Don't SLEEP On HERACLES

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  • @WildArtistsl
    @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +746

    The moment he told Gilgamesh in fake strange to pull out EA was epic

    • @dinogt8477
      @dinogt8477 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no one cares

    • @willieswolley7311
      @willieswolley7311 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      @@samukajabateh1640 honestly Hercules with his mind intact is a scary concept.

    • @skeletonnoise6178
      @skeletonnoise6178 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Seemed like he just wanted to yoik away EA or attempt too

    • @dinklepiss
      @dinklepiss ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@dinogt8477 I care

    • @theresnothinghereatall
      @theresnothinghereatall ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dinklepiss You're no one

  • @APrinnyDood
    @APrinnyDood ปีที่แล้ว +363

    Gotta love how it's canon Greece has never had a grail war cuz someone always summons him and everyone else says "im out" cuz there he gets even more powers, plus support from the gods of Olympus🤣

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +199

      Him being summoned in Greece is like BB in the moon cell. Actually game-breaking

    • @SergioBocanegra
      @SergioBocanegra ปีที่แล้ว +87

      So if a grail war happens in Ireland Cú will finally get the glory he deserves

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @SergioBocanegra though my main man Cú would be pretty op, its not like he's without weakness (offering him the flesh of a dog would be more than enough, he must accept hospitality, and is cursed if he eats dog meat), and many other irish servants are incredibly powerful as well.
      And either way, he has the luck of a lancer, and the luck of the irish, if its above an F he'll be doing quite well.

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      ok but for real now, I'd love to see a greek holy grail war where at least half the field is just different forms of Heracles, with the rest being straight up greek gods (maybe with Hades as a ruler just to keep things in check with the sheer ammount of power going around)

    • @risekujikawa7763
      @risekujikawa7763 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You know the greek wars are in a bad spot when fucking Achilles himself is still an Auto lose since that means someone has Herc

  • @amongoose1087
    @amongoose1087 ปีที่แล้ว +1074

    Hercules fans explaining how he could solo the whole war:

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +170

      As princess Illya put it: BASAKA SEKAI SEIKO!

    • @b-lotus5145
      @b-lotus5145 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@WildArtistsl BASAKA WA SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI DAKARA

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@b-lotus5145 thank-you!

    • @dinogt8477
      @dinogt8477 ปีที่แล้ว

      rat

    • @Maaseruu
      @Maaseruu ปีที่แล้ว +89

      he actually can, have you played grail front?

  • @theredheadrevolution4156
    @theredheadrevolution4156 ปีที่แล้ว +416

    Another reason I think he was able to break through Enkidu the way he was, is in one of his legends, he broke through similar chains made by gods meant to restrain a TITAN, in this case prometheus. So, as it's part of his legend, no matter how small, I genuinely believe heracles will ALWAYS have the capacity to break the chains of heaven, it's just MUCH harder when he's using divinity.

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +73

      I totally forgot that. CONCIDERING what the Olympics 12 were mecha monsters originally he's a menace

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@Sc7ut Nah, it is purely a reflection of his indomitable will. In 20 years Nasu still has not claimed there is any other reason but “He was just that good”, and this is the man who literally clarified details like “Archer secretly used a second Rho Aias to protect Shirou from Gil” to explain something no one asked.

    • @Gareth-daupsetpuppy
      @Gareth-daupsetpuppy ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Enkidu works more on heroic spirits with divinity, the higher the divinity the stronger/tighter the chains are, but If they are not of divinity but normal super human like Heracles to which he gave up his divinity after the use of his last life to easily break away from the chains of heaven/Enkidu. That’s how I see It

    • @alrescha3429
      @alrescha3429 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Alcides should be able to break Enkidu without problem. It's just a tough chain if the target is not divine.

    • @_BBAGG_
      @_BBAGG_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alrescha3429 Gilgamesh has wrapped enkidu around his own arm while using it to restrain normal foes as if they had Divinity.

  • @ventiisthebestfemboi8566
    @ventiisthebestfemboi8566 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    God of war Heracles - BRO PLS STOP WERE BROTHERS PLS STOP PUNCHING ME
    Fate Heracles -BUILT DIFFERENT

    • @wzx6x6z6w
      @wzx6x6z6w ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well tbf, Kratos' character was created loosely based on Heracles' myths, he's what Heracles in GoW supposed to be.

