to help.❤
OMG. My mom hit a deer with a 2 year old CRV. The car would not run normal after body repair and the damage really didn’t look that bad to begin with (I thought). 2 body shops and the dealer could not figure it out. They gave her an almost 1-1 trade on a brand new one because warranty and insurance. She’s had it for 8 years now without any issues. No more deer since then.
The other shop must have inadvertently caught the oxygen sensor with their special sledge hammer when refitting the sensor Eric 😊, great testing and diagnosis as usual 🤗🤗
You only lined up the parts cannon at what you knew for sure needed to be replaced and it looks like it has stayed fixed. But you also know problems can be so hidden like the plastic in the intake, or only happen when there isn't much fuel in the tank and you're on a steep hill of if you need to do an emergency stop and some water or gunk in the tank shifts about. Or there's a chaffing wire or a mis-fitted after-market thing. People living within driving distance of your shop are so lucky to have the benefit of your knowledge and services.
I'm not a shop owner, but I would think the liability associated with driving a customer car for an extended period of time would outweigh the benefit of potentially catching a real intermittent issue. That AFR sensor damage is pretty entertaining - I'm sure there's a story - I wonder if they ever were able to actually get it out, or if they just kept messing with it until it broke... clearly getting a socket in there is difficult, but if you are doing diagnostics, seems like you'd be better off getting a tool that works rather than hacking at the heat shield! Another awesome video, though - I enjoy watching you work!
Hi Eric. I met you last summer ( Big RV) You said that one day that you and Mrs. O would like to travel and vacation in an RV. Just remember that if I can do it, you can do it!
Great video! Even though the original problem never showed up, I still learned several things as I always do from your videos. I’m a Honda guy (I own 3 right now) so I love it when I can learn more about them. My 2012 CRV hasn’t had any problems so far. Keep up the good work!!!👍🏻👍🏻
My Outback had a cyl 6 misfire while my wife was driving (twice) the day before we were leaving for a trip towing a trailer! I couldn't get it to repeat for me, filled tank with fresh fuel and changed the well used air filter. Now 500 km later, at our destination, still waiting for it to reappear!
ב''ה, dunno that year but that's kind of a Subaru thing. Once in forever after checking the obvious is kind of a "that happens" between the electronics/sensing system and any vagaries of the flat engine (oil blow-by more easily reaching the spark?) .. if it actually begins running poorly or becomes a regular occurrence then bother digging, unless a more experienced 5-star fan has anything to add.
One of my favorite things you say. If you can’t duplicate the concern you can’t fix the car! Customers will always say well it was doing it yesterday, it was doing it on the way here, and my buddy said it’s probably this can we just put one in. No!
Plugs and valve adjustment are maintenance item "4" at 105k per Honda, it could be a tight valve. Injectors are also common on this engine for misfire codes.
Have a friend who would come by and say their car would have no power , every time I got in I would reposition the floor mat , drive around and say seems perfect to me , a bunch of repeat and reports later it dawned on me the problem as I went to reposition the floor mat !
That car said "Yeah, I wanted to come to you're office FIRST Dr. O! Let's go for a rip, give me the beans and, we can stop at the ice cream store on the way back! Just don't tell Mrs. O!
I once took a customers Escalade home and basically used it as my daily driver for over a week because my shop simply couldn’t get it to duplicate his issue during business hours (engine randomly shuts off and no crank for 30 minutes after driving for about an hour). Managed to get it to finally act up and allow me to diagnose the issue.....after spending $120 of my own money on gas. Turns out the high amperage fuse on the firewall next to the battery had corrosion on the electrical contacts, which caused intermittent loss of power to almost all the modules that keep the car running.
Big shout-out to the business owners and also the guy next to you work and that we don't see much Josh I believe his name is God bless the little mom-and-pop mechanic shop❤
Tow truck up-fitter and repair here. I get the intermittent xyz stuff all the time. I have chased my tail several times. It is by far the easiest when its actually failed. Watching you and your process has made my toolbox bigger and I greatly appreciate that.Thank you!
