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See "True Romance"... Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Gary Oldman, Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, Christopher Walken, Dennis Hopper, and Val Kilmer. THAT is the best cast ever. *EDIT* and James Gandolfini, Chris Penn, Tom Sizemore. Etc. etc. etc.
The real flex of Doc Holiday the first time he meets Ringo, is that he completely recreates the pistol spinning he does with his cup off just seeing it once. Johnny Ringo understands that Doc has a hand and eye for gun-slinging, and Doc got the added benefit of seeing just how fast Ringo can draw and knows he can beat him.
Who told you that. That's actor John Philbin from movies like Point Break and North Shore. Earp's great-grandnephew did have a part in this movie, but as an extra.
@jfarnsworth75 yeah you're correct, he might be in the background of that scene, but he's not some unnamed extra, he plays the role of Billy Clayborne, and he was part of the shootout at OK Corral.
They called him Doc because he was a dentist. When you have Tuberculosis your lungs are deteriorating and you cough up blood. To slow the deterioration, Doc was attempting to live in dryer climates like the west.
@@auslandermercury972 Yeah, so the comments about "I wish we could have seen him before Tubercolosis" would just mean him and a patient in a dentist chair out east... not that exciting.
Man that movie will never get old. My whole family has been randomly saying “I’m your huckleberry” my entire life. Val Kilmer as Doc was just the best choice possible.
@@RasmaRose Hi, he actually does say "I'm your huckleberry". It means, 'I can do the job'... 'I'm the man for the job'. Val Kilmer wrote a memoir titled "I'm Your Huckleberry" .
@@ghostmonkey0432 It's been so long since I've seen that movie.But I remember a lot about it and I am downright shocked to know that sam directed it given how much of a fan i've become of his work
One of the most quotable movies ever - including the amount of underrated lines that don't get much attention. Especially the last line that is always missed by the younger generations, like, I'm only 44 years old, but I'm fully aware of the weight that is carried by the words "Tom Mix wept."
The scene where doc looks at his feet symbolizes how most gunslingers died with their boots on, so his last vision of his bare feet as he dies in bed is ironic to his way of life.
@@auslandermercury972 I'm 68 years old, and when I was a kid, this was a very common thing in movies and TV. There was even an old (1942) movie "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn playing the part of Custer and referring to "Custer's last stand" where he and his men died with their boots on.
Many people believe that Val Kilmer deserved the Oscar that year for this role. The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were: Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive" Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List" John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire" Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father" Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List"; Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way"; Gary Oldman as Drexl Spivey, Christopher Walken as Vincenzo Coccotti, & Dennis Hopper as Clifford Worley in "True Romance"; etc...
He shouldve gotten in over Leo and Malkovich at least. And he couldve won, but goddamn Both Fiennes and Jones are the stiffest of competition. Personally I think Id have given it to Val with decades of hindsight and just how much more effective he is in the role. Tommy Lee Jones plays his part to perfection of course, but Val Kilmer really transformed himself. Its just the nature of the roles, but I just find Vals accomplishment here slightly more impressive. He had more to showcase.
@@ComicCrossing A couple of stories really emphasize Ralph's & Leo's cases. One of the holocaust survivors started trembling when she saw Ralph as Amon, while certain celebrities (I forgot which ones) in attendance at the Oscars were apparently surprised to find out that Leo wasn't actually disabled.
That altercation with Doc Holliday when he says, "im a daisy if you do" was a real altercation that took place recalled by someone watching the fight at the OK coral
When doc says "you're a daisy if you do" it means you're the best if you do. So he's basically says he's the best if he can kill him (doc). Same with when he's telling Ringo "you're no daisy, you're no daisy at all" is Doc taunting Ringo that he wasn't the best and couldn't beat doc.
To me, one of the most impressive moments of Kilmers performance was during the “two guns” quote. He spins one pistol clockwise, the other counterclockwise, at the same time while holding his cup.
My favourite western of all time. Endlessly quotable, banging set-pieces, a soaring score and two leads in roles they were born to play. And of course, the world's greatest selection of moustaches.
You tell them Hell is coming with me. Love that line from Wyatt Earp. Kurt Russell really served as a Ghost Director making sure every actor have equal amount of screentime in this film. There a behind the scenes documentary on youtube where Kurt talks highly of Val as to how he convincingly plays a Georgian aristocrat which has never been done before. Val Kilmer should've won an academy award for best supporting actor for Doc Holiday.
Yeah, I love that the first scene showing how evil they were set up that line from the priest. Made that line by Wyatt so good. Like he was the hand of God enacting divine retribution upon them.
No, Kurt was the actual director. The first director was the screenwriter and this was to be his directorial debut but quickly realized he couldn't handle the job. So Kurt took over but didnt want anyone to know it was him so Cosmatos was brought in and was the "ghost director." Why he was allegedly such a pain in the ass on set is unknown to us, but ironic that that info came from Biehn, who was a close friend of the screenwriter/director-who-quit, and had almost decided to quit the film himself.
@@jrod2510 still crazy Kurt didn't want to take credit. He should've taken the credit because he is the connective tissue with giving each character portrayed by the respective enough screentime to shine.
@@Brook11223 Yeah, but think of it two ways: 1) Kurt's already the lead of this ensemble, and maybe a diva head or two pops up and says we'll shit I want in on this as well upon finding out it's Kurt. Or 2) In 2024 we look at this cast and shit our pants at the sheer amount of star power is in it, but when it was being made in 1992, one could argue even Kurt isnt peak Kurt at this point so why is he in the chair?
@@Brook11223 Or even the 3rd way: someone in Hollywood didnt need to see their name yet again with another credit on the same film. Commendable actually.
