If we have another civil war, there won't be anything civil about it. They've been telling a generation of men they're subhuman trash for a decade, and they are going to ask these same men for mercy. Just like the movie civil war showed, I doubt mercy will be shown on any side, and I fully expect either mass exiles or mass purges to occur. Lefties cannot be reasoned with and the far right sees that and is acknowledging that reality. The central government is delegitimizing voting, which shows both sides that the only way to express is thru force. They are using the judiciary for political purposes which delegitimizes it. They are using the US Dollar as a weapon which had delegitimized it even to US allies such as India who is now trading in Yuan, Rupees and Ruble, not dollars. They're destroying every legacy system they have and acting like it's business as usual and acting like they're smart than everyone else. I have a Masters in Econ and I cannot believe the things they are doing. The US Government is smashing the windows in it's own house, slashing the tires on it's own car, ripping out the electrical wiring in it's own walls, and acting like it's normal. They haven't started pouring gasoline around the place yet, but I fully expect them to soon and then they'll start playing with matches. They're pushing diversity in major corporations qhich is destroying their productivity and marketing. Hollywood is pushing wokeness which is destroying the US propaganda machine. Other countries look at Hollywood like it's a joke as do American citizens. Evey system is breaking. US recruiting is at the lowest level it has ever been and falling.
The irony of it is that podcast is sponsored with " the plunge " which give me a lot of shame because I can not afford it and feel like I am not cool. ps : I am being ironic because I love Richroll podcast... But I am still a broken man :-)
All talk and little action, reactionary winners whining about lost losers. Pointing the finger is all the elites with resources do without attempting to lift a finger to actually help build lost souls. It's all so tiresome & predictable. This guy isn't much different.
@NuanceOverDogma I agree, he hightlights the issue and his solution is to just pull yourself up by your boot straps. Which was a phrase that was supposed to mean it's literally impossible to do. Instead boomers use it to describe what millennial are suppose to do when they're faced with literally an impossible situation which is why more and more of them, the smartest who can see the equation clearly, are self deleting. He means well, but he provides no long term solutions to an obviously systemic problem where there simply is not enough opportunity. They polled American males age 16 to 36 about their American dreams and the majority said their dream is to LEAVE AMERICA. When every media system is telling saying, All men are rapists, women need men like a fish needs a bicycle, women treat men worse than you'd treat a stray Dog, and the systems themselves are designed to disenfranchise and destroy men. Why would they stay? We're going to start seeing brain drain as the best and brightest men leave america, and this guy is too much of a mid-wit to see it.
@@hexadecimal5236 He benefits from the system & attacks all who question it. He is a fraud who pretends to be concerned about lower classes but in reality he is in the cult that loathes them.
This guy points out the exact reason I became a teacher as a male. People emasculate me all the time for it, and I'm going to be making pretty much no money after rent, bills, and food. But being there for kids without a dad and being a good male role model in their lives is worth all of that in my opinion.
Dude stop being emasculated and just quit. You’re wasting your life, you think those children’s fathers are good people? How about their mothers? You’re not anyone’s servant man, those kids will grow up to be morally conflicted people like anyone else. It’s not worth it.
The average male h8tes anything that will create a healthy stable life for himself and others. Males are self destructing and want to take as many males they can with them. They don't actually want "solutions". The average male is entitled and is perfectly fine with women doing the work that they don't want to do. The average male proves they aren't leaders. They don't deserve a wife and children, because they don't like either and refuse to provide anything for them. Looking to other males as examples is usually pointless. You are a better example than the average guy.
@@richardsteiner45 I wouldn’t say I’m wasting my life. I think even if I only end up making a minor positive impact in one kid’s life throughout my entire teaching career, all of the stress and poor monetary compensation would still be worth it in my opinion. We can agree to disagree, and maybe there are better ways to impact kids’ lives, but somebody has to be in my position, and I am content at night knowing that I am given the opportunity to make a real positive impact on the youth. Sorry for the long response, lol.
It's so rare to come across individuals as accomplished as Prof. G that are willing to talk about their flaws, share their failures and spread the wisdom in the hard lessons learned throughout their life and that they do it genuinely for the betterment of society. Typically their egos get in the way. I appreciate him and his message so much. I try to distill as much as I can to my benefit raising two young boys in this challenging environment.
My favorite part is his acknowledging the advantages he got that are now gone. He's not doing what most successful people try to convince themselves and others 'i did it all by myself' and telling the truth. He got cheap, accessible college. He got an affordable housing market, doors opened bc he's a white man. He gets massive tax breaks. And he's saying how we can fix it
This guy is just another red pill guy but delivering it in a boring way 😂 truth is, no one cares. If you're a loner incel, you will remain that way and probably unalive yourself.. And still no one will care. He's an out of touch boomer.
He points at men to get better but doesn't ever address women's expectations set by marketing which is ultra sky high and completely unrealistic. He's an out of touch rich privileged white man mixing some truth with wrong assumtions.
18 minute mark made me cry. I was 15 without a dad and just a alcoholic mom and step parent. this 27 year old man who was disabled and two young kids took me in and fed me, told me to finish school, and actually just cared. No hook, no angle, just love. thank you Eric Abron for being my hero and thank you Scott for saying that about a father figure who isnt your blood.
Who was it that propagandized their hate against michael jackson & the catholic church again? bc i don’t remember them putting their own dirt on the media. in fact i don’t remember anyone ever proving incidence of grape happened more in the catholic church than anywhere else. everybody already forgets jerry sandusky, but everyone remembers the catholic church. seems like an op. anti-catholic hate. if you want to bring people to your side you have to clean up your own house, you fools.
Guest: "Social media tells young people they're absolute failures for not owning luxury items" Ad break: "Consider buying a sauna" Satire is meaningless in our era. It's like living in Robocop.
@@NikkLiberos We love capitalism, don't we, folks? Truly an unflawed, unmarred system. Too bad Earth's collective human governance can do nothing to bridge the gap of their own making, very apparently. Good stuff.
@@tweex1can you please define "capitalism" for me? Is it static? Did Adam Smith invent it? Did it exist before him? Has it changed since Smith? If it has or hasn't, does that mean anything? Seriously. I'm confused.
I don't think I've listened to a more candid, stone cold truth filled conversation around this subject. This episode needs to be shown in schools or something.
Completely agree that this conversation is important. I'm really hoping that our collective societies can course correct in a more positive direction. I don't know how that might happen but spreading this information is a good start.
Go to a developing nation and people are hooking up like they did in the US 100 years ago. These conversations should focus more on the fact that people in the most technologically and economically advanced societies simply have less and less of a reason to have children. They are needed less and less for survival.
Like everyone of every generation, you deal with the circumstances presented to you at the time. Poker was easy 20 years ago. Same as now, 95% of long term players lost money, 5% made money.
That’s one of the few traits about him that are admirable - humility. That fact that he recognizes how much easier life was in the 70’s-90’s AS A BOOMER himself, is applause worthy. On the other hand, his solutions are waaaaay off and as ineffective as putting a bandaid on a gangrene. No thanks, Scott. We’d rather grab popcorn and let it all burn. We know the problem is way bigger than just “empowering men more”, or “male role models”.
@@snakegriffin4928 He has HALF the $OLUTiON... We need to empower men more... and we NEED to subdue women more. It is just in female human nature to run wild until they destroy everything unless they are kept in check. I'm not suggesting we become barbarians like muslims are with regards to women... but women DO NEED numerous, clear and $TRiCT boundaries for society to function and flourish. THi$. i$. iNDi$PUTABLE.
This guy is hitting the nail on the head with so many topics. I’m 34, navy veteran, college graduate. I really felt I was struggling so much and had every type of vice you can imagine up until my thirties. Now I cleaned myself up, I have a decent job and very little debt but it still always feels like there’s that cloud hanging over me.
Regarding the could...I highly recommend IFS therapy/paradigm...there is an episode on this channel about it...where don't have to be controlled by these clouds...you are inherently worthy. Good on ya!
Better give your nation away to immigrants, in cel! As if people only oppose many of these things for the reasons he's stated. He's assigning cause without a true understanding of the world and society.
I hear you brother, the best thing is just keep doing your thing. Stay focused on yourself and your health. Be a gentlemen to others and care for yourself
“Child of an immigrant mother who lived and died a secretary… but everyday she told me I was wonderful, and that stuck with me” it really only takes one person
Same as my own ma. But we had my dad too who kept my feet on the ground. They were together all their lives. More people did that back then I think. I’m 52 this may btw.
