slightly modernizing my DSG

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  • @Alectfenrir123
    @Alectfenrir123 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a mega useful video for me to watch since my dsg gearset is coming on Monday and I'm going to outfit my vector with it.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck! lmk if you have any issues or concerns!

  • @j-airsoft
    @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video is too damn long
    ** wtf, i swear i had a caption at 25:16. That pinion is TOO DEEP.

    • @Dyeheartxfire
      @Dyeheartxfire ปีที่แล้ว

      TH-cam has been pushing long form dude. Embrace it

  • @undeRWorld-AirsofT
    @undeRWorld-AirsofT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are awesome! So glad I found your channel!

  • @belaklosterlein7506
    @belaklosterlein7506 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm just looking at this happy to have a HPA gun, I could never do this shit. Respect to those who can.

  • @maddgaming72
    @maddgaming72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved the breakdown defiantly gonna use it as inspiration for upgrading my stock aeg vector

  • @ThePropBender
    @ThePropBender ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:17 Yes, you will loose some volume, but only if you have full cylinder. If you have hole in your cylinder and your shimmed piston opens the hole anyway, you still have the same volume. Adding pad on piston head in gun with hole in cylinder leads to volume loss, shimming piston doesn't (as long as your piston head clears the hole, doesn't matter how much). With full cylinders you loose volume in both cases.

  • @willeudave7839
    @willeudave7839 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    built a great dsg off this platform had to replace the tappet plate and the cylinder head because that krytac padding is terrible. also cut the sector arl and bevel arl that reversed the gears when going to safe. prolly have about 3000 hours just on vectors

  • @danielvalente8139
    @danielvalente8139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good videos my friend, best discovery of 2024 so far

  • @extrajimified4557
    @extrajimified4557 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    was not expecting Ina's TOMORROW in this video.

  • @xx_banana_xx2484
    @xx_banana_xx2484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my tappet plate arm holding the nozzle doesn't have enough space to move back to let the tappet plate move forward, causing the tappet plate leg to bend still even after filing the channel down.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow, Krytac's QC for these shells must be really bad. I guess you'd be forced to remove material on that slot, too.

  • @felipeduarte1997
    @felipeduarte1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YEAHHH A NEW VIDEO!!!! AND ITS 44min :O lemme get them snacks to watch

  • @felipeduarte1997
    @felipeduarte1997 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 months later I'm rewatching this (I love teching video to get sleepy and your's are awesome hahahaha) and I have a doubt: After you milled the hole where the pin of the tappet goes, it could move further backwards, preventing it bending and even breaking the tappet. Then I tought about the piece that goes on the right side of the gearbox that link the tappet with the part that pushes the nozzle, the slight curve link (At 5:26, you can see, the part that goes on the channel below the wire sticker, that links the tappet with the nozzle thing)... If you filled the gearbox hole making room for the tappet to go further back, isn't it necessary to do that on the curve piece too? because the hole of the gearbox and the piece are the same, aren't they? If so, then the tappet go all the way to the back now, isntead of the gearbox making the tappet pin bend, now the curve linkage would do that, right? Hope you understand what I mean...

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I checked that as well, there's more space for the linkage to move than the pin

    • @felipeduarte1997
      @felipeduarte1997 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j-airsoft Ohhh thats awesome to read!! Nice!!

  • @kabloomo
    @kabloomo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey great vid man! I was wondering where you got shims for your motor shaft?

  • @Dougline_
    @Dougline_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a stock Kriss Vector that pisses me off when I try to spam the trigger and if half cycles, and I got a DSG gear laying around, your video are almost convincing me to do the same lmao But I also got a project of HPAing it with my own designed 3D printed "gearbox" (without laying the Polarstar engine diagonal, instead it will sit straight to the hop up just like an M4) because the main downside of this gun to me is the weight, so HPAing it would solve both problems, performance and a lot of weight reduction (cuz what weights a lot on this gun is the entire gearbox).

