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What qualities should a father and mother have in order to properly raise a son?
Be biologically male and female
don't be like Anisa and Idubbbz
Not become overprotective over time. Allow the son to be able to incrementally experiment on doing the act of providing, so as to not become spoiled and dependent as they grow older
Idk I'm too early to decide how parents should raise
@@Just_another_turtle brave of you
This story can be seen from various perspectives. The kid was intentionally disturbing the guy who beat him - so he lied about bullying. Then he trained to take revenge, got kicked out, and taught his son to be a fighter too. The father's intentions and approach were 100% appropriate as he thought the kid was bullied. For me this story shows the long-lasting damage a single small lie can cause.
I was looking for a comment like this, I was thinking the same thing.
so the father with the trans son is the son of the father with the mustache?
@@bane8305 yes, you can also notice it by the face shape.
Was Ivo's father really the bratty kid in this video? I was confused on how Ivo and his father fit into this video, but if true that's wild.
@@bane8305 the son isn't trans? But yea the feminine sons father was the kid at the start of the video
Junior: "Oh okay.." "Did you win?"
Dad: "Of course I do."
Junior: "NOIIIICE."
Not gonna lie if i my dad tell me that i will say the same
@@yustikasari6679 If your *son ?
@@jefferson0-1 yes
He assulted the kid that beat him up the first time and lost , ofc he didnt win! Only if you know those kind of people like my father much men for nothing , you know how they lie. They might have some good qualities and powers but they aint real strong leader males. Only honest men are like Demetrius Johnson or Henry Cejudo , Max Holloway or Alexander Volkanvski and the list goes on!
@@jefferson0-1 son is androgynous.
But is son, indeed.
The funny thing about school and bullying is that it can go on for months or years without any answer , but as soon the victim defends himself , the school jump on him.
Very classic.
It's important that you can proof that you made a report in time. Then it's much harder to hit you.
The same with the Police, you have to be the first who calls them.
you have to expose the bully. If you just strike back without any caution it will make the situation even worse.
@@deleteduser8652 How would someone "expose" the bully and what should he do until that?
@@qq84 maybe be always around teachers or janitors?
@@qq84 these days with cameras and stuff you would just have to record something and you got them.
back in my days even the teachers would be in on it. i remember each time the school yard was about to gang up on me the teacher/watcher would take some girls back inside for some bullshit reason to avoid it all. then as soon as i started fighting back she would come up running yelling my name. i would have only needed a single recording to fuck them up. can you imagine a video like this on the news? the whole school board would get fired. you would be golden for years.
I never fought back against my bullies. I still regret it to this day. I played it safe and didn’t want to get in trouble with my parents and the school. This is probably one of the reasons why I get overly defensive whenever I perceive someone being disrespectful towards me. “Just ignore them” was horrible advice. But today as an adult you have to pick your battles and it’s hard for me to do that because I never took the chance to defend myself when I was younger.
Same for me. This video just brought it all back
@@smuggler9837 the thing is, he made an assumption of what his parents were going to do. To be fair I did as well. First time I was seriously bullied, my parents weren't happy about it. But, I noticed, no one helped, and, no one pointed the finger. You can't depend on people to save you. When I fought back though and got detention my mom was very happy. Really, it's the dumb environment we are in. Kids aren't being raised right. I've never been picked on since. But, kids don't learn the rules of the jungle anymore. We are in a feminine society now. Kids learn to run to authority and play victim.
You really don't need to pick battles. Just don't live in US or UK(Australia,Canada, new zealand) if you're white
i 100% relate to whatever you're saying especially the part where you said you get overtly defensive whenever you perceive someone being disrespectful towards you. It also follows with not being able to take constructive criticism and being extremely defensive atleast in my case.
@@sairohit8201I've been there too and I know how you feel. you have a deep wound that hasn't fully closed. you need to canalize all this. sign up for any combat sport, martial arts or anything that requires heart and competition. also work on your character.
convince yourself that you will never let anyone walk all over you again. so you can finally look back with compassion and not regret and resentment.
1:42 "if we dont sign him for some lessons, bullying will never stop" is 110% scientifically accurate, cruel world we live in, props to the parents for worrying about the kid
I think the mustach dad was right honestly. If he's a pushover now he'll probably always be one because that's what he's been taught.
And sometimes there aren't other ways around a fight. You just gotta do it. Especially at school with all those useless teachers that don't care about what's happening.
I was bullied for 9 years in school, and what stopped it was that I fought back. Once.
Everyone in family told me "ignore them, they will leave you". Instead they turned me into a punching bag that would never fight back. But one day my usual bully went overboard. He harassed my girlfirend. So I responded. I threw a cup from my thermost at him, and stood tall while he assesed the situation. He quickly pinned me down to a wall, beat me up, and then the teacher arrived. He had some issues due to that, evem tho all my "friends" said I attacked him unprovoked... Still, he ignored me till the end of the school. Literally ignored my existence. Zero interaction, like I was air. It was... refreshing. Hell I noticed even some girls were picking on me, but I didn't knew if it was because I fought back, or because everyone than knew I just got a girlfriend.
Some dude back in HS attempted to bully me and I threw a pencil case in his face. Another time i wrote in my social media profile "official son of a bitch list" and right below it his name. After he found out we fought the next day for a few minutes and then we were cool with each other.
@@WwZa7 Same here, 9 years, 2 changes of school, the bullying stopped once I punched some guy harassing me strong enough to make him bleed (honestly don't know where the power to do that came from, I was very weak).
Was send to the principal office, told that it was a dissappointed of my part for doing that kind of thing, that I was a calm, smart boy and it was bad for putting myself in that position (this cames after a lot of years of complaints of my part about the bullying, with teachers doing nothing FOR YEARS, one of the time I had to skipped 1 week of school because of an injury, no consequences to the bully).