@@T1tusCr0w my mom always told me to dream big and that I could be anything I put my mind too, I didn’t have a father and I’d agree with you social norms have changed people don’t stay together for the kids sake
This is why I believe in the “found family” I had a terrible family always told me I was worthless, useless, pathetic excuse for a man. When my parent divorced I got to raise myself from 6th grade and I got to choose my mentors and my life was changed forever as soon as I stopped looking at my parent to parent me and instead anymore who would help
@@colecarmichael5724 There are no kids who are "worthless" Only Adults. And they were made that way by getting told & and listening to some PoS who moulded them when they couldn’t fight back 😔
With the dumpster-fire that is the intersection between the internet, podcasts, and male identity, I am extremely grateful that I stumbled upon this video. What a great nuanced and thoughtful conversation. Thank you, Rich. Thank you, Scott.
The level of admiration, intellectual exchange, vulnerability and mutual respect is something to be lauded here. One of many brilliant conversations helmed by Rich. Thank you gentlemen for making the time to share this dialogue. Peace and more peace.
I know a lot of people here will disagree with me but growing up playing some video games with really good stories and masculine men changed my outlook on life entirely. I am incredibly attached to the Xenoblade series because it speaks about this stuff so much
welding saved my life, after high school i was so lost and knew i wasn’t going to college until i started welding. got me male role models, taught me a VERY underrated skill, and gave me something to be proud of.
Brother I’ve been welding for 5 years now out of high school. Pay is still shit, can’t afford a place of my own. You really want to be welding for the rest of your working life? The next 30 years? I sure as hell don’t. Every welder I know is addicted to nicotine and cigarettes and looks 15 years older than they are. I’m in GA and 23.50 an hour is not shit here. Tell me more about how you think welding is so great? How does your body feel at the end of the day? Do you go to the gym? Do you take care of your body?
"the ultimate expression of masculinity is getting involved in the life of a boy that isn't yours" - this couldn't be more true. Now that I'm older, I realize the profound effects my coaches in sports had on me. Having a male role model who isn't your father is just so important, and I think it is what's lacking in many boys' lives. It reminds me of Joseph Campbell's idea that there needs to be a secondary father in mens' lives - a father by choice - whether a coach, minister, teacher, drill sergeant, that you almost put yourself into apprenticeship of - think karate kid, etc.
Jordan Peterson seems to be that for many many boys, I don't know if that's good enough, he might be like the mcdonalds of male figures, but he did help me personally.
Question, what does a male coach offer that a female coach cannot? I ask because a female coach got me started in bodybuilding/strength training not any of the men. I had reservations taking a lifting class as I was a weak runt so she and I met at the fitness center while another class was in session. She took a long time showing me the machines, the movements, explaining the concepts, providing me encouragement and answering my questions. I took her 1st class where she was training on the machines. I was fortunate to be in her last class to 25 plus years later. She normally wouldn't teach that class because she was the head of the department but they couldn't find anyone for the summer break. I let her know on her last day that because of her I had decades of fitness in my life that she was directly responsible for. It was my last time there too as I had maxed out all of the equipment and already migrated to another gym. I put on 80-90 bs of lean muscle and was in the top 5 strongest men at my new gym. That was not an easy feat given they were all "enhanced" and I wasn't. To provide a easy reference I could lift a washer with one hand and picked up a dryer with a bear hug and took it to the curb. Not bad for a runt. Side note, the male coach there would constantly mess with me because he was jealous that I maxed out the machines and he could only do about 70% of max. He was an ex college football player that had a wing named after him. I have been lifting for a long time and there are only two trainers that I would ever recommend both just happen to be women. My favorite was 5" 4" and she was the personal trainer for the local SWAT department. I don't think one can be more masculine that group of men and she was the leader of the pack.
the other side doesnt want to have it. And they'll do everything to avoid it until the plumbing stops working, the grid goes down, gas stations are empty, etc.
It’s men like Scott that produced the feminized male culture we have today and now try to glom on to the predictable backlash. The famous adage tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are - with friends like men hater Tara Swisher who needs enemies. If you truly care about men’s plight, listen to Jordan Peterson.
@@mikeb.7279 here's the thing, I far prefer Peterson's lectures over this gentleman. That being said Scott is also bringing things to light that need touching on. Why would you suggest people funnel themselves into one channel of information? That's something that Peterson actively calls against. The future is going to be a joint effort and we NEED to start learning to talk with people we disagree with without just writing them off.
Scott has quickly become one of my favorite authors and social critique writers out there. I love his no nonsense approach. There has been a huge gap and need for true and ruthless social commentary since the passing of comedians George Carlin and Bill Hicks. In this time of crises in America, we need strong voices like Scott that just tell it like it is no matter how uncomfortable we all get hearing it. This stuff must be said as awareness is the first step to solving any big problems.
@@tweex1the fundamental criticism of feminism is that is calls for rights without responsibility. The right to vote, but not be drafted for example. The only systemic advantages in modern society are geared towards women, yet feminists continue to gaslight women into the victim mentality. Feminism has transformed into full blown misandry. I.e. "we don't need to man" culture.
Scott is truly a one of one. It's rare that you have a successful person who isn't afraid to admit that alongside their lust for working hard, that fortune, good luck, "blessings", timing, etc. have also played a pivotal role in helping them to attain their status. Scott is a role model that many of us should aspire to emulate and be more like. We all have to acknowledge the people who are not in our circles, not in our bubbles, and speak up for those of whom don't have a voice because we live in a society, and society breaks down when inequality persists indefinitely.
Yeah I appreciate his humility here. So many wealthy successful people have a sort of God complex around how they view their achievements. There is a grossly inflated sense of superiority around their abilities and very few admit that a large part of their success was plain old luck. We all need luck in life and luck takes many forms. Of course their hard work and skills should not be overlooked but there is always more to it that just that. If everybody who was hard working and talented got rich there would be nowhere near the level of wealth disparity in the world.
@@thru_and_thru The actually smart ones will understand that it's all just luck: the traits you are born with, the experiences you get to live from the moment you are born, the way your brain processes those experiences etc. None of these are your merit.
@@Vlad-bs1js And we should all take personal enjoyment from our successes, but never laud it over others. By all means, you do you-get after it, get that green, whatever you're grinding-just stay humble.
Thank you, gentlemen. As a divorced and childless Gen X man, I see my purpose on this planet is to help the younger people navigate this adventure and survive - hopefully thrive as well. That is why I am proud to teach at a community college. I've had many careers but most of them were selfish pursuits that were soulless. I've learned exponentially more from tragedies and failures than any successes. It has given me wisdom that has no value unless I share it. The young people who show up to learn at a community college need adults like us more than ever. For many of my students, I am one of the only truly gritty men in their lives. I don't just talk about service, I live it. I sacrifice daily to serve broke, young adults to the best of my ability. I take my roll very seriously and the thoughts you both share help me find clarity and to not feel so alone. Your honest heartfelt insights gave me a good boost on this sunny spring Saturday in 2024.
Such a relatable comment. I'm also a childless Gen X professor at a very working-class university. A handful of lovely long-term monogamous relationships somehow never led to making my own family. I used to think of teaching as a paycheck and way to fund my creative work. Now, I regard it more as a calling to serve, particularly when young people become ever more lost.
As a Zillennial, thank you! Although few men are courageous and selfless enough to take on the responsibility you have. I can equally say that I remember a few men & women who were my teachers and saw I needed guidance. Particularly a teacher who would buy me comic's in exchange for the completion of my coursework and good grades on tests. During that period of my life at home my parents fought all the time and my Dad wouldn't give me the time of day so I could tell him about what I learned at school. My macho Dad was also an alcoholic. Never once did anyone take interest in my proper development as a kid. Except for a few people. I learned almost everything myself, how to shave, ride a bike, swim, read, etc... into adulthood. it was because of those few people that I learned I was capable, capable enough to overcome challenges & learning obstacles and achieve my goals. Not going to lie though, most gen X males were macho - toxic masculinity type kind of men throughout my life like I remember this one college chemistry teacher who gaslighted me in front of the whole class. When I would raise my hand and asked questions. 1 time I asked about methane being a greenhouse gas and affecting the climate potentially. I found out He didn't like me and would put me down by lying to me and telling me Ihe didn't know what I was talking about and it didn't exist. He was gaslighting me at 19 and he was in his mid 40s. At the time I thought it was because I ask too many questions but now That I'm older in my late twenties. I realize it's because, I didn't fit his ideal of how a young man is supposed to be or look like and it threatened his ego. So he had to put me down and he didn't care if it was the expense of my education. Which was sad because he should have not been a professor holding a PHD & use it to feed his ego. It's crazy because he would say there's no such thing as stupid questions except for when I asked them. Please talk to other men your age. Toxic masculinity is a huge problem.
