TOMBSTONE (1993)| FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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- Tombstone (1993)| FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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Doc holiday was a dentist and gambler who suffered from tuberculosis. That’s why they called him lunger. He should have gotten an award for that role. Glad you two liked it.
He was from Georgia and moved west for the dryer climate.
More than likely contracted TB from his Mother. His older adopted brother died from it as well.
That's why he was sweating and coughing
TB killed so many ppl from 1800s to 1950s.
It’s a shame he never got an award…. But I think the fact that majority of people whom watch the movie and more westerns regard val kilmers rendition of doc holiday as the best western character and performance 30 years later is worth much much more to an actor than an award
This movie shows how awesome an actor Vil Kilmer is. It is truly tragedy that throat cancer has robbed him of his ability to speak.
There is a documentary on Val.. I believe that have implanted a device that uses samples of his voice when he speaks.
Tuberculosis is what Doc had
@@KneeJerkReactions13 Yes.
My favorite roles of his are Nick Rivers in "Top Secret", Madmartigan in "Willow" and Chris Knight in "Real Genius"
@@Kiernan5 forgot about those movies loved "Real Geniuses" a classic. And God said, "Stop touching yourself." Lol
Top Secret when he pulls the "Anal Intruder 2000" out from under his Nazi prison bunk.... priceless. 🤣
The crazy Wyatt shootout with Curly Bill really happened too, with the movie just tweaking some details. Afterwards in real life Wyatt's coat had numerous bullet holes with none of the shots having even scratched him.
It was a spiritual fight more than it was a natural fight. Wyatt had God on his side.
Go look up the spiritual things that happened to save people from the revolutionary war all the way to today's wars.
They say when Doc was dying, Val Kilmer was laying on a bed of ice, to make sure he looked shaky and close to death. Now tell me he didn't give his all to the role. Val Kilmer deserved an Academy Award for his role as Doc Holiday..
You're missing an L in my name, 😉🤠
It's a shame he wasn't nominated or won along with the movie.
When he yelled “HELL’S COMING WITH ME!” everyone in the sold out movie theatre went bonkers. Easily one of the most incredible moments I ever had at the movies.
Especially after the reference to Revelation that Ringo made earlier. All Wyatt needed was a pale horse.
I'm still pissed I waited a decade to watch it. Bet it was incredible indeed.
he filled the prediction of the priest except the horse
@@laapache1 It’s from the Bible King James version, Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth
That was epic, everytime gives me goosebumps
John Henry Holiday, aka, Doc, was born in Georgia. He was college educated as a dentist, hence the nickname "Doc". He developed Teburculosis and moved west to a more arid, less humid environment. People with TB were known as "lungers" and would often move west to help ease their condition. Besides being a helluva poker player and gun slinger, he also spoke three languages, Latin being one of them. He was known to travel with a lady dubbed "big nose Kate". Doc and Wyatt were friends up to Doc's death. He's one of my favorites of the old west...as I am also a Georgian.
Am as I, I always love bragging Doc was from here. I'll give you a sub Maam, nice to meet a fellow Georgin here.
The way he took out Johnny Ringo was the greatest take out of all time in damn near any movie, Johnny has both hands and Doc took him out with one, holding a cigarette and when he put the gun back after the twirl and did that move across his lips that was EVERYTHING!!!
Doc was a outlaw who really was a hero.
Wyatt was a law man who people thought was a hero but was a criminal if he needed to be.
They had the perfect friendship 😊
In the scene where Ringo and Doc show off their "pistol skills" at the bar, everyone laughs when Doc starts twirling his cup. But Ringo recognizes that Doc is able to exactly recreate what he did while drunk and barely making an effort. He recognizes how dangerous Doc really is at that moment.
You just made all that up.
I love that when you go visit tombstone in the gift shop there is just a whole shelf of simple, tin cups 🤣🤣
@@samuelplacensia9979 ☠
Even before that Ringo drew his gun on him. Ringo showed his hand to Doc the Poker Player
You can really see it in Ringo's face just how much Doc has intimidated him with that one simple act. The confidence slowly drains out of his eyes. A brilliant bit of acting by Michael Biehn to show with just his face just how much that bit of cup twirling really shook him.
This is an iconic Val Kilmer role..he should've won every award there is for it. The cast is full of incredible people top to bottom, the story is amazing, the director created an amazing atmosphere and tension, but also some light moments. Just a masterpiece for me.
I also thought it was awesome that Billy Bob Thornton was in it. I saw the movie maybe 10 times before I recognized him. 😂
Michael Beian should have won an award as Johnny Ringo
For me Val Kilmer's acting is the best part of this film. 41:47 And I most like that part when the other other guy says he has lots of friends and Doc says: I don't.
It’s arguably his best role of his career
Thomas Haden Church is one of the Cowboys Michael Richter also one of the Cowboys that becomes part of Wyatt Earp pose
Val Kilmer- Batman, The Doors.
Bill Paxton- Twister
Kurt Russell- Escape From New York, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes.
Dana Delaney- nurse Colleen McMurphy in China Beach tv series.
Sam Elliott- The Big Lebowski, Ghost Rider, "Never turn off Karen."
Thomas Hayden Church- Lowell Mathers in Wings tv series.
Kurt Russell's earliest roles were a couple of toy commercials. Then a cameo in an Elvis movie. "It happened at the Worlds Fair". Ironically, Kurt Russel went on to portray Elvis in a story about Elvis Presley. Also 12 Disney features before his breakout role in "Overboard" featuring his still lifelong partner Goldie Hawn.
