I just dropped a free PDF detailing the training I followed in this video on my website midastouchfitness.com (you can also grab yourself a significantly more effective training program on sale now as well!
Gotta say: nope, it‘s not. You tried this for how long? 2 or 3 days? You think after two days you are able to tell that the method used in the study is flawed and you know better? This is still they guy with the highest gain in muscle mass over that period of time. I love how uneducated Americans are to think this is by any means good content. Thank you for sharing the study though, maybe next time try replicating it and not fail after two days and say it’s not optimal (which could be right after all, but that is not the way to prove it).
@JosefWebber what was the point of the video if you have no physical results? It looks like you're just talking shit without walking the walk. We need a part with results. I'm subscribing just for that part 2.
@wackfood625 he literally added a calorie deficit to a program where you're trying to gain weight. He not only didn't do the whole program, he didn't do the program at all. He's a tard.
@@JosefWebber If you did end up doing the whole 28 day program, you need to use the Nautilus Omni machines. The same ones used in the experiment, only around 7 to 30 of the machines still exist depending on the model.
I think you need to read up on Ellington Darden's account of the final workout Casey did during this period or get his book, which covers this. It explains a lot, especially detail as to how to perform the exercises (form, technique for specific movements, training to failure etc.) Examples would be chins with a supinated, shoulder grip only and rep speed. Look into a pause in the contracted position and much slower on the negative rep. Awesome too see you included the negative chins, though, negative dips would be included as well. If I remember, the leg portion was done first, brief rest then upper body. From this video you dont seem to really be training to momentary failure, or past it, and with pre-exhaust there is zero rest between movements. Its also full body, no split, its all bodybparts every session. People dont realise that this was a huge marketing gimmick for Arthur Jones to help sell his equipment. Casey had an allergic reaction to a anti tetanus shot and got horribly sick which is why he list so much weight. That said he dieted down further beforehand because he was goung to get paid for every pound of muscle gained. The workouts were said to be insanely intense with Arthur instructing Casey and recording weight, reps and time. Even rumoured he pulled a gun on Casey to coax him into doung more reps. He trained past failure as well. The doung so naturally is arguable as Mike Mentzer had stated that Casey confessed to him about using. Arthur was dead set against steroid use, so no idea how this all went down. Finally there was a lot of muscle memory involved in this that Casey regained. Casey was apparently taking in a huge amount of calories as well, and this was mot a 'clean diet', I've read things like milkshakes, burgers, chips.... Arthur Jones actually did these workouts as well to see how he would respond. He didnt look to bad for his age either. According to many Casey was unbelievably strong and used ridiculous weights on the Nautilus machines (another factor you need to look into to recreate this as the design, cam etc played a huge part). Only person said to use more weight than Casey or match him were the Mentzer brothers. *Edit* Accounts from others was Arnold went to Florida to train with Casey and Jones and left before he was meant to, he couldn't handle the workouts, apparently 😂 Great job and video 👌
Subscribed. This was really well put together. Delving into bodybuilding history whilst trying it as your own experiment with your own opinion on it, almost in a documentary-esque style of format. Well done.
1/Viator suffered debilitating forced inactivity after an accident, & lost much muscle. Before the accident, he'd already been as muscular as he is in his 'after' photo. Regaining muscle's much easier than gaining muscle. 2/Before his first weigh-in, Viator was virtually starved & dehydrated, to artificially lower his starting weight even further; after which he was immediately fully hydrated & well-fed. 3/The means to accurately measure body composition weren't available at the time. 4/There's speculation that Viator was sneaking in steroids, & sneaking in traditionally high-volume workouts. 5/Working out on cammed nautilus machines, while being coached by the maniacal Arthur Jones, is exponentially more intense than any other workout.6/Viator's original gains were with high volume.
The Colorado experiment was the furthest thing from scientific. It was a glorified Nautilus advertisement. I have no doubt dude was sneaking juice because even accounting for muscle memory and simply regaining muscle (which was the case. This was not new muscle growth) you don’t put on 63 pounds in 28 days. I mean.. even with steroids, that is extraordinary. Just think about the caloric needs?!? Like how many calories do you need to even eat to gain 63 lbs in 28 days? Not even just muscle. Just body weight in general. Knowing that only a percentage of that can be muscle means you would probably at a bare minimum need to put on like 75-100 pounds total to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. Yea this “experiment” screams red flags to me. Just to give yall an idea of the caloric needs.. around 1lb of body weight gain over the course of a week is about a 500Cal surplus every day. Not JUST muscle. Total body weight. To gain 63 pounds.. you need 15.75lbs per week. So multiply that 500 by 15.75, and you need to be taking in close to an 8,000 Cal surplus every single day.. and that is surplus.. not just total calories.. so assuming you need around 2,000 calories at a baseline.. You’re looking at 10,000 calories a day. That is about what Hafthor Bjornsson ate while competing as the world’s strongest man. That dude is 6’9 400+ lbs.. Is it possible to eat that much? Yes sure if you’re an absolute freak of nature… but most people would get sick if they ate like one of the worlds largest and strongest men. And remember.. he would actually need to gain MORE than 63 pounds to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. so what.. maybe we are looking at 13-15,000+ calories a day? Yea no.. I’m sorry but you just can’t afford to eat like that and you just would get fat.. you would be sick.. this Colorado experiment is just silly.
@@steggy9651 Agreed of course, but fake in a different way: Starting starved & dehydrated, & ending over-hydrated with a full stomach puts over 20 lbs of weight on that tests as lean. Add in the inaccurate body-fat measurements of those days, and the real regained muscle could be closer to 33 lbs.
Yeah people are saying this video is high quality but he doesn't even bring up these points. I heard about this a long time ago but vaguely remembered it. Watching this it seems obvious that's what happened. I have practically no muscle mass right now, I used to have probably 40 lb of additional muscle mass. I could gain that all back in just a few months if I wanted to. That doesn't prove anything at all.
