Wired Cruiser 2024 Temp Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- 2024 Wired Cruiser Temp Test + 50 Mile Ride Impressions.
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Great video. Very informative!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
Another good one bud. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Gary!
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i've had mine for 3 weeks and 400 miles, can't wait to commute on it daily. swapped out the stock Kenda's for origin8 supercells, which i highly HIGHLY recommend although they do need a hundred miles or so of break in. fastest recorded top speed on the gps was 43.5 so far.
freaking a on the orgin 8 well done, thats what i have on my big cat ebike, will be getting this in the spring time, new york here ( long island) no hills yeah baby
@@516throwapot ha ha we're city dwellers. 1400 miles on the supercells so far...tread still looks great and no flats...guessing the 30tpi rating helps.
@@benhartland4708 i have 26,000 miles on my orgin 8 supercells and still going strong lol
I agree looking forward to seeing what’s next.
I want to open up the controller housing for some ventilation but I don't want to void the warranty by drilling. Instead I'm going to have someone make me a 3D printed cover that matches the fastener locations. I'm going to try a few iterations, probably one of them will have some type of funneled air intake and outtake to maximize air flow through the controller section. And then I'll just paint it to match my bike.
By the way I'm 58 I've been riding motorcycles since I was 15. I just sold my Yamaha and now I have three e-bikes. I love it
Thanks for the comment @globalcop. Love the ventilated cover idea! What are the other e-bikes you own?
Motor cuts out at 355. Give it full throttle on an incline you’ll reach it pretty quickly regardless of ambient.
Thanks for confirming the max motor temperature.
I've noticed the same thing on my ECells 5 Star. I haven't allowed to go beyond about 275 degrees.
I read these particular comments with interest. I have the 2024 Wired Freedom first generation that was sold for a mere 6 months. With the second generation Ebikes out, I was wondering how uphill performance is. On my first generation bike, the motor overheats and the bike shuts down on uphill stretches. I have been disappointed by this because I can’t tackle the hills on my own. I have been wondering how the second generation does as well as the comparable Ecells bikes. It sounds like the Gen 2 and comparable Ecells suffer from the same problem! It doesn’t look like the motor itself changed with Gen 2 but correct me if I’m wrong. I sent an inquiry to Ecells asking about up hill performance on their 5Star bike and they never responded.
I like to keep it under 200* don't shee how you would manage to get to hotter than around 220ish , every time I got around the temp on my freedom it has cooled down because of the wind. I don't like getting that hot either so I only ride around 35 max and 45 when needed but that's very rare. But I have managed to hit 48mph , I'm quite light so it's much easier (135-140ish lbs) @@Hoggdoc1946
Great test ! Good to know .
Eventually, the police will start to enforce the laws on e-bikes, fining owners and/or confiscating their bikes in mass.
Thanks for the comment @ukiah_spirit. I hope that does not happen. Most e-bike owners ride responsibly. My concern is those that don’t may ruin it for the rest of us.
@@EnergizedZonie - I'm sorry my comment was not clearly stated, however, you made my point for me. Cheers!
I ride an e-bike too, I don't want to lose that privilege.
Very good point about the speed rating for the tires. Does cheap Chinese tires, I don't think they're meant for 40 mph speeds. I wish they were like cars, had ZR ratings or something. Why did you get the cruiser instead of the freedom? The only reason I'm going for the freedom is because I live in Miami FL , and it's just as hot as you over there on the west. And I do not want a controller enclosed like that, that's a terrible design flaw
Thank you for the comment. I got the Cruiser for the ease and safety of getting on and off the bike. I'm not as nimble or flexible as I once was. The step through Cruiser was worth the trade off of having the controller enclosed. No problems (so far) with the potted controller overheating.
@@EnergizedZonie awesome blossom. The tire point is extremely important. I wonder how much a bike shop would charge just for the labor in changing two tires out. Not planning to go off road at all.
I never skimp on tire quality. I’m glad you share the same concern about higher speed rated tires. I purchased the new tires before my bike even arrived.
The labor for a bike shop to change the rear tire will be more than the front tire. There are more nuts, regular washer, and torque washers on the rear to remove, not to mention that heavy motor.
@@EnergizedZonie Where did you get the tires?
I think the controller will overheat befoge the motor.
Getting this bad boy for christmas! Do you think i can ride on the road (the side of it just like a bike lane) in illinois without cops pulling me over?
That sounds like a pretty awesome Christmas present! The Wired bikes are fast enough (unlocked) to ride in the streets for short distances. I mainly ride in the bike lanes on main streets. Hopefully your town has sufficient bike lanes to use as a first option.