I felt like crying in that office, but after that, no one dare to bully me. I'm not ashamed and regret nothing.
I confirm, ome good punch and he will think twice next time.
I had fights back in high school which sucked but after I took boxing lessons, I was able to finally stand up, but threatened to be suspended. It’s amazing how those who bully end up ratting you out when you gave the respect to not rat them out.
Rats will always be rats
But in the end its not you who is the rat.
It's because bullies are criminally minded, and Dr. Jordan Peterson explained that the criminally minded and the tyrannically minded are nearly always the same except one is socially respectable and one isn't. It's about controlling you and making the rules always bend in their favor.
@@grant9589 nah back in school we beat up each other just for the sake of it. No one got any kind of detention. No rats. 10 years later we are all still a solid friend group
@@grant9589 Jordan Peterson is the man. That guy literally doesn't deserve hate, just want to make our people strong and wise.
3:32 go cook dinner or something lmao.
😂😂😂
😂😂
4:34 That’s some great storytelling here. It ties into the dad’s life as well as his lessons for his son. In the real world, no one is gonna hold your hand through life telling you sweet lies to make you feel better. The world is cruel and it’s beautiful at the same time. Learning to defend yourself especially as a kid developing through life is great.
The dad looks like senator armstrong
the son is so fucking hot 🥵🥵🥵
It's funny how everybody write about bullying while this isn't a case. Young lad from this ep at the very first moment was shown as this clown figure screwing with other ppl. He got himself into a fight which he lost, and to look good in eyes of his parents, he told them that "they are picking on him" and that he is "bullied" - which was not the case.
This should very much be highlighted. Often the victim plays the bully, then easily cries victim again when it suits them (or when they get pummeled back by people who won't take their shit).
Exactly. Parents should teach their son to respect others and be negotiable first. Violence should always be the last resort.
I was bullied only once at school by just one guy. I was the kind of a kid to tell teachers and stuff, maybe that's why he hated me, but everyone else really didn't seem to care about our little conflict. It ended when our parents phoned each other. After that I genuinely apologized to him for being a snitch, he said sorry too. Then we just never talked.
A lot of the times I really wanted to just retaliate and straight up fight him, but I'm glad I didn't. I can imagine the unnecessary injuries, the expelling, and worse, not acknowledging me being wrong.
But idk, maybe I'm just lucky because I was going to the schools where studying could get really intense and competitive, so kids didn't have time for any of that bull.
It went well for him tho. Anyway, this char isn't portrayed as a paragon of virtue even in previous episodes.
Even so I dunno if knocking a drink out of someones hands is enough for a full on fight. Maybe a punch in the head though lol.
@@Infelious it's one thing when it's accidental, but not when it's intentional. We were shown only "slice" of this kid life, since he got his ass kicked, he had to work for it.
I was such a timid kid, terrified of getting in trouble at school and at home. Was bullied relentlessly, more physically than not and I will always regret not standing up for myself, it keeps me up at night. I have a son now about to start Primary School and I won’t let him make the same mistake and me
Wish you the best💪
I have the same story as you, and every time I think about it, I feel like I want to disappear from the face of the world. This video just brought it all back..
@@smuggler9837 this channel has a way of doing that hey
I went through this a few years back, and I 100% agree. I'm never gonna let my kid go through that.
You should heal from that, don't dwell on that shit.
I love seeing their relationship as a father and son grow. He knows his kid is different but he still wants whats best for him.
i mean the dad isnt wrong.
calling the school wont do shit , the bully wont stop.
The dad took it too far saying he should leave the bully with a few brain cells. Kids cant even comprehend what that means.
Agree, the only thing the victim can do is fight back even if he lose the fight
@@chc2650 Bully sets them up the way that someones life is going to get ruined. Let the bully ruin your life or you ruin his. You didnt force the situation.
I feel like in the new generation teachers have acknowledged bullying and stuff so the only thing you need to do is to be brave enough to rat on the bully.
I mean thats for where I live
Even worse, calling the school simply puts a target on the kid's back as a weak snitch. It's the surest way to get pretty much everyone to despise you. Back in school, I had to man up and fight back too. Will never regret that and won't hold grudge against the bullies.
Dad: go cook dinner or something
Mom: we already ate
Dad: read a book
😂
Chad Dad
he really did sound like Ivor's dad in that moment; who is sort of ...listening to his wife but mostly just sure he has the whole situation well in hand
edit: oh, he's Ivor's granddad. I guess that's why
Based
As a former bullied child I have to admit my parents signing me for muay thai class totally changed my life. Not only I was able to defend myself, it also teached me discipline and strenght of mind. It literally changed myself when I was at my lowest and I am honestly not sure if I could have all these things that make me happy today if it was not for that introduction to combat sport when I was a teenager.
5:09 the narraters voice 💀
Narrator*
As someone who was bullied in school, i can affirm that fighting back is the only way. One day in middle school, i had enough of the bullies, and i fought back. I knocked the hell out of them. Got detention for 2 weeks, they got out scott free, but at least they never bothered me from then on out. No one did.
That totally happened
Same, if you do nothing the it just continues. And the school and the teachers won't protect you. The only way a kid can be confident to protect themselves is if they know that their parents have got their back.
Get help from the kid named 2nd amendment right
And then everyone started clapping and I did a backflip 😎
@@BD90.. that is the reason why so many kids don't fight their bullies, their parent don't support them enough...
I love how he portrays every character, with reasonable understanding instead of what we listen/read on the internet, just like the way men who are physically tough are often labeled as "toxic masculine".
Yeah its beautifully written
These videos are such onions, they all have layers. It's refreshing, especially since so many have the ”us vs them” mindset online these days.