  • @amakaqueru33
    @amakaqueru33 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    In strange fake, everyone is overpower, so everything balances each other.

    • @regirock7313
      @regirock7313 ปีที่แล้ว

      Humbaba
      Gilgamesh
      Enkidu
      Alcides
      Horseman of Plague
      Jack The Ripper
      King Richard
      Hippolyta
      Alexandre Dumas
      Hassan Candidate
      Watcher
      Prelati Male
      Hassan-I-Sabbah
      Nothing but insane

    • @ahkilleuskosmos6836
      @ahkilleuskosmos6836 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I mean given the line up, Alcides may actually be on the mid to lower end of that scale, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Humbaba, Ishtar, and oh right, Gugalanna, are all stronger than him.

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@ahkilleuskosmos6836 and his true self is stronger and less arrogant than Alcides

    • @phantasosxgames8488
      @phantasosxgames8488 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ahkilleuskosmos6836 yes.
      But in a way , Alcides is perfect for that HGW , because he can steal NPs.

    • @unkown981
      @unkown981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@durrangodsgrief6503but his true self also got that divinity which makes him vulnerable to gill’s chains

  • @ThePatxiao
    @ThePatxiao ปีที่แล้ว +211

    It says something that Heracles is so crazy in canon that his actions in the complete comedy series AREN'T EXAGGERATIONS.

  • @TheWcasey
    @TheWcasey ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Natsu had to have fun coming up with all these busted concepts for Heroic Spirits and then placing woefully under prepared protagonists in front front of them

    • @Omega-uc7wl
      @Omega-uc7wl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol

  • @Archetype784
    @Archetype784 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    The length of the video goes to show how much you shouldn’t sleep on heracles

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Unless you want demigod children....

    • @Pandach_1
      @Pandach_1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Damn dude while I'm listening to this I read your comment and I checked: HOLY SHIIIIIIIT

    • @erenkruger5760
      @erenkruger5760 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well that's more because he appears in a lot of fate stories a and is always a major character in all of them
      If he wasn't a major character (either Ally or Villain) he was dying off screen to some BS god hacks like Artemis cannon lmfao

    • @allthatishere
      @allthatishere ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I get that he's strong, but he repeatedly gets clapped in literally every arc.

    • @Lost_North
      @Lost_North ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@allthatishere That may be true, but only when he is put in almost impossible situations. Sakura and an infinite mana Saber-Alt, at the same time, and he still fought for a LONG time.

  • @freshjnew
    @freshjnew ปีที่แล้ว +669

    Don't sleep on Gilgamesh- 38 minutes
    Don't sleep on Heracles- 42 minutes
    Herc wins

    • @4bidden953
      @4bidden953 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nah I refuse XDDD

    • @Gareth-daupsetpuppy
      @Gareth-daupsetpuppy ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Only If Herc wasn’t ever held back, but we all should be well aware that IF Gilgamesh actually wanted to win the grail war he’d easily win It the night or two when It starts but hey It’s Gil, I’d say both are good In their own area’s of what they can do

    • @willieswolley7311
      @willieswolley7311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alispeed5095 your right but still the third grail war was metal.

    • @keithunderwood8803
      @keithunderwood8803 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Funny cuz most of gilgamesh's don't sleep on him video is about him bodying Heracles multiple times.

    • @jimmytuplano3843
      @jimmytuplano3843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alispeed5095 yeah no joke yhey just nerf heracles/hercules so much it just down grade plot situation but they did show how broken herc was in his archer class so broken he can rival the god/calamity fate servant and more and they just nerf him

  • @ThePaeppa
    @ThePaeppa ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Not to forget he's the only father figure in Stay Night that doesn't need a prequel to explain why they missing

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      his greatest power

    • @emiyashirou1858
      @emiyashirou1858 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude says that like it's a bad thing lmao, a lot of character in zero is cool, plus it expands on what stay night left on air

    • @ThePaeppa
      @ThePaeppa ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@emiyashirou1858 Zero is probably the best in the cycle and papa Emiya/Tohsaka are both pretty cool characters. Heracles is just... Simpler... Which fits pretty good with a simpleminded murder golem I think. Anyway, I wasn't trying to slander the other Fate dads(Even if Heracles is my favourite). They're p cool

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I feel like this title should be sent to Type-Moon. They've done nothing but sleep on Heracles for years. Berserker Heracles in original Fate was cool (if not used often for the Worf Effect). And I appreciate what Strange/Fake has been doing overall. But this is arguably the most famous mythological figure on the planet. There should be way more examples of what this guy can do when sane and in other classes.

