As a watch collector for almost 30 yrs, it still surprises me Cartier is so big right now. Once it was a brand that gets dismissed by collector as a "jewellery" brand and a company that destroyed its own watches (last reported around 2019), is now a company people have to make reservation to buy something. Good move with them buying Watchfinder and destroy watches in the 2nd hand market to reduce supply and at the same time hype up the marketing with "well known" watch collectors/dealers + social media.
Cartier imo really had the best showing with these wide range of watches. Was really hoping they would introduce a small Santos for smaller wrist, since they have M & L but no S. Maybe to next year
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
I love the way you thought about the Santos Rewind - the detail that if the very idea of timekeeping originated and got popular from somewhere in the SOuthern Hemisphere (not just as an alternate reality but as an homage to Alberto Santos-Dumont) can inform the direction of the watch is completely insane.
Also, it's tough that the time-only Vacheron green dial had to come with diamond-sets. Other women in my T&F session with VC complained that they wanted it without the diamonds just for a sportier, casual option at that size and with a cleaner dial than the other variations.
The best timekeeping channel! I used to follow someone on YT until he started dressing in turtleneck and acting so robotic. I like your down casual aprroach!
I feel like it should’ve been an update to the Black Bay pro with the addition of a white dial. That’s the only black bay model I will buy because I don’t like how big the current Explorer 2 is.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I love the Cartier Panthere in Rose Gold. (Your image looks more rose than yellow gold on my screen.) It's so visually soft, stunning and luxurious in the metal. Cartier however have been mean....it's a Quartz movement (well fair enough it's jewellery) but they have done away with both the seconds hand which gave the dial kinetic life and also the date window. Really!? for 25K plus. They have also changed the concealed clasp of the bracelet. On my earlier model the links are entirely seamless. (It might be an issue for some to learn how to open the clasp...but it really is not difficult!) The medium/ large rose gold Cartier Panthere just oozes style.
Bought a Bremont Descent 2 - Diver GMT for the exact reasons you gave. Looked at and tried on the hydroconquest gmt - bezel action was awful and found the flat case back fit poorly on my wrist. Btw I enjoy your content. Thx.
Longines Hydroconquest GMT is so good with its function set. An alternative would be the Seiko SPB381J1 (or 383 for Derek and others liking more versatile colors). I'm torn on which one to get. A direct answer from Tudor would be great.
ALSO also regarding Swatch Group at the show - you bet that we wouldn't have heard about the Longines Conquest Heritage Central Power Reserve until March if they were a part of the fair. So many of their brands deserve to cut loose and do their best at the fair - Breguet NEEDS to do it, Jaquet Droz deserves a spot next to Van Cleef as a high-jewellery/automata giant (Harry WInston too I guess). An then there's Omega, Glashutte Original (next to Lange) etc. It woudl've been a fuller fair with these guys involved. And let's not talk about the Citizen and Breitling Groups (which I then feel like Seiko-Epson should be involved in a smaller capacity...)
Hey Derek...what is the rubber strap you have on your 925? I have the brown rubber b but I'm a bit tired of the look. Thanks for another fantastic episode!
I have pretty much the exact same wrist size and shape as you. Do you think the 58 GMT would be a viable daily wear at that size? Or is the BB36 more sensible?
I have been a Cartier collector for over 20 years and their AD’s have been respectful. However, their treatment of you was very disappointing, regardless of what the metrics. Their marketing leadership need an infusion of class. Seeing you with all those great watch people reminds me that birds of a feather’s flock together. Great content as always:) By the way, were you or Ken the older twin?
Cartier is such a great brand, but also extremely frustrating for the enthusiast collector who isn't a billionaire. They make super cool limited edtions you can't actually get, and then they put a quartz movement in a key watch like the Santos-Dumont size large. Nice that they make backward time telling hype pieces for the media, but they could do a lot better job selling actual watches in the $10-20k range.