So many actors you didn’t recognize. Micheal Biehn (Ringo) was Reese from Terminator, and Aliens, Billy Paxton was also in Aliens, Val Kilmer was Iceman from Top Gun, Heat, Kurt Russell (Wyatt) - Soldier, The Thing, Escape from NY, and LA, Johnny Madcap is Billy bob Thronton- Armageddon, Swing blade. Sam Elliott (Virgil) - Road house. There were so many other movies these actors were in. I can’t name them all in a short reply.
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliott and the rest of the crew gave an unforgettable rendition of this story. The truth lies in Tombstone, Arizona, a place you will NEVER FORGET of you visit there. Much of the story was true, with Hollywoods usual add ons. You should visit one day to really feel the atmosphere. You’ll love it. 🎉❤
"He'll Doc, I got a lot of friends."
"I don't."
Tears every time. Val Kilmer stole the show.
The man who says h*** doc I've got lots of friends, Have you ever noticed his medallion. He's wearing a Freemason's medallion Italian, I always figured he was referring to his brothers at the lodge.
Yes sir! Wyatt is very lucky for that extreme friendship with Doc. I would give my right arm to have a friendship like that.
@@brettwellman1663 Very Observant
Such a great line.
One of the best lines ever..especially with Val's drawl...
The real John Henry "Doc" Holliday was a fascinating character. Born back east and trained as a dentist, he traveled around with a partner for a while doing dentistry until the "consumption" (tuberculosis) he'd caught earlier from his mother, which was incurable back then and typically fatal, made that impossible. So, he quit the dental business and moved to the southwest where the dry weather was thought to be healthier for people with the disease. He ended up becoming a gambler and a sometime gunslinger. He befriended Wyatt Earp after saving him down in Texas. They knocked around the southwest and eventually ended up in Tombstone, AZ where the movie takes place. While the movie script takes a lot of artistic license with the facts, many of the events in the movie really happened, including the famous gunfight at the O.K. Corral.
You recognized Val Kilmer (Doc), but several other popular actors of that time were in the movie, including Michael Biehn ("Terminator", "Aliens") who played Johnny Ringo, Bill Paxton ("Terminator", "Aliens", and many more) who played Morgan Earp, the amazing Sam Elliott ("Mask", "Big Lebowski", "A Star is Born", etc.) who played Virgil Earp, Michael Rooker ("Walking Dead"), Billy Bob Thornton, Powers Boothe, Billy Zane ("Titanic"), Dana Delaney, as well as cameos from old-time actors like Charlton Heston, Harry Carey, Jr. and Robert Mitchum (narrator). Still one of my favorite movies!
and one of my favorites SAM ELLIOTT!!! 👍😃👍
You forgot Sam Elliott as Virgil Earp, the most epic voice and famous stash in Hollywood
Ever notice Dr. King Schultz in Django was a former dentist??? My daughter caught it faster than my dumb ass.
You forgot the deep voice of Sam Eliot playing Virgil Earp! 🤔😏 Oh yeah... and Charlton Heston too... :)
What's so amazing is that Val Kilmer did his research and was on point with everything. From the looks to his mannerisms. He even captured the lost Savannah, GA accent (which was a little slower than what Val Kilmer did) which was nearly gone after the Civil War.
Every time I see this movie I am blown away with how awesome it is. I love seeing the first time reactions of people that haven't seen it. She was legit crying. Movies can just be so powerful. And yeah, Doc is the best. Top 5 characters in any movie ever made I think. Val needs a makeup academy award for this
Val’s work in Salton Sea was phenomenal as well.
Hands down, one of the best movies from the 90's!
A little explanation about Doc's last line. When he looked at his bare feet and said "That's funny!", he was referring to the fact he was barefoot. He had always said he would die with his boots on, as in a gunfight. He was amazed he had survived long enough to die a natural death.
The cemetery in Tombstone is nicknamed Boot Hill for all the gunslingers that "died with their boots on" who are buried there.
Doc Holliday didn't necessarily die a natural death. It was tuberculosis that killed him.
Doc suffers from TB commonly known as consumption in those times. He does not fear dying cos he already is. The pale skin and sweat is part of the affliction.
This is a legendary tale and all the characters were real people and the story is mostly true.
Add the scene how Johnny Ringo compliments himself after shooting the priest at the wedding and quotes the Revelation verse of the pale horse rider named Death.
Doc Holliday is pale, deadly, and much better than Ringo
Nothing better than experiencing people seeing Tombstone for the first time! My dad and uncle had me watch this as a kid and it's been my favorite ever since
Billy Bob Thornton is the guy who looked familiar. This movie truly is an absolute ALL STAR cast.
“Where’s Wyatt?”
“Down by the creek. Walking on water.”
Best line ever.
Agree
I prefer “I’m your huckleberry…”
@@hadnick1 Hell yeah, both lines are great, but "I'm your huckleberry" is the most famous for sure.
“Have you ever seen that before?”
“Hell, I ain’t never heard of that before.”
@@hadnick1 It's not Huckleberry lol it's Huckle-Bearer. The Huckle is the handle on the side of a casket. In other words he was saying "I'll carry your casket once your dead" lol
Kilmer's Doc Holliday is one of the best performances I've ever seen. I've seen this movie at least a dozen times and I never tire of the way he pulls you in like a magnet whenever he's on screen
The strength of this role was the reason he was cast as Batman. Which didn't turn out to be nearly this good.
@@dawest767 his entire career was playing these kinds of parts (Real Genius, Top Gun, Heat): slick, cocky, kind of a dick but comes from a good place. He just turns it up to an 11 with this part and kills it. He should have just kept doing that for the rest of his career instead of trying and failing at Batman.
