Slavery & Rape in Islamic Law Q&A with Omar Suleiman
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- This follow-up video answers many questions you sent in after the webinar about past and modern day slavery.
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Wow those comments suprised me a lot there are so many muslims questioning. I thought i was alone.
Welcome to the club buddy 😅 any updates?
What else we can expect from Islamic cult whose founder is himself a serious rapist & pedophile... #Rapist_pigamber_Muhamad
@@ApostateAladdin Look who I found here! lol I also came to get an answer to the permissibility of slavery in Islam. It's disappointing.
@@Maahvulus1 same here... it's painful.. did you get any answer about forcing sex on slave?
It's haram@@freepalestinehaveagreatday6843
I still dont understand whats humane about owning a person without their will.
it wasnt without their will.. they were prisoners and if they wouldnt be "slaves" they wouldnt have an income or wouldnt integrate into society.. this was a solution because without that system you would see that most women would sell themselves if their land was taken
That ll be the unfortunate reality at that period of time but its still not humane, they are forced into such situation. Providing livinghood can be a good way to look at it but the right to their body is just a different level of sacrifice. When any system allows that, man take advantage of it. Who would listen to the protest of a maid or a slave vs a reputable man in society?
+viva viva the thing is that at that time it was normal to have slaves it was a diffrent time, these rules made the slave like free people eventually if those rules were truly preceived there wouldnt be slaves anymore. The rules were set in a way where you couldnt take advantage.. it was just that the people later on started to neglect them
+viva viva The other option for option in these time periods for POWs were death.....
your deficiency in understanding is not Allah's deficiency in lawmaking
just listen to your soul. wrong is wrong no matter how you decide to fixate it. peace to those enlightened
Who are you to decide what is right or wrong
@@iMan-610 if you dont think slavery and rape are wrong, then you need to seek great help from whichever God you claim to serve.
Come to terms with the fact that slavery has existed in all of history before modern times
@@VontyLIBstfu no one said rape is right
Disgusting defending slavery and rape, what are you talking about!
He is claiming that slaves had the same rights as wives. If the slaves are in fact prisoners of war, then it's obvious that they haven't given consent to be enslaved. A wife on the other hand has given consent for marriage. Simply saying that it's the same as marital rape is not an excuse.
what are you talking about !
the slave women has to agree before anything happens!
Again Wrong. Ur right That Islam only recognition of Slavery is frm the context of War. But a Slaves have rights in Islam. And Woman also need to agree to sex so that its not rape
@@veganvengeance9271 yes the wife has more rights than the slave but the fact is in certain instances like sex the master must receive permission.
@@Bruhganu-hj9qs Please actually quote a verse from the Quran (not the Hadith) that female slaves/ concubines are able to free themselves.....
You did not understand a bit did you?? during the times of war when their were no qazis to recite the niqaah and no witness for the niqaah because obviously every one was either at war or suffering how would you protect a women? because you have no means to marry her.so it was allowed to make them slaves..and if men ever were intimate to them (with their consent)they were given the rights of wife..isn't it simple??
Finally, a much needed discussion on this particular topic. Many Islam criticists use this topic as fuel for their ideas and if you would attempt to research this online by yourself you would not find any clear islamic sources to disprove their arguments. I am so happy and grateful that sheikh Omar Suleiman has decided to spread this knowledge online. May Allah reward him immensely and make us all more steadfast in our deen.
This is literally in Judaism and christianity too
@@zach2049. can we have refrences ?
he is incorrect, this is in sahih al bukhari: "I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Sa`id said, "We went out with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.""
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).
Sahih Muslim 8:3432
I think it’s called making justifications and excuses to mask the reality of the crimes Mohammad committed; slave master, war lord, sex obsessed old man, segregated women, etc etc etc
To all of the confused people here’s, there no justification found in the Abrahamic faiths but what you find in all of them is the normative talk of it. The Quran commands Muslims to free slaves numerous times, and before that to treat slaves as you would treat anyone else because they are completely equal. The issue is that people can’t comprehend the normative state of slavery in the past, and can only think of the most recent American slavery. Neither is acceptable of course but you need to know that there is a difference and neither is endorsed in Abrahamic scripture.
The problem is that it is claimed that the Koran is perfect. And this normative talk suggest the legitimacy of slave trade and of the concept of 'owning somebody'.
Further one could argue that Muhammad should be a role model and he certainly did not seem to have something agains slaves, on the contrary. (And that’s not even taken into account a lot of really problematic hadiths).
So If someone can read this and come to the conclusion that this is gods book, I am really surprised. Because a perfect book of good should make sense in all times and places, and this obviously makes no sense and falls way behind basic human rights
Thank you for your excellent comment..to my believe, the content is based on hundreds of years ago, considering the context of the establishing Islam, rules and regulations are still in progress..on last hajj, Prophet's (be peace be upon him) clealy stated that no there is no superiority white over black, rich over, poor or men over women..and he freed all the slaves..i wonder why it is not easily understandable
@@Blackadeshi it is not easily understandable because there are parts in Koran (and especially in hadiths) that suggest otherwise. A few examples:
1) The testimony of a women counts nothing (or half of a mens according to Hadith’s).
If men are in fact not superior to women, why should their testimony not count ?
2) In Koran a punishment for zina for a women is to be imprisoned in her house until her death. While severe punishment for men is avoidable by repenting.
It does not make a lot of sense to have such a big difference in punishment for the exact same crime.
3) talking in general about the (authentic) hadiths, they also don’t seem as if Muhammad really valued man and women equally. But you won’t accept this point and I don’t want to find specific quotes
A women can not sleep with her slave while a man can
@@j1o2n3a4s5k6 so what
Don't try to defend it.. slavery is slavery
this is so good and informative mashaAllah i love the fact that you challenge yourselves to even answear questions from the comment section, which we all now can be filled with alot og unecessary comments
issue of concubine.in islam:
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He didn't answer the question of rape with a legal slave, only illegally raping someone
This may be the first time when brother Suleman is not even convinced with his own answer.
issue of concubine.in islam:
th-cam.com/video/HiOiHmAzHaA/w-d-xo.html
I mean would u feel safe to leave your own daughter with a man that you dont know? He knows its wrong but its apart of his religion so he has to defend it. And i understand him because when i was a Muslim i used to try to defend the weird things about the religion like Mohammad who was 54 and marrying a 6 year old etc
@@Selma-lt6uuThat got disproven recently. Most likely she was 14, based on historical trends of menarche. Which sounds like it's still young, but relative to 9 years old it's practically ancient.
You do realise that Slavery is mentioned more and even outside the War context in the Bible, though? To beat slaves after remaining day or 2 etc.
Don't forget, this is all in hadiths, how can you know all hadiths are true, even Sahih? And many Hadiths also say how to treat them well. Yes, it's not good to have sex with her outside marriage, bad, as this is actually forbidden in Both Quran and Bible generally.
The age thing is also in the Hadith too. Do you know that they married 10 year old only 200 years ago in England, they have laws for this, you know. Only 200.
Ofcourse,i respect you're opinion, you have the right to it, but the age thing, it was anyways practiced 300 years ago.
why would you imprison women (who were no combat participants) in the first place?That itself is highly immoral
6. Why take captives in the first place?
Someone might say that while it is fine that Islam gives so many guarantees to captured women but why capture them in the first place? The answer is in the on ground realities. In the past centuries it was common with armies to capture men and women of the conquered nations. It was true even before Islam and the people with whom Muslims had encounters often resorted to this. Now if the Muslims were not to capture their people it would have made the enemy bold knowing that Muslims were barred by their faith to respond in kind. Therefore, Islam did not declare it unlawful rather allowed the Muslims to the same. It served two purposes i.e. weakening the morale of the enemy plus opportunity to get Muslim prisoners with the enemies frees through exchange of captives. However Muslims generally treated the captives in the best possible way. An example of exchange of prisoners is the hadith of Sahih Muslim which states a slave-girl given in the custody of Salama bin al-Akwa was taken back and sent back to the pagans to get the Muslim prisoners released. (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 4345)
While Islam does permit taking captives, it is neither a religious obligation nor something advised. If the nations of the world, however, agree not to harm the civilians or take them as captives and making them slaves, then Muslims should also follow the same as long as other nations do not betray. (See, Takmila Fath al-Mulhim, Dar al-Ahya al-Turath al-Arabi, Beirut, 2006 vol.1 pp.268-269)
If, however, other nations do not follow the agreements Muslims will have but no choice except to take their prisoners and find possibility for the release of their own people. This arrangement of prisoner swap has found success for Muslims in the Middle East lately and the case of Dr. Aafia Siddiqi also highlights its importance.
3.RIGHT TO RECEIVE EMANCIPATION
IF U WILL CAREFULLY READ THOSE VERSES IT CAN BE SEEN CLEARLY THAT IF THE SLAVE WOMEN ORE MEN DESIRES EMANCIPATION THEY CAN"T BE DENIED.
SO THIS PROVES THAT EVEN AFTER NO ONE COMES TO FREE THEM THEY CAN REFUSE TO HAVE SEX WITH THEIR MASTERS AND DEMAND FOR FREEDOM
PROOF:
The Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ).
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
The Battle of Al-Muraysee‘ is considered one of the unique and blessed Battles in Islam. Following that Battle, a whole tribe embraced Islam. The reason behind their conversion to Islam was that the Companions, may Allah be pleased with him, freed and returned the captives that were their shares of the booties. They hated to enslave the relatives of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ). Due to that communal emancipation and unique generosity, the whole tribe embraced Islam.
Affan Khan if islam was really peacefull and claimed to be morally superior then it would have never allowed to take females and children as captives in the first place (like ban alkohol)
And why would a women have sex with those woman who killed their husbands, brothers, fahters in the first place? Thats just absurd
"Muh enslave women after war was absolutely normal and that's why we do it too" is not really an argument if you claim that your religion has the moral high ground"
CONCLUSION FROM THE ABOVE HADITH
1.THE SLAVE WOMEN CAN DENY HER MASTER'S SEXUAL ADVANCES AND DEMAND FOR EMANCIPATION(BUT SHE HAS TO WORK TO ATTAIN HER FREEDOM)
2.WE DON'T KILL THEM WHO COMES TO RANSOM THEIR CAPTIVES.
4. Women are NOT enslaved for sex
Following arguments prove that even though physical relations are permissible, slave-women are not treated like “sex objects” in the House of Islam as falsely propagated by anti-Islamic polemicists and orientalists.
4. 1 Cohabiting randomly with slave-women is not allowed
Firstly when there are women among the captives it is not that every soldier has the right to lay with anyone of the captive women. This is simply not permissible. In fact the leader of the Muslims distributes the prisoners among the Muslims and only the one who is given to a person and becomes his slave is permissible for him. This is vital because this way the person becomes in charge of the slave that comes to him and is responsible for her (or him). Recall the above statement that in certain ways the relation is like marriage.
In fact anyone were to cohabit with a slave-women before the decision of the leader about them and before their due distribution, he was considered an adulterer and was liable to be punished. Consider the following report;
Khalid sent Dhirar bin al-Azwar in a party and they attacked an area of the tribe of Bani Asad. They captured a pretty woman, Dhirar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he had done. Khalid said: 'I permit her for you and make it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write to Umar (about this)'. (Khalid informed ‘Umar about this) and ‘Umar wrote back that he (i.e. Dhirar) should be stoned (to death). By the time ‘Umar's message reached, Dhirar had died. Khalid said: 'Allah did not want to disgrace Dhirar.’ (Al-Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 2003 vol.9 p.177 Hadith 18222)
Had the taking of captives only been for sensual pleasure there was no need to instruct for such a harsh punishment. This proves women are not slaved for physical pleasure.
4.2 A slave-woman jointly owned by two or more men is unlawful for all of them
During the distribution, at times a slave-woman may be allotted to more than one person. In such a case she remains unlawful for all of them.
Ibn Qudama al-Maqdasi (d. 620 A.H.) writes: “It is not permissible to have intercourse with a shared slave-woman.” (Al-Mughni, Matkaba al-Qahirah, Cairo, 1968, vol.6 p.64)
The famous example of this is the case of Sayyidah Juwariyah bint al-Harith who before being manumitted and married to the Holy Prophet -on him be the peace and blessings of Allah- was given as a slave to Thabit Ibn Qays and one of his cousins.
