20-Shot C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Early in the production of the C96 Mauser, the company tried a variety of different configurations of the pistol, to see what would be popular and sell well. Most of these were abandoned by about 1902, when the design was more or less standardized to the version were are familiar with today. One of the early experiments was with a 20-round fixed magazine, or which 188 were made. This was fed using two 10-round stripper clips, and that seems to have been the biggest problem with it. According to some folks who have used these, the magazines is quite difficult to fully load, making the 10-shot version rather more practical.
www.forgottenwe...
Theme music by Dylan Benson - dbproductioncom...
I'll never get tired of the C96.
NEVER.
You're tired of it now
I know that I am not.
i need it
Perhaps, but your wallet will.
Qalandar Shah u German huh
Thatd be such a cool gun to reproduce and maybe a detachable mag in 9mm. It would sell. Han Solo
The Schnellfeuer version is essentially that, though in 7.63x25mm Mauser if I'm not mistaken, and also selective-fire.
+Jonathan Hughes
Yep, and they are fairly easy to get in the US thanks to Chinese copies…
There is a 9mm c96 called the red9 but I like the German c96 better it was built to last
@@alexkeffer8912 The Red 9 is German, built to make up shortages in Lugers. The name comes from the the red 9 painted and/or etched in so that no one loaded them with 7.63
I mean, they were made, OBI did a whole conversion thing, never seems to have done that well commercially.
I wish someone made a modernized version of these. Like with standard modern pistol aesthetics, a proper caliber like 10mm and a detachable mag, but still keep the mag in front.
+Cloverskull In a way they do. It's called the MP-5
What's the différence between M712 and C96 ?....
Always wanted one! ( in 9mm)
if only there were ghost gun Mauser broom handle pistols or gewehr 43 rifle
2825 ai 45 that is the model number of my gun.
i Guess Battlefield 1 will bring a lot of new C96 fans, and it deserves them, its a beautiful and excellent old pistol.
Plus, Bioshock Infinite was also have this gun.
fuck off nerd,
Bioshock Infinite has a golden C96
I have BB Gun Version of It
Yeah but the Wauser is better
Mauser Broomhandles - The old grandpa with a mean punch who'll never stop being "in style".
I mean, less than 9mm
@@Lowlandlord yes, it’s a 7.63 is a smaller diameter than a 9mm, but it has a much higher velocity than a typical 9mm bullet, which is pretty important since it has less drop-off and loss of velocity , and the German army expected 100m to be the minimum engagement distance a soldier would experience
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 seems pretty unlikely youd be hitting anything at 100m with a pistol in combat
@@warshipsatin8764 that’s why you’re supposed to use the shoulder stock, so that way you can have better accuracy at long ranges
I Patrol My Neighborhood During Hurricanes With A Red9(Wannabe/Fake) With A Stock.. Most People With Sense Evacuate... BUT.. Somebody Has to Watch Out For Looters.. Yeah.. That's Me. A Pissed Off Grand Pa, Running A BroomHandle Wearing Tiger Stipes, And Night Vision(Oil Field Was Good To Me) I Alsoo Carry A Glock With A Coupla Fun Sticks In Case 10 Rounds Just Aint Enough.. The BroomHandle Takes Care Of Most Problems(Gators Blown Up Outta Da Bayou, Pissed Off Raccoons...)
"You held it sideways, and used the muzzle jump to create a horizontal sweep. That was impressive"
"Bet you've never seen that technique in the West."
+Janky Jingles
Except that THIS one isn't a Chinese copy.
The MGS series made me a gun guy...The C96 is one of my dream guns thanks to that game.
Metal gear solid snake eater much?
Guns so elegant are a conspiracy by the Philosophers to get us to love the instruments of death.
Chicago, Stockton, LA, New York, Miami and many others beg to differ
The C96 is pretty much my favorite pistol family in the world, thanks for giving us such a detailed look at one of its less-usual variants.