My Favorite Western PERIODT. Val's magnum opus. No quote has lived rent free in my mind. For over two decades strong!!! *"Im your huckleberry!!!"* Great direction and performances from Kurt Russell. Especially with all the obstacles the production had to face. One of the best modern westerns of all time.
Buck Taylor who played Deputy Newly on the classic tv western Gunsmoke plays "Turkey Creek" Jack Johnson. Fun fact prior to getting acting he was a gymnast and almost made the 1960 U.S Summer Olympics team. Despite clocking in at 86 years old he is still acting. A few years back played a recurring character on the neowestern Yellowstone with Kevin Costner.
The thing about Doc Holiday is that this really was his gun fighting prime. Before he got sick he was a dentist, hence the nickname "Doc", he spent the last of his days basically trying to find any number of ways to get himself killed rather than his sickness.
In the gunfight where Texas Jack said “it was legal”, he did say to the guy “don’t you raise that arm”. In a situation like that, raising your arm with a pistol in hand past your belt line was enough to establish intent and be shot.
I already know that I'm going to love this reaction from Andrew and Aaron! Love this movie!!! 😊 RIP always to Bill Paxton(who played Wyatt's brother Morgan Earp)! Such a great movie covering Wyatt Earp's life in Tombstone Arizona, and leading up to the infamous gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Both Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell 100% deserved at least an Academy Award nomination for this movie. Another great Western movie that I very highly recommend is another telling of Wyatt Earp's life simply titled "Wyatt Earp" from 1994 starring Kevin Costner. And a historical sports movie that I very highly recommend is the 2004 "Miracle" starring Kurt Russell. And it's about the historic 1980 'Miracle on Ice' USA Olympic hockey game. Looking forward to the next reaction. 😊
"I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me" is a call back to the early scene where Ringo translated the Bible quote 'death rides a pale horse and hell comes with him.' Wyatt is saying that he is death
"So run you curr. Tell all the all the other currs that tha law's coming. you tell em I'm coming and hells coming with me ya here HELLS COMING WITH MEEEE!!!!" 51:39
imho, the "pale horse," (or "sick horse," as Curly Bill misinterpretted the Spanish minister) is refering to Doc Holiday, because he's pale and a walking dead man. To me, it's how the Bible identifies Death: Death arrives with a pale horse. You see the horse.....that's not any regular man with him. That's Death
Oh fuck yes! It's crazy to think this movie was released within 6 months of Kevin Costners "Wyatt Earp", and this one is infinitely better in every way. The dialogue, the classical filmmaking, the performances, the AMAZING score! Brilliant, just brilliant!
if you like Hollywood Lore then yes Tombstone outshines Wyatt Earp movie but if you like history then Tombstone can't hold a candle to Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner
Story is the scene where Wyatt Earp kills all the cowboys in the water where he faces a hail of bullets pretty much happened just like that. It's one of the reasons he is so legendary 🎬
I never skip a Tombstone reaction. Best Western ever!! Also Andrew you're knowledge and passion makes your reactions so special. I'm you in my friend group, just can't help but share film knowledge, fun facts, and actors while watching movies. Keep being you huckleberry.
Delaney was also on a show called China Beach. My mom was a huge fan of that show, shame it doesn't get the credit it deserves. I want to say Delaney won an Emmy after the show's final season.
I love the idea that the shootout at The OK Corral started with Doc Holliday winking at someone. I know that’s probably not historically accurate but I like to think it is. lol
would make more sense if they actually showed Doc getting shot in the gunfight at the OK Corral but they went way of Hollywood lore and left most historically accurate details out Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner is more historically accurate you would think them having a historian working with them they would have at least showed James and Warren Earp especially since Warren rode on the Vendetta ride but they didn't go for full historically accurate depiction they went way of Hollywood Lore instead which is a shame
Dad passed away April 16th and this was by FAR one of his most favorite movies of all time...this and Jaws. If I had to count, he's seen both a few hundred times at the very least. He was only 61 😔. One of the greatest western pieces of current day. Val and Kurt where both phenomenal in this, not to mention the supporting cast with Sam Elliot and Bill Paxton. I mean, come on. Doesn't get better than that. Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp were Baaaad men, definition of good men forced to do bad things. RIP Dad miss ya 😔 Doc Holiday " the last charge of Wyatt Earp and the Immortals"
Saw this as a teenager and it stuck with me for life as one of the best movies I've seen. Absolutely fell in love with Kilmer's Doc Holiday. Yes, be my huckleberry!
Tombstone is a real place and Tombstone is considered more accurate of a portrayal of events that happened in that town than the movie Wyatt Earp. Tombstone only covers the events in that town and Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner covered his entire life. I’ve been to both Tombstone and Dodge City and the buildings are still around today in both towns. They actually filmed Tombstone in the city and had to poor dirt over the modern roadways.
In Tombstone there is a plaque honoring the sheriff that was accidentally killed that night. It was a hundred years before I was born 10/28/1883. It pretty much happened the way the movie showed it.
This was based on the legend of the real events where the story becomes bigger than what probably happened. Still, Morgan Earp was murdered and Virgil Earp did lose the use of one arm so they weren't part of the Vendette Ride. McMasters, Turkey Creek Johnson, and Texas Jack Vermillion were, however. Also, the eldest Earp brother, James, and the youngest brother, Warren, were part of the Vendette Ride, but they never made it into the movie.
Unforgiven. One of the greatest films of all time. My two other favourite westerns are Winchester 73 and The Searchers. Honourable mentions to Quigley: Down Under and Blazing Saddles.
ANDREW…I’M SHOCKED YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THIS MASTERPIECE Edit: 5:42 Aaron, the actors had a contest to see who could grow the best moustache for filming. Truly great facial hair, and I'm jealous.
Honestly Andrew, I like the references and recognition of all the actors. I've seen Tombstone dozens of times and I only just noticed the Thomas Haden Church thanks to you! Keep it up.