You'd be surprised how quickly your brain picks something up and adapts to it. When I was a teenager I had a cheap digital watch with a Mickey mouse hands. It ran backwards. It was less than a day that I was able to just tell time matter of factly and wasted. No time after that knowing what time it was. It won't be a problem if you buy it.
From the sidelines, i say that Tudor developed a watch following from the Rolex 16710 GMT II that was somewhat happy to see the coke colors on a watch but definitely disappointed to not see the GMT remade from Rolex. Had it been a GMT with coke colors from Rolex, the brand would have stroke GOLD. You are going to get a following of buyers who will want it. However, as an owner of Rolex 16710 coke dial, honestly the tudor is not even close or charming as the real deal coke. For sure the coke dial GMT will now increase in value, I thank Tudor for that.
*no to dive bezel on a GMT. If someone wants a dive bezel get a diver. I'm a GMT power user so I need to be able to track 3 timezones with the bezel. A GMT watch without a rotating 24 hour bezel is useless and lost. No one needs a GMT function underwater. Much less do we need the max depth ratings for a diver in the office.*
I agree to no diver bezel on the GMT. Tudor is basically Rolex homage brand for the mssses. People buy Tudor GMT to scratch the itch for the GMT Master2.
Can’t justify the BB58 GMT, because it looks too much like my 54. Have the Pelagos 39, too, because it’s drastically different than a black bay. Tudor has become a tad stale. One trick pony. If I get another luxury watch, it won’t be a Tudor.
I am not an expert but for the sake of me how on earth can you talk about a Tudor Coke as a different watch to a Rolex.Even the Black Bay looks like a Rolex.Tudor will never get away from being a poor mans Rolex as long it continues to look like one.
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
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You and Teddy are my favourite content creators for watches, hands down. Keep up the good work! I loved the shorts you shared during your trip to W&W!
Damn, I hope I look as good as 71 as your dad.
I enjoyed the social conversations more than the watch reviews. More pls.
The Cartier santos is stunning
The Cartier Tortue Monopoussoir is absolutely gorgeous. I love that watch
After this video, I hope Cartier calls you for a meeting! Watching your videos helped me to decide on a Cartier santos medium.
As a watch collector for almost 30 yrs, it still surprises me Cartier is so big right now. Once it was a brand that gets dismissed by collector as a "jewellery" brand and a company that destroyed its own watches (last reported around 2019), is now a company people have to make reservation to buy something. Good move with them buying Watchfinder and destroy watches in the 2nd hand market to reduce supply and at the same time hype up the marketing with "well known" watch collectors/dealers + social media.
they paid the right Social Media influencers.
Cartier imo really had the best showing with these wide range of watches. Was really hoping they would introduce a small Santos for smaller wrist, since they have M & L but no S. Maybe to next year
I was just at the AD and the rose gold large santos blue me away. Like that was awesome!
Of course as you know my favorite release was the Zenith Defy in Orange and Black
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
I love the way you thought about the Santos Rewind - the detail that if the very idea of timekeeping originated and got popular from somewhere in the SOuthern Hemisphere (not just as an alternate reality but as an homage to Alberto Santos-Dumont) can inform the direction of the watch is completely insane.
Also, it's tough that the time-only Vacheron green dial had to come with diamond-sets. Other women in my T&F session with VC complained that they wanted it without the diamonds just for a sportier, casual option at that size and with a cleaner dial than the other variations.
The GS slgw002 and 003 are just stunning…
Cartier all the way! I got my first Cartier watch about 36 years ago and it’s still as beautiful today 🩶🧡
The best timekeeping channel! I used to follow someone on YT until he started dressing in turtleneck and acting so robotic. I like your down casual aprroach!
Tudor feels lazy, they are milking black bay for years, it’s time for them to come up with news designs.
I feel like it should’ve been an update to the Black Bay pro with the addition of a white dial. That’s the only black bay model I will buy because I don’t like how big the current Explorer 2 is.
Is Tudor lazy? It has released New model, design..
Agreed!!
