if im not wrong eddie trains 2-3 times a day(not every day, but we've seen his rutine), doing like 1 h of swiming around 2 h gym x2 times I dont think it would be crazy that he burns around 3k -4k extra calories counting his bodyweight making him burn more and exercise more exausting, id say he needs 6.5k to 7k to just maintain, even with that he still overeating for clickbait haha
@@mitchellhooperstrongman Makes me wonder how much I was eating while int he military. At my most I was having 3 meals, breakfast, lunch, dinner and eating 3 MRE's. Plus anything extra I could grab and go with. Mind you I was deployed to the desert and working my ass off. I know supposedly a typical MRE has 1,250 calories. but can be as high at 1,500. So 3,750 in MRE, and if each meal was 1,000 I was hitting 6-7k total maybe more. I couldn't imagine eating 12k everyday oof.
I'm glad such a major player in strongman is calling out the whole 'EPIC ten-BAZILLION-calorie full-day-of-eating' trend. As it happens, Eddie himself has gone on record saying he didn't actually eat this much *every single day*. He tried it for one day as a test during his time competing, then went to bed feeling extremely ill and decided never to do it ever again. Like with a lot of strongman content: it's all marketing.
You know a lot of the "mukbangers" on TH-cam who would eat close to 10,000 calories per day on camera would also intentionally throw up off camera right after eating. Rarely are thing what they appear to be.
@@jd9119If they’re posting every single day, then I agree, they’re 100% purging if they’re not gaining weight quickly. But if they’re only posting once a week or so, it’s entirely possible they’re eating 10k+ calories in that sitting and keeping it down, while remaining active and maintaining a calorie deficit the other 6 days of the week to balance it out.
This is for children and teenagers that don't know much of anything yet, the people that thinks Eddie Hall is "cool". As soon as anyone learns a thing or two about training and eating it's easy to see thru Eddie Hall and his bullshit. It's all about clicks and views, it's not real.
Really thrilled to have an eloquent and civilised bloke like Mitchell at the top of the sport. Just shows that it’s far better to take a more scientific and educated approach to becoming the world’s strongest man, rather than pointlessly eating far too much.
Certainly better than shitting out a good third of what you ate. But lets be honest, we've all been there and done a dirty bulk with 2-3 toilet times at least
most people do lie about it, just putting up high numbers to get the clicks. Remember the days where people video constantly where 10K calorie diet, then 13K calorie diet, then 20K calorie diet! but an actually 12K calorie diet is insane. it is hard for me to imagin how much food that is, A video does not do it justice
Yeah I’m surprised Eddie is not more famous for how much shit he talks, also how much he exaggerates and misleads to build into his brand and “mystique” as Mitch put it
@@iielysiumx5811 I watched him doing his 10k calories a day and worked them out at 8k. We all have google, it is easy to check. BTW he claimed to punch 8 times harder than a heavyweight boxer, as a boxing fan this put me of his vids for many months as I could not listen to him basically shitting on others ability in total ignorance. He threw a javelin and in that video his claimed distance was way longer than actual. Unless the pitch he was throwing on was a lot bigger than any other pitch in the country.
@@iielysiumx5811 yeah, I mean I clocked it as soon as he started going on about how he “only spent an hour and a half tops” with his family every week. Like how is that possible? He ate all of his meals at home, he had his own recovery equipment at home, he at maximum was out of the house no longer than any other person who works (ie 8-10 hours). And he didn’t train every single day. The only way he wouldn’t have seen his kids was if he chose to do all of the out the house stuff like the gym and physio after school hours instead of during the day. And if he did, that’s his own stupid decision. What was he doing between 17:00 & 21:00 every day? And don’t get me started on the 500kg deadlift nearly killing him and how he “bled out of his ears” 🙄.
Love seeing these kinds of videos, I don’t think I’ve ever seen another strongman focus so much on science and evidence based training, most people just seem to bully weights around and eat whatever they want. I’m never going to be a strongman but you’re helping me become the strongest man I can be, keep it up!
Just a comment about BMR calculation for anyone looking into it. The Harris-Benedict equation is most accurate in general population and was also based primarily in north america. If you have a low bf% and high muscle mass the Cunningham or Katch-McArdle equations are probably going to be more accurate but they do require your lean body mass. Oxford is also the standard equation used for general population in Europe (only one I've ever used for GP as a sports scientist in Ireland), the sample size was 100 times as large and more diverse than Harris-Benedict. But with all BMR calculations, your milage may vary. Ideally either have it lab tested or use your daily/weekly body weight and calorie tracking to determine maintenance and adjust from there.
@@Kampbell300 He is not. Hes using modern science for Eddies 2017 Strongman. Everything Moose is saying is true when it comes to fat, carb and protein intake. It was blatant overkill for no reason. Id say Moose is more decorated as a strongman than Eddie, and seems more practical when it comes to nutrition for strongman.
I'm glad someone called this out. I'm not here to sh*t on Eddie, he was an amazing strongman but the one thing he does do it massively exaggerate things. He's one of those strongmen that made the eating side of it ridiculous and probably put off a lot of people from wanting to train strongman.
@boxingvanilla5960 I know he is, but as I said Eddie used to suggest that it was necessary to eat like that to be a strongman and the amount he ate in estimated calories would climb every time it was mentioned, as was his max weight. 30st...30.5st...31st... etc.
@@boxingvanilla5960 Eddie would've weighed more than 550lbs if he actually was in this level of surplus for as long as he says he was in. Its logically and physically not possible
I have always thinked that all these giants exaggerate amount of calories. And these day of eating videos, just added something more and had a heavy eating day for video 😂 Then back to "basics". But still they all do eat huge amount of food 😂 no doubt
Please no. This fascination with overeating is just weird and not healthy. Mitch would be the last person who would want to do it based on what he's said in the past.
@@JeffO- Most of what they eat just goes in the toilet anyways. It would be kind of interesting to see how they'd fare. But I'd also want them to compete against professional eaters too just for comparison.
Every time I hear about Eddie’s diet another 1000 calories are added. In his 2017 interview he is quoted saying he ate 10,000-12,000 calories a day. 16,000 sounds ridiculous
Eddie as a strongman was the definition of the stupid end of bro science working because basically anything would have worked for him. He could easily have eaten like 6 or 7k of better food and would still have been as good as he was without potentially ruining his long term health
I'm sure Eddie didn't wake up one day and just decide he was going to eat 10k of calories per day. I'm sure his diet only grew, because he was plateauing on the amount of calories he was consuming, so he increased it. And you don't know if he could've accomplished what he did without eating what he ate. How many people you think have ever deadlifted 500kg, let alone in competition? He might very well have shortened his life by eating the foods he ate to the excesses that he ate, but that's part of the game. Even if he ate "better fats," that is still like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.
@jd9119 there's no such thing as a plateau for food when you're at 10k calories even at 450lbs. Eddie drank a litre of cranberry juice every day because of some study he saw once about antioxidants. There is plenty of ways he could have improved his diet vastly to have probably the same or better performance and not take 20 years off his life
Mitch, this is my favorite video of yours. I’ve watched it a couple times now. You should critique a lot of different athletes diets. You seem to have a good grasp on this knowledge and it’s entertaining.
Eddie only had 1 WSM, as he said, was too hard on his body. I never believed he needed to weigh 440 lbs. Yet, it worked for him. Static monster, but still moved well. Amazing.
One thing I really love about my good friend Mitch is that his videos ALWAYS show some kind of support , studies, books, experts' opinions and of course his judgement as an athlete and likely his professional background. He has also a degree. I think his perspectives on his videos give a fair balance between health and fitness, which not necessarily align these days. Eg. being fit/strong don't necessarily mean being healthy How many of the fitness and internet names you know provide such support in their "expert views" of whatever topic they speak bout. I can probably count them with fingers. Most of them probably don't even like to read, except news of their respective sport. I thin this is of such tremendous value for us because it is education to improve and awareness of our health. Most of these guys speak I think speak and recommend based on their personal experience and pretend to know when they are not. Personally I find hard to believe and even question sometimes the information these guys, fitness guys give and show...so we have to be careful to what he hear and see on the Internet and for those who have kids, make sure to supervise what they do
I know this may be irrelevant but just incase you weren't aware a flapjack is oats, butter and honey/sugar. its almost equal parts. Not totally sure what an oat bar is made of but hopefully a healthier balance !
Remember digestibility is also a huge factor. The protein from eggs is about 99% oatmeal is 85%. So the Protein total is almost always lower then what it say in the food declaration.
Protein recommendations ie 1g/lb of bodyweight don’t account for protein quality. 1g/lb is also a pretty large overestimation according to the current literature. If you are worried about protein quality, the general rule is get at least half of your protein from high quality sources like eggs, whey, lean meats, and dairy.
yea but if you also consume whey, you can actually support the other proteins you consumed. Whey protein is 104% "digestibal" which means there are more amino acids than you need which could be utilized for your other meals.
@@KalkuehlGymthen add 2 g of peds a week to the mix and your body can utilise far more protein. But eddy was in a huge kcal excess so most was stored for fun
@@picantejaguar5994 This honestly seems like bs "dr" mike israetelisms. World class coaches and athletes (who actually have accomplishments in lifting related fields, instead of conducting studies with 15 untrained men and calling the meta analysis of these studies statistically significant) will often recommend even up to 2g/lb.