“I’m ya huckleberry” Went to see this at the $1 movie show up in the Bay Area after it came out. Didn’t even know anything about its release, but so instantly fell in love with this movie after seeing it, that I rounded up all the friends I could find to go with me to see it again. They all loved it too. It should be a crime how unknown and underrated this movie is. Greatest modern western film to date and Great Reaction pick y’all
Andrew never apologize for all the references, that was awesome that you were able to instantly identify everyone - hell even got Thornton on voice alone. This movie was definitely an early 90s who's who for film.
Powers Boothe was actually my cousin. Distant. Unfortunately I never got the chance to meet him though. But my dad had, and he told me about him. My dad said he was a good man. And he killed this role. He plays the part so damn well. Hell, everyone does in this movie. There are no weak links. That's why I consider it one of the best westerns ever made.
That fight at the river actually happened . And it’s true he never so much as got grazed bullits. One went directly between his leg into his coat that’s it!!
54:31 this is a true story. Wyatt urp walked into the middle of the river and didnt get hit once. The story was told by one of the cowboys that was there
Dana Delany who played Josie came to fame in the late 80s playing McMurphy on a prestige TV series called China Beach. She won 2 Emmys for lead actress between 1988-1992. She went on to an early 00s series called Pasadena. Great movie references Andrew but there's a lot of fab TV out there, too.
A 'huckle' is one of the 8 handles on the side of a casket. Doc Holliday said, "I'll be your hucklebearer (pallbearer) meaning I'll escort you to death. A huckleberry is a purple berry that is native to Missouri. A very different word and meaning.
@@jagger1218 Yep but it's possible that the original real quote came from the huckles of a casket, as in, hucklebearer. But I think it changed over time and became 'huckleberry'
The gun spinning scene between Johnny and Doc shows how good Johnny; but is then flexed on by a sickly-looking drunk Doc who recreates Johnny's whole routine with his cup shows Johnny that Doc is in a class like no one else.
This has been my favorite movie for decades. I am constantly showing this to my friends and family who haven't seen it yet and living vicariously through their first time reactions. This video truly made me happy. Thanks guys!
this is my first time watching one of your videos, and I have to say that I love how you know all the actors/actresses and what they were in. I didn't know half of them and I enjoyed hearing about it and the fact that you recognized so many of them. I will defiantly watch more of your reactions in the future
My dad really loves Tombstone and i got into it cuz of him. Theres so many great lines in this movie. “You tell em im comin, you tell em im comin and hells coming with me!” And Doc Holidays reapeated line and especially at the end when he says “Im your Huckleberry”. He really makes it sound imposing and intimidating. All the performances are just great. I do think a prequel sort of thing would be interesting but its better for it to be a self contained story cuz Doc Holiday isnt the same without his illness, thats his character. The baddest man in the west with a handicap.
Great reaction, fellas! Of the 4+ film versions of the events in Tombstone, this one is the most historically accurate, although there is much to be said, as filmmaking, for the Henry Fonda version from the 30s and the Burt Lancaster / Kirk Douglas version from the 60s. Weirdly, I first learned about these events from a 1969 episode of Star Trek: TOS. There is also an episode of Classic Doctor Who that also involves them. There was a whole television series about Wyatt Earp, and many series in which several of these characters (especially Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo) appear.
Andrew, never stop doing that voodoo that you do, so well. The references, the film knowledge, it’s why we are here brother, haters gonna hate so you can not let those people dull your shine, EVER. Lessening yourself never makes any situation better, if you know a fact, I want to hear it because chances are I don’t know it. I need you and Coy to do a video together just to see if the screen explodes from info overload 🍿🥤😳
They keep mentioning wanting to see Doc Holiday before he got sick. They will be suprised when they find out before he got sick Doc Holiday was a dentist.
And the reason he’s such a good gunslinger is because of his sickness. Since he wasn’t afraid of dying he took the time to aim and practice made him fast
When great actors hear about a great western being made they ALL show up. This is one of the best westerns ever made. Keep on identifying those actors. Many reactors miss Billy Bob, Stephen Lang and Charlton Heston.
Another great Michael Biehn villain role is The Abyss (1989). Great movie! As far as other westerns to watch I would recommend Open Range, 3:10 To Yuma (the remake), Silverado, True Grit (the remake), The Quick and the Dead, Maverick (another stacked cast).
I loved Val Kilmer in this role, he just bodied it. Also his portrayal of Jim Morrison in the *"Doors"* biopic was really good. I'm also a big fan if his role in *"Thunderheart",* .... and *"The Saint".* 😁😆😎
This is the most quotable movie of all times...I use "I'm your huckleberry" regularly and "why, if i thought we weren't friends anymore, i just know what I'd do..."
For Dana Delaney, I always think of a tv show called "China Beach" first. It was set during the Vietnam War and ran from 1988 - 1991. That was the first thing I remember seeing her in.
Doc Holliday: In vino veritas. (In wine there is truth.) Johnny Ringo: Age quod agis. (Do what you do.) Doc Holliday: Credat Judaeus Apella, non ego. (Let Apella the Jew believe, not I.) Romans used the phrase to show contempt for Judaism's belief that divine power was involved in everyday life. Johnny Ringo: Iuventus stultorum magister. (Youth is the teacher of fools.) Doc Holliday: In pace requiescat. (May he rest in peace.) The subtext is Doc is not taking Ringo seriously at all.
I don’t know about best Western movie, but Kilmer’s Doc is definitely one of the best performances in a Western ever. How he didn’t get all the awards that year is crazy. Kilmer is iconic in this role.