  • @aarongeorge4885
    @aarongeorge4885 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Believe it or not, his berserker form is him at his weakest.

    • @Markcus003
      @Markcus003 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Will technically berserker in media as a whole is the weakest version of a (insert character) because they lose their rationale in exchange for pure raw power.

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@Markcus003 and like every other classes, it depends on who as well. Ashvattman for example is unstoppable if he ever summoned as a Berserker.
      And like you pointed out, it could also mean that a Berserker capable of reason is more dangerous than your average berserker

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Markcus003 Lancelot berserker is equal to saber Lancelot but Lancelot is a special case

    • @GC-Shadow1327
      @GC-Shadow1327 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I dunno, I heard he would have been un-hesitant to slaughter his master if he/she (unless its a child) dared to summon him as an Assassin or Rider. Must be some deep shame for him to be against those classes while being okay with being Berserker.

    • @erenkruger5760
      @erenkruger5760 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yea a lot of people don't know this and always assume Berserker is Hercs strongest class

  • @altirius
    @altirius ปีที่แล้ว +95

    who tf is sleeping on freakin Hercules lol

    • @WildArtistsl
      @WildArtistsl ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Um his wife and to be honest I can't blame her

    • @francisong94
      @francisong94 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      More like he's giving his old man a run for his money based on the number of people they have sleept on

    • @ahkilleuskosmos6836
      @ahkilleuskosmos6836 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I mean you say that, but my mans also made a video called Don’t Sleep on Gilgamesh, so at this point I’m almost 100% sure it’s just the title of his series.

    • @Gareth-daupsetpuppy
      @Gareth-daupsetpuppy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just dont sleep on any servants In particular Its the best thing about his channel Including every other video’s Tsiah posts

    • @Gareth-daupsetpuppy
      @Gareth-daupsetpuppy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just dont sleep on any servants In particular Its the best thing about his channel Including every other video’s Tsiah posts

  • @yaboigamerdouji7573
    @yaboigamerdouji7573 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    It had to be done. The OG Berserker. The Greek 0 to Hero.

  • @elbowpastatime
    @elbowpastatime ปีที่แล้ว +155

    My first 4star servant when I started fgo. I've been wide awake on the boy for the almost a decade.
    God bless Heracles.

    • @trontosaurusrex9532
      @trontosaurusrex9532 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Sc7ut Hope you get Herc and either Emyia or Carmilla in the same roll.

    • @ZeroRequiemDX
      @ZeroRequiemDX ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here bro, same here

    • @ZeroRequiemDX
      @ZeroRequiemDX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@YamiKaiba because his currently at his weakest class, he would have been 5 if he was summoned as an Archer

    • @adzhanitristan6756
      @adzhanitristan6756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trontosaurusrex9532 wait Carmilla is good?

    • @trontosaurusrex9532
      @trontosaurusrex9532 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adzhanitristan6756 yeah she's pretty solid. Her anti female bonus on her NP helps her do decent damage against enemies that aren't Riders. She's pretty useful,and helped me alot when I started.

  • @luckyowl10
    @luckyowl10 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    someone: Heracles is OP
    Heracles: I am not OP, I am the power and no one is over me

    • @ShinyAzzy
      @ShinyAzzy ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thia,Gugalana,Gilgamesh,Enkidu, and pale rider: Stop the cap

    • @Psvu636
      @Psvu636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@ShinyAzzy he one shotted gugulana.

    • @ShinyAzzy
      @ShinyAzzy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Psvu636 Thats Alcides who is stacked with Anti divine stuff

    • @Psvu636
      @Psvu636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ShinyAzzy nah just the hydra venom

    • @ShinyAzzy
      @ShinyAzzy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Psvu636 Read it again lmao

  • @cidlunius1076
    @cidlunius1076 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "This is some real Black Airforce Energy" had me reeling

  • @tavoa952
    @tavoa952 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fate heracles is by far my favorite version of heracles adaptation, because it is the only one I have seen that does justice to his mythological version, the fact that he is so strong and skilled in combat that his weakest class is the one where he sacrifices his skill in order to give it more strength (which is not very useful because it is already ridiculously strong on its own) is something that I love, because Heracles was the greatest Roman and Greek hero (who valued strength, wisdom and intelligence equally). It's a breath of fresh air compared to the Western media, where he is portrayed as a brainless brute.

