Thanks for putting in the effort on this. With the weight of the gear carried on your bike, your size and weight and the fact you didn’t hold back at all on the throttle or hill tests, nearly 50 miles was pretty impressive. I’ve watched another range test video of a Wired e-bike. Pedal assist level 1 only was used, almost no hills and the reviewer was your height but weighed 225lbs. He made it 72 miles before battery quit. It would appear that with someone weighing ~180lbs and using level assist one only would most likely easily make the claimed 80 mile range that Wired claims for at an assist level one.
Thanks for the comment. The intended main takeaway was your range should be better than mine. Establishing an individual range baseline is something I think most riders want to know to help reduce the dreaded "range anxiety".
He most def held back on the throttle he averaged like 18 miles n hour. It wired bec when citizen did a review on the range of the bike he got up to 71 miles with throttle heavy going 30 to to 40 miles per hour n bottoming at 20
Ironically I am likely moving to Mesa at the end of this month from Tucson, when I'm able to get it together enough my primary goal is to get a Cruiser of my own to do Doordash on, my left leg got destroyed in a hyper-scooter accident a few months back and I really need the exercise yet the assistance to back me so I don't overdo it, damn city kept my scooter for safe keeping only to want to charge me what it was worth by the time I had enough of my mind together in the hospital to track it down so I couldn't even retrieve it to sell it to help with my recovery, even got denied food stamps for my recovery too even though I have no savings or ability to work for the past few months, but as bleak and horrible as things have been, your videos help give me hope for much better times ahead, I was terrifying at first at the idea of riding again, but your videos help me get over the trauma caused by my accident, thank you my friend and God bless, hopefully I'll see you on the trail sometime when I get out there 😊
I'm sorry to hear about your accident. Terrible what the city of Tucson did with your scooter! I hope your recovery goes well so you can get back to doing what you enjoy. Western Powerline Trail is a popular biking location here in the East valley.
@@EnergizedZonie when I'm on 2 wheels again I will definitely check it out and I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you, sure I'll see you from half a mile down the trail lol, I plan on getting the orange version when I'm able, matches the orange theme I already wear on my gloves and the bag I plan on adding to the rear, I can't wait, it looks so much safer than my old scooter, I just hope I can tailer the throttle to smooth out the jerkiness since I know I'll need to rely on it heavily now, sometimes just moving my leg feels like it's grinding bone on bone so I'll definitely need to temper that beast by sinking the throttle to the peddle assist to make use of it more like gears
Thanks for sharing the info and the ride. That's the color and step through i was going to choose. I may hold off for a torque censor option that hopefully wired gets in the future. or atleast a hybrid . also the chain guard on both sides is a must. my current cruiser has both sides. and is a great feature for these ebikes.
You Should have Stopped for Mexican Food to your right on Gilbert Road at 49:50! LOL I love that area! Nice Video! I was just looking at the Wired Cruiser! Thank You!
Awesome video. I had a very hard time setting up the rear rack when i got my 2024+ Wired Freedom. I'm wondering how you got those mirrors in 😅 I have two but have no idea how to put them on the end of the handle bars. But yes, it's everything you said, the same here. I ran my bike down to 0% where it turned off on me at 35 miles, but I was going top speed a lot too. But I believe I could double that to 70 miles if I treated it like a normal E-Bike on PAS 1 or PAS 2. New Subscriber here, perfect review video!
Thank you for the feedback! You will need to remove the end bar plastic/rubber caps by prying outwards carefully until you can grab the cap with your fingers and remove. It can be a bit tricky to work the cap loose in the beginning. I actual broke one of the plastic caps off the rubber expansion tube by applying too much force.
In case is helpful as Zonie mentioned throttle issues, with my new Freedom, on 1st ride, my throttle did not do anything at all but Power Assist worked fine. Contacted Wired thru Chat and suggestion was possible cables disconnected or loose connection - Wired recommended opening up the velcro cloth like material that is covering the cables directly in front of the handlebars - apparently connectors can come loose during shipping. Solved my problem - if disconnected make sure the Arrows line up on the black plastic connectors before reconnecting. A suggestion is you may want to check these connectors where cables come together to make sure they are not just loose. Only takes a minute to check. But I have also heard on TH-cam of a few other Cruisers describing a similar jerky throttle.
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try go back and check the connections. No issues with them. I'm not giving up on trying to find a fix. If there is a fix, I think it will come from the Wired owners community. This is the exact quote I received from Wired 2 days ago when I asked for any suggested fixes "There is always a throttle delay for safety purposes".
@@EnergizedZonie Thanks! Am also curious what Wired response was about the front wobble if you do not mind sharing? You mentioned in the video about sending them an email about the wobble. I am having a similar issue with a new Freedom and am curious what to expect if I send them an email with this question.
