Super fun video. I definitely see Oscar and Andrea holding on to their titles for a while, as Jeff and production seem quite committed to new player only seasons for the foreseeable future.
Natalie falls in your category though and still made the list 🤷♀️ I can’t even think of a single player who made it to the end because all of the separate alliances saw them as a goat, who would also be considered messy.
@@ashen_rosesThat's an entirely different show. Not even in the conversation. Same reason Sadaharu Oh isn't the name we think of when it comes to the career home run record.
I'm not trying to hate, but I really don't think votes received and messy gameplay are correlated at all. Half this list is good players who were targets. Thats not messy. As someone else said, messy players usually don't get a lot of votes because they're either voted off quickly or taken to the end.
You know, i think people misunderstand players like joe. When you're good at the outplay portion, everyone becomes scared of an immunity run. They aren't allowed to play the social or strategic portion of the game because they have become the universal target from everyone.
Thank you for making this video! I love survivor TH-cam but never knew Ciera voted out her mom! I can’t believe no one has ever talked about it before!
Started laughing when i saw the premise of the video because I just knew Andrea wold be here😂 It must be so scary stanning Andrea during a live season and she looks like she’s getting voted out for 75% of the episodes lol
@@OnceUponAnIsland to be fair, I do not pay attention to things closely I saw Phillip and Wentworth and that was good enough for me I genuinely looked at no one else 😂
I wouldn’t necessarily consider Joe a bad player, he was just too much of a physical threat. People knew if he went on an immunity run and made it to the finals that he would win the game. And obviously that’s going to make people want to vote you out. But to me, that’s having a high threat level not being a bad player.
I always thought Ciera voting her mom out made perfect sense and wasn't that cutthroat, since she told her! There was no way she or Laura would have made it far as a duo, so the only way to break free of it was to vote with the group, so she could have a chance to win (and even share with her mom if she wanted). Then Jeff went on and on about it, because that's exactly the dramatic scenario they wanted when they came up with the blood vs water concept: for a contestant to vote for a loved one. As a mom, I'm sure Laura was fine with it too, because she wanted her daughter to have a chance.
Jonathan Penner had a bad rap the moment he stepped foot on Cook Island. That guy never caught a break. He continues to be one of my all-time favorite players. But that's in large part due to his post survivor struggles and his relationship with Yul Kwon (another personal favorite). He really is a great player and a fun person to watch.
I miss the gradual rise of amount of votes Survivor contestants would collect in seasons. With the new era I doubt anyone would get close to this top 10.
My boi, Boston Rob, is the goat at landing himself TV gigs. You have to admit, the mess he brings to the game is super fun. He's a gambling man, too, so Deal or No Deal Island is 🔥with Mariano there, poker face locked.
Messy to me would be flippers and stumblers. The likes of Chase from Nicaragua, Julie from Redemption Island and even Tony Vlachos I would describe as messy players. Their moves are less calculated compared to others and can be completely unpredictable (making for better TV mind you) Players getting the most votes are just players who have a higher threat level to either win, or be brought along to the end.
I thought she got 9 voted season 25, 1 in final 10, 3 negated in final 8, 1 one final 6, and four in final 5. And 14 in season 31, 4 in the first tribal, 2 in the first swap vote, 3 in final 9, 1 in final 8 and 4 in final 7 1+3+1+4+4+2+3+1+4=23
this would’ve been incredible. i liked everyone in the final 4 in different ways and i’m a parv girl at heart but jerri manthey HvV winner would’ve slayed!!!!
Considering the actual voting, I wouldn't have been surprised if she would have won had Russell stuck with his initial plan and voted Parvati out of the final three instead of Jerri, and I would have been much happier with a Jerri win than a Sandra win. I definitely feel Jerri she would have won in a final 3 against Russell and Parvati. It feels a bit weird to me that Russell would want to put Jerri on the jury just because he thought he'd get her vote (and he wasn't even right about that), as one needs a lot more than jury one vote to win.
Getting lots of votes doesn't mean you're bad, it means you're controversial or a threat. Those can be good things if you manage to make your way deep into the game.
Joe’s biggest problem was that he started off being such an immunity threat, and then he lacked the ability to be like Tony, another immunity threat, but who insulated himself around other people and downplayed his abilities.