In the English translation of a section of Ibn Sa’d’s work often used by various anti-Islamic polemicists the translator, S. Moinul Haq adds the following footnote to the narration with the above mentioned fact about Sayyidah Juwayriyah;
“When a slave girl was allotted to more than one persons, none of them could cohabit with her.” (Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir vol.2 p.78 n.2)
This again kills the lie that women were taken as captives for physical pleasure. Had this been the case, multiple masters of a slave-woman would all have been allowed to seek pleasure with her. But this not the case!
4.3 When the slave-woman’s previous marriage remains intact
And once a woman is given in protective custody of a Muslim man, it may happen that she is actually unlawful for him right from the time of being captured as her earlier marriage may actually be intact. This is when a woman is captured along with her husband or when they are captured after each other and are brought together to area under Muslim jurisdiction. Muhammad bin al-Hasan al-Shaybani - the student of Abu Hanifa, the Imam- said:
“When the army takes a woman captive followed by her husband who is also taken captive sooner or later and either the woman does not have menses during that period or has had upto three menses but she is not taken out of the Territory of War before her husband is taken, their marriage shall continue.[1]” (Kitab Al-Siyar Al-Saghir- The Shorter Book on Muslim International Law- Translated by Mahmood Ahmad Ghazi, Islamic Research Institute, Islamabad, 1998 p.51)
So again, a woman is taken as a captive and she must be taken care of according to Islamic teachings about slaves, but she remains unlawful for her master and anyone else except her husband. This could have not been the case if slave-women were to be used as “sex objects.”
4.4. Command to arrange for the marriage of slave-women
Further Muslims are actually instructed to get the slave-women married. The Holy Qur’an says:
وأنكحوا الأيامى منكم والصالحين من عبادكم وإمائكم
“Arrange the marriage of the spouseless among you, and the capable from among your bondmen and bondwomen.” (Qur’an 24:32)
“So it is incumbent upon the masters of the slaves and the slave girls that those among them who have the ability to get married, their marriage should be arranged. It is purported to mean here that if they show their need and desire to get married, then according to some jurists it is binding on the owners to marry them off. But the majority of jurists have ruled that in such a situation it is incumbent upon the masters not to place any hindrance in their marriage and allow them to get married, because the marriage of slaves and slave girls cannot be performed without the permission of their owners … The gist of this all is that the owners are instructed here not to make any delay in granting permission of marriage to their subjects …” (Mufti Muhammad Shafi’, Ma’ariful Qur’an- Translation by Muhammad Ishrat Husain, Karachi, n.d. vol.6 pp.423-424)
So the owners are asked to arrange for the marriage of their slaves or at least not to stop them from doing so, if they wish to. This again proves our point, because when a slave-woman is married off to someone, she becomes unlawful for her master. And here we see the master being asked to marry her off or at least not to make it difficult for her to marry. Had the purpose of taking slave-women been sexual pleasure, there was no point in asking the masters to make it easy for the slave-women to get married and become unlawful for the masters.
During the time of ‘Umar- may Allah be pleased with him- a person was brought to him for cohabiting with his slave-woman who was married to someone, he punished him severely with hundred lashes. See Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, Narration 29152-29153, Muhammad Awwama ed.
In fact the best is that one manumits his slave-girl and he marries her as a free woman.
Narrated Abu Musa: Allah's Messenger said, "He who has a slave-girl and educates and treats her nicely and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward." (Sahih Bukhari, Book 46, Hadith 720)
And once she is a free-woman and properly married then there is no question of being a “sex object” unless one considers marriage the same.
4.5. Pagan slave-women are unlawful for their masters
Further, not all slave-women are lawful for their masters. Just like Islam does not allow Muslim men to marry pagan women i.e. those who are neither Muslims nor from the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) it does not allow Muslim men to have physical intimacy with pagan slave-women.
Though such slave-women will be taken care for their general needs but they will be unlawful for their masters unless they become Muslims or follow another Abrahamic faith.
Al-‘Ayni (d. 855 A.H.) writes: “The imams with ruling have agreed that it is not permissible to have intercourse with pagan (slave-women),” (‘Umdatul Qari, Dar al-Ahya al-Turath al-Arabi, Beirut, n.d. vol.7 p. 103)
This is further evidence that slave-master relationship that makes physical intimacy lawful is in many ways akin to marriage.
In fact there are many others rules related to marriage that apply to this relation like combining two sisters or close relatives in this relation. For this reason Muslim jurists state;
“ … Intercourse with the slave-woman is (in certain ways) like the marriage contract.” (Al Mausu'ah Al Fiqhiyyah Al Kuwaitiyah. vol.11 p.300)
And this is the reason why the “imams of ruling” have sought evidence against intercourse with slave-women with the following rule mentioned in the Book of Allah;
وَلَا تَنْكِحُوا الْمُشْرِكَاتِ حَتَّى يُؤْمِنَّ
“Do not marry (la tankihu) the polytheist women, unless they come to believe (in Islam);” (Qur’an 2:221)
Therefore, once again we have a point; had the purpose been free “use” of women there was no reason to make pagan slave-women who are so much averse to Islam in their beliefs as unlawful for Muslim men.
WELL REGARDING PAGAN WOMEN IT IS THE VIEW OF IMAMS
Trying to discuss consent, within the context of slavery - what a joke.
How dare he.
Was it Islam that created the idea of slavery?? Slavery was the big institution of that times it was Islam that actually even discussed the rights of the slaves for the first time. Giving the slave woman the rights equal to the wives and their children being recognised as the legal heirs..! It is like someone will never agree because prejudice within isn’t allowing him to see and accept the truth
@@sadafrehman4095 oooo wow It discusses the rights of slaves, it must therefore be the perfect word of a morally superior being...
Ginoitaliano Everyone needs to understand that this concept is about history about war traditions, back than every tribe irrespective of religion used to capture the man, women even the animals it was logical because think when a whole land is destroyed what left over women or men would do there?. Captured women were use to be treated in very inhumane way it is when Islam granted rights to those women even. Same goes for slaves, it was a tradition of having slaves and then selling them slaves were also used to be treated like animals and Islam granted rights to them.
Kindly just do not see this in accordance with 21st century it is about way way back before it was part of civilisation and mankind history a part of war traditions.
It is funny to see that hate comments are coming from west people, the West which just granted inheritance rights to women not even a century ago, and on the other hand it is Islam which granted inheritance rights to women even back in time.
@@khalidgillani932 Simple question: Do you think Slavery is okay? If yes, never mind my comment.
If no then tell me, are you saying that Islam gave up to this "tradition" and "part of the past civilizations" and made peace with it by giving rights to SLAVES? Instead of abolishing it as it did with so many other things that were the norm and the "traditions" back then. As far as I know drinking, adultery, burrying girls alive were also TRADITIONS before Islam, but still they were abolished totally, there were no rights discussed! Or is buying and selling people less horrible then these things? I thought Islam was the perfect religion in which what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong for all the times and places regardless of peoples' traditions and norms?
And this comment is coming from the east, no need to think every doubt or question on Islam is an attack or a conspiracy from the west..
The comment section revived my faith in humanity!
@Sia Rizvi When did he say that slavery is okay...? It happened back then and that's a fact. He clearly said that today having slaves is not acceptable.
@@darkninja1693 She's a delusional progressive libtard. She refuses to believe that Islam doesn't allow the captives to be raped because she projects western slavery onto Islam and she also said Allah is immoral.
What is humanity for liberals,to keep war prisoners on Guantanamo?
Well articulated!
This is so fucking exhausting. Imagine having to defend this. Good luck.
They do defend it LOL.
Thank you for explaining such a complex and important subject. I was also having difficulties in this area, now I can honestly say that thanks to this wonderful scholar things are more clear and settled. May Allah guide us all to greater understanding and a genuine will to help improve lives for all of humanity and Allah's creation.
It's still rape bro
This is another defending Islam talk. Put it simple and tell the truth that neither Allah nor Mohammed condemned sex slavery.
Mohammed first kills these womens husband, son and fathers, and then take them as sex slaves. Why not just let them be. Also it wasn’t always slaves from war, they were also gifted and bought. Maria Kibti was a servant which Mohammed had sex with and his wives weren’t happy. So please stop all this nonsense and speak the truth. You are embarrassed of your prophet and Islam hence you have to defend it. Pathetic
@@ezra9264 don't waste your time in explaining a brainwashed idiot.
@hwaa Taking female war captives and marrying them right away and calling it "consent" requires some real mental gymnastics on your part.
@@silentstorm718 we all are slaves to Allah no concent matters if someone is waging war against Allah......cuz at the day of judgement no opinion no concent nothing will matter......what will matter is were u muslim or non Muslim......did u do what Allah asked u do to or not.....this life is just a test but people forget about and trying to make think of them of very highly but we forget that we are just slaves of Allah and we are nothing infront of him and our concept and opinions are nothing if someone wages war against Allah
It doesn't make sense that a woman in ancient times could be a prisoner of war , if she never went on the battlefield.
They did, for dancing and party after the battle. Trust me 😂
there were warrior women
It’s disgraceful, I can’t believe people defend this inhumanity
Nvr Mnd yeah ignorant people speak like this 😂
@@Ida-Adriana you will find it humane when there is a apocalypse or world war.
Why wedge a war on a people who have no intention of attacking you, no threat to you, and then enslave them in the name of religion? I don't understand why.
Thank you for clearing this up.
issue of concubine.in islam:
th-cam.com/video/HiOiHmAzHaA/w-d-xo.html
This is a very important video… jazak Allah khair for your efforts!
Pedo Muhammad raped a nine year old
this was a most profound lecture, I really applaud your answers, ideology, and overall message (plus the way you delivered it). everything you said is paramount to progressing toward a better and more equitable society, as well as proof that Islam is just and beautiful. :) thanks for this
"Sex with married slaves cannot take place"- Omer Sulleuman. However Quran says: (And also prohibited to you all) married women except those your right hand possess (Nisa). Man, you're not ignorant. Why increase confusion?
Yeah, I like how they blatantly lie to your face. These lies led me out of religion -_-
I have a few questions please:
1. Is war the only way for a woman to become "whom the right hand possesses"?
2. How come islam didn't require men to marry them rather than encouraging them to do so?
3. If such a woman's husband was alive but far away (not in the same region), did they have the right then to be intimate with them?
4. What if a woman prisoner didn't want to live with and be part of the man's family, could she leave or be transferred to another family?
+Zooney L
1. Mohammed had slave women who were given to him as gifts, so it is not true that slave women were only acquired in war. Muslims use this as an excuse to portray sex slavery as "humane" to captives. As if you cannot help a survivor of war without enslaving and raping her!
2. Islam didn't require men to marry slaves because it is a well-known fact that slave women were possessions who were routinely traded or sold. Since you can't trade or sell a wife, they did not marry their slave girls.
3. Yes. There are ahadiths that report women being taken as sex slaves when their husbands were known to be alive.
4. If she got to decide who she lived with, she would not be a slave, right? Mohammed and his companions picked the girls they wanted as slaves, not the other way around.
Monstrous, isn't it?
Sean Derry He explained that rape is forbidden. Did you watch the video? And could you site the source for everything you said?
Sean Derry 1) Back then yes it's true you could take them as gifts HOWEVER today you cannot. They are acquired in WAR and they are supposed to be prostitutes (you are supposed to have their CONSENT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RAPE THEM. I GAVE YOU A VERSE COMMANDING MUSLIMS TO DO SO.) Muhammad concubines were all set free.
2)Yes like i said in the past it may have been true. Past Islamic empires did it against the will of Islam. However a slave can request her freedom and the "masters" are supposed to st them free. I also gave you a verse showing that also.
3)I know there were! However it was the rule of war. If that Husband was Muslim then she was to be set free. If that Husband was a non-Muslim again it was the rule of War. What the Byzantines and what the Sassanids did was a hell of a lot worse. TODAY we are NOT ALLOWED to keep slaves. The only legal way is through war and even if the "masters" did acquire the slaves IF THE SLAVES REQUESTED THEIR FREEDOM then they are to be set free.
4)Again he only had 4 concubines and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS SET FREE. He never even struck or shouted at his concubines. He talked to them softly the same way that he did with his wife.