@@BruderAdrian There was a major shift in personality style between Gen X and Millenials. I am not saying it is right but a lot of what Millenials take as Gen X being mean or disliking them is just the way Gen X, men in particular, talk,. I am at the younger edge of Gen X and I had older Gen X and Boomers as college professors and they were all like that at the beginning of every semester. They were pushing your buttons, trying to push you out of the childhood high school mindset. They were always much nicer and more like friends by the end of the semester when the class that had started out as 60 - 70 was whittled down to ~15 students. That's why they did it. They knew that 3/4 of the class was going to say it was too hard and quit. Pushing on you to see if you'll stand up for yourself is just a Boomer & Gen X personality trait. They really aren't doing it out of malice but I get it that they should recognize that the generations don't behave the same...well to be fair, Gen Z really doesn't have any qualms about standing up, but again different generations. I stopped arguing with my Gen Z daughter when she was around 17 because she is far more ruthless than I am.
@@mercedesb2299 thanks I appreciate your insight. Perhaps you're right although I won't lie I pushed back too lol He ran a study with students in Organic Chem and I was the only one in General Chemistry for stem majors that participated in the vape juice study lol Just to annoy him more or so I thought. Haha with what you said in mind it makes me think that perhaps he played me right into being more involved somehow. Interesting 🤔 perspective.
I don’t hate those who are economically, romantically and financially better off than me. I hate those who are better off than me and are working hard to make my frustrating life more miserable.
Spoken like someone who truly understands that the jealous conspirators spread rumors that people with potential are schizos who think people are "out to get them" because they know if they don't keep people down people will surpass their economic, romantic, and financial standing 😂Its the losers who think life is all about game theory who hate to see other people be more successful than they are, particularly if they know deep down they didn't truly earn their success and the person they are jealous of who has the potential to be successful has earned everything. Lots of people who were born into wealth literally spend tons of money to try and ruin the life of people they are jealous of, its just a fact of life. Then if they realize they can't stop the person becoming successful, they will try and offer help after tons of sabotage so at least they can try and make it look like they had a hand in the other person's success, when in reality they mostly had a hand in holding the other person back. You have to ask, "what do most people born with everything a person could ever want or need actually do with their excess wealth?" They mostly try and stop other people from surpassing them in wealth and power by using their wealth and power. Its that simple.
At this point, anyone who is well enough off that they could help, and chooses not to help, is part of the problem. It's not enough not to be making the problem worse. If somebody isn't trying to make it better, WHY NOT. Also, a sensible country would be banning those goddam hookup apps, not just tiktok. Hookup apps aren't going to help people find a spouse.
@@tealkerberus748 Exactly what Scott Galloway mentioned in his recent Ted Talk. Too many people are looking for ways to "increase my compensation while decreasing my accountability." That is why all of America is in rapid collapse.
as we’re watching a podcast talking about how young men are broke, depressed, and poor it cuts to a commercial selling $10,000 ice baths that can help us with our depression 🤣 I can’t stop laughing
But it is just patronizing comment from an upwardly mobile, privileged white man. You can say what you want, but the fact is that if you are a white, you have incalculable advantages seen & unseen. "90%" of white sons are all in the 10% by default.
I graduated HS in Kentucky of 2020, The single most important thing I got out of my ENTIRE education was the fact that the school was a career ready school and still had Shop/Tool/ROTC/Business/IT Ect. I got a job and was working full time Senior year of Highschool during peak lockdown and I didnt have school work the last half of my senior year so I worked and made money and it really set me up. The rest of my experience in school felt like brain rot. Especially in highschool.
Well i was depressed and alone my entire 20s no jobs no friends no girlfriend no reason to be alive its a miracle im still alive. In my 30s now im aiming to finally get my paycheck from a job and mabye even my first realtionship
Keep working brother, it aint easy. I have a quote from Jordan Peterson on my desk that inspires me every day: "Get your act together, tell the truth, work hard, concentrate on something for a year or two and you can be a world-beater."
I couldn’t agree more as a woman, a mother and a psych nurse. Men will help save men. I’ve said it before and I’ll continue to say it and support the men that are doing something about it. Thank you both. 🙏🏼
Then men won't be saved. Our economy has empowered women. If they are not using that power to benefit men in general, not just themselves and a few top men, then it will not be enough.
Did they actually say that? Because they edited this to look like he said women can be masculine too and I stopped listening. Honestly this doesn't deserve my attention if that was the message and that's how they edited this.
I’m coming at it more as males mental health aspect. But I believe he said that comment as well. Everyone does have the capability to possess both feminine and male characteristics. I think it’s a confusing time for both young adults right now in general. But we do need more balanced and emotionally stable men who can model how to be “ideal” humans, successful people in society and when and how it’s appropriate to interact with women. I think women can teach men these things, but it’s better understood when it comes from another male (if that makes sense). Men suffer just as much as women in different ways, and the stigma is not fully eradicated yet.
When you listen to Scott talk you can really hear the passion, sincerity, anguish, just about every emotion pour out of him. When people like this to run for presidency not the feces that usually we have to choose from
As a 30 year old man finally starting to get it together, I agree. Lack of a strong male father-figure/mentor is detrimental to our growth. Reminds me of a song lyric: “be kind and keep a smile. keep your head up and try to find a friend or a child and encourage their life”
Us men gatekeep this is a big issue, American society has trained us to push down guys around us and defend what women and wealth we have gotten. Finding a decent role model as a guy who has achieved what we are going for that isnt going to do an Andrew Tate and sell us BS to make money or ignore us is tough.
You’re my favorite podcaster, inquisitively curious, open, well prepared, interesting, hard working and it shows. Thanks for keeping this free in apple podcast where I prefer to listen to your podcasts , I hugely appreciate it and hope you continue to offer this for free!
100% resonate with this. I put myself in debt for a college education to become a teacher. I gave up that career after 7 years. Why? My profession wasn't affording me the income or time to start a family. At pay below 50k a year and a working week between 55-60 hours, I was overworking myself while barely paying my own expenses. When my grandparents became ill at the same time, I had no time to help my mother take care of them. The 40-hour work week wasn't just about pay. It freed working men and women to meet, keep a home, raise a family, and take care of each other.
@@forgottenfuryan I have no love or empathy for princesses, yet I agree with the very sad truth that teacher pay, worldwide, is a JOKE. Oh, we get summers off? Yes, with no pay and consider ourselves very lucky to find three months of work risking our lives, literally, as temporary slave workers in steel mills, coal mines, etc. Been there, done that. No thank you and no more. My father played that game for decades and died a hopeless, sickly, loveless workaholic. I have decided not to emulate his sorry example, although in my early days, I was on the same ruthless road to ill health and spiritual desolation. Work to LIVE. That is my creed these days. Any further comments would be superfluous.
@@forgottenfuryan I could Iive relatively well on summer temporary steelworker and coal miner pay but certainly not on temporary tutorial pay. Hopefully, you will never be faced with such traumatic economic choices in which your health will be put at considerable risk in trade for filthy lucre.
I joined the military right out of high school. Served for four years in 3rd Ranger Battalion. Got out, went to school at Colorado State University. Dropped out after half a semester and proceeded to blow all of my money on a joy ride around the US for a couple months. I remember looking down at my bank account one day and realizing I had about one more month of partying before the show ended. I recognized I basically had no money, I had some cool stories from the army and a few good friends, and due to my background in the infantry I had essentially no marketable skills, employment opportunities or dating prospects. At that moment I was faced with a choice - go back to school, which I hated the sound of, or rejoin the army and crawl back to my unit with my tail between my legs, which I hated the sound of even more. So I went back to school. I’m a year away from graduating now with a specialization in regenerative agriculture and permaculture design and I’m planning on attending a Master’s level program for landscape architecture in the fall of 2025. The journey from that moment of realization to now has been the most challenging, yet equally rewarding experience of my life. And everything these two are saying is true fellas. Once you get your shit together and have a vision for your life (that’s the big one - know where you’re going, and why) you will be tripping over high quality women. It’s sort of a sad state of affairs that simply having your shit together puts you in the top 10% of young men, but that’s where we are. There’s literally no excuses that are worth listening to. Get in shape, map out a vision for your life, and make meaningful progress towards your goals. If you want to go a step further find a way to connect with a higher power, get sober, and find a sense of purpose in service to the world. You’re only alive for 100 years at best. That means you have roughly 80 years to make the world as beautiful as possible for your children and grandchildren. The playbook for success right now is exceedingly simple, the hard part is simply making the choice to change your life and following through with that choice through your free will decisions everyday.
