nah we had that in exams in 5th-8th grade.. had a few notes given and they would play a melody and we had to add the missing notes or guess the accords. but i had music as a main subject, the bavarian school system is weird lol
@@BrightLikeSnowright! I need do-mi-la, not 1-3-6 Also the A and B in the beginning confused me cause I was thinking at first they meant note names and I went “hang on that’s not-“ 😂
I love how this repeated the sound of going up like 6 different times but then just basically gives us 8 notes to memorize and associate with numbers at the end
Personally I thought it was fine that they played the last part once because it was always a do-re-mi progression, though it was definitely overkill to do so many examples of going up lol
I had a friend who had vocal tone-deafness: if I played a note on the piano, he couldn't match it at all with his voice (by several notes.) But without looking he could match it with his flute. So he could hear the note correctly, but couldn't tell that he wasn't singing it correctly. A very strange kind of tonal dyslexia.
i'm like this! I played the piano for almost 14 years, so i learned to identify notes quite well... but if i'm asket to sing the note.. well... 8/10 times i sing the wrong note
it’s also probably what he has practice with! if he doesn’t sing often, he wouldn’t have the practice to easily recreate the sound that way, even if he knew what it should sound like. if he was a good flutist, he would be able to! pretty cool actually
omg i’m like this lol i study music and it’s so frustrating tbh but at least i can recognise the notes i just can’t make my voice co operate with my head
It's more about not having control over your voice. I sing and play the piano, both non-professionally and sometimes I can hear a note perfectly but I just can't reach it with my voice, because I have little control over it. Especially if it's low-high-low transitions. That's why I do vocal exercise for agility and flexibility of voice.
Isn't this pretty normal? When I hum a note it usually doesn't come out the way I hear it in my head, but I feel like I could improve with training. Isn't this half the reason singing is considered a skill, rather than an innate human ability?
Even if you have perfect pitch, being able to know how far apart the notes are in the last section uses a completely different part of the brain. It takes a lot of practice, had to take interval tests in music class once a month. It's definitely something that requires practice.
People seem worried about the numbers part but honestly that’s a little more advanced than something most people just know with no prior learning! When I took singing classes we regularly had exercises for trying to memorize the octave notes and being able to name them just by ear. That’s something you usually have to train unless you’re born with “perfect pitch” like it says at the start of the video, but that’s not all that common. So don’t worry y’all it’s normal to not pass that part lol
We did this kind of interval training when I took choir in high school. I'm a little rusty now (it's been over 20 years) but I managed to get these with a little bit of time to listen and think. Back then, though, we trained intervals all the time and I definitely would have gotten them right away. It's definitely a skill learned through training. You don't have to be born with it to succeed.
The relative pick part is a huge jump in difficulty. It's a skill that actually needs to be trained. (I actually got the 1-5 ratio and I'm really proud of that.)
If you're really trying to learn how to sing, try humming and reading aloud for long periods of time. Makes you utilize muscles you don't usually and helps build strength and stamina. Biggest thing other than that is record yourself. Sucks to listen to your own voice at the start but once you get used to it you'll notice your strengths and weaknesses better so you can address them properly. Start small though and stay hydrated, don't hurt yourself.
Guys trust the relative pitch stuff is harder than the rest by a mile I’ve had 10+ years of formal piano training and I still don’t have perfect pitch or anything but this skill is something you develop after years of hearing music in the application phase, where you are playing it instead of just hearing it. Understanding why something sounds the way it does helps with building these skills a lot, just stick to your practice and you’ll get there!
I actually do have perfect pitch, and for me it was playing violin/being around music my entire life!! Also, it really helped that I was trained in Suzuki, where there is NO movable Do: Do simply is Do, Fa simply is Fa, So simply is So, and so on. Also, it is mean that I love the fact that I make people uncomfortable when they ask for a pitch and I give it, and they’re unconvinced so they go play it on the piano and I was right 😂
@@isabelabernathy5116 oh wow my story is the exact same haha. I have perfect pitch and started cello when I was four and now I have been playing for almost 13 years! I spent my first 5 years on Suzuki and then switched over to more advanced solo repertoire plus a ton of chamber music (pieces like death and the maiden). I truly believe that Suzuki did help me cultivate perfect pitch as well, though others think otherwise.
Although I have relative pitch, I’ve shown my friends some stuff and I can say for sure that in their perspective it was waaay harder than I think it is
As long as you don't have an aural issue, your voice can be trained to repeat a note that you've heard. It's a muscle memory thing, kind of like knowing how to sight read music, especially on an instrument like a violin. When I play a piece on the piano, I almost always know when I've played something wrong, even before I get the aural feedback. My fingers know where they should be, even if they refuse to go there.
I can hear any sound and instantly recreate it perfectly by whistling, but actually being able to mathematically say how 'far apart' notes are from each other... I had to memorize the scale and then play it back in my head a bunch of times to figure it out. I suppose this must be one of those things that would improve with practice.
Yep, it's definitely something you can learn. I'm very good at recognising 1-4 and 1-5 because I spent a lot of time playing Timpani and this is the most common spacing when tuning those for different pieces. 1-2 and 1-8 are obvious. 1-3 and 1-6 I can guess from them being a bit off from 1-4 and 1-5 which I learned. and 1-7 is just one down from the full octave. Now, if we went into half steps my brain would be confused.
Yep intervals like 1-5 1-4 1-3 1-2m 1-2M and 1-8 are very easy to recognize, for 1-4 you can use songs like The International's 2 first notes.. but the rest comes with allot of practice
Failed stage 6, I feel like it was a bit too quick. I'm unfamiliar with scales and can't recognize chord progressions. But recognizing tones seems achievable if I spent more time studying. Fun Video! Thanks!
It was a bit tricky but I just hummed the scale and recognized the 3 notes relative to the other notes in that scale. I def have a relative pitch but not perfect unfortunately :( I have been playing the piano for a while tho so it might have to do with that
Don’t feel bad. I posted another spot on this video that that is a very weighted test. Music students take multiple years of training in that area. It is not something that people are just expected to be able to do. It says nothing of “tone deafness”.
I absolutely failed the last one horribly, my brain Just couldn't compute hearing the scale numbers out of order. This did help me learn that I need to Improve on my skill of Identifying scale sequences, so thank you!
This was a super fun way to find out I'm at least sort of tone deaf and definitely can't understand pitch. You can never have too many skills to suck at!
At least i'm not tone deaf, though i don't know that relative pitch thing. As long as I am able to listen to music and sing it (with shtty voice) all is fine.
The "numbers" section is part of ear training, which I had back in music college. There's no secret to it; you just gotta sit down, and take the time to listen to the relationship between the pitches. The way I do it is I associate the intervals with feelings and emotions. It's sorta like mnemonics for music.
Transcribing music by ear really helped me before I took Aural Skills classes my first two years. It's also fun as well since it's almost like a puzzle or game to put all the tracks together of your favorite piece of music, whether it be through notation or a DAW software. It's how I did a recreation of the Beach Boys Pet Sounds album
Some are super easy: 1 to 2, because we're so used to hearing them next to each other anyway when starting up a scale, and the 7, because has so much tension to resolve to the octave. That really just leaves the 3, 4, 5, and 6 to worry about.
The last part got me, I could tell generally where the scale started and ended but couldn't be sure on the exact numbers. This is actually surprising as I figured I was tone deaf because I sound like a tortured seal being flung between two orcas when I sing...
These are completely different skills in different parts of the body! Singing is stuff in your throat and lungs, tone identification is stuff in your brain and ears ☺️
Tip for the stage 6 that I used: if you know how any major scale would sound like based on its first note, remember that first note and you can figure out the sequence by recreating the major scale with that tone (I was humming it) and compare and find the notes there. Three notes were a little difficult to me tho. Edit: oh shit this exploded.
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getting the 1-3-6 made me smile. my high school choir teacher taught us to determine intervals like that in individual lessons, and it brought me back to all those memories.
Well, I'm not tone deaf. But my ADHD made those last few sections really difficult due to the issues with working memory. However I could identify that each sound was different. Maybe after learning them a bit more, I could identify them. But for now, for me, it's a memory game.
I don't now if this is just me but this seemed like more of a memory exercise than a tone deaf. I have been taking voice lessons for quite a while now and the way we practice pitch is playing one note and then singing the note right above it or an octave above it. especially with the numbers part, I couldn't remember what the last note was. edit: I kinda phrased my comment poorly a little, it wasn't "mostly" memorization. I get that it is difficult to create a tone deaf test if the person isn't sitting in front of you. And I'm sure you can find great ways to bypass the relying on your memory and overall does a good job of saying if you are tone deaf or not, I've also been informed that it tests the pitch in your mind with the memory parts.
Well even if you have good memory, you won’t be able to pass the last section without having a good ear … so yes, on the one hand it is kinda a memory test, but it is still mostly an ear test.
I learned techniques in my music theory class to identify intervals using popular and recognizable songs as reference. For example, “here comes the bride”=1-4, the Star Wars theme=1-5, “over the rainbow”=1-8, “take on me”=1-7, “jaws”=minor 2nd and so on. That really helped me develop a good ear for relative pitch.
I also use thus trick to fake an absolute pitch. I can recognize every c because Fly Me To The Moon begins with a c or g because Autum Leaves start with g
Our music theory class use "From the Halls of Montezuma" to remember the tonic, 3rd and 5th. "Here comes the Bride" was the Perfect 4th, "My BONny lies over the Ocean" was the Major 6th, and "Bali Hai" was for the Major 7th.
@@maximsokol4146 yes same! Except not with songs, my marching band used to have tuning note go off at the bell every day so eventually I just got used to what an F sounded like and from there I could use intervals to find any note in my head. Tedious but worked every time
As someone with perfect pitch, I found it slightly confusing that the test called the notes A and B. For the first one, I saw that and was expecting to hear an A or a B. The second note was an A (didn't notice that there were two notes at first because I had my volume pretty low), so I picked A and then I was very confused when it said the correct answer was B. Turns out that B was A. Who knew perfect pitch could make you fail a pitch perception test?
When i was in my college days i was SO SCARED when i learned about the concept of some people being tone deaf and i couldn't bear the possibility of me being that "some"! And i was desperately trying to prove to myself that i wasnt and i couldn't find a decent way to test it. After 6 years later, My doubts have been crushed and i am glad to know that i am indeed not tone deaf. i was right all along! . . . . 26th March 2024 @9: 29 p.m.
I'm a little late, but for those of you who want to improve on the numbers part: A known trick taught in music is to sing musical syllables (Solfege), and use them subconsciously whilst hearing the intervals. For your major scales, such as in the video, you have Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti, and Do. Try it yourself and you'll have a blast lol P.S You can also remember sounds of different pitch distances by relating to a song. My music teacher loves starwars, so Going from Do to Sol would be like the star wars theme :D
Oh crap I forgot about those... I loved doing that with my piano teacher I did the lazy way and just remembered the first note and last note then pictured where the notes in between were... sounds complicated It was The first two doing it I was panicked and didnt even do lol
I use 'Mary Had A Little Lamb,' which is even more useful when you get into identifying notes. The version I remember is simply B - A - G - A - B - B - B - A - A - A - B - D - D - B - A - G - A - B - B - B - B - A - A - B - A - G. Knowing just this gives you a pretty good understanding of the 4 notes, C is easy to tell with practice, and E and F are a semi-tone apart. Star Wars is a great song to help, too.