Go read the ahadith. Why do you waste your time repeating lies?
State which of these traditions and acts by Mohammed, al insan al kamil, you have the right to relegate out of sharia:
1. The sexual use of a female captive so soon after the loss of her family that his own bodyguard fears the woman will kill Mohammed in the tent.
2. The approval of using captives sexually by full intercourse with the intent to sell the women later.
3. The trading of women for livestock.
Are you Allah? Do you have the right to make what Allah has declared legal to be illegal?
Your problem is not with me, it is with your own religion. You are being deceived as a Muslim, when non-Muslims know your scriptures better than you yourself.
Sean Derry Do you blatantly ignore me.
1)Your first point makes no sense write it more clearly with correct grammar.
2/3) A concubine can request her freedom. You must also give it as a religious requirement. Concubines are NOT allowed to be raped like i showed you in previous verses.
I definitely know my scriptures better than you. This isn't Christianity. Many of us are taught to memorize the Quran at a younger age and learn Arabic too. Also not to be rude but your just repeating arguments that i have already debunked. So peace.
The fact that people are justifying slavery of another human being and justifying it by saying God/Allah promoted or somehow was OK with slavery of any kind is LUDICROUS!!!!!
Do people not step back and think logically????
MAN is the one who is violent, jealous, vengeful.....MAN, not any "god" they want to put the blame on.
Man is a coward when using a god for justification of such things.....regardless of which religion it comes from.
WTF? Did you hear the lecture? You're trying to emotionally attack them?
+B H
you are absolutely right.
@K T Nope. Slaves have rights in Islam. And Islam only understand slavery in context of War. And in Many Islamic lands r ruled by Slaves. Its not same as Western instutionalized Slavery system.
@@muntasifsusmit what rights do you have when you're not free I'll wait
@Little Sunshine You know what it has been some time since i had these beliefs, and i totally agree with you, any type of forcing someone sexually is depravity. However normal slaves back in those days were how things worked, but concubines is wicked
You protect my iman ALLAH bless you ameen
"before Islam, in the days of ignorance" ... while condoning slavery to have solved "post-war problems" ... the irony
If you were alive back then you would have definitely had a slave and treated them badly due to social and cultural norms, Islam reformed the way they're treated and uplifted them.
Ofc war will result in POWs and women and children of the enemy camps so they were taken in by the Islamic state and Muslim households to be part of the family and work to earn their keep.
This is in times of war and you could only have a slave through the result of war, so now in this day and age that's not necessary since there isn't a war.
So you see slavery in Islamic terms is necessary for solving post war problems.
loup Even now slaves exist, I feel like abolishing slavery outright would be a long shot even for Islam.
Ashrafur Ahmed I didn’t realize that castrating slaves “uplifts” them. Perhaps you need to be uplifted as well...
@@ashrafurrahmanahmed3666 why reform , why not abolish it completely?
@Prophet Muhammad watch farid responds channel videos on youtube,our brother farid has refuted all the anti-islamic claims
May Allah reward you so much; this put my mind at ease with a subject that had bothered me for a while. Please encourage those scholars that you discussed it with to come out and speak about these things. I am sure that there are lots of people that have these issues at the back of their minds.
The dua at the end was so needed; may Allah give us the iman of people like Sayyedina Abu Bakr whose belief rested on what Allah and the Messenger said, and not on what our personal feelings tell us.
Am I the only one who finds it creepy that he keeps talking about there being a legitimate kind of slavery?
Ali Dangou So the good kind of slavery then? The nice kind? Just so we are clear what we are talking about. There's a kind fo slavery when its not a bad thing to do?
Couldnt he, for example, have given those freed slaves jobs and paid them? Or given them some money and sent them on their ways? Or was the only moral option he could think of to force them to work for him for free?
Yes, that means you don't know about your own history either.
well, the way Islam abolished slavery was more practical and successful then what we know of in the united states. and the reason why is say the united states abolishing of slavery was unsuccessful is because we still see set backs of it in African American communities. the issue of race still exists in America and examples of it are appearing everyday. Islam on the other hand established that you give your slave to wear from what you wear and give them to eat from what you eat, you don't just beat them or over work them. and this was established in the duration of slavery being prevalent. freeing of slaves was highly encouraged and rewarded, and also set as penalties for certain crimes or sins. The Islamic system was very successful not only in abolishing slavery but racism as well. examples of racism today is as the sheikh said are out of culture not Islam. I hope this clears the confusion.
No, especially 2017. If he 'ended slavery' why not give them the status of free beings and equal rights under the law?
No, you're not.
Jazak Allah you make it very clear
Assalamoalikum Can any of you please share the link of the actual discussion that brother was refereeing to for which he compiled the FAQs?
This is the internet, so what people should do is if they hear or see anything that could be questionable, they should research what is being said, the speaker, and perhaps who he or she is affiliated with. This is particularly true with matters of religion, politics, and social issues where there is often an effort to make something more socially acceptable than it might actually deserve. So, my advice would be that if a person is curious as to what Islamic law says about slavery, rape, apostasy, blasphemy, homosexuality, etc., go to non-biased, mainstream, secular sources for information. That would not include the Bayyinah Institute which published this video.
There is no such thing as a lack of bias when it comes to Islam.
But there is the truth, which we find coming from the mouths of your own sheiks, imams and, of course, the koran, which is widely available. Unfortunately for taqiya.
Diane McGovern Clearly you have no idea what Taqiyyah is..... And the words of the Sheikh are on top of this page
What makes Bayyinah untrustworthy in your eye, out of curiosity? On what grounds can you act like you know better than scholars
Hey this is an old comment ??
Are u still there?
He admitted the entire conversation is ambiguous... So he can extract any meaning he wants then. With the intention of finding a favourable outcome in the eyes of modern Muslims of course the conclusion would appear to be moral.
How could the supposed word of God be ambiguous though?
@@Flashyfinancier Lmao, Imam Shafi's statement is the 'word of God'. What????
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There is no abrogation of the provisions that allow men to have intercourse with captives.
The examples in Islamic literature do not imply the woman have been divorced either formally or otherwise, nor does it imply the women convert to Islam or give consent.
The examples describe women stolen from their homes in raids and distributed among the Muslim soldiers.
The Muslim men even asked Muhammad on advise regarding contraception (colitis interruptus) considering the women's sale value. Hence the men had no intention of even keeping the women.
Clearly rape is being described and the word rape itself is absent because Muhammad and his men were morally ignorant and didn't recognise sexual abuse even as they commited it.
Now you can try to spin what you want to defend your vile prophet.. I have had this conversation face to face with multiple scholars. My journey away from Islam is well and truely done. You can't admit the truth but I can. It's been admitted to me, face to face by scholars far more versed than you, that sexual consent was not needed at that time, and this is a new construct that "we" can't use to judge people of other times. This confession admits rape.
Feel free to keep telling yourself what ever you must to maintain your faith.
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Wrong.
Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women-except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these-as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
Here the Quran is giving conditions for more than 1 category. 1) Women captives , and 2) all beyond these. I.e women who are not captives must be sort in marriage. But for captive women this is not required.
Read it again... There is a conjunction "lawful to you are all beyond these (referencing the list given in the previous ayat) .. able to follow now?
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Why would I watch your video or entertain you further. You see this comment you replied to is 2 years old now.
I've studied Islam diligently with the aid of many scholars, not modern TH-cam hero's, who have admitted the terms of intercourse with captive women. As shown in the reasons of revelation.
Now I'm supposed to argue yet again with someone who probably has about 5 minutes of study under his belt. If you can't accept it that's fine. Take from it as you will.
I would like to point out the author of this video admitted that he and many scholars are in the same boat in having trouble accepting Islam permitted rape in these conditions. And it was only with the determination to alleviate that trouble they came up with long winded work arounds. That itself is telling.
Post edit.
Ive enjoyed watching Dr Shabbir ally speak over the years.
Well said, everyone should watch the full video
Thanks for explaining.
Pls watch a lecture of Jonathan Brown about this topic, a lot of people seemed to be confused how Islam can allow slavery. He wrote a book on it and his explanation is very detailed and understandable
@BluckKraken I
What is slavery?
Is the Western definition of slavery applicable to the muslim definition?
What did Islamic law change compared to before?
When did muslims engage in slavery?
When did the abolishment of slavery star and is it in the interest and spirit of the muslims to ban slavery forever?
These are some question he engages in. I wouldn't do justice answering them but you can see in which direction it goes
@BluckKraken I yaqeeninstitute.org/jonathan-brown/slavery-in-islam-lecture/
@BluckKraken I here's the article
@BluckKraken I my opinion is irrelevant. If you really wanna learn then read if not then don't
Thanks Umar. My brain was bursting out. Unless I got the answer in this video.. Alhamdulillah.
thank you i got it by writing down the main points.,hope its helpfull
Very good information here
As sad and hurt that I feel for the hundreds of years of suffrage that my sub Saharan peoples have endured under both Muslim and Christian enslavement and domination, I appreciate the demeanor of the speaker.
Islam declared a black slave as the first ever mozin (prayer caller) In the time of prophet Muhammad.thats the one noblest role as it can be among Muslims. We regard him as one of the pious and we consider him our master. Read Islamic history. Mamluk kingdom was ruled by Muslim slaves rulers were all slaves .. read
@@aliaasman5518 Thank you for the reminder of the black Muslim. Clearly, people or groups that do awful this to other people often do good as well.
@@akindelebankole8080 A few exceptions does not rule out that Islam was barbaric to the sub-Saharan peoples. You can look up the Zanj Rebellion.
@@silentstorm718 You know that the Arabs Muslims enslaved sun Saharan Africans for almost 1400 years, to the tune of 125 million slaves, with about 90% of the men castrated. Additionally, most of the babies of the pregnant slave women were destroyed, less the child becomes a liability and in the way of the free labor. This was done to ensure their descendants will not end up in the Arab society. In fact Saudi Arabia just outlawed slavery in the 1960s. Yet, they are still continuing till today.
@@akindelebankole8080 I didn't know it was that many people enslaved. The Islamic belief system codified slavery thereby allowing it to continue. I believe Mauritania also had slavery up until the past few decades. Look at how Islamic Sudan treated the black Christians in what is now South Sudan. Nothing short of a tragedy.
Finally some convincing answer... thank you brother Omar ... May Allah give you more knowledge. JazakAllah khair!
So hence what you are saying is that forceful behaviour is not allowed after marriage too? Is that right? Kindly rectify. JazakAllah
One of the major issues with the whole subject matter is the fact that we really are talking about the Arab outlook on what AFRICAN life and happiness is worth. Even if the people are Scholars. I am Muslim and I know if the Issue was ARAB females, the idea of what scholars brought up would not exist.
You seem too smart to be muslim. I hope one day you come to your senses and leave this demonic religion.
That wasn't even about Africans, they were mainly Persians.
"We ... traveled by sea to the city of Kulwa [Kilwa in East Africa]...Most of its people are Zunuj, extremely black...The city of Kulwa is amongst the most beautiful of cities and most elegantly built... Their uppermost virtue is religion and righteousness and they are Shafi'i in rite."
Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331
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To all the African Muslims, the best remedy about the discomfort with Islam and slavery is to study African history. Our history didn’t begin 500 years ago when we first encountered the Europeans, it didn’t begin with the advent of Islam or Christianity in Africa, we have thousands of years of glorious history, great civilizations and empires. The Europeans traded with us, they saw an opening when most of our empires were in decline and weakened. As a Muslim, stay firm in your belief in Allah and his messengers, as an African be proud of who you are.
No, correct yourself Africans where among the first Christians even before many Europeans. Then came the curse of ISLAM.
Thank you dear sheikh Omar Sulaiman for explaining this topic in detail and so perfect 👍🏻
In what circumstance would you take in a female prisoner of war? Wouldn't it be better to let them live their own lives with other people they know, if they didn't fight against you? If you go into a country to kill someone's husband, brother or father, would you take them in as a slave and be intimate with them, instead of just living the lives they lived before? Why couldn't they be allowed to move away and live with relatives or somewhere else?
Let them live their own lives during war,how?
@@ZZ-oi1be ever heard of orphanages?
@@tasinal-hassan8268 dar ul aman?
