i dont know if anyones ready to admit this yet but mitchell is on another level to even Tom right now , WSM is literally just one competition of many but it carries the weight of the person being crowned "worlds strongest man" its just a title. My opinion is the worlds strongest man is the person who consistenly wins shows and dominates , that man is Mitchell Hooper by a LONG shot.
WSM is ridiculous in today's world of online shows and all the e-media. Organizers should change the way they do the whole thing or they'll become history too fast. They're already not standing the competition from AC and Shaw
Mitch is much better with his prep and overall consistency compared to Tom…..or anyone else for that matter. Tom seems to always be in a wave type pattern on competition day. You never know if he’s going to be in a valley or peak come game time….the exception being WSM. But with so many outstanding shows now the luster has definitely dulled on WSM. Honestly I think if the Shaw Classic isn’t the biggest title currently it will be in three years.
I kinda agree, but I still think WSM winner is WSM simple as that. Tom beat Hooper twice in Giants live last year, and was only a log press away from beating him in SMOE, and only lost Rogue due to the ridiculous bull pull. Only margins prevented Tom from beating Hooper 4 times last year. But it would still be ridiculous to start debating which of them was World's Strongest Man.
@@davidp2391 Tom will be one of the greats but that be enough for him. He has done himself proud with the challenges he had faced in his younger days. What's scary he is still improving
I think, one aspect that works against Mitch getting many views on his follow up video is, that the amount of good info can be too much for the common viewer - if it gets too technical, "only" the more hardcore strongman fans will watch - but all the potential viewers, who just want to be entertained, stay away. I think, that that balance between entertainment and education might cost a man like Mitchell Hopper a lot of views. Sad, because he does a LOT of good for the sport. Great video. Keep it up 👍👍👍
You guys hit the nail on the head with Bibi, that guy needs to compete in competitions not just going for a world record. Its a shame too since he is a freak athlete.
Eddie’s axel to me is significantly more impressive. Hooper double dipped while Eddie didn’t even single dip. It was pure pressing strength. But on the flip side hooper’s overall ability is unmatched. He went on to hit other records and win the show. Amazing.
I believe that the reason why Mitch doesn't get as many views as expected after hitting multiple world records is because he's difficult to like. Many think he's arrogant, some say it's confidence. But the thing that I don't see being pointed out is that he seems overly calculated. Something about him feels inauthentic. He's obviously one of the most gifted modern strongmen, but being a great athlete isn't enough to guarantee a bunch of views.
Really looking forward to SMOE now. I'm surprised though to see Lucas Hatton competing this weekend at NASM. It doesn't seem like he's allowing himself much time for recovery.
Eddie Hall was the best at breaking records because it was not a question of technique but brute force. What sets Strongman apart from other sports is just that, it's all about brute strength.
@@Ryan-wx1bi Stongman requires technique, but you can lift an implement however you want, as long as you lift it. I'm a powerlifter, a change in technique can add many kg to your movement, it's not pure brute force, or why do you think sumo is used in the deadlift? Why is a low bar used in the squat or a wide grip on the bench plus the arch in the back?
I think maybe people have 'event fatigue' with some of the Giants Live events. Oh, the axle deadlift and the wrecking ball hold again. It's like they only have 10 pieces of equipment and they're not interested in experimenting or trying anything new.
Yes, the only time limit was that it had to be reasonable and that was said to be in the 10 to 15 minute range. Loz talked about, Mitch talked about it, Tom talked it about. Mitch followed the rules of the event, just like all the other competitors.
Everyone had that opportunity. Tom mentioned that he did not believe taking a 5 minute break would have helped him recover enough in the event. Mitch knew what he needed and used it.
Sadly Mateusz Kieliszkowski will probably be added to the list of strongest men never to win WSM or any major title because of how inconsistent & low his deadlift is relative to other guys like Hooper or Stoltman.
Won WUS wich that year was above WSM. Maybe is WUS, the competition, the one added to the list of "better mayor comps of strongman that for some reason people forgett about", right next to Fortissimus and IFSA strongman. Is the same with Poundstone, for example, people go like "oh but he never won anything mayor" when he won the Arnold´s, IFSA and Fortissimus, or my dude Vytautas Lalas who also won the Arnolds´. Picture that, people forgett the Arnold´s exist, the Arnold´s!.
@@janoycresva276But won WUS, Wich was the equivalent to IFSA. And no, a lot of people, and I really mean a lot, ignore there is something else but WSM and many outright ignore what guys like Mateusz or Poundstone have done somewhere else
@@janoycresva276International competition at the height of WSM. The point is, people act like Mateusz never won anything big, but he did, unlike say Evan Singleton who has actually never won anything big
I don't really have anything to say about this show, besides they need to consider making it a 2 day which are a lot harder to win and therefore more prestigious, even though 2 day shows are not typical for Giants Live.