Bald man, taller than 5’10, good muscles and body structure, clearly physically stronger than average, likes to keep to himself and has a very forward and clear-cut way of speaking, all this obtained through discipline and hard work.
“What an asshole. I bet he abuses people and tries to act all tough.”
Nobody does that bro
I mean, despite what you might think, "toxic masculinity" is a very specific set of attitudes. Just because someone's manly, muscular and interested in physical activities, doesn't mean they are in any way toxic
I was bullied during my middle school years, I would have liked to see this kind of content during those years but social media and TH-cam were not yet at this level (I was born in 93). I never fought back, never, only a few times verbally when I was 19/20. The thought of never reacting still haunts me today and has affected my life
Im in the same boat as im so incredibly dissapointed in myself for not reacting properly. But we cant go back in time so just defend yourself next time
My situation was a lot darker and twisted. I trained my ass off to look intimidating, but fighting back would have made it infinitely worse. My punishment at home from my abusive father would have been far worse than anything the bullies could ever do to me. My mother just left for her friend's house if he went ape shit on my brother or I. Sometimes you can't fight back. It's a very good thing I left my home state, because I don't know what I'd do if I saw him again.
lol I think u took this way too deep
@@ivix9536 how? i think its perfectly understandable how he feels like that
The end card of "At least try" resonates so much with me. Throughout pretty much anything that wasn't academic, I did not want to try because I was scared of what would happen if it went wrong. Now, I've moved beyond that, and trying isn't as much of an issue for me. Of course I still get nervous, everyone does, but that doesn't mean I'm unwilling to take risks now.
Same. Need to learn it. I never tried in life because I was always more afraid of failing than actually failing.. sad tbh. Lost so many opportunities.
@@CanariasCanariass same, lost so many chances in life just for the fear of failure
Are you from America?
In my view, a parent's role is not merely to offer a temporary fix to a particular issue, but to impart the principles that shape your character and influence your approach to life's challenges. Therefore, what holds greater significance is not the decision between reporting someone or taking matters into your own hands, but rather the indomitable fighting spirit that drives you to confront difficulties with determination and resilience.
Agreed! I love his videos about the father-and-son duo because they aren't the same-old talking points like "men are getting feminine and weak". It shows you multiple perspectives without scrutinizing or glorifying any of them, allowing you to make the conclusion. Maybe it's just me, but I think that the duo shows that people aren't losing their values, it's just that they are conveyed differently in different eras and that every person was, is and will be an exception.
I agree that a parent should impart the principles and teach rightful lessons to their offspring, but what matters is how do they do it?
In this video, the mum is right in part, and dad is right in part as well. What can one do if they find themselves in situations wherein they are left bereft of any way to discard violence? They have to defend themselves and in that, be subject to possible expedience.
But on the other hand, we also have circumstances wherein retaliating seems cunning and desirable but at the same time is avoidable at the expense of disapproval from our peer/friends. And in such circumstances, we should, in my opinion take a step back and discard any altercation even if it is a win-win and very much desirable, I would say that this would help avoid 99% of physical altercations and can also consolidate ones presence due to the mere fact that they are so very not desirable in the arena of retaliation.
I hate that this is merely an option and not an objective fact.
@@tomtexas4897 The human mind is far too complex for anything like this to be a fact. But I think that it's as close as it gets.
Exactly, confronting someone or something is about standing your ground, not taking revenge. And there are many ways you can do that without resorting to violence, which should be worst case scenario
2:49 *Cenk Uygur nephew
u're welcome
What does it mean ?
That street fighter 2 turbo reference was pure gold
I wish my father was like that. I would like someone to teach me the rules of life in my childhood.
Same, my dad is a good person and I felt sorry for him as he was taken advantages of his"nice guy" reputation.
I wish if I have a son, I could rectify some mistakes and make him not like me and my dad .
And what types of rules to be exact??
same:( lack of parental guide mixed with mental disorders is killing me off slowly, stay strong kings
@@0187
Same here bro, too messed up from a broken parents, now I am paying the price mentally and it feels impossible to reprogram my mind as it has been damaged too much.
@@CanariasCanariass yup, im trying to find a solution but so far nothing helped
Mom is definitely in the wrong here, father is trying to do what's good for his son. Schools won't do anything, even when I was a kid in the 90's.
Mom is being mom. I mean, stereotypical mom behavior.
My mother was closer to how the dad was but more cruel, she in that situation basically said if I didn't kick the shit out of the bullies should would kick the shit out of me instead, I was 5 btw. I wish I had someone to take a real feminine roll to counter her, due to how she was I became hyper aggressive and I still am, I'm about 30 now...
Even if the mother is in the wrong her I do think she is needed for some kinda counter balance.
@@Infelious the father I here was correct. After someone starts shit. Don't start shit yourself
@@jjj8317 Not saying he wasn't, I agree fighting back is right but I do think having a real mother is good too even if she is useless in this situation.
Didn't yall see that he's the one who started and then got beaten? 💀 , he's probably a bully himself
I was bullied hard when I was younger and I confirm there is nothing more frustrating to not atleast try to defend yourself.
I wish I did.
I made the mistake to listen to those adults who told me that I should ignore the bullies or give them the other cheek until it stopped.
It never stopped and it destroyed me.
I was ashamed to even tell my parents but I tried to get help from the teachers. It's useless, they don't care or they give you garbage advice.
Fighting is the only way.
Now I am 30 and my life is a mess. I can't connect with people despite wanting to. I can't have a girlfriend.
I feel like a failiure everyday.
Like the video said atleast try.
I remember my first school fight (age 12). My mom was angry at me for fighting, but my dad was proud I didn't let myself get picked on. He didn't condone fighting, but if someone was messing with you, handle it.
The old saying: "I don't start it but I end it."
I don't get it pls someone explain.