@@ZZ-oi1be There were Dar ul Aman. Grown women without parents and guardians came under same category as orphans. Unless they earned for themselves.
@@ZZ-oi1be And stop liking your own comments.
I dont know if i can agree with any of this.... Slavery shouldnt exist at all regardless of how you try to justify it... not hitting your slave doesnt make it less bad, your still keeping a person without their consent...you cant tell me jail is less humane than having a salve...
After a war if u didn't take slaves, those slaves would wage further wars in future
Slavery prevailed at the time.... It kinda does in a few places..... You can't stop it,.... So how do u deal with it..... You can say that abt everything...... But evil prevails....
@@ambreenfathima92 so did pre marital sex and the consumption of alcohol, yet both of those are haram.....
@forsenCD lol that's not the same thing at all, nor are kids slaves..... they're just being provided for by their family.....
@@naheenisapoet69 you can take prisoners, they dont have to be slaves, how are you trying to justify the enslavement of a human being?
Jazak Allah Khair. Thank you so much for taking the time to clarify all of that. I wish so much more people would have access to these types of information, so we could once and for all break these typical misconceptions about Islam. Allah swt Knows best. Allahuakbar.
Alessandra Perez Allah still allows for cruel treatment.
Islam is for idiots
Imam i had a ques..
In pre historic time, if a person has a wife and also he had a slave and the wife is hurt emotionally when her husband has intimate relation with concubine what is the ruling for the husband to ease his wife's pain.. I mean women are emotional so it would hurt a women a lot so what is the ruling in this regard
Comcubines in Islam are treated like free wives. Allah and Prophet Muhammad said to treat them in the best way possible.
@@muslimfundamentalist1410 Okay but s/he is talking about something else. Just think about it. Your husband can get slave girls anytime he wants and have sex with them. What would you do?
@@cansugungor4405 You know that it's haram to sleep with a servant who's not Muslim or from the book, right? You guys have such a corrupted understanding of Islamic right hand possession.
@@muslimfundamentalist1410 Yeah, so what? Husband can get 500 Christian slave and have sex with them. It is halal, isn't it? I am Muslim btw, not trying to be rude.
@@cansugungor4405 Please stop pulling numbers from plain air. Your essential argument is why can a husband have multiple wives. Because women at the time were neglected and without any support, it is a virtue to marry them and provide for them and also to free them as our Prophet said.
can someone please help me, why do we praise the quran for having laws protecting slaves when it should of banned slavery? even this was "back in the day" the quraan has never changed
Why shuld quran have banned slavery? Quran never claimed it was book of human rights.
Dont forget that wars islamic armies waged was won by the motivating prizes of booty.
you must be a woman which is why you ask this silly question.
why should I be dishonest here? What would I gain from it?
Because if all the slaves were suddenly free then they would have no means to live as in Islam you have to provide for your slave so if all the slaves were free all at once it would be hard for them to survive.
Zack london Read the Quran, it doesn’t just command for the humane treatment of slaves, it doesn’t only say that they’re equal in every way to a free person, it commands Muslims to free slaves.
@ Wow how disgustingly honest you are. This i hope is not the opinion of the average muslim.
I'm confident that there have been people from beginning of known history who felt that slavery is morally wrong. Just because human cultures throughout the centuries had slaves doesn't make it acceptable. It must be condemned by all people for all time. Giving ancestors a pass on moral judgements only invites the possibility of such heinous barbarism to occur again.
Slavery of war prisoners is not like slavery of innocent people! what our countries do with war prisoners? They keep them in jail worse than slaves
How pathetic.In Islam slavery is only allow in the context of War.When the evil people with evil intentions invade our country and in return we defend our self and take them as our slaves and giving them their rights,so whats wrong with it?
@@muslimboyilyas775 what's about the sex slave the women's
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@@yyllyylll3502 sex slaves are also prisoners of wars.So having sex with female slave is permissible in Islam.But the female slave is not a public property that everyone will come and doing sex with.Female slave is only for his master and not for everyone.
If the slave women doesnt want to develope sexual relationship with her master,then Allah says make a contract with them.If the contract is completed then freed them.
Also if the female slave is polytheist then sex with her is not allowed its a sin.
Also if the female slave commit a crime in Shariah law,she shoud be punished half of a free women.So punishment is also half as compare to the free muslim women.
So watch the videos i shared above
Why not marry her?if she had the same rights, same status...why not just marry her...
PS:not a troll, a genuine question
A female slave has the same rights of the wife despite not being a wife. It is up to her, the first wife and the master to agree to marriage. It is not solely up to him.
I think the better question would be : If Islam is so kind why the hell does it allow woman to be taken as war booty?
I encourage to search on Slavery in Islam , when you do , do not be misled by stupid argument : It was a norm and allowed in other religions as well, God 's word should not change with time because if they do , then God is no different from our politicians
zeeshan qadir God’s word does not change over time. But interpretations do. I am not a scholar of Islam, I am simply a Muslim that believes in Allah,His Books and in his Prophets and Messengers. I will explain slavery in Islam to the best of my ability.
In the name of Allah,Most Gracious,the Most Merciful:
As a Muslim, we are to follow the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad’s actions and that of his companions.Now the Quran is a book that was meant to serve as a final testament to mankind. It was meant especially to reform the customs of pre Islamic Arab culture known as the Days of Ignorance. Despite the radical change that Islam brought, the system it brought was one that would gradually alter social practices over time. For example, many of the Prophet’s companions use to drink alcohol outside of prayer. Later a verse was revealed to the Prophet pbuh to ban alcohol completely. It occurred over time.
zeeshan qadir As was the case of alcohol,Islam implemented a system that would slowly undermine slavery. Abu Bakr(best companion) frees Bilal ibn Rabah Who was an Ethiopian slave. The Shariah surrounding slavery is that:1)A free man can never be captured for slavery.
2) If captured in war, you could be a slave. Similar to POW in today’s world.
3)Already enslaved persons were allowed to be owned, but manumission was greatly encouraged because it provides for a greater reward from Allah.
4) Upon a slave’s conversion to Islam, he(r) must be freed immediately.
Prisoners of war during times of war were allowed to be enslaved primarily for the reasons of 1) Potential ransom deal
2) Potential Prisoner swap deal for caliphate citizens or Muslim troops captured
Making a lot of sense thank you brother. Lets see how many people in the comment section that have never read the quran from front to back and still decide that they are experts in understanding.
"Among [the Malli blacks'] good qualities is the small amount of injustice amongst them, for of all people they are the furthest from it..."
Ibn Battuta, 14th century
"it was a system of that time and the Prophet muhammad (S) fixed that situation dealing with it step by step, u can't change things with a blink. For present time no form of slavery is accepted in islam" - summary for those who r commenting without listening the talk.
but i thought Quran had no expiry date
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I don't understand y so many comment are angry at this. He already said to not view history with our current moral values @_@. Slavery and concubines were something common, the emperor of China had thousands, almost every man had a slave or a concubine, even in America. Islam gave rights to the slaves and concubines; slaves can no longer be beaten and can wear full clothing (a right reserved only for free people) and concubines cannot be raped or shared. "Same rights as a wife" means she cannot be shared or passed around, cannot be inherited to be his son's concubine, needs to be respected as his wife in terms of relationship within the household. Granted it's crazy to think how can anyone give consent after having their family killed in a war but we must understand that she had nobody to depend on anymore and that that was the social norm. Islam promotes freeing slaves and highly encourages people to free slaves. And now currently, it is against Islamic law to own a slave or a concubine. If muslims currently have slaves or concubines, they are doing so against the Islamic law.
Sir, please re-read your comment. History is irrelevant! You are talking about your Quran--the supposed words of Allah. Instead of giving rights, Allah would have prohibited as he prohibited the drinking of alcohol. Is drinking alcohol worst then owning a human being? Islamic Logic 101. There no way that you can justify owning a human being. It is immoral, inhumane, and repugnant. This is one of the reasons I left Islam. Islam is horrible ideology.
I love how this is reminding me that God wants us to fight for justice of human being, not just a certain group of our people :)
Yet this god allows men to own females as property while humans forbid it.
@Sia Rizvi The problem here is that Islam claims to have objective Morals. So you can't say slavery was ok because other people did it too. Or it is objectively right or wrong. And since slavery is allowed by Allah I think Islam is a bad religion that doesn't come from a god.
@Sia Rizvi Don't get me wrong I respect you for that. But Islam claims to be perfect for all times and has perfect objective morals. But how can Islam be perfect when it has morals that even you think are immoral? Just like you I think all religions have good and bad but because it has all those bad things I don't believe it comes from a god but is simply human made.
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@@breakbeat9229 exactly. If a prophet did it, it must mean it was acceptable for all mankind.
If a muslim man has consensual sex with a concubine and that isn't considered adultry, what is? Does adultry exist under Shariah law?
Of course it does - but only for women. Gross.
raphael44ify Wrong both men and women , slavery is the exception
@@Kannotwait nope, adultery is only for women.
Yes if a married woman has sex with a man who is not her husband, even if she is raped by another man. She needs 4 witnesses to speak up for her. What chance of that?
Zina is only for women. Men can have sex with slaves, with four wives and can easily divorce if he doesn't like them any more. Fresh batch of female bodies are always in high supply for men in Islam. But for women, it's a big sin to have sex with anyone other than the one she is owned by
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Lots of Qs in the comment section only because u guys didn't watch the prequel in depth lecture video of Omar Suleiman . So u might just do that and u might get ur answers .
The thing I struggle with is- the law of free mixing is so strict, yet you could have sexual a relationship with a 'maid'.
Why- does their need to be any sexual relationship at all?
Could she just not be.. ? Even as a slave with normal paid employment for example..?
That's what I can't understand right now.
i am a former muslim. I can tell you that islam does not make sense. I urge you to leave the faith. I am a deist now.
lol you dont have to
if she agrees to it then yes
You think the women wouldn't have urges or could not look to be intimate with her master or a husband he marries her too
@@Scapone2001 bro stfu. You know nothing about Islam 😂
@@syedmohammedhussain799 Somebody please answer me, why marriage (nikkah) was not needed to have intercourse with a female slave?
Isn't pre marital sex haram?
I'm a muslim and i love my religion but certain truths i did found out recently, and this make me doubt my religion and the holy book. I've been researching for the past 1 month on this topic but couldn't find a satisfying answer. Somebody please help me out.
great discussion(or at least some answers); i had wondered about some of these issues; and felt the same, just didn't know how to put it into words, or know maybe, where to look for the answers; there should be a whole re-vision of some of the countries that are living under "sharia" when it is possible(probable) that they haven't even took laws from the qu'ran and sunnah; and Allah knows best...
Why take the women in the first place after a war? thats what I don't get
+Omar Black, Someone might say that while it is fine that Islam gives so many guarantees to captured women but why capture them in the first place? The answer is in the on ground realities. In the past centuries it was common with armies to capture men and women of the conquered nations. It was true even before Islam and the people with whom Muslims had encounters often resorted to this. Now if the Muslims were not to capture their people it would have made the enemy bold knowing that Muslims were barred by their faith to respond in kind. Therefore, Islam did not declare it unlawful rather allowed the Muslims to the same. It served two purposes i.e. weakening the morale of the enemy plus opportunity to get Muslim prisoners with the enemies frees through exchange of captives. However Muslims generally treated the captives in the best possible way. An example of exchange of prisoners is the hadith of Sahih Muslim which states a slave-girl given in the custody of Salama bin al-Akwa was taken back and sent back to the pagans to get the Muslim prisoners released. (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 4345)
While Islam does permit taking captives, it is neither a religious obligation nor something advised. If the nations of the world, however, agree not to harm the civilians or take them as captives and making them slaves, then Muslims should also follow the same as long as other nations do not betray. (See, Takmila Fath al-Mulhim, Dar al-Ahya al-Turath al-Arabi, Beirut, 2006 vol.1 pp.268-269)
If, however, other nations do not follow the agreements Muslims will have but no choice except to take their prisoners and find possibility for the release of their own people. This arrangement of prisoner swap has found success for Muslims in the Middle East lately and the case of Dr. Aafia Siddiqi also highlights its importance.