I don’t know what to say to guys that have completely talked themselves out of even trying to talk to women or date .. there are entire channels aimed at talking about how terrible everything is for young men . I see more guys reaching for victimhood and that is disturbing
I didn't have a Mom these guys could really understand. Growing up around a vulnerable narcissist does the opposite and teaches that nothing matters to your mother except for herself and her victimhood. She broke my fathers soul but he still tried to mold me into something worthwhile. The failure to achieve that is all in my hands.
The conversation about mentorship and masculine role models is everything I’ve been wanting to hear from men. Thank you for helping restore my faith in humanity in a way.
ever since i was a little girl and saw how horribly my male peers both treated each other, and the girls (including me) in their lives while growing up ive always hoped that one day guys would wake up and stop trying to be like their fathers and grandfathers so much. Its not so much that they are men, but the men from past generations are typically not men you want to look up to. The cycle of abuse is an incredibly easy one to fall into, i imagine its even easier for males to fall into it when they live in a society that is designed from top to bottom to trick them with their own insecurities and desires. what more people need to understand is that even if you find yourself a part of that cycle, its never too late to try and better yourself. When men are taught emotions and empathy are weakness, it tricks them into ignoring their own unconscious needs, and when they arent taught how to cope with emotions they also do not fully understand, its easy to fall victim to unhealthy coping mechanisms. Sadly, that cycle takes some to violence. Women are not immune to that as well, but in western society we’ve throughout the decades have spent plenty of time ridiculing feminine traits that regurgitating anything that’s been said would be stale. Men havent really had to self reflect in this way before, i think its partially due to the internet.
Scott’s attitudes largely reflect my own and how I was raised by my dad. I hope to leverage the good fortune my wife and I had to instill the same priorities of empathy, love, and social cooperation into our son.
A perfect marriage or relationship is an illusion; there's no universal playbook for making them work. What's effective for one couple may not apply to another. Nevertheless, I've come to understand that there's always a solution to be found. Half a decade ago, my wife and I faced such trials in our marriage that divorce seemed inevitable. Yet, through perseverance and determination, we navigated through the rough waters and emerged stronger, reunited, and more resilient
There is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without him, I love him so much. wish I can get him back I can do anything to have him back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is Shelly renee white
Did you have to pander to her and give up your hobbies and friends to make it work? Did you have to work less? Women are interminably “not happy.” They’ll always find something to say you need to change. Guys, don’t do it. Stand your ground on being who she fell in love with. You both will be better off whether it works out or not.
US Army Basic Training got my ass in line, and good NCO's kept me in line .even through 4 tours in Iraq.. then picking up snowboarding and mtn biking after i was medically retired ... made healthy friends and social connections that will last me for life... now as i learn late in life to lean on others as a man... i begin to realize i can do anything .... mentorship staying active, and social circles are everything for men!!!
Your purpose doesn't matter. Every person and circumstance you come across, will attempt to give you a new purpose. Real purpose comes from understanding yourself, and learning life lessons.
@@ellengarcia4041 Except make millions and millions of dollars with his books, investments, popular podcasts. Wonder what you’re doing? What channel are all your amazing accomplishments discussed? Since you judged maybe you should share?
Getting high can foster perspective. Perspective is an important tool to validate a moment in time. Staying high erases the contrast. As he stated ‘it’s hard to read the label when you’re inside the bottle’.
As a 25 Year old who didn't have any sort of apprenticeship support growing up, and also all of my friends who didn't have such a thing. I think it's very important and I appreciate you talking about this.
This has given me a lot of confidence in how I have lived my life. I'm not all the way there yet, a man still at home at 29 and single. But, I'm on a good track in my career, I'm in touch with my emotions and masculinity, and a plethora of wonderful friends. This is such an important conversation for us to be having, thank you too so much😊😊
Beautiful, needed conversation. So great to see men, making themselves vulnerable, working to heal themselves, their sons, and the other men around them. That is strength.
This is my all-time favorite RRP episode out of the hundreds I have heard. Every single RRP episode is super interesting, so the bar is high. I have shared this with many friends, educators, coaches, our kids, and my son's college lacrosse teammates. Scott Galloway addresses the many reasons why we all should pay attention to how boys and men struggle. Supporting boys and men benefits all genders. What a great conversation between two emotionally courageous men who openly share their fears and doubts while acknowledging their privilege and success. Thanks, fellas. I have listened to this three times.
I grew up in a poor hood with plenty of drugs and some violence. I’m a chemist in my 40s with a bachelor in engineering and happy life experiences. From my perspective, this is the key… -good parents -curiosity for science and learning -elementary school Elementary school will define the rest of your life. If the kid is interested in learning and his friends are relatively good, he’s 80% there. The rest will just follow.
I have somehow gotten sucked into the r/GenZ thread on Reddit and it is full of GenZ "men". I am 49, so it feels weird to me to call them men, but they are in their mid-twenties now, so they are men. That thread is heartbreaking and frustrating because it is almost exclusively GenZ men, no GenZ women, and they are absolutely miserable. For whatever reason, the Reddit algorithm continuously puts it in front of Gen X, so there are a fair amount of Gen X men & women in that thread at any given time, genuinely trying to understand what went wrong, and why these guys are so freaking depressed in their 20s. For Gen X as a collective, our 20s were the peak of hedonistic bliss. The problem seems to be the difference in perspectives on life. GenX did a LOT of f**ing up in our 20s but we didn't have any "rules" telling us that we had squandered our entire lives and we were going to die destitute and alone. Gen Z is the opposite, the overarching problem is the massive amount of rules they have for EVERYTHING. They have set up 1000 ways to fail in even the most mundane tasks because they have a right way for everything. If something happens and they don't hit one of these thousands of completely arbitrary benchmarks, that's it, it's all over, you pissed it away and there is no hope. There is no convincing them that they could be happy if they would stop judging each other and themselves and just live, embrace the best they can do for right now to pay the bills and keep pushing toward their passion. My dream was always to be a writer. I didn't break into writing and turn it into a career until I was in my late 30s. Between graduating high school and achieving my dream I was a stripper, a bartender, and a veterinary surgical tech. I was an alcoholic, and you could probably say, drug addict at various points along the way too. It never crossed my mind that any of those things should preclude me from being a writer one day, and they didn't. I also raised a daughter by myself. She is GenZ but she doesn't buy into the benchmarks and rules. At 26 years old she has graduated nursing school, worked as a nurse, decided she hated it, joined the military (over my protests - I am much further left than my daughter), and quit the military because she hates rules as much as I do (I knew that one would be short-lived), got married, bought a house, had two children and is loving being a stay at home mom, and writing for a couple commercial blogs online. She has no idea what she wants to do for a profession but she has a paying job, her husband has a solid blue-collar job that pays their bills. I am not worried about her.
Too bad the U.S. government clearly does not adequately value public education as slews of kids go by the wayside and then turn into aimless, despondent adults. It's baffling to me how little we as Americans, and humans, really, undervalue the concept of cultivation. Cultivating young minds, creativity and critical thinking, hell, even in a literal sense nature, helpful infrastructure, etc.... it's like, once a human has achieved some modicum of success, the part in their brain that is like, "Hey, we ought to help and support others-" just... turns OFF.
@@tweex1 I don't think that's quite right. We really really do value cultivating the next generation. Politicians and media have spent all of my lifetime talking about how they're investing in children, kids are the future, etc. And every parent is perfectly willing to put themselves through 20+ years of suffering so their kids can have a brighter future. The problem is we're being scammed. We're outsourcing all of the education to "experts" based on what we're told is their past performance. But the experts are not really experts in anything, they're just academics. And then the experts are further handicapped by the administrative assemblies that have cropped up around them to usurp all these free money we're pouring into our kids, to the point that actual teachers and educators get a tiny bit of the total and the rest goes to administrators, massive building projects, pet research, and especially SPORT BALL.
Man, I think of how lucky I was to have an early boomer Dad (b 1949) and that I was born so late (1995). I just let him lead me, he was always there and gave me great advice. He's been gone for 5 years now, but his lessons are constantly there. He was firm but kind, and that combination just made it so that I could tackle just about any hardship even after he was gone. He gave me tasks not for labor but to show that I was needed despite being by far the youngest. I never felt like a burden I felt valued through the work he assigned and talking to him after it was over with a meal and a beer are memories I'll never forget.
Men aren't mistaking anything for what it is. Social media is not our friend, but it's free and available when our friend stop coming around. We aren't mistaking porn for romance, we just can't compete in the dating pool. We aren't giving up life and becoming depressed, we are stripped of our needs and finances and fill that hole with artifical garbage. Reddit isn't causing depression, depressed people seek out community, unfortunately it becomes an echo chamber for depression to fester.