I don't know about you but I am paranoid driving someone's car (even rentals with extra insurance) so I wouldn't want to drive someone's car either, too much liability and also what if a different problem pops up? Then they come back to you to fix it as if you broke it. Great video Eric and I love that you are always looking out for your customers best interest.
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Great video showing a man who finds the fault and fixes the fault! Not writing up nonsense on shop ticket!
Making a repair ticket seem impressive.
Lady should go back and demand every dime back. She’s entitled to her money back and probably doesn’t even realize it. They’re also buying that new sensor or I’m dragging their sorry ass into a courtroom!
That AFR sensor smells like anger!😊
"when i leave work, works over" words we should live by, Mr O has sage advice not just for mechanics. I started as a mechanic 45 years ago, but found out working on other folks cars was less fun than my own.
The split intake boot caught me on a 2006 Accord. It was cracked on the bottom just after the MAP in the corrugated area so I didn’t see it on a visual. When I took it off to clean the throttle body it split in half. Replacement did wonders for the fuel trims.
If the other shops destroyed the shield on that sensor, imagine what they did to the oil drain nut!
It was probably the car owner doing a diy.
Ouch
@@seeya205 Eric said owner doesn't work on his cars at all Soo idk?
What exactly is an oil drain nut???
@@kellyappel3015 oil drain plug/bolt
"When I leave work, work is over" AMEN! It's easy to forget that when you're an upstanding citizen and business owner. Have a good weekend South Main Crew
I fell into that trap at a couple of previous jobs...vowed I would never do that again....I don't answer calls from work when I'm off, and on my days off anymore....they had 5 8+ hour days of me being there, that is far more than enough...they have plenty of other people there that can do the same stuff I do, there's no reason for me to be working when I'm not there, and certainly when I'm not being paid for it.
A number or years ago I had my 4WD Bronco II in the shop on a day when it was snowing like mad. For some reason I called the shop to check on it. The guy I talked to said it wouldn’t be ready until tomorrow. Then mumbled something about needing it to get home that night. Well, it WAS snowing pretty hard. Then he admitted that it was ready and I could come pick it up any time. I liked that shop.
The story about Josh’s car and the blocked snorkel is very helpful. I think I’ve learned more from stories like that than anything. Those kind of things stick in my head and come up surprisingly often!
A few months ago my son and I changed the alternator on his car because it was a “known issue” and was throwing codes to match. The new alternator didn’t fix the problem, so we gave up and decided to change the unrelated broken battery tray. It was then we discovered the positive battery terminal was loose. Two turns with a wrench and everything was fixed. I felt extremely stupid to say the least :)
Have I got a story about a metal coat hanger and a drive shaft for you then.
We remember stuff when it's wrapped in a story. It's how we work🙂
Many moons ago, I was a mechanic in a small-town Shell station. Customer had a 1973 Pontiac Catalina that had a buzzing under the hood at highway speed. Numerous trips to the dealer didn't help. I was changing the oil in that car one day and found the under-hood decal was loose. Used super glue to fasten it back down, and the noise went away. Guy thought I was a mechanical genius!
@@paulwolfe3709 Great story! I love those old "Tin Indians"! My parents were both Pontiac drivers until the very end of the brand. My 2 favorites that they owned were dads 1967 Catalina 2 door hardtop and moms 1969 Tempest 2 door "Sport Coupe" (a.k.a. hardtop). I'd proudly own and drive either one today!
The story of the blocked snorkel reminded me of an Accord I worked on a few years ago which would idle fine but would fall on its own face when attempting to accelerate. The owner decided that the best place to store their funnel was the top of the snorkel.
That sensor was a trigger for anger. The previous shop not only did a wallet flush (dishonest) but also assigned the job to someone who had no idea of how to do it, lacked the correct tools, or both (incompetence). You can't tell me the shop management wasn't aware of that. I suspect it was a chain shop, because thinking of an independant shop operating like this is just too painful.