230 degrees is about as far as you wanna push them. Make sure you set the preload with a torque wrench on the headset. I tightened mine. It was loose from factory. And I run 25 psi. Both helped take the flex out of the head and wheels.
You are wrong and must be listening to David Cleveland who is the only person that has ever quoted 230, he just pulled that number from his butt and it shows how little Cleveland knows and proves he is a fraud. The Wired motors and the varnish used on the windings is good to 360 and the motor will shut off at 350.
So far, I haven't experienced any issues up to 294 degrees. Where I live, I can exceed 230 degrees on the motor using only 50%-75% motor power. I do not plan on pushing higher motor temps for sustained periods of time.
Thanks for the comment @bizzfo. Wow 96 miles. That’s incredible! You are definitely getting more out of your batteries than I am. Wasn’t your butt tired after 6 hours? If I had the will power to leave it mostly in pedal PAS 1 and I didn’t jam on that throttle the way I do, I could get much better range. Sadly, I have very little will power and can’t help but push this bike to It’s limits on nearly every ride.
I have the same issues you mentioned with the throttle on a Wired Cruiser I received last week. I also sent in an email requesting advice. Would love to hear an update if you hear anything back!
Sorry to hear you are having the same issue. I did hear back from Wired. The only advice offered was to adjust the throttle start strength in the settings to the slowest takeoff setting (3). Currently, I have it set to (0). The fastest start strength.
@@EnergizedZonie Oh that's interesting. I talked to Steve and he recommended I set the start strength to 0 (I had it set to 2), and that seemed to keep the throttle stable, just testing it in the garage, but out on the road it still seems like it's jumpy.
Thanks for the comment! Will do. I need to put all the links together first. I also plan on putting out an accessories video soon that will go into a little more detail. Spoiler-I may have gone overboard a bit with the accessories.
I'm looking at the 26" 50 mph EcoE 60v 5000w 32ah dual motor ebike on Amazon for a fraction of the cost at $1199 designed and built just like the Wired freedom & E-Cells ebikes..
Thanks for the comment @diysolaradventures7894. I looked this bike up on Amazon. Looks like you get a lot of bang for the buck. It's actually $1499 with the $300 shipping fee. I could not see many details on the components in the specs. The biggest concern I would have is the mechanical disc brakes that come on this bike instead of hydraulic disk brakes. I did not see a brake router diameter listed either. A bike with this much power and this much weight would need a minimum of 180mm rotors (203mm preferred) and minimum 2 piston hydraulic disk brakes (4 piston preferred). I know it's a budget e-bike and they need to save money using cheaper components to be competitive, but braking power should be a serious consideration before you purchase it. Another consideration would be if this bike came nylon gears only in the motor instead of steel & nylon gears. I did not see a torque rating, but I'm assuming it's at least 100-150nm's. With (2) 2500 watt motors, the life span of those motors could be significantly reduced with only nylon gears. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, I'm just offering my opinions for whatever they are worth.
I got these on Amazon. Here is the description and link: HEB ALLSCAPE Heavy Duty 26x4 / 20x4 Bike Tire - High-Performance Puncture Resistant Fat Tire for E-Bikes Mountain Bikes, Bike Tire for Street + Trail Riding: www.amazon.com/ALLSCAPE-High-Performance-Puncture-Resistant-Mountain/dp/B0D326ZK12/ref=sr_1_1?crid=F4U5V9ANEFG5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.imcqpyCn2Ush6akIR-3KKve4Z4eOdfkGtOoSL6njYJ_HMMmHE2AOMT-MUte4omE7MoBBw8xBAd2dtCq7_qPwiDkKzilXPJbaRz18QtxsnmiMlLbkCRz3U5Km1ckcfYkVgaoN4YY-cj9n_fcnZqb3XRSpQtJX87mCf2cCoDl-S7dJLGxRW-7wB90I1CyPLDxLCVrcNsqsoRjkXl5u1geQZRaTIwV_GqTsQrmb_46r8JCApPHuL7GOruUyXoxmtuYiaYttdsgwgupy7wMaKjkVLj73peZx4BWv4WbO-tzBkCk.3TCtrZX2gKywKqQgxOReALXLPmlZp92F8B4pkdCWciQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=heb%2Ballscape%2B26%2Bx%2B4%2Bfat%2Btires&qid=1727462432&sprefix=heb%2Ballscap%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1 I used the Insta360 app/camara for the video.