It genuinely looked like you really were passionate about this video, your content quality ❤. Keep working on yourself and on this channel and you'll be a hit
Great video my man. You got a new sub. Hope you keep it up, you deserve to continue doing this if you want. Much better than many other fitness influencers. Appreciate you man, take care. Looking forward to seeing you do well.
Thank you so much bro, got a similar video planned for the future as this one did so well. Similar idea but on a different topic and similar execution in terms of doing 2 videos in 1 (a doing the thing and a talking about the thing)
The gym i have access to dose not have weights heavy enough for me to hit failure at 4-6 reps im trying it also but im in the 32-60 reps to failure range so lets see whay it dose
The Colorado experiment was originally only done with resistance bands. The creator of the Colorado experiment is also the creator of the nautilus machine. These machines use variable weight training, which means that it increases with the more resistance in terms of this machine. Also if you look into Jon Jaquish. The ability of the muscles increases exponentially at a 90° angle maintained by joints. Considering a large part of it was also sleep in diet. If you revisit this experiment, followings, Certain protocols, you actually should see more gains. The reason that the original creator did not use metal weights is because metal weights cause where in tear in both bones, ligaments and tendons in joints and muscles. Which takes away from the energy necessary to heal the muscles. Also, with the excess of calories in the diet, following a certain training regiment should actually result in a lot more muscle. And certain things in your diet can increase the environment necessary for muscles to repair themselves very quickly. Lastly , this is another reason why the workouts were never more than 10 minutes. A workout more than 10 minutes requires more healing than what can be done in a day. So not going over 10 minutes and following the rest of these protocols. With some specifics, of course should end up in a very different result.
Hey Josef. Great video. As someone that's now changed to HIT, and seen better results than ever on some stubborn body parts compare to volume training, there's an error with you're workout. The rep range should be 4 seconds positive, 4 seconds negative with HIT. You're reps seem too quick. That makes a huge difference. Also I prefer 2 exercises per muscle (including compound exercise). I found that gets the best results.
I would train like him everytime over Arnold. Mike Mentzer style heavy duty is so much more logical and doable vs Arnolds half day at the gym style. I train this way for months now and even when I make over 2/3 weeks break I do at least the SAME WEIGHT and reps like the last time. Its unreal!
Did you know that PEDs were legal back when Casey did this experiment and very easy to get. Just ask your doctor for a prescription and go to the pharmacy. And you are correct in assuming that the body fat percentage at the end of the experiment was way off. It was not 2.4% as reported but in fact it looked like Casey picked up a little body fat during the 28 days. Great video. Glad you tried it out.
my mother told me that i should rep slowly shes a physiotherapist, i was a arnold fanboi till i discover mike mentzer, tried hit for 2 weeks straight gain 1.5 inch in biceps + got to upgrade my dumbell weight.
I have a powertec workbench as well, and I was wondering, what are the main or most important exercises I’m missing out on when compared to an actual gym.
If that's all you have then the main things you'll be missing would be any side delt and rear delt work, everything else can be done if you get creative
Well, check this out. Arthur Jones and Nautilus also initiated another experiment, at West Point, called Project Total Conditioning. It involved 20 exercises (including 5 for the next) done thrice a week, one set to failure, for 8 weeks. The 19 subjects gained an average of 58% strength on the machines, BUT lost lean muscle mass AND gained a pound or so of fat. And keep in mind these were genetically gifted guys, football players with an average lean muscle mass of 180 lbs.
wow, people really don't know the story behind this? it's impossible to gain that much NEW muscle in that short of time. Viator had gotten an infection, and lost tons of weight while he battled that. when he recovered, he simply got back up to his normal weight with his normal workouts.
This is true however when most people lose weight via and injury or illness it’s much less than Casey, they regain slower than Casey and train more hence the Arnold example shown. The story is he grew muscle at the fastest rate ever seen
Hey bro i have 2 questions: *How many reps per single set? I've heard from some sources that he was doing 20 reps and in other sources he's doing 6 reps *Are you doing warmup sets ?
i did 1 warm up set for each exercise that worked fresh muscles ie my legs were completely untouched from the upper body work so i did some warm up squats but my biceps had already been worked with the rows so i didn't do warm ups for the curls. I believe the reps i did were 6-8 per set
I lifted with Casey in Deland Florida and Lake Helen Florida with Arthur Jones. He was a natural gainer plus he had just lost a lot of weight after partially severing his little finger. After losing 20 pounds he still looked good. The satellite cells remember a previous level of muscle strength. Hence, it is easier to regain it. Jones was a genius but didn't get everything right. For example, we were forced to wait only 3 seconds while doing super sets, i.e. pre-exhaustion isolation exercise then compound exercise. You can get the same results by waiting 60 to 90 seconds of rest. I believe that Jones inadvertently ruined the heart valves of Casey Viator and of Mike Mentzer. Now, I'm glad I left early to finish a Masters in Biochemistry at the University of Kansas.
"What made it so Special "? WAS... Casey was already with muscle size before this Experiment, he he had a accident where part of finger was severed , and he had a severe reaction to a shot in hospital cause him complications, therefore no training ( time-off0 loss of muscle size , he was rebuilding what he already had in the 1st. place.
Which I explained in the vid, muscle memory. Still crazy how fast he regained it. I lost like 2 lbs of muscle from time off after eye surgery and it took me 9 days to get it back, in 9 days he already gained like 20lbs.
You used lb when talking about weight but your voice tells me your instinct is to use kg. I appreciate you going out your way to make the conversions lol
The Colorado experiment did training to absolute failure and training negatives only, but i understand that you cant really do negative only training with normal equipment , they had special machines where you could help the positive with your legs
BTW: Casey was 19 and I was 18 at the time. I am 71 now and still very much alive and Casey Viator and Mike Mentzer are both deceased. Arnold doesn't look too good nowadays either. Arnold came through briefly. I'm doing something right. I'm still alive and the girls and guys tell me I'm jacked or swole. I use EMS then BFR. Naturally nutrition is of paramount importance.
Hey Joseph , really nice video! I was wondering if I could help you enhance Editing in your videos and also make a highly engaging Thumbnail which will help your video to reach to a wider audience ?