So then why does a slave woman becomes free if she has a child with the muslim master? In other words to me it says the master says 'you served your purpose to sire my child as a muslim who will become a soldier of war, so your job is done slave woman'... I hate the word slave, master and captive, If I see that in any book specially allowing such act even if it's for certain reasons I still would find that problematic...
Omar Black Then call it "Abd" or "Mulkimeen" but it's because the child is considered legitimate, and the father has to spend so that she can raise the child properly, and he also has to participate in raising her.
If there was a war between islamic countries and the west today and the islamic countries win, can they take their women and have em as slaves and be intimate with em? Would that be applicable since the muslims of the past practiced it?
Omar Black I honestly don't know lol, but Good question. I'll do research.
I'm literally just moving on from islam as more as I'm knowing it!
May Allah give me hidayah!
Moving on?
I moved on but I came back.
Islam allowed slavery at first but later on in the revelation period it says to free slaves, so that gradually the system of slavery is abolished. As for sex with female slaves, it is not allowed unless her master marries her. She is different from a free woman in a way that her master does not have to pay her mehr.
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Fahim, may Allah give you hidayah and to everyone of us. Aameen!
Please read the history of slavery in the history and even today... See how the women are being raped and enslaved in the world even today.
In Shaa ALLAH you'll understand.
Walaikum assalam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatoho JajakAllahu Khairan
Somebody please answer me, why marriage (nikkah) was not needed to have intercourse with a female slave?
Isn't pre marital sex haram?
I'm a muslim and i love my religion but certain truths i did found out recently, and this make me doubt my religion and the holy book. I've been researching for the past 1 month on this topic but couldn't find a satisfying answer. Somebody please help me out.
When you look into the quran in a perspective of a non believer it would actually start making alot of sense as to why it is the way it is in islam.
Hi, aysha
I'm really concerned about your post and I hope this explanation helps you.
1. Exclusivity/ security: Islam allows concubinage and prohibits premarital sex bcos, you see, Islam seeks to protect women. On many occassions, women in premarital relationships end up being used and being taking advantage of. More importantly, the society in general is helpless and unable to come to their aid because they have no legal authority to demand for justice on their behalf since the relationship they engaged in was neither formal nor legally recognised.
2. Lineal sanctity: The second reason is the fact that islam seeks to protect lineal sanctity , I mean to preserve the ancestral line. Islam seeks to ensure that any child giving birth to can be traced to a particular man. Such that if a woman gets pregnant the child can be linked to a particular father. These appear to be the most important reasons why premarital sex is Forbidden and and concubinage is acceptable because it is very similar to a marriage although with minor differences. In a formal set up where a woman is ascribed to a particular man the Society can recognise the man as the caretaker who will take responsibility for the woman as well as her offsprings.
You need to understand that at that time there was no concentration camp for concubines so it best they will in some protection in House under domestic help..they need to be treated respectably as women..same food same clothes..if man have child with concubines can't be pass on only be free after the master or man died n that child whole finances given by father..n multiple times it was advice free salve in case of sin it was appreciated
A woman whose husband, brother or father had been killed in the battle by the enemy. Would she want to sleep willingly with that enemy? There definitely would have been sex against her will, which is nothing but rape. Because having sex with a female slave has been sanctioned explicitly. The slave owner considers it to be his right to have sex with her even against her wish just life it is in the case of having sex with one's wife.
Killed father husband and blah blah, why they choose to fight then? And if the other side wins they would not enslave all the Muslims? While Muslims can only enslave war captives and people who can’t pay jizyah? And what to do with these women who are caught, let them go so they can starve to death? You guys reactions are pathetic
@@asadjavaid847 other side is jahil everybody knows. Why you want to copy the jahil and have sex with others' wives and mothers? When you say they came to fight, it means the men only came to fight not the women. So you don't have any moral right to capture their women who dint fight you at all. What to do with women?? Seriously?? How about leaving them peacefully so that they can return back to their homes? Wont they have relatives? Surviving sons, daughters, uncles, aunts, elderly parents may be. Why shouldn't the women be left to their surviving families. Why lust after, capture them and extract free work and free sex from them? I mean Shouldn't the muslims be more upright and set an example to the world by not enslaving people?
Ameenur Rahman leaving then peacefully 😂 like they were living in Switzerland, these women would have not survived and died if weren’t enslaved, check history
@@asadjavaid847 which world are you living in? Speaking like a caveman. As if there were no shelters in the hot desert. As if no human was able to survive in that place without husband. What a foolish support you are lending to a wrong practice. Any human can survive anywhere provided they have the basic necessities of food clothing and shelter. They already have access to those basic needs in their own houses. There was no need to trap them, lift them from their houses and forcefully taking them to Muslim houses just to offer free sex to the owner and do all the chores. Don't blindly support wrong things. A wrong thing is wrong even if done by our own people.
Ameenur Rahman this not wrong and it’s completely right, I watched a video of an expert in this field and he was not a Muslim and he also elaborated that people today wouldn’t believe it but this is how it was and enslaving them was as if you’re saving them.
What are you saying? A wife is only a wife after she gives her consent for marriage, but a slave doesn’t. So if a woman did not want to be in the role of a slave, she still had to have sex with the master by definition since it is permitted? And if this was considered “harm” why was it permitted? Are you sure this “harm” indicates forceful sexual relations as well considering in islam women doesn’t have much right to say no even if they don’t want to! And of rape was not permitted of the slave and a woman did not want to have sex with her master, what did she do then? Or what would happen to her based on the islamic tradition? Since you are saying it the master’s right and she would be sinful by not giving that (even if the master doesn’t force himself), she would still be a slave and a property of that man right? Please elaborate. I am a muslim myself but I can not say this aspect is very appealing to me as a muslim, and frankly the very thought of a man raping a women who is a war prisoner disgusts me.
yes it is something disturbing bcz it is not in practice and we can't think of it, like a second wife of our father or my mom and dad being in a livin relationship, bcz we don't see it in our society normally (though in west it has normalized), your first question is consent,
1. so When war was to be fought every term and conditions were already discussed, and it was one term that they can be made slaves, and thus they knew it already and what were slaves rights (not acc. to islam but in their society as well they knew it well which also includes S*X), so if one is coming in battle field, it means he/she agrees upon it, scondly sex was permissible only with Muslims or Ahl e Kitaab wife/slave (CHRISTIANS AND JEWS who actually follow teachings of real Injeel and Torah which was rare of the rarest bcz the true books were not preserved and also the true Ahle kitaabs don't have issue with Islamic Rules and Regulations bcz they are almost same so they don't come to war bcz they don't have any issue to wage in a war) so Intercourse was permissible only after Girl Accepts Islam (which can't be forced to her to accept Islam bcz it is Haram, so if she accepts Islam by her will still she knows that her master will possess Rights to be intimate after she accepts Islam),
2. Now what if she Don't wants to be a slave, Islam is the Only Religion/System on face of earth which brought This Right to slave to buy their freedom (QURAN Ch.24), it can be done in Installments or full payment both are accepted, it is simply to make a contract with Master and give some affordable amount of money and Masters can't Decline this Contract else Slave can register Case in Court And if it was clear that slave will not do any crime to earn Money like theft, prostitution etc. and they will become freed in sometimes and as soon as contract is made masters cannot approach their slaves now, As was the case of Hazrat Juwairiyah A.S she was a JEW War captive and was made Slave, but she Denied it at first moments and asked for Contract with Sahabi to Whom she was given, And legally Sahabi Couldn't deny it she then Visited Prophet for helping her to pay the amount And Prophet Asked Her to accept Islam And Marry Him, She Accepted It and prophet Paid for her to Sahabi, later all war Captives of that battle were freed for free after Marriage. So this is A choice to a Slave And Also Quran Has actually ordered Muslims to pay for their Freedom from their Money. plz search refrences yourself i don't remember actual number. but yes it exist.
3. Sex with her after she strongly denies Is a harm, and Muslims can't harm their Slaves (even the very last words of the Prophet was to Treat your Slaves with Kindness) and if someone harms them they would be taken away by govt. also it is legal to pat your Wife but she remains your wife but if you do same to a slave he/she will be freed at the moment. And you're wrong that women can't say no to Husband, If she is strongly unwilling for that, or if she is Ill or something, she can deny it any time but if she is all okay and her husband want it so badly that he might commit zina then it is sin for women and for man as well for same condition if he denies women who wants him badly, else it would promote adultery in society. and if slave was not comfortable or had any problem she was not sinner Islam allows this much flexibility don't mix western slavery here, slaves couldn't even be asked for any work which is very hard to do, and if there is a need Master too needs to enjoin him/her to help.
4. And yes they were property of Masters, which is actually a punishment of what they have done, by doing evil practices and trying to continue those that's why they chose war. but yes if they want to be freed they were given this Right if they will not commit any crime to earn money.
Conclusion: Islam Ideally wants a Slave free society and that is the reason why numerous times Quran and Hadith orders to free Slaves, Islam Built a boundry for influx of slaves leaving one door for Prisoner of war, and on other hand made it so easy for a slave to be freed kaffara for various sins were expiation of slaves, it was mandatory to release some slaves in Eclipses as ordered by Prophet, And Most of the time Male slaves were married to females slaves bcz they might commit sin, and Quran Orders to Marry them off, also It was extremely recommended especially for Slave girls to be educated, freed and To be married by their masters themselves, Quran Does not even have a single verse for enslaving people even for POWs , but it was a necessity of that time bcz non muslims had this system running and they would made muslims as slaves but if muslims were not allowed it would prove to them as advantage ( You can co relate it to how Countries with Nuclear Weapons can easily crush countries without nuclear weapon like Russia Ukraine) so it was need of Ukraine to open one way for having Nuclear weapon, but if all countries accept to dis integrate nuclear weapons it will be very good.
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I'm hearing this explanation a lot that you can't compare today with the time of Mohammed, the governing laws were different and slavery was generally accepted, I get that...but where in the Quran does Allah condemn slavery? Trying to understand Islam.
+iCEL55 muhmmad had slaves , so why would it be condemned. muslim have enslaved millions of people for their caliphates
+iCEL55 The Quran encourages freeing slaves.
"Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveler, the beggars, and *to free the slaves*..." [2:177]
comb528491 Muhammad had slaves.
the Muslim slave trade was more extensive then the trans-Atlantic slave trade.
Qur'an (2:178) -"O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman"
Qur'an (16:75) - Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah. But most of them understand not.
Bukhari (80:753) - "The Prophet said, 'The freed slave belongs to the people who have freed him.'"
aran9901 Ka’b bin Malik narrates: The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him, fainted for an hour. When he had a relief he said: “Fear Allah! Fear Allah! In the treatment of what your right hands posses (i.e. slaves). Cover their backs (i.e. clothe them), fill their bellies and be kind to them in speaking.” (Ibn Sa’d’s Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir)
Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him, listed three people who will get the double reward. One of them is;
“Master of a slave-woman; who teaches her good manners, educates her in the best possible way (the religion), manumits her and then marries her.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 2358)
A large number of slaves were manumitted by him. Names of 22 of them are preserved in Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir of Ibn Sa’d. 6 additional are recorded in Tarikh al-Tabari. Maududi after a detailed study said that number of slaves manumitted by the Prophet, may Allah bless him, is 63. His wife ‘Ayesha, may Allah be pleased with her, set 67 of them free. Another 70 slaves were liberated by al-‘Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, the uncle of the Prophet. The number of those manumitted by another close companion ‘Abdul Rahman bin ‘Awf runs into thousands. (See Human Rights in Islam by Abu Al-A’la Maududi. Chapter 3, subsection 5)
Not to mention that it was in the Islamic world that freed slaves became kings.
comb528491 A slave is a slave, no matter how you try to dress it up, no matter how they are treated, they are still slaves. Any god or prophet that does not condemn slavery outright is a false god and a false prophet!
jazak Allah Khiran
We captured some of the females as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
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If the rights are so same then why not allow marry the slaves? Are they not equals? Is there the concept of purity and impurity with regards to chastity? What about marrying a rape victim?