It's impossible not to mistake something you're viewing over and over again for real life no matter how often you tell yourself otherwise. There's always going to be a part of the brain that believes it and makes judgements upon the real world based on the visuals it constantly consumes and telling yourself you know it's not real doesn't make a single lick of difference. Anyone who views porn regularly will be mistaking it for real life despite everything.
And take this note, many females have not had a drop in sexual activity. So If you go to your 30's without dating which is increasingly common (since one reason they say young men can wait until they're 50 and still have kids) you are pretty much a virgin that has to "impress" a girl who has had more partners than you've had dates. If a man asks how to make the physical side a relationship better they'll shame the man for only being concerned about sex. The only place to go at that point is porn, and its nowhere near going to tell you anything you need to know but its a desperation move to convince the guy he's trying 'something'. Being 12 and being shocked the first time you see boobs is funny. Being 35 and being shocked the first time you see boobs is sad.
I really like this guy .. first guy I’ve seen in awhile to accurately portray classic liberalism .. witty.. doesn’t hold punches .. but compassionate and empathetic .. perfect blend to raise accountable young men ..
@@sverdrup4321 Yeah he is definitely a progressive liberal through and through. Hard to hold it against him though when so few of them are even willing to address the issues hes addressing, even if he alienates the people suffering with those issues in the process through his adherence to the politics that got us here in the first place.
@@sverdrup4321 bc it holds the values of the enlightenment .. where people are judged by their character and merit, and not their class or identity group .. ppl forget who the liberals were in the 90’s.. rooting for the little man .. using reason and logic to do anything.
@@sticks7857 bingo .. I remember when progressive meant logical sensible solutions to complex problems and going against rhe old school methods .. it wasn’t crucifying white men and burning down universities.. power just corrupts man .. white ppl had the power now the liberal marxists. Shits sad and sorry .. this is how I brain dump
Wealth is becoming more concentrated which means most men have no chance to compete or simply give up trying. Jobs are less secure. Women also don't want to struggle and want security so even if an average man succeeds in building healthy relationships, it often does not last. After being burnt once or twice, it becomes a game that's no longer fun to play.
The emphasis that he puts on friends is awesome. Men need friends. The reason why friends are so beneficial for young men is because that young man can go to his friend, ask him or run some silly idea past him, tell him something dark and personal, knowing that his buddy is just gonna absorb his sadness and ensure safe passing through whatever that young man is going through. Friends are also great to have because, conceptually, there is nothing tying that person to him to be his friend. He is there by choice. It the decision, not the blood-related-ness, that is comforting to know that this friend truly cares to stay around.
I ran cross country and track all the way through college, When I finished college I took a coaching position with the college for the cross country team. I loved coaching the up and coming student athletes more than when I personally competed, so much so that the team made it to ncaa nationals for the teams first time. I coached for 4 years and miss it still. Life took off and my career took priority, I now get to train the up and coming younger linemen as an overhead electrical lineman. I’ve always enjoyed teaching.
My friend had a relevant PhD, a gold medal at the informatics Olympiad, the university medal from a reputable university, and Google didn’t give him an interview. He had to get someone who worked at Google to refer him and only then did he get an interview and the job…
@@notyourdad361 If he hadn't worked his tail off to get his PhD and especially study for the Olympiad his "luck" of finding a reference will not help him. The skill is a prerequisite. With skill you can provide some value you can get paid to. No skill and all the lucky chances you get won't compensate for it. So skill is needed, luck is optional.
No you don’t. I’m 28 live in the street mentally Ill parents, abused, haven’t spoken to anyone in 11 years you don’t care about anyone, that’s why you ran the world into the ground.
He cares, I care. But there are realities to wanting to help. Give advice, mentor, donate money. But you also have to show and have the desire to get better. I’m sorry you for what has happened to you. But you can still change. You can look yourself in the mirror and decide you alone control your life. Not your past. It’s all about the first step.
@@npappas2 I am in the process of making myself better everyday and I have a long way to go. the first thing you need to admit to is I am far from perfect but if you want something that I have that you do not maybe I can give insight of how to get there.
Thank you both, I really needed that. 14 year male RN and USA swim coach that somewhat followed a similar path as Rich but got denied a great UC education, and love being a mentor to my patients and swim athletes. So glad I listened start to finish.
Our 17 yo son is in an apprenticeship to learn a skill. He may attend college. But I agree this lack of emphasis on learning a valuable marketable skill and over emphasis on college is hurting our young men and women!
I live in a first world foreign country, without the US status culture, and it is perfectly acceptable to not go to college and learn a trade...Also, a lot of countries have working holiday visas for folks mostly under 30...so you can live AND work in a cool foreign country for like a year...it is so valuable just to get into a different culture such that you start to learn to discriminate 'the voices' in your head...whose are they?
Maybe just maybe kids are different - some should go to college, some not - maybe stop speaking for everyone and get used the idea that people are different
Lucky him to get an apprenticeship i have been looking for one for years but I got lucky and somehow ended up becomming a cheesemaker and producing most of the cheese in all ontario
What's wild and so overwhelmingly discouraging for me is: I'm in the top 20%. My online photos rate 8/10 in attractiveness, I make 95K a year, I'm 29 and fit (don't have a 6 pack but can run 6 miles). And I still get no romantic attention. My female coworkers are all dating guys 10 years older than them. By any reasonable goalpost I'm doing great, especially by the standards of my generation. But we are SO fixated on the top 10% or 1%, that I feel basically just as neglected/invisible as the 80% of people below me.
Not to be rude, but you listed all external, "tangible" assets. For many women, including myself, we yearn for emotional, mental, and spiritual safety. Believe it or not, we put more value on that than any financial gain a man may have. For us, it's about safety and feeling safe with a partner - despite income. The internet shows women just wanting men for the money, but IN REAL LIFE, many women would not hesitate to date/marry a man who is not in this so-called "1-10%". They really just want men who are emotionally/mentally safe to be with. You'd be horrified with what many women have to endure from men on a daily basis. Unfortunately, it makes us very skeptical, scared, and harsh as a means for survival (not saying it's right, btw). Anyway, aside from your assets that you listed, who are you, really? If you took everything that you listed away...who are you? And whoever that healthy-minded, emotionally-stable person is...that's who your wife will want to be with. :) Love and peace. ❤❤❤
@Kuann1 That's fair. I'm not a man in the dating world so Idk the struggles of it personally. Don't beat yourself up about it, though. Remember, the internet is not a real place, lol. The last guy I was involved with, I met at a park. We were both doing things we enjoyed and somehow both had the courage to "take a chance". All that to say that Idt that based off my looks that I'm in the "top 1-10%" (which is what men tend to prefer), but also...who gives a flying flip??? Lol. The woman at the right time will take a risk with you. Plus, you're pretty young for a guy wanting a relationship, so you'll have plenty of options for a longer period of time. :) Therefore... Don't give up!
@@PropheticDreamComicsI agree but being a guy and seeing the other angle. There is a huge emphasis on looking photogenic, being viewed a successful and social. I started to notice it when my sister started dating. The guys around her friend group who were genuinely great people weren’t being considered amongst her friends because they lacked something exceptional to make them stand out. Those “traits” always fall back on 1/3 things. Looks, money or social status. I’m pretty sure women are extremely unaware of how much emphasis they put on it subconsciously. It’s a basic human instinct to want an attractive, put together partner. Everyone wants that but you’re invisible as a man unless you’re genetically exceptional or born rich. Pretty much cut from the cloth of god. It’s gone from average expecting average or slightly better to unhealthy, overweight, “I have no goals” Netflix all day girls expecting elite as the norm. I’m in the under 25 age range, the Covid generation, and it’s very different to how my parents dated. Majority of men are single because they cannot live up to the new “stand out” group which is based on international tiktok standards. You really need to be elite now. The exception you need to be earning 90k+ the second you finish uni/college is becoming standard for my age range to even be considered “I guess you’re alright”. Even then no one wants to be the “I’ll date you because there’s no one else at the moment til someone better comes around” or being settled for and having it passive aggressively mocked to you and your friends. This isn’t all women but there is also a growing faction of women who lack to provide unity in a relationship. They want all the benefits of being in a relationship without pulling their own end of the agreement, talking to others behind your back, providing nothing besides sex and expecting the world.
