How I Learned to Relove the CPU Market

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  • The GPU market is in a sorry state. Scalping, overpriced cards, no supply. But let's take a trip back through time to when the CPU market was really boring, and how I learned to relove it again. And why. Yes, why. That's the important bit. And we've got something like that to look forward to in the GPU sector... sometime. Somewhere. Hopefully.
    0:00 - Current GPU market
    1:18 - From single to dual core CPUs
    4:43 - Current GPU market AGAIN
    5:41 - From quad to eight core
    7:46 - Conclusion and future
    Impact Prelude Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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  • @kizuati
    @kizuati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    5:38 I saw the upscale. Phillip couldn't resist.

    • @MaksKCS
      @MaksKCS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      almost every image in this video is upscaled lol

    • @WangleLine
      @WangleLine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hehehehe

    • @kizuati
      @kizuati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MaksKCS jokes on you, it's the video that was upscaled

    • @firkinflamer8604
      @firkinflamer8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaksKCS SoUrCe???!?!?? /?!! ++!!??!!??????

  • @frogdan
    @frogdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    Got a 1070 right before the prices went nuts. For all I know, this is the card I will have until I retire.

    • @toecurlersupreme
      @toecurlersupreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      i got an rx 5600xt when everybody was telling me to wait for rtx 30 series and rx 6000 series to launch
      as a wise man once said, "look who's laughing now"

    • @king_br0k
      @king_br0k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I also got a 1070 when things started going down, all I need given I am using 1080p

    • @miweneia
      @miweneia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      My 970 died at the beginning of this year, a guy hooked me up with a used 1080ti for 620usd; felt like I got scammed by life, considering the 3060ti was supposed to be a 400 dollar card and I was planning on upgrading this year... But look what happened now - 1660 cards go for 100 bucks higher than what I got this 1080ti for.

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same but then 2 years ago I saw a PC from a retailer for 1200$ with specs better than that price combined if I were to build it myself.

    • @BettersonMcgee
      @BettersonMcgee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahahaha you and me both buddy

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    "You could buy a previous generation card"
    2021:I'll take 200 for a gt 710, pay up

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Currently on a performance equivalent of a GT 710 - the GeForce 9600GT.

    • @SoloCinder
      @SoloCinder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wanna buy my EVGA 2070 cc ultra I just got my new pc

    • @Shpoovy
      @Shpoovy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i saw a gt 210 selling for £60
      bought a gt 1030 for about 75 a few months ago

    • @Yobleck
      @Yobleck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Shpoovy current price on newegg for that card varies from 130-180 usd. Yikes!

    • @excitableboy7031
      @excitableboy7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What? Who pays 200 for a GT 710?

  • @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth
    @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    It is insane that graphics cards released 10 years ago are more than their MSRP on eBay.

    • @tonizombie
      @tonizombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kinda the same as old comic books or something

    • @PaintsAreOp
      @PaintsAreOp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have a GTX 480 from 2010, it was 499€ at release. I don't think I can get more than 20€ on eBay...

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      2016 wasn't 10 years ago (people are only buying AMD GCN4+ and Nvidia Pascal+ at inflated prices)

    • @philip_bray
      @philip_bray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      10 years is a stretch.

    • @FlourescentPotato
      @FlourescentPotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      3 or 4 years, more like

  • @Bsodman
    @Bsodman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I'm not kidding, I can sell my 270X that I bought 5 years ago for a profit.
    This is sad, I used to love trading used gpus, try out old stuff. But this just ruins it all.

    • @aarriikknn33ll
      @aarriikknn33ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      exactly, i sold my 290 for 320 euros a month ago! I bought it for 180 euros 3 years ago!

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wonder how much I can sell my 9600GT for...

    • @aarriikknn33ll
      @aarriikknn33ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mix3k818 i sold mine for 25 euros a while ago xd

    • @charmingpeasant9834
      @charmingpeasant9834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm contemplating whether to sell my GTX 1050 Ti for a profit, which i bought for 120 € back in 2017,
      and go back to my old GTX 650 till things calm down.

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aarriikknn33ll Well, the 9600GT is in such a state that its value is generally rising.
      That being said, I might be better off selling it now, since I have an APU anyway (though it's even slower)

  • @hospsa6933
    @hospsa6933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    When the day comes and the prices become normal and the scalpers stop making money so they stop I'm going to build the best pc i can

    • @smitias_8474
      @smitias_8474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That mentality though is what will postpone normal prices. As soon as prices will get more or less close to normal people start buying up. So the prices will struggle to actually land again. Very annoying feature of the world around us and there is nothing we can do...