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 Digestibility and quality are also factors that only play if you are not eating a varied diet. You might look at the protein quality of rice, say it's 50%, and the protein quality of lentils, and say oh it's 60%, and a cup of rice has maybe 3g of protein and cup of lentils has maybe 6g of protein, and you do the math and you say oh I only got 0.5 * 3 + 0.6 * 6 = 1.5 + 3.6 = 5.1g of protein out of 9g. But reality is, the amino acid profile of the lentil might complete the amino acid profile of the rice, and you end up with the entire meal having a 100% digestibility even though the individual sources don't -- ending up with the entire 9g of protein absorbed.
Something is not adding up. You said his Cranberry juice and nuts meal was 144g of carbs. He is drinking Ocean Spray Cranberry Classic 1 Litre which is 43g of carbs per liter and he had 2 60 g Tesco Cashew Nuts Snack Pack 60G which would be 14.8g carbs for each one. That meal had 57.8 grams of carbs in total.
170g of protein, that's pretty much my daily need on paper. Sheesh. I've had 120g of protein in a meal when I ate a whole rotisserie chicken, I just had to take a nap after that. Was full for 8 hours. 😮💨 Pretty cool cheat meal when dieting, actually.
You never really considered how much oil there is on a British fry up. Everything else seems on point. I fully doubt he ate like that everyday but don't doubt he probably did it
I love this video because a lot of people would say this is roasting Eddie, but it’s not. Mitchell Hooper’s reason for videos are to educate the audience and strive for Strongman as a sport to be healthy. I love Eddie Hall and Mitchell Hooper both, and I guarantee you Eddie now would say it isn’t necessary for you to do what he did, but it is what he did and it worked for him and he more than likely do it over again. Mitch has respect for Eddie and vis versa. This was an educational video and very informative. Don’t forget to lift heavy be kind! Big love the Beast 🦾
I’m glad someone finally did this video, he does so many videos where he gets other athletes to eat his diet and calls it a “strongman diet” but it just a cartoonish amount of food and so unhealthy. I’ve been waiting for a break down of it for a while.
i think Hooper is just one of a few who actually eat “little” or “less”. Eddie got tested at a university and his resting metabolic rate is at 5000cal so he need “cartoonish” amount to get big when he was competing
@@Adiarby13 It was really the only way he could keep up with the competition, having both Thor and Brian as his direct competition and beating them both in their primes for a WSM title. Thor and Brian are both genetic monsters when it comes to strongman, so I could see Eddie using everything he could to try to keep up with them.
@@Adiarby13 *sighs inwardly. He does not require 13000 calories and, as stated in the video, the food he is eating is not fuelling his training in any meaningful way. He will require extra protein for muscle growth and perhaps additional carbs before a workout, in a simple, easy to metabolise form. But the food he eats and the quantities he eats it in, are cartoonish. He will not burn anywhere near the amount of calories he is taking in. He would need to burn an additional 8000 calories PER DAY to warrant the amount of calories he eats, putting aside the unhealthy nature of a lot of the food. His excess mass is a sign of that. Strength work taxes the muscles but doesn’t burn masses of calories. I completed an hour interval running workout this morning and burnt around 800 calories. I did an hour of strength training, antagonist supersets with 4 sets of 10 strength exercises, grouped in 2s. 40 second rest in between set, 90 seconds between exercise. I burnt around 400 calories. But what do I know, I’m just an endurance athlete.
@@keithhuckfield7783 you dont understand what “need” means in Eddie’s context. for most people eating 500-1000cal above maintenance is probably enough just to slowly increase body weight and strengt , that guy goal however was to be as big as he could to be as strong as he could to compete with arguably the best of all times strongest men athletes. He wasnt trying to burn calories. he wasnt tryin to look good in front of the mirror. Eddie isnt small but compare to Thor and Shaw he’s far from big. he need all that extra size. i mean look at the podium picture from wsm2017. there’s no way for him to win that if he was any smaller.
It’s where they tot up the calories of the meal and say shit like, "so that's a 2300 calories meal on its own. With the mayo that's an extra 150 ish calories, the OJ an extra what? 300 calories? So with the extras let's call it 3000 calories for lunch" Umm no, let's not, because it isn’t. They do this for every meal and by the end of the video all the widely overestimated calories, or just outright wrong, bullshitted ones (like when he said 4 slices of fried bread, when really it's two cut in half), has added an extra 3000 calories. 500 extra for all 6 meals. Like how much did he say the cream on the cheesecake was? It’s was like one tablespoon and he claimed it was like 500 calories 😂.
Curious where you source your statements on amino acid absorption for the purpose of muscle protein synthesis, like the bolus size and variables that affect the rate of absorption. I'm just a layman but it doesn't seem very clear cut to me. One relevant journal article I read being "How much protein can the body use in a single meal for muscle-building? Implications for daily protein distribution" 2018, by Schoenfield and Aragon.
Mitch isn't nearly as knowledgeable as Brad Schoenfeld or Alan Aragon. I'd look to Layne Norton or Mike Israetel over Mitch Hooper on communicating about these topics with more nuance and accuracy. That said, Mitch knows enough to get by for himself and win world-level championships in the sport of Strongman.
Not being able to absorb that protein in one meal is just not a real fact of the world, in the next sentence he talks about good fats from vegetable oils, he just keeps perpetuating the shit about red meat and saturated fat. I sustain 230lbs with one meal a day, and every 2 weeks I fast for 2 days, according to mitch this is impossible because you just wouldn't digest the food, he doesn't know wtf he's talking about when he's talking about food
I know he was strong, but Eddie was so ridiculously unhealthy when he was competing. I remember him talking about issues with his heart, numbness etc. He is lucky he didn't pass away.
This video came out during my semester of Nutritional Assessment for my Nutrition and Health degree. My brain is currently fried from exams and I'm buried in Christmas prep, but I would love to come back here to the comments when I get a chance and break down Eddie's 24-hour recall there and run all the equations regarding the amount of total calories, protein, carbs, fats, and water an athlete his size with his physical activity levels would be like and hopefully show some of y'all how to figure out what your body needs for your size and weight and activity levels and goals would be. So here's me sticking a pin in this thread for later. 😉📌
Fun fact most people don't know with regards to calorie intact. The soldier or military personnel in garrison needs to consume about 3,250 calories a day for sustenance. This is due to the active lifestyle and training. Because military personnel train like cross fit athletes. This is also why soldiers have a expected career of 20 years. So given the training for strongman or any sport that requires strength around 6,000 to 7,000 calories would make sense if you're working out to build mass. Eating over 12,000 calories is absolutely insane even for someone Eddies size
Eddie Hall (and even Brian Shaw) are what I see to be kind of athlete that uses "eating for sport" as a excuse for just being massive gluttons and possibly have some undiagnosed eating disorder derived from the dominance of vanity in their pursuits. Doesn't matter how healthy their food is when the quantities exceed necessity for what they do. It also doesn't help them that the people around them may not give them that reality check and their ego's are tied to their trophies with zealous fans and expedient sponsors quick to dismiss any concern for their well being.
I am just SO pleased an educated bloke like Mitchell is now the World’s Strongest Man rather than a daft meat head like Eddie. Such a better role model and a testament to being more scientific and sensible 😊
I don't dislike either of them. Eddie ate quite a bit differently than Mitchell, but it's hard to argue that he didn't have success doing it. Eddie did win WSM and did deadlift 500kg. Obviously, they both know what they're doing (or "they were" in Eddie's case). Can't we just like them both?
@@ezforsaken not entirely sure you mean by this. Point being, Mitchell is obviously a much better role model in life than Eddie. He is better educated and far more civilised. I’m glad that someone with these qualities is at the top of the sport, as it will encourage others to behave more like this than like a slovenly buffoon.
When i was doing a very physically intensive job (loading trailers by hand with 200lb+ boxes 5-7 hours a day) i was eating. Breakfast- 2 footlong subs from subway, 64oz energy drink/electrolyte drink mix Then on the way to work 4-5 burgers or burritos off the dollar menu from taco bell or McDonald's Lunch- 4-8 big cheeseburgers from jack in the box Dinner- 1lb of chow mein and 1lb of chicken from this amazing chinese restaurant on the way home Various snacks at home. I dropped 60lbs the first month i worked there and only managed to stop losing weight once i added a large protein shake sometime during the day. I was at around 220lbs after the weight stabilized. Nobody i knew believed how much i was eating until i took them with me to my meals... Bad part is once i stopped that job, i did put on about 50lbs in 3 months.
I worked for UPS loading feeder trucks which was very similar to what you describe. I was in my mid 20s and was eating like a horse and gained zero weight. LOL. It was very difficult to keep up with the calories burned at work.