I really want someone to make a video that's the players who've caught the most cummulative stray votes. Like how many times have they gotten a vote but weren't the target of a major alliance
I would disagree with the term messiest. Some of these people, like BR are getting lots of votes because they've played a lot or because they are genuine threats. Actually messy players often don't get votes because they get dragged to the final 2/3.
tho strategically not the worst - her gameplay must be seen as messy… francesca, though i like her, attended 2 tribals, in 2 seasons, and got 10 out of a potential 17 votes… And was the only double first boot… she has a 100% vote out rate! even if she wasn’t a bad player, something she’s doing is messy to claim those stats
I think the worst players all get carried until the final 4 or later because they’ll be easy to beat.. in fact, they may not get any votes until late in the game.
Bhanu (he loves the game but is the worst at playing it. Can't lie, has no strategy, explodes at TC and now he has spilled the beans about his tribe to others for no reason). Number 1 in my book (I realize you used other criteria, though)
Kelley was a strategic player , if anything. Missy was the terrible female in survior san juan duel , Missy was screaming and being rude to Natalie after Natalie blindsided Baylor
Not a messy player in the sense used here but Rich, and the guy that was eventually throw out for touching up a production assistant after being all handsy with more than one of the women on his team.
Based upon the variables regarding the amount each player played, ranking how “messy” a player was is not accurately reflected in True Dork Times’ and your methodology. To account for the “frequency of play” variable, I created the “Messy Index”. Messy Index = [(Vote Outs - Wins) / Seasons Played] X (Votes / Tribals) I used your method of counting all votes even if the vote was negated by an Idol. If we calculate the Messy Index for the highlighted players, this is how they would rank. Understand that other players who weren’t included in your video might have a higher Messy Index. Player Messy Index Your Rank
Most misleading title award / worst measure of what makes the "worst" player. If you are constantly receiving votes (aka seen as a big threat) but surviving episode after episode by outplaying someone else and making sure they have more votes than you... in no world does that make you the "worst" survivor player.
Michele is great! But wouldn't Earl be the best since he only played once, won, and got 1 vote against? I can't think of anyone else who won and has only 1 vote or less against them in their career?
@OnceUponAnIsland depends how much the number of days played plays a factor, and how much votes received negatively impact the score. Guess we will need Winners at War 2 with Earl and Michele to settle this!
What does being a bad player have to do with getting more votes? People often vote for their best competition… If we go buy this rubric, Christin Hidicki is a worse player than Natalie Cole, for example. Makes no sense.
@@OnceUponAnIsland true , I guess I just don’t understand the concept of this video. I don’t understand how getting your name written down reflects poorly on you as a player . Maybe I missed something
no way, rob should not be in this list , he ruled the game in season 8 (his second time) , if he wasnt there no way amber would have made it this far , he braught her there (amber is conseidered not one of great winners) , so no wonder in season 20 he was big threat , and in season 22 of course he won (no matter how stupid were the contastants) so therfore , boston rob is one of the best contestants of all time
I think the list has to be split into to. Because alone Phillip and Joe are two completely different beasts. Phillips gets voted because he is straight up annoying and people hate him. Not because he is a threat. He really is a bad and messy player. Joe on the other hand is a THREAT. And it does not matter how often he comes back people know it. They like him but they know, they have to send him home or he will clutch the win. He is not a bad player. Same for Laura and Boston Rob. If people know you are a threat from before. Bye bye.
How does somebody like Mary not make this list😂😂 the lady who had to be told to pick up the idol right in front of her and cries every day. I mean clearly she’s a worse player than wentworth the criteria of this list is a little stupid but still interesting
I don't think messy is the right word. You could be playing really good that's why votes are coming your way and playing really good isn't messy at all.
I know the basis of determining the scale was # of votes against but I honestly dont think some of these players were the "messiest" of them all.......
Messiest I definitely agree with, you want to avoid getting votes. However worst is a stretch since often good players get votes often. But I see where you're getting at with the premise. I consider Rob and Ozzy quite good, but yeah having played a bunch of times you're bound to rack up votes. At least Rob got 8 votes once to net a win.