    • @windblownleaf6450
      @windblownleaf6450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're going to be waiting a while in that case.

    • @hospsa6933
      @hospsa6933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@windblownleaf6450 I wouldnt be surprised if I waited another year

    • @ostapkurtash6359
      @ostapkurtash6359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just travel my friend. Tech will always let you down. What won't let you down is a nice week holiday in a tropical paradise.

    • @ostapkurtash6359
      @ostapkurtash6359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These sons of mothers don't deserve our money. The shameful way they treated us and their response to the global situation is beyond disrespectful. Private deals, tons of cards being sold without even hitting the market, refusing to address scalper issues and artificially limiting hashrate when the consumer buys the card for 3x the price? Who are they making fun of... That being said, if you can profit or need it for educational purposes go for it but to who you are giving your money to. (I am sorry for taking it of my chest)

  • @skysub1
    @skysub1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Hey Phillip.
    Your video on the headonic treadmill was great! It has made me think a lot of the things i do and why i feel demotivated when it comes to certain activities.
    Thank you.
    - A long time viewer

    • @dimaryk11
      @dimaryk11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, man

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    We shall never let Intel live down their petty "glue" comment.

    • @arielfernandez8196
      @arielfernandez8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry to ask, but what glue comment are you talking about?

    • @BRUXXUS
      @BRUXXUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@arielfernandez8196 When AMD announced Ryzen and what made the architecture unique and powerful, a leaked Intel powerpoint presentation bragged about how their chips weren't a bunch of cores just "glued" together like AMDs.

    • @ayroncajuday6629
      @ayroncajuday6629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BRUXXUS that's so fcking petty of them

    • @dondraper4438
      @dondraper4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ayroncajuday6629 It was some truly good times. AMD fan boys talking about many cores and Intel fan boys would refer to bulldozer. Original Zen's launch is by far one of my favourite moments in recent tech history.

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glue is literally a technical term for circuitry connecting two separate chips.
      Google "glue logic" and then look at the Infinity Fabric and I/O die and then get back to us.
      Ryzen is *literally* glued together. It's not an insult.

  • @nhansgoofyvideos7581
    @nhansgoofyvideos7581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It felt surreal when I realized my aging R9 380X is appreciating.

    • @nhansgoofyvideos7581
      @nhansgoofyvideos7581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Félix Sánchez Unfortunately, Nvidia is overpriced here. It does not help that people here also undervalue AMD cards.

  • @lennyface6828
    @lennyface6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    At this point, my 600$ gaming PC's worth is probably in the low thousands. Thanks scalpers?

    • @JukoYT
      @JukoYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My gtx 1060 i bought 3 years ago is literaly worth more than back when i bought it lol

    • @havefun123for
      @havefun123for 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a $250 profit on my refurb 2070 E-GPU

    • @WorkinDuck
      @WorkinDuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JukoYT My 6 year old GTX960 2GB is worth 300€ lol bought it for 200€ back then

    • @softcake9548
      @softcake9548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WorkinDuck its not... i bought a used 960 4gb for 120€ on ebay direct buy no bidding 2 weeks ago. and in general they go for 120/130-160. Just cause some idiots are putting them up for 300 bucks doesnt mean someone will buy it. A couple of weeks prior to the 960 buy i was bidding on a r7 370 2gb and got it for 41 bucks. You can get these type of old cards that can still run some games in 1080p especially esport titlles or something like gtav or whatever for at least a somewhat reasonable price.
      300 bucks is what the 1060 6gb goes for right now and thats bad enough.

    • @norbertsoltesz1012
      @norbertsoltesz1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 1660 almost worth 3 times as much

  • @quackduckface
    @quackduckface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "hope youre old graphics card doesnt die on you"
    this made me cry as my 980ti died on me and im now stuck with whatever else i had, so.. a hd4850.

    • @Breadmanngo
      @Breadmanngo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 570 just died :‘( so yeah I guess I’m not gaming for a while

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Breadmanngo I managed to grab a 970 but it just ain't the same...

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Breadmanngo i actually have a hd6970 that i dont need... maybe i can help you?

    • @Breadmanngo
      @Breadmanngo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quackduckface I’m going to a boarding school in 2 months anyway so it doesn’t really matter but thanks ^^

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Breadmanngowell okay then, good luck!