Terrorists in 1960's and 70's movies are often depicted with the Broomhandle. I guess producers and prop wranglers thought the gun looked formidable.
Also, the signature pistol of Dr. Doom.
Pretty sure winston churchill owned one of these bad boys
@@nam6128 Also Lawrence of Arabia I believe. (Although maybe not the 20-shot version... maybe just the regular version.)
yea, terrorists liek that smuggling and insurectioning Han Solo.
I really love the C-96. It looks both ancient and futuristic at the same time. Really gives off that "ol' reliable" vibes.
this guy is so cool. love how he goes through everything from the operation, configuration, history and even miscellaneous facts about firearms
How common are the detachable mag versions of these? Relative to standard C96s.
easier and cheaper to find than a normal one, as they're parts kits for the m712 machine pistol and commonly turned into semi auto pistols, but still hard to find as they ARE c96s
Very common, considering the number of Chinese ones made and imported in the 80s. There have not been any commercial-scale reproductions of the 20-shot fixed magazine version.
Forgotten Weapons Thanks. Might get one of the Chinese clones and make an SBR to have a handy little carbine once I turn 21.
Shrewd _GC You don't need to register this as a Class 2 firearm. The ATF exempted this, the Hi-Power, and a few handguns that were designed originally designed to use a detachable stock. You just have to use an original stock.
Scott7891 Well hot damn. That saves me 200$ and a hell of alot of time
"Ahh... A choice of a avid gun collector. It's a nice gun, stranger."
Seriously, though, I'll definitely get one of these beauty if my country allowed it's citizen to own and collect guns(which they don't, and even so, it's very costly too)....
"Ahh.....yes..., now that's a weapon!"
not enough cash stranger........ hahaha dude fr tho yo this is a nice gun
Resident Evil 4 reference?😅
get a new country before you pick up anything else
20 rounds in a magazine about a full century before the XD-M. It's amazing the things that have been largely considered to be "recent" developments have been done before.
I know I'm not the only one who sees this, but in hindsight the 20-round C96 was a big missed opportunity. If the magazine was easy enough to swap out and the idea of firing the gun two-handed caught on, who knows.
I want this as my EDC, just so ppl are like "wtf is wrong with this guy"
Esa pistola fue un gran avance técnico para esa epoca
Always enjoy the videos! Not particularly a gun guy, but love the history.
So beautiful! Something missing in modern Glock garbage.
I remember when Sears was selling "broomhandle" Mausers for $125, much poorer shape of course. I was a kid with no money : ( Egyptian Hakim rifles also.
I've got a Red 9 Broomhandle and a Hakim. Love them both.
I could see this extended magazine being handy if you fancied shooting with the attachable stock.
Do all C96's have the ability to attach a stock?
I believe that every single one can use the detechable stock, except for the carbine version which already has an integrated stock.
Would be a great cavalry pistol. 20 shots without reloading beats any of the 6 shot revolvers or bolt actions of the day and certainly swords/sabers and would allow for suppressive fire in a charge. I think only the US embraced the pistol concept for cavalry around this time and up too ww2, the doctrine was to start firing within a few feet of the enemy.
Now if somebody would make a modern version of this with a molded synthetic pistol grip in 5.7x28, 30 rnd double stack detachable box mag, that would be cool.
Let's just say that IF i would have Mauser C-96 or is it called Mauser M1916 ( Ukko-mauser ) because it's 9mm x 19 and has that red nine on the handle, fully working, in really good condition with all the original parts, stock, leather wrap/belt and even the stripper clip what would it be worth these days?
Asking for a friend...
Any place that makes modern reproductions of this? All the C-96 broomhandles I find are $1,000 and up and i'd rather have a reproduction for pleasure shooting rather than use a 100 year old antique.
In Shingeki no Kyojin (SPOILER) the mangaka introduced the C96 as the marleyan official pistol. The Folk of the Walls (Paradise) adapted it to be used with the Antipersonnel ODM Gear, precisely this 20 magbox version, but with a second trigger under the main one, in order to use the ODM hooks (fired from a box attached below the grip and long magazine), it not just lets flying to the porter, but also works as a improvised secondary gun in case the pistol gets run off ammo. It's sick.