  • @megamaniak27
    @megamaniak27 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When madness enhancement is more of a nerf than a boost, being the strongest AND the smartest bro is literally kratos

  • @francisong94
    @francisong94 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    I think one of the saddest thing about Heracles and Medea is that their friendship was never shown.
    From what I've read, after leaving Jason, Medea helped Heracles cure the madness Hera set on him.
    Some time after, Heracles basically kept Medea safe in his kingdom but was forced to let her go because of her reputation.

    • @ajharris2690
      @ajharris2690 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being honest there is a chance that he may get hit by ruelbreaker on purpose if he was sane but it might not even work because of God hand's

    • @erenkruger5760
      @erenkruger5760 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yep honestly it kinda irks me that in the ubw route Rin mentioned when they wanted to team up with Illya because Archer switched to Medea's team that Medea and Herc hated each other.... Bruh

    • @deepsoul8034
      @deepsoul8034 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@erenkruger5760 Medea doesn’t hate Hercules, she just doesn’t like muscular men (no seriously). It’s all but implied that she is just neutral to him, she doesn’t dislike him but she doesn’t like him either

    • @erenkruger5760
      @erenkruger5760 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@deepsoul8034 yes I know that what I meant in my comment was Rin telling Shirou that Medea hates Herc in UBW when they were going to illya's mansion

    • @rikajougasaki3296
      @rikajougasaki3296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In FGO, Medea Lily is fond of Heracles. Regular Medea just wants those muscles away as always.

  • @Pandach_1
    @Pandach_1 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I'm so happy I sat here listening to Tsiah praise Heracles for an hour 😁

  • @jasonrobinson6084
    @jasonrobinson6084 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of my favorite things about Berzerkules' design is the way they mashed up Hercules/Heracles with the Nemean lion, he doesn't need weapons, and neither did the lion, they're both immune to weapons forged by man, and both have wild, animalistic instincts and senses, which is also somewhat inline with his original legend, he could only beat it by doing so at it's own game, a lot like Beowulf, actually.
    I've heard roman generals would admonish unruly soldiers by saying that, if they think they don't need the aid of the military weapons and support in battle, then they should charge in naked with a stick, like Hercules.

  • @KellyCalKelsey
    @KellyCalKelsey ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I just made a post on Reddit where I commented that I wanted to see Tsiah make a “Don’t SLEEP on HERACLES” video and low and behold, we finally get justice for our man Herc.

  • @elodiealaya
    @elodiealaya ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The biggest implication about him tanking LB Artemis is that Nasu makes a very clear distinction between "Anti-World" and "Anti-Planet". "Anti-World" tears through the layers that are on each planet, like the Far Side of the World for instance. Anti-Planet, which was LB Artemis, straight-up obliterates everything, layers be damned. And he STILL took it.

    • @rgama1173
      @rgama1173 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HE toke it twice

  • @TheBitingBat
    @TheBitingBat ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Heracles is so damn busted strong in fate that his berserker version is considered one of the strongest servants you can possibly summon and it's his WEAKEST version. He literally has none of his tactics or rational, he's bodying people left and right while being literally insane. He is running the ones on pure instinct

    • @kristianschuff1723
      @kristianschuff1723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or his weapons
      Side note for fgo players you know that sword thing castoria uses in her 3rd ascension that is stupidly broken? Yeah, that was originally Hercs sword.

  • @kinzolewis6753
    @kinzolewis6753 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Let's have a moment to talk about how this video is longer than the dont sleep on gilgamesh video

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They do think highly of each other, its only natural it comes close.