My father-in-law was a mechanic for 50 years he taught me one thing that was very important if it's not broke don't fix it nine times out of 10 you will create a problem 😜
I completely understand about not bringing work home with you. When I leave my job, as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. It's the only way I can maintain my sanity.
I wish we had a shop like this in my town...
Id take a closer look into that non existing turbo. My mother almost got scammed at a mechanic. They wanted $3500 to service her awd system. Her car is fwd! When i asked her what was her car doing, she said its running fine. I was just getting an oil change.
I believe the CRC product they used....🙃is called Intake and Turbo cleaner
Tell everyone not to go there😂
My guess is that they didn’t have an O2 socket set. They chowdered up the metal shield so they could get a box end wrench on it.
That was my thought. Must have been a real shade tree operation to not even have an O2 socket, that's one of the first tools I bought and I don't even work on cars that much.
I can do it with a cresent wrench. It takes more' stupidity than that to do it like that. Sum like gene altering and barbiturates mixed with formented hopps
My guess is that it was the car owner. I can't see a shop doing that!
@@seeya205 No this guy doesn't work on cars at all.
@@SouthMainAuto Scary if it was a shop that did that! 😱🤬
Eric, you think the locomotive needed its drive cycle monitors completed? Maybe it lost power and it couldn't move because of it. 😂😂😂 love your channel! You are a true master mechanic!
"It's got this engine here in it" lol
Yep! When I am off the clock, I am off the clock! I don't answer phone calls or reply to emails off the clock. If they want you to drive it around for hours then they have to pay for said hours. If you don't give them boundaries, you will never be off the clock!
What they did to the o2 sensor metal shield is unbelievable. It's things like this that happened throughout the years is why I started doing my own car repairs, like everything else at home. It's fun to learn new things DIY and I love working with my hands doing whatever within reason. Thank you once more Eric O. for the lesson of of day. Have a nice day
It’s a bugger of a problem, intermittance, I have had it happen to me several times, like any other vehicle owner. I had one that only happened while the engine was cold (coil breaking down) it took two years and a very busy day to finally break enough to find it. I know the symptom now ! The other main one that I can think of, that I never got to the bottom of was a van I had, that when loaded and pulling up long hills seemed to lose power. Trouble was, no temp warnings etc, and once you got it on the flat she’d pull herself together and would not do it again for the rest of the trip, hills or not. No trouble whatsoever part loaded. couldn’t find it !! Just for the abuse and cat calls that van was a
Freight Rover Sherpa 200 series. 1.7l
@@CrimeVid That is why there are diagnostic scanner. I am not an auto mechanic by trade. Take the time to know everything about your car. I have a 2008 Chevy Cobalt LS wit a 2.2l. I have all the books and I do a lot of researching on the internet about my car. I have done all the repairs throughout the years, like everything else in my home. Now I am researching into replacing the timing and balance chain. That's on next year to do list.
There’s always a story. Too bad we rarely get the whole story. Good vid. Thanks
Definitely not stupid that when you leave work it's over, I'm glad you do that.
Great call, when you leave the shop, leave the issues there, Unless your talking of Mrs. O! Then its a different story. Happy wife, happy life!!!!! Thanks Eric, i do enjoy your videos. If you keep doing, I'll keep watching. 🙂
I leave work at my workplace as well, sensible attitude to keep your noggin healthy. 😊
I found that a majority of intermittent problems were usually electrical, chafed wire weak battery or someone has incorrectly fitted a stereo, I've even experienced a customer disconnect the speedo which caused loss of power assisted steering and was sold a complete steering assembly, that's when it came to me, just like Ronny James Dio song "the last in line" haha
Love how you mock the monkeys ✌️ 😊
I can relate to the frustration when you come behind someone that damages parts that were probably working prior to you seeing the vehicle!
I built and installed custom cabinets for years and have seen a lot of cabinets being sold that were pure junk and cost more than what our products
sold for.