I knew it that someone gonna make this comment
I have a20 shot Astra ( a Mauser copy)1928
Uberti should pump these bad boys out again.
I find it interesting that Mauser didn't use a detachable magazine on these guns initially since their 06/08 pistols had detachable 20 rd mags.
Well a couple advantages to having a 20-shot mag would be, firstly, perhaps you find it more comfortable to hold onto the base of the mag sort of as a foregrip instead of having your hand up under the barrel. Might help lessen muzzle flip. Secondly, with the magazine being longer, I imagine those first 10 rounds loaded would be more easily done than on a typical 10-shot C96. The next 20 would undoubtedly be very difficult, but the first 10 I imagine would slide in like butter.
If only there was some kind of reinforced clip you could get; in vids I see of people reloading C96 pistols with clips, often times you see a round or two pop off due to the strain. If you could get a clip that could take more pressure and won't have rounds coming loose like that, then perhaps it wouldn't be such a pain in loading the 20-rnder. Sure it would still be very stiff, but you could be confident in that the rounds WILL go in if you just jam them down hard enough.
Just playing the Devil's advocate here, I can see some advantages, but yeah, the extra weight, especially out front, doesn't sound particularly pleasant. With a stock though, if you were to push the butt down into your lap, while holding the pistol by the magazine, the two points might offer enough rigidity to make loading that 2nd clip easier. Or, another option; just reload when there's 0-5 rounds left. When reloading from empty, just use one clip, fire a few shots, then shove another 10-rnd clip in when the mag is at half or less.
If the pistol is intended to be used as such; a pistol, then yeah, keep it at just 10. I wouldn't mind trying out that 20-rnder. Hell, who am I kidding, I'd like to try ANY C96! ESPECIALLY the Schnellfeuer! Detachable 20-rnd mags, plus select fire? Hell yeah!
Edit: If someone started producing modern Red 9 C96s, as long as they could keep the cost reasonable, I think it'd sell well! Though the US might have issues with the whole SBR thing. Attaching the holster as a stock would essentially make it illegal for anyone who didn't have the proper paperwork I think. In Canada though, a Restricted license would be all that's needed, and I've had one since I was 18 years old :P
Issue out 10 round and 5 round clips for a more reliable emergency reload, 10 then 5 or 5 quickly from the belt then 10 when clear, add a left side protrusion to the bolt to replicate bolt action loading when used as a carbine 👌
My C96 looks like crap compared to this one. Always draws a crowd at the range. Old guys say "wow a Broom handle Mauser". Young people ask; "Where did you get the Star Wars gun." Not the most comfortable gun to shoot but still lots of fun.
$37k, gosh! Cost more than my car when it was new even :)
I Finally Grew Up Financially, At Age 55 I Got My Childhood Dream Gun, A Red9(Wannabe/Fake) With Beautiful Wood Stock/Holster, A Bolo In 7.62x25 and A Carbine Kit.. The Red9 Doesnt Feed Perfectly.. My Stone Cold Reliable Modern Version Is a Glock In A Recover Folding Polymer Frame.. Detachable Mag PDW.. Paul Mauser Would Approve(I Think.. Or He Would Hate Plastic, Despite Its Functionally)
The C96 was used by Indian revolutionaries during the Indian independence movementIndian independence movement.
The story begins after Rodda Arms Heist took place in 1914 and refers to the theft of a huge consignment of pistols and cartridges from a Calcutta-based British arms retailer Rodda & Co. The arms and ammunition, stolen by Bengal’s revolutionaries and then distributed among their ranks to be used during the freedom struggle, was described by the British as the “event of the greatest importance in the development of revolutionary crime in Bengal”. The pistols from this stolen cache were used in events such as the famous ‘Kakori Train Conspiracy’ and even by revolutionaries like Bhagat Singh and Chandrashekhar Azad.