  • @jovannyfeliciano6604
    @jovannyfeliciano6604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can i ask what’s that thing looks like a syringe with the red top you were using when you were soldering the wires and what is it for?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The thingy that goes PLOP! ? Solder sucker, slurps up the liquid solder when cleaning a joint

    • @jovannyfeliciano6604
      @jovannyfeliciano6604 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@j-airsoft yea that lol

  • @cautiontap3
    @cautiontap3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what did you mean by silver ptfe? is that a superior wire? I don't know too much about electronics other than the dead basics of soldering and rewiring.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is anecdotal, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've had bad experiences with Perun's silicone stranded wiring. One instance, I swapped my leviathan out for a perun and clicker on my sr25, and the motor was being starved; I could hear it struggling to spin up to speed, and this is with the exact same shimming. My only explanation is silicone wiring in this gauge has too much resistance. Replaced with silver ptfe and my problems went away. It's also way easier to mold and route

  • @Cyfer1344-yf9ug
    @Cyfer1344-yf9ug 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome vid maybe now i am inspired to dust off my aeg vector and put it to use

  • @sausageofmarnies2799
    @sausageofmarnies2799 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah yes, the good ol broken tappet post in a DSG. You need to thin the tappet fin where the sector picks it up in order to keep that from happening, learned that one from my homie midwest tech. I made my own video on my vector after i got my set of mutations gears and my t238 where i show exactly what i mean ablut the tappet fin

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I may or may not be part of the group of people who started doing this early on

    • @Fatman-ze9dv
      @Fatman-ze9dv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wouldn't do that cuz if you shorten the side of the fin it won't pull back the nozzle 100% which results in feeding issues, you would then need to use a shorter than usual nozzle which in turn will result in poor nozzle-bucking seal. And in a dsg build eigther feeding issues or poor seal will break your neck

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fatman-ze9dv you're correct on a general v2 basis, but the issue stems from the different tappet cam spacing on the rocket dsg specifically

  • @Alfreggles
    @Alfreggles ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds great
    also you should do more longer vids if you can

  • @p_g2672
    @p_g2672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where did u learn the stuff abt optimal motor tpa, gear ratio, spring rate etc. i know the basics but how do u optimize. how do u find out what a good spring rate is for a specific set up etc??

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do not know what an optimal motor tpa is, I just prefer higher-ish TPA when working in brushed motors because I'm a sucker for torque.
      I pick the spring that pushes the piston fast enough to dodge PME and gives me enough energy out the muzzle

  • @karlolapuz3545
    @karlolapuz3545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think you could show us your workstation and some of the tools you use as well please?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My "workstation" is practically everything you see on camera here. It's a tiny little amazon basics desk next to my main computer desk, but I'll consider cleaning up a bit and showcasing my jank setup!

    • @karlolapuz3545
      @karlolapuz3545 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j-airsoft awesome man, can’t wait! love your videos, they’re fr like asmr to me lmaoooo

  • @daddymonandzeeabcede3880
    @daddymonandzeeabcede3880 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how much for the total upgrade?

  • @felipeduarte1997
    @felipeduarte1997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man, just rewatching the video... Do you remove the anti reversal latch from the sector? I know that Vector have 2 "levers" on the gears, one is the "normal" reversal latch and another one on the sector but I didnt saw it on the video. How does the mechanism work when you put it on safe, to release the gears?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is no such thing as a sector ARL in this vector gearbox, you're probably talking about the cutoff lever. I do not remove it, it's required for the ETU to detect cycles

  • @theforgottenairsoft7634
    @theforgottenairsoft7634 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im very new to AEG tech work, why wouldn't you replace all the bushings with bearings instead of just a few?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      In higher stress builds, the spur's larger side's bearings tend to explode due to the forces it gets subjected to so I don't put bearings there for anything spicy. The bevel on the other hand is on the speed side of the gear ratio so it doesn't experience nearly as high shock or force so he's fine to be bearings. That's also the gear that benefits the most from bearings. The other gears spin about one time a cycle and MUCH slower. My sr25 only pulls an sp120 so it's all bearings.

  • @LindsaySarver
    @LindsaySarver ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you learn to do and understand all of this?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love tinkering, so this much is pretty normal. Airsoft gearboxes aren't actually that complicated. Just a few gears spinning, some springs, and orings.

  • @christianvillarroel980
    @christianvillarroel980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would you ever sell this gun or possibly create a similar build with the same vector base? im interested lol

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would, but commissions are currently closed, sorry!!

    • @christianvillarroel980
      @christianvillarroel980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@j-airsoft is there any way i could contact u somewhere else? Instagram or something?

    • @christianvillarroel980
      @christianvillarroel980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@j-airsoft let me know pls. i really like this build and im interested. THank u

  • @grotwurksmekshop6607
    @grotwurksmekshop6607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have any links to the tools you use?

  • @rucie13
    @rucie13 ปีที่แล้ว

    beginning of video i think i will build a vector 20 mins in you know what i dont think i will.