  • @nobody-tj1mv
    @nobody-tj1mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I was so happy when the Nvidia RTX 3080 was announced. I finally had a good enough reason to upgrade! I could finally see those games Phillip showed, and play new games on Ultra settings! But I just had to wait a couple of months for the prices to drop a little so I could by one. I just had to wait…

    • @BMXR0
      @BMXR0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same for me but with RTX 3060ti. I ordered one in december. Still waiting for delivery

    • @rzul
      @rzul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      just a few more months bro

  • @bambostic
    @bambostic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve been really demotivated this last year, and your hedonic treadmill video hit me quite hard, as I’ve realized how much of my day is doing neither work nor play: JUST procrastination, browsing Twitter or other places that I don’t quite enjoy but take up time nonetheless. I hope to break this cycle soon, and I think your video will be present in my mind until I do. Hope you’re doing well Phil!

  • @musamba101
    @musamba101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That is why I have taken an interest in mini PCs and APU's since 2020. The Ryzen APU's can get you by with most tasks and games at low to mid range settings.

    • @L3v3LLIP
      @L3v3LLIP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am interested in the upcoming ones, if zen3 gets paired with a RX6600 that would be amazing.

    • @Ajee02
      @Ajee02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm slowly inching away from my APU, its great but when you really start needin the power the cpu just doesn't deliver
      not that I have a good one, just a 3200g

    • @L3v3LLIP
      @L3v3LLIP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ajee02 Is that a heat problem, or do they differ from normal CPU dies?

    • @musamba101
      @musamba101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ajee02 I'm going for a 4650G to see ho it goes. If I need heavy lifting, I have a gaming laptop and desktop to cut the slack.

  • @hugopfeffer4175
    @hugopfeffer4175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That "if that ever happens" at the end broke me.

  • @ivanivanovsky2116
    @ivanivanovsky2116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    GPU market is just sad rn. I just saved up money by march and tried to buy a decent pc. Bought all the components(without a gpu)
    So currently im watching this video on my brand new pc with ryzen 5600x and GT710(I bought this for 50$)

    • @possamei
      @possamei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This card is a crime against humanity. Even moreso at $50.

    • @edga7490
      @edga7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      GT710 for 50$ ? You got robbed, even my 12 years old GTS250 will be more powerful.

    • @bobpro583
      @bobpro583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edga7490 At least its not Intel graphics, or the UHD one. Xe on the other hand...

    • @edga7490
      @edga7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bobpro583 UHD performs better probably xd

    • @bobpro583
      @bobpro583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edga7490 it’s the same as gt 710 but with no features. At least with 710 you get nvidia features
      Source: had hd and UHD graphics

  • @HaliOnRepeat
    @HaliOnRepeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was able to sell my 750 Ti for $120. It hasn’t even seen the light of day in years.

    • @TuskForce
      @TuskForce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      never thought this card would be that hot again. this crisis is insane

    • @REXOZero
      @REXOZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What?! I bought an old PC with a 750 Ti in it for $140 back in 2016 or so lol.

    • @Se7enRemain
      @Se7enRemain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought a new 750ti for $80 in 2014. It was my first graphics card ever. Good times

  • @chaohord
    @chaohord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this really is a great way to reframe the situation, just imagine the possibilities. ty for the much needed optimism

  • @h2oaddict28
    @h2oaddict28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ryzen was the most exciting cpu series since nehalem!

    • @dondraper4438
      @dondraper4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed and hopefully Intel's Xe moment follows in the same foot steps.

  • @aerolus
    @aerolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just do what I've been failing at for the last 6 months: sign up for the newegg shuffle then nervously check your email for the next 8 hours before "You were not selected" and I cant say by experience but I bet getting in is so great

  • @honkman5542
    @honkman5542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm always wanting more videos from you and you're always providing, love you philip

  • @ostadpapa
    @ostadpapa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for shining some hope into this dire situation

  • @burger406
    @burger406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    hi philip, this is great!
    -burger40

    • @aitsu_nojayjay
      @aitsu_nojayjay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      hi jake, this is great!
      -chadwick

    • @noone-tk8yq
      @noone-tk8yq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hi Jake Pittman, this is great!
      -I'm no one

    • @acombo
      @acombo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@noone-tk8yq Hi no one, this is great!
      -AggressiveCombo

    • @harperkdavis
      @harperkdavis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi Aggressive Combo, this is great!
      -KwippShire

    • @hossermes
      @hossermes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi KwippShire, this is great!
      -Hosermes

  • @johnfenn8514
    @johnfenn8514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your hardware themed videos ,keep it up :)

  • @user-qc6pg6ef6h
    @user-qc6pg6ef6h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That UserBenchmark jab was mwah - bellissimo!