@@MaddenManniacs I was at a main FedEx hub loading Trampolines, bed in a box, and 5-15 foot blinds. Some of those packages were up to about 300lbs... if I has paid attention to the fact I was walking with 1 of those in each hand I might have gone into strongman stuff as I wasn't very far off from being able to world's strongest man level weights without pushing myself. After all, doing basically a 500lb farmers walk a couple dozen times a day would have put me at least within the range of what they were doing at the time. Mix that with the other stuff I was doing like our little strongman contest we had internally when we had a bunch of trampolines that we had to get into a trailer with a chute in the way and took turns picking the things up overhead and pressing them over the thing and the biggest box I did was about 240lbs which nobody else there could get above shoulder height. Shocked the hell out of my coworkers when I threw that one in the chute. And yes, I know we broke OSHA safe lifting measures all the time. I'm pretty sure that overhead pressing team lift boxes was not supposed to be allowed lol
That “16,000 calories” is cool for that one video, but there’s absolutely no way he does that on a daily basis. Even if we were to assume his daily TDEE is 9,000 calories meaning he eats an excess of 7,000 calories a day. That’s an additional 2lbs of extra weight a day, 60lbs a month. Yeah bro would have exploded by now lol
He ate that when he was doing strong man. He had 3-4 hours workouts with very heavy weight so he used a lot of calories there. Even to move that body weight he used more calories than a normal person. He was eating like that probably for months straight and thats why he was up to 450lbs in weight.
But you also have to look at his prime years at strongman. Thats the biggest that strongman is gonna be. Look at brian,Thor that year rhey were massive. Its really different now
Hi Mitch! I'm a third of the way in this video at the moment. Seeing Eddy's macros compared to his activity brought up an intriguing question. How do competitive eaters maintain a leaner body mass compared to strong men? Would like to hear your thoughts on this. Much love
A lot of competitive eaters will drink water in access to keep their stomachs stretched out. Since water has no calories, it’s a good trade off to keep their stomachs in shape for competitive eating while maintaining a reasonable figure.
They don’t eat like that every day. Outside of practice/competition they’re often in a calorie deficit throughout the weeks. Some of them also purposefully throw up their food after training/comp
There are studies disproving the idea that you can only take in so much protein at any one time. If you eat your daily protein goal in 1 meal it has the same effect as over 3 meals.
A video that I think would be a good one would be a diet and exercise breakdown of Dr Shawn Baker. He's in his 50's almost 60, is a carnivore and is still breaking world records.
I get my 4.2k calories per day, to maintain a 300lbs strongman. But looking at this, and listening to you Mitch, going to look at more healthy fats and fibre.
It's also important to remember Ed is all about supplements and recovery. Growth Hormone and peptides will stimulate the hell out of your hunger and increase absorpsion. He was absolutely slamming fish oil too. Sleeping in hyperbaric chamber. Etc. The man is a maniac.
Sorry but Eddie is talking bs mate. If you interviewed him at the time he would have said 10k calories a day. His prime calorie intake increases the longer retired he is
I am confused about some assumptions. Maybe I misunderstand something, tell me please. The full English Breakfast and you assume like 23 grams of fat? the eggs have this amount, let alone sausage, oil etc. 500 grams of pasta are 90 grams of carbs and you get 500 calories of these carbs? isn't it like 400 grams of carbs and therefore at least 1600 calories from pasta?
I was an ectomorph waif when I started training, 5'10" and 140 pounds. I had 5 full meals a day, and drank a dozen raw eggs daily as well to slide in more calories. It was a struggle which required discipline over the years. Unless you're eating junk, that many full meals of real clean food is a LOT of volume. I was eating around 5500 calories daily. Training as a bodybuilder (but a lot of focus too on powerlifting) I went to a lean 205 in about 8 years, no gear utilized. I cannot imagine eating 16K calories daily, or why it would be beneficial to try. Maybe taking steroids would help with absorption/utilization of those calories... I don't know very much about them. 5500 calories was a tremendous amount of food to maintain over that period, when you are eating rice, chicken, fish, broccoli, and cabbage. It's a daily mountain of food. 16K seems impossible to maintain.
Detrimental saturated fat? Stan doesn't know what he's talking about. No saturated fat is detrimental (trans fats excluded obviously). In fact they're the fat we need the most (the vast majority of our cell membranes are saturated fat, for instance). Mono and polyunsaturated fats are the dangerous ones - indeed they are one of the two root causes of atherosclerosis.
When I bulked up to 295lbs 5 or so years ago I was eating 7000-8000 calories a day. I never got fat, always had an outline of abs and I believe not being natty had a lot to do with it and my doses were very moderate compared to what Eddie would have been on in his peak
Having abs doesn't necessarily mean you're not fat. If you have large abdominal muscles, they'll still show under a bit of abdominal fat. Eddie Hall had abs at 450lbs.
Hey Mitch at 6:16 you say the cranberry juice has 144g of carbs. Is Eddie saying whether it's 100% cranberry or not? If it is cranberry cocktail, I believe it, but I'm looking at my bottle of 100% cranberry juice and it has 946mL total but only 72g of carbs (36g of which are sugar) in the entire bottle. Just checking I'm sure not all juices are alike but cranberry tends to be really astringent and low on sugar.
Also, a lot of english foods are significantly different to what he could find in america/canada. Brand to brand for the same product can be wildly different
Mitch, Eddie said that when he was training he entered a study in a UK univeristy and they measured his resting rate - basically how many calories his body burnt just to stay as he was - I believed he mentioned they measured this by measuring his Oxygen - at 5500 calories per day. Also back then the strongman were all heavy and most lifts were static. Love the fact your bringing science to the sport. Keep these educational videos coming.
My advice would be take a lot of what Eddie says with a HUGE pinch of salt, he doesn’t lie per se but he massively exaggerates a lot of things to feed into his brand.
@@iielysiumx5811 All these strongmen daily eating videos are exaggerated for show and more clicks. Mitch likely knows this (hopefully), but is probably just going over it because he needs content for TH-cam. His real diet was probably 8-10k maybe a bit more when he was bulking to 190kg 420lbs bw.
Most of your calories go to keeping your body warm, at over 400lb that's a lot of meat to keep toasty so I wouldn't be shocked to hear he'd need nearly double what an average sized man would need just to function
@@DjDolHaus86yeh … the bmr is going to be high just getting up and walking about let alone cardio in the morning Lifting in the evening and doing this 6 days a week
I saw the original filming he did for a TV documentary before his TH-cam fame when he was still an active strongman. He was in training for his world strongest man win in 2017 so filmed around 2016, he was way bigger then also the milk he used was different he found out he was lactose intolerant later on. In the original filming he drank jersey creamed milk a higher fat content than regular whole milk, that's why he's using lactose free whole milk in that video
You're not accounting for all the butter at breakfast and other cooking oils and or butter used in the rest of his meals. That alone is a ton of calories all coming from fat at 9 calories per gram.
I think we've come a long way in strongman in terms of nutrition and eating. As newer competitors come into the system they bring far better understanding of what's actually needed. There's been a growing cross discussion and learning from bodybuilders and just more overall education. hopefully, more content like this will make more strength athletes healthier.
I think steroids help to utilize those calories a lot more efficiently. For a normal person yeah, it's a ridiculous diet. For someone on a shitton of drugs and superb muscle building genetics trying to set a deadlift WR - it makes much more sense since nutrient partitioning is different.
Eddie's diet allowed him reach his #1 goal and that was to win WSM. It also allowed him to be the first man to ever pull 500 KG. Not to mention loads of other pressing records along the way. He has said many times, that winning WSM almost killed him, but that it was worth it to live the life he has now and provide for his family. I don't believe he ever told others what to eat or how to diet, it was simply his way. Love him or hate him, Eddie Hall was one of the strongest men to every walk the Earth and he was clearly doing something right.
Yeah Eddie Hall is one of the strongest men to ever live and his accomplishments in sports are hard to argue with. And he didn't start eating as big as he ate for the WSM just from day one. He progressively ate more and more, because he saw it affected his ability (in a good way) to compete and to lift heavy. Eddie would be the first to say what he ate and how much wasn't the healthiest, but he wasn't competing in The World's Healthiest Man either.
@@jd9119 I agree 100%. Like I said, it was Eddie's diet and he never tried to tell anyone else what to eat or how to diet. It worked for him to meet his goals.
Would have been a business deal most likely. It works for both of them. Mitch gets clicks by using Eddie’s name. Eddie’s video gets more traffic from people watching this video. It’s a win win.
It’s great to see this being broke down Eddie didn’t have a dietitian but still was one of the strongest men to live It’s a Pitty he’s not still in the game Good work Mitch But wonder will Eddie take this ok? Hope it wasn’t intentional to mock Eddie, but I’m sure it wasn’t xxoo
Metabolic rates can also affect the amount of calories burnt, but not by 10k of course, most likely +/-500 calories per day in any reasonable case, otherwise you would likely see additional issues that would be requiring medical attention
I agree with you but you dismiss the fact that everyone is different. You cant stomach that food but who says eddie cant. We all have different bodies different stomachs. And its very likely eddie can digest way more than a regular person. You on the other hand mitch you seem to not be able to digest so much. I agree with what you said, i just think you didnt put into account that we all different. You cant use yourself as a reference. You said " would feel like vomiting " well thats you . Maybe eddie didnt feel like that . Maybe eddie has super stomach genetics and can digest 30% more than a regular person like you mitch.