  • @willeudave7839
    @willeudave7839 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    also you are wrong about compressible volume with the shim tho

  • @6mmCustoms
    @6mmCustoms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uhhh howd you get binary

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Perun's ETU, you can program semi through five rd burst and binary per fire mode.

    • @6.5x14
      @6.5x14 ปีที่แล้ว

      👋

    • @6mmCustoms
      @6mmCustoms ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@6.5x14 👋i figured out the perun thing on the v2. Hesitant to do it on a brushless motor though

  • @307md
    @307md ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you had any magazine feeding issues with the max unit? I had one and I had to be picky about which mags I used. It was a great hop up unit otherwise.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      no issues, but i have Maple super feeds in these mags

  • @felipeduarte1997
    @felipeduarte1997 ปีที่แล้ว

    J! Do you have a Discord Channel? Cant enter the link on your YT channel...

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      The link on my channel just goes to discord's website, the title of the link is my username

  • @glee0425
    @glee0425 ปีที่แล้ว

    should have you work on my airsoft gun. its like 6 years old. all i know it has a BTC Spectre MK2 mosfet. the rest i dont remember

  • @B1RUHGAMING
    @B1RUHGAMING 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your hopup did you need to modify it in anyway ?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nope, I modified the shell instead. A lot of filing to get a square notch to fit it

  • @NathanVariety
    @NathanVariety 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What stock is that I really like it.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it was a strike industries stock. Got it off evike.

  • @freewings2188
    @freewings2188 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would you recommend to get a vector quieter? Im getting one soon and would like to do some small ish upgrades to make is quieter as i dont want everyone to know where i am. Would shimming be enough or do you recommend other things.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for an aeg, shim everything that has a gear, use a helical bevel/pinion, weaker spring and slower cycle for the longer dwell time, use rubber pads for aoe instead of plastic shims to dampen the piston slap, get the right volume ratio so you don't generate a massive pop out the front or find a muzzle solution to absorb extra energy

    • @freewings2188
      @freewings2188 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got it thanks

  • @кяуртіс
    @кяуртіс ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatd you actually solder on the board, that confused me.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I just replaced the original wires, they were nasty

  • @exileaviation
    @exileaviation ปีที่แล้ว

    If I do a dsg with my build, should I get the lonex spiral or keep everything stock except for the sector gear?

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      if you're doing a budget build just the sector, but if you're going premium definitely get a spiral

    • @exileaviation
      @exileaviation ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j-airsoft all I'm worried about is having to mill the gearbox. I have the tools to mill, but I want to avoid if I can

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exileaviation that's a good point! I'll be honest my shimming isn't as good as I'd like it to be because I didn't mill the bevel slot deeper, but you can get the same sound as me without that

  • @ericksanchezbonnet1831
    @ericksanchezbonnet1831 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the blue thing on the gearbox?

  • @ReportedPerson
    @ReportedPerson ปีที่แล้ว

    why 360p only :c ?

    • @felipeduarte1997
      @felipeduarte1997 ปีที่แล้ว

      video is processing by TH-cam itself. wait a few minutes and then refresh the page :)

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Felipe is correct, it's quite a long video and so it takes awhile to ready the 1080p version for you guys. I actually meant to schedule the release so it'd be ready to go by the time you see it, but I misclicked 😛 And my tech videos are like 2x zoom so it looks even worse without the 1080 canvas 😭

  • @punk8570
    @punk8570 ปีที่แล้ว

    that tappet plate mod is so weird.

  • @TheAngryAstronomer
    @TheAngryAstronomer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man takes his screwdrivers seriously.

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've gotten tired of screwing myself with crappy ones. Never again!

    • @sithknight7740
      @sithknight7740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j-airsoftwhat screwdrivers are they? Might snag some myself and give my old ones to family

    • @j-airsoft
      @j-airsoft  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sithknight7740 brand is Wera, I like all of their stuff

  • @isaccobonomini3027
    @isaccobonomini3027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be carefoul with that piston head,it usually cracks

  • @ilchiane87
    @ilchiane87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do u use that cylinder. Is not better to use a cylinder with hole more near to cylinder head? i take into consideration the lenght of your inner barrel

    • @exileaviation
      @exileaviation ปีที่แล้ว

      the piston never touches the actual port because it doesn't pull back as far so it has no effect

  • @xerotwo3920
    @xerotwo3920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first view and comment lets goooo

  • @danielvalente8139
    @danielvalente8139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good videos my friend, best discovery of 2024 so far