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I used to be a huge Intel fan. Now I am planning to buy a Ryzen chip. Good to see the market evolve.

    • @devindykstra
      @devindykstra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I used to be an AMD fan, but now I'm rooting for Intel to catch up. It's a strange time for the CPU market.

    • @taiiat0
      @taiiat0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@devindykstra
      careful, don't let the mainstream Media fill you full of too much crud.

    • @devindykstra
      @devindykstra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@taiiat0 oah yeah I'm still level headed. I love my R5 1600 and will continue buying AMD for as long as they have the better product. I'm just worried if AMD gets *too* far ahead like intel during the Bulldozer era.

    • @taiiat0
      @taiiat0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@devindykstra
      if you think a Ryzen 1600 is beating something Intel has to offer, i think you're exactly being a blind fanboy.
      Ryzen 5000 can come close to Intel finally. but mainstream Media doesn't know how to use Computers so they spew bad data all day. makes my job harder when they do.

    • @desmond3245
      @desmond3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@devindykstra the most disgusting part is how everybody is okay with zen 3's increased performance and increased prices. That sounds just like the 20-series RTX gpus compared to 10-series, except that the perf/dollar is even worse! $200 for a 3600 and a 50% price jump we now get the 5600x. But where the heck is the 50% perf boost?

  • @CreeperleUwe
    @CreeperleUwe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man im so glad i built a new PC at the start of the lockdowns 2020 with a 2070 super. that card is gold worth now. Awesome video as always!

  • @ForAnAngel
    @ForAnAngel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job! You've made me excited about getting excited!

  • @PhilipLL
    @PhilipLL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last 2 videos (this one plus 1klikk) have been great. Great job man. :D

  • @DarkGharren
    @DarkGharren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    5:20 making good use of that AI upscaling, I see.

  • @elvisnikulin8674
    @elvisnikulin8674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought the parts for my PC this November assembled it 2 months ago and yet I still don't have a GPU. literally the reason why I bought an Intel processor was to have integrated graphics

  • @SupremeHumanBeing
    @SupremeHumanBeing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how I found your channel, but I'm very happy that I did.

  • @wifightit
    @wifightit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very relatable take! Great video.

  • @joeykeilholz925
    @joeykeilholz925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is why I had such a bad taste in my mouth when Zen 3 pricing was hiked massively.

  • @joeonyt196
    @joeonyt196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't hold on to a graphics card when I don't have one

  • @WangleLine
    @WangleLine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't stop thinking about the thumbnail for this video. It's so good lmao

  • @doculab3d
    @doculab3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like a 30+ minute video like this. You're describing my journey and a lot of others, I assume.

  • @erlendstaavi1151
    @erlendstaavi1151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    got really lucky, and snagged a 6800xt in january. i could now sell it for nearly twice the price, and sold my 4 year old 1070 for almost the same prce as i paid for it. insanity.

  • @ziizoraka4985
    @ziizoraka4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    metro exidus enhanced is the first game that got me believing RT is closer than a few more generations away

  • @waititstuesdaygod
    @waititstuesdaygod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed that since I out on notifs for you that's you appeared in my recommendation on the same day

  • @blazbohinc4964
    @blazbohinc4964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm one of the lucky ones that got the RTX 3070 for $680 in the first batch of cards. After that, they've been either unavailable or $1800+
    I feel so proud to have predicted the supply shortages

    • @dimaryk11
      @dimaryk11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a legend

  • @Yugdax
    @Yugdax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’ve just give up hope at this point. Hopefully my 1080 will keep on chugging a little longer.

    • @possamei
      @possamei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      bruh my 1060 is still flying all these years

    • @hohladych
      @hohladych 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I stream and edit on 1050ti, If only i had your problems...

    • @f1r3hunt3rz5
      @f1r3hunt3rz5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hohladych Same bruh, and the computer repair shop I went to even said that mine was underperforming, but it held on for 4 years and still do today

  • @karliskorlass196
    @karliskorlass196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I sold my Vega 56 for 700 and got an RX 570 for 160. Best decision of my life.