You see the entire video Ivo's Dad backstory
Backstory
I am waiting for the video with "Mr. Sizzy" apologizing for... ? ;) nice youtube films in the film.
Always listen to your mother. Fathers were a mistake.
SF2?
Back in school I was picked on for a speech issue I had. The majority of the school was into bullying each other into some kind of stupid hierarchy, there were fights on a daily basis regardless of where you spent your time.
I defended myself properly against physical bullying, I even made one guy shit himself with a lucky hit, but the bullying didn't really stop at all.
Some people just enjoy to fight and love being angry/intimidating, and I haven't seen anyone talk about that. The only time I managed to make someone stop messing with me was by threatening to break their arm and fingers.
Luckily he stopped, I still feel like something in me would have went south if I happened to twist it a little bit further.
My father was proud, he even pushed me to escalate things by using blunt objects. My mother didn't see any physical damage on me, so she wasn't too worried. Only my grandfather noticed how angry I was all the time, even if I didn't express such anger at home, he knew.
Even after defending myself and winning almost every fight, I constantly felt like shit. Being angry and always alert for years. It was stressful, and later on it made me insecure about trusting others. It took me a decade to identify my trauma of not trusting others, not to mention the violent flashbacks of hurting people over silly matters and feeling miserable about it.
Even as an adult, it still takes me about 2-3 months to get used to a group being nice to me without feeling like they are just pretending.
The last time I fought I was unprovoked.
I was constantly angry due to almost daily fights, and one of the bullies tried to make amends and be friends. I replied by beating him up. It felt so insulting having him to choose whether we are in good terms or not, specially when I was so peaceful when they decided to pick on me. I felt so bad about it, and decided to end that loop.
In the end, the only thing that made me avoid problems was to try my best to fit in, even with people I despised. Eventually I didn't stand out enough to be picked on, and they went on to bully someone else.
The peaceful days lasted about a month until graduation finally came, and even after that those guys still acted like they could intimidate and fight people over anything.
Eventually I moved and started living a more quiet life.
Some people are not worth fighting. It's no use trying to beat an idiot for being uncivilized, some people won't change no matter what, and some will even find it rewarding to have someone they can fight. They don't care about getting hurt nor being prone to major harm, they are enjoying it.
Do try to defend yourself, but if you find out it is taking too long to fix the problem, don't be shy to move to a better circle if you can.
It's not worth it to alter your personality over unreasonable people. You are in school to study, to educate yourself, and to become a good asset to society.
Good story but rip to that bully who tried to make amends and got beat up lmao
I find your story relatable, i was in the very similar situation and even now i try to avoid coffee and sugar to keep my blood pressure low because i get angry easily, thankfully i am no longer a physical person, even in boxing light sparring i try to give the most gentle punches always being careful.
who would be angry after winning every single fight?
I wanna say for anyone who’s going through this to get good with yours words first. If you can humiliate them, it can save you a lot of unnecessary fighting. But if you do fight, don’t do it halfway. That was what my middle school experience taught me. I wish I could go back in time and teach my younger self these things.
Humiliate them? No man that starts fights
@@applepie1911e only if they have the nuts to do that. Most people don’t
I was almost constantly bullied in school.
It was one of my best decisions to sign up for Wing-Tsun courses. After some basic training, I was able to defend myself, despite being usually weaker than my opponents.
I stopped Wing-Tsun almost a decade ago, but still remember some moves. I was attacked on the street twice in 2021. With some luck & determination, I managed to repel said attacks.
Be strong, kings.
Be strong and keep your head up, relentlessly adapt, face life until the end of your days.
Amen
Easier said than done Mr Strong guy.
@@Ropewatch "Captain Platitude"
@@Ropewatch but you must do it, only you can do this, even if only very little... it's still better than whining and giving up.
@@Ropewatch well you will never know until you try
I feel this is really important. We all have to go through this as men at some point, some of us are lucky enough to have the talk, some of us have to come to the conclusion ourselves on our own.
6:05
When men marry beta or “cute” women and have sons
My story went for the mom ending. I escaped from my fears for 4 years, I didn't even went to school 'cause I was afraid of bullies. I totally left social life, closing myself in my room and playing videogames with my friends.
Only now I realised I made bad choices. My dad didn't teach me to defend myself. "just ignore them" he used to say. But I couldn't. Every insult, or joke (innocent sometimes) were HEAVY in my head but I didn't have the strength to react. Just standing angry and silent in a corner, letting people to judge everything.
If you let weakness win, it will take over you and you'll cannot react. You will be a ghost, a pathetic person who cannot stand up even for his own life but just letting life happen. THAT'S THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU COULD DO FOR YOURSELF.
I still having LOTS of self-esteem issues, but at least I'm TRYING to change. I want to be better every month.
When you're feeling depressed, like a nobody, it's because IT'S TRUE. Is your own instinct who's saying: "dude, you're doing everything wrong".
You're not the good version of you. When you feel bad about yourself means that you must change.
I'm not saying to become a rich and cool sigma male, that's business world propaganda, but just DO SOMETHING AND FIGHT YOUR WEAKNESS FOR YOUR OWN LIFE. Or you will be stuck for ever.
Ok
That's the same thing for me, any negativity from a person brings me down heavily, even just my own thoughts, anything makes me overthink everything. I have no idea how I will be able to get myself out of this pit but I am planning to have therapies and hit the gym as well as try to socialize more
I am not gonna lie but this guy really knows how to make a story and make it feel really realistic. This is honestly pretty impressive.
Is this a meme or something? People keep posting this exact comment.
It's either a meme or self-promotion. It's been an odd and trending comment since the beginning.