39:01 there is absolutely Four Musketeers, there is a movie to prove it 😁 The Three Musketeers (1973) The Four Musketeers (1974) The Return of the Musketeers(1989)
Great reaction! Subscribed. Keep those references coming! Paula Malcomson (Ray Donavon, Deadwood Hunger games, Sons of Anarchy) was Sam Elliot's wife. Wyatt Earp III played a cowboy in the Gunfight at the oK Corral. Tombstone looks today exactly like it does in 1880's. The bullet holes in the Bird Cage theater are still there. Wyatt Earp's saloon is still there, Allen street can still be strolled down. Wyatt did stand up to and kill Curly Bill in the river. Ring was found shot under a tree but there is no proof Doc shot him
Wyatt Earp didn't know Doc Holliday before TB. Doc went west when he caught TB that's when he met Doc Holliday. Doc was a Dentist before TB. He thought the dry climate would help with TB. they also didn't know it was contagious.
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The reaction is out of sync at parts
Young Guns 1 & 2
I'm just glad we have the ability to learn actor names and other projects they've done.
Fun fact: Kurt Russel actually directed this but didn't take credit. He made sure everyone had their fair share of lines.
Trivia! Name three movies that Michael Beign and Bill Paxton appeared together in?
In my opinion, Doc Holliday was Val Kilmer's greatest role.
That fact that he wasn't nominated for Best Supporting Actor is an injustice.
He should have won over Tommy Lee Jones.
I'm rather partial to Nick Rivers
YOU GADDAMN RIGHT!!!
Hard damn facts!!!!
Facts
The greatest collection of mustaches ever filmed in a single movie. And also one of the deepest casts I've ever seen in one movie.
The also had a competition to see who grew the best moustache guess who won 😂
Silverado has a deep cast as well.
See "True Romance"... Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Gary Oldman, Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, Christopher Walken, Dennis Hopper, and Val Kilmer. THAT is the best cast ever. *EDIT* and James Gandolfini, Chris Penn, Tom Sizemore. Etc. etc. etc.
@@brewswillis9783 SILVERADO IS THE BEST WESTERN OF THE 80S
All but one were real too! And only because the actor had another role without a mustache at the same time if I remember correctly
Val Kilmer gave the performance of a lifetime as Doc Holliday.
It's as if Doc Holiday dug out of his grave to portray himself.
@@Brook11223 and somehow you know how Doc Holiday actually was....
RIP, Bill Paxton, Powers Boothe, Harry Carey Jr, Robert Mitchum (Narrator) And Charlton Heston.
What a mixed bag watching this incredible cast in the year 2024 😢
The real flex of Doc Holiday the first time he meets Ringo, is that he completely recreates the pistol spinning he does with his cup off just seeing it once. Johnny Ringo understands that Doc has a hand and eye for gun-slinging, and Doc got the added benefit of seeing just how fast Ringo can draw and knows he can beat him.
He also sees which is Ringo's dominant hand, which he draws with
Ótima analise a sua, não tinha pensado nisso
Yep and it's scarier that Doc wasn't using an revolver but a damn cup
The Cowboy that gets bonked on the head by Kurt Russell after saying "ill fight you right now" is the real Wyatt Earp's great-grandnephew.
Who told you that. That's actor John Philbin from movies like Point Break and North Shore. Earp's great-grandnephew did have a part in this movie, but as an extra.
@jfarnsworth75 yeah you're correct, he might be in the background of that scene, but he's not some unnamed extra, he plays the role of Billy Clayborne, and he was part of the shootout at OK Corral.
I went to high school with a great something nephew of Wyatt. The only Earp I've ever known.
It was actually the actor in the wedding scene that shot the groom in the knee. He was Billy Claiborne. The actor is actually named Wyatt Earp.
The actor who told doc "I got you now you son of a bitch" and doc shoots between the eyes is Wyatt's great grandson.
One of the smaller details about doc Holiday that I really love is that in any situation where everyone else is freaking out, he doesn’t even flinch.
"I wasnt." In context, one of the hardest lines ever in a movie.
They called him Doc because he was a dentist. When you have Tuberculosis your lungs are deteriorating and you cough up blood. To slow the deterioration, Doc was attempting to live in dryer climates like the west.
Thus, the derogatory name "Lunger." Similar to what mercury and asbestos do to the body.
He was a dentist?! I had no idea! That’s crazy!
@@auslandermercury972 Yeah, so the comments about "I wish we could have seen him before Tubercolosis" would just mean him and a patient in a dentist chair out east... not that exciting.
Living in the west was supposed to help him live another year or two according to his doctor; he lived another fourteen
One of Kurt Russells best roles! He is indeed a national treasure.
Plus he basically directed the whole film...look it up
Man that movie will never get old. My whole family has been randomly saying “I’m your huckleberry” my entire life. Val Kilmer as Doc was just the best choice possible.
@@RasmaRose Hi, he actually does say "I'm your huckleberry". It means, 'I can do the job'... 'I'm the man for the job'. Val Kilmer wrote a memoir titled "I'm Your Huckleberry" .
Sounds like you have a fun family with a great taste in movies. Val Kilmer wrote a memoir titled "I'm Your Huckleberry".
@@ladyleatherlace4750 yepp! I was wrong! I was thinking of Pall Bearer! 😎👍🏼
"I got lots of friends"
"I don't"
Best line ever.
Also should do sam raimis "quick and the dead"
One of my favorite lines in a film.
Wait that's a Raimi film? 😮😮
Sure is lol there's signature camera moments. I'll admit though I didn't for a long time that it was. @@bemasaberwyn55
@@ghostmonkey0432 It's been so long since I've seen that movie.But I remember a lot about it and I am downright shocked to know that sam directed it given how much of a fan i've become of his work
One of the most quotable movies ever - including the amount of underrated lines that don't get much attention. Especially the last line that is always missed by the younger generations, like, I'm only 44 years old, but I'm fully aware of the weight that is carried by the words "Tom Mix wept."