Eddie often falls for misinformation (e.g. "superfoods" and "cryotherapy" and "juice from red meat goes to your muscles"), but his diet and methods at least were sufficient and permissive of his training and performances to be one of the greatest Strongman athletes of the last decade!
The "problem" of world class athletes is genetics, circumstance, and personality means anything done with enough intention works, and there is such a misattribution of success to all of the trivialities which because of the context seem crucial. Cryotherapy and red light therapies seem more transgressive than getting off the phone an hour before bed. Eddie would be The Beast no matter what he did as long as he trained hard. I doubt there is anyone world class who does not have a few ritualistic, confirmation biased placebos to owe a career to atop great genetics, minimal injury, consistency, work ethic, and access.
I'm pretty sure most people would still be morbidly obese regardless of how much gear or insulin they use if they ate this on a regular basis. By the way, Eddie himself said he's only eaten this much a few times. He said he felt like garbage eating that much and didn't do it again. TH-cam is the new television. Don't believe what you see on TV.
It increases it drastically. Depending on what you run, you may find yourself needing to eat and extra 1200 Calories a day to keep up. Plus, as a natural you will only experienced enhanced MPS for 24 hours after a training stimulus. When you run test, you are always in that enhanced state and you can utilize much more protein as a result. You need to eat every 2-3 hours just because the amount of calories isn’t manageable otherwise.
Dr Mike stated in a video a while back that some “gear” protocols require 1.25-1.5g/lb of body weight per day. And I think we can safely say that Eddie was certainly on gear at this point. Being enhanced changes the standard considerations, no? Not saying this isn’t insanely excessive haha, just thinking that special consideration should be taken into account with someone on gear.
Any time protien g/lb of bodyweight is cited, you can always reject it outright and absolutely. LEAN body mass is the criteria. Not overall body weight. A 400lb person with 40% bodyfat does not need anywhere near as much as a 400lb person with 20% body fat. These two people of the same weight have lean body masses of 240lb and 320lb respectively. The latter requires 1.33x the protein intake. More, even. Because he is probably trying to build muscle mass. The other is a Cheeto finger video game nerd.
Eddie had said that he did in fact eat 12,000 calories every day. One day, he also drank a whole bottle of coffee creamer during the day, taking sips here and there. The whole bottle is somewhere around 5,000 calories. He also spend the night on the toilet, shitting and puking because as he had learned later, he as some trouble with lactose intolerance
@@DollaritaSteve Well, intolerance is maybe the wrong word. His body could digest lactose but as you said, he consumed such stupendous amounts that he had some serious issues. Especially with the smell of his farts.
this is so off right from the start lol.. you really think he was only eating 2 eggs, 4 slices of bacon for protein for breakfast? almost everyone in the comments right now eats more than that....
Math doesn't math for me. At 162KG he'd need 350 ish grams of protein. Smaller meals as suggested (30g) means he'd have to eat 35G every hour for 10 hours for digestible efficiency. Presuming a meal lasted 30 mins, he's constantly eating all day no time for other activity, no? None of this makes sense. You can eat massive meals like him just fine. Your body makes it work. It's not like he lost muscle, or weight.
Your body can utilise more protein after fasting(sleep) and exercise. There was a study with 100g of protein, showing that it increased muscle protein synthesis by like 14% more than the 25g meal.
It was already debunked by new studies. Body digest more protein that it was previous believed and it does it through the whole day not just by one meal, so even if you load it in fewer meals, body will use that(not all but a lot more than it was previously believed). That is why you see some people with a ton of muscle even though they only eat once or twice a day. Also the fact that when you are on gear muscle can use even more protein so there is that. So you are right indeed.
Eddie should not have been anywhere near that 450 lbs that he was. Hooper is bigger than him naturally, I think anyways. Eddie was forcing himself to gain weight (fast), so that he could move more weight. He thought, and perhaps was right, that he had to be that big to compete with such giants. He is a big dude, but was not naturally a giant dude. You seemed to be proving them all wrong though sir, as you are stronger than all of them I'd say. CONGRATS on Giants Live!!!
I used to be a big fan of eddies (before he embarrassed himself before during and after the boxing match with Thor) one thing that taught me is Eddie is full of shit and misleads to feed into his brand (I get it, business is business) But take everything he says/said with a HUGE grain of salt
Same. I still very much belive hes one of the most statically strong men to have ever lived, and he deserves credit for how strong he got, but holy shit his persona he's constructed is the worst. I wish he had built his brand like Brian had, just by being a good man on top of being a strongman.
He explained it in the video. Eddie his need what was calculated was if he was doing absolutely nothing all day. Ofcourse they train, that's why he needs more. But that need isn't going to be something insane like 16.000 kcal as strongman is small burst of movements which isn't that big of a cal need.
You shouldn't be factoring in the TEF into someone's TDEE because it's already accounted for in nutrition labels. E.g. protein is about 5.25 kcal/g but 4 kcal/gram after the TEF. If you add the TEF to his TDEE then you're double counting.
OK just to point out in that first breakfast you can see there is also beans there as well, plus that isn't toast, that is fried bread. not to mention there is also black pudding. I expect that is easily 2000cals there
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if im not wrong eddie trains 2-3 times a day(not every day, but we've seen his rutine), doing like 1 h of swiming around 2 h gym x2 times I dont think it would be crazy that he burns around 3k -4k extra calories counting his bodyweight making him burn more and exercise more exausting, id say he needs 6.5k to 7k to just maintain, even with that he still overeating for clickbait haha
Adding olive oil might help
Great, now you're going to have to box him.
He needs to deadlift 502 and then he can box Eddie and Thor at the same time
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he was going to fight him mma anyway
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@@mitchellhooperstrongman Makes me wonder how much I was eating while int he military. At my most I was having 3 meals, breakfast, lunch, dinner and eating 3 MRE's. Plus anything extra I could grab and go with. Mind you I was deployed to the desert and working my ass off. I know supposedly a typical MRE has 1,250 calories. but can be as high at 1,500. So 3,750 in MRE, and if each meal was 1,000 I was hitting 6-7k total maybe more. I couldn't imagine eating 12k everyday oof.
I'm glad such a major player in strongman is calling out the whole 'EPIC ten-BAZILLION-calorie full-day-of-eating' trend. As it happens, Eddie himself has gone on record saying he didn't actually eat this much *every single day*. He tried it for one day as a test during his time competing, then went to bed feeling extremely ill and decided never to do it ever again. Like with a lot of strongman content: it's all marketing.
You know a lot of the "mukbangers" on TH-cam who would eat close to 10,000 calories per day on camera would also intentionally throw up off camera right after eating. Rarely are thing what they appear to be.
@@jd9119If they’re posting every single day, then I agree, they’re 100% purging if they’re not gaining weight quickly. But if they’re only posting once a week or so, it’s entirely possible they’re eating 10k+ calories in that sitting and keeping it down, while remaining active and maintaining a calorie deficit the other 6 days of the week to balance it out.
Actually Eddie did eat like this every day at his peak, youre thinking of the time he tried adding a litre of ice cream and full fat cream ;)
@@eponaalbion The infamous 'straw that broke the camel's back' - or in this case, 'the litre of ice-cream that broke the camel's stomach' lol
This is for children and teenagers that don't know much of anything yet, the people that thinks Eddie Hall is "cool".
As soon as anyone learns a thing or two about training and eating it's easy to see thru Eddie Hall and his bullshit. It's all about clicks and views, it's not real.
Really thrilled to have an eloquent and civilised bloke like Mitchell at the top of the sport. Just shows that it’s far better to take a more scientific and educated approach to becoming the world’s strongest man, rather than pointlessly eating far too much.
Certainly better than shitting out a good third of what you ate. But lets be honest, we've all been there and done a dirty bulk with 2-3 toilet times at least
most people do lie about it, just putting up high numbers to get the clicks. Remember the days where people video constantly where 10K calorie diet, then 13K calorie diet, then 20K calorie diet!
but an actually 12K calorie diet is insane. it is hard for me to imagin how much food that is, A video does not do it justice
Yeah I’m surprised Eddie is not more famous for how much shit he talks, also how much he exaggerates and misleads to build into his brand and “mystique” as Mitch put it
@@iielysiumx5811 I watched him doing his 10k calories a day and worked them out at 8k. We all have google, it is easy to check. BTW he claimed to punch 8 times harder than a heavyweight boxer, as a boxing fan this put me of his vids for many months as I could not listen to him basically shitting on others ability in total ignorance. He threw a javelin and in that video his claimed distance was way longer than actual. Unless the pitch he was throwing on was a lot bigger than any other pitch in the country.
@@anyexpat the full body with a sprinting start haymakers are beyond stupid to compare with an actual punch, even for fun.
@@iielysiumx5811 yeah, I mean I clocked it as soon as he started going on about how he “only spent an hour and a half tops” with his family every week. Like how is that possible? He ate all of his meals at home, he had his own recovery equipment at home, he at maximum was out of the house no longer than any other person who works (ie 8-10 hours). And he didn’t train every single day. The only way he wouldn’t have seen his kids was if he chose to do all of the out the house stuff like the gym and physio after school hours instead of during the day. And if he did, that’s his own stupid decision. What was he doing between 17:00 & 21:00 every day?
And don’t get me started on the 500kg deadlift nearly killing him and how he “bled out of his ears” 🙄.