I can do the last stage, but I needed to hear the recording an extra time to identify the last one since it had an extra note. I found it easier to memorize the scale being played and vocalize both it and the mystery notes to see what sounded similar.
Never realized learning Harmonium for 2-3 years as a child would help me recognise the notes so well even after so long. Just missed one of the notes in both of the last questions. Surprised yet really happy
There is no such thing as being tone deaf. The fact that people can speak through a phone and recognise who is talking takes way more processing than the difference between two notes. The whole concept of this test is about being able to sustain a note in your head which is vastly different to the idea that someone is unable to hear a change in pitch. Repeating and differentiating between two notes is a skill that anyone with ears and a brain can master. People that have a good ear often repeat the sounds they hear in their head from a young age. The more people to this the better they become at noticing difference in pitch, dynamics and all the rest. Anyone can start doing this and once it becomes a habit the skill will grow exponentially.
@@takuma359 how are you supposed to sustain a note in your head when you can’t hear it in your head? I can only (barely) remember notes by the way my muscles feel when I try to replicate the sound with my voice. Are most people actually hearing the notes in their head from memory?
@@phenylalaninemusic Yes, I can hear entire songs in my head actually although it's usually just the lead parts and I don't really hear the percussion unless it stands out or it's in front. I can still hear the three notes playing in my head because I focused so hard on them.
I’ve been in choir for most of my life and still the solfège at the end was really fast. I had to pause the video for a good minute to find the correct notes but eventually I got them all right. People that feel bad about not getting those, please don’t feel bad! It takes a lot of practice to get those immediately like how they wanted it to be answered!
Or you can have perfect pitch like me. It isn't a really useful skill tbh, I would much rather have better social skills or visual-spatial intelligence.
Yes, it is just an extra test for the uninitiated who might not realize they have perfect pitch, it wasn't supposed to be apart of the Tone Deafness test, though they should have made it clearer that it was a different test.
I knew someone in High school who I was in band with who had Perfect Pitch. We were at a concert rehearsal and the band director noticed the florescent lights were buzzing. He asked who could tell him the pitch and this guy raised his hand and said it’s a Bb and a few cents flat… and he got it spot on.
i was actually surprised at how close i was on the last stages, missing only one of the notes by one note both times. then again i played piano for many years and easily recognised the scales, which likely helped
I feel like the later tests are something of skill you’d need to develop or just have more time practicing. I was getting really close, but without much time with the notes it was hard to be able to remember each of them by sound with 8 of them. While I could tell the difference between all of them and was close to the correct answer each time, I just felt that given more time with them I could have easily completed the task. (It’s like a memory test with sound, plus a pitch test. Fun.) But this was fun. Cool video whomever made this.
Agreed. After 2:26 it seems like stuff you'd have to sit down an memorize before being able to reproduce it 😅 But otherwise it was fun! I made it up to that point lol
bruh I got them right and I don't have zero idea about music. I just listen to a lot of metal .what the... PS: Nevermind I one wrong. I said it's 4 instead of 5. Damn I almost forgot it... I guess we need practice
It's fine. Tbh it went a little fast, I wasn't expecting it since the first couple questions were slow paced. I think it's why some people got mixed up with it. I also mix up numbers and letters all the time too so the number scale visually confused me. But if I shut my eyes and listen then I get the answers right
Relative pitch is honestly pretty learnable if you're not tone deaf. If you can remember songs that have a certain interval, it's memorize the note gap, and apply it when you need it. For example, think twinkle twinkle little star, and the first note jump is a perfect 4th. If you can remember that, you can probably train yourself to hear that familiar pattern in music and now you know what the 4th of a major scale sounds like
@@gameclips5734not “actually” you can TRY to practice or train perfect pitch but it needs to be at a very young age (like about 1-8 years old) and its still not guaranteed to get it even if you put all of your effort into it.
I’m a musician who knows they do NOT have perfect pitch, so when they were going between A or B I thought they were actually playing the notes A and B and would play different notes like sharps or flats to test our musical ear. Turns out I WAY over thought it 😂
It makes sense you can't hear the exact note, but to be fair, the interval they did was a minor 3rd. So that kind of already tells you it can't be A and B, because those are only a major 2nd apart.
Hearing the intervals on the last stage is much easier if you are able to identify songs that have that interval change. The most common change in western music is a 4th or in terms of the video, that 3-6 change for the final test, and the easiest song I found to remember it by is "Here Comes the Bride". A good song to recognize a 5th interval is The Beatles "Let It Be" and more specifically, it's first two chords. A traditional song for quickly identifying a 3rd is "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow". There are hundreds of songs out there for trying to identify intervals quickly so if you don't know these songs look some up, you'd be surprised at the quantity of songs that use these intervals as the basis to their whole progression. There are also many more intervals than the ones that I referenced here which add a lot of color to music out there but these are just a few of the common ones I thought I'd point out if you wanted to find a way to start learning about relative pitch and how to achieve it!
@@aginnaginn5039 a good one is the (da da da) duuh DAA from star wars, which is a perfect fifth or the alternating notes from the jaws theme is a semitone :)
@@aginnaginn5039 Well there are 26 written intervals (halfof them are redundant) in western music so coming I couldn't give you a song for all of them but some interesting intervals for adding color into music that you may have heard like a diminished 5th/augmented 4th (also known as a tritone) can be found in Jimi Henderix's "Purple Haze" and it's opening. Some more interesting intervals that I like when writing music are major and minor 6th's, I don't know any songs off the top of my head, but it's usually a chord that I like to use when moving towards the end of a song in a 6 - 7 - 8/1 to build tension and resolve it. If you are interested in intervals, then I recommend going to Wikipedia and going to their Music Intervals page and playing all of the sound files to see if you may recognize it in a song you may know. And start seeing if you can correctly identify the interval in a song you know. Hope I helped!
This was interesting. I'd been wondering if perfect pitch was lost with age, but apparently not, as I still have it. I used to tune my violin by ear, before the class began, to test my "ear." That's when I was about ten. I'm now elderly, and haven't played an instrument since fifth grade, but I still have my "ear." Well, at least there's _one_ thing I haven't lost. 😊
I'm really jealous of you. I'm a gigging musician, and I didn't start playing music till I was 13. My ear was absolutely terrible till I was maybe 20. I'm 23 now, and I barely managed to get through the whole thing. The last one I thought it was just the major chord: 1, 3, 5. So I guess I missed one note! Even now, it's something I work on as much as I can because it has always been a weakness for me. I've learned to understand music so much more from ear training, and even when I miss a note it teaches me something. With that barrier overcome, I'm sure you'd be playing violin again in no time (or really whatever insturment you pursue). But anyway, you should pick up an instrument. It is never too late, and it will keep you young.
You're lucky then (or still not that old). There has been a lot of rumouring about losing perfect pitch with age, and it looks like most people with perfect pitch "lose" it after the age of 40+. The interesting thing is that those people dont completely lose perfect pitch, but it changes a half tone or even more. Since I dont have perfect pitch, I dont know how to imagine this, but essentially you start to hear things differently from what you were before which is kinda crazy.
Knew a guy with perfect pitch in high school, he played snare drum. A few times when I forgot to tune before practice or a show I’d quickly get him to tell me if I was in tune. It was so cool.
They lost me as soon as they started doing sequences. I can usually tell if a note is out of place, but it's always a guessing game to determine which note is the correct one. Sometimes the repetition messes with my sense of what it should sound like. Having sheet music is very helpful because of this.
Not to mention the echo of the sustained note is completely missing during the example and is the majority of the sound on the actual test. Many flaws show through from just a small mishandling of how unfamiliar what they're testing is to the majority of people.
I’ve been in choir for 7 years but literally cannot read sheet music so I go by ear, I got everything correct because at this point I kind of just knew
Also just a heads up tone deafness is only in 0.2% of the global population and is quite rare. Perfect pitch is 1 in 1000 (more common then first thought) quansa pitch (the ability to notice pitches from pulling notes from another song) is also a thing. Remember that you could ALSO have perfect pitch that's on an different toning scale.
@@jc626 idk what their source is but 1 in 20 is definitely far too high. True tone deafness (the medical condition that makes you unable to learn, sing and identify the relationship between notes at all) is quite rare. some people would call my mom tone deaf but she is only unable to sing, possibly because she's never learned how to utilize her vocal cords before. She can identify scales, replicate melodies and know if something is out of tune though.
Quansa pitch is definitely something I have. Perfect pitch is also most likely for me, spoken Chinese is a tonal language; tones are essential for proper communication, I'm not learning this language but from what I hear I can pretty accurately notice the tones of words without practice.
I don't think memorizing and repeating note sequences is really a good judge of tone deafness/perfect pitch tbh, it's more about knowing your scales which doesn't always come naturally to people. A better test for pitch sense imo would be to repeat a note that was played, though you can't really do interactive prompts like that in video format. But it could be a good exercise when you're using your voice or tuning an instrument! EDIT: Made it more obvious that this is my opinion, since that wasn't clear enough apparently
I feel like understanding whether two notes were in a row on a scale and judging how close the notes are is more than just memorization. If it went 1-5, you should be able to recognize that it wasn't 1-2 if you've had musical background
Yeah giving me two different sounds and then asking me which one I hear is pretty easy and I don't think that shows if I'm tone deaf or not. I think better would have been to play a low A and B, then play a higher pitched A or B and then see if I could recognize which one it was because I don't think I could. Once this video got to the number scale, I was completely off and I couldn't guess anywhere close to the correct answer.
The part where i only had to indentify one note on a scale of 10, i struggled more, than when there were multiple notes... i got 1-5, but i was torn between 1-3-5 and 1-3-6 on the last one. Im proud of myself!
The thing is that every scale played is a major scale, which means that 1-3-5 would be a broken chord for that major scale By it not sounding like a major chord, it is quite obvious that it is 1-3-6
@@geordiepunchingahorse423 I think i actually came to the conclusion that it was 136, before it was revealed, but for a half a second, i was torn between that and 135, because i didnt really notice that the frequency difference is the same for all notes, and i watched this video with the assumption that im tone deaf, and i wasnt confident in making deductions on that shaky ground. I kind of assumed that the answer could be 135, but cuz im tone deaf i hear a bigger gap between 3 and 5, but at the last milisecond of that half a second i decided to just go with what i think i heard.
Lol for the first going up and going down one I forgot to pause it and I didn’t get a chance, the 1-5 one I forgot to pause as well. The 1-3-6 I got the 1-6, but I guessed 1-2-6 instead
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, I know) I found this so easy I could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. I have been playing the harmonica since I was 3. I'm 52 now and I still retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
I think the difficulty with determining perfect pitch is that some common examples of perfect pitch include being able to name the note that was made. You don't test a child's ability to differentiate consonants by using the alphabet if they're still learning it. They don't know which sounds go to which letter yet and some letters can look similar to each other like some some sounds can. That doesn't necessarily mean that you can't differentiate them from each other. However that then goes into relative pitch and not perfect pitch. I think people use perfect pitch around in contexts that still involve musical training to the point that the concept has become blurred. If the requirement is that you can put a name to the note, then you can't be born with that. Even replicating a pitch with your voice still requires some degree of vocal training because you are learning how to mimic the note. The ability of perfect pitch is so intertwined with musical ability that it's very difficult to determine that you have it without involving some degree of training or musical intuition. Edit: overblew it when talking about advanced training.