Love Black Bay, Tudor Prince Chronograph of yore
Love the gold blackbay with green dial tho. 💵💵💵
5:26 I’m with you on the dive bezel in a GMT. I’m REALLY hoping they do a Seamaster 300m GMT with the same format as the Hydroconquest.
I really love the gilt. Add so much more class I think
Cartier are absolutely cooking. Such a class watch brand.
For Tudor, I think the love for the new GMT is not greater or equal than the last year favorite BlackBay 54
One of your best videos yet!
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
Your father looks minimum 20 years younger than what he actually is!
This is video is cool. Just subscribed.
I love the Cartier Panthere in Rose Gold. (Your image looks more rose than yellow gold on my screen.) It's so visually soft, stunning and luxurious in the metal. Cartier however have been mean....it's a Quartz movement (well fair enough it's jewellery) but they have done away with both the seconds hand which gave the dial kinetic life and also the date window. Really!? for 25K plus. They have also changed the concealed clasp of the bracelet. On my earlier model the links are entirely seamless. (It might be an issue for some to learn how to open the clasp...but it really is not difficult!)
The medium/ large rose gold Cartier Panthere just oozes style.
Bought a Bremont Descent 2 - Diver GMT for the exact reasons you gave. Looked at and tried on the hydroconquest gmt - bezel action was awful and found the flat case back fit poorly on my wrist.
Btw I enjoy your content. Thx.
The glaze for Teddy is craaazyyy
A good idea for a GMTxDive bezel would be to have the 60 minute bezel as the main one and maybe a second crown for a 24 hour inner bezel right?
Vacheron released THE most complicated watch ever. Not one of. But great video, first one of yours I've watched.
Tortue monopusher was the best looking one this year, hands down. But gold AND limited edition..... come on, Cartier.
Your shorts are the best!
Longines Hydroconquest GMT is so good with its function set. An alternative would be the Seiko SPB381J1 (or 383 for Derek and others liking more versatile colors). I'm torn on which one to get. A direct answer from Tudor would be great.
Is the Santos brown in steel a one shot, the gold only, or both? It wasn’t quite clear in the video.
Both the steel brown dial and gold with brown dial are one shots. Sorry if it wasn’t clear!
Great content thanks…👍
You’re the man Derek!
One of the best in the biz!
ALSO also regarding Swatch Group at the show - you bet that we wouldn't have heard about the Longines Conquest Heritage Central Power Reserve until March if they were a part of the fair. So many of their brands deserve to cut loose and do their best at the fair - Breguet NEEDS to do it, Jaquet Droz deserves a spot next to Van Cleef as a high-jewellery/automata giant (Harry WInston too I guess). An then there's Omega, Glashutte Original (next to Lange) etc. It woudl've been a fuller fair with these guys involved.
And let's not talk about the Citizen and Breitling Groups (which I then feel like Seiko-Epson should be involved in a smaller capacity...)
Hey Derek...what is the rubber strap you have on your 925? I have the brown rubber b but I'm a bit tired of the look. Thanks for another fantastic episode!
It’s a gray rubber strap from Vanguard for the Tudor Black Bay 58 series
@@MinuteMon cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
I totally agree with Teddy, best short game 👌🏽
With the Tudor GMT bezel you get to measure a 3rd timezone. I find it very useful. Replacing it with a dive bezel you would lose that function bruh
Beautiful epesode. Many thanks
Nizar
I have pretty much the exact same wrist size and shape as you. Do you think the 58 GMT would be a viable daily wear at that size? Or is the BB36 more sensible?
58 GMT would be great! I would do that over a BB36
@@MinuteMon thank you
What watch are you wearing in this video?
Excellent video, thank you
What Sugess and San Martin where not there?
I have been a Cartier collector for over 20 years and their AD’s have been respectful.
However, their treatment of you was very disappointing, regardless of what the metrics.
Their marketing leadership need an infusion of class.
Seeing you with all those great watch people reminds me that birds of a feather’s flock together.