  • @flameon8262
    @flameon8262 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm not sleeping on Heracles, I wanna sleep WITH Heracles

    • @swiggydswirl330
      @swiggydswirl330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You stay back, me first 😤

    • @yee798
      @yee798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aw hell nahw

    • @pitvalsex7318
      @pitvalsex7318 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@swiggydswirl330calm guys, herc got space for us all at the same time

  • @drakonemperor144
    @drakonemperor144 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Axe I literally made of rocks. Truly an unga bunga moment

  • @Batman-yp8nm
    @Batman-yp8nm ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You’re basically saying, the only thing that can defeat, this man is plot

  • @dgl0611
    @dgl0611 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tsiah please I haven’t slept in days

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As you shouldn't

  • @Marcosantoniothebluecreator
    @Marcosantoniothebluecreator ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that carnival phantasm is on the example list

  • @matty8014
    @matty8014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The ace of the "should have been a 5 star" club

  • @mikununi-vers
    @mikununi-vers ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hercules is Best boy. He is right up there with Karna and Asterios.

  • @VinceTheCreatorr
    @VinceTheCreatorr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hercules is like Dbz Broly. Big as fuck but still maintains his speed.

  • @leonardoospino3497
    @leonardoospino3497 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I like about his master in strange fake is that he knows well his myth, everybody boast on Heracles stats that are great but it was his intellect and strategy what made him the greatest, he didn´t brute force his way to victory hence he should be able to take down stronger opponents. in his myth he was many times the underdog

  • @toni_sushi7164
    @toni_sushi7164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    one of the most terrifying and intimidating characters ive ever seen

  • @sleepylmguy9968
    @sleepylmguy9968 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Let’s go! It’s finally time for the OG Berserker! All these new fake Berserkers wannabes better run. As Cjdachamp once said that DBZ Broly was the Giga-n***a 9000. I hereby declare Heracles as the Ultra-n***a 12000! If you object take it up with him. He ain’t got a pair of Black Air Forces. That cause he doesn’t need them he is Black Air Forces incarnate! You know he’s at the BAF round table in the Fate verse. He’s probably the leader.

    • @sleepylmguy9968
      @sleepylmguy9968 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PS: I just thought of something. So technically in his Berserker form he actually had two NPs right? His base one being his 12-labors. Giving him 12 lives. But also technically his 9-lives NP. Now the only problem since he’s a Berserker with Mad-Enhancement. He’s not mentally prepared to use it right? My question, Why didn’t Illy just use one of her Command Seals to Force him to activate it at anytime/fight!? Kinda like how Berserker Lancelot can disguise himself as an enemy if his master commands it. That would help out with so much trouble! Damn Illy is dumb.
      PSS: Also just want to say that Berserk vs Salter fight is still to me, one of the best things to came out of the HF film trilogy. I think they show off what both these top tier Servents could do excellently. That’s what a fight between Servents/Heroics Spirits should look like! Imagine that irl.

    • @ThePaeppa
      @ThePaeppa ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Herc got them Black Air Sandals from Mt. Olympus, hand-crafted by the Gods to even **TRY** and match his sheer menace energy

    • @elgatto3133
      @elgatto3133 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah leader of the forces in fate gotta be kirei but herc definitely on the council

  • @ShinyAzzy
    @ShinyAzzy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And proto heracles is just broken so much so that nasu had to change his god hand to 11 promised Victory to 11 lives as he is considered a "being that cannot lose" and he only died because gilgamesh proto has an np that makes him "certain to live"

  • @soulscion1022
    @soulscion1022 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can we get a don’t sleep on Tamamo-No-Mae I want to see she can do.

  • @emsmx3690
    @emsmx3690 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's finally here 🙏🏾

  • @lazharsassi6573
    @lazharsassi6573 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was waiting for this since the "Don't sleep on..." Series started.♥️

  • @Triforce_Gardian
    @Triforce_Gardian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The more you find out about the 5th Grail War Servants, the more you realize all of them could solo the war under the right conditions. I just believe Herc is the one that requires the least conditions to do so, and I’m a Sasaki fan lol

  • @thomasmcgraw8778
    @thomasmcgraw8778 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I forget who said this but someone posted a video and put him st the tip top of A tier, calling him the benchmark for Ex tier. I will accept that answer

  • @LRomo12_YT
    @LRomo12_YT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heracles is the definition of “lite work no reaction”

  • @GodShadowdeath
    @GodShadowdeath ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hercules- despite being the strongest servant the devs cant let him win a fight

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He beat EMIYA but true. Its not an uncommon trope with the strongest characters