Mr. O,
A lot of private shops and or dealers would simply run this guys bill up and do nothing and then claim it was the "process" it took to eliminate the prior codes. At least you know the words professional, ethics and morals. Like another person said, you have integrity and that's getting more rare these days. Good job young man. If it ain't broke, ain't nothing to fix😨😨
I love how that invoice just so happened to come to pennies away from $200. How convenient!
@@Guysm1l3y Just shows how honest that shop was. Would have been unprofessional to up the charge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sometimes I just crack myself up
That's why we exist 😉
@@troysmith9453 Don't know what you're saying
@@ronallen6578 I was saying mode 7 is just like checking for codes when on a test drive.
"Wallet flushes"...LOL!
These 2.4 Earthdreams engines are bulletproof as long as you change the oil and keep an eye on the oil level. I've had 3 Hondas with this engine and they're powerful for what they are and get great mileage. All of the work that was done was courtesy of the parts cannon and a waste of money.
Weeee, weee.....was waiting for you pan around to the "Geico" pig in the back seat.
Eric, you have probably dealt with the late 90s Buicks that would stall when the turn signal was used... Unless we know of such common issues, we have to drive it. The customer complaint was that it would stall sometimes when making a right turn. Never a left turn for whatever reason. I had to convince the customer for me to use it as my personal vehicle for who knows how long. Finally, I discovered that it actually had to do with turn signal usage. Once I hit the turn signal, it stalled instantly. It had nothing to do with making an actual turn. The ignition switch was bad. The voltage drop across it was too much and the PCM used the same circuit. I used her vehicle and her gas for a while to go to my day job.
Couldn't agree with you more. When I park my truck at the end of the day I'm no longer a truck driver till the next morning
That "wee" thing you're doing are just hilarious, I am doing it myself sometimes too 😄
I know why the owner of the Hondoo drove hours to bring it to you Eric. Probably knew you were the best mechanic in the state! Good job, as usual.
i'm with you on the work thing. when work is over, it's over. everything and everyone related to work stays at work.
This situation only happens on my "personal" vehicles.. so it festers until catastrophic failure occurs at the worst possible time!
You usually give us the "long story" - (And that's what we prefer.)
Love the common sense diagnosis. And love the willingness to call out "wallet cleaner" tactics from some shops. A shop just zapped a friend of mine to the tune of $375 for four freaking spark plugs because I was busy last weekend and couldn't change them for him..😡Thanks as always, Eric.
Sounds like your friend should have just waited until you weren’t busy
Went to a shop with very rough idle and noises that almost sounded like piston slap.. shop I went to told me I needed a new engine even WOTHOUT checking the code I provided. P0011. Went to family mechanic and he changed all the parts that need to be changed to address the code. Car runs like brand new now.
I did a cylinder head on a friend's Honda and the dealer wanted 70$ a piece for the OE NGK spark plugs, I bought the identical OE NGK plugs from O'Reilly for around 15$ each.....
@@guynxtdork Not really. It is a rare occurrence that spark plugs would need to be changed urgently. And it’s no surprise that his friend got ripped off by a shop. So my conclusion is that his friend should have waited if he was willing to help him out. Not hindsight.
@@DieselTechBryan Should have ordered from Rockauto, They're even cheaper.
Eric, Your work philosophy is bang on! You are absolutely right to separate work from family life. I know, I did 24/7 for decades and it was never really appreciated. God bless you and Mrs. O! 😁😁😁
I used to get people who wanted me to work on their cars after hours. For those of you who do, God bless ya. Anyway, i was at the barbershop one day, he started pestering me about looking at his car. I asked if i could come to his house and have him cut my hair then for less money. He got my point.
Think you are one of a dying breed of real mechanics. Really enjoy your content.