I am racking my brain back and forth trying to decide between the Freedom and the Cruiser. Both my wife and I are 5'8" tall, me being 165 lbs muscular build and her being a more slender build at 130 lbs, but strong in her own right... I think I like the idea of the cruiser more all around as a whole, but it does seem like it may not handle quite as well on a more "off-road" trail due to the frame configuration (both slightly less clearance as well as potential frame flex)? Also, the controller being housed in an enclosed area really worries me vs. it being out in the open on the freedom. I understand you probably have never tried the freedom, but what are your thoughts on the matter?
Thank you for the comment. You described your use case perfectly. If you are looking at riding on more challenging off road trails, I would recommend the Freedom or the Cruiser. The step-over design offers better rigidity and less frame flex. As I mentioned in the video, these bikes are are pretty big. Sounds like you may not have any issues with stepping over the mid section or swinging your leg over the rear rack. Keep in mind, if you plan on using a rear rack bike bag most of the time, it can be challenging clearing the extra height of the bag. Enjoy the ride!!
I thought all cruisers came with the hellbender headset, the bottom ring should say hellbender on it, the top is whatever Wired used before but it isn’t the working part of the headset, the first ring is. Loosen the two stem bolts then torque the bolt under the little rubber cap from 2.5nm to 3.5nm. They fixed the throttle delay, my cruiser has none.
Did your cruiser come with the hellbwnder? I am getting ready to order black or lime green cruiser and was wondering...also is your throttle pretty smooth or jerky? And not much delay? Thanks
Mine came with the Hellbender installed and the throttle has almost no delay. The Hellbender has the added advantage of making the bike exceptionally stable at high speed. I find it more stable at high speed than my V1 Freedom with the battery capacity to really drive it like a small motorcycle if you want. Get black, it goes faster!
Thank you! I am glad you pointed out to look at the bottom ring. It does say Hellbender 70 Visco. The top cap has "XR" written on it. I need to write Wired back and ask them to disregard my request for a replacement. Do you know how they fixed the throttle delay? The only suggestion I have received so far from Wired is to change start strength to the slowest level (3). The delay is still there, but with a slower start from takeoff. So you do not get the mid-range "jerks" or "studders" when you apply a slight throttle increase?
They got rid of the delay although the throttle is a bit twitchy compared to the old. I hope they remap the throttle in future batches to make it a bit smoother although I’ve gotten used to it. In terms of reflashing your display to the new software, you would have to ask Wired, you might be able to send them your display or they might send you a dongle and the software. Be nice and they will bend over backwards for you. Your headset can be easily adjusted to eliminate all wobble, it doesn’t take much force as the adjustment range is only 2.5nm to 3.5nm. If your chain is falling off, try inflating your rear shock to your weight or the 250lbs max and turning the red lever to the middle (down) position to make the shock stiffer, completely solved the issue for me.
@@EnergizedZonie Figures it's only on iPhone and iPad. PROWHEEL Bike Chainring Guard,130MM BCD 42T/44T/46T/48T/52T/53T/54T/56T/58T/60T Aluminum Alloy Chain Ring Protector Cover for Chainring Sprockets MTB,E-Bike,Road Bike,City Bike,Folding Bike.
hey zonie. i ride that trail all the time to. it's right by my house in gilbert. I'm looking to buy this exact bike. though i have something similar with magicycle cruiser. but looking for an upgrade.
It's a small world, right? Great trail. I can highly recommend the Wired Cruiser or Freedom for anyone 5'5" or above. If you are interested in taking a look at this Cruiser (AKA Trigger), just let me know. Happy to show it off to a fellow enthusiast.
The brand is Meachow: MEACHOW New Bar End Bike Mirror, Crystal UHD Automotive Grade Glass Lens E-Bike Mirrors, Scratch Resistant, Safe Rearview Mirrors, (Blue Left Side) ME-022LB. Got them on Amazon for $16.98 for single mirror.
I need a bike like that , that goes 45 all day or up to 50 mph . Flat ground 200 lbs load 45 mph or better. No hills here, no goat heads. 45mph roads with no bike lanes. I think E Cells Monstar is worth the extra $1,500 to me.
Agreed. The E-Cells MONSTAR is worth the extra $1500, but it’s actually less than a $1596 difference. E-Cells does not charge for shipping in the continental U.S. and I believe no taxes charged for most states. If you use one of the discount codes from one of the affiliate e-bike reviewers on TH-cam, you can get an additional $100 off. With taxes and shipping, I paid a total of $2351.02 for my Wired Cruiser. The actual cost differential is $1150.00.
@EnergizedZonie at least you are not a total snob about the Wired bikes being better. Lol . But i must admit, 5-6 mph faster is a pretty big difference on bikes.
The response was very disappointing. Even though I mentioned I have the XR headset, I was “told” I have the Visco and that all I needed to do was tighten it down. I looked up a photo and description of the Hellbender 70 Visco headset. They are clearly 2 different headsets. The email from Wired may have been written by someone else other than Steve. The tone of the headset/throttle email response was rude and direct. A complete 180 from the response Steve sent me offering to replace my damaged right front brake lever assembly at no cost.