@@moviescatsmargs I don't know if it's fair to say he failed at Batman, he talks about it in his documentary. He was offered the sequel and he pissed everyone off for not taking it. He was pissed he was the straight man in that movie playing support role essentially to Jim Carrey.
@@mattkirby994 True and I would place a lot of blame on the direction and writing of that movie but his performance is kind of wooden. If that's the byproduct of his being pissed off about feeling sidelined by Carrey's star power, so be it but playing Batman is not about charisma which Kilmer had in abundance. Would have liked to see his Two-Face in that movie...
@@moviescatsmargs I don't remember everything he said about it but he discussed it pretty extensively as I recall. You should check the doc out if you haven't seen it
These were your best reactions to any of the movies you've done so far. It was a pleasure watching with you.
This, Unforgiven, High Noon, and Once Upon a Time in the West are the four must-see best westerns of all time.
Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his portrayal. Doc Holliday, while a criminal in truth, is a hero!! Vals portrayal is the best in the many of him. The "Hell's coming with me" scene gives EVERYONE goosebumps!! Tombstone is the most accurate telling of Wyatt Earp and his "Immortals". It's crazy!! Doc Holliday died from tuberculosis. Lots of people did back then. They called him "Doc" because he was a trained Dentist. LOL
Facts, Top ten character ever for me "I'm your Huckleberry" still classic AF line
Most cowboys and others in the Wild West didn't die so much from gunshot wounds, but died either from pneumonia or riding accidents.
This movie getting shafted cemented the fact the oscars are garbage to me.
Costner’s “Wyatt Earp”, which is the movie this one got shafted for, is actually a little more accurate. And the guy who plays Doc does a good job in that one too. But Tombstone is a way better film, and Kilmer’s portrayal of Doc is superior as well.
@@shalakabooyaka1480I agree.
"Unforgiven" staring and directed by the legendary Clint Eastwood is considered by many to be the best "modern" western. It won the Oscar for best picture as well as one for best director. Another great one is "Silverado".
Unforgiven!!! Amazing
SILVERADO. Absolutely.
Both are good suggestions!
Unforgiven is fantastic and a movie they should definitely see! I never saw Silverado, so I can't speak on that one.
Great
I am very surprised that neither of you have heard of 'Gunfight at the OK Coral'. When the four of them in Tombstone had the gunfight in the yard, that was the gunfight at the OK Coral. This story has been portrayed in so many movies and TV shows. The story in general was a true story, and Wyatt never even got injured during his entire career. Wyatt was married during all of this, but it was not a happy marriage, so you can see why he fell in love with the actress (the very attractive Dana Delaney). After killing the Clayton Clan, he moved to Los Angeles, retired from any public service and was a consultant in Hollywood for westerns. Many of the people he ran into in California did not believe his stories. Also, one of the young actors he tutored was a young actor in his teens named Marion Morrison - AKA John Wayne! It is told that John Wayne styled his walk after Wyatt Earp.
In his later life during the 1900s he made a living as a Western movie adviser in Hollywood.
Michael Behin, who played Ringo, was the protector of Sarah Connor, Reese. And the guy who was the table dealer who Wyatt ran off when they entered Toombstone was played by a vwry unrecognizable Billy Bob Thornton.
*_"Evidently, Mr. Ringo is an educated man.....now I really hate him."_*
Love that line.
It’s a self reflection line to Doc himself which many don’t catch onto 🙂
"Cowboys" was a general term for ranch hand. "The cowboys" was just a catchy label they gave themselves. Kind of like if a gang called themselves "the bros". It was just a label, not literally what cowboys in general were known as.
But at the time and place, working cowboys were generally called "vaqueros".
@@magnificentfailure2390 yep, i just mean that "cowboys" as we know them didn't originate from that gang, like them 2 seemed to think.
@@joeberger3441 These two seem quite oblivious to many things that should be common knowledge. In fact, I was thinking...When are these two going to realize that Doc has Tuberculosis. Considering the fact that these two graduated from a University & are school teachers, you would think they would know enough American history to be familiar with the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Back then the term ~ "Consumption" was a common term for Tuberculosis. That specific term is used in this film, but of course these two Scholars don't pick up on that. It's also shameful how Jordan uses horrendous grammar & falls back on ghetto expressions frequently. It's no wonder America's public school system is in the toilet.
@@JohnJohnson-mo4bn well that and it was directly mentioned in the introduction that he has tuberculosis lol
Cochise county cowboys.
When Wyatt Earp put Johnny Tyler in check that was damn savage! The definition of when "Real" walks up on you.
"Doc" Holliday was an actual dentist, but also suffered from tuberculosis. That is why he was always shown with sweat. And laudanum was a common medicine of that era which was quite heavy in opiate content.
Therefore it was addictive
That was why he couldn't continue practicing dentistry the tuberculosis.
"Dances With Wolves" and "The Last Of The Mohicans" are two of the best stories ever put to film. Both are reaction worthy.
While I agree that both of those movies are amazing movies that should absolutely be watched, I don't agree that you go directly from Tombstone to either of those. In my opinion, I would suggest that there are a few other movies that a newbie to the genre should watch before progressing to those somewhat less action-packed films. Young Guns, Pale Rider, and Unforgiven just to name a few.
Let’s put the vote in for both of those. All time greats.
I will also agree that both of those movies are amazing films. But Dances With Wolves (while one of my favorite movies) isn't a particularly original story. If you've seen Avatar, Fern Gully, or Pocahontas, you've basically seen Dances. But Dances did it best by far! Avatar had the effects, but Wind In His Hair's last lines make me cry every time I see that movie! And agreed, watch the theatrical release version.
One of the things about westers is they very a lot. Tombstone, Dances with Wolves, Last of the Mohicans & A Fistful of Dollars are all very different.