@@HereForTheComments idk it just sounds good
@@HereForTheComments He has many other accounts and he's leaving positive comments just like any other you tuber😂
No lie detected
I got picked on pretty viciously in middle school.... right up until the day one of them pushed me a little too far and then started laughing in my face. I snapped, grabbed him by the head, and slammed it into his desk.
It didn't make me any friends, but I didn't get picked on any more after that. I did get in trouble with a teacher, but they were as ineffective at punishing me as they were with everyone else, so I got away with just having to write a letter about how sorry I was. (Not at all, of course, but I lied.)
People respect force, but you have to remember school authorities are people too, and they can play favorites just as much as the students do. And if the students hate you, the teachers probably do too. If you HAVE to use force, try to make it quick and relatively subdued so they don't have much ammo to use against you.
And ideally you made a report beforehand. - Always be the first to report, then they have much less to hit you with.
4:40 "Sometimes the author mixes up the clues to hide a completly different meaning". I dont think people really get the message of the story. The dad of the weak girly looking boy from 4:35 is actually the kid from the first story who grew up to be "just like his dad". The point that everyone s missing is that the guy who actually started the fight was the "bullied" kid who was actually picking on the "bully" who later punched him. After he lost he just played the victim. I think the meaning of the video is the consequences of a lie, because the kid lied to his dad from the beginning saying "he got picked on" instead of "I was messing with the guy first". That's why when he grows up he points out that the message is simple but it has double meaning because he s the only one who knows the true story.
"Perceptive Audience" just see the "NOSE" and you will see ... the little boy is now the father of that girly boy ... also 4:45 LEARN THE CODE , read the description ;) fill the 12345 and then say WOW ... now you know what number means what in a set episode ...
4:48 was like walter white and gus fring
At first you always think "wow, almost 7 mins", and after finishing the video you'll be thinking "woah, that felt like seconds".
This is such a great storytelling, you forget about everything and begin enjoying it before you even notice.
Yeah because his content is interesting
Holy shit-
@@ThePosseEGS may i ask why you said that?
@@yustikasari6679 I read the main comment just as the video ended and it felt like I just clicked on
Oh, i was thinking you don't finish your sentence
Got taught to stand up for myself at an early age. Paid the price for it similairly, plenty of times sent to the principles office, almost forced to take anger management courses. I think that theres a fine line between watching out for yourself and just fighting for some made up cause. Sure, we shouldnt say "violence good", but we need to understand that sometimes we gotta look out for ourselves, and not expect mom to call the school and fix everything. As the dad said, the bullying isnt going to stop. It never will. Its part of being human. I dont have a perfect answer sadly, but I think that being able to defend yourself if necessary as a good skill to have at any point
we souldnt say: violence is good. However, we should remember that violence is a solution, like everything else.
Violence is necessary in this cruel world
Don't fight for any other reason than to defend yourself physically. Fighting over a girl or because your ego got hurt is dumb. Rather be indifferent to insults and others opinion of you and that should sort it all out.
@@BD90.. I'm not talking only about raw violence. I also ment political, social and phycological. Violence- is a tool, like many other. Use it when it is most beneficial option for you (person or collective) and don't use when it isn't. When your opponent have money and media, but you have homies and guns, you gonna feel your shortcut to victory)
Just a ginocentric society can make people think that just ignoring or calling the school director will change something, in what a weak world we have being raised, however I got bullied and I didn't fight back, I was afraid and alone against a lot of them, and I was already depressed before,imagine after that ,however this is another proof why you should fight back with words of if necessary with fists, the memories of that time sometimes still haunts me, 12 years have passed ,you will lose all your self respect , you will be ashamed of yourself and your overall self -esteem will be damaged ,especially because those years when you go to school are so crucial for your development, I was weak and I paid and trust me ,not being able to respect yourself and feeling evirated as a man , I think is the most painful feeling a man can sense, so do not listen to the bullshit ,fight back.
I was picked on for being a special needs kid, and this is ALMOST a 1:1 of my past. My only regret was i failed to defend myself; they came at me verbally or from behind, hence i keep remembering. It sucks
what r u doing now man
@@milionsmustsub Am well and I finished college
@robo peter I'm thankful I left that school. Went to college and finished it. I'm doing well now
@@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645 W you man
3:00 bro just did an andrew tate 😂
0:20 amazing street fighter reference. cant wait for 6 to drop soon 😂💯
Yea me too I’m soo hyped 🔥🔥
Father is totally right
Kids tend to be very cruel and mothers intevention wouldn't change much
I was one of the shortest kids but my father told me if someone picks on me I should just fight them
Got my karate classes for 4 years and even though it isn't the deadliest martial art, I was still winning most of my fights so I never really experienced bullying
And additionally I was able to defend my friends and my brother from other kids.
As you grow older your temper goes away but you know how to stand up for yourself
I relate to this video, 3rd year of my highschool i had enough and got into a fight with one of my bullies, at that moment it became apparent how people who try to act big are just insecure about their own strength because he didn't even try to fight back.
Suspended, had to do the fake hand shaking thing but ultimately after that i achieved character growth i never would have in me had i not done it, alot of people never physically put an end to it and just get pushed around more and more because they just dont deal with the issue.
The most wise thing you can do is know that you do HAVE that capacity to hurt if you yourself feel it is needed, but what is wrong is to use it when it isn't justifiable.
Hope you enjoyed reading this random comment, have a swell one mates !
hey thanks you too
I wasn’t bullied terribly in school, in fact I was a bit of a bully myself from time to time, but I never really felt confident or good. One day, long after graduation, I was just sedentary on the couch like normal when my mom dropped a gym membership in my lap.
Only after I started working out and actively making physical progress did I have a genuine feeling of self worth. I haven’t done great things yet, but I’m working toward those things. I’ve made so much progress toward bettering myself, only because a long time ago, someone said ‘Go sweat for a while.’
You can do push ups anywhere, there is potential everywhere.