Nope......:) I have known some kids that had perfect pitch with no advanced music training even though they could sing. Anyway, perfect pitch is not the ultimate skill of all, even though it is amazing to see people with it....:)
i thought so too. This was definitely more relative pitch. i forget which round it was, but when the note was played, i immediately recognized it as a g but didn't have enough time to figure out which number it was. then for the intervals, i could hear do-mi-sol but not know the notes or numbers and so got it wrong.
So I am not tone deaf… but I feel the scale portion is going a bit fast… to those who never had musicale training it might prove a bit fast to remember the positions of the tones within the scale. Yet a clear difference is audible, the memory of its location hasn’t been established and therefor it’s impossible to anyone who doesn’t have perfect audible memory.
That's the point, the last part is supposed to be extremely difficult if you don't have formal training, UNLESS you have perfect pitch. If you naturally have perfect pitch that last part will still be easy even with no training.
@@jessicastjames6202 If I gave you a sequence 1=D, 2=Ö, 3=A, 4=E, 5=G, 6=X, 7=P and 8=R, then asked you to tell me what AGD is, you'd have a difficult time remembering it's 351 despite you immediately recognizing letters from one another... or are you saying you think it's super difficult to tell letters apart because you can't remember the corresponding number I assigned to each one? For example, I could tell the first sound was on the higher end, not the highest, but I'd need to hear 5, 6 and 7 again to remember what they were specifically.
I passed the first five and had no idea on the identify by number section. It wasn't a gradual progression; all of the first five stages were very easy, and I had no chance whatsoever with the rest. It's like going from basic addition to calculus. Regardless, it doesn't matter because I'm hopeless at learning music. I took a class on music in the elementary school and failed it twice because students were required to learn to read music, and I apparently am incapable of doing that. The lesson would make sense while the professor was teaching it, then when I'd attempt to do it on my own, it no longer made sense. It also is a lot like calculus in that way, but harder.
You aren't hopeless. You learned how to read english, beginner level sheet music is much simpler than that. If you found a good teacher who could explain it to you 1 on 1 you would have a much better time.
if it makes you feel better i've been playing guitar for about 6 years or so and played piano for 2 years, and i still haven't really learned how to read music lol. but i'd say i'm a pretty decent guitar player so honestly it doesn't impact me that much where i am now.
unless you study music theory or already know you have perfect pitch, that section will be really hard. ive studied music theory and i still had to pause the video and sing it in my head and replay the sequence a few times before i could decide on an answer. it's especially difficult when you're given random numbers to associate the notes with, don't worry!
it's probably because you have to memorize which number is which note, cause I wasn't able to put in my brain "this number is this sound". I hate numbers. But hey, now I know I'm not tone deaf. I feel good that I may have perfect pitch or close to it at least, because I'm able to hear the slightest different in pitch pretty often.
The fact that I’ve only learnt music through FL Studio, and now I actually know that I have relative pitch hearing, since I passed all the stages makes a whole lot more sense lol. I’ve always been good at recreating other melodies, that’s literally how I started making music in FL. So I’m glad 4 years of messing around in FL Studio actually got me somewhere besides only making music
Same. FL unintentionally trained me to know what notes actually work together over the first 1-2 years of producing when I started at like 16 years old
It took me way to long to realize they weren't actually the notes a and b. Thought I was going crazy when they were doing octaves. I was like "why are they not both A"
I agree the use of letters there was confusing at first, but just fyi, none of the A vs. B questions were an octave. The second one was a minor 7th which is pretty close but if you thought any of them were any octave, go back and listen again.
I have absolute pitch (aka perfect pitch), and noticed people worrying about not doing the sequences. Don’t fret if you can’t do the last stages, for they’re literally meant to eliminate the large majority of people. Absolute pitch is useful and fun, and relative pitch is definitely a good skill to work on developing if you don’t have absolute pitch, but you can be a great musician without it! Also, I’d say there are some indirect cons to it too (absolute, not relative) 😅
I got the last two but it's only because I've played triads in different voicings over and over. I hesitated on the last one, but because of the distinctive minor sound, I knew it had to include a natural minor. Didn't think my pitch ability was that good!
The last one is incredibly easy to recognise for any pianist, it's the first arpeggiated chord in still D.R.E. Every pianist has played it at least once
Interesting video, but true tone deafness is actually almost as rare as Perfect Pitch. I have perfect pitch, meaning the ability to identify and produce notes without a reference pitch. The tone deafness, however, is the inability, when hearing two notes, distinguish which is higher and which is lower. Perfect Pitch and tone deafness occasionally come as a package deal, oddly enough. Not for me, luckily, but for some people.
Could you explain how someone could possibly have both? If you can identify both of the notes, say D sharp and F sharp in the same octave, how could you not know that F sharp is the higher pitch?
@@jsdsparky some people with perfect pitch can identify a note but not what octave its in, so they can hear two notes and name them, but not which octave it's in. Thus they don't know which is higher or lower
@@gabrielkrows488 Makes sense, thank you. It's very interesting to think about what those people are picking up on, that they can identify the note but not the octave, considering our notions of notes, full and half steps, are just abstractions on top of a continuous range of frequencies. Something very interesting happening in the brain.
I sometimes get confused try to hear harmonies on a song with a lot of harmonies and instruments and lead singer. I can hear parts but I get confused as to what part I’m hearing. Sometimes I think I over think it though.
I've never had proper training, but I've been trying to learn instruments by ear since I was a kid. At the numbers part i was always off by one 😅 but I know it's harder than the rest so I'm glad I was at least close, I plan on working on this and learning theory too
@@koaruu why are you trying to humblebrag on a video like this? "Not really" like anyone asked. Not only that but you copy and paste the same comment on multiple threads. Did you not get enough attention or praise growing up?
my parents are musicians, i was in choir and orchestra for years, i play 6 instruments, and i still struggled with the solfege at the end. (the 1-8 sequence for the unaware). don't feel bad if you didn't get it, especially if you're not a professionally trained musician.
@@DocTitan no it seems like it but trust me IT ISNT! like you just remember the first note (do) and make all the other six notes (re mi fa so la ti do) using your own voice, then you compare the note they’ve asked you to identify with to the seven notes, you only have to know how the first note goes and make the rest urself lol. thats how i did it cus i can’t imagine remembering all seven myself
As someone with perfect pitch, I've actually been playing the flute in a band with 7 other people. I have been playing for 273 years, so I guess that's why it was so easy for me to tell that note A was actually a C sharp, and B was actually not a note, in fact it was the sound waves being interpreted by a solar panel orbiting the sun. lmao guess I'm just pitch perfect guys. Also did I mention that I can tune my flute by ear.
@@patrickr8400 thats what i was looking for, at least I can impove. People that are tone deaf are likely not going to get better like how people without perfect wont be able to develop it
This was fun! I went to school for music and I struggled a lot with aural skills. I don't really have a very strong inner ear, I cant "hear" pitches in my head so it was a lot of guessing.
Well I'm kind of the opposite, since I can't "see" things in my mind (aka Aphantasia), but I can hear just fine! I could never do the "imagine in your mind", but I can easily hear any music I have heard in my head pretty clearly.
I used to be completely tone deaf. After a few thousand hours of guitar and a half a decade dating a choral major, I am fairly well stable with a relative pitch.
Lost the second to last thing with two notes. Said "1-3 maybe 1-4" and it was 1-5. But got the last one perfect with 1-3-6. Other than that I got them all right
Quite a difficult test for me. I'm everything except tone deaf. But I had more difficulties paying attentions to the actual numbers rather than the tones. Like "Was that note the 4 or the 5. I've got the note memorized but not the number... wait let me grab my guitar to hear"
@@synthellaart1587 I was able to do those parts by just knowing the starting note on the scale and replaying the scale in my head until I hit the note.
I cannot identify the sequence of numbers that they presented in the scale, but I can remember it and play it on my guitar (or even a piano). I can also play most songs by ear. My opinion is that this test's premise was a little flawed. The part where they tested if the participant could identify a single note simply tested perfect pitch. Relative pitch needs at least two notes. The second an third parts of the test were fine.
im pretty sure i dont have perfect pitch, but i got the single note simply by remembering how the rest of the scale sounds. all i had to do was replay the scale in my head and then match the correct note.
It is a correct measurement, relative pitch is mostly used for intervals, which is what they played. You know what note you are hearing in relation to other one that you've heard or know.
They did not test perfect pitch in the video, all the tests were given initial base tones. And either comparing or identifying relative scale degrees. But there certainly wasnt a test where solely a tone was given and you were supposed to identify which note it was
Here's a little trick for the number part. It helps me to remember the intervals by assigning a popular song to them. 1-2 would be something like the beginning notes of Happy Birthday 1-3 would be like the Harry Potter theme 1-4 would be like here comes the bride 1-5 would be like Twinkle Twinkle, or the Star Wars theme 1-8 would be like Somewhere over the rainbow Obviously there's more I didn't account for, but this is a good starting place and it helps me remember them
@@joshuaallen4181 Just played it thru on my little keyboard. While one of the Maria's does do a tritone, one makes the major 7 leap. When I think of tritone, I think of the bell tones ringing in the beginning of the graveyard scene of Phantom of the Opera.
I've always figured I was some level of tone deaf since I'm so bad at music stuff. I guess not since stages 1-5 were trivially easy, but then in stage 6+ I was completely useless. Like it could have said the note was any of the 8 and I wouldn't have batted an eye. It was really caught off guard after how easy the previous stages were.
Yes it's just a trick the person who made the video is using it's part of the advertisement for the school. The fact is the last part where they played a whole scale is difficult for people who have had no ear training. If you do some relative pitch ear training so you are able to recognize the intervals and be able to say that is a minor third or that's a major third or that is a sixth or that is a perfect fifth etc then the last part of the exercise would have been quite easy. It's not because you lack an ability it's just because you haven't practiced it's like any skill. For example i can tell you the group of ascending notes at 2:10 is a major triad, 1 3 5 . It's nothing special it's just because I've done ear training. Anyone can do it.
@@Ana_crusis idk i was able to get 2 right and in the first one i guessed 4 instead of 5 (which is pretty close, plus i wasn't paying as much attention because 1-5 were so trivial)
I dunno what happened, maybe because I didn't get enough sleep (eveb though I'm not a musical genius even when well rested) I got kind of destroyed on stage 5, then nearly aced stage 6
@@Ana_crusis Ah, yeah I should have known it was something like that. Like a version of those Facebook ads that say "98% of people can't solve this!" or whatever.
My oldest sibling was able to play stuff on her toy piano as a 4 year old after hearing a song, she just instinctively knew exactly how to play a song without any piano lessons. But sadly our parents didn't put in the time, money and effort to put that skill to test. I really believe she could have been a concert pianist with different parents. I know if I showed her this video she would get everything right.
@@jonniefast no.. if you have musically inclined parents, your natural talent is fostered immensely better than if you don't have parents who give a shit or understand.
@@jonniefast As a child, your entire life revolves around your parents when it comes to self improvement, they will foster your skills and they will provide you resources. The sad thing is you can actually throw away a lot of opportunities on your own even if your parents care, but if your parents don't care you can only really start improving after you become an adult, which puts you at a huge disadvantage because adult life often means you don't have much free time for self development. So yes parents are the most important aspect of your development.
@@jonniefast it's not really that simple. when u are a child, you're parents make the decisions for you. so if you have musically inclined parents, u are in favour, but if they are not willing to support, u can't really do anything about it.