İ personally do high intensity work give results have stronger muscle give strength, but some thing 65carb 25 protein,72 water, etc also recovery must , not mustarbart yourself , related contents , watching in reality etc
Full body workouts don't work. I did it because Jones insisted on it. At the end I said, I think I am about to throw up. Jones said: "Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, everybody feels like that!" Normal people don't have enough energy to recover with Full Body Workouts. You just gotta split the workouts up so your muscle can recover Just be consistent.
You claim not to believe my results, which was 32 pounds in 28 days. Do you also deny other people's results who have reported very similar numbers? I have no records, but there are several recorded accounts. You talk about issues with the colorado experiment, but let's address some of the issues with your recreation. Your cadence is completely off. You need to go much slower 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down. Absolutely no pause at the top or bottom. I don't know how intensely you were exercising, but you should be hitting true muscle failure with every single set. You also talked about the calorie deficit, which I don’t actually remember this being a part of the experiment, maybe I just ignored that part. What I do remember is the ridiculous protein requirements. Eating enough protein was by far the hardest part of this experiment. You also don't mention suppliments at all. He allegedly used no PEDs, but he was definitely pounding sups. Your point about the rest is something I definitely experienced though. I had to extend most rest periods by a day. I also had to very actively work on my recovery during rest days. Hot-cold showers, massages, stretching, etc... This program is not bullshit, but it is very difficult in many different ways, and even if you follow it perfectly you almost certainly will not have results like Mr. Viator however a pound a day or more from my own experience and others seems very achievable with this. EDIT: and you didn't even do the experiment for a month? That fact alone makes this entire video downright silly.
I commend your H.I.T. attempt. However, you will need to do your academic reading first to grasp what High Intensity Training really is. You are confusing aerobic vs anaerobic exercise. So here is a reading list: 1- If You Like Exercise Chances Are You Are Doing It Wrong by Gary Bannister (Arthur Jones Biography) 2- The Arthur Jones Exercise Bulletins (Download the PDF's from the Arthur Jones Web Site. 3- The New High Intensity Training by Ellington Darden 4- The New Bodybuilding For Old School Results by Ellington Darden 5- High Intensity Training The Mike Mentzer Way by Mike Mentzer 6- Body By Science by Dr. Doug McGuff & John Little 7- Training For Mass by Gordon LaVelle (get both editions) The exercises that are to be performed without rest are paired Pre-Exhaust movements. The others have the usual 2-3 min rest. High Intensity Progressive Resistance training is to be dosed like a powerful concentrated DRUG. In the medical dose response manner of Low Frequency and Low Dosing. You Stress and cause Damage to the body while exercising. Then allow the body to first HEAL from damage and then Adapt (GROW) to the Stress applied. By simply giving the body the TIME away from exercise to Heal & then Grow. It is a two step process. So multiple weekly exercise is a No No as you grow stronger. At first, since you are relatively weak, you will be mildly inroading and can perform twice weekly exercise sessions. But as you become Stronger, inroading becomes an issue that will require more off days to Heal & Grow. As for Arnold vs Casey. Apples and Oranges. Arnold was an Ecto Meso and Casey was a Mesomorph. Even though Arnold had a five inch height advantage over Casey. They both weighted the same because Arnold had PUNY Chicken legs. While Casey had TREE TRUNKS for legs with Full Arm and Torso development to match. While at the Nautilus Center, Arnold refused to be photographed next to the Massive teenaged Casey for good reason. As remarkable as the Casey Colorado Experiment was. Jones work with Sergio Oliva was simply mind blowing. Even though Jones knew that Sergio was on PED's. Jones would NOT miss a chance to test his training methods on the MOST Genetically Gifted male bodybuilder at that time era. Segio's Arms grew larger than his Head, his Quads became larger than his waistline and he developed a 30" plus Chest-Waist differential!!!! Truly Comic Book Proportions.
You probably already know this but you should work your left arm more man. The way you hold the bar is assymetrical, and that will kill you intge long run.
This is good but the underlying principle can only really be measured over an extended period of time... The weights are also too low to see significant progress in my opinion. Even Mike Mentzer could bench 4 plates at 15 years old before learning about this training philosophy...
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your duplication of the experiment is flawed from the get go. The experiment was done on Nautilus equipment! You must use the EXACT equipment and you are forgetting that Casey had already built foundation but just had to rebuild it. So he was starting with a good foundation to begin with and people AREN’T just going to duplicate those results. ALSO, there was a lot of negative motion activity in the exercises that Casey was doing (because it activated/engaged the muscle for longer time periods in the reps). Let me give an analogy of what you tried to do: a motorcycle speed record with a moped. Yes, they have two wheels and are motor powered, but they ARE NOT the same!
Hey bro so regarding whether he used steroids or not, I heard Mike Mentzer talk about this. And from what I remember the first 38 or 48 lbs of muscle were natural, and then he hopped on and gained the initial 15 extra lbs of muscle. Nonetheless, with peds, and all that, there's a big change in just one month.
It's not a record because its completely unverified and physically impossible to gain that lean tissue.Water weight ,fat and glycogen possibly but not muscle.
Google Bard: 1)No control group 2)Muscle gains could have been fluid retention or glucogen storage 3)Individual differences weren't adequetly addressed. You: 1)PEDs 2)Muscle memory played a role 3)Despite this HIIT is legit. I think the 'the colorado experiment' is more pseudoscience than science otherwise everyone would be doing it. And from what I can tell CBum is doing it differently. The most important factor IMHO is genetics.
Yeah I agree, I did have water and glycogen down on my notes to speak about but it made the interview part of the video a bit long lol but yes this is correct.
If you think you need fof volume you are not doing the workout properly. I eorked out on nautilus machines in the eighties and admitedley those machines raised the intensity but a properly performed set to actual failure which tbh requires a training partner who can see when you are cheating floors the muscle. I did 12 exersises with small rest inbetween and made the best gains ever. But also if you want the muscle to grow you need to give it time to rest and the fuel in terms of extra calories. Its not complicated and it never will be its just damn hard work. And some people cant do it.