Bhagat singh s shikh later hanged
By the British Govt. ,And Azad got
Shoot himself when he exhausted
All his ammunition.
Chinese see this gun as American see peacemaker. There's no other gun more iconic than Mauser C96 in China. This gun won the world war II for China.
one of my favorite guns . i have 13 of them including the schnellfeuer in 9mm since around 1965 almost bought a c96 for $65 but bought the luger instead those where the days
funny how people called it a "broom-handle grip" because people never saw a vertical grip like that on a handgun before... and yet today, in California, they specifically label that type of vertical grip a "pistol grip" and list it as a feature that makes a weapon an "assault weapon"
I am no gun expert and I could be wrong but I think it is called a broom-handle grip because the grip looks like the wooden end of a broom. Just saying.
+XMG It makes me wonder what brooms looked like at the time.
First, thanks for the sparse information. I think it would have been nice had you mentioned things like the caliber, the availability of ammunition and the gun's going price.
But that's just me, someone who would like to be well informed.
Apart from the slight wear on the muzzle anf foresight ( probably from "holstering,") the blueing looks like new.
I was such a weird fuck.
This was my sidearm in airsoft during middle school.
Legitimately a single shot 20 round Mauser
Most things from thee 1800s are rusted hulks. Its amazing to see such an old, intricate piece that is in such good condition!
Molto bella ma ..... How many pistols of this type, in working order and unrestored, are left around today?
Many copies, by Astra of Spain, had this magazine configuration.
So, how cool would it be to see s fully automatic version?
th-cam.com/video/JqfpxqIK8VY/w-d-xo.html
This gun was in Star Wars or at least this was the basis of luke skywalkers and han solos blaster. Also the stormtropper blaster was based on the sterling sub machine gun. You may have already known, but I thought that was interesting.
did someone say star wars?
I have an unfired ww2 stg/44 not one mark on it in a glass display case my grandfather aquired it when he was in berlin it was still in it's unopened case and he brought it home after the war it has never been out of it's display case so the last time it was touched by human hands was 1946 it is one of a 100 in it's model and I was wondering how much you think it would be worth I'm never going to sell would just be nice to know what it's worth.
+DarkVoidDan Wow! dude... you can get 30K for one of those if its actually unused, maybe 40 grands on a decent auction.
Alejandro Medina
Yeah never had a live bullet in the chamber he aquired it from one of the storage bunkers in berlin.
HiroshiTakeda
I wish I live in Japan and we are not allowed such ammunition.
The Han Solo Blaster DL-44 ^^
luger made gun for elite, but common man's gun was made by samuel colt and john browning.
purchased the umarex m712 replica and I gotta say, too much fun.
Hey Ian(if you dont mind me calling you by your first name), why do you think no one has attempted to reproduce C96-type handguns?
They would be very expensive to make, and there are a lot of them already floating around.
I was always under the impression that these were somewhat cheap and easy to make, considering that i've seen people construct crude replicas in their garages wit hand files, and the ability of the Chinese and Khyber Pass copies of them.
I would have thought that with modern mechanized production methods, it would be relatively easy to turn these out.
swdfsdft Actually no, its the opposite. The C96 has a ton of small internal pieces that fit and work together like a watch. It would be extremely expensive to manufacture simply because of the amount of machining involved. I would bet that the cost of a newly made one would be on par to an original one!
Please show me a khyber pass or garage made version of this that actually works, I would be interested. Thanks.
sergeantbigmac I would consider "on par with original examples" to be relatively cheap... especially if they were made with modern materials and i could shoot it without feeling guilty or afraid i'm destroying an antique masterpiece.
People in the CAS community pay upwards of 600$ for even the lowest quality colt replicas, and in the 2k range for their rifles. Why wouldn't similarly-minded people pay in the 800-1k range for a Broomhandle in 9, or .45 acp, or something of the like?
a dl 44 in real life!
i want assembly of locking frame of M712 and also dessembly
Wishlist ❤
It's a niiiiiiice gun, stranger
a lot of Chinese variants used magazines instead of clips.