Not enough new people coming in. Was good three years ago when wide pav came through but it’s just tom- Mitch now. Thor just hovering in the background. It’s hard to make the jump to the top tier you need sponsors and access to the best juice
Mitch just doesn't have a magnetic personality like many other Strongmen, which may be why his channel doesn't get as many views as others. He also admitted that people think he's arrogant and has talked about some video series that viewers don't like. The videos he's done comparing himself to the all-time greats, is not a good look in my opinion. I don't know if he comes up with these ideas himself, or if someone else is feeding him ideas. It's like he's trying too hard to constantly prove himself and be accepted. I was lucky enough to meet him in person last year and he is a very very nice guy. He just hasn't found what will really click on his TH-cam page.
I think part of it is his motto: lift heavy be kind. I think we can admit that if you are a bit more “spicy” of a strong man you get more views. Case in point, Eddie Hall.
Unfortunately that’s the world we live in now. It’s changed so much even in the last 5 years. It’s now more important what you do away from competitions
I think Mitch’s strange video recently that was an ad basically hurt his viewership. It’s hard to quantify, but he has just been so grass roots and honest, but that video felt fake and it was very off brand for him.
Personally I just don't care about anything WSM or giants live so I don't watch now rogue Arnold's strongest man on earth I love I find they are just run better
You guys need to know they (the guy from Canada's coach) think Giants live should give them a private view of there events. THAT WILL BIG TIME BREAK GIANTS LIVE NOW. STOLTMAN ARE GOING TO HAVE A EVENT NOW. I SEEN AN VIDEO I THINK 12 HOURS AGO
PS I watch alot of strongman channels. The guy has been untrueful about he's strongman history. He didn't just drop in an win dig. Many of us stopped watching his coaches channel on the untrue told about the guy! IF YOU GUYS WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T LIKE THE UNTRUSTED TEAM.
1:13 I like Tom's take on the event. Tom's is an we can overcome guy. The other guy talks down to us. Tom's on a plan he will win the one he's planning on winning! PS I UNDERSTAND THAT GUY I SPENT 50 YEARS PUMPING HEAVYWEIGHT MOST DIDN'T
His coach put down Tom's coach then said he they have a child with autism said 🍁 guys coach so he thinks he understands better then team Tom. 🍁 guy coach go up to the winners of events an trying to get them pay his to train them. ONLY THE TOP THREE COACH IS NOT ON IT AN LET'S SEE HIS KID IN A CROWD DOING TASKS.
Glad to have a follow up even if it's late. Thanks lads.
@@mediaproof960 thank you for watching 😊👊
Mitch, Tom and Thor at the SMOE will be epic!
And even with those three titans I could see someone like Trey or Evan taking it.
i dont know if anyones ready to admit this yet but mitchell is on another level to even Tom right now , WSM is literally just one competition of many but it carries the weight of the person being crowned "worlds strongest man" its just a title. My opinion is the worlds strongest man is the person who consistenly wins shows and dominates , that man is Mitchell Hooper by a LONG shot.
I'll say Hooper is better than Tom, not by a long shot though. If Hooper hadn't hurt he himself he would've won by 2 points at most.
Maybe but the title of WSM almost stops u from training consistently Tom has to do alot of PR stuff nowadays but hey he still does OK
WSM is ridiculous in today's world of online shows and all the e-media. Organizers should change the way they do the whole thing or they'll become history too fast. They're already not standing the competition from AC and Shaw
Mitch is much better with his prep and overall consistency compared to Tom…..or anyone else for that matter. Tom seems to always be in a wave type pattern on competition day. You never know if he’s going to be in a valley or peak come game time….the exception being WSM. But with so many outstanding shows now the luster has definitely dulled on WSM. Honestly I think if the Shaw Classic isn’t the biggest title currently it will be in three years.
I kinda agree, but I still think WSM winner is WSM simple as that.
Tom beat Hooper twice in Giants live last year, and was only a log press away from beating him in SMOE, and only lost Rogue due to the ridiculous bull pull. Only margins prevented Tom from beating Hooper 4 times last year. But it would still be ridiculous to start debating which of them was World's Strongest Man.
It's very good that Tom made his video as well.
The Spicy Militia goes overboard with their dedication. And it turns people off.