Maybe it's cause he's not wearing a hoodie, but is the son getting newbie gains since working out with pa?
I got beat up by bullies so hard in scool that i hade a phase in my life where i where i actually liked mayonaise.
bro what
are you good now?
hope you good now fam, mayonaise is no joke
Must've given you temporary brain damage or something
@@memezis6006 Yea i recovered.
"Go cook dinner or something" Superisinly got me laughing.
Didn't see anyone talking about this but..
the description in 4:41 says
"I saw that 3 people partly deciphered my code. If you manage to guess it in its entirety I leave the knowledge or share it with the rest of the..."
so there might be a code in the video, which matches with what the dad was saying, and the channel name (LEARN THE CODE)
Edit: I've come to realization that the "code" is supposedly the meaning behind the 4 part series (there's most likely a 5th video in the making), so I'm gonna write down an analysis of what I've understood so far.
PART 1: The video portrays the difference between traditional men and modern men through the story of a father and son with a good relationship. There are two moments worth highlighting, the first being when the father talks about how his wife got rid of the grandpa's images, which is foreshadowing to part 4 and hinting that the grandpa is disliked, the second moment is when he questions his son's on what he's drinking presuming that the reason his son isn't as masculine is because of what he's been consuming, which possibly hints to the stereotype of a "soyboy" who's weak because he drinks soy products, but then shuts it down since all Ivo was drinking was water.
PART 2: The video continues the story, this time it shows how un-masculine Ivo is, and that his father is worried by it, but nonetheless, the father still respects his son and doesn't try to force him to do anything, instead he tries to have some father time with his son by playing catch, going to a shooting range and fixing the shed, which could instill some masculine values in him. On the other side, it shows Ivo's respect for his father, his self-reliance and his willingness to learn and improve by showing how he doesn't shutdown any of his father's idea and goes along with them incase there's something worth learning. Two things are worth noting, the first being the father's commentary of the modern word of consumerism and how everyone is only in it for the buck, and the second being the scene where the father closes Ivo's bedroom door where he seems indifferent.
PART 3: This video continues the commentary on masculinity with its story, where the father and son are going on a camping trip. The father tries to be protective by lying to the mother to not worry her, and booking a cottage instead of using tents while underestimating his son. Ivo is shown to be prepared with his downloaded wilderness videos, and his care for his father when not wanting to chop the wood and giving his dad his jacket to cover during the night, it also shows that Ivo is mentally strong and that possibly growing up with unrestricted internet access has lead him to grow desensitized to what some could consider gruesome or inappropriate, at home the mother points out how Ivo is actually trying his best and to give him some time. Like the last part, the video ends with the father closing the door of Ivo's bedroom, but this time he seems happy and hopeful.
PART 4: This part is different, it shows the past of the father as some annoying kid, which lead him to getting beaten, and it showed how his parents reacted differently. The mother wanted to call the school and be overly protective, while the father wanted to be aggressive and teach his son how to defend himself but took it a little too far, both parents never considered what the son wanted to do and were pushy. This lead to the suspension of the son, but gave Ivo the lesson that no matter how bad you think you are, you can Improve and get better with time.
CONCLUSION: I think the main point of this series is showing the importance of good parenting, today's age sadly lacks it, and many young individuals are left confused or scared on what they want to do. There are many lessons to learn from this series. Firstly being that we should always try, no matter the circumstance, with enough courage anything can get better. Secondly, is the importance of good parenting, whether you have a good parental figure or not will play a role in how you end up later in life, some manage to overcome hardship and reach a better life without father figures, but that's sadly the exception and not the rule, so we should respect our parents knowing that they are trying their best, and in the future, be great understanding parents aswell. Thirdly, being less reliant on consumerism, sometimes its better to just cut the grass yourself rather than call a gardener, some people are in it for the buck and will put in minimum effort even with good pay, so it's important to just do the work if you are able to, instead of paying someone else to do it.
Who read all this not like me? 😅
In my house, it's my mother who usually says I shouldn't be afraid of fights and should stand my ground. And I am sweet and diplomatic talker like my father.
Same
"In moonlight reborn was I
My will roaring
My seed burning
To bring forth life in death's disguise
By birthright inherited I
My father's wisdom
My mother's cunning
And the providence of the midnight sky"
- from the song "Hallowed Bloodline" by Aethyrick
I think that standing up for myself was the best fucking thing I ever did in school. I was always one of the smallest kids, but I would never run away or roll over when push came to shove. It taught me to be who I am today and stand my ground. Then classes taught me what my limits were and how to actually use my body, gave me confidence. I don't go out looking for fights, but at least I can pick my battles right.
What the father says is absolutely correct. If you give people an inch especially when it comes to bullying, it never stops and leads to worse outcomes. When you show you are strong it gets you into trouble because you become stronger than the threat against you. In todays world where bullys, criminals, and any other provocateurs get more protection, you have to teach your child to defend themselves. No one else will do it for them. Todays sentiment even without facing physical altercations is to project weakness as a means to avoid conflict, that is not how the world works though.
I really took some time to realize that the father was telling his past to the son,man I just love the way you build and care about the details.
TBH i just noticed it after ur comment. i was thinking they are 2 different families. didnt realize the first round kid is teh grown up dad in next video
@@Roxana_Official isn't that awesome, so many ways to interpret the story telling... Millennia thinker is the goat
@@lucktalgatti6647 i think hes using Ai anyway. to write the story and everything. sounds and animes are AI. but i suspect story is also AI 90%
@@Roxana_Official well,I've been watching MT for 3 year,also,before the AI blow ups on everything,I really like to believe that the writing is being made by human hands,besides after all,it doesn't matter,cuz even using ai,is a human with an idea of psychology impact at real life.