The scene where doc looks at his feet symbolizes how most gunslingers died with their boots on, so his last vision of his bare feet as he dies in bed is ironic to his way of life.
Is that what he means? I never knew that. Thank you!
@@auslandermercury972 and Wyatt never visited him in the sanatorium they had a falling out shortly after Earp's Vendetta ride
@@auslandermercury972 I'm 68 years old, and when I was a kid, this was a very common thing in movies and TV. There was even an old (1942) movie "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn playing the part of Custer and referring to "Custer's last stand" where he and his men died with their boots on.
Many people believe that Val Kilmer deserved the Oscar that year for this role. The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were:
Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive"
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List"
John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire"
Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List"; Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way"; Gary Oldman as Drexl Spivey, Christopher Walken as Vincenzo Coccotti, & Dennis Hopper as Clifford Worley in "True Romance"; etc...
He wasn't snubbed. He gave a great performance, but he wasn't beating Jones
@@moondog3056 Malkovitloviched for that in the future. But that 3d gun was amaging futurology
@@moondog3056 The snubs were for the nominations, not necessarily the win.
He shouldve gotten in over Leo and Malkovich at least. And he couldve won, but goddamn Both Fiennes and Jones are the stiffest of competition. Personally I think Id have given it to Val with decades of hindsight and just how much more effective he is in the role. Tommy Lee Jones plays his part to perfection of course, but Val Kilmer really transformed himself. Its just the nature of the roles, but I just find Vals accomplishment here slightly more impressive. He had more to showcase.
@@ComicCrossing A couple of stories really emphasize Ralph's & Leo's cases. One of the holocaust survivors started trembling when she saw Ralph as Amon, while certain celebrities (I forgot which ones) in attendance at the Oscars were apparently surprised to find out that Leo wasn't actually disabled.
“I’ve not yet begun to defile myself” is a line I still used to this day 😂
That altercation with Doc Holliday when he says, "im a daisy if you do" was a real altercation that took place recalled by someone watching the fight at the OK coral
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@@joenobody5631 ?
@@JuicedCazyD "You're* a daisy if you do."
@joenobody5631 apologies I was like where did I put your instead of you're then It dawned on me lol
When doc says "you're a daisy if you do" it means you're the best if you do. So he's basically says he's the best if he can kill him (doc). Same with when he's telling Ringo "you're no daisy, you're no daisy at all" is Doc taunting Ringo that he wasn't the best and couldn't beat doc.
To me, one of the most impressive moments of Kilmers performance was during the “two guns” quote. He spins one pistol clockwise, the other counterclockwise, at the same time while holding his cup.
I never noticed he was holding the cup!
I went back to look.
Wow! I never noticed that before.
Them: "Most ensemble cast ever!"
Me knowing Charlton Heston is still coming: "😁"
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Wyatt: "Thanks for always being there Doc."
🥺💘💗😭😭😭😭
Wyatt pays Doc the best compliment I think a man can ever receive. 😭💗
“That is a hell of a thing for you to say to me.” I love that line. Doc is such a good friend!
Wyatt Earp screaming noooo and walking in the water and finishing them is a true story of what happen
This is true. There were bullet holes in his duster jacket after the actual altercation.
In fact, he never took a bullet in his whole life.
My favourite western of all time. Endlessly quotable, banging set-pieces, a soaring score and two leads in roles they were born to play. And of course, the world's greatest selection of moustaches.
Doc, and the Earps, all grew their own mustaches for tombstone!
Val Kilmer as Doc is some of the best acting ever!
You tell them Hell is coming with me. Love that line from Wyatt Earp. Kurt Russell really served as a Ghost Director making sure every actor have equal amount of screentime in this film. There a behind the scenes documentary on youtube where Kurt talks highly of Val as to how he convincingly plays a Georgian aristocrat which has never been done before. Val Kilmer should've won an academy award for best supporting actor for Doc Holiday.
Yeah, I love that the first scene showing how evil they were set up that line from the priest.
Made that line by Wyatt so good. Like he was the hand of God enacting divine retribution upon them.
No, Kurt was the actual director. The first director was the screenwriter and this was to be his directorial debut but quickly realized he couldn't handle the job. So Kurt took over but didnt want anyone to know it was him so Cosmatos was brought in and was the "ghost director." Why he was allegedly such a pain in the ass on set is unknown to us, but ironic that that info came from Biehn, who was a close friend of the screenwriter/director-who-quit, and had almost decided to quit the film himself.
@@jrod2510 still crazy Kurt didn't want to take credit. He should've taken the credit because he is the connective tissue with giving each character portrayed by the respective enough screentime to shine.
@@Brook11223 Yeah, but think of it two ways: 1) Kurt's already the lead of this ensemble, and maybe a diva head or two pops up and says we'll shit I want in on this as well upon finding out it's Kurt. Or 2) In 2024 we look at this cast and shit our pants at the sheer amount of star power is in it, but when it was being made in 1992, one could argue even Kurt isnt peak Kurt at this point so why is he in the chair?
@@Brook11223 Or even the 3rd way: someone in Hollywood didnt need to see their name yet again with another credit on the same film. Commendable actually.
I love you are pointing out every actor. Bravo!
The guy who Doc stabbed in the card game scene was Frank Stallone, Sly's brother.
My Favorite Western PERIODT. Val's magnum opus. No quote has lived rent free in my mind. For over two decades strong!!! *"Im your huckleberry!!!"* Great direction and performances from Kurt Russell. Especially with all the obstacles the production had to face. One of the best modern westerns of all time.
1:03:21 There's no normal life it's just life. 😭😭😭😭😭
Sorry lonesome dove takes number 1 for me
Bill F'n Paxton. Him alone would have made this a legendary movie. But then you heap on a bunch of other legends and oh boy. My favorite Western.
