Big Soft Boxes vs Small Ones. Is there really a difference? Westcott FJ400 + Nikon Z6 Photography
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2020
- We all know that the bigger the light source (and closer) the softer the light. But how does that translate in real-world usage? How is using a bigger or smaller softbox affect the overall look of my image? That's what this video/comparison was all about. Hope you either learn something or are entertained!
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What I love about your videos is that you show us all the "on-scene" work that I so desparately need to watch in order to learn about photography and even for certain product reviews, I can actually see them in practice. Unlike all the other channels where it was literally them sitting at a desk and talking. Big ups to you man!
I like how you have the model working lol .. pulling ur cart and stuff :)
It's a group effort over here!
Photo-Me-Ike I feel you bro 🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽great video as well
Okaaaayy I see you Nikon! Coming through thru with the eye detection!
but did anybody else have a mini stroke with the shot of the light setup in the pool ..
😂😂😂 “I’m Mr Risk it for the Biscuit”
Tha smaller box is definitely harder... can't go wrong with that double diffused 48! Great work man.
Whenever I need inspiration and a way to pump myself up to get out there and shoot, I just watch your videos. 👍
Great vid. Btw, it’s the relative size that matters (distance of modifier also a contributor). Size of modifier contributes to coverage/spread and fall-off.
Nice comparison video between the large and small soft box flash. I like the small softbox for getting good details in close-up shots. Great video.
I wonder if that double diffusion made a difference. Also, that strobe might be closer to the front of the small box which would make it more punchy like you said. So many variables with modifiers! Nice work on making the information easy to understand bro!
Yeah man for sure. I thought about that as well as far as double diffusion goes. Maybe that will be my next test. “Is double diffusion worth it?” Lol
@@Photomeike Yea I think that would be a good follow up video! I never paid attention to that much until now.
@@Photomeike Of course it is. The main function of the inner diffuser - and deflector plate/beauty disc if the softbox has it - is to eliminate the hotspot all modifiers have at the center and temper highlights on the model. That's it's MAIN function. So yes, it makes a huge difference in the quality of light. The light will be harder, punchier and less diffuse.
Your "go big if you want softer light than the smaller one" comment is true as long as you are referring to similar softboxes. Other things like a Parabolic umbrella (a real one not the nonsense marketing you can find cheap around) can be very punchy even in big sizes so lets make sure people understand while the rule of the bigger and closer the softer the light, is mostly true, there are different designers that can change how that works.
You are an Inspiration !!! And I am so glad to see You using the Nikons (bought my first Nikon F 54years ago and Nikon is to this day my main camera system) :)
Results are slightly skewed due to the double-diffusion on the bigger one. You kind of touched on it when speaking about harder light/shadows on smaller one.
Love the wagon. Way to go for a simple shoot. No car, relaxing walk and time to chill with your model. You know how to do it right
I actually liked both softboxes. I like soft light AND harder light. It depends on what I'm shooting and/or where. But I like the quality of light with both modifiers.
Your videos are dope, my dude! Always look forward to watchin them.
Thanks man! I appreciate the support!
You’re shooting in my exact old spots in Tacoma even the streets in Tacoma ,lol,that were so funny,now that I live in Indiana.
Welcome to my channel! It’s a trip down memory lane!
Your reviews are honest and fun to watch !
Thank you!
Your personality and video's are fun man, nice to watch :)
Thank you very much 🙏🏾
Great video. Thanks for the comparison.
Excellent vid. Beautiful models. Very illustrative comparisons. Totally agree with you about the selection of medium size softboxes for effectiveness and for convenience. A new subscriber. Thank you very much.
Thank you for the support!
Good vid informative and professional with right personality blend. Massive thumbs up from uk pro .
Great content as usual. Pics and model were 🔥🔥📷✔
Appreciate that bro!
Great video. Awesome insight. Keep them coming.
Thank you!
Awesome as always Ike and inspiration
Thank you Harry!
Another dope and educational video. Keep it up.
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Excellent video as expected from you. Bruh,, I love your channel. UR da shyt lol. Please keep these vids on deck. You motivate me to keep on shooting. God bless you bruh. Thanks for all that you do
Thank you so much great video!
Dope video as always. I have the orlite version of that flash with 48 also.
I am glad I found this video, it was quite informative. I was not surprised that you had to up the power of your flash for the larger softbox to generate a similar look. It takes more power to fill the larger modifier to generate that soft diffused light. But as you eluded in one of your comments, i am interested to know if the double diffusion plays that big of a factor as well? Thanks and great video! 🙏 💯
Good work as usual. The smaller box has harsher light though I guess it would be softer with another diffuser panel... Thanks for the video bruh!
Great comparison but I would add that proximity of the light source to the subject also plays a huge role. You can get soft light from a smaller soft box by moving it closer. :) Thanks for the video
No problem, thank you for watching!
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Great job. Both boxes did great job. Model.................. came straight from heaven. Keep safe!!