Pale Rider is a great one, definitely!
"Keep your babies in the house if the cowboys are in town. " That's a song Willie could've sang. ;-)
When doc was spinning his cup in that bar he was letting ringo know that drinking is his first best thing to do and shooting is a second so he's a very good shot
undeniably one of Val Kilmer's best performances of all time. he was so fitting for that character.
Kilmer stayed in-character throughout shooting. Michael Biehn (Ringo, who you might also recognize as Kyle Reese from "Terminator" and Corporal Hicks from "Aliens") was asked once what it was like to work with Val Kilmer on this film. He replied, "I've never worked with Val Kilmer. I've worked with Doc Holliday".
@@michaelccozens Michael Biehn was also in "The Abyss".
IMHO it was the best film he ever made! Better than "Topgun." (I was in the Navy then, served on an aircraft carrier, and "Topgun" had more fallacies and inaccuracies in it that it was unwatchable for me.)
"I'm your huckleberry."
In my opinion, Val Kilmer's greatest role. His portrayal as Doc Holliday was what made this film. Also, Val Kilmer wasn't even nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar, but he should have been.
#ShowStealer
He is the best Doc Holliday I have seen
"Prettiest man I ever saw". He was right too. lol He's "purty".
👏👏👏
As much as I love Dennis Quaid, his Doc Holliday doesn’t even come close to the brilliance of Val Kilmer’s Doc.
Val should have won an Oscar, a Big Bird, and an Ernie &Bert.
This was a movie based on as told by Wyatt Earp. John Wayne met Wyatt Earp in Hollywood in the early 1920s. If you watch a John Wayne western you are watching him do his impression of Wyatt Earp.
John Wayne would have been pretty young. A teenager at best.
@@reaper7264 He was 20 years old and was just starting out. Wyatt Earp was in his 70s or 80 by then. Matter of fact I don't think he was going by his stage name of John Wayne then I think he was still using his real name. Marion Morrison. You can look up the interview where John Wayne talks about it on TH-cam. Check out
Yes! Dances With Wolves is Fiyah! Also, ya gotta watch Heat w Deniro & Pacino, also Untouchables w Costner & Deniro...
A little trivia from real life. After the vendetta ride, Wyatt settled down with Josephine Marcus and they were together for the rest of his life until he died in 1929. They wound up in Los Angeles in the early 1920s and Wyatt liked to hang out at the movie studios. There was a young prop man and bit player who was fascinated with Wyatt's stories and would listen to him for hours. He was especially impressed with the measured way that Wyatt talked, and adopted Wyatt's way of speaking as his own. The young prop man's name was Marion Morrison but he later changed his name to John Wayne. So when you listen to the slow and measured way that John Wayne talked, you are listening to a close approximation of Wyatt Earp's speech pattern.
I didn't know that about John Wayne, thanks for sharing
That's awesome! Thanks for that. 😀
Love this movie!
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Michael Biehn, Powers Booth, Dana Delaney, Thomas Haden Church, Michael Rooker, Sam Elliott, Bill Paxton, Jason Priestley, Billy Zane, Stephen Lang, John Corbett, Joanna Pacula, Jon Tenney, Harry Carey Jr., Billy Bob Thornton, and Charlton Heston star in this epic western film, based loosely on the life of Wyatt Earp.
Narrated by Robert Mitchum
Buck Taylor as well!
Right! Talk about an all star cast! 😍
I've not seen any reactor that knows of Charlton Heston.
That's an impressive list of names. But you forgot a very important one. That's right, you guessed it........FRANK STALLONE.
All of it held together by Kurt Russell, he stepped in and took charge of the production of this film when it started to fall apart.
When you guys commented about the lightning for the play; it compelled me to drop some knowledge. I’m the old days they used lime in liquid form in bottles and used candles to create the lighting! Also, this is how the term limelight came about. You should do a reaction to Rush’s song Limelight after learning this fact. I promise, you won’t be disappointed!!
If anyone believes that the movie exaggerated Ikes wickedness Josie Earp wrote in her memoirs that " Ike Clanton is the only person that I ever knew with no redeeming qualities "
Going from "This is a genre I would never watch." to "That was absolutely amazing!" was wonderful to see. Tombstone is indeed an excellent film.
I’m actually named after the real Earp brothers and my first name is Wyatt and I was named after Wyatt Earp and Wyatt is my first name and I was really given that name when I was a baby and so Wyatt is my first name and I was named after Wyatt Earp and even though my name isWyatt kahoalii Aiu but my first name is Wyatt and my name is famous and so I’m named after Wyatt Earp
I hate westerns. Nothing against them, just really not my cup of tea. After a few shorts, I gotta see this one just for Kilmer’s performance. I can understand their sentiment.
Kilmer murdered this role. In the best of ways. And the dealer in the one scene is Billy Bob Thornton. The Shakespearean actor is Billy Zane (might remember him from titanic). Michael Biehn is well known for Terminator. He was the guy that came back to save Sarah Connor.
Frank Stallone was Ed Bailey the one Doc Holliday stabbed at the poker game and let's not forget the one and only Charlton Heston as Rancher Henry hooker
Also, Zane was The Mummy.
@@rostand5264 No, he wasn't. That was Arnold Vosloo.
@@rostand5264 Zane was in Titanic
Michael Biehn AND Bill Paxton were in Terminator.
Michael Biehn AND Bill Paxton were in Tombstone.
Michael Biehn AND Bill Paxton were in Aliens.