Dana Delaney was a nurse/doctor in China Beach. You can look it up. Phenomenal series set in the Vietnam war. It was sooo popular.
She also won an Emmy for her role.
Were animaniney totally insanny.....
Dana Delaney!!!!!
That was THE show back in the day!
"You gonna do something, or just stand there and bleed." So great!
Buck Taylor who played Deputy Newly on the classic tv western Gunsmoke plays "Turkey Creek" Jack Johnson.
Fun fact prior to getting acting he was a gymnast and almost made the 1960 U.S Summer Olympics team. Despite clocking in at 86 years old he is still acting. A few years back played a recurring character on the neowestern Yellowstone with Kevin Costner.
The thing about Doc Holiday is that this really was his gun fighting prime.
Before he got sick he was a dentist, hence the nickname "Doc", he spent the last of his days basically trying to find any number of ways to get himself killed rather than his sickness.
In the gunfight where Texas Jack said “it was legal”, he did say to the guy “don’t you raise that arm”. In a situation like that, raising your arm with a pistol in hand past your belt line was enough to establish intent and be shot.
That scene in the creek really happened. Wyatt walked out and didn't get hit once. Man was built different
I already know that I'm going to love this reaction from Andrew and Aaron! Love this movie!!! 😊
RIP always to Bill Paxton(who played Wyatt's brother Morgan Earp)!
Such a great movie covering Wyatt Earp's life in Tombstone Arizona, and leading up to the infamous gunfight at the O.K. Corral.
Both Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell 100% deserved at least an Academy Award nomination for this movie.
Another great Western movie that I very highly recommend is another telling of Wyatt Earp's life simply titled "Wyatt Earp" from 1994 starring Kevin Costner.
And a historical sports movie that I very highly recommend is the 2004 "Miracle" starring Kurt Russell. And it's about the historic 1980 'Miracle on Ice' USA Olympic hockey game.
Looking forward to the next reaction. 😊
"I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me" is a call back to the early scene where Ringo translated the Bible quote 'death rides a pale horse and hell comes with him.'
Wyatt is saying that he is death
"So run you curr. Tell all the all the other currs that tha law's coming. you tell em I'm coming and hells coming with me ya here HELLS COMING WITH MEEEE!!!!" 51:39
He talk crazy...something about a sick horse or something. Lots of people miss that foreshadowing
imho, the "pale horse," (or "sick horse," as Curly Bill misinterpretted the Spanish minister) is refering to Doc Holiday, because he's pale and a walking dead man. To me, it's how the Bible identifies Death: Death arrives with a pale horse. You see the horse.....that's not any regular man with him. That's Death
And "the pale horse" was Doc. Which from a literal aspect is a little wierd and creepy, but from a figurative aspect, completely makes sense.
@@Leekle2ManE 100% i've thought that, too. it's a biblical metaphor... Death accompaniied by a Pale Horse.
Oh fuck yes! It's crazy to think this movie was released within 6 months of Kevin Costners "Wyatt Earp", and this one is infinitely better in every way. The dialogue, the classical filmmaking, the performances, the AMAZING score! Brilliant, just brilliant!
if you like Hollywood Lore then yes Tombstone outshines Wyatt Earp movie but if you like history then Tombstone can't hold a candle to Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner
How does dude have so much obscure actor/movie knowledge (including years of release) yet hasn't seen something like Tombstone?
"I have two guns, one for each of ya." 🔥🔥🔥
I don't care what anybody says, this IS the great western of all time, and Val Kilmer should have won an oscar.
You should care cause you're wrong.
@@TylerD288 not even slightly.
Maybe you're right, but for me the best is Unforgiven
@@alexp601 Not even on the same level.
@@captaincaptain2128 Yeah? Well, you know, that’s just like uh, your opinion, man.
Story is the scene where Wyatt Earp kills all the cowboys in the water where he faces a hail of bullets pretty much happened just like that. It's one of the reasons he is so legendary 🎬
I never skip a Tombstone reaction. Best Western ever!!
Also Andrew you're knowledge and passion makes your reactions so special. I'm you in my friend group, just can't help but share film knowledge, fun facts, and actors while watching movies.
Keep being you huckleberry.
Delaney was also on a show called China Beach. My mom was a huge fan of that show, shame it doesn't get the credit it deserves. I want to say Delaney won an Emmy after the show's final season.
@57:50 Michael Biehn was also a great antagonist in Abyss which came out four years before Tombstone.
I love the idea that the shootout at The OK Corral started with Doc Holliday winking at someone. I know that’s probably not historically accurate but I like to think it is. lol
It coulda been. I'm sure crazier scenarios have had wilder beginnings.
would make more sense if they actually showed Doc getting shot in the gunfight at the OK Corral but they went way of Hollywood lore and left most historically accurate details out Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner is more historically accurate you would think them having a historian working with them they would have at least showed James and Warren Earp especially since Warren rode on the Vendetta ride but they didn't go for full historically accurate depiction they went way of Hollywood Lore instead which is a shame
The death of Bill Paxton and Wyatt's other brothers' death and injuries are historically accurate
Dad passed away April 16th and this was by FAR one of his most favorite movies of all time...this and Jaws. If I had to count, he's seen both a few hundred times at the very least. He was only 61 😔. One of the greatest western pieces of current day. Val and Kurt where both phenomenal in this, not to mention the supporting cast with Sam Elliot and Bill Paxton. I mean, come on. Doesn't get better than that. Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp were Baaaad men, definition of good men forced to do bad things. RIP Dad miss ya 😔 Doc Holiday " the last charge of Wyatt Earp and the Immortals"
Love this comment My condolences. At least he knows up above he raised a real one!
@MrBoyYankee haha thx appreciate it bud.