This is a poor way to measure this. You should have included other factors like how often the player voted correctly (for the eliminated castaway at tribal) as well as challenge prowess.
you look at it the wrong way , in season 8 he almost won (4-3 lost to his future wife) but everyone admit that amber was there in the first place thanks to rob great game
I hope when it comes a time when Cirie finally wins survivor, IF EVER, people are also going to be like “it took her five times to finally win” or “despite it being on her fifth try”… I love Cirie but the fact are the facts and if people are always constantly throwing it in Boston Rob’s face they should also throw it in her face. You couldn’t even make it through this video not pointing it out.. other than that, good video
Yeah, I’m aware that you have made videos on Cirie. I’m saying that when (if) she finally wins Survivor on her fifth, sixth… try, would there be a constant throwing in her face that it took her all those times to win. Again, I love Cirie but I hope you would do so considering how you and many others likes to always point out the caveat of “it did take him four times to win though” type of rhetoric for Rob.
I’m mentioning Cirie particularly because (1) she is a universally beloved contestant; (2) she has expressed interest in playing again and (3) of the people who want to play again who also has the best shot at returning, it would’ve officially taken her more times to win the game than Rob. Again, Cirie is one of my all time favorite players, but fair is fair. If always upon mentioning Rob that his win deserves an asterisk because it was his fourth time playing, the same energy should be applied to someone like Cirie who (1) has never won and (2) even in victory, would’ve taken longer than Rob to accomplish such feats.
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Super fun video. I definitely see Oscar and Andrea holding on to their titles for a while, as Jeff and production seem quite committed to new player only seasons for the foreseeable future.
Ok, why's this comment 5 months old? 😭
@@nyawerror8936 04:40
The messiest/worst players often don't get many votes at all, because everyone wants to sit next to them at the end.
This is a comment about Dead Fish Will
And the good players sometimes get the biggest blindsides. Like Marrisa
Not really. Most often players aren’t willing to work with messy players because they are unpredictable
or because they get voted out too quick
Natalie falls in your category though and still made the list 🤷♀️ I can’t even think of a single player who made it to the end because all of the separate alliances saw them as a goat, who would also be considered messy.
Shoutout to Karishma for racking up 22 votes against in only ONE season
If she hadn't negated any votes, she would have made this list easy.
Krishma is my favorite modern era story
That record will never be broken (barring some huge shift in how the game is played). It's almost mathematically impossible at this point.
This is a different format so it probably counts less, but a dude got 25 votes, 5 in revotes and 8 negated, in the most recent Australian Survivor
@@ashen_rosesThat's an entirely different show. Not even in the conversation. Same reason Sadaharu Oh isn't the name we think of when it comes to the career home run record.
Wait your telling me it took SEVERAL votes to get ozzy to redemption island on the SEVERALTH episode?!?!
Jelinsky... is that you?!?
@@OnceUponAnIslandNo, it isn't. Notice how they finished the comment and didn't give up midway through?
@@dashieprodx💀💀💀
@@dashieprodx💀
Both Ciera and her mom (who she voted out) being here is the perfect irony I need for this video.
You really should have included the fact the Ciera voted out her own mom
SHE DID WHAT?!?!?!
I'm not trying to hate, but I really don't think votes received and messy gameplay are correlated at all. Half this list is good players who were targets. Thats not messy. As someone else said, messy players usually don't get a lot of votes because they're either voted off quickly or taken to the end.
It's all subjective.
@@OnceUponAnIslandIt'S aLl SuBjEcTiVe
You know, i think people misunderstand players like joe. When you're good at the outplay portion, everyone becomes scared of an immunity run. They aren't allowed to play the social or strategic portion of the game because they have become the universal target from everyone.
Good explanation for his game I get get why people hate so much on him
well he’s also racist so i think that’s a good reason to hate him
well he’s also racist so that’s a pretty good reason to hate him
I don’t get why that’s what I meant
joe is racist
Thank you for making this video! I love survivor TH-cam but never knew Ciera voted out her mom! I can’t believe no one has ever talked about it before!
It's a secret. Please don't tell anyone.
@@OnceUponAnIslandScrew you. HEY EVERYONE DID YOU KNOW CIERA VOTED OUT HER MUM!!!!!