@@him050kinda sound like a Eddie hater? Thor is that u?
Love seeing these kinds of videos, I don’t think I’ve ever seen another strongman focus so much on science and evidence based training, most people just seem to bully weights around and eat whatever they want. I’m never going to be a strongman but you’re helping me become the strongest man I can be, keep it up!
Just a comment about BMR calculation for anyone looking into it. The Harris-Benedict equation is most accurate in general population and was also based primarily in north america. If you have a low bf% and high muscle mass the Cunningham or Katch-McArdle equations are probably going to be more accurate but they do require your lean body mass. Oxford is also the standard equation used for general population in Europe (only one I've ever used for GP as a sports scientist in Ireland), the sample size was 100 times as large and more diverse than Harris-Benedict.
But with all BMR calculations, your milage may vary. Ideally either have it lab tested or use your daily/weekly body weight and calorie tracking to determine maintenance and adjust from there.
eddie had allot of testing done, hooper is using very out dated science or missing major things out here
@@Kampbell300 Such as?
@siddharthravishankar7243 400lb weightlifters taking liters of anabolics annually
@@Kampbell300 He is not. Hes using modern science for Eddies 2017 Strongman. Everything Moose is saying is true when it comes to fat, carb and protein intake. It was blatant overkill for no reason. Id say Moose is more decorated as a strongman than Eddie, and seems more practical when it comes to nutrition for strongman.
@@SausageFPS I’d agree somewhat, I don’t care to get into the particulars but eddies xtreemes seemed to get the results
I'm glad someone called this out. I'm not here to sh*t on Eddie, he was an amazing strongman but the one thing he does do it massively exaggerate things. He's one of those strongmen that made the eating side of it ridiculous and probably put off a lot of people from wanting to train strongman.
Called out what? He is still eating at least 12,500 calories 🤣 That is a shit ton either way
@boxingvanilla5960 I know he is, but as I said Eddie used to suggest that it was necessary to eat like that to be a strongman and the amount he ate in estimated calories would climb every time it was mentioned, as was his max weight. 30st...30.5st...31st... etc.
@@boxingvanilla5960 Eddie would've weighed more than 550lbs if he actually was in this level of surplus for as long as he says he was in. Its logically and physically not possible
I have always thinked that all these giants exaggerate amount of calories.
And these day of eating videos, just added something more and had a heavy eating day for video 😂
Then back to "basics".
But still they all do eat huge amount of food 😂 no doubt
@maxa8838 yeah definitely, all gets clicks doesn't it. They definitely eat a load just maybe 60% of what they advertise 😅
Normally I don’t watch the videos where Mitch just talks but I watched this one from beginning to end without interruption. Super interesting video 🔥
Can you please organize a strong man eating competition
What, from this video, makes you think he would want to do something like that?
Fat Mitchell Approves 👍🏻
Please no. This fascination with overeating is just weird and not healthy. Mitch would be the last person who would want to do it based on what he's said in the past.
@@JeffO- Most of what they eat just goes in the toilet anyways. It would be kind of interesting to see how they'd fare. But I'd also want them to compete against professional eaters too just for comparison.
Not even a video I would want to participate in. lol
From memory,whenever he was interviewed he said he ate 10-12,000 calories a day
Yes, 16,000 was his most. He said he was feeling rough that one day he did that.
That is way too much for a 100 kg man like Eddie, muscle mass that is
"I can't think of a less true statement" 😂 great video. Thank you!
I'm curious about how many times he shitted per day. Bulking up is so damn hard on the digestive system
A lot, I feel sorry for his toilet
@@iielysiumx5811that would of took a pasting.
@@iielysiumx5811was it frequency or quantity 😳
High reps, or high volume? 😅😂
Asking the important questions 😁
Every time I hear about Eddie’s diet another 1000 calories are added. In his 2017 interview he is quoted saying he ate 10,000-12,000 calories a day. 16,000 sounds ridiculous
And i think he was at 10k while trying to get to 440lbs not the rest of his stringman career
Great vid mitch. Can you do a vid for Brian Shaw's peak diet too
Eddie as a strongman was the definition of the stupid end of bro science working because basically anything would have worked for him. He could easily have eaten like 6 or 7k of better food and would still have been as good as he was without potentially ruining his long term health
I'm sure Eddie didn't wake up one day and just decide he was going to eat 10k of calories per day. I'm sure his diet only grew, because he was plateauing on the amount of calories he was consuming, so he increased it. And you don't know if he could've accomplished what he did without eating what he ate. How many people you think have ever deadlifted 500kg, let alone in competition?
He might very well have shortened his life by eating the foods he ate to the excesses that he ate, but that's part of the game. Even if he ate "better fats," that is still like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.
@jd9119 there's no such thing as a plateau for food when you're at 10k calories even at 450lbs. Eddie drank a litre of cranberry juice every day because of some study he saw once about antioxidants. There is plenty of ways he could have improved his diet vastly to have probably the same or better performance and not take 20 years off his life
Say it with me - the only things that matter are genetics and effort.
@@akalion213 no?
@@TsregoR bro you ok?
The massive amount of Gear probably ups the calorie burn in building and maintaining that level of muscle mass.
wsm is natty
@@ahmadarafat8836 Aw, bless.
World Strongest Man has high level PED testing. If you test clean you can't compete.
@@ahmadarafat8836 Bruh
@@ahmadarafat8836 lol
Mitch, this is my favorite video of yours. I’ve watched it a couple times now. You should critique a lot of different athletes diets. You seem to have a good grasp on this knowledge and it’s entertaining.
Eddie only had 1 WSM, as he said, was too hard on his body. I never believed he needed to weigh 440 lbs. Yet, it worked for him. Static monster, but still moved well. Amazing.
One thing I really love about my good friend Mitch is that his videos ALWAYS show some kind of support , studies, books, experts' opinions and of course his judgement as an athlete and likely his professional background. He has also a degree. I think his perspectives on his videos give a fair balance between health and fitness, which not necessarily align these days. Eg. being fit/strong don't necessarily mean being healthy
How many of the fitness and internet names you know provide such support in their "expert views" of whatever topic they speak bout. I can probably count them with fingers. Most of them probably don't even like to read, except news of their respective sport. I thin this is of such tremendous value for us because it is education to improve and awareness of our health. Most of these guys speak I think speak and recommend based on their personal experience and pretend to know when they are not.
Personally I find hard to believe and even question sometimes the information these guys, fitness guys give and show...so we have to be careful to what he hear and see on the Internet and for those who have kids, make sure to supervise what they do
You missed out a lot of the food he eats, for example, what about the sausages, black pudding & beans from his breakfast?
English breakfast might be the only good thing we've come up with.
Correction Flap Jacks are not pancakes for British People.
I know this may be irrelevant but just incase you weren't aware a flapjack is oats, butter and honey/sugar. its almost equal parts. Not totally sure what an oat bar is made of but hopefully a healthier balance !
Depends where you’re from
Flapjack in USA is a pancake
Remember digestibility is also a huge factor. The protein from eggs is about 99% oatmeal is 85%. So the Protein total is almost always lower then what it say in the food declaration.
Protein recommendations ie 1g/lb of bodyweight don’t account for protein quality. 1g/lb is also a pretty large overestimation according to the current literature. If you are worried about protein quality, the general rule is get at least half of your protein from high quality sources like eggs, whey, lean meats, and dairy.
yea but if you also consume whey, you can actually support the other proteins you consumed. Whey protein is 104% "digestibal" which means there are more amino acids than you need which could be utilized for your other meals.
@@KalkuehlGymthen add 2 g of peds a week to the mix and your body can utilise far more protein. But eddy was in a huge kcal excess so most was stored for fun
@@picantejaguar5994 This honestly seems like bs "dr" mike israetelisms. World class coaches and athletes (who actually have accomplishments in lifting related fields, instead of conducting studies with 15 untrained men and calling the meta analysis of these studies statistically significant) will often recommend even up to 2g/lb.
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 Digestibility and quality are also factors that only play if you are not eating a varied diet. You might look at the protein quality of rice, say it's 50%, and the protein quality of lentils, and say oh it's 60%, and a cup of rice has maybe 3g of protein and cup of lentils has maybe 6g of protein, and you do the math and you say oh I only got 0.5 * 3 + 0.6 * 6 = 1.5 + 3.6 = 5.1g of protein out of 9g. But reality is, the amino acid profile of the lentil might complete the amino acid profile of the rice, and you end up with the entire meal having a 100% digestibility even though the individual sources don't -- ending up with the entire 9g of protein absorbed.
Something is not adding up. You said his Cranberry juice and nuts meal was 144g of carbs. He is drinking Ocean Spray Cranberry Classic 1 Litre which is 43g of carbs per liter and he had 2 60 g Tesco Cashew Nuts Snack Pack 60G which would be 14.8g carbs for each one. That meal had 57.8 grams of carbs in total.
He thinks that in Europe we get all those NA sugar loaded bullshit food.
Online it says per 250ml is 31g of carbs
A litre of any cranberry juice is way more than 43g of carbs. Its YOUR math that doesn't add up 😂
Amazing video very enlightening thank you. And congratulations on winning Strongest man on earth!