Not sure if this could cause your throttle issue but I’ve had to loosen up my grip on a couple bikes with that same throttle and make sure the throttle doesn’t bind at all. Beyond that I’d double check every connection is fully seated.
I've only owned two e-bikes and my first one was an Onyx cty2, and I just purchased the current generation wired freedom recently. To be honest, I didn't know how good of a bike i had in the Onyx cty2 until I got the wired freedom. I've had nothing but trouble with it, and it doesn't get up to speed nearly as fast as my Onyx cry2 did. My cty2 was capable of 54 miles per hour, their batteries were not up to snuff unfortunately! Instead of buying the wired freedom, I should have just invested some money in a better battery for my cty2.
Thanks for the comment @jcolt84. The Wired bikes (Stock) cannot reach those kinds of speeds above 50MPH like the Onyx cty2. What kind of peak wattage does that monster motor put out? Sorry you have had trouble with the bike.
They will jump back in forth. But if you go down in gear it’s not as bad. I have that on my Goat V3 I just drop down in gear and it smooths out.
That was fun. I’ve got one just like yours on the way.
I think you are going to really enjoy it!
Anyone no the range on this duel battery bike and weight capacity on a rider. 🌴
Thanks for the comment @lockup6104. The total weight capacity is 400 LBS. 350 LBS max for the rider and 50 LBS on the rear rack. I did a recent range test video where I got around 48 miles of range using both batteries fully charged on flat level ground for the most part. I’m 6’5” and 260 LBS, just to give you some background.
If he wanted to torture test for temperature, why would he not just use the throttle?
Apparently the previous wired freedoms had the ambient air temperature on the display, how were you calculating the ambient air temperature in your video?
Thanks for the comment @jcolt84. I got the ambient temps off my phone mounted beside the bikes display.
For your size/weight this bike seems perfect layout for you. Great. Where did you get water bottle holder? Thank you.
Purchased on Amazon. Here is the description: CamelBak Podium Dirt Series Chill Insulated Mountain Bike Water Bottle 21oz, Lime. Current price $16.46
So kind of you. I’m sorry I wasn’t more
Clear. I was looking for the bottle “holders”. Seems like it really holds well. Thank you in advance.
If you stay on level 1 or 2, you should not pass ~180F. The battery life is amazing at those levels too.
You are right. If I could tone it down, no worries. My need for speed causes me to push some boundaries from time to time.
Hey EZ good vid. .. i'm in az too and ride those same canal trails. lol ;) ... I rode with my action cam a couple days ago and I kept having trouble with overheating. How do you manage the overheating of your camera? thx
Thanks @electrified314. Which Action camera do you use? My Insta360 X4 camera did overheat and shutdown on me 3 times on my recent Range Test video I shot about 2 weeks ago. It was 100+ degrees that day and the ride took about 3 1/2 hours to shoot. I just shut the camera down for about 10-15 minutes and was able to continue.
They will jump back in forth. But if you go down in gear it’s not as bad.
Any speed wobble or "death wobble"?
I didn’t experience the Death Wobble in my Wobble Test video, unless I induced it myself. I can tell you from experience, the more weight you put on the rear rack, the more unstable the bike becomes.
could yo tell me your settings? Are you off 2nd rating and what are your power assist.? Tire pressure?
Both batteries and do you have a wobble?
I full unlocked the bike in the settings. I have turned down my power assist percentages twice from the factory settings. Current settings: PAS 1) 15%, PAS 2) 30%, PAS 3) 45%, PAS 4) 70%, PAS 5) 90%.
I set my tire pressure to 19.5 PSI.
I do not have a wobble with both batteries on unless I induce the wobble intentionally.
@@EnergizedZonie I have one and its obvious with the 2nd battery. i just take mine off to ride rough.
What? No green pedals, hand grips or bike seat with the little green accent stripes? Epic fail!!! 😁😁😁😁
Was this test done with the one 60v battery or the two batteries ?
Thanks for the comment. Two batteries, fully charged.
@EnergizedZonie Ok thanks 👍
Question please. wired freedom bike turned off and I roll the back wheel hub motor forwards/backwards there's a lot of loud rumbling noise is this normal My bike is 3 days old. I've only wrote it 14 mi.
Thanks for the comment @genen.7370. Have you checked your back fender to see if it is rubbing against the tire? I have had several comments from new Wired owners stating their back fender was slightly bent during shipping. There is very little clearance between the rear fender and tire to begin with. If this is it, you will need straighten out the bend in the metal fender as best you can.