Survivor was my grandma’s favorite show. I love your channel, and I know that if she were still alive, she would too. Thanks for your hard work.
Thank you!
Wentworth and Andrea in the same video is iconic
Forget Sandra and Parvati. Wentworth and Boehlke are MY queens.
Started laughing when i saw the premise of the video because I just knew Andrea wold be here😂 It must be so scary stanning Andrea during a live season and she looks like she’s getting voted out for 75% of the episodes lol
Also she is in the thumbnail LOL
@@OnceUponAnIsland to be fair, I do not pay attention to things closely I saw Phillip and Wentworth and that was good enough for me I genuinely looked at no one else 😂
She was my winner pick for Game Changers…
Did you know that Kelley failed math in Elementary school?
Her teacher said "Wentworth will not count."
I wouldn’t necessarily consider Joe a bad player, he was just too much of a physical threat. People knew if he went on an immunity run and made it to the finals that he would win the game. And obviously that’s going to make people want to vote you out. But to me, that’s having a high threat level not being a bad player.
I always thought Ciera voting her mom out made perfect sense and wasn't that cutthroat, since she told her! There was no way she or Laura would have made it far as a duo, so the only way to break free of it was to vote with the group, so she could have a chance to win (and even share with her mom if she wanted). Then Jeff went on and on about it, because that's exactly the dramatic scenario they wanted when they came up with the blood vs water concept: for a contestant to vote for a loved one. As a mom, I'm sure Laura was fine with it too, because she wanted her daughter to have a chance.
Redemption Island will never not feel like Jeff’s attempt to get BR a survivor win
Jeff doesn’t make the rules and didn’t create the show. He’s just a paid part of the cast. He’s not the producer, etc.
Joe at #9 shows him being the 9th person voted out during Episode 9.
Jonathan Penner had a bad rap the moment he stepped foot on Cook Island. That guy never caught a break. He continues to be one of my all-time favorite players. But that's in large part due to his post survivor struggles and his relationship with Yul Kwon (another personal favorite). He really is a great player and a fun person to watch.
I miss the gradual rise of amount of votes Survivor contestants would collect in seasons. With the new era I doubt anyone would get close to this top 10.
We need some more returnee seasons!
@@OnceUponAnIsland Season 50 perhaps?
I personally wish 46 was a fans vs favorites sort of deal, but it looks like they are holding out until 50 at this rate.
@@OnceUponAnIslandThat could have work in 46 fans vs favorite!
how are these comments from 5 months ago
9:06 "This counts as 4 votes" excellent editing choice
Glad someone noticed 😆
I wonder if there’s a messy winner video coming up.
Just dropped a messy winner video yesterday lol
I'm shocked Russell Hantz isn't on this list, but I suppose the numbers don't lie.
He only got voted out once, which helps a lot.
@@OnceUponAnIsland does Australian Survivor not count?
It never does. That is a different show/franchise.
He got a lot of votes negated due to his idol plays!
My boi, Boston Rob, is the goat at landing himself TV gigs. You have to admit, the mess he brings to the game is super fun. He's a gambling man, too, so Deal or No Deal Island is 🔥with Mariano there, poker face locked.
Jelinsky would be #1 if the title of this video was the opposite
Heheh, I am only 1/3rd into the video and I already know who the "winner" is, and looking at the stats...damn. My girl DOMINATES this category.
Fun fact: Andrea also has the HIGHEST player rating for team challenges of ALL PLAYERS.
Messy to me would be flippers and stumblers. The likes of Chase from Nicaragua, Julie from Redemption Island and even Tony Vlachos I would describe as messy players. Their moves are less calculated compared to others and can be completely unpredictable (making for better TV mind you)
Players getting the most votes are just players who have a higher threat level to either win, or be brought along to the end.
Yeah Tony literally played the least messy game of all time in winners at war
An honourable mention should be abi maria who got 23 voted across 21 tribal and was voted out twice
She got 21 votes and negated 3. So close.
Oh
I thought she got
9 voted season 25, 1 in final 10, 3 negated in final 8, 1 one final 6, and four in final 5.