Yet I don't think they'll be making any more movies together :^(
My Dad and Mom raised us 4 kids in the country. We had every animal you can imagine including horses. He was a western nut. My sister and I won a lot of ribbons and trophies with our horses in jumper classes. Tombstone is my favorite western. I own so many western movies I lost count. I am 70 years old and miss my horses very much! ❤
One of the few movies I can ALWAYS watch when it is on and never be tired of. This was hands down Val Kilmers best role and the fact he did not get an Oscar for it is a shame. What throat cancer has done to him since then is an even bigger shame.
To me, this is the greatest movie ever made. When they're sitting after the fight in the creek and Doc says 'Wyatt Earp is my friend', that is the VERY POINT of this movie.
The fact that Jay finally realized Doc was played by Val Kilmer at 33:25 while lightning strikes above their heads in the scene is hilarious and perfectly timed! 😂😂😂
Yeah but they didn't notice that Ringo was actor Michael Bein who was Reese in Terminator
Lmao! Man I had no idea neither that Val was in this film until I saw the trailer. And man I was not prepared for just how amazing he was in this role. He got so into it and it’s soooo different from his other roles. The trick to appreciating his performance in this is to watch some of his other popular films and then watch this movie.
@@rcherry1978 They did not realize the dealer was Billy Bob Thorton, but "he seemed familiar" thought that was funny.
No one wants to talk about Ike tho?
This event really happened but not exactly like the screenwriter wrote it Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for his performance as Doc Holliday.The whole cast was excellent and its the best western I have ever seen .I love Ambers reaction she gets so emotional ...lol ..great reaction ....great movie 😊
Another one of my favorite movies. Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his performance of Doc Holliday.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid..Paul Newman and Robert Redford..also based on real outlaws. It's iconic, two of the biggest movie stars to ever live, they're incredible. Gorgeous movie, fun, action, tension..it's got it all.
Oh yes, 💯 agree
Great movie, Jennifer. Another western that is based on real characters is Young Guns. And what's more, the stuff that seems like dramatization - I'm thinking of the scene where the chest gets thrown out of the second floor of a burning house and Billy the Kid comes out shooting - actually happened.
That was an awesome movie.
@@paulmiller3469 Yes, I love Young Guns, too. I think they'd really enjoy them. I was in my 20s back then, those were all the hot young actors, and I used to wait on Christian Slater regularly where I worked in LA..fun times. And of course they watched Bon Jovi doing 'Blaze of Glory' already
Val Kilmer in one of the best performances of his career. Most definitely should have gotten an Oscar for this role.
The Bird Cage theater in Tombstone still exists and still has hundreds of bullet holes in the ceiling and walls from patrons who enjoyed the shows and fired their pistols in approval.
You cut my favorite line. When Robert Mitchum, who was no flash in the pan cowboy in his own right, is talking about Wyatt' s funeral the last line is "and Tom Mix wept!" Now, Tom Mix is a name most people today might not be so familiar with but he was one of the first, if not THE first, big cowboy star all the way back to silent films. He was the template that all western stars of those days copied. John Wayne included. The idea of Tom Mix crying in public was unheard of but it happened!
Dances With Wolves is not a "western" as most people think of them. It's EPIC and historic and military and beautiful and sad and a love story, etc. Must watch.
You find out something new everyday. I never knew people that it was a western. I hate to know how they classify Last of the Mohicans.
Man, that movie made me cry like a lil bit*h. (Don´t hurt my mules..)
It fits into that genre because of the time period.
Accurate explanation of that one. Nicely summed up. 👍🏼
The native chief should have won that Oscar.
The accent of Doc Holliday was a Georgian southern aristocrat accent that Val Kilmer managed to find via a dialect coach named Tim Monich. This dialect hadn't been spoken by a large population since the civil war, but Tim Monich actually had a recording with that very accent on it that he sent to Val. The accent is considered to be a dead accent, it's that rare.
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I've watched this reaction video so many times. It's one of my favorites from any channel! I never get tired of it. Mainly because of how invested you were in the characters and all of the emotion you see on your faces. Just want to Thank you two for bringing so much joy.
God bless you and your family.❤
So glad you all enjoyed it, Tombstone is my fav movie of all time!
It is the only "western" that I Love unless you count blazing saddles
Just to clarify, the "Cowboys" was a gang, like in the movie. However, there also were cowboys as a profession (basically a cowhand or rancher), which was not affiliated with the gang. A person could have been a cowboy (the job), without being a Cowboy (the gang member).
Its was, in real life. Almost like a union at first. Cowboys protecting Cowboys. . . . Sadly, it quickly became a criminal enterprise in real life. Racketeering, extortion, murder. You name it.
Speaking of which, "The Cowboys" with John Wayne would be a great western for them to react to!
@@porflepopnecker4376 That's the only John Wayne movie I like -- "The Cowboys" is excellent.
It was the Cochise county cowboys.
Almost-but-not-quite recognizing Billy Bob Thornton in 90s movies is perfectly understandable. His appearance and the characters he played changed so drastically from role to role.
He was chubby then ... He lost a lot of weight!
It's usually not facial recognition either, it's almost always "wait a second, I know that hick-ass voice..."
First show I ever saw him in was The Outsiders tv series which was set as a sequel to the movie. It was also David Arquette's first role playing Two-Bit
I’ve watched this movie a hundred times and tonight was when I realized that was Billy Bob Thornton. It was also the first time I realized Charlton Heston is also in this.
Ever seen the thriller Don't Breathe? I looked up the terrifying Blind Man's name. Could NOT BELIEVE it was the dude playing cowardly ass Ike.
This is what happens when great writing is given to great actors.