Another potential cause of the rub could be the rear rack support brackets needing to be adjusted. When I received my Cruiser, I had to loosen the rear rack bolts where the rack attaches to the frame, lift the rear rack with one hand and tighten the bolts on either side of the bike quickly to make sure I had the most clearance possible. That solved my rubbing problem. Pro tip: Remove the rear rack battery before doing this.
cool bike
Oh boy I think the Wired Freedom & the E-Cells high speed ebikes got some competition going on as of July 2024 they now have these 52v mountain bike style ebikes 3000w 24" 26" dual motor peak 1500w per motor 25ah battery with dual separate 25 amp controllers hitting 38-44 mph a few ppl have them on TH-cam & to find them just type 52v 3000w dual motor ebike on either Amazon or eBay and the best part is they only $1300 bucks for the more average person who don't have over 2 grand for a fast ebike
Thanks for the comment. You are right. There are more and more high speed e-bikes coming on the market. That drives competition between the manufacturer’s, which helps keep prices in check. All of us consumers get to reap the benefits of this competitive emerging market.
@EnergizedZonie yes I love it my ebike barely hits 33 mph so I'll be ordering me one of these new more powerful ebikes real soon 😉
Where did ya get that bag for the rack?
Amazon (of course). Great rear rack bag. Here is the link if you want to take a look: www.amazon.com/ROCKBROS-Trunk-17L-45L-Bicycles-Waterproof/dp/B06XPXTCTK/ref=rvi_d_sccl_1/130-1137020-9376934?pd_rd_w=N8weX&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=KGPBHVXRGRDJ82910X61&pd_rd_wg=UXYH6&pd_rd_r=3ba1495f-b58e-4bbe-8293-5a02d5135c87&pd_rd_i=B06XPXTCTK&psc=1
So today was my second day of riding 16 miles yesterday just testing things out and getting used to it. Today on a full charge did 42 miles, battery say 59% remaining. Mostly flat (Florida) but some moderate hills. Using your suggested settings in the other video ( th-cam.com/video/zesyTvaBTfY/w-d-xo.html ) I pedaled 85% of the ride. 60% in PAS1 30% PAS 2-3 and about 5 miles throttle only fun. I'm sure the 2nd half of the batteries drains much faster than the first half if it's anything like my other 3 ebikes, but I'm still impressed with the distance achieved. . This bike is night and days above Rad Rover and Mini's that I own. On the other hand it's a pretty strong bike for people who haven't ridden a bike in decades.
BTW what is considered to high of a temp, I missed that part if you gave an opinion.
Looks you got some really good range! 42 miles is a long ride. Great exercise pedaling 85% of the ride!
The motor max’s out around 355 degrees Fahrenheit.
Have had my Cruiser for three weeks. It constantly overheats and turns off after climbing a 20% grade in PAS 3 for a out 1/2 mile. Tech is sending me a motor core and controller.😢
Sorry to hear that it overheated. Hopefully, the new motor core and controller will fix that issue. It’s good to know Wired is providing replacement components.
I would be interested to know if the new motor core and controller resolves the overheating issue.
You could never achieve those speeds on an e cell. 1000 more watts with the Wired and you can instantly feel the difference.
You are correct, I can only hit 42 in pas 5 and 39 on throttle with my 5 Star, this new version of the Wired is definitely faster. I will say though, soon as I get over 35-37 I usually back off, gets pretty windy and sketchy.
Get the 17 inch ecells
I'm looking at the E-Cells 16" Step Star with 24" tires for my wife. That smaller frame would work great for shorter riders.
@@EnergizedZonieout of stock and they have no idea when they're going to get them in stock. I'm sure you know that
nice bike great review now lets talk the law is this bike legal to ride on public roads the federal law says no bike with a motor over 750 watts can not be on the road and most states have the same law is this true where you are if so why are you riding on the road you could get pulled over we all want to go faster and some companies give us that bike which they can sell us but it is up to us to obey our local laws please mention this in your video so people will not buy a bike that is illegal if you are in an accident god forbid you are in trouble I am an engineer an this bike is not designed to go at the speed it does the WOBBLE is telling you that when you let go of the handle bars as I did when I tied the bike I bought the limit bike as I call it and am very happy with it it is a fucare gemini x ebike I get an easy 28 miles an our but I was looking for range it comes with two battery guys and a full throttle range for me of 32 miles I am 200 pounds it worked for me and it meets the federal law that superseeds yes superseeds any state law it is different now out there they are checking because there are so many on the road let me give you an example my friend who lives in Massachusetts got pulled over doing 32 and had a thousand watt motorBAMM they gave him a 500 hundred dollar fine pretty excessive I say and told he could not ride that bike unless he had a motor cycle license they made an example of him so where is he nowand his bike in his garage having a beer his bike does zero mph and has a range of zero to top it off his wife put a sign on his bike that said STUPID please check your laws buy legal ride safe and have a blast on your ebike
Nice video, Zonie. I am a couple of years older than you, but I still appreciate performance, too.