170g of protein, that's pretty much my daily need on paper. Sheesh.
I've had 120g of protein in a meal when I ate a whole rotisserie chicken, I just had to take a nap after that. Was full for 8 hours. 😮💨 Pretty cool cheat meal when dieting, actually.
You never really considered how much oil there is on a British fry up. Everything else seems on point. I fully doubt he ate like that everyday but don't doubt he probably did it
I love this video because a lot of people would say this is roasting Eddie, but it’s not. Mitchell Hooper’s reason for videos are to educate the audience and strive for Strongman as a sport to be healthy. I love Eddie Hall and Mitchell Hooper both, and I guarantee you Eddie now would say it isn’t necessary for you to do what he did, but it is what he did and it worked for him and he more than likely do it over again. Mitch has respect for Eddie and vis versa. This was an educational video and very informative.
Don’t forget to lift heavy be kind!
Big love the Beast 🦾
I’m glad someone finally did this video, he does so many videos where he gets other athletes to eat his diet and calls it a “strongman diet” but it just a cartoonish amount of food and so unhealthy. I’ve been waiting for a break down of it for a while.
i think Hooper is just one of a few who actually eat “little” or “less”. Eddie got tested at a university and his resting metabolic rate is at 5000cal so he need “cartoonish” amount to get big when he was competing
@@Adiarby13 It was really the only way he could keep up with the competition, having both Thor and Brian as his direct competition and beating them both in their primes for a WSM title. Thor and Brian are both genetic monsters when it comes to strongman, so I could see Eddie using everything he could to try to keep up with them.
@@Adiarby13 *sighs inwardly. He does not require 13000 calories and, as stated in the video, the food he is eating is not fuelling his training in any meaningful way. He will require extra protein for muscle growth and perhaps additional carbs before a workout, in a simple, easy to metabolise form. But the food he eats and the quantities he eats it in, are cartoonish. He will not burn anywhere near the amount of calories he is taking in. He would need to burn an additional 8000 calories PER DAY to warrant the amount of calories he eats, putting aside the unhealthy nature of a lot of the food. His excess mass is a sign of that. Strength work taxes the muscles but doesn’t burn masses of calories. I completed an hour interval running workout this morning and burnt around 800 calories. I did an hour of strength training, antagonist supersets with 4 sets of 10 strength exercises, grouped in 2s. 40 second rest in between set, 90 seconds between exercise. I burnt around 400 calories. But what do I know, I’m just an endurance athlete.
@@keithhuckfield7783 you dont understand what “need” means in Eddie’s context. for most people eating 500-1000cal above maintenance is probably enough just to slowly increase body weight and strengt , that guy goal however was to be as big as he could to be as strong as he could to compete with arguably the best of all times strongest men athletes. He wasnt trying to burn calories. he wasnt tryin to look good in front of the mirror. Eddie isnt small but compare to Thor and Shaw he’s far from big. he need all that extra size. i mean look at the podium picture from wsm2017. there’s no way for him to win that if he was any smaller.
It’s where they tot up the calories of the meal and say shit like, "so that's a 2300 calories meal on its own. With the mayo that's an extra 150 ish calories, the OJ an extra what? 300 calories? So with the extras let's call it 3000 calories for lunch" Umm no, let's not, because it isn’t.
They do this for every meal and by the end of the video all the widely overestimated calories, or just outright wrong, bullshitted ones (like when he said 4 slices of fried bread, when really it's two cut in half), has added an extra 3000 calories. 500 extra for all 6 meals. Like how much did he say the cream on the cheesecake was? It’s was like one tablespoon and he claimed it was like 500 calories 😂.
Curious where you source your statements on amino acid absorption for the purpose of muscle protein synthesis, like the bolus size and variables that affect the rate of absorption. I'm just a layman but it doesn't seem very clear cut to me. One relevant journal article I read being "How much protein can the body use in a single meal for muscle-building? Implications for daily protein distribution" 2018, by Schoenfield and Aragon.
Mitch isn't nearly as knowledgeable as Brad Schoenfeld or Alan Aragon. I'd look to Layne Norton or Mike Israetel over Mitch Hooper on communicating about these topics with more nuance and accuracy. That said, Mitch knows enough to get by for himself and win world-level championships in the sport of Strongman.
Not being able to absorb that protein in one meal is just not a real fact of the world, in the next sentence he talks about good fats from vegetable oils, he just keeps perpetuating the shit about red meat and saturated fat. I sustain 230lbs with one meal a day, and every 2 weeks I fast for 2 days, according to mitch this is impossible because you just wouldn't digest the food, he doesn't know wtf he's talking about when he's talking about food
I know he was strong, but Eddie was so ridiculously unhealthy when he was competing. I remember him talking about issues with his heart, numbness etc. He is lucky he didn't pass away.
And still he decides to weigh 170 kg, he is only 6 foot 1, not 6 foot 8 like Shaw, Thor or Stoltman
This video came out during my semester of Nutritional Assessment for my Nutrition and Health degree. My brain is currently fried from exams and I'm buried in Christmas prep, but I would love to come back here to the comments when I get a chance and break down Eddie's 24-hour recall there and run all the equations regarding the amount of total calories, protein, carbs, fats, and water an athlete his size with his physical activity levels would be like and hopefully show some of y'all how to figure out what your body needs for your size and weight and activity levels and goals would be. So here's me sticking a pin in this thread for later. 😉📌
Can you please review Ross Edgeley’s diet bulk for a swim. I never seen anyone eat so much cheese cake
Bet I could eat more cheese cake, but tbf I save time by not swimming or exercising in any way, shape or form.
Great video mitchell.
Well done eddie in point of static power:
- 216kg axle STRIIIIICT press
- 500kg deadlift
- 317.5kg squat x15
... and so on
This video was so needed in my life. thank you mitch for explaining things so clearly. Congrats on being the strongest man on earth.
Mitch it will be cool to see you dissect and analyze his training regime/program + deadlift peaking for the 500kg during his strongman years .
Great video Mitch, very educational and entertaining at the same time. Thanks. Greetings from Czech Republic!
very entertaining video
As a strongman fan, I've watched so many Eddie Hall eating videos and it's nice to have you critique it
Fun fact most people don't know with regards to calorie intact. The soldier or military personnel in garrison needs to consume about 3,250 calories a day for sustenance.
This is due to the active lifestyle and training. Because military personnel train like cross fit athletes.
This is also why soldiers have a expected career of 20 years.
So given the training for strongman or any sport that requires strength around 6,000 to 7,000 calories would make sense if you're working out to build mass. Eating over 12,000 calories is absolutely insane even for someone Eddies size
Eddie Hall (and even Brian Shaw) are what I see to be kind of athlete that uses "eating for sport" as a excuse for just being massive gluttons and possibly have some undiagnosed eating disorder derived from the dominance of vanity in their pursuits. Doesn't matter how healthy their food is when the quantities exceed necessity for what they do. It also doesn't help them that the people around them may not give them that reality check and their ego's are tied to their trophies with zealous fans and expedient sponsors quick to dismiss any concern for their well being.
This is mega assumption and projecting icl
I 100% agree, they need to get a diagnosis for their disorder
@@boxingvanilla5960do you really doubt half of strongman are coping about how much food they actually need?
@@boxingvanilla5960 Found the zealot.
I am just SO pleased an educated bloke like Mitchell is now the World’s Strongest Man rather than a daft meat head like Eddie. Such a better role model and a testament to being more scientific and sensible 😊
if you love Mitchell so much why dont you marry him then?
I don't dislike either of them. Eddie ate quite a bit differently than Mitchell, but it's hard to argue that he didn't have success doing it. Eddie did win WSM and did deadlift 500kg. Obviously, they both know what they're doing (or "they were" in Eddie's case). Can't we just like them both?
@@ezforsaken not entirely sure you mean by this. Point being, Mitchell is obviously a much better role model in life than Eddie. He is better educated and far more civilised. I’m glad that someone with these qualities is at the top of the sport, as it will encourage others to behave more like this than like a slovenly buffoon.
When i was doing a very physically intensive job (loading trailers by hand with 200lb+ boxes 5-7 hours a day) i was eating.
Breakfast- 2 footlong subs from subway, 64oz energy drink/electrolyte drink mix
Then on the way to work 4-5 burgers or burritos off the dollar menu from taco bell or McDonald's
Lunch- 4-8 big cheeseburgers from jack in the box
Dinner- 1lb of chow mein and 1lb of chicken from this amazing chinese restaurant on the way home
Various snacks at home.
I dropped 60lbs the first month i worked there and only managed to stop losing weight once i added a large protein shake sometime during the day. I was at around 220lbs after the weight stabilized. Nobody i knew believed how much i was eating until i took them with me to my meals...
Bad part is once i stopped that job, i did put on about 50lbs in 3 months.
I worked for UPS loading feeder trucks which was very similar to what you describe. I was in my mid 20s and was eating like a horse and gained zero weight. LOL. It was very difficult to keep up with the calories burned at work.