Jmo
Agree. I like the Stoltman brothers, but I can't stand the fans
Tom could be so much better if his mind wasn't weak and his family didn't coddle him. But he will never be the great he could have been
@@davidp2391 Tom will be one of the greats but that be enough for him. He has done himself proud with the challenges he had faced in his younger days. What's scary he is still improving
@@davidp2391 his mind isn't weak it just takes him time for him to process like most autistic people.
Lucas Hatton can get the Log Record, Look at his 211 Yesterday at North America's Strongest Man, He's an unbelievable presser.
@@Vipinnnn17 maybe 😊
Eddie record was definitely the best. More in the tank. Tom and Mitch are great for the sport
I think, one aspect that works against Mitch getting many views on his follow up video is, that the amount of good info can be too much for the common viewer - if it gets too technical, "only" the more hardcore strongman fans will watch - but all the potential viewers, who just want to be entertained, stay away.
I think, that that balance between entertainment and education might cost a man like Mitchell Hopper a lot of views. Sad, because he does a LOT of good for the sport.
Great video. Keep it up 👍👍👍
Was waiting for this. Thank you.
@@christopherp.8485 thank you for watching 👊
Thanks for the video guys, I like the 10-15 min videos and never watch other channels that are 50- 60 mins plus, too long in my opinion.
thank you
Good video guys I think this was GREAT! Agree on the timing and you guys can better break things down! Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
Thank you brother 👊
You guys hit the nail on the head with Bibi, that guy needs to compete in competitions not just going for a world record. Its a shame too since he is a freak athlete.
Eddie’s axel to me is significantly more impressive. Hooper double dipped while Eddie didn’t even single dip. It was pure pressing strength. But on the flip side hooper’s overall ability is unmatched. He went on to hit other records and win the show. Amazing.
I believe that the reason why Mitch doesn't get as many views as expected after hitting multiple world records is because he's difficult to like. Many think he's arrogant, some say it's confidence. But the thing that I don't see being pointed out is that he seems overly calculated. Something about him feels inauthentic. He's obviously one of the most gifted modern strongmen, but being a great athlete isn't enough to guarantee a bunch of views.
aggree 100%. to me he is a big turn off.
He's not even smug enough to hate like a heel, where ppl can hate watch.
@@CatNerfer3000 Haha, interesting comparision. But fitting.
Always interesting.
Well said bros
Really looking forward to SMOE now. I'm surprised though to see Lucas Hatton competing this weekend at NASM. It doesn't seem like he's allowing himself much time for recovery.
A great shame Evan 🦖Singelton got injured. Mitch, Tom & Pavlo put on a good show. How good was Andrew Flyn?
@@andrewgilbertson5356 for his first Giants Live competition, he was pretty good.
Eddie Hall was the best at breaking records because it was not a question of technique but brute force. What sets Strongman apart from other sports is just that, it's all about brute strength.
What are you talking about? All strongman lifts take technique. Power lifting is brute strength
@@Ryan-wx1bi Stongman requires technique, but you can lift an implement however you want, as long as you lift it.
I'm a powerlifter, a change in technique can add many kg to your movement, it's not pure brute force, or why do you think sumo is used in the deadlift? Why is a low bar used in the squat or a wide grip on the bench plus the arch in the back?
Love love you two!!!
I think Mitch does put out a good mix of content on his TH-cam
I think maybe people have 'event fatigue' with some of the Giants Live events. Oh, the axle deadlift and the wrecking ball hold again. It's like they only have 10 pieces of equipment and they're not interested in experimenting or trying anything new.
You have a point.
Better late then never boys
Hooper is a dork
Ok 😂
Fortissimus 2008 for me is 10/10.
That was an epic competition. Glory years
What’s your opinion of Mitch getting full points on axle when he took a 5 minute break? Could anyone else take a break for any of the lifts?
Yes, the only time limit was that it had to be reasonable and that was said to be in the 10 to 15 minute range. Loz talked about, Mitch talked about it, Tom talked it about. Mitch followed the rules of the event, just like all the other competitors.
Everyone had that opportunity. Tom mentioned that he did not believe taking a 5 minute break would have helped him recover enough in the event. Mitch knew what he needed and used it.
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Of course Eddie's attempt was superior. He actually pressed it. Way different
Sadly Mateusz Kieliszkowski will probably be added to the list of strongest men never to win WSM or any major title because of how inconsistent & low his deadlift is relative to other guys like Hooper or Stoltman.