Great content as always:)
By the way, were you or Ken the older twin?
Cartier is such a great brand, but also extremely frustrating for the enthusiast collector who isn't a billionaire. They make super cool limited edtions you can't actually get, and then they put a quartz movement in a key watch like the Santos-Dumont size large. Nice that they make backward time telling hype pieces for the media, but they could do a lot better job selling actual watches in the $10-20k range.
You'd be surprised how quickly your brain picks something up and adapts to it. When I was a teenager I had a cheap digital watch with a Mickey mouse hands. It ran backwards. It was less than a day that I was able to just tell time matter of factly and wasted. No time after that knowing what time it was. It won't be a problem if you buy it.
Does anyone know if any new Longines will come any time soon 👀
Longines is releasing their new 38mm conquest
amzwatch watch are the best, I say this from experience.
From the sidelines, i say that Tudor developed a watch following from the Rolex 16710 GMT II that was somewhat happy to see the coke colors on a watch but definitely disappointed to not see the GMT remade from Rolex. Had it been a GMT with coke colors from Rolex, the brand would have stroke GOLD. You are going to get a following of buyers who will want it. However, as an owner of Rolex 16710 coke dial, honestly the tudor is not even close or charming as the real deal coke. For sure the coke dial GMT will now increase in value, I thank Tudor for that.
Can you reserve the tortue monopusher for me? 😁
Your dad looks still young
I feel instead of ap, Lange deserves to be in the holy trinity
You should start selling tudor in your store now 👍
I definitely thought you were the delugs guy
😂
He’s way taller.
Everyone is boring next to Cartier 😮😍
What is the difference between short and long content?
Shorts = vertical video under 1 minute
Long form = horizontal video at least 1 minute
Well said regarding the gmt & diver ultimate traveller watch. Well said
No one was talking about Rolex at all, Tudor , A Lang, etc yes
Never understood the demand for Rolex
Except GS boutique only or limited editions galore
Nice video, but you lied. No way your father is 71. Hehe He looks so much, much younger. Cool. Your family has good genes.
Let me guess, you wore JLC to W&W ❤️
Heck yeah!
Tudor, bring back the North Flag!!
G. Seiko is underrated? Witch world do you live in? You won't find a better watch!
I'm from Brazil and I'd rather get a clockwise watch 😂🇧🇷
*no to dive bezel on a GMT. If someone wants a dive bezel get a diver. I'm a GMT power user so I need to be able to track 3 timezones with the bezel. A GMT watch without a rotating 24 hour bezel is useless and lost. No one needs a GMT function underwater. Much less do we need the max depth ratings for a diver in the office.*
I agree to no diver bezel on the GMT. Tudor is basically Rolex homage brand for the mssses. People buy Tudor GMT to scratch the itch for the GMT Master2.
Nico Leonard
Not much words about indépendant watchmakers
“The Tudor looks great” and on seconds later it looks big on your wrist!
Can’t justify the BB58 GMT, because it looks too much like my 54. Have the Pelagos 39, too, because it’s drastically different than a black bay. Tudor has become a tad stale. One trick pony. If I get another luxury watch, it won’t be a Tudor.
You know that backwards thing is BS right? Someone messed up early and rather than fix it, they came up with the hemisphere story.
Well I like to look at watches I could never buy one I just buy cheap digital watches I might spend $60 for one that I can read with big numbers
Who needs to keep track of 3 time zones on their watch?😅
Not me! 😂
Tudor are a one trick pony the snowflake hour hand is too big can’t get over it I have to admit though it’s a quality watch for the price
Cartier big brother’d you. You can tell they’re more concerned with clout.
Tudor homaged a Monta watch
Grand Seiko is not underrated, it is over rated especially with that garbage spring drive movement.
I am not an expert but for the sake of me how on earth can you talk about a Tudor Coke as a different watch to a Rolex.Even the Black Bay looks like a Rolex.Tudor will never get away from being a poor mans Rolex as long it continues to look like one.
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.