Great comment. This is how it is. I'm a 32 yo 5'5" male social worker, and I'll tell you, my friend who is 5'8" and a software developer sure gets a lot of dates. The truth is no one gives me a chance to meet them. In the relationships I've been in I've been kind, honest, committed, gentle. I'm not perfect. I wish people were just willing to give me a chance.
@@shoutatthesky i'm actually not gay, i'm bisexual. And I like to think I know a fair bit about both feminine and masculine energies. I think you may have internalized homophobia and likely misogyny because you likely don't attract the gaze of either men or women unless it's a gaze of distrust or discomfort and so you cope with your emotional pain by externalizing your hurt onto others. Best of luck on your journey
What a great podcast, and something we need to hear more about. I'm 45 and just got divorced for the 2nd time a week ago. I made some bad choices, and my partner had/has her own things going on, but I'm 100% in the boat of feeling like a failure and not having a ton of hope. I've worked my whole life, from 15 till now, but I didn't make great educational choices nor financial decisions. I'm not a fuckup, in that I don't get arrested, no major societal issues, I'm tall, considered good-looking (though I have trouble feeling/saying it), but I'm not good material on paper. Do I have another 30+ years of this ahead of me? Sometimes I hope not, and other times I think sure, I got this. I may not be your typical disillusioned male, but I am indeed disillusioned. Life is fucking hard, man. I love hearing good, positive, sensible voices like these two, so thank you to them.
As the other person noted, you don’t have it that bad. I am slightly older than you and have gone through my own insecurities as such. What I would say though is that focus on you. Meaning, set some fitness goals and start doing it consistently. Preferably not all by yourself, but join some classes etc.. If you do this, it won’t be long before your outlook sharpens up as you start feeling better and more accomplished. Finding another relationship gets a lot easier, and dare I say you you will have a better chance to find the right person too. Good luck! Life is what we make out of it.
@rid.h.tom.4296 I understand what you're saying. Perhaps my comment is being taken differently than intended. I am physically fit and quite active. I do have a good job, a roof, etc. I guess that maybe I was being too honest in stating how I was feeling and what my current life looks like. I appreciate that your comments are intended to help versus shit on. I was voicing my feelings much as one might in an AA meeting where you're not typically going to get someone telling you what to do, etc. But rather by you, in this case me, voicing your problems, fears, etc you're helping others. Again, perhaps I was just being too honest in a forum that isn't meant for it. Thank you for being positive though!
@@thomasmainecoon Ignore them, you weren't crying poor. The statement "you don't have it that bad" is a pretty weird take on someone just sharing where they're at and how they feel, especially in the midst of a major life shake up like where you're at. Good on you for sharing your current experience and thanking the generous men in this discussion. I note you have many more likes on your comment than commenters who chose to minimise your experience for no apparent reason.
To the comment about not a lot of opportunities for young people not having an "on-ramp" to a liveable wage, here is an opportunity: professional trail building. The skills involved with building trail systems involves an incredible number of different skillsets that carry over into numerous other types of jobs. Entry level wages are typically much higher than minimum wages. Bigger Cities and counties now are hiring trail builders as full-time staff as well. Hope this helps at least one person searching for something that they may not even know this is even a job that you can get paid to do. Right now, today, there's really no end in sight on the demand for skilled workers that are willing to travel (it can be seasonal). I'm in the Southeast and we build year round, usually.
@@_nebulousthoughtshiking, mountain biking mostly. Bike Parks are popping up all the time. Private OHV and Moto Parks are starting to get popular too.
Needed to hear this, was sent from a friend. I resonated with the recovery & then the points talked about in the anger brewing in my male peers around the financial & emotional stability we are seeking. I'm 32 and have 8 years of self development experience to the point where this podcast beautifully captured all the points & soulutions to shift that culture and empower my fellow men that are struggling today. Gives me hope to continue spreading the message and giving love to my fellow brothers. It takes a village rings in my ear. Shared this with a few of my friends. Keep the lighthouse shining for those lost at sea my friends.
This dude is one of the most on-point voices out there right now. Love watching him on Real Time. As a father of two 12 year old boys (twins), I will definitely be following Galloway and suggest my sons check out his work as they get a little older.
I haven't listened yet, but I've seen him before. *He places ZERO responsibility on women as I recall.* I'm not quite 60. From what I can tell _this is a female crisis not a male one._ Males generally work and achieve for females. Modern females are mostly unattractive, entitled, and using the internet as a proxy for the attention they want. Naturally they end up miserable, but by that time it's too late. This was not the case when I was young. I'm not the most attractive guy, but I'm smart and funny not too bad looking so I did fine. I have a strong feeling I'd be in the same boat as these kids were I a young man today. The quickest fix I can see is this: kill no fault divorce and kill alimony. Most women are waiting till around 30 to get married, and they end up 'compromising' on a man they're not actually compromising for. Thus entitled and dissatisfied, they divorce the men they "settle" for in order to have kids. It happened to my son. It happened to two of his friends. Now I have to help my son out on the QT. If it wasn't on the QT she'd steal it. Ending no fault divorce will fix that and give them permission to take a chance. Right now they have no permission, not from me anyway. Nor from chance, nor from fate.
It’s refreshing to see someone from the other side politically speaking to young men with this level of compassion and care. Even though I can tell that Scott and I differ on a lot politically, I can really see he’s had the humility and the dedication to do the research and come up with good solutions to problems many refuse to see. I’m looking forward to his book for sure, I think he’s absolutely right about a lot of what he says on masculinity, and I hope more people hear his message.
To have self esteem you must do something esteemable. Don't follow your passion, follow your talent. I'm a woman and I didn't agree with absolutely everything but there was lots of solid advice here. I was given rubbish advice as a teen and only just realised recently that I was never taught how to set a goal or even to *have* goals aside from "get good grades." Add abuse and trauma into the deal and it's no wonder I have struggled all my adult life. We need more mentors in the world to make up for the shortcomings of our parents and schoolteachers. Thank you for this 💜
@@mateuszmisztela601 Talent is overrated. You'll get reasonably good at anything that you apply yourself to with enough consequence. What we mistake for "talent" is often what we in some way aquired a bit of a head start in as kids. But we shouldn't let that define us if we don't want to.
Thanks Scott for giving credit to all the little things we do to raise our kids. Just the simple (but not so simple) practice of being present with our kids is so important and a gift to them. Man, this was such a good talk. It's all the things I have been contemplating as of late and trying to support my teen because we can't go to Stanford...Keep yelling this topic from the rooftops. It's our future. Take Easy T
I won’t watch 20 minutes of most stuff. This, every minute of this was so worth my time. Thank you very much for using your platform for helping me, us, them especially at a time like now. Rewarding content. I love it.
Wow. As a senior white female with no son, I still found this deeply insightful and so necessary. Sharing this with any friend who will listen with a son or grandson. Hell, sharing this with everyone I know. 🙏
Imagine earning your master electricians license or welding certification from Stanford or UC, or any university. The pride and positivity men would display for being a part of the above-cloud community as an equal contributer to society.
As I was listening to this on 4/25/3024 and I gotta call from Anchorage Alaska P.D. My brother's body was found under a bridge. He was a lost soul, alcoholic, homeless, in and out of jail, baby mommas all over the place. Our dad was around did the best he knew how. He was the guy they are talking about, just no direction, no purpose. I don't know if society could have changed him but maybe.
Biologically, evolution wise, your brother was a far more successful man than you are.. in another 50 to 60 years you'll both be dead, but he spread far more of his genetic material throughout the world than you did and will live on in far more people.
This is absolutely brilliant podcast! I can relate as a citizen who came from abroad (legally) 18 years ago (I'm 40 years old now) with $400 in a pocket. However after this is insane grind I still feel like this "great wealth transfer" is outpacing me. Which prevents me from ability to provide much needed "safety" to actually support a family, therefor I'm walking alone and absolutely hate it! It is a tough race indeed. Even though I'm educated, well versed, fit and understand this economics well in depth, once this insane printing had began i knew middle class which i was, will be wiped. Last 4 years all im trying to do is figure out how to beat it and come ahead. Thank you for what you doing.
51:00 I don't know how important it is for another man to tell another to just feel your emotion. To tell him to cry it out and to allow yourself to feel the emotion you are feeling. Just now I'm at work and listening to this podcast and I just had a wave of emotions come through in a series of tears. I was reminiscing the day of my uncle's funeral and remembering where I was, seeing my own father, the brother of my uncle, break down in front of our family. I couldn't cry during the service because it was very rare to see my own father cry like that. I honest to God am grateful to hear another man give me the permission to cry. I know it shouldn't be this way but it just is, unfortunately.