    • @randomcatdude
      @randomcatdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ayy, that's the same GPU I have!

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you lost ... over 50% of the performance and made 540$. Eh?

  • @KelBShobra
    @KelBShobra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, needed this

  • @George14218
    @George14218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love these videos

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    phillip is going ham with the upscaling lol

  • @n0rbert79
    @n0rbert79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is also worth mentioning, that the security flaws in Intel CPUs, parts, which were responsible for many speed improvement had to be disabled causing existing processor working on a slower speed, but AMD were not affected by those issues. That also caused Intel CPUs become less favourable as these changes had to be implemented while on BIOS/UEFI level and disabling certain features. Actually these changes were less to be seen in the news, but sure made me think twice before I wanted to buy a new CPU for my current motherboard. So I decided not to and kept collecting my money.

  • @LordZordid
    @LordZordid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently exchanged my 2600K with a 5600X. It served me well for many years and I never saw a reason to upgrade before now. On a sidenote, i've worked in IT for 25 years and most in my profession seems as pragmatic as me.

  • @NightpireVideos
    @NightpireVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when Doom3 came out around the same time as Athlon64 CPUs to run it. That felt like we reached the peak of technology in the early 2000s.

  • @boumex8842
    @boumex8842 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad that I got into the game recently when ADM released the first ryzen CPUs.
    Still bought i5-9600k. For gaming ofc

  • @Yocairo
    @Yocairo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was pleasantly surprised last year when I ordered a Ryzen 5 3600 for my server. Great CPU.

  • @haxmixon801
    @haxmixon801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That spider at the beginning made me uncomfortable when it was falling and its legs spread out

  • @Cykaa226
    @Cykaa226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to own one of these bad boys up untill few years ago. FX-8300 to be exact. Id get free heating while playing games and free frustration from bad performance. Now rocking a ryzen 5 2600x, couldnt be more happy with the upgrade.

  • @fustilarian1
    @fustilarian1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In hindsight I'm glad I decided to buy and build a PC in mid 2020, I remember there was a brief period when Ampere was announced and second hand 2080Tis were going for cheap, it wasn't even that long ago, those sellers got doubly screwed. At that time I felt a bit dumb because I only just bought a 2070 Super a few months ago. I'm sure the GPU market will recover, these things can change surprisingly fast.

  • @eldenringer6466
    @eldenringer6466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Exactly how I feel in some ways. But I worry the market won't change back and world issues will be blamed for not dropping prices and no one will undercut prices becasue they no lo her need to. I also see a false scarcity issue being a problem. And I worry that even if it all goes back to normal...there are now enough super rich people due to the vile unbalance in wealth...that all the possible cards will be bought by them. Or worse by the criminal / scalper market ensuring they keep their monopoly for ever more. I don't think the people who should care about their loyal customers care any more about any thing but making all the money :(

  • @vicvance1387
    @vicvance1387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I managed to get a 3080ti at MSRP. I had originally given up on getting a 3000-series card, but when I was buying some new ram the website just happened to have gotten them that day.

  • @dondraper4438
    @dondraper4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMD's Zen moment is how i feel about Intel's entry in the dGPU market with Xe. People are really under estimating Raja and his team.

  • @justjoeblow420
    @justjoeblow420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been tuning out hardware reviews for some of the same reasons while the CPU market has mostly recovered from shortages I'm not even considering a new CPU being on a Ryzen 3600 but GPU's are where it hurts the most for me as I'm running a 5700XT and have a 4K monitor and while it meets my needs right now I know this card's useful life for 4K is going to be limited to only holding me over for a generation or two at best if I want to keep settings turned up like I have been in most my titles.

  • @JoshFlynn101
    @JoshFlynn101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my 980ti just had to kick the bucket right after ampere launched😭

    • @calvitocalvon1711
      @calvitocalvon1711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      F

    • @sakawi
      @sakawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My GTX 970 died earlier this year. Luckily my friend sold me his old 1650 Super for cheap, so I have basically have the same performance as I did with the 970. I was planning on upgrading last year but held off for the new generation... Big mistake

  • @michawhite7613
    @michawhite7613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the UBM roasting

  • @white_mage
    @white_mage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:06 more than a decade ago, i was told sapphire cards are the best because they tend to fail less often than other brands. i couldn't confirm that yet, but so far has been true. i've used an overclocked radeon 5670 for 11 years until i finally decided it was a good moment to sell it. i remember finishing doom 2016 twice on that card at a miserable 20fps on 360p.
    also related to the subject. a friend of mine had also a sapphire radeon but it was a 5770. he still uses it to play older games. a few years ago he thought the vapor chamber (its a 5770 vapor-x. comes with a small vapor chamber under the heatsink that looks suspiciously similar to intels stock heatsinks ones) had dried and the water evaporated somehow because it was running even hotter after cleaning it and replacing the thermal paste. it happened to be some corosion on the copper plate of the chamber and not enough torque on the heatsink.