Saw this as a teenager and it stuck with me for life as one of the best movies I've seen. Absolutely fell in love with Kilmer's Doc Holiday. Yes, be my huckleberry!
Tombstone is a real place and Tombstone is considered more accurate of a portrayal of events that happened in that town than the movie Wyatt Earp. Tombstone only covers the events in that town and Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner covered his entire life. I’ve been to both Tombstone and Dodge City and the buildings are still around today in both towns. They actually filmed Tombstone in the city and had to poor dirt over the modern roadways.
It is a fun tourist trap and does 3 shows of the fight a day
In Tombstone there is a plaque honoring the sheriff that was accidentally killed that night. It was a hundred years before I was born 10/28/1883. It pretty much happened the way the movie showed it.
This was based on the legend of the real events where the story becomes bigger than what probably happened. Still, Morgan Earp was murdered and Virgil Earp did lose the use of one arm so they weren't part of the Vendette Ride. McMasters, Turkey Creek Johnson, and Texas Jack Vermillion were, however. Also, the eldest Earp brother, James, and the youngest brother, Warren, were part of the Vendette Ride, but they never made it into the movie.
the younger brother Warren was apart of the Vendetta ride James went out to California with Virgil
This movie is LEGENDARY among westerns, the cast is amazing, dialogue brilliant!
One of the greatest films and cast to ever exist
I was glad many classic Western TV show and movie actors were in it too like Buck Taylor of Gunsmoke fame for example.
What's your ALL-TIME Favorite Western??
Either Tombstone or The Quick and the Dead with Russell Crowe.
Tombstone, Unforgiven, and For A Few Dollars More.
Unforgiven. One of the greatest films of all time. My two other favourite westerns are Winchester 73 and The Searchers. Honourable mentions to Quigley: Down Under and Blazing Saddles.
Unforgiven, and for a lighter sort, Young Guns.
It's a top three of this film, High Plains Drifter, and Rio Bravo.
Andrew...you and Coy are two of my favorite reactors at Reel Rejects because of all the references...so please keep them coming
Lonesome Dove (1989)
4 part Miniseries
6 hour 40min runtime
One of the best westerns ever!
ANDREW…I’M SHOCKED YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THIS MASTERPIECE
Edit: 5:42 Aaron, the actors had a contest to see who could grow the best moustache for filming. Truly great facial hair, and I'm jealous.
I believe Sam Elliot won
@@KD-cd2ckNo surprise there lol
@@KD-cd2ckI've heard both Sam & Kurt won. Never seen anything definitive about who won.
Honestly Andrew, I like the references and recognition of all the actors. I've seen Tombstone dozens of times and I only just noticed the Thomas Haden Church thanks to you! Keep it up.
Andrew's references are off the charts.
I do just the same to my friends.
Keep em coming brother..
“I’m ya huckleberry” Went to see this at the $1 movie show up in the Bay Area after it came out. Didn’t even know anything about its release, but so instantly fell in love with this movie after seeing it, that I rounded up all the friends I could find to go with me to see it again. They all loved it too. It should be a crime how unknown and underrated this movie is. Greatest modern western film to date and Great Reaction pick y’all
Andrew never apologize for all the references, that was awesome that you were able to instantly identify everyone - hell even got Thornton on voice alone. This movie was definitely an early 90s who's who for film.
You almost never see anyone realize that is Billy Bob and I don't think I've seen anyone recognize Jason Priestly.
Most reactors don't recognise Charlton Heston either. Andrew impressed the hell outta me!!
I want to see Andrew watch a film blindfolded, and he has to guess all the actors! :)
Powers Boothe was actually my cousin. Distant. Unfortunately I never got the chance to meet him though. But my dad had, and he told me about him. My dad said he was a good man. And he killed this role. He plays the part so damn well. Hell, everyone does in this movie. There are no weak links. That's why I consider it one of the best westerns ever made.
That fight at the river actually happened . And it’s true he never so much as got grazed bullits. One went directly between his leg into his coat that’s it!!
54:31 this is a true story. Wyatt urp walked into the middle of the river and didnt get hit once. The story was told by one of the cowboys that was there
Dana Delany who played Josie came to fame in the late 80s playing McMurphy on a prestige TV series called China Beach. She won 2 Emmys for lead actress between 1988-1992. She went on to an early 00s series called Pasadena. Great movie references Andrew but there's a lot of fab TV out there, too.
I mostly just know her from House Sitter, that Steve Martin film 😅
“I’m your Huckleberry.”
A 'huckle' is one of the 8 handles on the side of a casket. Doc Holliday said, "I'll be your hucklebearer (pallbearer) meaning I'll escort you to death. A huckleberry is a purple berry that is native to Missouri. A very different word and meaning.
@@duaneswab3420And yet the line is "I'm your huckleberry", meaning "I'm the man for the job."
@@duaneswab3420 I believe Val Kilmer confirmed “I’m your huckleberry” is the line. He even has a book titled it
@@jagger1218 Yep but it's possible that the original real quote came from the huckles of a casket, as in, hucklebearer. But I think it changed over time and became 'huckleberry'
@@duaneswab3420That's not even remotely true.
The gun spinning scene between Johnny and Doc shows how good Johnny; but is then flexed on by a sickly-looking drunk Doc who recreates Johnny's whole routine with his cup shows Johnny that Doc is in a class like no one else.
A lot of people miss this, but Johnny didn't.
Yeah, everybody's laughing at Docs 'silly show' but you can see Ringo knows it was a perfect recreation
This has been my favorite movie for decades. I am constantly showing this to my friends and family who haven't seen it yet and living vicariously through their first time reactions. This video truly made me happy. Thanks guys!