One of the best ever, so glad yall watched it.
its great to see you guys watching this gem of a movie, its one of my all time favorite movies. most people dont get the meaning of the meeting with doc holiday and ringo when ringo does the dance with the pistole he's trying to show doc that he is better than him, but when doc not only does the exact moves that ringo did but with a small cup, he was actually letting ringo know that not only did he memorize the moves that ringo did but that he can out do him by doing it with a small off weighted cup.
The saloon scene with Doc Holliday spinning his cup was so impressive because he was copying Ringo's moves 1 to 1, his eyes were starting back and forth because he was studying the moves carefully.
That's why Ringo got so serious and intense looking halfway through it, Doc showed his skill and sharpness without even having to draw.
He also did the whole routine with the cup because he knew they were trying to get him to draw so they could kill him. So he used the cup to not give them an excuse.
Had Ringo shook from that moment on.
As fast as he was, I doubt they would've been able to do anything with him anyway@@michaelmorris3672
Fun fact, Val Kilmer originally was supposed to twirl his gun in response , but he suggested that the day of the shooting that he twirl the cup
He also got to see how Ringo draws and read his tells, but didn't let Ringo see how he does it
Doc Holliday was the definition of Ride or Die with Wyatt. Craziest story that was true from the movie was the river shootout. Wyatt Earp really did do that. One of the Cowboys was hit and made his way to a barn and told the owner that he saw it all go down, and how amazing it was, before dying.
Their friendship ended because Doc wouldnt stop teasing Wyatt about marrying a jew. Not joking that’s what actually happened lmao
If you look up on TH-cam Doc Holliday you learn a whole lot more about that man he was exactly what they say he is but it's a whole lot deeper than the movies
And I believe the exchange at the ok corral, where he stands with his arms spread and said "Your a daisy if you do?" actually happened to?
In truth there was no river where Wyatt shot Curly Bill.
Doc always thought he'd pass in a fight with his boots on & that is why he thought it was funny
I was reading a book about this. Apparently the consensus about Ringo was that he had been ambushed. The rancher that found his body said that his boots were still on his horse, and he had a couple of bullets from his belt that seem to have been stuck like he was scrambling for them.
Doc's final scene crushes me. Every time.
"There's no such thing as a perfect life, Wyatt.... there's just life. Now go on and live it. Say goodbye to me, go grab that spirited actress and make her your own. Take that and don't look back. Live every second, live right on through the end. Live Wyatt, live for me. Wyatt, if you were ever truly my friend, or if ya ever had just the slightest of feelin' for me, leave now, leave now, please."
Daniel Meeker I love that line, but I think Wyatt said "normal life". But Doc's response would be the same exact thing.
It’s when he looks down at his feet and is like “I’ll be damned”, dude figured he was going to die with his boots on probably to a gun but instead, passed in a bed, bootless and sick.
Dances with Wolves is a fantastic film. As an 11 year old, I sit through it 3 times in 2 days at the cinema. It was the film that made me want to make movies.
As for Tombstone, one of the best of the Western revival kicked off by Dances with Wolves, and yes, Val Kilmer shsould have got an Oscar.
Definitely try Dances With Wolves. A wonderful movie.
yeah i was in junior high when we saw DANCES W WOLVES in the theater on a field trip ...loved it so much i begged my mom to take me back a day later !!! so gooooood
Can't believe I was 1 when this movie came out in 93 and to this day it's still an amazing movie.
I love Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison, he owns his roles so well. Just perfect here.
Doc Holliday was an educated Southern gentleman , and a dentist. He suffered from taburculos and was was a known poker player. He was good with a gun, and always changed anyone because he didn't want his illness to win. In the end he die of it. And the rest is legendary.
Just making sure y’all know that these are historical characters that actually existed 😊 Great cast! Look up the real Wyatt Earp.. Kurt Russell looks almost identical in this movie!
I've been to Tombstone 5 times!
@@jamesalexander5623 Never been, but would love to one day!
@@hellokittyx7 My Brother lives in Chandler AZ near Phoenix and if I'm out there for my Birthday we go to Tombstone .... My Birthday is the same date as the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and I let them know it at the reenactment and we get a front row seat! At Boothill you can see the graves of the guys who were killed in the Gunfight!
@@jamesalexander5623 That is so cool! I live in South Carolina on the east coast, so it’s kind of hard for me to get out there!
A few "little known facts" for you: The Shoot Out at the OK Coral actually happened. Who fired the first shot is in question, though. It still stands in Tombstone AZ to this day (it may be a recreation, though, but the place where it all happened is well known). Wyatt Earp was a consultant in Hollywood for Westerns for many years. Doc Holliday was a licensed dentist. He was called a "lunger" 'cause he had Consumption, what we know today as Tuberculosis, which specifically attacks the lungs. Sam Elliot (Virgil) has been in many a Hollywood Western.
Yes, you are right. When I was in high school, I ate at the Tombstone City Park most days, the high school was less than half a mile away. The park is next to the OK Corral, the gunfight was directly behind the park.
It seems like Doc Holliday found his way to Glenwood Springs, Colorado thinking the spring water would help.
@@nickma71 I seem to remember eating someplace in Colorado as a kid and there was a hole in the wall that “they said” was a shootout with Dic Holiday.
the actual gunfight was in a vacant lot on Fremont Street next to C.S. Fly's photography studio which is down the street from the rear of the OK Coral
@@G-grandma_Army I grew up near there and was a Police officer in Glenwood Springs. There is a crappy bar called Doc's. His grave is up on the hill above the town. The hospital that he was in is now a kind of gross apartment building
I know this is late, but Doc Holliday was related to Margaret Mitchell, who wrote Gone With the Wind. Doc was represented in the book 54:14 partially as Ashley Wilkes. Both had a love for music, literature, fine art, and cards. The woman Doc loved, but couldn't marry, was his cousin Melanie who became a nun when they couldn't marry. He carried a love for her for the rest of his life. Margaret Mitchell wrote Melanie and Ashley marrying as homage to the love Doc Holliday had for his cousin Melanie. Scarlett was the one instead mourning for a love she couldn't have.