Appreciate that!
Dope comparison Ike! Shots were 🔥 I prefer the bigger softboxes, but like you said you can still get good results with the smaller ones.
Thanks a lot Adrian!
Good stuff. Thanks
I have the small 26" Joel Grimes beauty dish one, but also purchased the 48" L Octa. Can't wait to try it out!
I’m deciding between those two now. What are your thoughts so far?
You are mixing flash with ambient light so the differences are far less dramatic. As most of your light is ambient the flash is really just filling in the shadows a bit with soft light. It makes a difference with spread a bit in the image you posted and also the bigger box gives you flexibility with distance to model without changing the quality of light as dramatically. You notice this effect more on the second location, especially the way the shadows are hitting her leg and the wall behind her. And yeah harder light tends to look punchier overall. If you want a cool punchy but soft look, get a single diffused large deep silver umbrella, it's a very interesting look... Or if this TH-cam money pays out a large (222) Broncolor Para would give a real punchy yet soft look. Overall good videos, great models (she pulls the cart, she gets praise) and your chill effortless shooting vibe makes me want to buy back a Nikon Z system because you make the final images look so good so easy.
Great vid Ike
Love your photo shoot...I noticed the difference between large and small soft box which fits the Photographer needs...I must know do you have special connection from heaven because that model had come from above...she's no question is absolutely gorgeous and Beautiful Black Woman ...love your insights on photography and the science of photography which requires studying and exploring and experience to becoming great professionals Photographer...you're the Real Truth....don't Stop now...amen
Well done on the vid bro. Well needed info
Thanks a lot!
So perfect you did this video
always good to see these vids ike great work
Thanks man. I see you out there with them hot wheels tho 👀
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All your models are beautiful with perfect skin. An older model with wrinkles would have been a better choice to show how the big light was softer. Still, you must not think that I am complaining all that much!
Dope photos 👍🏽
Best comparison.
Whats up Ike!!!...Been missing you..!!Glad you posting!!
What up James!
very well explained, thanks
Thank you!
Dope video looking forward to your z5 review I know one is coming soon
Lol I’m more excited about trying that R5 actually. But I’ll look into the Z5 as well.
love that location.. I wanna come & shoot there... nice images
Thanks! I just purchased some huge softboxes. I better get some powerful strobes!!!
You can make almost any modifier soft.
Not really about size but more about light distance to subject.
My studio is located in flagstaff Arizona I would almost ever take out a thing above 36” they become sails. I have snapped two 45” deeps over the last two years.
Oct’s are great in that they are a little more contained.
You can get great results from any gear, it’s all about learning to use the tools of your trade.
How is that rebranded Jenbei holding up. I ditched what I had because the color consultancy and using them out in the cold and heat did not work for me.
Did you use the deflector plate in your comparison that with the diffusion is usually a great combo
Good luck
Keep up the grind
your edits are so dope bro , do you use photoshop only ?
Oh bruh look...usually I don't say anything (and i watch all of your videos) but this time i GOT TOO.....U superman wit this photography! I bet I can give u an old cracked iPhone and you'll STILL come up with amazing pics. You are incredible sir. My hats off to u!
Hahaha thanks a lot man! I appreciate the support even if it’s silent. Lol
I can definitely learn a lot from you bro
Just picked up my first big soft box, 42”. Can’t wait to try it out. Question for you. When shooting the Z6, I assume you are using auto-area auto focus. Are you using S-AF and confirming the focus or using C-AF and trusting the Z6 to nail the focus? I’m slowly using my Z6 more on my shoots along with my D850. I want to make sure I’m using the eye detect AF the right way. Love your content!
Back at it again 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Man those colors, they re beautiful !!! Do you take RAWs and edit them or is this straigh out of camera ?
Great review and work as always! I’m leaning heavy into getting the FJ400.
Side note. What track was that when you were shooting by the blue shipping container and white wall? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great videos man. I'm getting a bigger box now
Hey thank you very much!
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Ikr got that work!!!!
Nice Jinbei HD 400 Pro strobe!!! It's also rebranded as the ORLIT RoveLight 400, both are cheaper than Westcott's rebrand.
Yup! Didn’t you mention that in the other video tho?
Awesome video,it clears a lot of confusion! Thank you for making it! Love your channel 👍👍👍😊
No problem!
Would have been cool to do some with the model smiling. She’s gorgeous. Nice editing
Thank you!
Another great video! I agree with u! I have many softbox, but ever since i got my glow 42 beauty dish that the one I tend to use the most now, but b4 that I was using my cheetahstand 20 and 26 softbox which I love cause of that extra punch! Great video
Thank you very much sir! And yeah them GLOW boxes are super popular.
No sandbags? You have trust my friend. I see it later on. Whew! Take care. Your pictures are cool
Thanks 👍
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Hi Ike, greetings from Wales. I am interested in the stand you are using. What make is it ?
Hi! I am using the Flashpoint C-Stand sold by Adorama.