I think i recall something about Wyatt wasn't actually legally married to maddy?
this is my first time watching one of your videos, and I have to say that I love how you know all the actors/actresses and what they were in. I didn't know half of them and I enjoyed hearing about it and the fact that you recognized so many of them. I will defiantly watch more of your reactions in the future
fun fact, every scene with Ike Clanton in it, Stephen Lang is drunk, just to nail his character.
Absolutely love your reference game. Just don't let it distract from the magic on the screen. ❤
My dad really loves Tombstone and i got into it cuz of him. Theres so many great lines in this movie. “You tell em im comin, you tell em im comin and hells coming with me!” And Doc Holidays reapeated line and especially at the end when he says “Im your Huckleberry”. He really makes it sound imposing and intimidating. All the performances are just great.
I do think a prequel sort of thing would be interesting but its better for it to be a self contained story cuz Doc Holiday isnt the same without his illness, thats his character. The baddest man in the west with a handicap.
I love it when reactors notice across from other movies. I do it all the time myself
Open Range & The Quick & the Dead are also good westerns
Was named after Morgan and Wyatt. This movie has been a constant favorite between my dad and I. Love watching people experience it for the first time!
Hell I got lots of friends
"I don't"
Is hands down the best line of this entire film!
Great reaction, fellas!
Of the 4+ film versions of the events in Tombstone, this one is the most historically accurate, although there is much to be said, as filmmaking, for the Henry Fonda version from the 30s and the Burt Lancaster / Kirk Douglas version from the 60s.
Weirdly, I first learned about these events from a 1969 episode of Star Trek: TOS. There is also an episode of Classic Doctor Who that also involves them. There was a whole
television series about Wyatt Earp, and many series in which several of these characters (especially Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo) appear.
Don't apologize. I respect the movie knowledge 🤘
Andrew, never stop doing that voodoo that you do, so well. The references, the film knowledge, it’s why we are here brother, haters gonna hate so you can not let those people dull your shine, EVER. Lessening yourself never makes any situation better, if you know a fact, I want to hear it because chances are I don’t know it. I need you and Coy to do a video together just to see if the screen explodes from info overload 🍿🥤😳
They keep mentioning wanting to see Doc Holiday before he got sick. They will be suprised when they find out before he got sick Doc Holiday was a dentist.
I want to see that lol
And the reason he’s such a good gunslinger is because of his sickness. Since he wasn’t afraid of dying he took the time to aim and practice made him fast
When great actors hear about a great western being made they ALL show up. This is one of the best westerns ever made.
Keep on identifying those actors. Many reactors miss Billy Bob, Stephen Lang and Charlton Heston.
7:56. Well well well...Mr. "I know every actor in every movie" didn't recognize that Ed Bailey in this scene was played by Frank Stallone.
To be fair, Sylvester might not recognize him.
Another great Michael Biehn villain role is The Abyss (1989). Great movie! As far as other westerns to watch I would recommend Open Range, 3:10 To Yuma (the remake), Silverado, True Grit (the remake), The Quick and the Dead, Maverick (another stacked cast).
I loved Val Kilmer in this role, he just bodied it.
Also his portrayal of Jim Morrison in the *"Doors"* biopic was really good.
I'm also a big fan if his role in *"Thunderheart",* .... and *"The Saint".* 😁😆😎
This is the most quotable movie of all times...I use "I'm your huckleberry" regularly and "why, if i thought we weren't friends anymore, i just know what I'd do..."
I love how excited you get to discover more amazing actors in this cast. That is what I do as well Andrew!
Thanks, I wasn’t expecting so many famous actors 😊
For Dana Delaney, I always think of a tv show called "China Beach" first. It was set during the Vietnam War and ran from 1988 - 1991. That was the first thing I remember seeing her in.
Doc Holliday: In vino veritas. (In wine there is truth.)
Johnny Ringo: Age quod agis. (Do what you do.)
Doc Holliday: Credat Judaeus Apella, non ego. (Let Apella the Jew believe, not I.) Romans used the phrase to show contempt for Judaism's belief that divine power was involved in everyday life.
Johnny Ringo: Iuventus stultorum magister. (Youth is the teacher of fools.)
Doc Holliday: In pace requiescat. (May he rest in peace.)
The subtext is Doc is not taking Ringo seriously at all.
😂😂
39:01 Three Musketeers plus D'Artagnan so, four is right 😄
I don’t know about best Western movie, but Kilmer’s Doc is definitely one of the best performances in a Western ever. How he didn’t get all the awards that year is crazy. Kilmer is iconic in this role.
Its nice to see a channel where people actual recognize the actors.
39:01 there is absolutely Four Musketeers, there is a movie to prove it 😁
The Three Musketeers (1973)
The Four Musketeers (1974)
The Return of the Musketeers(1989)
I loved this reaction. I learned things I didn't know about the people in the movie. One of my favorites.
My favorite movie! Rec on another western, The Quick and the Dead. Sharon Stone, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Gene Hackman. Big cast and great story.
Same
Filming location
Great reaction! Subscribed. Keep those references coming! Paula Malcomson (Ray Donavon, Deadwood Hunger games, Sons of Anarchy) was Sam Elliot's wife. Wyatt Earp III played a cowboy in the Gunfight at the oK Corral. Tombstone looks today exactly like it does in 1880's. The bullet holes in the Bird Cage theater are still there. Wyatt Earp's saloon is still there, Allen street can still be strolled down. Wyatt did stand up to and kill Curly Bill in the river. Ring was found shot under a tree but there is no proof Doc shot him
One of my absolute favorite movies ever. I literally watched this like 3 days ago. It’s so so good.
The last guy that was killed by doc and Morgan is actually a relative of the Earp family
Wyatt Earp didn't know Doc Holliday before TB. Doc went west when he caught TB that's when he met Doc Holliday. Doc was a Dentist before TB. He thought the dry climate would help with TB. they also didn't know it was contagious.
tombstone is an OG masterpiece !!!