Muntaha Amin in fact you can marry a slave if you free theme . they are not at same position as the others because they were in war n they wanted to kill theme .
slave has the right to get married according to
Quran chp 24 verse 32 and they can even ask for freedom Quran chp 24 verse 33
Most of the scholars and jurists have said that According to Quran chp 24 verse 32 if they show desire to get marry their should not be hindrance put by the masters
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@@decendantofkhan1736 watch farid responds channel videos on youtube,our brother farid has refuted all the anti-islamic claims
@@decendantofkhan1736 If you want to have sex with them
Marry them
That should have ben the rule
Not keeping her as your sex toy and using her whenever you want to
Amartya Prakash bruh he just said that slaves are allowed to get married. So what was the point of that question?
This comment section is a mess. Have you so little faith in your creator? Smh.
@Adam A. Sure sure. Can't explain to you what I mean.
@Adam A. The book is the revelation of God. Doubting the book is having doubts of your lord.
Lemme just say this
Islam allows rape of slaves
Hitting wives
And the guy you look up to fucked a 9 year old?
It's not a religion it's a cult
@@irfaansherief6167 judging by your language I dont think you should be a person anybody should take advice from lol
@@derekosgood3230why're you saying it like 'lol' is formal? Wow I never knew swearing meant I was bad at giving advice🤷🏽♂️smh
Please do more on mulkyameen - I still don't understand it
Exactly i have an issue with this topic and I am a Muslim
My question is, does current situation negate the past statement of Qur'an such as slavery and killing of non Muslims? If this is the case then your Qur'an is false because which past stements of the qur'an is or are not acceptable today that you do not do anymore? Do you mean you don't believe all the things that the qur'an says?
In islam was allowed only slavery of war prisoners,,,and Quran diesnt says to kill those who doesnt fight you
now regarding captives of hunain
1. Introduction
This article seeks to examine few Hadith reports in regards to the Hunayn (Awtas) battle. Our main focus would be in regards to the captive women.
Critics have deduced from some authentic reports in Sahih Muslim, and in Jami at-Tirmidhi that the Muslim warrior men had sexual relations with pagan women in front of their husbands.
The Hadith reports used for this claim are:
Narrated Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudri: “On the Day of Awtas, we captured some women who had husbands among the idolaters. So some of the men disliked that, so Allah, Most High, revealed: And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess… (4:24)” (Jami at-Tirmidhi volume 5, Book 44, Hadith 3016, Sahih (Darussalam))
And
“Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:” And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (Sahih Muslim Book 8, Hadith 3432)
See reference section for a brief discussion on the claim the women’s husbands were present. [1]
2. What Led to the Battle of Hunayn?
Before going into the details surrounding the women captives and what happened to them. Let us revisit some important details, why the battle of Hunayn occurred.
The battle of Hunayn took place as a result of the league tribes who formed alliances to attack the Muslim community. The tribes of Hawazin and Thaqif (Thakefites) were using Awtas area for the purposes of attacks against the Muslims. Awtas was used as a place for military purposes.
Ibn Sa’d (784 - 845 AD) reports to us:
“THE GHAZWAH OF THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH AGAINST HUNAYN, AND THE SAME WAS THE GHAZWAH OF HAWAZIN
… They (narrators) said: When the Apostle of Allah conquered Makkah, the notables of the Hawazin and the Thaqif moved from one side to the other. They assembled and rose in rebellion. Malik Ibn Awf al-Nasri had brought them together and he was then thirty years old. He ordered them and they brought with them their wealth, their WOMEN FOLK and their children. They MOBILIZED AT AWTAS AND THE SUPPORTERS WERE COMING TO THEM. THEY AGREED ON MARCHING AGAINST THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH.” [2]
This is also reported in Al-Tabari (838 - 923 AD):
“The Prophet had been staying in Mecca during the year of its conquest for only a forth-night when [he received the news that the clans of [Hawazin and Thaqif [were marching against Mecca and] had already encamped at Hunayn intending to fight him. Hunayn is a valley next to Dhu al-Majaz. Both the aforementioned tribes had assembled before [their match] after hearing about the Messenger of God’s departure from Medina, thinking that he was intending [to invade] them. When he learned that he had occupied Mecca, Hawazin marched against him [to Mecca] with their women, children, and possessions. Their leader was Mailk b. Awf from the Banu Nasr. [The clans of] thaqif joined forces with them and encamped at Hunayn intending to fight the Prophet. When the Prophet, still in Mecca, was informed about them he decided to march against them. He met them at Hunayn, and God, the Great and Mighty, inflicted defeat on them. God has mentioned this battle in the Qur’an. Since they HAD MARCHED WITH THEIR WOMEN, children, and flocks, God granted them as booty to His Messenger, who divided the spoils among those Quraysh who had [recently] embraced Islam. … When Malik [b. Awf] DECIDED TO MARCH AGAINST THE MESSENGER OF GOD, he took with his men their possessions, wives, and children. After making camp at AWTAS, the men gathered around him. Among them was Durayd b. al-Simmah, who was carried in a Howdah [Shijar]. As soon as he had encamped he inquired what valley they were in. When he was told that it was Awtas, he said: ‘What a wonderful place for CAVALRY! Neither a rugged hill, nor a soft lowland full of dust. …” [3]
We read that the war was started as a result of these tribes forming to attack the Muslim community. Hence, the only option left for the Muslims was to defend themselves.
Another crucial and important detail in these two reports show that enemies brought their women to aid the men in war. If they were innocent, they would not have come along with their husbands, knowing fully well that they were preparing to attack the Muslim community. Hence, these women were not innocent, their capture was legal.
Even today, in the most democratic countries in the western World, women who aid enemy combatants would be jailed.
3. Historically on Captives
Scholars were of the opinion that Muslim men and women captives were allowed to have mutual sexual relations. Although they were captured, that didn’t mean that the women were to be kept in a 4 meter by 4 meter cell for years without the hope of release or their physical needs not be met, be that clothes, food or any other matter.
Prisons didn’t exist in those days. Hence, when women were captured for aiding enemy in war, they were allocated by the government to households to be servants. This was the most humane thing to do in early Islamic period. Prior to Islam, the women who aided enemy in war, were killed. Many of these examples are given in the Bible. [4] [5] Whereas in Islam, killing women is forbidden (Haram). [6] [7] Hence why they were allocated to be servants for a period of time before they would be set free.
Another angle to understand this: some of these captive’s husband’s may have been killed. She may have had no involvement with the war, with her husband being killed who is going to provide for her or the kids? In those days the man was the breadwinner, providing the family with food, clothing and shelter. It would have been double the anxiety and hurt where she has lost her husband, and then find out after that there is no one who could provide them with money and food. Islam came to take care of the woman and her children’s needs.
4. The Rights of Captives
Speaking on the Hadith on Awtas incident, as mentioned, some claim that the women were ‘raped’. We have over 100.000 hadith, there is not a single report where it speaks about rape of captives. If you were to re-read the Hadiths in the introduction carefully, nowhere is there in any mention of rape or if any sexual relation even occurred. In-fact, when we read further, readers will come to know from earlier reports that all the women were set free and went back to their families. Some other women were given a choice to stay with their men or go back to their families.
Towards the end of the Hadith on Awtas event, it seems to mention that relations with women who were married is permissible. This part should not be taken literally. The captive-woman’s husband may have been dead, hence why the verse and the Hadith speak about marriage in this case. Classical scholars were of the opinion that marriage of captive man and a woman does not get annulled at all when imprisoned together: this is the opinion of Imam Abu Hanifa (699 - 767 AD), Imam Malik (711 - 795 AD). [8] [9] This was also the opinion of Imam Muhammad bin al-Hasan al-Shaybani (749 - 805 AD). [10] They were allowed to stay together. Their marriage is intact. Hence, any relation with them was forbidden.
There is strong historical evidence that the men weren’t even with the women when captured. Al-Jassas reports:
“Muhammad bin ‘Ali narrated: “When it was the day of Awtas, the (disbeliever) men fled to the mountains and their women were taken as captives.” (Ahkam al-Qur’an, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1994 volume 2 page 173)
Furthermore, even when relations were allowed, the man had to wait a period of one month. This is attested many early Hadith and classical scholars. [11] [12] If as critics claims that the Hadith was about sexual pleasure, why did they have to wait over a month?
The Muslim warriors were prohibited from forcing their captive-women to have relations. They were not allowed to just grab any women they like and have relations. Such acts were prohibited and it could get you executed in early period of Islam.
There is an early report from the second Caliph, Umar Ibn al-Khattab (b. 579 AD) where a Muslim man had relations with a captive, when he was not allowed to do so. Umar dictated that he be given the death penalty. This incident is reported in Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra:
“Khalid sent Dhirar bin al-Azwar in a party and they attacked an area of the tribe of Bani Asad. They captured a pretty woman, Dhirar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he had done. Khalid said: ‘I permit her for you and make it lawful to you.’ He said: ‘No not until you write to Umar (about this)’. (Khalid informed ‘Umar about this) and ‘Umar wrote back that he (i.e. Dhirar) should be stoned (to death). By the time ‘Umar’s message reached, Dhirar had died. Khalid said: ‘Allah did not want to disgrace Dhirar.’ [13]
The fact that no harm was to be inflicted on captives, those who were entrusted to the household, the relationship between the captive and the man was mutual. Sexual intimacy was not allowed if there was no consent from the woman. [14]
The Quran and hadith maintain and order Muslims to be kind and to feed the captives. Not harm them.
“And serve God and do not associate anything with Him and BE GOOD to the parents and to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the neighbour of (your) kin and neighbour who is not of kin, and the companion in a journey and the wayfarer and THOSE WHOM YOUR RIGHT HANDS POSSESS; surely God does not love him who is proud, boastful” - Quran 4:36
What do you mean by set free?
By marriage or conversion? This isn't freedom
thanks now i finally understand
alhamdulillah, i became ex muslim
This makes no sense. The prophet did rape slaves and allowed his followers to do so. Why does that change with time but everything else should be done the same way as Muhammad. Or do you just decide to dismiss the horrendous actions that you don’t like?
But a belief system that have these “old ideologies” still have a lasting affect on the present. You can’t ignore the past and think that it doesn’t have lasting effects.
Do you think the world will be this lovely all the time. do u not know what will happen after war take place?
You are very good at explaining what the Muslim laws were at the time in long-winded and incredible detail. As someone who is a non-Muslim all I am interested in is what are the Muslim laws TODAY, not 1500 years ago. Trying to understand Islam.
What would your answer be if I asked you that about the laws of your land? How would you put it in a video or TH-cam comment?
+Anonymous The laws of my country a clear, slavery is illegal in all its forms including sex slaves and human trafficking. Rape is illegal in all its forms. Whenever a husband forces his wife to have sex with him when she doesn't want to it is called rape and she can press charges and have him convicted in the court of law.
+iCEL55 It's not allowed now, in fact in the prophet's time, it was encouraged to free slaves. Eventually no slaves were left.
+Arya A This is an absolute lie. Tens of millions of slaves were taken from Africa alone over 1400 years of Islamic slavery. The Balkans were stripped of the cream of their youth by systematic Ottoman slave harvesting up until the 19th century.
Muslim societies were famous for their slave mercenary armies. Remember the Janissaries and the Mamluks?
Islam has been one of the most persistent and enduring slaving cultures in world history. Muslims not only took slaves for their own societies, but they provided slaves for the European market, which was simply an offshoot of the established Islamic slave trade in West Africa.
Now, we see dozens of Muslims here attempting to shunt blame onto the West and claim that Islamic slavery was so humane you can hardly call it slavery. In fact, it was cruel and involved trading, selling, raping, whipping and forcing labor from human beings on an enormous scale.
Sean Derry I've never heard of this before but just because all that happened, you can't automatically assume that Islam makes such acts permissible. People are not perfect, Islam is.
In fact, there are still many things that people do 'supposedly' in the name of Islam. It pisses me off so badly, for example, the practice of female genital mutilation in Africa and in my culture, marrying outside your race is apparently a massive sin when it's not! Arrgh.
I like how the Muslims in the comments write books to justify this cruelty.
Allah easily could have said “keep peace and do no harm to anybody, nor keep them as spoils of battle.”
There. That simple 🙄
Bro that's what I'm thinking
Whether the Qur'an said slavery was good or bad it still
Would of happened. So why not just say it's a sin instead of making
Excuses for it like everyone did it just the times back then bullshit.