I watch your channel all the time and I have learned a lot about other vehicles that I haven’t been around. You do a great job! My dad has a 2016 Honda CRV and he kept complaining his was going into limp mode, he’s a retired mechanic, and he hadn’t owned this Honda very long. This problem would happen when he was pulling out from an intersection or stoplight quickly. Anyway I had read about some other people experiencing this problem and they were coming up with a low fuel pressure code. His had this same code and was the only code it had. I checked his fuel pressure with my Snap-On scanner and at the moment of acceleration it did go below the desired pressure for a split second. I did some research on that problem and found the OEM fuel pump was on back order, except one place, so I ordered it. Wrong part arrived, returned it and explained what I was supposed to receive and they sent another pump with a revised part number. Replaced it and it did run better but he said it still did it. I couldn’t duplicate the problem while I drove it. He was leaving my brother’s house as I watched him leave I saw his brake lights come on for a split second while he was accelerating going uphill, so I thought about it and was thinking that if he was riding with his foot on the brake pedal, it’s very sensitive, the computer sees he’s accelerating and it sees the brake signal at the same time it goes into limp mode until he lets up on the brakes or he accelerates past 3/4 throttle. Then it accelerates aggressively. Talked with him about it and he started paying attention to that and discovered that it was the problem. He’s 91!
Well done Eric. Love your work and your integrity :-)
You might get a chuckle out of this. The bell at your shop sounds like my home, add-on front door bell. I was watching one of your videos and was using ear buds. Your bell went off louder than usual, but I thought someone was at my door at 10:30 pm. Had to get my gun before answering. Then I realized.
didn’t watch entire video before commenting but my 2004 Element with the 2.4 had same issue and I replaced VTEC Solenoid and the issue was resolved. Not sure but that CRV had the same engine and no turbo.Maybe that shop should have researched Honda websites instead of loading the parts canon. I love when you work on Honda’s. Also from the noise of that engine sounds like he never did a valve adjustment.
Looks like you did a fair amount. And it's working. Can't fix what ain't broken
Bring it back when it really has a problem..great video Eric.
Hey Eric, Rainman Ray paid you a big compliment. He called you “The Great One” and I agree!!!!
Great work as always, Eric. I think you did all you could on this one. If you can't duplicate the problem, you can't fix it!
Injectors always seem to be a problem on the Honda direct injection engines however we haven't seen many issues with these at the dealership yet. Definitely a bigger problems on the v6s and on the turbo engines. Definitely could be a failing injector but they shouldn't have shot the parts cannon like that!
You go home and work for us viewers . And it is highly appreciated sir !! Best on the tube.
Hey Eric, when they say to drive it endlessly to duplicate it you should remind them… “If I can do it… you can do it.” Last thing you want is to be stuck in a customers car on the side of the road on your time off.
The Weeee around the roundabout had me rolling 😂
Generally if I can't duplicate, I ship... but in a scenario like this where it's been to multiple shops I'd probably throw a few pulse/psi transducers on it (exhaust, radiator, intake...) and just do a 5 min capture our something just out of curiosity and empathy 😆. Maybe I'd see valve adjustment issues (it's a Honda...) Or catch an intermittent exhaust pulse anomaly... also depends on how busy and/or enthusiastic I am that day 😂
Can't blame me this time Mr O. I stopped moving those a few years before this one rolled off the line.
The way the other shops treated your customer, no wonder she has the book "HER" vol 2 on the dash.
i was driving with the Mrs a couple days ago and we went around a roundabout. I did the exact same "WEEEEEE" thing. She just looked at me like...."this is the man i chose???" 😂
"If it ain't broke you're not trying." -- Red Green
Now that’s what I like to hear. That’s what I’m talking about!
In the miltary we used to say " If we can't fix it, it aint broke!"
I definitely heard something howling. I wasn't sure if it was a wheel bearing or tires. It's hard to tell on a video. I don't keep customer cars to drive either. You did what you could do and give it back. If it acts up, call you first next time would be my suggestion. Thanks for sharing.