    • @damiansaturday6788
      @damiansaturday6788 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      then again Berserker is Heracles', weakest class, while everyone else is in their strongest except Sasaki, Artoria, as saber, Emiya as archer, Cu as lancer, Medea as caster, and Medusa as Rider, though both Artoria and Medusa were nerfed because of their masters, Herc was starting off with a major handicap

    • @GodShadowdeath
      @GodShadowdeath ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@damiansaturday6788 Imagine if illya summoned him as an archer and rin summoned emiya as a berserker the war would be over in 5 minutes

    • @damiansaturday6788
      @damiansaturday6788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GodShadowdeath true,

    • @emiyashirou1858
      @emiyashirou1858 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aviniciussouza100 I mean can YOU win against him? 😂 As far as I can tell you're just a scrub behind a screen talking smack about a figure that symbolise growth and strength, being well known throughout the entire planet as a heroic figure, unless you can get the level of accomplishment that topped of him or even the most insignificant of historical figure around the globe i'd suggest you shut your bum ass up

  • @ontothemartin4684
    @ontothemartin4684 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    We are not the ones sleeping on him, is the series itself ridiculing each chance it had just because he is never "the main good/bad guy". In FSN he is just used as a foil to show how strong other people are by comparing to him (Archer can give him a fight and take half his lives, Artoria with hax almost entirely obliterates him, Gil can no diff him, Shirou in his weakest can create a perfect copy of Camiburn to take more than half his lives, etc). His is more of a big punching bag that only had real relevance on the first days just to introduce Illya as a potential menace and that's it. He literally has been nerfed since the very beginning of his appearance.
    Early Fate and FGO has been very unfair with one of the greatest Greek heroes.
    Later FGO and Fate works have been a lot more fair with him and his feats.

    • @flygonkerel781
      @flygonkerel781 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well we do have the bad ends

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Artoria with hax? What are you even talking about? Full power Artoria still beats a full powered Herc bruh, no question about it.

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HachannEinzbern People like you really be sleeping on Saber Alter ngl. She can boost her strength to be on the same level as Herc, and Salter having D rank Agility doesn’t mean anything when not even Medusa ranking it down to E rank with her mystic eyes could blitz her. So no, Saber Alter does not need the Shadow to beat Herc, she just took advantage of the situation since the Shadow does what it wants.

    • @tavoa952
      @tavoa952 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@yancgc5098 *nearly gets rekt by shirou *

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HachannEinzbern You can’t just focus on stats like that mate. For one, higher Agility doesn’t necessarily mean the Servant is faster. Saber had C rank Agility and yet she’s still faster than Sasaki with his A+ rank Agility. Saber Alter has a lower rank of Agility, but she’s still faster for the simple fact that Saber under Shirou always has to hold back her power and energy usage, while Saber Alter can just propel herself with Mana Burst at full speed constantly without the worry of using up her energy reserves. Second of all, you putting too much weight on a rank down of Instinct when that barely matters, it’s still a B rank and doesn’t affect her in any meaningful way. It has been said that Saber Alter’s strength is equal to Herc’s on account of her just upping her Mana Burst, and that was clearly shown even in the movies.
      Rider is not the weakest servant in the war by far. Have you seen her in HF? She can go toe to toe with a fully powered Saber for a long period of time. Rider would be the weakest if her Master is Shinji, but under Sakura she’s the fastest servant in the war and can utilize her Monstrous Strength skill and Mystic Eyes to make herself a formidable foe against everyone else in the war.
      To top this all off, love how you mention OG Saber couldn’t keep up with Herc when that was her being heavily nerfed by Shirou. OG Saber with Rin as her Master would mop the floor with Herc.

  • @MagiaBased
    @MagiaBased ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I want a Fate Story where the main Servant is a sane Herc (idc which class tbh) I mean even in Strange we don't get the real him

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Would be interesting to see an uncorrupted Saber or Lancer version. It seems like he's cursed to always have a tweaked summoning.

    • @micah_-iv7li
      @micah_-iv7li ปีที่แล้ว +2

      grand saber herc lmao

    • @unkown981
      @unkown981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@micah_-iv7liwe both no he can’t be grand saner that spot is reserved for an artoria face 😂

  • @lordblackstar3272
    @lordblackstar3272 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His alter is one of my favorite servants and I meant alcides

  • @marunaa
    @marunaa ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for this one

  • @aditghifari5039
    @aditghifari5039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The moment hercules become sane, its was saddest moment or rare moment to be see.