Val Kilmer is such an amazing actor. The reason it took you a while to figure out who is playing dock Holiday is because Val Kilmer literally becomes whoever he’s portraying in a movie. This movie is a great example of that another great example is the movie The Doors where he transforms into Jim Morrison.
Michael Biehn, who played the character Johnny Ringo, was in both Terminator as Kyle Reese, the guy who came back to save Sarah Conner, and also in Aliens, as Corporal Hicks. Bill Paxton, who was one of the Earp brothers was also in Aliens as Private Hudson.
Wyatt earp’s wife was an opium addict, and that’s what her sister in law gave her when she got off the train. Doc Holliday was a Dentist turned gambler, and had tuberculosis (hence the nickname “lunger”).
The gunfight right after Wyatt is sworn in as a peace officer is the infamous “Fight at the O.K. Corral”. (Added: Ike Clanton actually was never hunted down and killed by Earp. I believe he died later either killed in a robbery, or hanged after being found guilty)
Edited to add: the next cowboy movie needs to be The Outlaw Josie Wales!
Love Outlaw Josey Wales. Great movie. Clint Eastwood is full on Clint Eastwood.
Mattie suffered from severe migraines, hence her dependency to laudanum(opium).
Bill Paxton was also in the Terminator, He was one of the punks that Arnie kills right in the beginning, the one with the Tire Tread marks on his face...
@@broodhunter2 Holycow… I forgot that!
The actor who played Ike was also in Gettysburg, which is a great movie for history buffs. Sam Elliot, who played Virgil, is in it as well. It has an all-star cast, and it’s pretty epic.
I’d also recommend Alien/Aliens for a sci-fi movie. Like the Terminator, the sequel is better than the original, but they’re both really good.
Makes it even better when you know that this movie is pretty darn accurate, historically.
Side note: It wasn't cancer. Doc Holliday had tuberculosos, aka "consumption" of the lungs.
You're half right. The historical person Doc Holliday had tuberculosis. Val Kilmer in real life also had throat cancer.
@@donpietruk1517 Didn't know that about Val. So was his role in the new Top Gun movie, which is an Admiral with throat cancer played the way it was because he was really ill at the filming? In the movie he talks to Tom Cruise via a computer because the character has throat cancer and can't speak. How very curious.
@@donpietruk1517 I was referring to Doc, not Val. :)
@@rnrhodes2368 Yes, Val Kilmer can no longer speak in real life so they wrote his character that way in the film.
@@rnrhodes2368 Yes,Val has been fighting throat cancer for 6 or 7 years.😪
The good, the bad, and the ugly. Harder they fall, Younguns.
It’s a joy to see people enjoy this film for the first time. Every time Wyatt steps off the train in his first scene, I see my father.
Val Kilmer put in one of the greatest movie performances ever. His imagining of Doc Holiday should/will go down in history along with the greats. Absolutely epic. This and Edward Nortons performance in Primal Fear are two of the best acting roles I've seen.
Edward Norton was incredible in Primal Fear, and in Fight Club.
@@xzonia1 American History X too.
The story is based on actual events at Tombstone, AZ and the OK Corral. The Earps, Doc , Johnny Ringo, etc. were all real people. The resemblance between Kurt Russell and some photos of Wyatt Earp is amazing.
I'm from that part of the state and one time I finally decided to make the trek to Ringo's grave. It's about 15 miles or so off the main highway, highway 191, down a partially paved road, located next to a creek among some trees on a private ranch. There's a public access gate that allows anyone to just go in and down a path to the creek side. The grave is a rectangular shaped low pile of rocks.
@@jimmyboy131 I’m up in Tucson, I love love this movie but definitely gotta make the small trek down myself just to finally come full circle. Thanks for letting us know Ringos grave I’m gonna check it out
The two truly baddest men in Wild West history: 1) John Wesely Hardin, 2) Wild Bill Hickock & 3) William Barclay Masterson, aka "Bat" Masterson. Masterson killed John Wagner, the man who killed his brother Ed + he also killed the man who killed Legendary Dance Hall Queen "Dora Hand" Masterson killed at least four others in Gunfights and he credited Wyatt Earp for his longevity because Wyatt advised Masterson: "Being fast is good but accuracy is what counts..." Sage advice!
The only thing the movie took liberties with is that the evidence was that Johnny Ringo killed himself by that big oak tree. People were suspicious of Doc but Johnny had lost everything, all his friends, and even his horse had run off.
@@bobby33x97 you left out Clay Allison at either position two or three. but he Was mean, unlike Hickok.
Wyatt Earp was a brave man, and lucky, he never got shot in all the gunplay he was involved in(naturally NOT as much as Hollywood makes out). A lawman, boxing referee, prospector, buffalo hunter,gambler, consultant on early western movies,and also... a pimp, con man, at least once a horse thief, and technically a murderer.
Wyant Earp lived to be in his late 80's when he passed away in Ca in 1929 and Tom Mix one of the great Hollywood Western Movie Actors from the 1920's attended the funeral and wept like a baby ! He said that Wyant Earp was the Greatest Lawman that ever lived !!!
I'm so glad you both loved this movie as much as so many of us did. Val Kilmer was robbed that he wasn't nominated for an Oscar for his performance here. Watching both of you light up as you watched it brought a smile to my face, thanks for the great reaction. All the best to you two!