  • @bobbynooby
    @bobbynooby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbnail game on point 😂

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I hope the comeback happens.

  • @fica1137
    @fica1137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fortunetly prebuilts are priced fairly, at least in my country

    • @BlueRockEye
      @BlueRockEye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2021 is pretty much the year of prebuilts, they are in most places the best way to get a good pc with a good gpu

  • @RealGoOhm
    @RealGoOhm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I only joined at Bulldozer but was stung when I picked up an FX 4350. Tbh it did me well enough but it was day and night moving to an i5 8300h laptop which could blow that CPU out of the water and for only 45w vs the 4350's 125w! I did only pay around £65 for the FX cpu tbf. I was very lucky to pick up a RTX 3070 which at the time I thought I was paying far too much for but for the first time in my life I could afford to splash out a bit on my PC so I did it. £770, the same cost as the entirety of my gaming laptop I had before which had that i5, 8GB (upgraded to 16) of RAM and a GTX 1050ti notebook (plenty of cooling to, no doubt it was slightly slower than a desktop variant but not by much at all). I did get the Aorus Master 3070 from Gigabyte which was one of the more expensive 3rd party models and it was more than if I had got hold of one somewhere else but I paid a localish computer company just over the odds at the time for the product which is now £840 retail at Currys (a Botters wet dream I bloody hate Currys haha) and on Ebay they are selling for between £1100 and £1300 or so although I heard someone paid £1400 for a Suprim from MSI I believe. The market is insane the only positive is the money for very little work that is available as if you manage to pick up a card you can sell it on for a lot more but Ive deliberately held off. You can also mine which I did for around a week, made just over £50 and stopped lol (so really I paid £720 as that £50 I made was net thee gross was more but I paid a months worth of electric as well, just over £30 with the card running at less than 140w rather than its default 220w). Safe to say Ive been hooked on seeing what the markets are doing and getting great ideas to make a bit of quick cash but at the same time its starting to drag and I just wish prices would go back to normal so I could get my partner a new machine too rather than her having to use that gaming lappy I had for a couple years before her. Heres to hoping things calm down soon but we also need to talk about how to solve these shortages as we know they wont stop now and its only going to get worse and worse the more and more people gain access to technology and the funds to purchase it. We cant exactly tell these countries to get their own chips as we are getting them abroad in the first place XD (also a lot of these developing nations are HUGE in comparison to the UK or even the US).

  • @AdityaTripathi
    @AdityaTripathi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought my 1060 like 4 years ago and I'm totally happy with it. I can play any games at 120+ FPS at Medium to High settings, and now even if AMD's FSR isn't that great, it'll let me enjoy them at even higher quality. Not buying a GPU until the market stabilizes.

  • @fuhrerhosty
    @fuhrerhosty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully I'll watch this video a couple years later with a 3080 or a 4080 that will finally relace my 1080Ti which is slowly starting to run out of breath in UWQHD resolution. Thanks for the cool video Philip.

  • @SHUTENSEPC
    @SHUTENSEPC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And it is happening right now.

  • @ajon9354
    @ajon9354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:35 Are those reflections done with ray tracing? They look awful. Is it fault of yt compression or did they really looked that bad?

  • @D3nn1s
    @D3nn1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wait was the bulldozer sweeping i7's their actual logo? Haha

    • @Saymon10
      @Saymon10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just in case, no. XD

  • @Cheesefist
    @Cheesefist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, with the market in the shape it’s in currently, I’m just going to get a prebuilt cpu

    • @Sxm101
      @Sxm101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      pre built cpu? Bruh

    • @Cheesefist
      @Cheesefist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sxm101 spend thousands of dollars on one part < have a company sell you one with all the parts installed

    • @Sxm101
      @Sxm101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cheesefist That's called Prebuilt "setup". Cpu is a singular part like GPU.