I have drilled ventilation holes in direct drive hub motors to keep them cooled at high outputs of 7-8kw. None of my bikes with geared hubs can flow much over 2kw, so they haven't needed it. Your wired seems to be handling the hot 98 ambient well. But if heat becomes an issue, then you could consider ventilating the hub.
I'm really impressed that the output from the controller didn't seem to drop from the heat. I would have thought that it would have to reduce power to protect itself in there.
And you are right that it is fine to buy a Wired and not unlock the extra performance. You would get extreme range and a plush dual-suspension ride. And then you could go home and eat just one Lays potato chip.
Thank you for the comment and suggestion! Have you had any issues with your controllers overheating? I was actually thinking of drilling some ventilation holes in the crank case where the controller is housed. I think that would help with heat dissipation, but I’m not sure if it’s needed. I would prefer not to mess with the aesthetics of the bike if I can avoid it.
@EnergizedZonie Yes, I have had issues with controller heat on bikes with the controller mounted in the bottom bracket. I was really surprised that your Cruiser was still able to draw high peak wattage on a hot day with an enclosed controller.
I'm a retired electronics tech and used to do a lot of amateur road racing on regular bikes. I have gradually become the ebike guy to friends and neighbors in my Midwestern town.
I have seen controller peak output drop by 40% on a hot day as it became overheated in the bottom bracket housing. I have dealt with the problem in a couple of different ways. If the person is satisfied with the bikes performance before it overheats, then I ventilate the side covers. I drill a 10mm hole in the right side cover in front of the chainring, and another 10mm hole at the rear of the left side cover. I have 10mm silicon rubber plugs from Amazon that can seal the holes if riding in sloppy weather. That has solved the overheat of the stock controllers. But I have also fixed a few of them by installing a larger controller on the back of the seat tube. That way, they get a major performance boost.
Your Cruiser has a nice controller. I would recommend taking it out for a hard ride and then removing the left side cover and seeing how hot it is. You don't have to take the crankarm off since the cover will rotate out of the way. If the controller is too hot to touch, then you may want to add the vent holes for longevity.
dude get the knobby tires off, get the orgin 8 supercells, smooooooooooooth
Thanks for the comment @516throwapot. I did replace the knobby stock tires with HEB Allscape all terrain tires about 600 Miles ago. Really liking the Allscapes! I will have to check into the 8 Supercells.
Really a 1000 more watts they have a 45 amp controller that is different otherwise they are the same. Wired is a little faster now , but e cells is coming out with 60 amp controller that will probably make it a little faster .
Wow! A 60A controller would be awesome. I love to see Wired and e-cells compete by consistently upping their game!
Don’t forget the e cells torque sensor or Gates Drive, neither worked and shows that Cleveland is a fraud. A career in mobile home sales followed by 12 years in prison has prepared Cleveland to be a con man not a bike genius. He found Jesus in prison, perhaps he also taught him about e bikes, or he learned his craft in the prison work shop. Wired controller pulls over 3300 watts so it’s peaking close to 60 amps. Step star with two batteries is $2295 + $500 for dual batteries, now throw in $400 for new controller and you’re at $3200. The e cells contoller is apparently based on the flux capacitor, which we all know is the secret to time travel. Can’t wait to see all the problems likely to come from their new untested contoller, if no one else in the market is using it, there is probably a good reason why, e cells is still holding the money of people who bought in April and has used that money to finance other bikes and their insanely overpriced AWD. Meanwhile people are approaching over 100 days of waiting since giving the ex con their money. E cells says they have stock, but they don’t. Bait and switch and they try and upsell you to their ridiculously priced AWD bikes. F rating from BBB for good reason.
I’m considering both bikes. Bigger controller, but more $. There’s a limit to how much I’m willing to spend. I hear or read more often overheating issues with Wired. Like what I see in both these bikes. I tried the ECells over the weekend at an Expo(granted could only go up to 20 m.p.h.) but found it a blast.
With 2 batteries like the wired?
@@nbk9nbk1I don’t remember if they had 2 batteries on the bikes or not, it was back in August.
Yes, it's a bicycle...but don't run out of battery power or you'll be the one getting smoked by 8 year-olds on their Huffys!
Too late. I did a long range video recently and ran out of battery about a mile from my house. I think I may have been passed by a 6 year old. A little embarrassing.
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