Everyone in the country should have to watch this video. As a 32 year old, middle class male, this man knows every single thing I am extremely pissed about and think about daily. One thing that I think is super important to bring up has to do with voting. I don't vote, but it's not because I don't want to. It's because no candidate is saying what I want to hear, but we don't have a "all options suck, lets re-roll" button. We are forced to choose from what is available, but what's available sucks.
Keep the faith. Sucks less is still better than giving up and accepting sucks more. And if enough of us take action, change is possible. Possible even if seemingly unlikely beats impossible.
I think the biggest thing for me, which supports your position, is that none of us, literally, NONE OF US would choose to vote between Trump and Biden. Once I realized this, I knew that it really is all just an illusion of choice and it is utterly pointless to pretend my vote holds any weight. It could not be any more simple than that for me.
@@schonlingg.wunderbar2985 Women are empowered now. That's what has charged. This is all the same old advice for men, and it isn't enough without women taking on more responsibility. It's victim blaming to preach to men about this. They need to talk specific policies for men and boys, and how both men and women (but women even more so) can support and get them into practice. With women being more empowered, toxic femininity needs to be discussed, too. When women have more power than they did before, it's more dangerous than it has been historically. Regular men joining women in the labor movement is how a lot of women's rights happened. We need that unity to advocate for men now.
Scott has grown exponentially once beginning his show with Kara Swisher. His insight on humanity love and compassion in conjunction with his financial knowledge has matured this man into a therapeutic guru.
I don't understand why public "intellectuals" still believe that masculinity is just a social construct- It reflects an underlying desire and belief that they can socially engineer men and women to behave in ways they think will make things better, but that's the problem to begin with. Although social construct is a part of it, the underlying biological incentives that influence men and women, making them different is what we ignore, at our peril.
That is the core of Liberalism. We can all be and do anything. No one has limits. These fellows are starting to see that hey wait, things aren't perfectly equal. They even waffle around on both sides. They talk about their kids and knowing their personalities are set in stone, but then earlier they downplayed that aspect a bit. I think they're on the right path, but they're kinda just hoping to restore a normalcy they're familiar with, but also saying we can't do that.
I was very stagnated socially the last few years, potentially starting with covid. I decided that i needed to do something with my anxiety and concern I had with civic engagement and politics. I got involved I'm a few different volunteer groups in Ohio and I started focusing on voter registration, getting out the vote (GOTV), and citizen led ballot initiatives. It has done a lot with social engagement, confidence, and networking. It has been an great past year or two. I've grown and learned alot and I feel, have done a small bit of good in my state. The more people involved in the political conversation (actively not passively) the better off our society will be.
Government is only corruption. Anytime you find yourself looking to government for answers, ask yourself, is corruption going to make this situation better?
@@E_Clampus_Vitus genuinely curious- but in a democratic republic in which law is infringed on the individuals vote and those placed in power are elected; how does one change a corrupted government/system if not with their votes? Are you implying the solution would be to do simply nothing? Or is it to enact anarchy and violence against the system? If violence is the answer, how do you resolve to make the next system any better than the first?
No he's not in fact he's right here dealing with the immediate obvious problems facing man and male culture in the West. He's not five dimensions out...
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If we have another civil war, there won't be anything civil about it.
They've been telling a generation of men they're subhuman trash for a decade, and they are going to ask these same men for mercy.
Just like the movie civil war showed, I doubt mercy will be shown on any side, and I fully expect either mass exiles or mass purges to occur.
Lefties cannot be reasoned with and the far right sees that and is acknowledging that reality.
The central government is delegitimizing voting, which shows both sides that the only way to express is thru force.
They are using the judiciary for political purposes which delegitimizes it.
They are using the US Dollar as a weapon which had delegitimized it even to US allies such as India who is now trading in Yuan, Rupees and Ruble, not dollars.
They're destroying every legacy system they have and acting like it's business as usual and acting like they're smart than everyone else.
I have a Masters in Econ and I cannot believe the things they are doing. The US Government is smashing the windows in it's own house, slashing the tires on it's own car, ripping out the electrical wiring in it's own walls, and acting like it's normal.
They haven't started pouring gasoline around the place yet, but I fully expect them to soon and then they'll start playing with matches.
They're pushing diversity in major corporations qhich is destroying their productivity and marketing.
Hollywood is pushing wokeness which is destroying the US propaganda machine. Other countries look at Hollywood like it's a joke as do American citizens.
Evey system is breaking. US recruiting is at the lowest level it has ever been and falling.
The irony of it is that podcast is sponsored with " the plunge " which give me a lot of shame because I can not afford it and feel like I am not cool.
ps : I am being ironic because I love Richroll podcast... But I am still a broken man :-)
All talk and little action, reactionary winners whining about lost losers. Pointing the finger is all the elites with resources do without attempting to lift a finger to actually help build lost souls. It's all so tiresome & predictable. This guy isn't much different.
@NuanceOverDogma I agree, he hightlights the issue and his solution is to just pull yourself up by your boot straps.
Which was a phrase that was supposed to mean it's literally impossible to do. Instead boomers use it to describe what millennial are suppose to do when they're faced with literally an impossible situation which is why more and more of them, the smartest who can see the equation clearly, are self deleting.
He means well, but he provides no long term solutions to an obviously systemic problem where there simply is not enough opportunity.
They polled American males age 16 to 36 about their American dreams and the majority said their dream is to LEAVE AMERICA.
When every media system is telling saying, All men are rapists, women need men like a fish needs a bicycle, women treat men worse than you'd treat a stray Dog, and the systems themselves are designed to disenfranchise and destroy men.
Why would they stay? We're going to start seeing brain drain as the best and brightest men leave america, and this guy is too much of a mid-wit to see it.
@@hexadecimal5236 He benefits from the system & attacks all who question it. He is a fraud who pretends to be concerned about lower classes but in reality he is in the cult that loathes them.
This guy points out the exact reason I became a teacher as a male. People emasculate me all the time for it, and I'm going to be making pretty much no money after rent, bills, and food. But being there for kids without a dad and being a good male role model in their lives is worth all of that in my opinion.
Dude stop being emasculated and just quit. You’re wasting your life, you think those children’s fathers are good people? How about their mothers? You’re not anyone’s servant man, those kids will grow up to be morally conflicted people like anyone else. It’s not worth it.
The average male h8tes anything that will create a healthy stable life for himself and others. Males are self destructing and want to take as many males they can with them. They don't actually want "solutions". The average male is entitled and is perfectly fine with women doing the work that they don't want to do. The average male proves they aren't leaders. They don't deserve a wife and children, because they don't like either and refuse to provide anything for them. Looking to other males as examples is usually pointless. You are a better example than the average guy.
@@richardsteiner45 I wouldn’t say I’m wasting my life. I think even if I only end up making a minor positive impact in one kid’s life throughout my entire teaching career, all of the stress and poor monetary compensation would still be worth it in my opinion. We can agree to disagree, and maybe there are better ways to impact kids’ lives, but somebody has to be in my position, and I am content at night knowing that I am given the opportunity to make a real positive impact on the youth. Sorry for the long response, lol.
Fight the fight man, im with ya. It is the main reason I Coach Youth Sports.
@@richardsteiner45 You have no idea how many teachers impacted me greatly in my life.
It's so rare to come across individuals as accomplished as Prof. G that are willing to talk about their flaws, share their failures and spread the wisdom in the hard lessons learned throughout their life and that they do it genuinely for the betterment of society. Typically their egos get in the way. I appreciate him and his message so much. I try to distill as much as I can to my benefit raising two young boys in this challenging environment.
My favorite part is his acknowledging the advantages he got that are now gone. He's not doing what most successful people try to convince themselves and others 'i did it all by myself' and telling the truth. He got cheap, accessible college. He got an affordable housing market, doors opened bc he's a white man. He gets massive tax breaks. And he's saying how we can fix it
He uses self-deprecation as permission slip to (inaccurately) disparage the older generations. It is effective but transparent.
This guy is just another red pill guy but delivering it in a boring way 😂 truth is, no one cares. If you're a loner incel, you will remain that way and probably unalive yourself.. And still no one will care. He's an out of touch boomer.
He points at men to get better but doesn't ever address women's expectations set by marketing which is ultra sky high and completely unrealistic. He's an out of touch rich privileged white man mixing some truth with wrong assumtions.
18 minute mark made me cry. I was 15 without a dad and just a alcoholic mom and step parent. this 27 year old man who was disabled and two young kids took me in and fed me, told me to finish school, and actually just cared. No hook, no angle, just love. thank you Eric Abron for being my hero and thank you Scott for saying that about a father figure who isnt your blood.