@@macs4887 I would've bought eCells step-through if it would've come in green. Specially since there's at least one interview with the owner on TH-cam and probably none of the other two 🫏🤡's.
The e cell trolls are pathetic. The funny thing is the five star dual battery has a horrible death wobble, so much worse than the Freedom and they have no way to fix their underpowered clone because Wired has an exclusive on the Hellbender headset😂😂😂 th-cam.com/video/EBpmJcfPQqc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h4CHWuZu51GxY-KW
MEACHOW New Bar End Bike Mirror, Crystal UHD Automotive Grade Glass Lens E-Bike Mirrors, Scratch Resistant, Safe Rearview Mirrors, (Blue Left Side) ME-022LB. Purchased on Amazon.
I have a question if someone could answer please. I bought a Freedom recently and would like to get mirrors that come out of the handlebars similar to in this video. Does that caps on the ends of both handlebars pop out or off, or do they need to be cut out with like a knife? I have not been able to figure this out and do not want to start cutting. I tried loosening the screw near the end of the handlebars but am not sure about this. Appreciate in advance the information you can provide!
@@jfly2249 Thanks - just got the caps off using your suggestion about a butter knife - took a little jiggling but they finally came off. Am glad I used the butter knife per your suggestion rather than pliers as I was thinking to use...
My bike is having a problem with the PAS and Throttle being unresponsive after putting it in PAS 1. Steve is making me jump through hoops to get it fixed. He wants me to diagnose it and take video of it like WTF? I don't want to do that and shouldn't have to do that. But apparently with what I've told him he can't narrow it down or doesn't believe me. It seems like he doesn't believe me to me but why would I lie about it?
Is it only happening in PAS 1 and not 2-5? If so, I wonder if you might be having an issue with your controller or your button cluster? If it was a loose electrical connection, it seems like it would affect every PAS level. I would hope Steve would offer to send you a replacement component or part that he suspects is causing the issue. Good luck getting the issue resolved. Please let me know how it turns out.
@@EnergizedZonie I don't know. I'm only noticing it when it's in 1 and pedaling and nothing happens and then I'll try the throttle and it's the same thing. No response. I usually have my phone in the phone holder so that means that I have to freeze and try to pull it out and try to take a video of it or just not put it in the holder so that I can try to take a video of it while it's happening but I don't think that I'm coordinated enough to do that so I might have to try to buy a cheap action camera to put on my chest just so I can show it to him. The Assist and Throttle lights are coming on when it happens and the voltage is showing but it's just the voltage from me pedalling not from the motor.
@luigiproencher-I’m sure you probably thought of this already, but is it possible you are in the lowest PAS level 0 instead of PAS 1? If so, the motor will not supply any power to the PAS or throttle if you are in PAS 0. Try PAS 2 and see if you get power from the motor.
I don’t think no response is the right response. They could play it safe by quoting what is in the user guide to avoid any potential liability, if that is a concern for them.
Thank you for posting a real world range test. Very well done and useful.
Hey Jody-I'm glad you liked it. I ended up shooting it twice. The 1st time in 360. It didn't turn out like I had hoped. Kept the single lens POV.
Thanks for putting in the effort on this. With the weight of the gear carried on your bike, your size and weight and the fact you didn’t hold back at all on the throttle or hill tests, nearly 50 miles was pretty impressive. I’ve watched another range test video of a Wired e-bike. Pedal assist level 1 only was used, almost no hills and the reviewer was your height but weighed 225lbs. He made it 72 miles before battery quit. It would appear that with someone weighing ~180lbs and using level assist one only would most likely easily make the claimed 80 mile range that Wired claims for at an assist level one.
Thanks for the comment. The intended main takeaway was your range should be better than mine. Establishing an individual range baseline is something I think most riders want to know to help reduce the dreaded "range anxiety".
Heyy what vedio id like to wwath it
He most def held back on the throttle he averaged like 18 miles n hour. It wired bec when citizen did a review on the range of the bike he got up to 71 miles with throttle heavy going 30 to to 40 miles per hour n bottoming at 20
Ironically I am likely moving to Mesa at the end of this month from Tucson, when I'm able to get it together enough my primary goal is to get a Cruiser of my own to do Doordash on, my left leg got destroyed in a hyper-scooter accident a few months back and I really need the exercise yet the assistance to back me so I don't overdo it, damn city kept my scooter for safe keeping only to want to charge me what it was worth by the time I had enough of my mind together in the hospital to track it down so I couldn't even retrieve it to sell it to help with my recovery, even got denied food stamps for my recovery too even though I have no savings or ability to work for the past few months, but as bleak and horrible as things have been, your videos help give me hope for much better times ahead, I was terrifying at first at the idea of riding again, but your videos help me get over the trauma caused by my accident, thank you my friend and God bless, hopefully I'll see you on the trail sometime when I get out there 😊
I'm sorry to hear about your accident. Terrible what the city of Tucson did with your scooter! I hope your recovery goes well so you can get back to doing what you enjoy. Western Powerline Trail is a popular biking location here in the East valley.