The Colorado experiment was the furthest thing from scientific. It was a glorified Nautilus advertisement. I have no doubt dude was sneaking juice because even accounting for muscle memory and simply regaining muscle (which was the case. This was not new muscle growth) you don’t put on 63 pounds in 28 days. I mean.. even with steroids, that is extraordinary. Just think about the caloric needs?!? Like how many calories do you need to even eat to gain 63 lbs in 28 days? Not even just muscle. Just body weight in general. Knowing that only a percentage of that can be muscle means you would probably at a bare minimum need to put on like 75-100 pounds total to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. Yea this “experiment” screams red flags to me. Just to give yall an idea of the caloric needs.. around 1lb of body weight gain over the course of a week is about a 500Cal surplus every day. Not JUST muscle. Total body weight. To gain 63 pounds.. you need 15.75lbs per week. So multiply that 500 by 15.75, and you need to be taking in close to an 8,000 Cal surplus every single day.. and that is surplus.. not just total calories.. so assuming you need around 2,000 calories at a baseline.. You’re looking at 10,000 calories a day. That is about what Hafthor Bjornsson ate while competing as the world’s strongest man. That dude is 6’9 400+ lbs.. Is it possible to eat that much? Yes sure if you’re an absolute freak of nature… but most people would get sick if they ate like one of the worlds largest and strongest men. And remember.. he would actually need to gain MORE than 63 pounds to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. so what.. maybe we are looking at 13-15,000+ calories a day? Yea no.. I’m sorry but you just can’t afford to eat like that and you just would get fat.. you would be sick.. this Colorado experiment is just silly.
Did you remember to add im the copious amounts of gear? The severe weight cut beforehand? The fact that the subject most definitely ate more calories than the study said? The fact that he probably did workouts outside of what was prescribed for the experiment? Just wondering because you know this "experiment" was utter bullshit right? It is so flawed, and there's so much data manipulation in it that i cant honestly believe people still take it seriously.
U said ppl gain muscle in prep? That aint true, arnold was lighter bcus most likely he was at a lower bf% so also a lower weight (Havent looked at the numbers but seems common sense to me) Edit: Ahh u said that later in, mb
Great video. But... You didn't "try the workout." You did 1 session A and 1 session B. If a work out is to perform 100 pull ups and 100 push ups every day for 30 days and you do 1 day of each, then you didn't do the workout. Try again but this time, commit.
I just dropped a free PDF detailing the training I followed in this video on my website midastouchfitness.com (you can also grab yourself a significantly more effective training program on sale now as well!
I was watching this video and i thought you were some big youtuber but then I realized that you were not. Very high quality video well done!
Thank you very much mate wow
Was thinking exactly the same
@@julienylieff9188 legend man thank you for the support
Same bro, keep it up
Gotta say: nope, it‘s not. You tried this for how long? 2 or 3 days?
You think after two days you are able to tell that the method used in the study is flawed and you know better? This is still they guy with the highest gain in muscle mass over that period of time.
I love how uneducated Americans are to think this is by any means good content.
Thank you for sharing the study though, maybe next time try replicating it and not fail after two days and say it’s not optimal (which could be right after all, but that is not the way to prove it).
I was expecting you to try the whole 28 day program, that would be a really worth-watching video!
Maybe maybe I’ll do that at some point, although I was planning a different 30 day program at the time of doing this which comes out soon
@JosefWebber what was the point of the video if you have no physical results? It looks like you're just talking shit without walking the walk. We need a part with results. I'm subscribing just for that part 2.
U need to do those exe. with HIT style @@JosefWebber
@wackfood625 he literally added a calorie deficit to a program where you're trying to gain weight. He not only didn't do the whole program, he didn't do the program at all. He's a tard.
@@JosefWebber If you did end up doing the whole 28 day program, you need to use the Nautilus Omni machines. The same ones used in the experiment, only around 7 to 30 of the machines still exist depending on the model.
Really well made video, script and editing! Looking forward to seeing your channel grow :)
As an aside, your home gym set-up is incredible!
thanks man, means a lot. Yeah I got pretty lucky having parents into exercise lmao, makes it much easier for me lol
@@JosefWebber great to see they've inspired you so much and you're putting the home gym to great use!
I watched this video from the short you posted and it exceeded my expectations. Great vid
Wow thank you so much, that’s made my day lol
I think you need to read up on Ellington Darden's account of the final workout Casey did during this period or get his book, which covers this. It explains a lot, especially detail as to how to perform the exercises (form, technique for specific movements, training to failure etc.) Examples would be chins with a supinated, shoulder grip only and rep speed. Look into a pause in the contracted position and much slower on the negative rep. Awesome too see you included the negative chins, though, negative dips would be included as well. If I remember, the leg portion was done first, brief rest then upper body.
From this video you dont seem to really be training to momentary failure, or past it, and with pre-exhaust there is zero rest between movements. Its also full body, no split, its all bodybparts every session.
People dont realise that this was a huge marketing gimmick for Arthur Jones to help sell his equipment.
Casey had an allergic reaction to a anti tetanus shot and got horribly sick which is why he list so much weight. That said he dieted down further beforehand because he was goung to get paid for every pound of muscle gained.
The workouts were said to be insanely intense with Arthur instructing Casey and recording weight, reps and time. Even rumoured he pulled a gun on Casey to coax him into doung more reps. He trained past failure as well. The doung so naturally is arguable as Mike Mentzer had stated that Casey confessed to him about using.
Arthur was dead set against steroid use, so no idea how this all went down. Finally there was a lot of muscle memory involved in this that Casey regained. Casey was apparently taking in a huge amount of calories as well, and this was mot a 'clean diet', I've read things like milkshakes, burgers, chips....
Arthur Jones actually did these workouts as well to see how he would respond. He didnt look to bad for his age either. According to many Casey was unbelievably strong and used ridiculous weights on the Nautilus machines (another factor you need to look into to recreate this as the design, cam etc played a huge part).
Only person said to use more weight than Casey or match him were the Mentzer brothers.