If they screwed up the o2 sensor that bad may be worth going back and making sure the plugs are ok
Great philosophy, leave your work at work. Time goes by too fast and your kids are grown before you know it. Quality family time is key to a happy life 😁
Im not a mechanic. But i sure do enjoy your videos! I DIY a lot of my vehicles. Definitely use your tips when im working on things. I do the Weeeeee around roundabouts too! 😂
The other shop did a hack job on the hondoo and had the nerve to charge for it and now it's at now it's at a real mechanic job well done Mr.O
The vibrations in drive were a common concern in 2015 when Honda started using the Earth Dreams 2.4 in these cars. Apparently, the vibrations had something to do with the engine having slightly offset cylinders, which introduced vibrations. Honda had several TSBs to replace the radiator mount, seat isolators and other things. My dad’s 2016 CR-V has some noticeable vibration, too.
Oopsie Hondoo 🤭🤫😏
ב''ה, Clutch album prophecy?
Not a lot of Honda experience, first time hearing they named this engine thus. Also tend to enjoy that band, but "Earth Rocker" somehow didn't hit right for me, some good intentions but a bit burnt out perhaps in prelude to some sadder rock'n'roll stuff.
Barely watching the video but hopefully a reasonable job on the diagnosis and I may have seen some infinitely improbable computer stuff as far back as this model year.
@@josephkanowitz6875😔I clicked 4 times before I realized what you did.
Why wouldnt it be engine mounts ?
Either this video was shot a few months back or that car has an expired registration. Still, amazing that the last shop mangled that AFR sensor and just left it like that...I mean, it's not like it's hidden from view when you open the hood 😉
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See as he wanted an inspection it's likely he was trying to get it repaired to get it legal on the road again.
Eric, keep up the great work. I am surprised the other Dealer shops missed the "Muffler bearings" and low "Blinker Fluid".
Not missed, those are no charge "courtesy" repairs. FYI, beginning in '24, mufflers will no longer have that feature, 💩🚽👌 because the PRNY requires you to drive electric or not drive @ all . 🐄💩
Nice scenery on that drive cycle Eric ! Love the mountain views.
It's just a shame how shops take people money and don't do anything......😢
I do it just like that, but I offer them to just show up without an appointment if it acts up so I can see what it's doing, I'll do quick test drive with scanner hooked up and then reschedule for repair if I don't have time right then
Usually my customers are greatful that I'm trying to help.❤
Earth Dreams technology. That is simply hilarious! 😂
OMG. My mom hit a deer with a 2 year old CRV. The car would not run normal after body repair and the damage really didn’t look that bad to begin with (I thought).
2 body shops and the dealer could not figure it out. They gave her an almost 1-1 trade on a brand new one because warranty and insurance. She’s had it for 8 years now without any issues. No more deer since then.
The other shop must have inadvertently caught the oxygen sensor with their special sledge hammer when refitting the sensor Eric 😊, great testing and diagnosis as usual 🤗🤗
Nice reasoning as usual, have a great weekend not working and enjoying your family.
You only lined up the parts cannon at what you knew for sure needed to be replaced and it looks like it has stayed fixed. But you also know problems can be so hidden like the plastic in the intake, or only happen when there isn't much fuel in the tank and you're on a steep hill of if you need to do an emergency stop and some water or gunk in the tank shifts about. Or there's a chaffing wire or a mis-fitted after-market thing. People living within driving distance of your shop are so lucky to have the benefit of your knowledge and services.
I'm not a shop owner, but I would think the liability associated with driving a customer car for an extended period of time would outweigh the benefit of potentially catching a real intermittent issue. That AFR sensor damage is pretty entertaining - I'm sure there's a story - I wonder if they ever were able to actually get it out, or if they just kept messing with it until it broke... clearly getting a socket in there is difficult, but if you are doing diagnostics, seems like you'd be better off getting a tool that works rather than hacking at the heat shield! Another awesome video, though - I enjoy watching you work!
Hi Eric. I met you last summer ( Big RV) You said that one day that you and Mrs. O would like to travel and vacation in an RV. Just remember that if I can do it, you can do it!