@@EnergizedZonie when I'm on 2 wheels again I will definitely check it out and I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you, sure I'll see you from half a mile down the trail lol, I plan on getting the orange version when I'm able, matches the orange theme I already wear on my gloves and the bag I plan on adding to the rear, I can't wait, it looks so much safer than my old scooter, I just hope I can tailer the throttle to smooth out the jerkiness since I know I'll need to rely on it heavily now, sometimes just moving my leg feels like it's grinding bone on bone so I'll definitely need to temper that beast by sinking the throttle to the peddle assist to make use of it more like gears
Thanks for sharing the info and the ride. That's the color and step through i was going to choose. I may hold off for a torque censor option that hopefully wired gets in the future. or atleast a hybrid . also the chain guard on both sides is a must. my current cruiser has both sides. and is a great feature for these ebikes.
You Should have Stopped for Mexican Food to your right on Gilbert Road at 49:50! LOL I love that area! Nice Video! I was just looking at the Wired Cruiser! Thank You!
Thanks for the comment Patrick. You are right. Lots of nice restaurants in downtown Gilbert.
It’s a nice colour your bike,I like the wired bikes plenty of power,I was considering one but they don’t ship to the uk
That’s a shame. Hopefully, they will consider shipping overseas in time if they get enough interest.
Awesome video. I had a very hard time setting up the rear rack when i got my 2024+ Wired Freedom. I'm wondering how you got those mirrors in 😅 I have two but have no idea how to put them on the end of the handle bars.
But yes, it's everything you said, the same here. I ran my bike down to 0% where it turned off on me at 35 miles, but I was going top speed a lot too. But I believe I could double that to 70 miles if I treated it like a normal E-Bike on PAS 1 or PAS 2.
New Subscriber here, perfect review video!
Thank you for the feedback! You will need to remove the end bar plastic/rubber caps by prying outwards carefully until you can grab the cap with your fingers and remove. It can be a bit tricky to work the cap loose in the beginning. I actual broke one of the plastic caps off the rubber expansion tube by applying too much force.
So it lasted about 35 miles gull throttle
In case is helpful as Zonie mentioned throttle issues, with my new Freedom, on 1st ride, my throttle did not do anything at all but Power Assist worked fine. Contacted Wired thru Chat and suggestion was possible cables disconnected or loose connection - Wired recommended opening up the velcro cloth like material that is covering the cables directly in front of the handlebars - apparently connectors can come loose during shipping. Solved my problem - if disconnected make sure the Arrows line up on the black plastic connectors before reconnecting. A suggestion is you may want to check these connectors where cables come together to make sure they are not just loose. Only takes a minute to check. But I have also heard on TH-cam of a few other Cruisers describing a similar jerky throttle.
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try go back and check the connections. No issues with them. I'm not giving up on trying to find a fix. If there is a fix, I think it will come from the Wired owners community. This is the exact quote I received from Wired 2 days ago when I asked for any suggested fixes "There is always a throttle delay for safety purposes".
@@EnergizedZonie Thanks! Am also curious what Wired response was about the front wobble if you do not mind sharing? You mentioned in the video about sending them an email about the wobble. I am having a similar issue with a new Freedom and am curious what to expect if I send them an email with this question.
230 degrees is about as far as you wanna push them.
Make sure you set the preload with a torque wrench on the headset. I tightened mine. It was loose from factory. And I run 25 psi. Both helped take the flex out of the head and wheels.
You are wrong and must be listening to David Cleveland who is the only person that has ever quoted 230, he just pulled that number from his butt and it shows how little Cleveland knows and proves he is a fraud. The Wired motors and the varnish used on the windings is good to 360 and the motor will shut off at 350.
So far, I haven't experienced any issues up to 294 degrees. Where I live, I can exceed 230 degrees on the motor using only 50%-75% motor power. I do not plan on pushing higher motor temps for sustained periods of time.
I did 96 miles, only used 58% battery but I was pedaling and stayed mostly in assist 1 and with occasional 3 for hills, took me over 6 hours
Thanks for the comment @bizzfo. Wow 96 miles. That’s incredible! You are definitely getting more out of your batteries than I am. Wasn’t your butt tired after 6 hours? If I had the will power to leave it mostly in pedal PAS 1 and I didn’t jam on that throttle the way I do, I could get much better range. Sadly, I have very little will power and can’t help but push this bike to It’s limits on nearly every ride.