Germans gon use da extendo on the french ops???!!? 💀💀
Chal aage bhi to dikhao use aur Hindustan mein hai uska price do number
You load it like a rifle, sign me up
I definitely want one of these but I want a luger first
Deleting the cone hammer was a devolution.
C96 mauser but if it was long
One of the first things I do in Red Dead 2 is the outlaw mission that drops the Mauser pistol. Sure, a revolver will have more stopping power. But a bullet to the dome of an NPC doesn't really care which gun it's coming out of. The rate of fire, and 10 round capacity, really do cause me to never touch a revolver again. Pistols like the Mauser must have really blown everyone's minds back then. Given enough time, humans will figure anything out, for better or worse. Lol
Ahh, I kinda miss the old intro a bit. I think I recall it getting a bit repetitive back in the day and was glad to see it replaced, but it's nice to see again. Going to be really interesting to revisit TH-cam decades from now to see all this old content I used to enjoy... I hope my son ends up being big into firearms like myself, I imagine he will be. If my daughter ends up becoming a female gun TH-camr I'd be so proud of her, I dare say she'd have me on from time to time for a skit. I'd probably fulfill the stereotypical role of the over-protective gun-toting dad. Already envisioned a comical scene, I welcome feedback from any who read it.
So firstly my wife is Asian so she's probably going to appear a bit mixed, which I think would compound the cute factor. I imagine her being in her late teens or 20s. I'm in my study, at my computer, and she runs up to me in an animatedly effeminate/girly way even though I think she'll end up being a little bit of a tomboy, so y'know, it's an act. Then, building on the already excessive girliness, she cries "Daddy, daddy, someone said something mean about me on the internet!"
I reach underneath my desk, produce a pump-action shotgun, and rack the action as I stand up and look quite sternly down at her.
"What's his IP address."
I think it'd be pretty darn funny, but she ain't even conceived yet so if that event ever actually occurs, it won't be until like 2040 or later. I'm going to teach any and all of my children, however many they may be, how to safely handle firearms at a young age. My wife and I are open to perhaps even five kids depending on if we can financially afford that many and if we can handle the stresses of parentage.
I have a question everyone talks about the 7.63 Mauser and 9x19, yet no one mentions the 9mm Mauser a cartridge loaded in the US with performance like the .357 SIG
I haven't seen Mauser marks and serial number. Is it really Mauser?
Yes.
Cool! I'll trade you a Chinese SKS, Remington 870 12g and 3 bricks of .22 for that old gun!
Wouldn't another problem of the 20 round magazine be that the C96's bolt flies home when the follower is depressed?
Even if you don't even think about getting one of those or checking the auction site, I must tell you to take a minute of your time and check the provided link in the description. When Ian say _'high res pictures'_, he means it. Beautiful pictures, lots of them, lots of angles...
It's just a pretty weapon.
I have a c96 1930s commercial 10 round broomhandle. I have never seen or heard of one of these guns with a detachable magazine. Please provide information.
I'm looking for a gunsmith who works on Broomhandles. Not just the usual gunsmith, but rather a specialist. Any ideas?
Felt more like the original mini version of mp38/40 and was used that way by the Chinese army back then. Chinese flip the hand side ways to do the spray of bullet, hopefully somebody do a video on that.
Broomhandle Mauser C96
is very very nice and beautiful gun.
is it available in market ?
i want to buy.
Looks like Han Solos DL44 blaster.
Can you top off the magazine? Suppose you had a clip with a lip at the top. Could you pull the action back while applying pressure from this clip to prevent the round in the chamber from ejecting, then press as many rounds from the clip down as will feed before lifting it out of the way and bringing the action forward as you normally would?
How is it you do my favorite 9mm semi auto, of all time... and it's the one gun you don't completely dissect??? You're killin' me, boss..