*Edit* Accounts from others was Arnold went to Florida to train with Casey and Jones and left before he was meant to, he couldn't handle the workouts, apparently 😂
Great job and video 👌
Can’t lie bro this video is absolutely phenomenal loved watching it keep it up bro you’re going places 👏👏
means the world bro, put a lot into it, thank you sm🙏
Amazing video, just found your channel with this video.
Subscribed. This was really well put together. Delving into bodybuilding history whilst trying it as your own experiment with your own opinion on it, almost in a documentary-esque style of format. Well done.
That’s exactly what I was going for thank you
Thank you for making this video. I really wanted to know more about this experiment
Thanks for watching it lol!
Enjoyed the video, found it from the short. Interested in your future topics, keep it up!
Much appreciated bro that’s music to my ears as a small TH-camr
respect bro, keep it up 💪💪💪
You did so well on this video! I don't follow many weight lifting channels, but I signed up! Good luck, and thank you for the detailed information!
Wow, thank you very much
Fantastic video. The concept, editing, presentation and overall package was excellent - Looking forward to seeing this channel blow up 💪🏽🥳
Much appreciated bro means the world, so many nice comments like this it makes it all worth it
1/Viator suffered debilitating forced inactivity after an accident, & lost much muscle. Before the accident, he'd already been as muscular as he is in his 'after' photo. Regaining muscle's much easier than gaining muscle. 2/Before his first weigh-in, Viator was virtually starved & dehydrated, to artificially lower his starting weight even further; after which he was immediately fully hydrated & well-fed. 3/The means to accurately measure body composition weren't available at the time. 4/There's speculation that Viator was sneaking in steroids, & sneaking in traditionally high-volume workouts. 5/Working out on cammed nautilus machines, while being coached by the maniacal Arthur Jones, is exponentially more intense than any other workout.6/Viator's original gains were with high volume.
The Colorado experiment was the furthest thing from scientific. It was a glorified Nautilus advertisement.
I have no doubt dude was sneaking juice because even accounting for muscle memory and simply regaining muscle (which was the case. This was not new muscle growth) you don’t put on 63 pounds in 28 days.
I mean.. even with steroids, that is extraordinary. Just think about the caloric needs?!? Like how many calories do you need to even eat to gain 63 lbs in 28 days? Not even just muscle. Just body weight in general. Knowing that only a percentage of that can be muscle means you would probably at a bare minimum need to put on like 75-100 pounds total to put on 63 pounds of muscle..
Yea this “experiment” screams red flags to me.
Just to give yall an idea of the caloric needs.. around 1lb of body weight gain over the course of a week is about a 500Cal surplus every day. Not JUST muscle. Total body weight. To gain 63 pounds.. you need 15.75lbs per week.
So multiply that 500 by 15.75, and you need to be taking in close to an 8,000 Cal surplus every single day.. and that is surplus.. not just total calories.. so assuming you need around 2,000 calories at a baseline..
You’re looking at 10,000 calories a day. That is about what Hafthor Bjornsson ate while competing as the world’s strongest man. That dude is 6’9 400+ lbs..
Is it possible to eat that much? Yes sure if you’re an absolute freak of nature… but most people would get sick if they ate like one of the worlds largest and strongest men.
And remember.. he would actually need to gain MORE than 63 pounds to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. so what.. maybe we are looking at 13-15,000+ calories a day? Yea no.. I’m sorry but you just can’t afford to eat like that and you just would get fat.. you would be sick..
this Colorado experiment is just silly.
@@steggy9651 Agreed of course, but fake in a different way: Starting starved & dehydrated, & ending over-hydrated with a full stomach puts over 20 lbs of weight on that tests as lean. Add in the inaccurate body-fat measurements of those days, and the real regained muscle could be closer to 33 lbs.
Yeah people are saying this video is high quality but he doesn't even bring up these points. I heard about this a long time ago but vaguely remembered it. Watching this it seems obvious that's what happened.
I have practically no muscle mass right now, I used to have probably 40 lb of additional muscle mass. I could gain that all back in just a few months if I wanted to. That doesn't prove anything at all.
It genuinely looked like you really were passionate about this video, your content quality ❤. Keep working on yourself and on this channel and you'll be a hit
Thank you so much!
Love it, subbed my guy!
Great job on the video, I’m sure I’ll be seeing you with millions of subscribers in the future! Keep up the good work!
Keep it up , u are doing great, video quality editing everything is good best of luck ❤.
Thank you so much mate, means the world
Great video my man. You got a new sub. Hope you keep it up, you deserve to continue doing this if you want. Much better than many other fitness influencers. Appreciate you man, take care. Looking forward to seeing you do well.
Thank you so much bro, got a similar video planned for the future as this one did so well. Similar idea but on a different topic and similar execution in terms of doing 2 videos in 1 (a doing the thing and a talking about the thing)
Can I get a list of the exercises?
Soon, will drop on my IG
The gym i have access to dose not have weights heavy enough for me to hit failure at 4-6 reps im trying it also but im in the 32-60 reps to failure range so lets see whay it dose
32-60?! That's crazy I've never tried anything like that, how is it enjoyability wise?
A huge youtuber in the making. Good luck pal!😊
I think im gonna try this with some slight modifications, after my 40 day water fast. My pants dont fit, im not buying new ones.
40 DAYS?! That’s crazy fair play
Nice Editing
thank you bro
its true,his genetics,nautilus machines and high intensity exercise method of stimulating muscular strength
The Colorado experiment was originally only done with resistance bands. The creator of the Colorado experiment is also the creator of the nautilus machine. These machines use variable weight training, which means that it increases with the more resistance in terms of this machine. Also if you look into Jon Jaquish. The ability of the muscles increases exponentially at a 90° angle maintained by joints. Considering a large part of it was also sleep in diet. If you revisit this experiment, followings, Certain protocols, you actually should see more gains. The reason that the original creator did not use metal weights is because metal weights cause where in tear in both bones, ligaments and tendons in joints and muscles. Which takes away from the energy necessary to heal the muscles. Also, with the excess of calories in the diet, following a certain training regiment should actually result in a lot more muscle. And certain things in your diet can increase the environment necessary for muscles to repair themselves very quickly.