I have the same issues you mentioned with the throttle on a Wired Cruiser I received last week. I also sent in an email requesting advice. Would love to hear an update if you hear anything back!
Sorry to hear you are having the same issue. I did hear back from Wired. The only advice offered was to adjust the throttle start strength in the settings to the slowest takeoff setting (3). Currently, I have it set to (0). The fastest start strength.
@@EnergizedZonie Oh that's interesting. I talked to Steve and he recommended I set the start strength to 0 (I had it set to 2), and that seemed to keep the throttle stable, just testing it in the garage, but out on the road it still seems like it's jumpy.
Great vid Zonie i just ordered a orange cruiser last friday 9/20 can you post links to all your accessories on your bike thx
Thanks for the comment! Will do. I need to put all the links together first. I also plan on putting out an accessories video soon that will go into a little more detail. Spoiler-I may have gone overboard a bit with the accessories.
I'm looking at the 26" 50 mph EcoE 60v 5000w 32ah dual motor ebike on Amazon for a fraction of the cost at $1199 designed and built just like the Wired freedom & E-Cells ebikes..
Thanks for the comment @diysolaradventures7894. I looked this bike up on Amazon. Looks like you get a lot of bang for the buck. It's actually $1499 with the $300 shipping fee. I could not see many details on the components in the specs. The biggest concern I would have is the mechanical disc brakes that come on this bike instead of hydraulic disk brakes. I did not see a brake router diameter listed either. A bike with this much power and this much weight would need a minimum of 180mm rotors (203mm preferred) and minimum 2 piston hydraulic disk brakes (4 piston preferred). I know it's a budget e-bike and they need to save money using cheaper components to be competitive, but braking power should be a serious consideration before you purchase it.
Another consideration would be if this bike came nylon gears only in the motor instead of steel & nylon gears. I did not see a torque rating, but I'm assuming it's at least 100-150nm's. With (2) 2500 watt motors, the life span of those motors could be significantly reduced with only nylon gears. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, I'm just offering my opinions for whatever they are worth.
Great video!! Can you post the info for your tires? Also what app did you use on your phone?
I got these on Amazon. Here is the description and link: HEB ALLSCAPE Heavy Duty 26x4 / 20x4 Bike Tire - High-Performance Puncture Resistant Fat Tire for E-Bikes Mountain Bikes, Bike Tire for Street + Trail Riding:
www.amazon.com/ALLSCAPE-High-Performance-Puncture-Resistant-Mountain/dp/B0D326ZK12/ref=sr_1_1?crid=F4U5V9ANEFG5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.imcqpyCn2Ush6akIR-3KKve4Z4eOdfkGtOoSL6njYJ_HMMmHE2AOMT-MUte4omE7MoBBw8xBAd2dtCq7_qPwiDkKzilXPJbaRz18QtxsnmiMlLbkCRz3U5Km1ckcfYkVgaoN4YY-cj9n_fcnZqb3XRSpQtJX87mCf2cCoDl-S7dJLGxRW-7wB90I1CyPLDxLCVrcNsqsoRjkXl5u1geQZRaTIwV_GqTsQrmb_46r8JCApPHuL7GOruUyXoxmtuYiaYttdsgwgupy7wMaKjkVLj73peZx4BWv4WbO-tzBkCk.3TCtrZX2gKywKqQgxOReALXLPmlZp92F8B4pkdCWciQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=heb%2Ballscape%2B26%2Bx%2B4%2Bfat%2Btires&qid=1727462432&sprefix=heb%2Ballscap%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1
I used the Insta360 app/camara for the video.
Thank you very much for the info! I meant the app on your phone that showed your distance, top speed etc.
apps.apple.com/app/id557871911
@@EnergizedZonie
Thank you!!
I am racking my brain back and forth trying to decide between the Freedom and the Cruiser. Both my wife and I are 5'8" tall, me being 165 lbs muscular build and her being a more slender build at 130 lbs, but strong in her own right... I think I like the idea of the cruiser more all around as a whole, but it does seem like it may not handle quite as well on a more "off-road" trail due to the frame configuration (both slightly less clearance as well as potential frame flex)? Also, the controller being housed in an enclosed area really worries me vs. it being out in the open on the freedom. I understand you probably have never tried the freedom, but what are your thoughts on the matter?