I am actually pitch perfect, I got it from my grandfather I believe and I have the ability to play any instrument that is handed to me without even needing to know the fingerings for the instrument, I also regularly play the oboe and all different types of percussion instruments for fun, but have been known to play the piano and violin in the past as if I have been practicing them for years but no, the oboe is my main instrument and was my first one I actually started playing and later on mastered
Even as someone that’s dedicated 10 of my 18 years to French horn and is currently in AP Music Theory, I was still pretty concerned that I would fail this 😂😂 If I did, which I didn’t, I would have questioned my entire life
I play 4 instruments now and started piano at 8. When I took AP music theory at 17 yrs old. I apologized to the person who recorded my sight singing for the ap exam. The harmonic progression and note progression aural parts killed me. Still got a 5 though. I memorize pitches by playing around the notes on bassoon in my head since it’s much easier to distinguish than piano and was my second instrument that I played in band starting at 11 years old.
The number part requires more memorization actually. The problem I have is that I have the audition of an old person. I can't hear certain high frequencies.
as a musician the last couple i could do only because i have practiced this major scale before (lots of people do this its kinda hard not to) . You should be very proud if you can do the last ones without musical knowledge. I can almost guarantee this online school will have you doing exercises where you memorize this scale, so its normal for people without experience to be unable to do it.
I think it would have been easier if they held the notes at the end to build a chord. Sometimes I forget where the notes were, so I had to sing it back to myself a couple of times.
@@devon6986 Then you probably got it using a bit of logic and luck. Interval recognition isn’t easy if you don’t have practice or perfect pitch. The way this test is set up, your odds of getting right aren’t that crazy if you can differentiate between high and low pitches.
No one's actually completely "tone deaf" as they wouldn't be able to distinguish people's voices or music from noise, especially with the claim that "1 in 20" are tone deaf... That'd make the amount of people that listen to music significantly lower. Plus, tone recognition can be trained further to the point where anyone can be trained to carry a tune (most with assistance, meaning not alone). I've trained "tone deaf" people to sing with a group before, it's difficult but possible, so if you think you're tone deaf, don't give up, it's sometimes very hard and frustrating, but it is possible to at least be able to carry a tune.
I'd argue that 99.99% or so of people are partially tone deaf. Perfect pitch can be a blessing, but generally it's just a drag, one that makes a very few of us conscious of how imperfect everyone's tune is. Having autism and OCD alongside it doesn't help matters. :P
In order to pass level 6, it’s likely that you have to have ear training and aural skills. I have taken a year of aural theory in college and was barely able to pass level 6. It goes pretty fast.
this went from a tone deaf test to a memory test real quick
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nah we had that in exams in 5th-8th grade.. had a few notes given and they would play a melody and we had to add the missing notes or guess the accords. but i had music as a main subject, the bavarian school system is weird lol
That's not really a memory test per say. Like yes memory serves purpose here, but it's more about "calculating" pitch from the tonal center
The mere fact I’m not a tone deaf is enough for me.
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Funny enough that's what I thought when I got done with the ascending and descending notes. Like "Yup. Good enough for me let's ditch"
This escelated quickly lol, went from being told I'm most likely not tone deaf, to overwhelmed
FACTS!
Ikr, I can't handle remembering and recognizing things that correspond to numbers. If they did this with shapes I'd be just as bad.
@@BrightLikeSnowright! I need do-mi-la, not 1-3-6
Also the A and B in the beginning confused me cause I was thinking at first they meant note names and I went “hang on that’s not-“ 😂
Oh thank god I’m not the only one.
@@kikibear26 I have perfect pitch so was very thrown off with the A B thing lol
The difficulty went from 1 to 100 really quick
Yeah
Yeah, scales would be hard without training 😂. I had to pause it and count in my head from the bottom of the scale to make sure.
I love how this repeated the sound of going up like 6 different times but then just basically gives us 8 notes to memorize and associate with numbers at the end
Exactly.
Personally I thought it was fine that they played the last part once because it was always a do-re-mi progression, though it was definitely overkill to do so many examples of going up lol
math and memory, my wort enemies
@@tiffanychae Seems like writing is one of them too
@@ayevaboo 😂
I got as far as ruling myself out as "tone deaf". The moment the scale was broken out, I was lost.
the scale part where i have to guess one note is kinda easy but when it comes to the 2-3 notes i was lost💔
The scale was difficult for me I can usually do it in my choir class with a group but it on my own
yea when the numbers came it was over
This isnt even a test of relative pitch XD this is something different.
@@hueningkaistripleeyelids7504 Same, I can guesstimate but I don't have the short term memory to remember all the notes
I had a friend who had vocal tone-deafness: if I played a note on the piano, he couldn't match it at all with his voice (by several notes.) But without looking he could match it with his flute. So he could hear the note correctly, but couldn't tell that he wasn't singing it correctly. A very strange kind of tonal dyslexia.
i'm like this! I played the piano for almost 14 years, so i learned to identify notes quite well... but if i'm asket to sing the note.. well... 8/10 times i sing the wrong note
it’s also probably what he has practice with! if he doesn’t sing often, he wouldn’t have the practice to easily recreate the sound that way, even if he knew what it should sound like. if he was a good flutist, he would be able to! pretty cool actually
omg i’m like this lol i study music and it’s so frustrating tbh but at least i can recognise the notes i just can’t make my voice co operate with my head
It's more about not having control over your voice. I sing and play the piano, both non-professionally and sometimes I can hear a note perfectly but I just can't reach it with my voice, because I have little control over it. Especially if it's low-high-low transitions. That's why I do vocal exercise for agility and flexibility of voice.
Isn't this pretty normal?
When I hum a note it usually doesn't come out the way I hear it in my head, but I feel like I could improve with training.
Isn't this half the reason singing is considered a skill, rather than an innate human ability?
I’m not tone deaf but the last ones got me, because it was using numbers instead of do re mi fa sol la ti or do.
Even if you have perfect pitch, being able to know how far apart the notes are in the last section uses a completely different part of the brain. It takes a lot of practice, had to take interval tests in music class once a month. It's definitely something that requires practice.
Good to know i have an excuse to fail
@No Touchy me too, but it was also just one tone apart from the right answer^^
i feel like the “do re mi” vocal exercise helps a lot with this
That part of my brain needs some repair. I've never been able to match notes on paper to notes in practice.
@@iamafish7 probably cuz ur a fish
Huge props for not making a dumb video , this was great straight to the point and
no bullshit.
I was waiting for still dre on the last level
It was confusing though. I thought the notes would actually be an A and B but they kept changing
I mis-read it as, "Huge props on making a dumb video"
@@josephassiryani9174 Lol same
@@josephassiryani9174 same, though that was gonna be the punchline to the whole video
People seem worried about the numbers part but honestly that’s a little more advanced than something most people just know with no prior learning! When I took singing classes we regularly had exercises for trying to memorize the octave notes and being able to name them just by ear. That’s something you usually have to train unless you’re born with “perfect pitch” like it says at the start of the video, but that’s not all that common. So don’t worry y’all it’s normal to not pass that part lol
You don't even need to learn the numbers, this is an interval training too
And if I passed everything except this is it cool or jsut normal?
@@kombrug well it means you’re not tone deaf lol. Idk what the percentage is of people who are tone deaf vs people who aren’t
I actually learn that (but instead of numbers we use do re mi fa so la ti do and a,b,c,d,e,f,g (note names)
We did this kind of interval training when I took choir in high school. I'm a little rusty now (it's been over 20 years) but I managed to get these with a little bit of time to listen and think. Back then, though, we trained intervals all the time and I definitely would have gotten them right away.
It's definitely a skill learned through training. You don't have to be born with it to succeed.
1:35 why did this part lowkey go hard
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It's arpeggios in the circle of 5ths.
The relative pick part is a huge jump in difficulty. It's a skill that actually needs to be trained. (I actually got the 1-5 ratio and I'm really proud of that.)
#metoo
Yeah. That jumped way too far!
I was so close i answered 2-5, that or i just got lucky
I only have the perfect fifth and the major third memorized. It's way harder to imprint in memory than one would think
same
Turns out I'm not tone deaf, but my voice is still wildly unreliable. Voice breaks or gets lost easily, and has broken up range that's super limited.
then just play your favorite instrument i suppose
I’m pretty sure I used to be somewhat tone-deaf but it’s gotten a whole lot better. I tried it and aced it
You’ve ever had that awkward gap between two ranges? No? Then you’ve probably never tried really really high notes
If you're really trying to learn how to sing, try humming and reading aloud for long periods of time. Makes you utilize muscles you don't usually and helps build strength and stamina. Biggest thing other than that is record yourself. Sucks to listen to your own voice at the start but once you get used to it you'll notice your strengths and weaknesses better so you can address them properly. Start small though and stay hydrated, don't hurt yourself.
These are all bad advices - if your voice breaks or gets lost, that means that you are not controlling it properly, and only teacher will help you
Guys trust the relative pitch stuff is harder than the rest by a mile I’ve had 10+ years of formal piano training and I still don’t have perfect pitch or anything but this skill is something you develop after years of hearing music in the application phase, where you are playing it instead of just hearing it. Understanding why something sounds the way it does helps with building these skills a lot, just stick to your practice and you’ll get there!
10 years of violin and piano for me, playing since I was 4
I actually do have perfect pitch, and for me it was playing violin/being around music my entire life!! Also, it really helped that I was trained in Suzuki, where there is NO movable Do: Do simply is Do, Fa simply is Fa, So simply is So, and so on.
Also, it is mean that I love the fact that I make people uncomfortable when they ask for a pitch and I give it, and they’re unconvinced so they go play it on the piano and I was right 😂
Played piano for 4 years and nailed the whole test. I think you're right.
@@isabelabernathy5116 oh wow my story is the exact same haha. I have perfect pitch and started cello when I was four and now I have been playing for almost 13 years! I spent my first 5 years on Suzuki and then switched over to more advanced solo repertoire plus a ton of chamber music (pieces like death and the maiden). I truly believe that Suzuki did help me cultivate perfect pitch as well, though others think otherwise.
Although I have relative pitch, I’ve shown my friends some stuff and I can say for sure that in their perspective it was waaay harder than I think it is
I've been told I have talent for music from a young age and this video has disproven that in a span of 25 secs.
As long as you don't have an aural issue, your voice can be trained to repeat a note that you've heard. It's a muscle memory thing, kind of like knowing how to sight read music, especially on an instrument like a violin. When I play a piece on the piano, I almost always know when I've played something wrong, even before I get the aural feedback. My fingers know where they should be, even if they refuse to go there.
"My fingers know where they should be, even if they refuse to go there."
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Its like typing! Like I'll know I typed a word wrong before I read it, building those neural pathways truly is quite powerful
Thats my problem, is that i cant repeat the same note that i hear vocally
100/100
as a 12 year old who plays both the flute and the violin, i agree
I can hear any sound and instantly recreate it perfectly by whistling, but actually being able to mathematically say how 'far apart' notes are from each other... I had to memorize the scale and then play it back in my head a bunch of times to figure it out. I suppose this must be one of those things that would improve with practice.
Yep, it's definitely something you can learn. I'm very good at recognising 1-4 and 1-5 because I spent a lot of time playing Timpani and this is the most common spacing when tuning those for different pieces. 1-2 and 1-8 are obvious. 1-3 and 1-6 I can guess from them being a bit off from 1-4 and 1-5 which I learned. and 1-7 is just one down from the full octave. Now, if we went into half steps my brain would be confused.