Lastly , this is another reason why the workouts were never more than 10 minutes. A workout more than 10 minutes requires more healing than what can be done in a day. So not going over 10 minutes and following the rest of these protocols. With some specifics, of course should end up in a very different result.
Well done!
Colorado experiment guy absolutely evolved. Genetic phenom.
Legit lmao
Wow. That’s a smol channel. Good video quality man. You’ll grow your channel in no time.
Much appreciated mate thank you, glad you liked it
Only 948 subs , that's criminal , the algorithm needs to expose u more
Seems like it has a little in the last 12 days, thank you bro😅
Fire video bro!
appreciate it boss, more to come
Alex Bromley has a Great video breaking down this experiment... He posted it a few months ago...
haven't seen, will have to check it out
@@JosefWebber well worth a look
Hey Josef. Great video. As someone that's now changed to HIT, and seen better results than ever on some stubborn body parts compare to volume training, there's an error with you're workout. The rep range should be 4 seconds positive, 4 seconds negative with HIT. You're reps seem too quick. That makes a huge difference. Also I prefer 2 exercises per muscle (including compound exercise). I found that gets the best results.
good video bro
Thank you man
What is the EF score? Have you done other workouts with this tier list?
Yeah I’ve done a bunch all posted as shorts on this channel
And EF is just a little scoring system I made up combining the scores for ‘effectiveness’ and ‘fun’
Can i have the link to this routine, id like to try this out.
I would train like him everytime over Arnold. Mike Mentzer style heavy duty is so much more logical and doable vs Arnolds half day at the gym style. I train this way for months now and even when I make over 2/3 weeks break I do at least the SAME WEIGHT and reps like the last time. Its unreal!
Did you know that PEDs were legal back when Casey did this experiment and very easy to get. Just ask your doctor for a prescription and go to the pharmacy. And you are correct in assuming that the body fat percentage at the end of the experiment was way off. It was not 2.4% as reported but in fact it looked like Casey picked up a little body fat during the 28 days. Great video. Glad you tried it out.
my mother told me that i should rep slowly shes a physiotherapist, i was a arnold fanboi till i discover mike mentzer, tried hit for 2 weeks straight gain 1.5 inch in biceps + got to upgrade my dumbell weight.
solid advice for hypertrophy yes, increases time under tension, nice work bro!
I have a powertec workbench as well, and I was wondering, what are the main or most important exercises I’m missing out on when compared to an actual gym.
If that's all you have then the main things you'll be missing would be any side delt and rear delt work, everything else can be done if you get creative
9:40 its not impressive at all. gaining mass after being dehydrated, detrained, and taking anabolics is par for the course.
It’s not just gaining mass it’s gaining nearly 50lbs of mass
@JosefWebber again that's not impressive. It's very possible to gain tens of pounds of water in a day alone.
Could also help back in the 70s men had more testosterone which makes it easier to build muscle
Love this chanel.
Means the world man thank you
Well, check this out. Arthur Jones and Nautilus also initiated another experiment, at West Point, called Project Total Conditioning. It involved 20 exercises (including 5 for the next) done thrice a week, one set to failure, for 8 weeks. The 19 subjects gained an average of 58% strength on the machines, BUT lost lean muscle mass AND gained a pound or so of fat. And keep in mind these were genetically gifted guys, football players with an average lean muscle mass of 180 lbs.
wow, people really don't know the story behind this? it's impossible to gain that much NEW muscle in that short of time. Viator had gotten an infection, and lost tons of weight while he battled that. when he recovered, he simply got back up to his normal weight with his normal workouts.
This is true however when most people lose weight via and injury or illness it’s much less than Casey, they regain slower than Casey and train more hence the Arnold example shown. The story is he grew muscle at the fastest rate ever seen
@@JosefWebber it's false, it's not NEW muscle, add in his steroid usage and this story is a nothing burger, been debunked many times
Do you have a link for the workout used for the colorado experiment??
Reminds me a bit of factfiend with the history and slight story while doing the workouts good job
Not sure what that is but thank you😅
Hey bro i have 2 questions:
*How many reps per single set? I've heard from some sources that he was doing 20 reps and in other sources he's doing 6 reps
*Are you doing warmup sets ?
i did 1 warm up set for each exercise that worked fresh muscles ie my legs were completely untouched from the upper body work so i did some warm up squats but my biceps had already been worked with the rows so i didn't do warm ups for the curls. I believe the reps i did were 6-8 per set
I lifted with Casey in Deland Florida and Lake Helen Florida with Arthur Jones. He was a natural gainer plus he had just lost a lot of weight after partially severing his little finger. After losing 20 pounds he still looked good. The satellite cells remember a previous level of muscle strength. Hence, it is easier to regain it.
Jones was a genius but didn't get everything right. For example, we were forced to wait only 3 seconds while doing super sets, i.e. pre-exhaustion isolation exercise then compound exercise. You can get the same results by waiting 60 to 90 seconds of rest. I believe that Jones inadvertently ruined the heart valves of Casey Viator and of Mike Mentzer. Now, I'm glad I left early to finish a Masters in Biochemistry at the University of Kansas.
good video bro :)
Appreciate it boss
"What made it so Special "? WAS... Casey was already with muscle size before this Experiment, he he had a accident where part of finger was severed , and he had a severe reaction to a shot in hospital cause him complications, therefore no training ( time-off0 loss of muscle size , he was rebuilding what he already had in the 1st. place.
Which I explained in the vid, muscle memory.
Still crazy how fast he regained it. I lost like 2 lbs of muscle from time off after eye surgery and it took me 9 days to get it back, in 9 days he already gained like 20lbs.
nice vid brah
Appreciate it bro
So you do 1 set of every exercise and with resistance ?
If you want to follow this workout then yeah
You used lb when talking about weight but your voice tells me your instinct is to use kg. I appreciate you going out your way to make the conversions lol
Nah I’m just weird, I’m from the Uk but I use lbs when it comes to weight as I watch combat sports
The Colorado experiment did training to absolute failure and training negatives only, but i understand that you cant really do negative only training with normal equipment , they had special machines where you could help the positive with your legs
The training is irrelevant, you cannot gain that much in a year,never mind a month even with all the drugs you want.