@@lucktalgatti6647 AI been around for more than 4 years. but now its free
I love your videos they are teaching us valuable lessons and are overall entertaining to watch!
Agree, i think all of his video is good and meaningful
That Brown Noise effect really adds to it
I actually can relate to ivo, i don't look like a girl but My father talking to me about our family, as a child i liked a Lot Sports because i feel it was like My duty for the family, im from a family of boxers and baseball players, My grandpa was famous in My State and he also Made it to the pro lvl in the 50s if i quit remember, My dad just amateur in the 80s, so since a kid i learn how to fight and play baseball because also My grandpa played a Lot and he was really god at it, when i was in middle school i was pick up by bullies, My dad told me "just fight if it's necesary, u know how to fight, and maybe they don't know so keep it cool" i'm like a peace person i don't like to fight but i sure know how to do it, but anyway, having this type of knowledge actually helps, thanks to baseball i have a schoolarship and thanks to boxing nobody bothers me, thanks pa and thanks papa g
Dont listen to moms about fighting in school. I had my only fight in middle school cause a guy walked up and slapped me. I got suspended for fighting back but my dad was so proud he went and got me ice cream.
I stood against the bully and he totally kicked My ass, but after witnessing me standing against him the other kids treated me with respect and the bullying stopped
One of my elementary schools was actually pretty cool. I was in 8th grade and an A student, quiet with sometimes outbursts of rapping or singing, but those were kept to a minimum. The faculty all saw that I was a good kid and never acted out in class. So some kids did mess with me for that. The faculty always punished the bullies though.
I remember we were sat at the reading carpet. We had a few benches, but we couldn't fit anyone else so some brought chairs. This one kid sat behind me. He and his friends kept grabbing people's sides as a joke. When it got to me. I ignored the first few. Then he kept on, so I told him to stop. He kept going, I sat 'Stop' louder. The teacher looked at them and told them to knock it off. That didn't deter them. They kept going until I ended up giving him a Spear from WWE. We bumped into a few desks on the way to the ground. He ended up on top of me but I had him in an armbar. The teacher told us to stop, sat us back down and sat me away from him. No muss no fuss, the rest of class was as productive as it could be.
The school allowed me to defend myself because they knew the type of student I was. They knew that most of them were going through hard times and acting out as a way to cope, but they still needed a little bit of order.
Very good school and very good act of yours
You're both lucky and unlucky
I was bullied in high school too and fought back and lost more times than I won. However, fighting is not always the answer. And I say that because I fought one time in the gym locker room against 3 other people and almost had my head smahed against one of the ceramic urinals. During the fight, I had a realization where it was like "I don't care about winning, I just need to make sure I survive this."
Everyone's situation is different but, you can still remain tough and not fight.
I love when Jordan Peterson talks about being a monster but learning how to control it. Same idea as you would rather be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in war.
I learned anatomy and nerve holds in the library. It wasn't long before only the most brain dead would fight me. 😂
Sadly I never could figure out the Vulcan nerve pinch, but what I created strengthening my hands worked almost as well. 😂😊
For some reason this looks exactly like all of the scenarios when I was bullied, except I never started
I love the wholesome buffed dad character.
for me a lesson here is to just stand up to yourself dont let others stand up for you in the end we only have ourselves
Same sort of thing happened for me years ago. My folks complained to the school and got nowhere with them, so I finally snapped one day. Despite the black eye he got though, he came back the next day for another go, ran off crying and, when we got hauled in front of the head for it, got told that he got what he deserved by the teacher himself. Ha!
I hate how discouraged self defence and fighting is
Maleness is what's being discouraged. It's truly a feminist conspiracy 😢
The Father is right all the way. You have to fight so they let you alone. Speaking from experience. Got surrounded by 4,5 guys who were much older than me. The backstory: They did spit at me and bully me of course. I learned Boxing too and when they surrounded me, I defended myself. Only one of them actually did fight me and after that all of them never bothered me again. Never. I even heard one of them say: ''this kid is weak but hes got balls''. They do only respect you when you actually do something against it. Which is very sad actually.
It is true that a man needs to learn some fighting skills and make it part of his system. If you don’t practise some basic skills you’ll be not trained to fight back when it is needed.
Ultimately this storyis about learning to stand up for yourselves.
Its hard, but necessary in life.
Those videos have nightmare vibes while showing stuff that happen to all of us at least once
I wish I had a father in those developmental years.
Great father, unfortunately no everyone has such one
I do believe, based on experience that if you don't even try to hit and defend yourself, you will be bullied for the rest of your school days. Even if you end up beated , the bullies will think once or twice before messing around with you again. I do believe that being able to defend yourself and hit hard during those days, could save yourself from a trauma that could carry on into your adulthood, making things way harded than they should be in the first place.
My parents told me to not fight back, that I'm wrong if I fought back. They didn't want trouble, so everytime I got in a fight, it's automatically my fault and got punished for it. That makes my an easy target since they can always lash out on me and I'm not expected to fight back while at the end of the day, I still get caned by my parents.
I was bullied my entire childhood for almost everyday of my life.
I relate a lot to your story, I’m currently working on unlearning the self-hating pushover BS my parents drilled into my brain. Still got a long way to go but I will overcome the weak self-hating pushover mindset and I will definitely make sure I don’t pass it on to my kids.
Oh my god this is terrible
That Street fighter II intro reference was gold
4:55 yoooo this animes plot twists getting gewd!
That's a good father, and the mother is a good mother aswell.
They both has their own ways of seeing things, and both are good ways. In our current society, you'll have to fight to **Survive**.