@@lawramono4860 Mohammed sanctioned slavery. This means he encouraged it in his day, practiced it in his day, and his followers are to do so even today. Did you know FAR more African slaves died on the way -- on the way -- to lsIamic lands, than ever were sent to North America? Very, very few people in North America owned African slaves. Once the US was formed, it took only 89 years before people (with no Internet, no radios, no TVs, & many no access to newspapers) said slavery was outlawed in the Bible, and should be outlawed in the US. And over 600,000 young men gave their lives to end slavery in the newly formed US.
As for Africa, slavery continues today, in part due to tribal beliefs, and in large part due to the sanctioning of slavery in lsIam.
Taha Niya The only difference is the Bible is against colonialism. Islam supports colonialism. What are you talking about? Anything bad the western countries have done is never mentioned in the Bible and is instead condemned. Islam allows colonialism if it’s it to spread the religion, it can very well be halal. Islam says they’re against slavery yet allow the most perverse type; Sex slavery.
Where is the fun in that? Surely better to have sex with captured women? (lol)
@@Realivangarcia Bible allowes slavery on innocent people and children! Quran allows only slavery of war prisoners and also encourages freeing slaves
I want to see his sources linked in the notes! Be transparent with your references
Sahih Al-Bukhari 2227 [ You cannot enslave a free person]
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says, 'I will be against three persons on the Day of Resurrection: -1. One who makes a covenant in My Name, but he proves treacherous. -2. One who sells a free person (as a slave) and eats the price, -3. And one who employs a laborer and gets the full work done by him but does not pay him his wages.”
Also read Sahih al-Bukhari 6050
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." ...
Sahih Al Bukhari 5136
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
I asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) about a virgin whose marriage is solemnised by her guardian, whether it was necessary or not to consult her. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Yes, she must be consulted. 'A'isha reported: I told him that she feels shy, whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Her silence implies her consent.
Reference : Sahih Muslim 1420
@@FreePalestine_____ how can silence be taken as consent. Also what makes you think masters asked slaves for consent to sex with them?
This video presents the very telling issue of sex with ANOTHERS slave is unlawful and tries to apply it to all slaves. This is not correct. Nobody was punished for sex forced or otherwise with their own slave.
If a wife and a concubine are so similar why do they have different rights under classic Islamic law? This is not an honest video.
@@account_nameonline6420 //how can silence be taken as consent//
Read my comment again. 'A'isha reported: I told him that *she feels shy,* whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Her silence implies her consent.
Reference : Sahih Muslim 1420
[ You can't torture your slaves]
'Ali reported that the last words of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, were:
"The prayer! The prayer! Fear Allah concerning your slaves!"
Grade : Sahih (Al-Albani)
Reference : Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 158
In-book reference : Book 9, Hadith 3
//If a wife and a concubine are so similar why do they have different rights under classic Islamic law?//
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 46 Hadith 723
[You have to treat your slave as family]
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: The Prophet said, "He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward."
Slavery was the part and parcel of human civilization from the very beginning. Hence it couldn't be stopped at once all of a sudden. For example, drinking alcohol wasn't abolished at once rather slowly. Similarly Islam encouraged the freeing of slaves and at the same time good treatment with them which teaching people can bear. Islam is a practical religion, not theoretical.
[ Quran 4:36]
"Worship Allah ˹alone˺ and associate none with Him. And *be kind* to parents, relatives, orphans, the poor, near and distant neighbours, close friends, ˹needy˺ travellers, and *those in your possession.* Surely Allah does not like whoever is arrogant, boastful"
[Quran 90:12-13]
"And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? It is to free a slave,"
Qur'an 24:33 "But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until Allah enriches them from His bounty. And *those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation] from among whom your right hands possess - then make a contract with them if you know there is within them goodness and give them from the wealth of Allah* which He has given you. And *do not compel your slave girls to prostitution,* if they desire chastity, to seek [thereby] the temporary interests of worldly life. And if someone should compel them, then indeed, Allah is [to them], after their compulsion, Forgiving and Merciful.
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As we can clearly see, Islam says that if a slave request freedom, he/she can get it, including some money, in order for the slave to get a good jump start in life if the master can see honesty with him/her. You won't find this in any other scripture.
@@FreePalestine_____
You obviously didn’t understand that my question was rhetorical - when I asked “how can silence be taken as consent” I am noting that obvious issue that silence does not equal consent by any means. Silence is silence. Consent is an indication of agreement. A person can be raped and be completely silent all the way through - clearly they did not consent.
You state that you can’t torture your slaves. I accept that this may be true within Islam, but the hadith you cite has nothing to do with torture, nor did I even raise torture as an issue so I’m confused as to why you would raise it.
I asked about a concubine and wife and why the differed under classical Islamic law. You cited a hadith about treating slaves like family - you talk about the reward of treating slaves well but did you know that slave masters could have sex with their female slaves without her consent (at least its nowhere to be found in Islam, silence or no silence). Did you also know that a master could practice the withdrawal method with his slave (but not his wife) to avoid pregnancy? Did you know that a slave is not automatically free even if she bears him a child?
There is even a hadith about sex with war captives (right hand possessions) and a question about whether withdrawing early for contraceptive means is permissible (Bukhari 4138)
I agree slavery was part of human civilisation - but a shameful one. We look back on it and know its wrong. Even ancient people thought it was bad. All you are saying is that Islam was not strong enough to ban it outright. There is nothing in Islam banning slavery - not one verse. All slave civilisations had rules on how to free slaves - see how Romans integrated slaves into society for instance. It doesn’t make that civilization noble.
You also cite a Quranic verse to say be kind to “those in your possession” - let that sink in…In your possession meaning the literal ownership of a human being as property. This is not defensible no matter how kindly you want to treat them.
And yes you can free a person if they ask for it in most of the Sunni schools in classical Islamic jurisprudence which means the slave must work off a price IF you see good in them…only if you see good in them. Its up to the owner.
It’s also great that you don’t force your slave into prostitution but I wonder how much difference it is for the slave that must sleep with her master, possibly be sold to another master who also has sex with her and so on and so on…where is her capacity to refuse?
I encourage you to look at Zoroastrian slavery (Iranian) and the rules around slaves…its very similar to Islam actually …..
In any case I have been talking about this issue a lot with Muslims elsewhere and the Muslim answers to this topic is sad and depressing so forgive me if I don’t continue to respond.
@@account_nameonline6420 //Consent is an indication of agreement.//
The hadith I share about silence is about virgin as she feels shy to say 'yes'. If she says 'no' that means she didn't consent. If consent wasn't necessary then this hadith never existed in the first place.
//clearly they did not consent. //
More assumptions. You are talking about 7th century human civilization with 21st century mentality.
Rev. Samuel Burder (d. 1836 A.C.) writes;
“It was customary among the ancients for the women, who accompanied their fathers or husbands to battle, to put on their finest dresses and ornaments previous to an engagement, in order to attract the notice of the conqueror, if taken prisoners.” (Oriental Customs Or, an Illustration of the Sacred Scripture, Williams and Smith, London, 1807 vol.2 p.79)
//did I even raise torture as an issue//
Raping is a torture.
Prophet Muhammad[peace be upon him] taught us, "The Muslim is the one from whose tongue and hand the people are safe"(Sunane An-Nasa'i 4995)
Narrated Jarir bin `Abdullah:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Allah will not be merciful to those who are not merciful to mankind.
Sahih al-Bukhari 7376
In-book reference : Book 97, Hadith 6
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
Be devout and you will be the most pious of people. Be content and you will be the most grateful of people. Love for people what you love for yourself and you will be a believer. Behave well with your neighbors and you will be a Muslim. Laugh less, for excessive laughter will deaden the heart.
Source: Sunan Ibn Mājah 4217, Source: Sahih
“A good deed done to an animal is as meritorious as a good deed done to a human being, while an act of cruelty to an animal is as bad as an act of cruelty to a human being."-Prophet Muhammad (Mishkat al-Masabih; Book 6; Chapter 7, 8:178)
I can go on and on.
In Islam if a master has sex with his slave, then when the slave girl is pregnant, she and her child is automatically freed after the masters death. But that’s not the only way a slave can get freedom, infact if a slave request his/her freedom, she or he can get it!
Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: "He who believes in Allah and the Hereafter, if he witnesses any matter he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. Act kindly towards woman, ... (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Book 008, Number 3468)
These hadiths are talking about women in general. Forcing someone into sex/martial rape is using anger!
Narrated Abu Huraira: "A man said to the Prophet , 'Advise me! 'The Prophet said, 'Do not become angry and furious.' The man asked (the same) again and again, and the Prophet said in each case, 'Do not become angry and furious.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 137)"
The masters were obliged not to put slaves under hardship; slaves were not to be tortured, abused or treated unjustly. They could marry among “themselves with their master's permission - or with free men or women ! They could appear as witnesses and participate with free men in all “affairs. Many of them were appointed as governors, commanders of army and administrators. In the eyes of Islam, a pious slave has precedence over “an impious free man." Source: Al-Tabataba'i, Tafsir ( vol.16, pp. 338-358 )
“Arrange the marriage of the spouseless among you, and the capable from among your bondmen and bondwomen.” (Qur’an 24:32)
Had the purpose of taking slave-women been sexual pleasure, there was no point in asking the masters to make it easy for the slave-women to get married and become unlawful for the masters.
During the time of ‘Umar- may Allah be pleased with him- a person was brought to him for cohabiting with his slave-woman who was married to someone, he punished him severely with hundred lashes. See Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, Narration 29152-29153, Muhammad Awwama ed.
It was a war custom in the past to take men and women as captives and then turn them into slaves or slaughter them, otherwise they could reproduce and take revenge. Islam did not initiate it, rather, it was something in practice long ago before the advent of Islam. And when Islam tried to eradicate this practice, bit by bit. So it first restricted it to the reciprocal practice of war, in the sense that Muslims took war captives just as the enemies did with Muslims.
The great classical scholar Abu Walid al-Baji al-Maliki (d. 474 A.H./1081 A.C.) writes;
“… the very purpose of marriage is (to make) intercourse (permissible) but the purpose of possession (of slave-women) is not intercourse.” (Al-Muntaqa Sharah al-Muwatta, Darul Kitab al-Islami, Cairo, 1332 A.H. vol.4 p.82)
Consider the following report;:
Khalid sent Dhirar bin al-Azwar in a party and they attacked an area of the tribe of Bani Asad. They captured a pretty woman, Dhirar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he had done. Khalid said: 'I permit her for you and make it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write to Umar (about this)'. (Khalid informed ‘Umar about this) and ‘Umar wrote back that he (i.e. Dhirar) should be stoned (to death). By the time ‘Umar's message reached, Dhirar had died. Khalid said: 'Allah did not want to disgrace Dhirar.’ (Al-Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 2003 vol.9 p.177 Hadith 18222)
Had the taking of captives only been for sexual pleasure there was no need to instruct for such a harsh punishment. This proves women are not slaved for physical pleasure.
Imam Malik (d. 179 A.H.) said: "In our view man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, he must pay the dower of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman.” (Muwatta, Book 36, Chapter 16, Narration 14)
Umar- may Allah be pleased with him- said: “Her child makes her free, even if it is dead.” (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, narration 21894)
The great classical Muslim scholar from Spain, Abu Walid al-Baji clarified this in categorical wording:
“… the very purpose of marriage is (to make) intercourse (permissible) but the purpose of possession (of slave-women) is not intercourse.” (Al-Muntaqa Sharah al-Muwatta)
Thank you sheikh for even studying this topic. I've been going through TH-cam to find what Islam says about "marital rape" I'm not married or been married yet, but "rape" itself in or out of wedlock is the worst fear of every girl, I've seen couple videos of well known sheikhs before I came across your video, they all said it as if a woman's consent isn't needed when her husband wants to have sex. I knew at this point that they were only talking their opinion, a man's opinion. Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim woman. And I can count on my religion for Allah hates tyranny.
@Msvks rape is not allowed
Rape is not allowed in ISLAM...
@Msvks where do you get forcefully or as you say rape!....can you look at the book of Deuteronomy what it's been said about the captives
...or should I present it to u
@Msvks Deuteronomy 20-25
@Msvks what two wrongs ....what would you do when you win the war ....you left the woman and children's so that they may take revenge without any cautionary
Slavery and slave sex is bad, PERIOD.
You can't be a Muslim then!