@@scarred10 depends how much you are willing to pin. But yes, you are right
i did this training for a 33 days i gained 8kgs of muscle
But you never tried it for a month
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BTW: Casey was 19 and I was 18 at the time. I am 71 now and still very much alive and Casey Viator and Mike Mentzer are both deceased. Arnold doesn't look too good nowadays either. Arnold came through briefly. I'm doing something right. I'm still alive and the girls and guys tell me I'm jacked or swole. I use EMS then BFR. Naturally nutrition is of paramount importance.
Hey Joseph , really nice video! I was wondering if I could help you enhance Editing in your videos and also make a highly engaging Thumbnail which will help your video to reach to a wider audience ?
Would be down however as a channel with 500 subs I cannot afford an editor lol
What was your results bro ??
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İ personally do high intensity work give results have stronger muscle give strength, but some thing 65carb 25 protein,72 water, etc also recovery must , not mustarbart yourself , related contents , watching in reality etc
Huh
2:03 that the sound of a minecraft item dropping right here
Full body workouts don't work. I did it because Jones insisted on it. At the end I said, I think I am about to throw up. Jones said: "Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, everybody feels like that!" Normal people don't have enough energy to recover with Full Body Workouts. You just gotta split the workouts up so your muscle can recover Just be consistent.
Hey, what's your actual gym program?
Currently I run the following:
WEEK A:
Monday - Back, Triceps, Abs + Sprints
Tuesday - Chest, Shoulders, Biceps + Rugby
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps, Neck, Abs + Rugby
Friday - Upper Body (Athletical)
Saturday - Rugby
Sunday - Back, Triceps, Abs
WEEK B:
Monday - Legs
Tuesday - Chest, Shoulders, Biceps + Rugby
Wednesday - Sprints + Back, Triceps, Abs
Thursday - Legs (Athletical) + Rugby
Friday - Upper Body (Mix) 2
Saturday - Rugby
Sunday - Rest
Sounds complicated, will make a video on it at some point
@@JosefWebber Actually I found it really good looking, now I'm off season and I might try it. Do you recommend it for off season?
You claim not to believe my results, which was 32 pounds in 28 days. Do you also deny other people's results who have reported very similar numbers? I have no records, but there are several recorded accounts.
You talk about issues with the colorado experiment, but let's address some of the issues with your recreation.
Your cadence is completely off. You need to go much slower 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down. Absolutely no pause at the top or bottom.
I don't know how intensely you were exercising, but you should be hitting true muscle failure with every single set.
You also talked about the calorie deficit, which I don’t actually remember this being a part of the experiment, maybe I just ignored that part. What I do remember is the ridiculous protein requirements. Eating enough protein was by far the hardest part of this experiment.
You also don't mention suppliments at all. He allegedly used no PEDs, but he was definitely pounding sups.
Your point about the rest is something I definitely experienced though. I had to extend most rest periods by a day. I also had to very actively work on my recovery during rest days. Hot-cold showers, massages, stretching, etc...
This program is not bullshit, but it is very difficult in many different ways, and even if you follow it perfectly you almost certainly will not have results like Mr. Viator however a pound a day or more from my own experience and others seems very achievable with this.
EDIT: and you didn't even do the experiment for a month? That fact alone makes this entire video downright silly.
Didn’t read lol
@@JosefWebber TL;DR
You didn't get any part of the experiment correct.
@JosefWebber Goodluck with your channel. It's gonna be tough as an ignorant *sshole.
@@JosefWebberwhy not try it for a month.
What’s the workout? I’ve looked everywhere but I still can’t figure it out.
1. Viator REGAINED 63 pounds
2. He used nautilus machines that are better than free weights and bodyweight training
3. He trained for 28 days
I commend your H.I.T. attempt. However, you will need to do your academic reading first to grasp what High Intensity Training really is. You are confusing aerobic vs anaerobic exercise. So here is a reading list:
1- If You Like Exercise Chances Are You Are Doing It Wrong by Gary Bannister (Arthur Jones Biography)
2- The Arthur Jones Exercise Bulletins (Download the PDF's from the Arthur Jones Web Site.
3- The New High Intensity Training by Ellington Darden
4- The New Bodybuilding For Old School Results by Ellington Darden
5- High Intensity Training The Mike Mentzer Way by Mike Mentzer
6- Body By Science by Dr. Doug McGuff & John Little
7- Training For Mass by Gordon LaVelle (get both editions)
The exercises that are to be performed without rest are paired Pre-Exhaust movements. The others have the usual 2-3 min rest. High Intensity Progressive Resistance training is to be dosed like a powerful concentrated DRUG. In the medical dose response manner of Low Frequency and Low Dosing. You Stress and cause Damage to the body while exercising. Then allow the body to first HEAL from damage and then Adapt (GROW) to the Stress applied. By simply giving the body the TIME away from exercise to Heal & then Grow. It is a two step process. So multiple weekly exercise is a No No as you grow stronger. At first, since you are relatively weak, you will be mildly inroading and can perform twice weekly exercise sessions. But as you become Stronger, inroading becomes an issue that will require more off days to Heal & Grow.
As for Arnold vs Casey. Apples and Oranges. Arnold was an Ecto Meso and Casey was a Mesomorph. Even though Arnold had a five inch height advantage over Casey. They both weighted the same because Arnold had PUNY Chicken legs. While Casey had TREE TRUNKS for legs with Full Arm and Torso development to match. While at the Nautilus Center, Arnold refused to be photographed next to the Massive teenaged Casey for good reason. As remarkable as the Casey Colorado Experiment was. Jones work with Sergio Oliva was simply mind blowing. Even though Jones knew that Sergio was on PED's. Jones would NOT miss a chance to test his training methods on the MOST Genetically Gifted male bodybuilder at that time era. Segio's Arms grew larger than his Head, his Quads became larger than his waistline and he developed a 30" plus Chest-Waist differential!!!! Truly Comic Book Proportions.
subscribed, great video
You probably already know this but you should work your left arm more man. The way you hold the bar is assymetrical, and that will kill you intge long run.