And 14 in season 31, 4 in the first tribal, 2 in the first swap vote, 3 in final 9, 1 in final 8 and 4 in final 7
1+3+1+4+4+2+3+1+4=23
Are negated votes not counted
If negated votes don't count then that's 1 less for rob, 9 less for wentworth, 5 less for Jonathan and five less for jerri
Savage getting voted out in that epic council is an all time favorite satisfying moment.
No Hanz in top 10? He neutralized at least like 15 votes against him
Believe it or not, Hantz does not have the 22 votes against him to make this list.
I will never get over Jerri not winning HvV
this would’ve been incredible. i liked everyone in the final 4 in different ways and i’m a parv girl at heart but jerri manthey HvV winner would’ve slayed!!!!
U must be joking lol
Parvati should’ve won not Jerri or Sandra
Considering the actual voting, I wouldn't have been surprised if she would have won had Russell stuck with his initial plan and voted Parvati out of the final three instead of Jerri, and I would have been much happier with a Jerri win than a Sandra win. I definitely feel Jerri she would have won in a final 3 against Russell and Parvati.
It feels a bit weird to me that Russell would want to put Jerri on the jury just because he thought he'd get her vote (and he wasn't even right about that), as one needs a lot more than jury one vote to win.
i think messy should also include how many times they flip on a plan/alliance, and how many wrong votes they get
Make a video with these stats and I will definitely watch!
Curious could you do a list with contestants who have gotten the most votes in history like Boston Rob or Abi Maria?
Of course, this video that you are commenting on is that video you are requesting. Enjoy!
Banger video! 🔥
Thanks 🔥
I feel like someone has definitely already topped Ozzy 😈
I been trying to top Ozzy for decades.
I disagree with Joe: he was voted out because of his strength, not for being messy
It's all just a subjective mathematical way to look at it.
7:10 killed me. 😂😂
I’m shocked Varner and frasequa aren’t on the list
I never would've thought Andrea would be #1 here. I tend to think of her as pretty decent as she goes far every time she played.
Getting lots of votes doesn't mean you're bad, it means you're controversial or a threat. Those can be good things if you manage to make your way deep into the game.
Joe’s biggest problem was that he started off being such an immunity threat, and then he lacked the ability to be like Tony, another immunity threat, but who insulated himself around other people and downplayed his abilities.
Tony was NOT an immunity threat. He only started winning in WaW and he was as shocked as anyone.
Tony as an immunity threat is wild, Cochran is more of an immunity threat than Tony.
Actually Boston Rob won twice in season 8 all starts and redemption island
I mean he did marry the winner of All-Stars and they have 4 kids. That's a lot of wins.
@@OnceUponAnIsland That’s true and they did The Amazing Race together
The mother snuffer 😂
After rewatching this video I think good ol’ bhanu would fit perfectly on this list
He didn't get enough votes.
I really want someone to make a video that's the players who've caught the most cummulative stray votes. Like how many times have they gotten a vote but weren't the target of a major alliance
Great idea, the patrons pick what videos I make.
I would disagree with the term messiest. Some of these people, like BR are getting lots of votes because they've played a lot or because they are genuine threats. Actually messy players often don't get votes because they get dragged to the final 2/3.
It's all subjective.
I need to know how many votes came at Jake in 45😭😭
I think the Survivor Wiki has all those numbers for each individual season. I am interested as well.
Jerri also isn’t one of the worst , she almost won heroes vs villians and she almost won season 2
Wentworth is a great player, one of the best
Im surprised Karishma didn’t make it
tho strategically not the worst - her gameplay must be seen as messy… francesca, though i like her, attended 2 tribals, in 2 seasons, and got 10 out of a potential 17 votes… And was the only double first boot… she has a 100% vote out rate! even if she wasn’t a bad player, something she’s doing is messy to claim those stats
I wonder if a quitter will be on the list
Watch and find out 😂
Things You Probably Don't Know:
1. Sami is 19
2. Ciera voted out her Mom
3. Sandra can get loud too, what the f*ck
Liz is rich!
I think the worst players all get carried until the final 4 or later because they’ll be easy to beat.. in fact, they may not get any votes until late in the game.
Well...after last episode, I think we just found a new number 1
Who?