  • @Mordeiv
    @Mordeiv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact that his Berserker feats aren't even jackshit for the feats he could do in any of his other forms where his mind is intact.

  • @elgoblinax8796
    @elgoblinax8796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That moment when he crossed hundreds of meters in a sec in heavens fell's was majestic

  • @BRockSurvival
    @BRockSurvival ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Let’s go HERACLES!

  • @yourassistant981
    @yourassistant981 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was not expecting a 42 minute video that's for sure.

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You and me both

  • @hyrulezomby6828
    @hyrulezomby6828 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tsiah: don’t sleep Heracles
    Me: who in there dang mind would sleep on this beast?!?!

  • @mrmagma5856
    @mrmagma5856 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So you telling me that this guy… this guy is a four star in Fate Grand Order?!?

    • @SairinEarthsea
      @SairinEarthsea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup and that makes him harder to get because 4 stars don't have a pity system.

  • @weirdowitheyes7910
    @weirdowitheyes7910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this Guy

  • @communityreader4867
    @communityreader4867 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Watching kratos beat the shit out of Hercules and seeing this video drop is the best.

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Imagine summoning Kratos as a servant

    • @Gareth-daupsetpuppy
      @Gareth-daupsetpuppy ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Kratos would either be an Avenger or Berserker but Avenger for the best, also extra damage to zeus to the utmost

    • @sleepylmguy9968
      @sleepylmguy9968 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine Kratos comes to the fate universe, looking for round 2. But instead of the GOW version he runs into This big ass version.

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Gareth-daupsetpuppy young kratos is avenger, older kratos is berserker with sanity intact.

    • @aayushdasgupta
      @aayushdasgupta ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sleepylmguy9968 To be fair, the GOW version is about the same size as the Fate version. But other than that, it would be an epic fight between the both of them.

  • @erenkruger5760
    @erenkruger5760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayo a 42 minute banger? Nice

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Movie time

  • @azureflame6117
    @azureflame6117 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm pretty sure it was established that he was op as F@$& after he jumped towards someone and broke the sound barrier in the process.

  • @yokoyokome5281
    @yokoyokome5281 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She's just shooting marshmallows at him. Damn man idk where you be coming up with the lines

  • @ajaniwhite1311
    @ajaniwhite1311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the way he explains it. He sounds so hype 😂

  • @dragonknigthomega8731
    @dragonknigthomega8731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hercules the HIM of type moon

  • @DeadMasterMusic
    @DeadMasterMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait for him to explain lostbelt 5.5

  • @GC-Shadow1327
    @GC-Shadow1327 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yosh!!! Another great vid I've been waiting for, a noble prize for this golden effort of yours is not enough justice, Thanks!
    Now I understand why two insanely powerful servants of Stay Night (Gilgamesh and Salter) had to use under-handed tactics to beat him. That said though, I still want to see what he is really like under his true form.

    • @yancgc5098
      @yancgc5098 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Salter would've still beaten Herc even without the Shadow, and Herc doesn't stand a chance against Gil unless he's summoned as an Archer.

    • @GC-Shadow1327
      @GC-Shadow1327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yancgc5098 Would've, Could've, Should've. All hypothetical descriptions, all that matters to me are what were shown. On-screen display results clearly convince me she cheaped out in her victory.

  • @reaps2661
    @reaps2661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how we spent most of the video talking about the nerfed weaker version of him

  • @emiyashirou1858
    @emiyashirou1858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is fated, the moment I played fgo I got him, a triple Invincibility CE, a triple evasion at the same time and eventually his bond CE , it's the closest I got to the original true Heracles

  • @whatever9900
    @whatever9900 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lettsss gooo where did you get the Fgo manga?

  • @Gojiradogzillagodzilla
    @Gojiradogzillagodzilla ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro i'm listened to this like a podcast for 43 minutes, and when it ended, all i could think was "Bro what the fuck?"

  • @milindsharma317
    @milindsharma317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last time I was this early Angra was still alive

  • @holoenjoyer8470
    @holoenjoyer8470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean if its aclides, then it's quite likely other than Gils ea being in the way of that.

  • @dinoafridi
    @dinoafridi ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is my workout "music."