    • @Cheesefist
      @Cheesefist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sxm101 someone is feeling snobby and elitist today, aren’t you little guy?

    • @joperamod5760
      @joperamod5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cheesefist what?

  • @beezito
    @beezito 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said man :)

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wasnt interested in upgrading for like 2 years since i was satisfied with my 980ti
    when i looked at cards recently out of sheer curiosity i was shocked at really how little there is, now im looking at my card anxiously hoping it will survive at least until this is over
    i mean really what are u gonna do if something fails in ur pc atm

  • @darkerm76
    @darkerm76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one that think he has great way to make video more interesting and I love it.
    Also me: is this guy crazy? He just get half naked every opportunities he gets 😂

  • @BritishRifleman
    @BritishRifleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryzen was good but it wasn't until 3rd gen that it was actually competitive for gaming, I'm not an intel fanboy but if you look at FPS benchmarks for a 4 core intel and a 8 core amd of Ryzen 1st and 2nd gen, intel wins in the vast majority of games, although I'm happy that and has caught up with their 5th gen products beating intel in the current price categories they're in, just hope they release a 5500x as I don't need the threads or I might just get a 5300x as upgrading little and often is best as all the CPUs are on the same architecture so theoretically they can overclock to similar levels although higher end silicon is of course slightly better, anyway, thanks for the video Phil, I love the channel and I'm glad you are uploading on a regular but not too regular basis, 40 mins of videos a week is good for me maximum ;)

  • @JimmyTheFish3
    @JimmyTheFish3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought a sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT in January for £850, felt like i over paid a bit, but then when i went to sell my Vega 64 a few week later, i managed to sell it for £550 on Ebay because mining had started to take off again, so my 6800XT basically only cost me £300, and now having seen the 6700XT retailing for £900+, i'm so happy i pulled the trigger when i did

  • @Radicaldude
    @Radicaldude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got an RX570 8gb for $250 brand new from amazon at the start of december and then 2 weeks later they went completely out of stock sometimes selling for $800+. I really hope it doesnt fail on me or else i'll have to go back to my old HD6450

  • @beszmi
    @beszmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:24 sneaked in upscale

  • @michaelmu6765
    @michaelmu6765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    (post this during a Cryto fall)
    Ah yes

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crypto fall means it's more profitable to mine.

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Turnip_ Do you have any idea how mining or blockchain works?

    • @michaelmu6765
      @michaelmu6765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zed7038 Yes and no imo. From what I understand, when there's abnormal activity on a blockchain, like people moving their Cryto to sell, miners gets higher profits. However, if it calms down, or if the value of the Cryto keeps on falling, the profits could be lower overall(unless it rebounds, that's a lot of profit).
      I do hope, however, wish that people can actually get the new GPUs.

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelmu6765 Mining is more profitable at the moment due to the increase in transactions and Ethereum having higher gas fees.
      As for GPUs, everyone will have to wait a year or so to get one but production volumes will also go up because GPU producers are making more revenue and cryptocurrencies are slowly moving towards proof of stake systems (no GPU mining) so in a couple of years GPU mining will be obsolete, which means GPUs will be really cheap. It is a long wait but I think it's more than worth it.

  • @yeetleslaw8529
    @yeetleslaw8529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idea of getting a 3000 series for retail price feels like fantasy. Buying VR is cheaper than getting a 4 year old card.

  • @BlueFreak727
    @BlueFreak727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok that gave me some hope...

  • @myztklk3v
    @myztklk3v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when you could get P4 boards with 2 cpu slots on them...

  • @robbutterill1426
    @robbutterill1426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it still hurts a little knowing how good the 2nd hand parts market was a few years ago (2017/18) when Ryzen gen 2 was released. Now everything is out of reach to many and it sucks. hope we come out of this soon

  • @Ferdam
    @Ferdam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is crazy to think that in Jan 2021 I managed to get 2 3070 just a few weeks before GPU prices skyrocketed enough to make a single 3070 match the value I paid for those 2 in Jan this year

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whatever opinion you have on Intel, AMD or NVidia, its always healthy for the market to have competition - if there is only one company producing certain thing, they dont have to worry about actually improving their product, or making the pricing fair/reasonable, since the customer has nowhere to go for another decent product.
    That happened in the CPU market, when AMD left it for a few years - Intel got lazy, did barely any improvements, increased pricing etc. When AMD made their new CPU, Intel had to actually start trying again.
    That't why monopoly is such a bad thing, certain big brands also just try to literally purchase their competition to avoid having to spend resources improving their products, which could be more expensive than outright purchasing the competition.