Yep intervals like 1-5 1-4 1-3 1-2m 1-2M and 1-8 are very easy to recognize, for 1-4 you can use songs like The International's 2 first notes.. but the rest comes with allot of practice
finally i found a person that can do the thing i can do
bet you’re a barrel of fun
lol i can do the same
i really like trying to replay any songs i hear by whistling
I'm one of those people who has perfect pitch--was tested when I was being accepted into a music program. All it did was make tuning easier lol
My pitch is good but on the flip side I struggle with rythum
Failed stage 6, I feel like it was a bit too quick. I'm unfamiliar with scales and can't recognize chord progressions. But recognizing tones seems achievable if I spent more time studying. Fun Video! Thanks!
It was a bit tricky but I just hummed the scale and recognized the 3 notes relative to the other notes in that scale. I def have a relative pitch but not perfect unfortunately :( I have been playing the piano for a while tho so it might have to do with that
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Don’t feel bad. I posted another spot on this video that that is a very weighted test. Music students take multiple years of training in that area. It is not something that people are just expected to be able to do. It says nothing of “tone deafness”.
I got 66% of stage 6 so I think that's alright
The A vs B tripped me up. I was like "That's not what A sounds like!" it took me way to long to realize you were talking about just two choices
OOMG SAME I WAS LIKE WTF THIS VIDEO IS WRONG
Lmao I thought the same exact thing. Also everyone in this thread has perfect pitch so far lol.
i thought the exact same thing 💀
I think it's there to trip you smart people, that clearly don't need to take this test, up.
@@RDR7891 I definitely don't. Just have been playing instruments for the past 10 years which helps. Still made me think I was crazy lol
I absolutely failed the last one horribly, my brain Just couldn't compute hearing the scale numbers out of order. This did help me learn that I need to Improve on my skill of Identifying scale sequences, so thank you!
it’s crazy, i didn’t even think, i just knew the answers, i guess it’s actually true you can be born with good ears 🤣
ain no one care 🤣
i have a really bad memory, so that skill helped me a lot :D
Ya
@@Virelia-V i think it would’ve helped if the numbers were labeled as notes instead
2:45 5 just gave me a flashback
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This was a super fun way to find out I'm at least sort of tone deaf and definitely can't understand pitch. You can never have too many skills to suck at!
Lol couldnt be me
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Same bud
@@user-fk9vm6no5i no one asked kid
At least i'm not tone deaf, though i don't know that relative pitch thing.
As long as I am able to listen to music and sing it (with shtty voice) all is fine.
The "numbers" section is part of ear training, which I had back in music college. There's no secret to it; you just gotta sit down, and take the time to listen to the relationship between the pitches. The way I do it is I associate the intervals with feelings and emotions. It's sorta like mnemonics for music.
That was hard too many choices for someone that doesn't even listen to music that often
Thank you for the advice. I never would have thought of doing that!
Transcribing music by ear really helped me before I took Aural Skills classes my first two years. It's also fun as well since it's almost like a puzzle or game to put all the tracks together of your favorite piece of music, whether it be through notation or a DAW software. It's how I did a recreation of the Beach Boys Pet Sounds album
Some are super easy: 1 to 2, because we're so used to hearing them next to each other anyway when starting up a scale, and the 7, because has so much tension to resolve to the octave. That really just leaves the 3, 4, 5, and 6 to worry about.
For me, i personally just changed all of the numbers to their solfege equivalent (do re mi), since I'm a vocalist, this was much easier
The last part got me, I could tell generally where the scale started and ended but couldn't be sure on the exact numbers. This is actually surprising as I figured I was tone deaf because I sound like a tortured seal being flung between two orcas when I sing...
These are completely different skills in different parts of the body! Singing is stuff in your throat and lungs, tone identification is stuff in your brain and ears ☺️
Yea, but you can HEAR that you sound bad when you sing.
Tone deaf people usually cant even tell theyre singing poorly or off key when they do it.
I could tell the intervals, but was wrong on the starting note (I guessed 3-4-7 when it was actually 2-3-6)
@@garfinkelc11 I was the opposite; I could identify the starting note, but not the notes afterwards.
I guess knowing you sing out of tune proves you aren't tone deaf!
as a musician, this was easy, BUT AS AN EMO KID I GOD JUMPSCARED AT 2:45
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Tip for the stage 6 that I used: if you know how any major scale would sound like based on its first note, remember that first note and you can figure out the sequence by recreating the major scale with that tone (I was humming it) and compare and find the notes there. Three notes were a little difficult to me tho.
Edit: oh shit this exploded.
I think the idea of perfect pitch is that you don’t need to hum the notes. You can instantly identify them
@@osanilevich ye but this was testing if u have relative pitch not perfect pitch
@@madsahren2208 ah my fault then
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getting the 1-3-6 made me smile. my high school choir teacher taught us to determine intervals like that in individual lessons, and it brought me back to all those memories.
If you keep doing the 1-3-6 repeatedly, then you get "Still Dre".
I got 1-4-6 on that one
I got a very close 1 3 7 on that one, I suck at musical notes overall and just couldn't guess the first 2 so I guess that's something
@@de-ment that's the correct one.. it's 1-3-7
@@cocohmar5341 no.. it's told by the video to be 136
Well, I'm not tone deaf. But my ADHD made those last few sections really difficult due to the issues with working memory. However I could identify that each sound was different. Maybe after learning them a bit more, I could identify them. But for now, for me, it's a memory game.
Same. I can sing it, but I can't remember the numbers.
same 😭 I got ADD
Took the words right out of my mouth
same, i got the first right but everything else was very not close. i kept thinking that 8 was the highest pitch for some reason lol
If you sing it out loud it cures this, worked for me at least. Idk if that's cheating though lmao
I almost failed my music test in school , now I may be Singaporean but I didn’t know a music test made by this Singaporean channel could be so easy
I don't now if this is just me but this seemed like more of a memory exercise than a tone deaf. I have been taking voice lessons for quite a while now and the way we practice pitch is playing one note and then singing the note right above it or an octave above it. especially with the numbers part, I couldn't remember what the last note was.
edit: I kinda phrased my comment poorly a little, it wasn't "mostly" memorization. I get that it is difficult to create a tone deaf test if the person isn't sitting in front of you. And I'm sure you can find great ways to bypass the relying on your memory and overall does a good job of saying if you are tone deaf or not, I've also been informed that it tests the pitch in your mind with the memory parts.
It tests your memory and the pitch in your mind. That’s what I’m doing for my major lol
thought im the only one!! except the fact that i never took voice classes, this felt more like a memory test
I did the last one by singing the number sequence again until I could recognize the latternt
Well even if you have good memory, you won’t be able to pass the last section without having a good ear … so yes, on the one hand it is kinda a memory test, but it is still mostly an ear test.
Part 6 is more memory than anything
I learned techniques in my music theory class to identify intervals using popular and recognizable songs as reference. For example, “here comes the bride”=1-4, the Star Wars theme=1-5, “over the rainbow”=1-8, “take on me”=1-7, “jaws”=minor 2nd and so on. That really helped me develop a good ear for relative pitch.
I also use thus trick to fake an absolute pitch. I can recognize every c because Fly Me To The Moon begins with a c or g because Autum Leaves start with g
Thats cool effort but its pretty much if you have it or not
Our music theory class use "From the Halls of Montezuma" to remember the tonic, 3rd and 5th. "Here comes the Bride" was the Perfect 4th, "My BONny lies over the Ocean" was the Major 6th, and "Bali Hai" was for the Major 7th.
I must know what the other ones are
@@maximsokol4146 yes same! Except not with songs, my marching band used to have tuning note go off at the bell every day so eventually I just got used to what an F sounded like and from there I could use intervals to find any note in my head. Tedious but worked every time
As someone with perfect pitch, I found it slightly confusing that the test called the notes A and B. For the first one, I saw that and was expecting to hear an A or a B. The second note was an A (didn't notice that there were two notes at first because I had my volume pretty low), so I picked A and then I was very confused when it said the correct answer was B. Turns out that B was A. Who knew perfect pitch could make you fail a pitch perception test?
This tells us a lot about hit game among us
Hmm it’s a bit weird. You wrote a whole paragraph but I can’t seem to find anyone that asked.
@@MrAceAwesome1 no one asked for you to live either, yet here you are.
@@MrAceAwesome1 I asked
I thought the same thing. Thought I lost my perfect pitch for a sec…
When i was in my college days i was SO SCARED when i learned about the concept of some people being tone deaf and i couldn't bear the possibility of me being that "some"! And i was desperately trying to prove to myself that i wasnt and i couldn't find a decent way to test it.
After 6 years later, My doubts have been crushed and i am glad to know that i am indeed not tone deaf. i was right all along!
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I'm a little late, but for those of you who want to improve on the numbers part:
A known trick taught in music is to sing musical syllables (Solfege), and use them subconsciously whilst hearing the intervals. For your major scales, such as in the video, you have Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti, and Do. Try it yourself and you'll have a blast lol
P.S You can also remember sounds of different pitch distances by relating to a song. My music teacher loves starwars, so Going from Do to Sol would be like the star wars theme :D
Oh crap I forgot about those... I loved doing that with my piano teacher
I did the lazy way and just remembered the first note and last note then pictured where the notes in between were... sounds complicated
It was
The first two doing it I was panicked and didnt even do lol
I use 'Mary Had A Little Lamb,' which is even more useful when you get into identifying notes. The version I remember is simply B - A - G - A - B - B - B - A - A - A - B - D - D - B - A - G - A - B - B - B - B - A - A - B - A - G. Knowing just this gives you a pretty good understanding of the 4 notes, C is easy to tell with practice, and E and F are a semi-tone apart. Star Wars is a great song to help, too.
I was already doing this. Although I have been a choir kid since I was 3 (16 almost 17 now) so it makes sense.
Mommy made me mash my m n Ms oh no
I did this but I hummed the tune. I didn't read this comment
We always learn like this instead of letters in my country lol
I can do the last stage, but I needed to hear the recording an extra time to identify the last one since it had an extra note. I found it easier to memorize the scale being played and vocalize both it and the mystery notes to see what sounded similar.
Y’a same
Me to
I got it because its the intro to still dre
@@sambotti1705 yup, just a 6th chord
Same
Never realized learning Harmonium for 2-3 years as a child would help me recognise the notes so well even after so long. Just missed one of the notes in both of the last questions. Surprised yet really happy
same, i had a go at the piano when i was 14/15 that was 4 years ago and i got everything right, i'm certain piano played a key part
Same, Harmonium was compulsory for about 3-4 years in my school and it helped even til today
There is no such thing as being tone deaf. The fact that people can speak through a phone and recognise who is talking takes way more processing than the difference between two notes. The whole concept of this test is about being able to sustain a note in your head which is vastly different to the idea that someone is unable to hear a change in pitch. Repeating and differentiating between two notes is a skill that anyone with ears and a brain can master.
People that have a good ear often repeat the sounds they hear in their head from a young age.
The more people to this the better they become at noticing difference in pitch, dynamics and all the rest. Anyone can start doing this and once it becomes a habit the skill will grow exponentially.
@@takuma359 how are you supposed to sustain a note in your head when you can’t hear it in your head? I can only (barely) remember notes by the way my muscles feel when I try to replicate the sound with my voice. Are most people actually hearing the notes in their head from memory?
@@phenylalaninemusic Yes, I can hear entire songs in my head actually although it's usually just the lead parts and I don't really hear the percussion unless it stands out or it's in front.