Altough sometimes, for thoses who cannot take on stuff, nor fight and that might fall in a deep depression, (was my case 5 years ago and the social fear is still pursuing me) the mom's way is a good way. They basically has both differents ways, but both are right.
yeah, i made the mistake of listening to my mom when i was young, because my dad was not really interested in parenting. And obviously it was a mistake, now as an adult, the mental scars of being bullied will never leave me. years of working out and learning kickbox in early adulthood didn't help, it's too late to fix the trauma, i will forever feel weak, and question if i can defend myself or the people around me when the time comes.
I get that. It wasnt your fault tho and im sure if it happened for ur loved ones u would defend urself
This is the constant clash of old parenting versus new. New parenting teaches you to just do what you are told and to not think about anything. Old teaches you that there's always something that you can do. It's amazing how quickly this changed.
Old teaching comes after the issue hits you, new teaching is trying to prepare you for imaginary situations that might never happen...
Old teaching is obey authority figures (including parents) and be a good god-fearing peasant. Children should be seen, not heard.
New parenting is all just women trying to reinvent relationships.
Old ways are "toxic" now.
Best to just opt out of society and be ready to surrender to the Chinese. Do it with a shrug, not a grovel.
This isn't your country anymore. These aren't you women anymore. Our culture is gone.
What is this bullshit ?
The "do what are you told and don't think about anything" and the "there is always a way" depend of the teaching from parents, not from "old"/"new" teaching.
@@npc7213 Bro this is just women and men. Women have more power in the home now, so it's changed.
Thanks Millenni Thinker, your videos are very good, I'm from Brazil, thanks for having subtitles in Portuguese
about the school system: no matter what, you will end up being penalized anyway. i remember so many times ending up in the principals office and getting the same thing the guilty party was getting for no reason. remember that the other side will always lie. the teachers will just give everybody the same thing just for not being "able" to sort the truth out.
one time i was even kicked out of class for 3months for having written on the back of a federal exam, about how that said exam sucked and it was poorly thought out. that teacher hated me and complained about how i was insulting her or something to the principal. despite that exam being a federal one and that it wasnt supposed to end up in her hand anyway. at the end they literally kicked me out of HS because i had missed too many classes (no joke). when i was going back to pick up my things the secretary was running after me to sign a form. it was written on it "voluntary departure"- they had set me up. i refused to sign it and she ended up yelling about how she was going to forge my signature anyway.
i am so glad everybody has cameras and recorders now in their pockets. people dont realize how much easier they have it now.
0:21 street fighter 2 opening scene
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Master Yoda
a punch in the face goes a long way in keeping bullies away
I'm particularly loving this series and I really hope to see many more installments of it come out in the future. Please make that happen for me. 🙂
Видео очень актуальное. Мне в начальных и средних классах приходилось не сладко. Мне всё время били и прикалывались сначало без особых причин, позже из за лишнего веса. Я рос в семье без отца. Мать и бабушка всё время говорили терпеть, быть выше них и жаловаться учителю. Однажды даже руку сломали, но школа ограничелась предупреждением. Приходилось самому учиться постоять за себя, драться, хоть и не всегда успешно, но к 8 классу я смог вырвать право прибывания в школе без травли и пиздюлей. С этого момента можно было начинать перемены и в себе...
Starting to love this father-son duo ❤
You took story from my life. Instead of boxing i learn karate but similar thing. Never let others push you around.
6:21 he is a femboy😢😢😢
..and a boxer at the same time. 👊😼
Hopefully he will kick someone's ass
He just look like one
Why does that matter?
@@levthemapperxd They are idiots don't care about them
Best video yet, a similar thing happened to me except my dad didn't teach me i just fought him and delivered good punches which made him know not to fight me and it worked for everyone else too
same here.
We're actually lucky to taking action by ourselves and undertading that we must fight back in order to stop bullying.
@@joaogabriels.f.5143 fr thanks to the internet i know all about it, if not for it i wouldn't have fought back ngl
I mean there's a very easy efficient solution to bullying but people are against it for some reason.
Probably they think violence is not the answer
what's the solution?
@@wepsar fight back
Unfortunately, my bully was one of my teachers because I was much smarter than him and would call him out when he was wrong about stuff. He would try to push thinly-veiled Christian creationism nonsense into his science class. He would also grade me much harsher than the other students and I couldn't do anything about it. Well, one time he tried to embarrass me in front of the entire class the one time I forgot a homework assignment. He said something to the effect that how could my parents raise someone so irresponsible making it sound like it was a common occurrence. It's like he was trying to get back at a kid who knew far more about the subject than he did and would push back against his wild and radical beliefs in public school.
I finally snapped and saw red. I stood up and socked him right in the side of the head. I was suspended before the other students ended up siding with me saying that he was always on my case far more than anyone else's. He was later fired for trying to preach theocratic nonsense that wasn't part of the curriculum. Separation of church and state and all that. It was poetic justice.
For me it was the phony American history 😂
I was short heighted and got bullied lot of times but then I also fought back most of the times , never stay silent, create terror in the minds of bullies
My father taught me to always stand up for my self either through argument or physicality. Firstbweek of high school i bust the class bullys nose i was a small 13 year old he was almost 14 and one of those guys who physically was already a man 5.10 and stubbile. We ended up best of friends for the next 5 years
I wish I encountered physical bullying growing up. But I was always big and strong compared to other kids so I only ever received verbal bullying which is much harder to identify and combat that just physically fighting back.
"At least try..."
Fck that's powerful
Dealing with bullying throughout elementary and middle school. Finally took some lessons on self defense in highschool and fucked up a guy who tried to assault me in the locker room. Got suspended from school for 2 weeks but got taken out of the class with said guy and left him in the hospital for a week. Definitely changed my perspective on the matter, especially now that I've had nephews deal with bullying themselves, having the school intervene does fuck all.
Yes, but still you should send a report first, so they can't hit you with accusations.
suspension means nothing
Your animation looks great, the punching animations look super fluid.