Strange that they managed to make the full auto ones load from a magazine but the normal mauser and red 9 mauser load from the top :( if you could get a 9mm mauser that fires a 10 round magazine that would be the gun but can you? Or is that basically what the luger is there for ahah
What a beauty mate! , In Brazil whe have a lot of this used by Brazilian army 💪😁🇧🇷🇺🇸🍻
The first notable use was during Star Wars Episode IV by spice runner Han Solo
I always wanted one of these. I love guns with clips. I think a detachable mag ruins that gun.
I have been waiting for this , now I just have to see the pancor jackhammer and I'll be a happy man
Hii brother how much it price and what the procedure to buy it kindly any one who have any idea please inform me and help me
Can i buy a gun like this? Ive seen the magazine version, and the old version where you need to reload from top of the pistol
mr ian you are still master of your trade such a crisp and simple presentation of such a difficult engineering marvel.
Was there any attempt to make a 20 round stripper clip for these prior to the making of detachable magazines?
Imagine how long it would be. Imagine.
No. I suspect such a stripper clip would have too much friction to be practical.
Forgotten Weapons i figured as such but i would've figured with such troubles loading the thing they would've given it a try or implement a system that would make it easier to load all 20
Why not a compromise? I wonder if a 15 rd. clip would have been sufficiently low on resistance to load quickly and you'd have fewer reloads than with the 10 rd. strips.
Chandrasekhar Azad had this gun.
Being able to skip the first ten round reload sounds fairly valuable to me.
It seems a little like the semi automatic pistol in the game Metro Last Light
I was under the impression that the bolt hold open of this gun was the follower itself, and then the clip as you loaded. So when you pull out the first clip after you've emptied it into the magazine, wouldn't the bolt close?
Do you have to manually pull the bolt open to get the next clip in? Does that mean 'wasting' a round that was loaded from the first set of ten?
For an internal magazine like this, it doesn't seem practical.
Correct, or you can manually hold the bolt open while you load the second batch of rounds. There is a technique for pushing up on the hammer to hold the bolt open, but it's a bit tricky and definitely a pain in the butt.
It's a forgotten weapon for good reason. :)
Forgotten Weapons *Thanks for answering*
As you said in the video, the only practical way to use this is to load twenty pre-battle then during fighting just load from single 10 round clips, so that it essentially becomes a heavy 10 rounder.
I'd always prefer the detachable mag version for the obvious reasons.
Jajaja parece metralletita
When you say it would be hard to load, do you just mean that you'd have to load it twice, with 2 stripper clips? Or did you mean something to do with spring pressure in the mag? Confused about that.
Also, in the comments you said that "I suspect such a stripper clip would have too much friction to be practical." Really? Then how do AK 74 15 round clips work?
The spring pressure is a large part of it. When Ian is talking about "too much friction," he means that a full, 20rd stripper clip would be impractical because the resistance increases as you make have to push on more rounds. This is especially true with these early style stripper clips which tend to be snug. On the ten rounders this isn't a problem, you can grasp the weapon for leverage with the same hand that's pushing the rounds in. Unless you have the kind of paws that even a pro basketball player would envy, you won't be able to do that with 20rd clips. On the AK74, the stripper clips have a looser fit (they use a retainer tab to keep the rounds on when fully loaded), and it helps that rifles cartridges give you more to push on.
I came here from origins
It's the Spinal Tap pistol: this Mauser goes to eleven!
Han Solo's gun from Star Wars was based off of this one.
OMG the C96 is my favorite gun!!!!! :D
I have a nice flatside ..
didnt selective fire ones have detachable 20 shot mag
Give me that for my birthday plz
Are those pocket holes milled in to the body an after thought? I mean, you see the rest of the gun and it has no machine marks (apparent to the eye of the camera) whilst those pockets (and the recess up on top of the gun) have really obvious machine path marks.
Regardless an awesome weapon.
My guess is it was a forged frame, which gives a nicer surface finish, followed by milling of the reliefs, which is very dependant on tool sharpness, and machine set up to achieve a nice finish.