@@MaddenManniacs I was at a main FedEx hub loading Trampolines, bed in a box, and 5-15 foot blinds. Some of those packages were up to about 300lbs... if I has paid attention to the fact I was walking with 1 of those in each hand I might have gone into strongman stuff as I wasn't very far off from being able to world's strongest man level weights without pushing myself. After all, doing basically a 500lb farmers walk a couple dozen times a day would have put me at least within the range of what they were doing at the time. Mix that with the other stuff I was doing like our little strongman contest we had internally when we had a bunch of trampolines that we had to get into a trailer with a chute in the way and took turns picking the things up overhead and pressing them over the thing and the biggest box I did was about 240lbs which nobody else there could get above shoulder height. Shocked the hell out of my coworkers when I threw that one in the chute.
And yes, I know we broke OSHA safe lifting measures all the time. I'm pretty sure that overhead pressing team lift boxes was not supposed to be allowed lol
This is such a good explanation. It really sounds like he was trying to bulk but could have done it much more efficiently. Thanks Mitch!
In Eddie's original video he doesn't eat the cheesecake. He scoops it into his lap.
That “16,000 calories” is cool for that one video, but there’s absolutely no way he does that on a daily basis. Even if we were to assume his daily TDEE is 9,000 calories meaning he eats an excess of 7,000 calories a day. That’s an additional 2lbs of extra weight a day, 60lbs a month. Yeah bro would have exploded by now lol
He ate that when he was doing strong man. He had 3-4 hours workouts with very heavy weight so he used a lot of calories there. Even to move that body weight he used more calories than a normal person. He was eating like that probably for months straight and thats why he was up to 450lbs in weight.
@@6thsense464you dont spend 7M calories on a 3 hour strongman workout my guy.
It should be pointed out that both bmr and bmi can give wildly inaccurate calorific needs for people at both extremes of the margin.
Ofcourse it is inaccurate at extremes, but it will not be off with 10000 kcal as he explains in this video.
@@mrsensei8878yep. they think this is black or white.
How did you account for butter or oils used in cooking? Could easily bump this 12k number to 14k. Even closer to 16k.
unless he is doing the oiliest shit ever, not feasible
@@98danielray 800 calories in 1 stick of butter. All that pasta, steak, eggs, and bread? 2 sticks easily.
But you also have to look at his prime years at strongman. Thats the biggest that strongman is gonna be. Look at brian,Thor that year rhey were massive. Its really different now
Hi Mitch! I'm a third of the way in this video at the moment. Seeing Eddy's macros compared to his activity brought up an intriguing question. How do competitive eaters maintain a leaner body mass compared to strong men? Would like to hear your thoughts on this. Much love
A lot of competitive eaters will drink water in access to keep their stomachs stretched out. Since water has no calories, it’s a good trade off to keep their stomachs in shape for competitive eating while maintaining a reasonable figure.
They don’t eat like that every day. Outside of practice/competition they’re often in a calorie deficit throughout the weeks. Some of them also purposefully throw up their food after training/comp
The calculation method of Mifflin-St Jeor (1990) is considered more accurate today.
There are studies disproving the idea that you can only take in so much protein at any one time. If you eat your daily protein goal in 1 meal it has the same effect as over 3 meals.
I believe when he eats 500g of pasta that is the uncooked weight. His dinner would have 375g of carbs just from that.
In the UK pasta tends to come in 500g packets. Knowing Eddie, he would have mentioned that he was eating a whole packet if it was the uncooked weight.
Pancakes are pancakes... And flapjacks are flapjacks 😂 can't let that one slide!
“From your mouth to your butt, there’s just one long tube” I laughed so hard
When you eat so much food you don't need to fuel up for a workout, you are fueled up all the time.
Yeah exactly, he was basically just trying to gain as much weight as he possibly could lol
A video that I think would be a good one would be a diet and exercise breakdown of Dr Shawn Baker. He's in his 50's almost 60, is a carnivore and is still breaking world records.
I get my 4.2k calories per day, to maintain a 300lbs strongman. But looking at this, and listening to you Mitch, going to look at more healthy fats and fibre.
It's also important to remember Ed is all about supplements and recovery. Growth Hormone and peptides will stimulate the hell out of your hunger and increase absorpsion. He was absolutely slamming fish oil too. Sleeping in hyperbaric chamber. Etc. The man is a maniac.
Sorry but Eddie is talking bs mate. If you interviewed him at the time he would have said 10k calories a day. His prime calorie intake increases the longer retired he is
I am confused about some assumptions.
Maybe I misunderstand something, tell me please.
The full English Breakfast and you assume like 23 grams of fat? the eggs have this amount, let alone sausage, oil etc.
500 grams of pasta are 90 grams of carbs and you get 500 calories of these carbs? isn't it like 400 grams of carbs and therefore at least 1600 calories from pasta?
I was an ectomorph waif when I started training, 5'10" and 140 pounds. I had 5 full meals a day, and drank a dozen raw eggs daily as well to slide in more calories. It was a struggle which required discipline over the years. Unless you're eating junk, that many full meals of real clean food is a LOT of volume. I was eating around 5500 calories daily. Training as a bodybuilder (but a lot of focus too on powerlifting) I went to a lean 205 in about 8 years, no gear utilized. I cannot imagine eating 16K calories daily, or why it would be beneficial to try. Maybe taking steroids would help with absorption/utilization of those calories... I don't know very much about them. 5500 calories was a tremendous amount of food to maintain over that period, when you are eating rice, chicken, fish, broccoli, and cabbage. It's a daily mountain of food. 16K seems impossible to maintain.
dr mike isratel of the strongman world, great quality content!
Detrimental saturated fat? Stan doesn't know what he's talking about. No saturated fat is detrimental (trans fats excluded obviously). In fact they're the fat we need the most (the vast majority of our cell membranes are saturated fat, for instance). Mono and polyunsaturated fats are the dangerous ones - indeed they are one of the two root causes of atherosclerosis.
thats absolutely not true.
also trans is insaturated. you literally got the opposite
That's why Eddie's midsection was huge even by strongman standards his digestive system was one huge fermentation tank
When I bulked up to 295lbs 5 or so years ago I was eating 7000-8000 calories a day. I never got fat, always had an outline of abs and I believe not being natty had a lot to do with it and my doses were very moderate compared to what Eddie would have been on in his peak
is it true that eating those amounts leads to more toilet time? how was it for you digestively speaking?
Having abs doesn't necessarily mean you're not fat. If you have large abdominal muscles, they'll still show under a bit of abdominal fat. Eddie Hall had abs at 450lbs.
thats assuming you tracked properly which is almost always the problem with these claims
Hey Mitch at 6:16 you say the cranberry juice has 144g of carbs. Is Eddie saying whether it's 100% cranberry or not? If it is cranberry cocktail, I believe it, but I'm looking at my bottle of 100% cranberry juice and it has 946mL total but only 72g of carbs (36g of which are sugar) in the entire bottle. Just checking I'm sure not all juices are alike but cranberry tends to be really astringent and low on sugar.
Also, a lot of english foods are significantly different to what he could find in america/canada. Brand to brand for the same product can be wildly different
Mitch, Eddie said that when he was training he entered a study in a UK univeristy and they measured his resting rate - basically how many calories his body burnt just to stay as he was - I believed he mentioned they measured this by measuring his Oxygen - at 5500 calories per day. Also back then the strongman were all heavy and most lifts were static.
Love the fact your bringing science to the sport. Keep these educational videos coming.
My advice would be take a lot of what Eddie says with a HUGE pinch of salt, he doesn’t lie per se but he massively exaggerates a lot of things to feed into his brand.
@@iielysiumx5811 Don't worry I don't dispute that.......
@@iielysiumx5811 All these strongmen daily eating videos are exaggerated for show and more clicks. Mitch likely knows this (hopefully), but is probably just going over it because he needs content for TH-cam. His real diet was probably 8-10k maybe a bit more when he was bulking to 190kg 420lbs bw.
Most of your calories go to keeping your body warm, at over 400lb that's a lot of meat to keep toasty so I wouldn't be shocked to hear he'd need nearly double what an average sized man would need just to function
@@DjDolHaus86yeh … the bmr is going to be high just getting up and walking about let alone cardio in the morning
Lifting in the evening and doing this 6 days a week
I saw the original filming he did for a TV documentary before his TH-cam fame when he was still an active strongman. He was in training for his world strongest man win in 2017 so filmed around 2016, he was way bigger then also the milk he used was different he found out he was lactose intolerant later on. In the original filming he drank jersey creamed milk a higher fat content than regular whole milk, that's why he's using lactose free whole milk in that video
The bigger question is why you chase some visual abs when you should prep for shaw
You're not accounting for all the butter at breakfast and other cooking oils and or butter used in the rest of his meals. That alone is a ton of calories all coming from fat at 9 calories per gram.
I think we've come a long way in strongman in terms of nutrition and eating. As newer competitors come into the system they bring far better understanding of what's actually needed. There's been a growing cross discussion and learning from bodybuilders and just more overall education. hopefully, more content like this will make more strength athletes healthier.
I think steroids help to utilize those calories a lot more efficiently. For a normal person yeah, it's a ridiculous diet. For someone on a shitton of drugs and superb muscle building genetics trying to set a deadlift WR - it makes much more sense since nutrient partitioning is different.