I can still hear the three notes playing in my head because I focused so hard on them.
I'm a musician and I'm glad with the fact I've passed this with no mistakes.
🤓
I’ve been in choir for most of my life and still the solfège at the end was really fast. I had to pause the video for a good minute to find the correct notes but eventually I got them all right. People that feel bad about not getting those, please don’t feel bad! It takes a lot of practice to get those immediately like how they wanted it to be answered!
Or you can have perfect pitch like me.
It isn't a really useful skill tbh, I would much rather have better social skills or visual-spatial intelligence.
@@SubToJinx It’s useful if you’re going into that career! I’m thinking about going into musical theater.
Yes, that was the only one that took me a second, and I compose music as a hobby.
@@SubToJinx social skills are overrated 😅
Yes, it is just an extra test for the uninitiated who might not realize they have perfect pitch, it wasn't supposed to be apart of the Tone Deafness test, though they should have made it clearer that it was a different test.
I knew someone in High school who I was in band with who had Perfect Pitch. We were at a concert rehearsal and the band director noticed the florescent lights were buzzing. He asked who could tell him the pitch and this guy raised his hand and said it’s a Bb and a few cents flat… and he got it spot on.
thats gotta be a blessing and a curse
what happens if he hears the among us music
And the band director said 'Yes exactly' because he wanted to pretend that he was perfect pitch. Really it was an F#.
@@ryank3747 What? Bb is 58 Hz, which checks out with fluorescent lights buzzing at 60 Hz
@@NoorquackerInd I was just making a joke, I have no clue what the actual pitch is.
i was actually surprised at how close i was on the last stages, missing only one of the notes by one note both times. then again i played piano for many years and easily recognised the scales, which likely helped
Grate shame
Same I was proud of myself lol
Same I got it off by one number
Same, but I've never played any instrument.
Same but i dont play any instrument
doing choir every week where we learn to read music and sing the melody ON SIGHT... you get pretty good at this.
I feel like the later tests are something of skill you’d need to develop or just have more time practicing. I was getting really close, but without much time with the notes it was hard to be able to remember each of them by sound with 8 of them. While I could tell the difference between all of them and was close to the correct answer each time, I just felt that given more time with them I could have easily completed the task. (It’s like a memory test with sound, plus a pitch test. Fun.) But this was fun. Cool video whomever made this.
Well it is possible to learn to be very close to pitch perfect with enough (and I mean a lot, like at least 5-10 years of very diligent) practice.
but to be honest, I got all of them right...without any years of practice!
Agreed. After 2:26 it seems like stuff you'd have to sit down an memorize before being able to reproduce it 😅 But otherwise it was fun! I made it up to that point lol
bruh I got them right and I don't have zero idea about music. I just listen to a lot of metal .what the...
PS: Nevermind I one wrong. I said it's 4 instead of 5. Damn I almost forgot it... I guess we need practice
It's fine. Tbh it went a little fast, I wasn't expecting it since the first couple questions were slow paced. I think it's why some people got mixed up with it. I also mix up numbers and letters all the time too so the number scale visually confused me. But if I shut my eyes and listen then I get the answers right
Relative pitch is honestly pretty learnable if you're not tone deaf. If you can remember songs that have a certain interval, it's memorize the note gap, and apply it when you need it. For example, think twinkle twinkle little star, and the first note jump is a perfect 4th. If you can remember that, you can probably train yourself to hear that familiar pattern in music and now you know what the 4th of a major scale sounds like
**Perfect 5th but yeah it's a good strategy, I've learned to identify a lot of the intervals that way
@@quinn470 thought i forgot the melody to twinkle twinkle for a sec 😮💨 I use Star Wars for fifths lol
well yes, you can learn to have perfect pitch as well
@@applespotty2232 twinkle twinkle little Star Wars
@@gameclips5734not “actually” you can TRY to practice or train perfect pitch but it needs to be at a very young age (like about 1-8 years old) and its still not guaranteed to get it even if you put all of your effort into it.
I’m a musician who knows they do NOT have perfect pitch, so when they were going between A or B I thought they were actually playing the notes A and B and would play different notes like sharps or flats to test our musical ear. Turns out I WAY over thought it 😂
Same lol
would've been a lot easier if they called it note "X" and note "Y"
Yeah I didn’t realize it until the 3rd stage
It makes sense you can't hear the exact note, but to be fair, the interval they did was a minor 3rd. So that kind of already tells you it can't be A and B, because those are only a major 2nd apart.
Same
Damnit, messed up ar 3:15 lol
Hearing the intervals on the last stage is much easier if you are able to identify songs that have that interval change. The most common change in western music is a 4th or in terms of the video, that 3-6 change for the final test, and the easiest song I found to remember it by is "Here Comes the Bride". A good song to recognize a 5th interval is The Beatles "Let It Be" and more specifically, it's first two chords. A traditional song for quickly identifying a 3rd is "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow". There are hundreds of songs out there for trying to identify intervals quickly so if you don't know these songs look some up, you'd be surprised at the quantity of songs that use these intervals as the basis to their whole progression. There are also many more intervals than the ones that I referenced here which add a lot of color to music out there but these are just a few of the common ones I thought I'd point out if you wanted to find a way to start learning about relative pitch and how to achieve it!
yo this helps alot thanks
How interesting! What other intervals are there to know, and can please give song examples for these?
@@aginnaginn5039 a good one is the (da da da) duuh DAA from star wars, which is a perfect fifth or the alternating notes from the jaws theme is a semitone :)
@@aginnaginn5039 Well there are 26 written intervals (halfof them are redundant) in western music so coming I couldn't give you a song for all of them but some interesting intervals for adding color into music that you may have heard like a diminished 5th/augmented 4th (also known as a tritone) can be found in Jimi Henderix's "Purple Haze" and it's opening. Some more interesting intervals that I like when writing music are major and minor 6th's, I don't know any songs off the top of my head, but it's usually a chord that I like to use when moving towards the end of a song in a 6 - 7 - 8/1 to build tension and resolve it. If you are interested in intervals, then I recommend going to Wikipedia and going to their Music Intervals page and playing all of the sound files to see if you may recognize it in a song you may know. And start seeing if you can correctly identify the interval in a song you know. Hope I helped!
It just reminded me of Dr. DRE. 🤣
This was interesting. I'd been wondering if perfect pitch was lost with age, but apparently not, as I still have it. I used to tune my violin by ear, before the class began, to test my "ear." That's when I was about ten. I'm now elderly, and haven't played an instrument since fifth grade, but I still have my "ear." Well, at least there's _one_ thing I haven't lost. 😊
Meanwhile, Me (as King Shark): **points to ear** "Ear!"
I'm really jealous of you. I'm a gigging musician, and I didn't start playing music till I was 13. My ear was absolutely terrible till I was maybe 20. I'm 23 now, and I barely managed to get through the whole thing. The last one I thought it was just the major chord: 1, 3, 5. So I guess I missed one note! Even now, it's something I work on as much as I can because it has always been a weakness for me. I've learned to understand music so much more from ear training, and even when I miss a note it teaches me something. With that barrier overcome, I'm sure you'd be playing violin again in no time (or really whatever insturment you pursue). But anyway, you should pick up an instrument. It is never too late, and it will keep you young.
@@NarwahlGaming HAH
You're lucky then (or still not that old). There has been a lot of rumouring about losing perfect pitch with age, and it looks like most people with perfect pitch "lose" it after the age of 40+. The interesting thing is that those people dont completely lose perfect pitch, but it changes a half tone or even more. Since I dont have perfect pitch, I dont know how to imagine this, but essentially you start to hear things differently from what you were before which is kinda crazy.
The thing you have lost? Your V card because you're an absolute legend.
Knew a guy with perfect pitch in high school, he played snare drum. A few times when I forgot to tune before practice or a show I’d quickly get him to tell me if I was in tune. It was so cool.
the fact that i can just play it on piano just by ear or mimic with voice is enough for me thanks
They lost me as soon as they started doing sequences. I can usually tell if a note is out of place, but it's always a guessing game to determine which note is the correct one. Sometimes the repetition messes with my sense of what it should sound like. Having sheet music is very helpful because of this.
Not to mention the echo of the sustained note is completely missing during the example and is the majority of the sound on the actual test. Many flaws show through from just a small mishandling of how unfamiliar what they're testing is to the majority of people.
this went from knowing if i’m tone deaf to telling me i should pay more attention to my scales and memorize them
I was killing it till the sequences part came💀
This shit rocks 💀
I got every one right until the second to last question 🤦♂️
same 💀
i got em all right easily
does that mean i have perfect pitch
@Felix E oh ok
I’ve been in choir for 7 years but literally cannot read sheet music so I go by ear, I got everything correct because at this point I kind of just knew
Using answer options A and B was a fantastic idea and not confusing for anyone. Especially musicians with perfect pitch 😂
OMG im so glad I found this comment. I listened to it and was like... 'what!? That's a G# not an A!' XD I was so confused
I was so damn confused at the first exercise, like "it's clearly not an A, its a G flat, what is wrong with this video?" 😂😭
Unless you're not American and use do re me ...
@@mohamedalitoufahi6295 english countries use cdefgabc, not just america, do re mi is just intervals
@@mohamedalitoufahi6295 I'm actually French, so I usually use "do ré mi" but since it was an english video, I was adapting 😂
Also just a heads up tone deafness is only in 0.2% of the global population and is quite rare. Perfect pitch is 1 in
1000 (more common then first thought) quansa pitch (the ability to notice pitches from pulling notes from another song) is also a thing. Remember that you could ALSO have perfect pitch that's on an different toning scale.
Guess I am in that 0.2% of the world population, and to think I dreamed of becoming a musician as a kid
What is your source for the 0.2% figure?
No place online seems to be saying that.
@@jc626 idk what their source is but 1 in 20 is definitely far too high. True tone deafness (the medical condition that makes you unable to learn, sing and identify the relationship between notes at all) is quite rare.
some people would call my mom tone deaf but she is only unable to sing, possibly because she's never learned how to utilize her vocal cords before. She can identify scales, replicate melodies and know if something is out of tune though.
Bruh wtf is quansa pitch LOL
Quansa pitch is definitely something I have. Perfect pitch is also most likely for me, spoken Chinese is a tonal language; tones are essential for proper communication, I'm not learning this language but from what I hear I can pretty accurately notice the tones of words without practice.
I don't think memorizing and repeating note sequences is really a good judge of tone deafness/perfect pitch tbh, it's more about knowing your scales which doesn't always come naturally to people. A better test for pitch sense imo would be to repeat a note that was played, though you can't really do interactive prompts like that in video format. But it could be a good exercise when you're using your voice or tuning an instrument!
EDIT: Made it more obvious that this is my opinion, since that wasn't clear enough apparently
I feel like understanding whether two notes were in a row on a scale and judging how close the notes are is more than just memorization. If it went 1-5, you should be able to recognize that it wasn't 1-2 if you've had musical background
I failed test 6 rip
That is not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is the ability to receive and correctly identify pitch.
Yeah giving me two different sounds and then asking me which one I hear is pretty easy and I don't think that shows if I'm tone deaf or not. I think better would have been to play a low A and B, then play a higher pitched A or B and then see if I could recognize which one it was because I don't think I could. Once this video got to the number scale, I was completely off and I couldn't guess anywhere close to the correct answer.