I try to do an extra set of curls just on my left when doing arms but I always forget💀
You need to train more intense your next video should be about Mike Mentzer
Or dorian yates
This is not the Colorado experiment. They used almost all negatives. They had special machines that could do negatives.
This is good but the underlying principle can only really be measured over an extended period of time... The weights are also too low to see significant progress in my opinion. Even Mike Mentzer could bench 4 plates at 15 years old before learning about this training philosophy...
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your duplication of the experiment is flawed from the get go.
The experiment was done on Nautilus equipment! You must use the EXACT equipment and you are forgetting that Casey had already built foundation but just had to rebuild it. So he was starting with a good foundation to begin with and people AREN’T just going to duplicate those results. ALSO, there was a lot of negative motion activity in the exercises that Casey was doing (because it activated/engaged the muscle for longer time periods in the reps).
Let me give an analogy of what you tried to do: a motorcycle speed record with a moped. Yes, they have two wheels and are motor powered, but they ARE NOT the same!
Try it the entire 28 betaaa
Hey bro so regarding whether he used steroids or not, I heard Mike Mentzer talk about this.
And from what I remember the first 38 or 48 lbs of muscle were natural, and then he hopped on and gained the initial 15 extra lbs of muscle.
Nonetheless, with peds, and all that, there's a big change in just one month.
Very interesting, very impressive if true too I thought more would be from steroids
It's not a record because its completely unverified and physically impossible to gain that lean tissue.Water weight ,fat and glycogen possibly but not muscle.
Is that your parents house?
Is that your parents gym?
Parent* now but yes it is indeed bro
I know that Arthur Jones was lying. He lied about other stuff too. He's a sales man
Google Bard:
1)No control group
2)Muscle gains could have been fluid retention or glucogen storage
3)Individual differences weren't adequetly addressed.
You:
1)PEDs
2)Muscle memory played a role
3)Despite this HIIT is legit.
I think the 'the colorado experiment' is more pseudoscience than science otherwise everyone would be doing it. And from what I can tell CBum is doing it differently. The most important factor IMHO is genetics.
Yeah I agree, I did have water and glycogen down on my notes to speak about but it made the interview part of the video a bit long lol but yes this is correct.
If you think you need fof volume you are not doing the workout properly. I eorked out on nautilus machines in the eighties and admitedley those machines raised the intensity but a properly performed set to actual failure which tbh requires a training partner who can see when you are cheating floors the muscle. I did 12 exersises with small rest inbetween and made the best gains ever. But also if you want the muscle to grow you need to give it time to rest and the fuel in terms of extra calories. Its not complicated and it never will be its just damn hard work. And some people cant do it.
His last name is pronounced Vee-Uh-Tar
Skill issue, should’ve spelt it different
First
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Whatchu think of the vid??
The Colorado experiment was the furthest thing from scientific. It was a glorified Nautilus advertisement.
I have no doubt dude was sneaking juice because even accounting for muscle memory and simply regaining muscle (which was the case. This was not new muscle growth) you don’t put on 63 pounds in 28 days.
I mean.. even with steroids, that is extraordinary. Just think about the caloric needs?!? Like how many calories do you need to even eat to gain 63 lbs in 28 days? Not even just muscle. Just body weight in general. Knowing that only a percentage of that can be muscle means you would probably at a bare minimum need to put on like 75-100 pounds total to put on 63 pounds of muscle..
Yea this “experiment” screams red flags to me.
Just to give yall an idea of the caloric needs.. around 1lb of body weight gain over the course of a week is about a 500Cal surplus every day. Not JUST muscle. Total body weight. To gain 63 pounds.. you need 15.75lbs per week.
So multiply that 500 by 15.75, and you need to be taking in close to an 8,000 Cal surplus every single day.. and that is surplus.. not just total calories.. so assuming you need around 2,000 calories at a baseline..
You’re looking at 10,000 calories a day. That is about what Hafthor Bjornsson ate while competing as the world’s strongest man. That dude is 6’9 400+ lbs..
Is it possible to eat that much? Yes sure if you’re an absolute freak of nature… but most people would get sick if they ate like one of the worlds largest and strongest men.
And remember.. he would actually need to gain MORE than 63 pounds to put on 63 pounds of muscle.. so what.. maybe we are looking at 13-15,000+ calories a day? Yea no.. I’m sorry but you just can’t afford to eat like that and you just would get fat.. you would be sick..
this Colorado experiment is just silly.
Did you remember to add im the copious amounts of gear? The severe weight cut beforehand? The fact that the subject most definitely ate more calories than the study said? The fact that he probably did workouts outside of what was prescribed for the experiment? Just wondering because you know this "experiment" was utter bullshit right? It is so flawed, and there's so much data manipulation in it that i cant honestly believe people still take it seriously.
look at his age , and remember he's the youngest mr. america -EVER 19 YEARS OLD
God tier genetics
Mate, you should’ve gone for 30 days straight. It would be much more interesting.
True but would’ve taken a lot longer and I had a different 30 day video I wanted to make that I just posted😅
interesting
you will be big keep working at it mate
Appreciate it mate thank you
That's impossible to gain that much muscle that fast
If you watch all the way through it’s explained how it occurred
Entertaining vid. Colorado experiment is total BS though
U said ppl gain muscle in prep? That aint true, arnold was lighter bcus most likely he was at a lower bf% so also a lower weight
(Havent looked at the numbers but seems common sense to me)
Edit: Ahh u said that later in, mb
all good bro lol dw
Great video.
But...
You didn't "try the workout." You did 1 session A and 1 session B. If a work out is to perform 100 pull ups and 100 push ups every day for 30 days and you do 1 day of each, then you didn't do the workout.
Try again but this time, commit.
Nah
@JosefWebber lol. You realize that my suggestion was to commit to something? And your response was, "Nah."
of course you have to rest much more, cause as you said, he was definitely on gear and you are not 😉👍💪