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I'm caught between buying the 80cm and the 95cm softbox for my AD200 pro. Which softbox would you recommend for full body potraits?
Bigger is better. So he the 95 is you can. The only thing to be careful of is the amount of power needed. When you use a bigger modifiers it requires more power to fill. So as long as you aren’t shooting in really bring conditions the AD200 should do fine.
First.. thanks so much for all your videos.. AMAZING.. I'm from Brazil
Let me ask you a question. What is this thing that looks like a cell phone for you to view the photos that is connected to your camera? Thanks again
It’s called an Atomos Ninja V. It’s a recorder that I connect to my camera via HDMI to record my EVF so that you can see what I see through the camera.
@@Photomeike Thanks so much for you help brother.. GOD bless you
Yo ... Ive noticed you use this heavy duty C-stand for your flashes on your shoots, I went shopping for one on Amazon & i see they're $100+ & i just dropped serious cash on my new gear... My flash is a speedlight... do you recommend i keep using my generic tripods or is this really worth the investment? It also looks really heavy which is another reason I said im not sure Id want to lug that around on shoots... I appreciate your feedback
The thing with the bigger soft box is that you can place it closer to your subject
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I made it to the end, I'm a real one. I don't care what my mom says.
You been a real one!
I have a 25 inch double diffused softbox and I think I am make it work
How do you shoot at shut fast shutter speeds. I can’t seem to figure this out on my camera
High Speed Sync
The way I understood this, Both softboxes are good, but the side effects is that; the smaller softboxes lits the subject well but, produces harsher output, while the bigger ones which is more soft needs more firepower, which means more recycle time to recompose for another shot. With small to medium softboxes, will I be able to get the full body portrait lit using speedlite?
Yes that’s the gist of it. And yeah speed lights work, but they work best in darker conditions like around sunset or blue hour.
How are that C-Stand and sand bag dealing with the wind? I have had way too many B10's start to fly so I am considering switching to a heavy ass C-Stand for my run and gun shoots.
That’s funny you mention that because I just brought that Sandbag and it was my first time using it. It did well. It’s a 15lb bag I think and that combined with the C-Stand made for a very study set up. The wind wasn’t as bad as it seemed tho. I mainly like using the C-Stand because of the boom arm. The extra sturdiness is an added bonus.
Sand bag always goes on the tall leg, and the tall leg be pointed at the model. Yes, it goes on the front leg. Doesn’t seem right, but it is.
I love my 48” octobox but man it’s a pain to move around a shoot solo
Tell me about it. The big ones are such a chore.
Great content bro. Your shutter is 1/2000. I might have missed it but you’re in high speed sync bro?
Also I think the smaller soft box size shows less exposure spill on the models legs when high up
Corey Parsons Yes he’s in HSS. That’s the only way you’ll shoot over 1/250 shutter and I agree with you on the smaller softbox fam
footworkofficial I had feeling HSS was used. Thanks for the confirm fam!
Corey Parsons no problem
Bigger is always better...she says!
You already know 😂😂😂
Enjoyed. Missing the S-t-r-u-d-i-o bro!
Lol the Struggi been collecting dust because of these beautiful summer days I’m trying to take advantage of. It’ll be back tho.
Yo Ike you live a good life my brother.
Thank you. No complaints here!
@@Photomeike I do share that wealth of good looking models here NJ bro. Lol
But wouldn't you take out one of the discussions out of the big soft box?
Bro do you have a video where you lost your gear? I want to know what you’re using to go from camera to that screen
Not yet. I actually thought about making a “whats in my bag” or something like that. What screen are you referring to?
Photo-Me-Ike in another video I commented. I believe you were tethering your images to a phone or some type of display monitor
Ohhh. It’s my Atomos Ninja V. I linked it in the description under “gear i used to film”
Photo-Me-Ike appreciate that 👌🏾
1/2000 with 1/200 flash synch?
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I would have thought that the background would be more out of focus with you shooting at a wide AP.
Ike seen the pool & big house & just tossed all his equipment in the water on that last shoot thinking he was rich too lol
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Dude in the Prius at the end was showing out for shorty...
Prius 😂😂😂
The Prius.. lmao!
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Yeah man. They both took a bath at the same time 😭
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26 inch form me looks better.
But that's not a fair comparison. One was double diffused one wasn't and you were in harsh sunlight.
True. But it’s not possible to double diffuse the smaller Westcott softbox because it doesn’t allow for it. While the bigger one give you that option. Which is another reason why bigger modifiers are better for softer light.
@@Photomeike oh damn I didn't know. I have a cheap godox diffuser. The 24x24 one it has double diffusion but I HIGHLY doubt you'd ever wanna use that.
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Watch the whole video till the end… it’s there
Smaller softbox = harder edges on the shadows. BTW, I find your choice of backgrounds very distracting and take away from the model. I recommend to either darken the background more, blur it more, or choose a different perspective.
Thanks for watching!