Bhanu (he loves the game but is the worst at playing it. Can't lie, has no strategy, explodes at TC and now he has spilled the beans about his tribe to others for no reason). Number 1 in my book (I realize you used other criteria, though)
Who will probably crack this list if they ever play again? Karishma?
Christian as well, he had a lot of votes against in DvG and I could actually see him returning at some point.
Kelley was a strategic player , if anything. Missy was the terrible female in survior san juan duel , Missy was screaming and being rude to Natalie after Natalie blindsided Baylor
Not a messy player in the sense used here but Rich, and the guy that was eventually throw out for touching up a production assistant after being all handsy with more than one of the women on his team.
Based upon the variables regarding the amount each player played, ranking how “messy” a player was is not accurately reflected in True Dork Times’ and your methodology. To account for the “frequency of play” variable, I created the “Messy Index”.
Messy Index = [(Vote Outs - Wins) / Seasons Played] X (Votes / Tribals)
I used your method of counting all votes even if the vote was negated by an Idol. If we calculate the Messy Index for the highlighted players, this is how they would rank. Understand that other players who weren’t included in your video might have a higher Messy Index.
Player Messy Index Your Rank
1 Laura Morett 3.60 5
2 Joe Anglim 1.83 9
3 Andrea Bohlke 1.78 1
4 Ciera Easton 1.68 3
5 Ozzy Lusth 1.42 2
6 Kelley Wentworth 1.29 8
7 Jerri Manthey 1.17 7
8 Jonathon Penner 1.07 4
9 Phillip Sheppard 0.55 10
10 Boston Rob Mariano 0.30 6
Ciera got her wish of not playing for 4th......cause she got 6th place,10th place, and 20th place.
5th place BvW
Most misleading title award / worst measure of what makes the "worst" player. If you are constantly receiving votes (aka seen as a big threat) but surviving episode after episode by outplaying someone else and making sure they have more votes than you... in no world does that make you the "worst" survivor player.
Every player here got voted out. Almost all of them multiple times.
@OnceUponAnIsland by this logic Michele is the best player of all time (which... I'm here for)
Michele is great! But wouldn't Earl be the best since he only played once, won, and got 1 vote against? I can't think of anyone else who won and has only 1 vote or less against them in their career?
@OnceUponAnIsland depends how much the number of days played plays a factor, and how much votes received negatively impact the score. Guess we will need Winners at War 2 with Earl and Michele to settle this!
I thought Laura Moret (CIERA VOTED OUT HER OWN MOTHER!!!) would get less votes than that but ok
I’m here for Zane
Rob only went on 5 times.. so of course he has a lot of votes
Bhanu ... #EndOfStory
I don't think he got enough votes...
@@OnceUponAnIsland I know I know hehe. It was my initial response to the title of your video before watching the criteria specified.
Joe on this list doesn’t make sense to me?
I don't know how, it is all math.
i think bossy sassy amy is the messiest survivor
No Ghost Island Angela??
How many votes did she get against her? You need at least 22 to crack this list.
@@OnceUponAnIsland i wasnt really thinking about votes her game just really sucked😭
What does being a bad player have to do with getting more votes? People often vote for their best competition… If we go buy this rubric, Christin Hidicki is a worse player than Natalie Cole, for example. Makes no sense.
It's all subjective.
@@OnceUponAnIsland true , I guess I just don’t understand the concept of this video. I don’t understand how getting your name written down reflects poorly on you as a player . Maybe I missed something
Jeff Varner & Francesqwa
Messiet/worst meaning who got the most votes?
In wrestling, Andrea is what we call a jobber. It's her job to lose and someone else's job to win and get over with the jury. 🤣
no way, rob should not be in this list , he ruled the game in season 8 (his second time) , if he wasnt there no way amber would have made it this far , he braught her there (amber is conseidered not one of great winners) , so no wonder in season 20 he was big threat , and in season 22 of course he won (no matter how stupid were the contastants) so therfore , boston rob is one of the best contestants of all time
Laura isn’t one of the worst players , she’s an average player , i think Venus was worse then Laura
Tony Vlachos is on that list haha
I think the list has to be split into to. Because alone Phillip and Joe are two completely different beasts. Phillips gets voted because he is straight up annoying and people hate him. Not because he is a threat. He really is a bad and messy player. Joe on the other hand is a THREAT. And it does not matter how often he comes back people know it. They like him but they know, they have to send him home or he will clutch the win. He is not a bad player. Same for Laura and Boston Rob. If people know you are a threat from before. Bye bye.