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prebuilt PC setups: *It's my time to shine*

  • @dylon4906
    @dylon4906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    managed to grab an rx 6800 for a reasonable price around launch time (micro center!), feels like I'm one of the few lucky people who struck gold in the gold rush

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my $10 router board has 2GB DDR3, this puts things in perspective

  • @catfree
    @catfree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Again with Mr. Dyer seducing us with his sexy arms

  • @VADemon
    @VADemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:35 I could still play Left4Dead 2

  • @MrBerndderboss
    @MrBerndderboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when i got my 700€ Core2Duo PC for christmas back then. My first actually kinda decent PC.

  • @Saidriak
    @Saidriak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Me sitting here with my tiny 1050ti trying to run half life alyx

    • @n0rbert79
      @n0rbert79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here...

    • @victortitov1740
      @victortitov1740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and me with my laptop on mx250 trying to play serious sam in VR

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My GTX 1060 can , you might be cpu or ram bottlenecked ? I know I was before and now it works well for me

    • @Saidriak
      @Saidriak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cooliofoolio nope, those should be decent enough to do it.

    • @mvtte3664
      @mvtte3664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      were are in the same place , mine does like 20% bottle neck whit my ryzen 5 2600

  • @MrTHEMIS10000
    @MrTHEMIS10000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky to get a 1660 super before the chaos. Now they are almost twice as expensive.

  • @davidturzak3996
    @davidturzak3996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a 2070 a little before the chip shortage, will not be selling for a while

  • @Sinbad1999
    @Sinbad1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another place you can go to buy GPUs or even the next generation consoles (at scalper prices but without being scammed) is CEX

  • @CWorm
    @CWorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMD Bulldozer was one that scorched my entire motherboard when it tried running multithreading, lol

  • @cool.guy.
    @cool.guy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm still using my ol' FX-6300, though I've overclocked it to 4.5gHz,
    If processors were more affordable in my country, I would've thrown it away a long time ago,
    Fortunately, I've managed to snag a RX580 a few years ago for only 100 euros,
    The pairing between the FX and the RX is incredibly imbalanced, It's kind of cute in a way, but it works :)

    • @fapman4878
      @fapman4878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FX-6300 squad roll out! Currently playing through Red Dead Redemption 2 with it. The most impressive game I've ever played on the weakest CPU ever made. Just that fact alone made this CPU totally worth it. I think when I bought it in 2012, even an i3 was still double the price here. It's a lot like the game - red, (almost) dead, and it redeemed itself at the end. Long live bulldozer!

    • @CMSonYT
      @CMSonYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The fx cpus can still compete with ps4 or even ps4 pro no problem. Just realize it's more a 30 fps cpu rather than sixty

    • @cool.guy.
      @cool.guy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fapman4878 Red dead redemption 2, woaw that's impressive
      My biggest accomplishment is running total war Warhammer 2 on mine

    • @CMSonYT
      @CMSonYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cool.guy. how fast or slow did it run?
      There are videos of rdr2 running on athlons by the way

    • @fapman4878
      @fapman4878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CMSonYT Yeah I've played every console port with 30-40 fps. I don't really need 60 for them. The games which I need 60 for run at 60 (PC esports & fps). Paired with a 1050ti it's literally just a console.

  • @guisampaio2008
    @guisampaio2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never had the option to buy stuff so i am just here for bigger numbers.

  • @theseus0767
    @theseus0767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Phil. Just wondering why you put a lens flare effect in almost all of your thumbnails?

    • @VADemon
      @VADemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      for the memes.
      he also actually AI upscaled the zoom in on the red "cost" from the Radeon Polaris slide

  • @juljul3107
    @juljul3107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought my 3070 for only 50 dollars more at the beginning, waited 2 months for it to arrive, but it works well!

    • @Pepino8A
      @Pepino8A 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How

    • @stickernoodle6197
      @stickernoodle6197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pepino8A i feel like he meant 500

    • @juljul3107
      @juljul3107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stickernoodle6197 nope, I bought it just at the beginning + I live in Poland

    • @stickernoodle6197
      @stickernoodle6197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juljul3107 are you serious i spent 750 on mine

    • @juljul3107
      @juljul3107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stickernoodle6197 ouch