Won WUS wich that year was above WSM. Maybe is WUS, the competition, the one added to the list of "better mayor comps of strongman that for some reason people forgett about", right next to Fortissimus and IFSA strongman. Is the same with Poundstone, for example, people go like "oh but he never won anything mayor" when he won the Arnold´s, IFSA and Fortissimus, or my dude Vytautas Lalas who also won the Arnolds´. Picture that, people forgett the Arnold´s exist, the Arnold´s!.
@@antoniocenteno1483 Everyone knows Poundstone won Fortissimus & the Arnold but Kieliszkowski hasn’t won the Arnold or WSM
@@janoycresva276But won WUS, Wich was the equivalent to IFSA. And no, a lot of people, and I really mean a lot, ignore there is something else but WSM and many outright ignore what guys like Mateusz or Poundstone have done somewhere else
@@antoniocenteno1483 A single competition & nothing more, that’s all.
@@janoycresva276International competition at the height of WSM. The point is, people act like Mateusz never won anything big, but he did, unlike say Evan Singleton who has actually never won anything big
I don't really have anything to say about this show, besides they need to consider making it a 2 day which are a lot harder to win and therefore more prestigious, even though 2 day shows are not typical for Giants Live.
Two days is not a bad idea 🤔
@@LalasBrothers Giants Live usually don't do 2 day shows but this show is totally suited for it
Eddie could have done 225 kg if he used his legs at all on that day
People rather watch Thor eat than Mitch compete.
Yep 🤷
Also views aren’t there because, again, same boring events. The axel should gotten more views
Not enough new people coming in. Was good three years ago when wide pav came through but it’s just tom- Mitch now. Thor just hovering in the background. It’s hard to make the jump to the top tier you need sponsors and access to the best juice
Mitch just doesn't have a magnetic personality like many other Strongmen, which may be why his channel doesn't get as many views as others. He also admitted that people think he's arrogant and has talked about some video series that viewers don't like. The videos he's done comparing himself to the all-time greats, is not a good look in my opinion. I don't know if he comes up with these ideas himself, or if someone else is feeding him ideas. It's like he's trying too hard to constantly prove himself and be accepted. I was lucky enough to meet him in person last year and he is a very very nice guy. He just hasn't found what will really click on his TH-cam page.
I think part of it is his motto: lift heavy be kind. I think we can admit that if you are a bit more “spicy” of a strong man you get more views. Case in point, Eddie Hall.
Unfortunately that’s the world we live in now. It’s changed so much even in the last 5 years. It’s now more important what you do away from competitions
@@prawjeke Yup, Mitch talks strenght, fitness, mental health in the sport... Eddie wrestles midggets ands does dumb shit AT.
I think Hooper's mind game relies on him exeburating that much confidence which borders on arrogance, he is very smart about the whole thing.
I think Mitch’s strange video recently that was an ad basically hurt his viewership. It’s hard to quantify, but he has just been so grass roots and honest, but that video felt fake and it was very off brand for him.
Next giants lives are boring. Same events with ball and stones. It’s annoying
Right. I quit watching GL last year
@@JBS7551 I’d rather have the option to pay for the show rather than monthly subscription. Imma just unsubscribe asap
His coach's last video had 11k watch video an 830 liked. That tells the story! Your an truthful up right guy STAY THAT WAY.
Personally I just don't care about anything WSM or giants live so I don't watch now rogue Arnold's strongest man on earth I love I find they are just run better
9:39 we don't like getting talked down too. Talk at us or to us.
You guys need to know they (the guy from Canada's coach) think Giants live should give them a private view of there events. THAT WILL BIG TIME BREAK GIANTS LIVE NOW. STOLTMAN ARE GOING TO HAVE A EVENT NOW. I SEEN AN VIDEO I THINK 12 HOURS AGO
PS I watch alot of strongman channels. The guy has been untrueful about he's strongman history. He didn't just drop in an win dig. Many of us stopped watching his coaches channel on the untrue told about the guy! IF YOU GUYS WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T LIKE THE UNTRUSTED TEAM.
You appear to be unhinged.
1:13 I like Tom's take on the event. Tom's is an we can overcome guy. The other guy talks down to us. Tom's on a plan he will win the one he's planning on winning! PS I UNDERSTAND THAT GUY I SPENT 50 YEARS PUMPING HEAVYWEIGHT MOST DIDN'T
11:06 he needs to quit stilling words from others.
His coach put down Tom's coach then said he they have a child with autism said 🍁 guys coach so he thinks he understands better then team Tom. 🍁 guy coach go up to the winners of events an trying to get them pay his to train them. ONLY THE TOP THREE COACH IS NOT ON IT AN LET'S SEE HIS KID IN A CROWD DOING TASKS.
You need to quit drinking.
@@Adamrawlifting123 Ikr