Eddie's diet allowed him reach his #1 goal and that was to win WSM. It also allowed him to be the first man to ever pull 500 KG. Not to mention loads of other pressing records along the way. He has said many times, that winning WSM almost killed him, but that it was worth it to live the life he has now and provide for his family. I don't believe he ever told others what to eat or how to diet, it was simply his way. Love him or hate him, Eddie Hall was one of the strongest men to every walk the Earth and he was clearly doing something right.
2017 WSM was rigged and we all know about it now.
Yeah Eddie Hall is one of the strongest men to ever live and his accomplishments in sports are hard to argue with. And he didn't start eating as big as he ate for the WSM just from day one. He progressively ate more and more, because he saw it affected his ability (in a good way) to compete and to lift heavy.
Eddie would be the first to say what he ate and how much wasn't the healthiest, but he wasn't competing in The World's Healthiest Man either.
@@jd9119 I agree 100%. Like I said, it was Eddie's diet and he never tried to tell anyone else what to eat or how to diet. It worked for him to meet his goals.
why do i feel like
eddy is going to have a problem with this video 🤣
Would have been a business deal most likely. It works for both of them. Mitch gets clicks by using Eddie’s name. Eddie’s video gets more traffic from people watching this video. It’s a win win.
Love the content. This is great, I hope Eddie makes a rebuttal.
It’s great to see this being broke down
Eddie didn’t have a dietitian but still was one of the strongest men to live
It’s a Pitty he’s not still in the game
Good work Mitch
But wonder will Eddie take this ok?
Hope it wasn’t intentional to mock Eddie, but I’m sure it wasn’t xxoo
What is this click bait society will it never end
Metabolic rates can also affect the amount of calories burnt, but not by 10k of course, most likely +/-500 calories per day in any reasonable case, otherwise you would likely see additional issues that would be requiring medical attention
Could you give us your opinion on the carnivore diet please would be interesting to get your point of view as a strong man
I agree with you but you dismiss the fact that everyone is different. You cant stomach that food but who says eddie cant.
We all have different bodies different stomachs.
And its very likely eddie can digest way more than a regular person. You on the other hand mitch you seem to not be able to digest so much. I agree with what you said, i just think you didnt put into account that we all different. You cant use yourself as a reference. You said " would feel like vomiting " well thats you . Maybe eddie didnt feel like that . Maybe eddie has super stomach genetics and can digest 30% more than a regular person like you mitch.
good stuff Mitchell.
Eddie often falls for misinformation (e.g. "superfoods" and "cryotherapy" and "juice from red meat goes to your muscles"), but his diet and methods at least were sufficient and permissive of his training and performances to be one of the greatest Strongman athletes of the last decade!
The "problem" of world class athletes is genetics, circumstance, and personality means anything done with enough intention works, and there is such a misattribution of success to all of the trivialities which because of the context seem crucial. Cryotherapy and red light therapies seem more transgressive than getting off the phone an hour before bed. Eddie would be The Beast no matter what he did as long as he trained hard.
I doubt there is anyone world class who does not have a few ritualistic, confirmation biased placebos to owe a career to atop great genetics, minimal injury, consistency, work ethic, and access.
Interested how much anabolics would effect his metabolism
I'm pretty sure most people would still be morbidly obese regardless of how much gear or insulin they use if they ate this on a regular basis. By the way, Eddie himself said he's only eaten this much a few times. He said he felt like garbage eating that much and didn't do it again. TH-cam is the new television. Don't believe what you see on TV.
It increases it drastically. Depending on what you run, you may find yourself needing to eat and extra 1200
Calories a day to keep up. Plus, as a natural you will only experienced enhanced MPS for 24 hours after a training stimulus. When you run test, you are always in that enhanced state and you can utilize much more protein as a result. You need to eat every 2-3 hours just because the amount of calories isn’t manageable otherwise.
Dr Mike stated in a video a while back that some “gear” protocols require 1.25-1.5g/lb of body weight per day. And I think we can safely say that Eddie was certainly on gear at this point. Being enhanced changes the standard considerations, no? Not saying this isn’t insanely excessive haha, just thinking that special consideration should be taken into account with someone on gear.
Any time protien g/lb of bodyweight is cited, you can always reject it outright and absolutely.
LEAN body mass is the criteria. Not overall body weight.
A 400lb person with 40% bodyfat does not need anywhere near as much as a 400lb person with 20% body fat.
These two people of the same weight have lean body masses of 240lb and 320lb respectively. The latter requires 1.33x the protein intake. More, even. Because he is probably trying to build muscle mass. The other is a Cheeto finger video game nerd.
There is a way to account for muscle mass in BMR - use the Cunningham formula. Very common use in combat sports
"He would've been absolutely exploding in size."
That sounds like an accurate description of Eddie in his prime.
16,000 calories a day would be the diet of a person literally over a thousand pounds
the surplus is so large eddie wouldve weighed more than 500 if he actually did this
Thanks Mitchell for the great advice!
i love this content hooper- u are a very intelligent strongman - 👍👍
MITCHELL YOUR INCREDIBLE MORE PEOPLE NEED TO LIFT HEAVY BE KIND JOIN THE MOVEMENT
Eddie had said that he did in fact eat 12,000 calories every day.
One day, he also drank a whole bottle of coffee creamer during the day, taking sips here and there. The whole bottle is somewhere around 5,000 calories.
He also spend the night on the toilet, shitting and puking because as he had learned later, he as some trouble with lactose intolerance
“Lactose intolerance” is almost disrespectful to his digestive tract like who among us could possibly consume that much lactose
@@DollaritaSteve Well, intolerance is maybe the wrong word. His body could digest lactose but as you said, he consumed such stupendous amounts that he had some serious issues. Especially with the smell of his farts.
this is so off right from the start lol.. you really think he was only eating 2 eggs, 4 slices of bacon for protein for breakfast? almost everyone in the comments right now eats more than that....
btw you forgot blood pudding, beans, etc. etc. look at the pic frame at 3:01
im 200 pounds and i eat double that
do a video on strongmen getting leaner. how to eat to maintain/build muscle and get leaner.
Math doesn't math for me. At 162KG he'd need 350 ish grams of protein. Smaller meals as suggested (30g) means he'd have to eat 35G every hour for 10 hours for digestible efficiency. Presuming a meal lasted 30 mins, he's constantly eating all day no time for other activity, no? None of this makes sense. You can eat massive meals like him just fine. Your body makes it work. It's not like he lost muscle, or weight.
Your body can utilise more protein after fasting(sleep) and exercise. There was a study with 100g of protein, showing that it increased muscle protein synthesis by like 14% more than the 25g meal.
It was already debunked by new studies. Body digest more protein that it was previous believed and it does it through the whole day not just by one meal, so even if you load it in fewer meals, body will use that(not all but a lot more than it was previously believed). That is why you see some people with a ton of muscle even though they only eat once or twice a day. Also the fact that when you are on gear muscle can use even more protein so there is that. So you are right indeed.
@@6thsense464 We only have 1 study comparing 25g of protein to 100g. We know 100g was better but that still leaves a lot of grey area.
Eddie should not have been anywhere near that 450 lbs that he was. Hooper is bigger than him naturally, I think anyways. Eddie was forcing himself to gain weight (fast), so that he could move more weight. He thought, and perhaps was right, that he had to be that big to compete with such giants. He is a big dude, but was not naturally a giant dude. You seemed to be proving them all wrong though sir, as you are stronger than all of them I'd say. CONGRATS on Giants Live!!!
I used to be a big fan of eddies (before he embarrassed himself before during and after the boxing match with Thor) one thing that taught me is Eddie is full of shit and misleads to feed into his brand (I get it, business is business)
But take everything he says/said with a HUGE grain of salt
Same. I still very much belive hes one of the most statically strong men to have ever lived, and he deserves credit for how strong he got, but holy shit his persona he's constructed is the worst. I wish he had built his brand like Brian had, just by being a good man on top of being a strongman.
Oh yeah for sure his 500kg pull is probably the greatest feat of strength ever performed by a human being. He is a still a twat though
@@squibblez2517 are you American by any chance?
@@Kampbell300 yes, why?
@@squibblez2517 because it’s always Americans that cry about Eddie because you guys are unable to take a joke.
Im no rocket surgeon but if you need 5500 calories to maintain 325 lbs, why would eddie have needed less to maintain 450?
5500 is when Mitch is trying to bulk I imagine, with the additional cardio he does to keep up his mobility.
Pretty sure he was talking about BMR without any activity.
He explained it in the video. Eddie his need what was calculated was if he was doing absolutely nothing all day. Ofcourse they train, that's why he needs more. But that need isn't going to be something insane like 16.000 kcal as strongman is small burst of movements which isn't that big of a cal need.
Eddie Was 430 Lbs Not 450 Lbs But I Agree
Short answer is that he didnt, he is now in the 380lbs range currently
You shouldn't be factoring in the TEF into someone's TDEE because it's already accounted for in nutrition labels. E.g. protein is about 5.25 kcal/g but 4 kcal/gram after the TEF. If you add the TEF to his TDEE then you're double counting.
OK just to point out in that first breakfast you can see there is also beans there as well, plus that isn't toast, that is fried bread. not to mention there is also black pudding. I expect that is easily 2000cals there