Thank you for the comment. You described your use case perfectly. If you are looking at riding on more challenging off road trails, I would recommend the Freedom or the Cruiser. The step-over design offers better rigidity and less frame flex. As I mentioned in the video, these bikes are are pretty big. Sounds like you may not have any issues with stepping over the mid section or swinging your leg over the rear rack. Keep in mind, if you plan on using a rear rack bike bag most of the time, it can be challenging clearing the extra height of the bag. Enjoy the ride!!
I have an aniioki A8 pro Max e-bike. 48v 60ah but plan on selling it to get the wired cruiser or the ecells dual star.
Thank you for the comment. I don’t think you can go wrong with either choice. Are you having issues with your Aniioki?
Could you share the Bike Pedal link - great safety idea.
Thanks for the comment. I think you will like these pedals: REDSHIFT ARCLIGHT Bicycle Pedals... www.amazon.com/dp/B09PRP3TQN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I thought all cruisers came with the hellbender headset, the bottom ring should say hellbender on it, the top is whatever Wired used before but it isn’t the working part of the headset, the first ring is. Loosen the two stem bolts then torque the bolt under the little rubber cap from 2.5nm to 3.5nm. They fixed the throttle delay, my cruiser has none.
Did your cruiser come with the hellbwnder? I am getting ready to order black or lime green cruiser and was wondering...also is your throttle pretty smooth or jerky? And not much delay? Thanks
Mine came with the Hellbender installed and the throttle has almost no delay. The Hellbender has the added advantage of making the bike exceptionally stable at high speed. I find it more stable at high speed than my V1 Freedom with the battery capacity to really drive it like a small motorcycle if you want. Get black, it goes faster!
Thank you! I am glad you pointed out to look at the bottom ring. It does say Hellbender 70 Visco. The top cap has "XR" written on it. I need to write Wired back and ask them to disregard my request for a replacement. Do you know how they fixed the throttle delay? The only suggestion I have received so far from Wired is to change start strength to the slowest level (3). The delay is still there, but with a slower start from takeoff. So you do not get the mid-range "jerks" or "studders" when you apply a slight throttle increase?
They got rid of the delay although the throttle is a bit twitchy compared to the old. I hope they remap the throttle in future batches to make it a bit smoother although I’ve gotten used to it. In terms of reflashing your display to the new software, you would have to ask Wired, you might be able to send them your display or they might send you a dongle and the software. Be nice and they will bend over backwards for you. Your headset can be easily adjusted to eliminate all wobble, it doesn’t take much force as the adjustment range is only 2.5nm to 3.5nm. If your chain is falling off, try inflating your rear shock to your weight or the 250lbs max and turning the red lever to the middle (down) position to make the shock stiffer, completely solved the issue for me.
I just got word that my bike's on it's way. What app is that you're using on your phone?
That’s exciting! I remember that anxious anticipation. Here’s the link to the speedometer app; apps.apple.com/app/id557871911
@@EnergizedZonie Figures it's only on iPhone and iPad. PROWHEEL Bike Chainring Guard,130MM BCD 42T/44T/46T/48T/52T/53T/54T/56T/58T/60T Aluminum Alloy Chain Ring Protector Cover for Chainring Sprockets MTB,E-Bike,Road Bike,City Bike,Folding Bike.
hey zonie. i ride that trail all the time to. it's right by my house in gilbert. I'm looking to buy this exact bike. though i have something similar with magicycle cruiser. but looking for an upgrade.
It's a small world, right? Great trail. I can highly recommend the Wired Cruiser or Freedom for anyone 5'5" or above. If you are interested in taking a look at this Cruiser (AKA Trigger), just let me know. Happy to show it off to a fellow enthusiast.
What brand did you get for the rear view mirrors and have you put any directional's on it?
The brand is Meachow: MEACHOW New Bar End Bike Mirror, Crystal UHD Automotive Grade Glass Lens E-Bike Mirrors, Scratch Resistant, Safe Rearview Mirrors, (Blue Left Side) ME-022LB. Got them on Amazon for $16.98 for single mirror.
Any luck finding a double sided chain guard?
Not yet. Still looking.
I need a bike like that , that goes 45 all day or up to 50 mph . Flat ground 200 lbs load 45 mph or better. No hills here, no goat heads. 45mph roads with no bike lanes. I think E Cells Monstar is worth the extra $1,500 to me.
Agreed. The E-Cells MONSTAR is worth the extra $1500, but it’s actually less than a $1596 difference. E-Cells does not charge for shipping in the continental U.S. and I believe no taxes charged for most states. If you use one of the discount codes from one of the affiliate e-bike reviewers on TH-cam, you can get an additional $100 off. With taxes and shipping, I paid a total of $2351.02 for my Wired Cruiser. The actual cost differential is $1150.00.
@EnergizedZonie at least you are not a total snob about the Wired bikes being better. Lol . But i must admit, 5-6 mph faster is a pretty big difference on bikes.
be patient JohnBabcock....trust me!!!