Islamic rules dont care whether you lived in the past or present day. Islamic law does not change. Slavery is still halal today by islam but illegal by goverments. Surley islamic law comes first before government laws
That is absolutely true, yet today moderate Muslims try to say the opposite. If you read Quran 4:24 and the tafsirs, it's very clear what it means and what the classical scholars mean. Also, there are sahih hadiths that explain this verse, and no classical Islamic scholar would ever argue against these sources and the Quran.
I wish the last part was true in today’s times
As much respect I have for Omar Suleiman and the Bayyinah Institute, I do believe they have neither understood this topic nor explained it properly.
I hope this helps iA-
1) Islam says that one is *NOT* allowed to keep slaves *if the slave wants to be free* , however if the slave wants to be provided by its owner family, he must not be tortured or hit or mistreated, the rights are like that of an employee but instead of a salary, they receive food and shelter and healthcare, *ONLY* if they consent. Prophet Muhammad SAW, did not have any slaves, he freed slaves, and adopted a former slave as his own son, who he said will be known as Zaid Bint Muhammad (Zaid the son of Muhammad). Islam forbids slavery against an individuals will. Some of the greatest admirals and advisors to the Ottoman and Abbasid empires were former slaves too.
2) And as for slaves that were "captured" after wars - men or women, were the same as modern day prisoners of war, who are taken as prisoners in order to prevent future attacks from them. In the current times, prisoners of wars are kept in jails. However, in the islamic law, even prisoners of wars are allowed to live and work and be provided with food, shelter and *if they desire* then upon their own consent, they have a right to sexual relations as well. Even the prisoners of wars were forbidden from being mistreated. However, even slaves who came in prisoner war, men or women, had a right to freedom if they pledged allegiance to the party they had previously waged the war against.
3) Islam does not believe in judo-biblical or hindu ideas of slavery by birth or by nature. Nor does it say that slaves must only be of a certain race or gender or religion. The war laws, include wars that were fought between muslims and people of the same race/caste.
4) HENCE AS A SUMMARY-
The idea of slavery in islam falls under three categories
(A) slaves as prisoners of war, who instead of being kept in jails and tortured, were given the right to life, food, healthcare, home, gratification of *consensual* sexual desires and humane treatment in exchange of services.
(B) slavery with consent, for those men or women who wanted to avoid poverty and homelessness, in exchange of their loyalty to one particular owner or a family. Thus, for their services on the fields or plantations or at home, they received food, home, healthcare, gratification of sexual *consensual* sexual desires and humane treatment.
(C) slavery against will- forbidden by islam and demonstrated in the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW, who freed brought slaves from owners simply with the purpose of FREEING them.
Salam.
Yes that is the most common interpretation of it...but that's not how to was originally meant to be
If you are addressing non_Muslims in the West in order to explain or defend Islam, you need to make it more basic and not use Arabic (they dont understand and wont listen) and keep it simple.
+Sarah Bouachir
This isn't for non-Muslims. If you need to explain or defend Islam and you are on the topic of rape, you have a way deeper problem that needs to be addressed.
Adnan Ilyas It should be for everyone and someone needs to defend Muslims. Sitting and ignoring whats happening in the world...choosing to stay quiet, THATS why we are having problems.
Sarah Bouachir No, that's not my point. My point was that talking about rape should not be a priority. If people are asking and attacking Islam in regards to rape, then there is an underlying issue that needs to be addressed. That other issue needs to be corrected or it won't really matter.
+Sarah Bouachir I understood it. It was really easy to understand.
+Adnan Ilyas Rape is always a priority and should always be talked about.
I think the Quran is very clear on the topic of forcing sex upon war captives "And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, if they desire chastity, to seek [thereby] the temporary interests of worldly life. And if someone should compel them, then indeed, Allah is [to them], after their compulsion, Forgiving and Merciful." Quran 24:33
it refers to the incident of Ibn Salul
Slavery according to JESUS IN THE BIBLE
You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Allaah Says (what means): {But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until Allaah enriches them from His bounty. And those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation by purchasing their freedom from their owners for a price agreed upon] from among whom your right hands possess - then make a contract with them if you know there is within them goodness and give them from the wealth of Allaah which He has given you. And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, if they desire chastity, to seek [thereby] the temporary interests of worldly life. And if someone should compel them, then indeed, Allaah is [to them], after their compulsion, Forgiving and Merciful.}[Quran 24:33]
The above verse is an order from Allaah to whoever is not able to marry to abstain from illegal sexual relations, like the Prophet  said: "O young people, whoever is able to marry should marry, and whoever is not able to do so, he should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual desires."Then the verse advised those who own slaves to make a contract with those slaves who seek such a contract to pay money in order to emancipate themselves.
However, it is not permissible for a woman to commit Zina (adultery or fornication) whether she is a slave woman or a free woman, and it is not permissible for her master to allow her to do so; rather, he is obliged to prevent her from committing Zina according to his ability. This verse was revealed to clarify what used to happen at that time as some hypocrites, like ‘Abdullaah ibn Ubay ibn Salool, used to compel their slave girls to commit Zina so that they would bring them some money, so the verse prohibited them from doing so.
Here's the explanation and real surah
@@parkerflop I did not understand what do u mean?
@@khanpukhtun1458 What is it quran 24:33 ?
There is a huge difference between calling someone treating them like a slave..what about others who treat their wives worse than slaves..islam is the kind religion.
Y’know as a muslim this is the thing i always dislike people who act like we never committed some bad stuff and atrocities back in the days and think that our religion is this thing that is flawless and there’s no bad people in it
Yes Muslims can can have Flaws but Islam can't. and tell me how do you reject or accept what is good or what is bad?
@@physicswallahkaadda4114 other than religion its by generally civic education
@@Hotlmao so according to some people Drugs should be banned as in India and in other places like Canada People say it is no wrong now how will you decide whose civic education is right?
@@Hotlmao china says age of consent for relationship is 12 yrs USA says 16 yrs, India Says 18 yrs Who is right? and why?
@@physicswallahkaadda4114 well for that i think its from science and all that funky knowledge stuff about how this and this done to your body and mind. For example i think drugs should be illegal or atleast legal with some limit as how much you take because it can affect your health and for the age of consent i think it should’ve been 18 because teens makes dumb decisions all the time
As far as I know Quran never talked about rape as if concept of rape did not exit at that time. It is has problem with adultery, and quran keep repeating about how adultery is horrible. But I don't remember it has any verse about rape.
It’s actually mentioned in a Hadith, there was a woman who was about to be r*ped & she killed him and Umar found out and basically said that she didn’t do anything wrong, obviously I’m paraphrasing but instances like this are mentioned in the Ahadith
i think the world actually needs a booklet for this. atleast a pdf file.for the people to learn something of what people are really doubtful of. one of the great works of the Sheikh undoubtedly.
+Muhammad Hamza Well, they're certainly not going to playing this on FOX News or CNN any time soon, so you're probably right.
The Islam culture is nothing short of amazing to me. Absolutely amazing.
Do you want to become muslim?
Law write or wrong fair or unfair
Brother do check chapter 24 verse 33
People who find a problem with this lecture maybe either didn't watch or didn't pay heed to the opening message of this lecture. He clearly states that we are talking about the past and we cannot analyse the past with the lense of the present. Slavery is something that was legal in the past around the world including Islam and now that has changed both in the secular and Islamic world. And if you want to look at our prophet pbuh as the only prophet to condone slavery then look again. In the bible it is clearly stated of other prophets having slaves/concubines such as Hagar the mother of Ishmael pbuh and slave/concubine of Sarah who was gifted to the prophet Abraham pbuh (her husband) because Sarah was barren. The prophet Solomon pbuh having several hundred concubines. This whole lecture was about the rights that were given to slaves in a time where slavery was ripe around the world and Islam was the first religion to grant slaves their rights. Peace.
Jahanzeb Butt but why was it legal in the past?
"we are talking about the past and we cannot analyse the past with the lense of the present"
So you agree that the morality of the Quran is obsoleted and barbaric by todays standards right?
@@samuelvimes7686 No, but I agree that it was logical. You people sound extremely naive and closed minded crying about atrocities in the past that you could never understand having lived in the 21st century. Certain laws in Islam had to be carried out in steps because you can't just dumped something on a people that are so set in their ways without paving the way for it peacefully first. You will always be met with resistance. In another 100 years from now for all we know eating meat may become illegal and a punishable offence with people harping on about how horrible all religions are for allowing the eating of meat. Then someone would say 'but it was normal back then?' and everyone would bite their head off about how it should have never been allowed. And that's because people in their nature are sheep that can't think for themselves and when something becomes a mainstream thought they all jump on the bandwagon whether it is good or detrimental to society.
It was clear Islam was paving the way to the abolishment of slavery. Also, Islamically you are meant to go with what is socially acceptable for the time period and country you live in as long as it does not go against your core beliefs and duties as a Muslim. Therefore, slavery IS forbidden for all Muslims nowadays.
@@Falasteen7urra Islam paving the way for abolishment of slavery? It took its sweet time considering the last countries that officially abolished slavery all happened to be muslim majority/Islamic countries, and they did it under pressure from the western world. Hell, Saudi Arabia still had open slave markets in the 1960's.
You agree slavery was logical? Islamic fundamentalists like ISIS still think its logical today. Slavery is and always will be unethically morally unacceptable, regardless if the made up god of the Bible and Quran justifies it or not
@@samuelvimes7686 Please don't twist my words. I mentioned that it's logical in that it wasn't instantly abolished in that time period and I explained why. There are multiple stories of slaves begging their masters to take them back after being freed because it is the only life they have ever known. I think it's a much more complex and grey issue than you would all like to believe. We didn't live in that time period and don't know how life was like for people then and clearly they had a completely different mentality and societal laws to us now.
There might not be an outright verse that calls for abolition of slavery but one of the strongest proofs of Islam paving the way for it is Chapter 90 of the Qur’an, where God gives believers a choice between two paths. The righteous will travel on the steep path and the unrighteous will travel on the other. God asks believers, “what will make you know what the steep path is? It is the freeing of a slave” (90:12-13)
It’s basically difficult to find any references on how to make slaves out of people in the Quran but the focus is always on ending slavery and the rewards you will get for doing so. Just because some Muslim majority countries took their sweet time getting rid of it entirely is no fault of the religion itself as it has never ever encouraged slavery.
Allah found it high priority to make pork forbidden but decided to regulate slavery and give slave owning etiquette.
Okay, all the people saying that slavery-a major attribute of the history should have been forbidden altogether. Now, tell me islam also forbids fornication and raping. Did that stop this modern so called humane world to not do that? To not rape, fornicate and kill???? Its easy judging past on present terms but whats worse is the present is worse than the past in regarda to people's actions.
@@tayyabahassan6671 Really?! Have you read Quran 4:24 and why it was revealed (hadiths and tafsirs)? "We captured some women on the Day of Awtas and they had husbands among their people. That was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) so Allah revealed: '...And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess... (4:24)'" at-Tirmidhi
Ibn ‘Abbâs: (And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War
Al-Jalalayn: save what your right hands own, of captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses among the enemy camp
Ibn Kathir: (except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women... Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed, e
وَالْمُحْصَنَـتُ مِنَ النِّسَآءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكْتَ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ
(Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.''
And what about MUTA? The Quran allows it, and that's sex outside of a marriage.
Good point
Is concubinage the same as polygamy? What of the question of rape vis a vis girls’ being forced into marriage - an ever present issue in certain cultures?
Islam is filthy pagan cult. Slavery, subjugation, intimidation are its components - even islamic heaven is full of dirty sex and slavery.
Walaykumsalam.... plz keep it up ....helpd me alot
Indeed Allah is fair and he dose reveal things to his people closest to him, I already knew all these things without anyone telling me or seen it in the Qu'ran or Hadiths, so it becomes a confirmation to me when I hear it from a Muslim scholar or see it in the Hadith or Qu'ran, then I realised that it was Allah that revealed it to me, it feels too good to feel like you are one of the closest people to Allah.
astafurghlah. this made me question my religion. im sorry
Quran and Sunnah are our guiding light. I don't think Divine revelation would constitute raping, it is very disturbing and thank you brother for explaining it in details.
What good is any law if no one obeys them?