I'm still curious as to why every single video ends in a bible verse???
Since mid 2021 I have included them since I want to do everything for God, even if it is a silly video about Survivor.
Call them messy all you want but a lot of these players aren't even bad players lmao
These are not messy, per se. Interesting info and video though.
Ya this video makes no sense at all.
What if you divide the votes against by the number of tribals
Check out the source I linked to and let me know. I am very curious.
Boston Rob is n will always be the BEST !❤
Phillip is a savage survivor player, obviously survivors edit made him look crazy. But phillip was a hard strategic player in survivor
Jelinsky has to be right up there on the losingest players of all time.
joe is beautiful 🥹
And racist
I likeed Phillip on his second season lol
🔥🔥🔥
Andrea wasn't bad
Notice how this list is full of amazing Challenge competitors, Rob, Laura, Joe Ozzy, and Andrea are likely all top 10 of all time.
How does somebody like Mary not make this list😂😂 the lady who had to be told to pick up the idol right in front of her and cries every day. I mean clearly she’s a worse player than wentworth the criteria of this list is a little stupid but still interesting
It's all subjective.
That was Kathy, not Mary.
I don't think messy is the right word. You could be playing really good that's why votes are coming your way and playing really good isn't messy at all.
It's all subjective.
I disagree some of them were 👍
I know the basis of determining the scale was # of votes against but I honestly dont think some of these players were the "messiest" of them all.......
It's all subjective, even using this criteria is subjective.
Messiest I definitely agree with, you want to avoid getting votes. However worst is a stretch since often good players get votes often. But I see where you're getting at with the premise. I consider Rob and Ozzy quite good, but yeah having played a bunch of times you're bound to rack up votes. At least Rob got 8 votes once to net a win.
It's all subjective.
Receiving votes doesn't make you messy? There are numerous reasons a person could receive votes.
It's all subjective.
This is a poor way to measure this. You should have included other factors like how often the player voted correctly (for the eliminated castaway at tribal) as well as challenge prowess.
Every way to measure is subjective. I would be interested in seeing your way in a video if you make it 😊
noted haha. @@OnceUponAnIsland
Boston Rob for me. If it takes you four times to win your a bad player in my eyes.
i kinda feel like every subsequent game actually makes it harder to win bc everyone is so wise to your game but idk
you look at it the wrong way , in season 8 he almost won (4-3 lost to his future wife) but everyone admit that amber was there in the first place thanks to rob great game
I hope when it comes a time when Cirie finally wins survivor, IF EVER, people are also going to be like “it took her five times to finally win” or “despite it being on her fifth try”… I love Cirie but the fact are the facts and if people are always constantly throwing it in Boston Rob’s face they should also throw it in her face. You couldn’t even make it through this video not pointing it out.. other than that, good video
I did make a video about Cirie on every show she has been on, check it out 😊
Yeah, I’m aware that you have made videos on Cirie. I’m saying that when (if) she finally wins Survivor on her fifth, sixth… try, would there be a constant throwing in her face that it took her all those times to win. Again, I love Cirie but I hope you would do so considering how you and many others likes to always point out the caveat of “it did take him four times to win though” type of rhetoric for Rob.
If anyone takes 4 times to win it will be mentioned. Not sure why Cirie specifically is being thrown under the bus here.
I’m mentioning Cirie particularly because (1) she is a universally beloved contestant; (2) she has expressed interest in playing again and (3) of the people who want to play again who also has the best shot at returning, it would’ve officially taken her more times to win the game than Rob. Again, Cirie is one of my all time favorite players, but fair is fair. If always upon mentioning Rob that his win deserves an asterisk because it was his fourth time playing, the same energy should be applied to someone like Cirie who (1) has never won and (2) even in victory, would’ve taken longer than Rob to accomplish such feats.
Again, if anyone takes 4 times to win it will be mentioned.