Val also should of won an Oscar for his portrayal of Jim Morrison in the movie The Doors🔥🔥🔥🔥
Everyone else has made great comments, so I will just say this: Laudunum was a common painkiller sold over the counter in the old west made primarily of alcohol, morphine and opium. It was considered to be "a harmless sedative" that could treat a wide variety of afflictions
Doc had bronchitis and pneumonia and went west to dry out, but he was dying slowly. Never buck a man who just plain doesn't care. And Doc was dying; he had nothing to lose.
Billy Behan thought that being a ' sheriff ' made him special. To use today's vernacular, he was just another bi@#h.
@@jefftappan7973 No, Doc had tuberculosis (that's why you keep hearing him called "lunger" in the movie. A derogatory term used for tuberculosis patients at the time and why he is seen coughing blood), which at the time was untreatable. Of course it's highly treatable now with modern antibiotics
"I'm afraid the strain was more than he could bear"
The term 'shooting from the hip' comes from when the very fastest gunfighters would send a bullet at the target as soon as the firearm had cleared the holster, rather than bringing the weapon in front of the body. That split second could make all the difference.
The medicine Wyatt's wife was taking was called laudanum. It was a tincture of opium. (Tinctures are made by soaking the organic material in alcohol until the active compounds are extracted.) It was one of the quack "medicines" prescribed for all sorts of ailments mainly because it just got you very stoned so you forgot you had whatever problem you had. Highly addictive, obviously, and that was his wife's problem - she'd been prescribed the stuff for "nervous exhaustion" (a common way of saying she was unhappy with her life), and she got hooked on it. A common circumstance back then, when heroin was prescribed for toothaches and cocaine for headaches. Western medicine (literally), yay. 😂
Also, you'd be surprised at the success of Shakespeare in the old West. Remember how culturally uneventful these men's lives were - those saloon performances were one of the few types of entertainment available. (Political speeches were another; they could literally go on for hours.) When an acting troupe came through, it was a big deal. There would definitely be some acting up as you saw there. After all, these guys were bored AND excited, a potent combination. But once they settle down, the audiences could be surprisingly involved. One of my favorite stories concerns a performance of Othello in the old West (I think it was Texas), wherein the actor playing Iago (the villain who talks to the audience in order to spread his guilt around) was so good that a man stood up, yelled at him that he was a bastard, and _SHOT HIM DEAD._ Right there in front of everyone. Shakespeare is a mighty force, believe it.
😳 Wow. I guess it's true what they say. "When you die at the Palace, you really DIE at the Palace."
I bet the critics were like, "Due to the unfortunate murder of Bill Shakespeare, the shooting of the Iago could be considered justifiable homicide."
Or
"This is the first foray of the director's experimentation with audience participation, and it has been concluded that there should be LESS participation from the audience."
Eventually to be largely replaced with Valium, et. al.
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The (mostly) true story of the gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Tombstone, Arizona is a real place I have been lucky enough to visit. Tourist destination now, but Wyatt, Doc, and the other characters in this movie were real people that actually experienced some version of these events. One of my all time favorite films.
Your faces when Doc said " I'm your huckleberry" was a treat
Earp died in 1929. Imagine coming from an era of stage coaches then seeing the railroad, cars, airplanes, radio and movies.
Val Kilmer --- totally amazing performance. Laudanum was basically opium in a bottle, along with one or two other things. It was sold without a prescription in that day and time and people used it for all kinds of pain relief, since Tylenol and Ibuprofen hadn't made it on the scene, and aspirin was a few years away (although willow bark powder had the same active ingredient and was being used by doctors). Mattie, Wyatt's wife, was hooked on the stuff. Opiod addiction is nothing new, in other words. Love the reaction. This is a classic Western. Peace!
"Unforgiven" with Clint Eastwood is a genius movie.
Also, "Ravenous" and "Blood Tomahawk" are two movies that mix the Western movie trope with horror. I think both are brilliant movies that show what a good script and good acting can do to bring a new sense of tension and terror when heroes with six shooters and shotguns have to fight vampires and cannibals.
Ravenous was a brilliant movie, I agree.
@@kevinhooper3003 And the soundtrack is 10/10. I would almost recommend the movie based purely on how good the music is.
I don't think there has ever been a more accurate depiction of love between two straight men in the history of film. No bravado, no posturing or Hollywood cliches, just a real depiction of platonic love between Doc and Wyatt. "Men don't have emotions." No, we just express them differently.
I wanted to add one more thing. Doc quick draw ability is a trick. With enough practice one can become accurate at shooting from the hip. Most people when they shoot they fully extend their arms, aim then pull the trigger. Which is far too slow. Doc would draw aim, then pull the trigger without extended his arm and that is why he was so quick. It's like magic. Doc was smart. So he skipped steps.
I'm proud to say that I had a friend like Doc Holiday. His name was Douglas Arthur Davies. We were friends from the time I was 9 until I was 21 and he was murdered. I miss him everyday. There is a picture of him and I above my head as I type this. He was my wing man, my roommate and my best friend. Rest In Peace Little Dougie. 🙏
Tombstone is epic. Truly one of the greatest films of all time. At the end when Doc looks at his feet and says, "Well, isn't that funny," it's because gunslingers were known for "dying with their boots on." Yet there he was lying in the bed with his bare feet. The cowboys and others called him "lung-er" because he had tuberculosis.
Dances With Wolves, Legends of the Fall, Australia, The Patriot, and Gladiator are all fantastic historical dramas (with enough action to keep Jay happy).
Tombstone is my favorite Western of all time glad yall seen it
All star cast! Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott, Val Kilmer, Bill Paxton. I love westerns but THIS, this is my favorite. Glad you guys enjoyed it too! 💙