I have seen a few cracked intake boots on Hondas recently. They get hard and crack between the ribs. Worth a look.
Been watching forever still luv these videos . Than you so much 🎉
Great video! Even though the original problem never showed up, I still learned several things as I always do from your videos. I’m a Honda guy (I own 3 right now) so I love it when I can learn more about them. My 2012 CRV hasn’t had any problems so far. Keep up the good work!!!👍🏻👍🏻
You did what you could within the time you had to diagnose things. Excellent work, Eric
My Undivided Attention From 8-5 Not a Ghost Buster..LOL..Thx foe Wauchin..!!
They didn't have the thin profile sensor socket, thus they mangled the shield around it. I've seen that many times.
So, basically, you mostly corrected the other shop's screw up with the AFR sensor (inadequate socket used?). Good job on your side.
My Outback had a cyl 6 misfire while my wife was driving (twice) the day before we were leaving for a trip towing a trailer! I couldn't get it to repeat for me, filled tank with fresh fuel and changed the well used air filter. Now 500 km later, at our destination, still waiting for it to reappear!
ב''ה, dunno that year but that's kind of a Subaru thing. Once in forever after checking the obvious is kind of a "that happens" between the electronics/sensing system and any vagaries of the flat engine (oil blow-by more easily reaching the spark?) .. if it actually begins running poorly or becomes a regular occurrence then bother digging, unless a more experienced 5-star fan has anything to add.
One of my favorite things you say. If you can’t duplicate the concern you can’t fix the car! Customers will always say well it was doing it yesterday, it was doing it on the way here, and my buddy said it’s probably this can we just put one in. No!
"Can 'we' just put one in? You and your buddy? Sure, knock yourselves out!"
Plugs and valve adjustment are maintenance item "4" at 105k per Honda, it could be a tight valve. Injectors are also common on this engine for misfire codes.
Have a friend who would come by and say their car would have no power , every time I got in I would reposition the floor mat , drive around and say seems perfect to me , a bunch of repeat and reports later it dawned on me the problem as I went to reposition the floor mat !
Some wisdom I learned a long time ago. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
My thoughts exactly.
If it can't be duplicated it can't be fixed great video
That car said "Yeah, I wanted to come to you're office FIRST Dr. O! Let's go for a rip, give me the beans and, we can stop at the ice cream store on the way back! Just don't tell Mrs. O!
I once took a customers Escalade home and basically used it as my daily driver for over a week because my shop simply couldn’t get it to duplicate his issue during business hours (engine randomly shuts off and no crank for 30 minutes after driving for about an hour).
Managed to get it to finally act up and allow me to diagnose the issue.....after spending $120 of my own money on gas.
Turns out the high amperage fuse on the firewall next to the battery had corrosion on the electrical contacts, which caused intermittent loss of power to almost all the modules that keep the car running.
haven't worked on cars to "make money" for nearly 60 years, that car didn't exist back then. the '51 Plymouth was relatively new to me then 🤠
Its very possible customer was offered to change sensor and turned it down
Oh eric o !!!!!! This channel is not only informative but also entertaining , " wee" hahaha
All the other mechanics on TH-cam have high praise for you and so do I ❤ God bless you
Wow. You have a roundabout in the PRNY. Not common in the US of A, but all over the place here in the UK.
they are popping up all over here in the uS.
Big shout-out to the business owners and also the guy next to you work and that we don't see much Josh I believe his name is God bless the little mom-and-pop mechanic shop❤
Tow truck up-fitter and repair here. I get the intermittent xyz stuff all the time. I have chased my tail several times. It is by far the easiest when its actually failed. Watching you and your process has made my toolbox bigger and I greatly appreciate that.Thank you!
I don't know about you but I am paranoid driving someone's car (even rentals with extra insurance) so I wouldn't want to drive someone's car either, too much liability and also what if a different problem pops up? Then they come back to you to fix it as if you broke it. Great video Eric and I love that you are always looking out for your customers best interest.