@@benhartland4708why is there gonna be a change soon
can you give a link to those mirrors ?
Hey Michal-Here is the Amazon link; a.co/d/ep5i8fe
So what was Steve's response? The latest headsets being used are the Hellbender 70 Visco's.
The response was very disappointing. Even though I mentioned I have the XR headset, I was “told” I have the Visco and that all I needed to do was tighten it down. I looked up a photo and description of the Hellbender 70 Visco headset. They are clearly 2 different headsets. The email from Wired may have been written by someone else other than Steve. The tone of the headset/throttle email response was rude and direct. A complete 180 from the response Steve sent me offering to replace my damaged right front brake lever assembly at no cost.
@@EnergizedZonie Yeah. That's not good. I don't think that I'd buy from them again unless they changed ownership or management.
@@luigiprovencher Yeah!! Steve S_cks the big one and so does wired.
@@macs4887 I would've bought eCells step-through if it would've come in green. Specially since there's at least one interview with the owner on TH-cam and probably none of the other two 🫏🤡's.
The e cell trolls are pathetic. The funny thing is the five star dual battery has a horrible death wobble, so much worse than the Freedom and they have no way to fix their underpowered clone because Wired has an exclusive on the Hellbender headset😂😂😂 th-cam.com/video/EBpmJcfPQqc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h4CHWuZu51GxY-KW
Is that front chain ring riveted or does it come apart? Sorry for blowing up your video with comments.
No worries. Happy to help if I can. The chainring is attached with allenhead bolts and is removable.
@@EnergizedZonie Nice. Thanks. It seems like the double sided guard is hard to find.
What size chain ring with the double guard would you need?
A 56 tooth chainring.
Hi were did u get ur mirrors from n how much
MEACHOW New Bar End Bike Mirror, Crystal UHD Automotive Grade Glass Lens E-Bike Mirrors, Scratch Resistant, Safe Rearview Mirrors, (Blue Left Side) ME-022LB. Purchased on Amazon.
I have a question if someone could answer please. I bought a Freedom recently and would like to get mirrors that come out of the handlebars similar to in this video. Does that caps on the ends of both handlebars pop out or off, or do they need to be cut out with like a knife? I have not been able to figure this out and do not want to start cutting. I tried loosening the screw near the end of the handlebars but am not sure about this. Appreciate in advance the information you can provide!
It’s just a plastic cap on the end, use a butter knife and pry it out
@@jfly2249 Thanks - just got the caps off using your suggestion about a butter knife - took a little jiggling but they finally came off. Am glad I used the butter knife per your suggestion rather than pliers as I was thinking to use...
How do you unlock the bike
Go into the settings menu using the settings button. Go to Class 2 setting and choose N or no. That unlocks everything.
If Jesus don't return this year this is the bike for me.
My bike is having a problem with the PAS and Throttle being unresponsive after putting it in PAS 1. Steve is making me jump through hoops to get it fixed. He wants me to diagnose it and take video of it like WTF? I don't want to do that and shouldn't have to do that. But apparently with what I've told him he can't narrow it down or doesn't believe me. It seems like he doesn't believe me to me but why would I lie about it?
Is it only happening in PAS 1 and not 2-5? If so, I wonder if you might be having an issue with your controller or your button cluster? If it was a loose electrical connection, it seems like it would affect every PAS level. I would hope Steve would offer to send you a replacement component or part that he suspects is causing the issue. Good luck getting the issue resolved. Please let me know how it turns out.
@@EnergizedZonie I don't know. I'm only noticing it when it's in 1 and pedaling and nothing happens and then I'll try the throttle and it's the same thing. No response. I usually have my phone in the phone holder so that means that I have to freeze and try to pull it out and try to take a video of it or just not put it in the holder so that I can try to take a video of it while it's happening but I don't think that I'm coordinated enough to do that so I might have to try to buy a cheap action camera to put on my chest just so I can show it to him. The Assist and Throttle lights are coming on when it happens and the voltage is showing but it's just the voltage from me pedalling not from the motor.
@luigiproencher-I’m sure you probably thought of this already, but is it possible you are in the lowest PAS level 0 instead of PAS 1? If so, the motor will not supply any power to the PAS or throttle if you are in PAS 0. Try PAS 2 and see if you get power from the motor.
@@EnergizedZonie Yeah. it's PAS 1 but I'll try 2 anyway.
If you ask Wired if their bikes can be used off road, they won't answer. 🤔
I don’t think no response is the right response. They could play it safe by quoting what is in the user guide to avoid any potential liability, if that is a concern for them.
once you purchase it you can use it anywhere you'd like, even underwater!