This is just a memorizing game bro
Im a pianist, this made me A LOT more confident
The part where i only had to indentify one note on a scale of 10, i struggled more, than when there were multiple notes... i got 1-5, but i was torn between 1-3-5 and 1-3-6 on the last one. Im proud of myself!
I had no clue for the 5 and 1-5 but was certain for 1-3-6 mainly because it didn't sound like an arpeggio and locked the number one in my head
The thing is that every scale played is a major scale, which means that 1-3-5 would be a broken chord for that major scale
By it not sounding like a major chord, it is quite obvious that it is 1-3-6
@@geordiepunchingahorse423 I think i actually came to the conclusion that it was 136, before it was revealed, but for a half a second, i was torn between that and 135, because i didnt really notice that the frequency difference is the same for all notes, and i watched this video with the assumption that im tone deaf, and i wasnt confident in making deductions on that shaky ground. I kind of assumed that the answer could be 135, but cuz im tone deaf i hear a bigger gap between 3 and 5, but at the last milisecond of that half a second i decided to just go with what i think i heard.
@@Crummerce dr.dre
Lol for the first going up and going down one I forgot to pause it and I didn’t get a chance, the 1-5 one I forgot to pause as well. The 1-3-6 I got the 1-6, but I guessed 1-2-6 instead
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, i know) i found this so easy that i could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. i have been playing the harmonica since i was 3. i'm 52 now and i still have retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
well as someone with perfect pitch (pretty impressive, I know) I found this so easy I could do it with the video muted. guess that's just one of the many benefits that come with 70 years of harmonica playing. I have been playing the harmonica since I was 3. I'm 52 now and I still retained my perfect pitch even after 400 years !!!
This comment broke my Ears(mind)
I think the difficulty with determining perfect pitch is that some common examples of perfect pitch include being able to name the note that was made. You don't test a child's ability to differentiate consonants by using the alphabet if they're still learning it. They don't know which sounds go to which letter yet and some letters can look similar to each other like some some sounds can. That doesn't necessarily mean that you can't differentiate them from each other. However that then goes into relative pitch and not perfect pitch. I think people use perfect pitch around in contexts that still involve musical training to the point that the concept has become blurred. If the requirement is that you can put a name to the note, then you can't be born with that. Even replicating a pitch with your voice still requires some degree of vocal training because you are learning how to mimic the note. The ability of perfect pitch is so intertwined with musical ability that it's very difficult to determine that you have it without involving some degree of training or musical intuition.
Edit: overblew it when talking about advanced training.
Nope......:) I have known some kids that had perfect pitch with no advanced music training even though they could sing. Anyway, perfect pitch is not the ultimate skill of all, even though it is amazing to see people with it....:)
if you do solid musical training from around 4-6 years old it is very likely that you will gain perfect pitch
Just look up The Crosbys channel, all 3 of their kids have perfect pitch (tested at 3 years old, without musical notes)
You are right. This video is an example of RELATIVE pitch, not perfect pitch. 🎹
i thought so too. This was definitely more relative pitch. i forget which round it was, but when the note was played, i immediately recognized it as a g but didn't have enough time to figure out which number it was. then for the intervals, i could hear do-mi-sol but not know the notes or numbers and so got it wrong.
i play like 5 instruments and am in 2 bands and i was still shocked that i passed everything.
So I am not tone deaf… but I feel the scale portion is going a bit fast… to those who never had musicale training it might prove a bit fast to remember the positions of the tones within the scale. Yet a clear difference is audible, the memory of its location hasn’t been established and therefor it’s impossible to anyone who doesn’t have perfect audible memory.
That's the point, the last part is supposed to be extremely difficult if you don't have formal training, UNLESS you have perfect pitch. If you naturally have perfect pitch that last part will still be easy even with no training.
@@jessicastjames6202 If I gave you a sequence 1=D, 2=Ö, 3=A, 4=E, 5=G, 6=X, 7=P and 8=R, then asked you to tell me what AGD is, you'd have a difficult time remembering it's 351 despite you immediately recognizing letters from one another... or are you saying you think it's super difficult to tell letters apart because you can't remember the corresponding number I assigned to each one?
For example, I could tell the first sound was on the higher end, not the highest, but I'd need to hear 5, 6 and 7 again to remember what they were specifically.
I agree. I was 1 off on each of the tones consistently which can only suggest its going to fast.
try singing do re mi fa so la... out loud when looking at the numbers..
@@jessicastjames6202 wow then I most likely have perfect pitch. Thank you that makes me happy. I've been told that before but it still makes me smile
I passed the first five and had no idea on the identify by number section.
It wasn't a gradual progression; all of the first five stages were very easy, and I had no chance whatsoever with the rest. It's like going from basic addition to calculus.
Regardless, it doesn't matter because I'm hopeless at learning music. I took a class on music in the elementary school and failed it twice because students were required to learn to read music, and I apparently am incapable of doing that. The lesson would make sense while the professor was teaching it, then when I'd attempt to do it on my own, it no longer made sense. It also is a lot like calculus in that way, but harder.
I think they go too fast through the notes. I was off. But close.
You aren't hopeless. You learned how to read english, beginner level sheet music is much simpler than that. If you found a good teacher who could explain it to you 1 on 1 you would have a much better time.
It took me 6 years to understand music theory fundamentals. Don't give up!
if it makes you feel better i've been playing guitar for about 6 years or so and played piano for 2 years, and i still haven't really learned how to read music lol. but i'd say i'm a pretty decent guitar player so honestly it doesn't impact me that much where i am now.
unless you study music theory or already know you have perfect pitch, that section will be really hard. ive studied music theory and i still had to pause the video and sing it in my head and replay the sequence a few times before i could decide on an answer. it's especially difficult when you're given random numbers to associate the notes with, don't worry!
Ok once it got to the part with the numbers I bombed so hard. Definitely something I need to work on 🤣
Omg same…it was nuts
Same🤧
i was perfect before but numbers confuse me
Same here
it's probably because you have to memorize which number is which note, cause I wasn't able to put in my brain "this number is this sound". I hate numbers. But hey, now I know I'm not tone deaf. I feel good that I may have perfect pitch or close to it at least, because I'm able to hear the slightest different in pitch pretty often.
I was so close 😭. I said 1-4-6 for the last one instead of 1-3-6. Still super fun!
Bruh I said 2-3-6 😂
The fact that I’ve only learnt music through FL Studio, and now I actually know that I have relative pitch hearing, since I passed all the stages makes a whole lot more sense lol. I’ve always been good at recreating other melodies, that’s literally how I started making music in FL. So I’m glad 4 years of messing around in FL Studio actually got me somewhere besides only making music
Same here brother lol
Same
I need beats
relative pitch is not something you are born with, it's something you train bro :)
Same. FL unintentionally trained me to know what notes actually work together over the first 1-2 years of producing when I started at like 16 years old
It took me way to long to realize they weren't actually the notes a and b. Thought I was going crazy when they were doing octaves. I was like "why are they not both A"
I agree the use of letters there was confusing at first, but just fyi, none of the A vs. B questions were an octave. The second one was a minor 7th which is pretty close but if you thought any of them were any octave, go back and listen again.
I have absolute pitch (aka perfect pitch), and noticed people worrying about not doing the sequences. Don’t fret if you can’t do the last stages, for they’re literally meant to eliminate the large majority of people. Absolute pitch is useful and fun, and relative pitch is definitely a good skill to work on developing if you don’t have absolute pitch, but you can be a great musician without it! Also, I’d say there are some indirect cons to it too (absolute, not relative) 😅
You don't need perfect pitch to do that last exercise. I don't have perfect pitch and I did it
My pitch is better then I expected, I don't have perfect pitch but I'm still happy
What are the cons?
I got the last two but it's only because I've played triads in different voicings over and over. I hesitated on the last one, but because of the distinctive minor sound, I knew it had to include a natural minor. Didn't think my pitch ability was that good!
@@Anna-rf5un I'm guessing every time you hear something whether it be a song or just a random sound your brain would force you to name the pitch
After playing bass for 7 years this video finally affirmed me that I am in fact a musician
The last one is incredibly easy to recognise for any pianist, it's the first arpeggiated chord in still D.R.E. Every pianist has played it at least once
Im a musician myself and i recognized it immediately and thougt that the song would be played now as a joke :D
Yeah. I’ve even played a dre/megalovania mix before ._.
I THOUGHT I RECOGNIZED IT OMG
I've never played it but I've heard it eveeywhere so I could know what was the note without even playing it
I didn’t realize that at first but after hearing it again I heard it 😂
Interesting video, but true tone deafness is actually almost as rare as Perfect Pitch. I have perfect pitch, meaning the ability to identify and produce notes without a reference pitch. The tone deafness, however, is the inability, when hearing two notes, distinguish which is higher and which is lower. Perfect Pitch and tone deafness occasionally come as a package deal, oddly enough. Not for me, luckily, but for some people.
Could you explain how someone could possibly have both? If you can identify both of the notes, say D sharp and F sharp in the same octave, how could you not know that F sharp is the higher pitch?
@@jsdsparky some people with perfect pitch can identify a note but not what octave its in, so they can hear two notes and name them, but not which octave it's in. Thus they don't know which is higher or lower
@@gabrielkrows488 Makes sense, thank you. It's very interesting to think about what those people are picking up on, that they can identify the note but not the octave, considering our notions of notes, full and half steps, are just abstractions on top of a continuous range of frequencies. Something very interesting happening in the brain.
I sometimes get confused try to hear harmonies on a song with a lot of harmonies and instruments and lead singer. I can hear parts but I get confused as to what part I’m hearing. Sometimes I think I over think it though.
@@killlamas57 I don't really understand what your trying to say. Could you repeat it mire concise?
I've never had proper training, but I've been trying to learn instruments by ear since I was a kid. At the numbers part i was always off by one 😅 but I know it's harder than the rest so I'm glad I was at least close, I plan on working on this and learning theory too
Lol, I checked this entire comment section to find someone like me. The second and third number question were both off by one for me too
Not really. Its really easy for me. Maybe it's because I've grown up in church, near music all of the time.
@@koaruu why are you trying to humblebrag on a video like this? "Not really" like anyone asked. Not only that but you copy and paste the same comment on multiple threads. Did you not get enough attention or praise growing up?
Lol same 🤣👌🏻
@@koaruu ok
my parents are musicians, i was in choir and orchestra for years, i play 6 instruments, and i still struggled with the solfege at the end. (the 1-8 sequence for the unaware). don't feel bad if you didn't get it, especially if you're not a professionally trained musician.
*Cries in bad short term memory*
REAL! I had to play each of the last parts 3 times a piece😭😭😭😭. I only got one wrong tho
I did well until the identify the sequential notes.
it’s not a short term memory test, you have to hear the notes and recreate them and then match them with the asked one
@@ilovecheese1297 ... using short term memory. This is very much a short term memory test xD 😭😭
@@DocTitan no it seems like it but trust me IT ISNT! like you just remember the first note (do) and make all the other six notes (re mi fa so la ti do) using your own voice, then you compare the note they’ve asked you to identify with to the seven notes,
you only have to know how the first note goes and make the rest urself lol. thats how i did it cus i can’t imagine remembering all seven myself
As someone with perfect pitch, I've actually been playing the flute in a band with 7 other people. I have been playing for 273 years, so I guess that's why it was so easy for me to tell that note A was actually a C sharp, and B was actually not a note, in fact it was the sound waves being interpreted by a solar panel orbiting the sun. lmao guess I'm just pitch perfect guys. Also did I mention that I can tune my flute by ear.