  • @johngrant8390
    @johngrant8390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heracles is the definition of Black Air Force energy

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Big Stepper!!

  • @blckorb6322
    @blckorb6322 ปีที่แล้ว

    LETS GOOOO

  • @franciscoarzapalozapata4610
    @franciscoarzapalozapata4610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BASAKA WA DARE NI MO MAKENAI SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI DAKARA!

  • @MilenAnessar
    @MilenAnessar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And all of these, at his NERFED state! This is beyond OP!!

  • @adrianwhite3119
    @adrianwhite3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hold this ex 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he's a straight goon and that's being generous well explained sir.

  • @zoroarkmasterofilluison5701
    @zoroarkmasterofilluison5701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do Tamamo-No-Mae next I'd love to see a video on her in some way

  • @ajharris2690
    @ajharris2690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    here are 2 win cons for the war bazet being alive and media getting here beset is broken and has a connection to cu's dad so they would understand how to work together more than any other person in the war except rin and emiya bazet one one of the stronges masters and they can practicly one shot most people except herk and autoria and for madia getting here the only question is how long she could control her but if ilyia can revive one of his lives in 3 day then whats going to happen when media has him she might be able to do it in minutes.

  • @radityarifki957
    @radityarifki957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do don't sleep on all shiki

  • @jsansdream6860
    @jsansdream6860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This the last and I mean very last servant anyone is sleeping on

  • @FoxfireDraven
    @FoxfireDraven ปีที่แล้ว

    car heracles is the biggest feat

  • @jblueslush8474
    @jblueslush8474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm shitting my pants if I'm in a holy grail war with heracles.

  • @aphantom.7165
    @aphantom.7165 ปีที่แล้ว

    alright, alright, but, tsiah, my man
    we gotta respect the Angra mainyu

  • @4bidden953
    @4bidden953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:07 Ngl I thought bro was about to say ''Just like shirou, he blow her back out''. Im sorrry man XDDD

  • @user-zu8dw1ox1q
    @user-zu8dw1ox1q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:51: great now he's also Doomsday.

  • @TheBreakingGamer
    @TheBreakingGamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Homie no one that has ever seen Hercules in anything is sleeping on him.

  • @tiamatspawn4597
    @tiamatspawn4597 ปีที่แล้ว

    HE IS HIM!

  • @pianoimpact7699
    @pianoimpact7699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gimme sane Heracles and full powered Saber with Avalon, I wanna see it soooo much

  • @emsmx3690
    @emsmx3690 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get a don't sleep on video of Mash next?

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh brought out the basaCAR LMAO

  • @eddy9615
    @eddy9615 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok 42 Minute Vid I was wondering why the video took so long to make.

  • @alicethedragonprincess447
    @alicethedragonprincess447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe do next
    Dont sleep on scathach

  • @PlantPot4
    @PlantPot4 ปีที่แล้ว

    carnival phantasm feats lol

  • @snailthelostcow63
    @snailthelostcow63 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You know… kinda off topic but in Prillya, when Illya used both Berserker and Rider card she unlocked Gorgon
    ….do you think she’ll unlock Alcides if she had the chance to use Berserker and Archer card?

  • @hellrider22393
    @hellrider22393 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really wish they would give different versions of him in fgo

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We ‘gon get Angra ever?

  • @JoeShadows1
    @JoeShadows1 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this video makes me wonder how strong a grand archer heracles would be?

  • @casteanpreswyn7528
    @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Friendly reminder, he is also available in all classes except Caster and is considered top tier in all of them except Berserker.

    • @Goetia544
      @Goetia544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m curious as to how an Assassin Class Heracles would work. He seems like the least most Assassin type lol.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Goetia544 it would be interesting, but if we go by his myths, he'd probably use the poison blood of the hydra in combination with the birds to deliver death from afar without having to be directly engaged, falling back on archery and hand to hand combat when necessary.

    • @Goetia544
      @Goetia544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 He would sneak behind people and snap their necks with Pankration with his quick speed and no one would notice him.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Goetia544 that could work too. I just personally really like the idea of long Ranged assassin class servants and honestly, why wouldn't an assassin use the most potent poison in all mythology?

    • @Goetia544
      @Goetia544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 Agreed. I imagine that Assassin Heracles would just be Archer Heracles but a lot more stealthy (and using the Hydra poison).