That’s impressive you’ve been playing for 273 years! Did you ever meet Beethoven by any chance?
I had the same laugh - "That's not even close to an A!"
so you must b dead at 273 years; who u playing for now? God or the devil?
I think you guys misunderstood it's not suppose to be an A or B chords it's simply A or B choice
@@pomfric whoosh. We know lol. They’re also not “chords” they’re notes/tones. A chord is 3 or more tones together
The first two ones with the 8 notes i just didnt understand but once i understood i got the last one perfectly which made me so happy u have no idea
i thought i was tone deaf, but thanks for the test.
Yup, now I know I just suck at singing and have no other excuse!
@@patrickr8400 thats what i was looking for, at least I can impove. People that are tone deaf are likely not going to get better like how people without perfect wont be able to develop it
After 14 years of playing piano I’m glad to announce that I’m not tome deaf yayyy
This was fun! I went to school for music and I struggled a lot with aural skills. I don't really have a very strong inner ear, I cant "hear" pitches in my head so it was a lot of guessing.
wait we're supposed to be able to make a mental noise??
@@dragonsaway9710 making mental noises isn’t a normal thing? My common sense is kinda fucked then
That probably means you have Anauralia
Well I'm kind of the opposite, since I can't "see" things in my mind (aka Aphantasia), but I can hear just fine! I could never do the "imagine in your mind", but I can easily hear any music I have heard in my head pretty clearly.
congrats you're an npc
0:11 why does A sound like Thick Of It piano start
you guys obsess over this song too much lol
No it doesn’t?
Cuz that the note it starts om lmao
no way 😭😭
markus learns what a note is
I used to be completely tone deaf. After a few thousand hours of guitar and a half a decade dating a choral major, I am fairly well stable with a relative pitch.
Lost the second to last thing with two notes. Said "1-3 maybe 1-4" and it was 1-5. But got the last one perfect with 1-3-6. Other than that I got them all right
Well done 👍
I have to stop and count up the octave to get the notes right. Otherwise all I can identify is that they’re not adjacent notes. XD
Wait me too but i was like “its either this (1-3) or that (1-4) and if its something else i am deaf thats for sure”
obviously the last one is still dre
Same
Quite a difficult test for me. I'm everything except tone deaf. But I had more difficulties paying attentions to the actual numbers rather than the tones. Like "Was that note the 4 or the 5. I've got the note memorized but not the number... wait let me grab my guitar to hear"
Yeah, I could also sing the note but wasn't able to memorize the number 😅
The problem was that they don't give you enough time to memorize which number correlates to which note.
@@synthellaart1587 I was able to do those parts by just knowing the starting note on the scale and replaying the scale in my head until I hit the note.
@@ethnictendo the point isn’t to memorize it. It’s to internalize the scale.
@@rachelhansen2417 No idea what that even means. But those three were the only ones I screwed up on, so it's clear I'm not entirely tone-deaf.
A way i figured out to remember pitches to letters/numbers is by looking at each letter/number as the pitch plays.
I cannot identify the sequence of numbers that they presented in the scale, but I can remember it and play it on my guitar (or even a piano). I can also play most songs by ear. My opinion is that this test's premise was a little flawed. The part where they tested if the participant could identify a single note simply tested perfect pitch. Relative pitch needs at least two notes. The second an third parts of the test were fine.
im pretty sure i dont have perfect pitch, but i got the single note simply by remembering how the rest of the scale sounds. all i had to do was replay the scale in my head and then match the correct note.
It is a correct measurement, relative pitch is mostly used for intervals, which is what they played. You know what note you are hearing in relation to other one that you've heard or know.
same, i can replay most songs by ear on my sax yet i struggle to find which note is which and called out...
They did not test perfect pitch in the video, all the tests were given initial base tones. And either comparing or identifying relative scale degrees. But there certainly wasnt a test where solely a tone was given and you were supposed to identify which note it was
@@shapi541 that is exactly what relative pitch is, it’s identifying a note relative to a scale.
Here's a little trick for the number part. It helps me to remember the intervals by assigning a popular song to them.
1-2 would be something like the beginning notes of Happy Birthday
1-3 would be like the Harry Potter theme
1-4 would be like here comes the bride
1-5 would be like Twinkle Twinkle, or the Star Wars theme
1-8 would be like Somewhere over the rainbow
Obviously there's more I didn't account for, but this is a good starting place and it helps me remember them
5 IS THE G NOTE. FROM WELCOME TO THE BLACK PARADE. I NEARLY SCREAMED.
1-7 would be the ri in Maria from West Side Story.
1-b2 would be the Jaws theme or Fur Elise
@@maskedmallard537 Maria is a tritone, so 4-7 would be more like it. (I think it’s actually do to fi in the score. “Maria”…do - fi - so.)
@@joshuaallen4181 Just played it thru on my little keyboard. While one of the Maria's does do a tritone, one makes the major 7 leap.
When I think of tritone, I think of the bell tones ringing in the beginning of the graveyard scene of Phantom of the Opera.
I've always figured I was some level of tone deaf since I'm so bad at music stuff. I guess not since stages 1-5 were trivially easy, but then in stage 6+ I was completely useless. Like it could have said the note was any of the 8 and I wouldn't have batted an eye. It was really caught off guard after how easy the previous stages were.
Same here!
Yes it's just a trick the person who made the video is using it's part of the advertisement for the school. The fact is the last part where they played a whole scale is difficult for people who have had no ear training. If you do some relative pitch ear training so you are able to recognize the intervals and be able to say that is a minor third or that's a major third or that is a sixth or that is a perfect fifth etc then the last part of the exercise would have been quite easy. It's not because you lack an ability it's just because you haven't practiced it's like any skill. For example i can tell you the group of ascending notes at 2:10 is a major triad, 1 3 5 . It's nothing special it's just because I've done ear training. Anyone can do it.
@@Ana_crusis idk i was able to get 2 right and in the first one i guessed 4 instead of 5 (which is pretty close, plus i wasn't paying as much attention because 1-5 were so trivial)
I dunno what happened, maybe because I didn't get enough sleep (eveb though I'm not a musical genius even when well rested) I got kind of destroyed on stage 5, then nearly aced stage 6
@@Ana_crusis Ah, yeah I should have known it was something like that. Like a version of those Facebook ads that say "98% of people can't solve this!" or whatever.
My oldest sibling was able to play stuff on her toy piano as a 4 year old after hearing a song, she just instinctively knew exactly how to play a song without any piano lessons. But sadly our parents didn't put in the time, money and effort to put that skill to test. I really believe she could have been a concert pianist with different parents. I know if I showed her this video she would get everything right.
@@jonniefast no.. if you have musically inclined parents, your natural talent is fostered immensely better than if you don't have parents who give a shit or understand.
@@jonniefast As a child, your entire life revolves around your parents when it comes to self improvement, they will foster your skills and they will provide you resources. The sad thing is you can actually throw away a lot of opportunities on your own even if your parents care, but if your parents don't care you can only really start improving after you become an adult, which puts you at a huge disadvantage because adult life often means you don't have much free time for self development. So yes parents are the most important aspect of your development.
@@jonniefast it's not really that simple. when u are a child, you're parents make the decisions for you. so if you have musically inclined parents, u are in favour, but if they are not willing to support, u can't really do anything about it.
@Purple PencilGrey-Pink Not if you have simply piano🤣🤣
I used to be good at that but couldn’t afford music lessons and now i don’t have time or money
it’s sad but it’s life I guess
I am actually pitch perfect, I got it from my grandfather I believe and I have the ability to play any instrument that is handed to me without even needing to know the fingerings for the instrument, I also regularly play the oboe and all different types of percussion instruments for fun, but have been known to play the piano and violin in the past as if I have been practicing them for years but no, the oboe is my main instrument and was my first one I actually started playing and later on mastered
Even as someone that’s dedicated 10 of my 18 years to French horn and is currently in AP Music Theory, I was still pretty concerned that I would fail this 😂😂
If I did, which I didn’t, I would have questioned my entire life
Yesssss french horn is the best! :)
I played the violin I would have done the same thing xD
I play 4 instruments now and started piano at 8. When I took AP music theory at 17 yrs old. I apologized to the person who recorded my sight singing for the ap exam. The harmonic progression and note progression aural parts killed me. Still got a 5 though. I memorize pitches by playing around the notes on bassoon in my head since it’s much easier to distinguish than piano and was my second instrument that I played in band starting at 11 years old.
A random TH-cam video would have made you question your entire life? I think that fact alone should make you question some things about yourself
@@mimic6494 It was a joke
The number part requires more memorization actually.
The problem I have is that I have the audition of an old person. I can't hear certain high frequencies.
Lost at stage five… quite proud of how far I’ve come, especially since I am deaf.
as a musician the last couple i could do only because i have practiced this major scale before (lots of people do this its kinda hard not to) . You should be very proud if you can do the last ones without musical knowledge. I can almost guarantee this online school will have you doing exercises where you memorize this scale, so its normal for people without experience to be unable to do it.
I’ve been a musician my entire life. Interval recognition takes a lot of practice and experience. Thankfully, I have both of those 🙃
Never played an instrument and was never affiliated with music practice up until 10th grade school lessons but got these numbers right O.o
@@timogeerties3487 Hey, you may have perfect pitch 🤷♂️
@@StacheBigote I'm certain I don't have perfect pitch and I got it right...
I think it would have been easier if they held the notes at the end to build a chord. Sometimes I forget where the notes were, so I had to sing it back to myself a couple of times.
@@devon6986 Then you probably got it using a bit of logic and luck. Interval recognition isn’t easy if you don’t have practice or perfect pitch. The way this test is set up, your odds of getting right aren’t that crazy if you can differentiate between high and low pitches.
No one's actually completely "tone deaf" as they wouldn't be able to distinguish people's voices or music from noise, especially with the claim that "1 in 20" are tone deaf... That'd make the amount of people that listen to music significantly lower. Plus, tone recognition can be trained further to the point where anyone can be trained to carry a tune (most with assistance, meaning not alone). I've trained "tone deaf" people to sing with a group before, it's difficult but possible, so if you think you're tone deaf, don't give up, it's sometimes very hard and frustrating, but it is possible to at least be able to carry a tune.
Damn bruh you really had to write a whole paragraph lol
I'd argue that 99.99% or so of people are partially tone deaf. Perfect pitch can be a blessing, but generally it's just a drag, one that makes a very few of us conscious of how imperfect everyone's tune is. Having autism and OCD alongside it doesn't help matters. :P
@@trainscout Yup. Lol
@@trainscout
I found the paragraph interesting actually ☺️
@@trainscout Did you find yourself getting bored reading it? Maybe work on your attention span.
In order to pass level 6, it’s likely that you have to have ear training and aural skills. I have taken a year of aural theory in college and was barely able to pass level 6. It goes pretty fast.
I got level six correct and I've never been trained at all; however, I got the two questions before level six wrong. Kind of odd.
For me it felt more like a memory thing than anything else
I actually just figured out the intervals in my head for that whole section. I don't believe that's relative pitch.
@@raveun2thejoy bro same, I did 4 when it was 5 and 1-2 when it was 1-5 but then I got 1-3-6
yeah i couldn’t get those at all hahah
0:50 I just bought a pistol it got 30 rounds in it
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If you identified the last three notes as the first chord of „Still D.R.E.“, you the real one 👌
Was waiting for this one 🤣🤣
@@isaacwalters747 same
ok i did
fuck, beat me to it