We need more Eric’s in this world
Who was it that propagandized their hate against michael jackson & the catholic church again? bc i don’t remember them putting their own dirt on the media. in fact i don’t remember anyone ever proving incidence of grape happened more in the catholic church than anywhere else. everybody already forgets jerry sandusky, but everyone remembers the catholic church. seems like an op. anti-catholic hate. if you want to bring people to your side you have to clean up your own house, you fools.
by the way russia (and russian orthodox) has been at war with the catholic church for 2000 years-food for thought
This tiny snippet of your life made me cry. A father or father figure is so important!
Three cheers for Eric Abron! Hip hip hurrah!
Guest: "Social media tells young people they're absolute failures for not owning luxury items"
Ad break: "Consider buying a sauna"
Satire is meaningless in our era. It's like living in Robocop.
lmfao they did just straight up advertise like a hot tub didnt they 😂 well watever pays to get the message heard
Just got the that part while going through comments 😂😂
He still has bills to pay, sad as it undoubtedly is.
@@NikkLiberos We love capitalism, don't we, folks? Truly an unflawed, unmarred system. Too bad Earth's collective human governance can do nothing to bridge the gap of their own making, very apparently. Good stuff.
@@tweex1can you please define "capitalism" for me? Is it static? Did Adam Smith invent it? Did it exist before him? Has it changed since Smith? If it has or hasn't, does that mean anything? Seriously. I'm confused.
I don't think I've listened to a more candid, stone cold truth filled conversation around this subject. This episode needs to be shown in schools or something.
If they showed me this at school I'd hurl a chair at my teacher lmao
Completely agree that this conversation is important. I'm really hoping that our collective societies can course correct in a more positive direction. I don't know how that might happen but spreading this information is a good start.
Go to a developing nation and people are hooking up like they did in the US 100 years ago. These conversations should focus more on the fact that people in the most technologically and economically advanced societies simply have less and less of a reason to have children. They are needed less and less for survival.
It's so, so good. Thank you, Rich for having this conversation.
You're absolutely correct!
I appreciate that Scott recognizes the majority of his success is based on the timing of his life.
Like everyone of every generation, you deal with the circumstances presented to you at the time.
Poker was easy 20 years ago.
Same as now, 95% of long term players lost money, 5% made money.
That’s one of the few traits about him that are admirable - humility. That fact that he recognizes how much easier life was in the 70’s-90’s AS A BOOMER himself, is applause worthy.
On the other hand, his solutions are waaaaay off and as ineffective as putting a bandaid on a gangrene.
No thanks, Scott. We’d rather grab popcorn and let it all burn. We know the problem is way bigger than just “empowering men more”, or “male role models”.
It's really based on luck, & mostly the luck of being born a talented male in the modern U.S.
@@snakegriffin4928 He has HALF the $OLUTiON...
We need to empower men more... and we NEED to subdue women more. It is just in female human nature to run wild until they destroy everything unless they are kept in check.
I'm not suggesting we become barbarians like muslims are with regards to women... but women DO NEED numerous, clear and $TRiCT boundaries for society to function and flourish. THi$. i$. iNDi$PUTABLE.
@@scottsherman5262 in the US? My guy that's the aspiration of every spermling bludgeoning their head against the meat wall of the ovum. 😂
This guy is hitting the nail on the head with so many topics. I’m 34, navy veteran, college graduate. I really felt I was struggling so much and had every type of vice you can imagine up until my thirties. Now I cleaned myself up, I have a decent job and very little debt but it still always feels like there’s that cloud hanging over me.
Regarding the could...I highly recommend IFS therapy/paradigm...there is an episode on this channel about it...where don't have to be controlled by these clouds...you are inherently worthy. Good on ya!
Same age same feeling brother we gotta be strong 💪🏻
Better give your nation away to immigrants, in cel!
As if people only oppose many of these things for the reasons he's stated. He's assigning cause without a true understanding of the world and society.
I hear you brother, the best thing is just keep doing your thing. Stay focused on yourself and your health. Be a gentlemen to others and care for yourself
Thank you for your service 🙏🏼 I think it shows strength to admit challenges but also work hard to address them
“Child of an immigrant mother who lived and died a secretary… but everyday she told me I was wonderful, and that stuck with me” it really only takes one person
Same as my own ma. But we had my dad too who kept my feet on the ground. They were together all their lives. More people did that back then I think. I’m 52 this may btw.
@@T1tusCr0w my mom always told me to dream big and that I could be anything I put my mind too, I didn’t have a father and I’d agree with you social norms have changed people don’t stay together for the kids sake
This is why I believe in the “found family” I had a terrible family always told me I was worthless, useless, pathetic excuse for a man. When my parent divorced I got to raise myself from 6th grade and I got to choose my mentors and my life was changed forever as soon as I stopped looking at my parent to parent me and instead anymore who would help
@@colecarmichael5724 mentorship is dead. It stood at the intersection of community and organized labor, where it was gunned down by yuppies.
@@colecarmichael5724 There are no kids who are "worthless" Only Adults. And they were made that way by getting told & and listening to some PoS who moulded them when they couldn’t fight back 😔
With the dumpster-fire that is the intersection between the internet, podcasts, and male identity, I am extremely grateful that I stumbled upon this video. What a great nuanced and thoughtful conversation. Thank you, Rich. Thank you, Scott.
yes!
Do you mean there is a general attack on masculinity online by feminists or left wing media?
The level of admiration, intellectual exchange, vulnerability and mutual respect is something to be lauded here. One of many brilliant conversations helmed by Rich. Thank you gentlemen for making the time to share this dialogue. Peace and more peace.
You know it's never mentioned but reading, protects men. There are so many great stories with fabulous masculine men. It really does give aspiration.
I agree
I know a lot of people here will disagree with me but growing up playing some video games with really good stories and masculine men changed my outlook on life entirely. I am incredibly attached to the Xenoblade series because it speaks about this stuff so much
Reading is Essential ! Learn it Do it !
you got any suggestions for books like that?
@soumakirimoto2195 I agree for sure.
welding saved my life, after high school i was so lost and knew i wasn’t going to college until i started welding. got me male role models, taught me a VERY underrated skill, and gave me something to be proud of.
Brother I’ve been welding for 5 years now out of high school. Pay is still shit, can’t afford a place of my own. You really want to be welding for the rest of your working life? The next 30 years? I sure as hell don’t. Every welder I know is addicted to nicotine and cigarettes and looks 15 years older than they are. I’m in GA and 23.50 an hour is not shit here. Tell me more about how you think welding is so great? How does your body feel at the end of the day? Do you go to the gym? Do you take care of your body?
Welding used to make me proud too. But once you realize the work you’re proud of can’t pay for a family or house you won’t be as proud.
"the ultimate expression of masculinity is getting involved in the life of a boy that isn't yours" - this couldn't be more true. Now that I'm older, I realize the profound effects my coaches in sports had on me. Having a male role model who isn't your father is just so important, and I think it is what's lacking in many boys' lives. It reminds me of Joseph Campbell's idea that there needs to be a secondary father in mens' lives - a father by choice - whether a coach, minister, teacher, drill sergeant, that you almost put yourself into apprenticeship of - think karate kid, etc.
Ha. I was thinking Karate Kid as well.
Jordan Peterson seems to be that for many many boys, I don't know if that's good enough, he might be like the mcdonalds of male figures, but he did help me personally.
35 is too late to find one.
Catholicism
Question, what does a male coach offer that a female coach cannot? I ask because a female coach got me started in bodybuilding/strength training not any of the men. I had reservations taking a lifting class as I was a weak runt so she and I met at the fitness center while another class was in session. She took a long time showing me the machines, the movements, explaining the concepts, providing me encouragement and answering my questions. I took her 1st class where she was training on the machines. I was fortunate to be in her last class to 25 plus years later.
She normally wouldn't teach that class because she was the head of the department but they couldn't find anyone for the summer break. I let her know on her last day that because of her I had decades of fitness in my life that she was directly responsible for. It was my last time there too as I had maxed out all of the equipment and already migrated to another gym. I put on 80-90 bs of lean muscle and was in the top 5 strongest men at my new gym. That was not an easy feat given they were all "enhanced" and I wasn't. To provide a easy reference I could lift a washer with one hand and picked up a dryer with a bear hug and took it to the curb. Not bad for a runt.
Side note, the male coach there would constantly mess with me because he was jealous that I maxed out the machines and he could only do about 70% of max. He was an ex college football player that had a wing named after him. I have been lifting for a long time and there are only two trainers that I would ever recommend both just happen to be women. My favorite was 5" 4" and she was the personal trainer for the local SWAT department. I don't think one can be more masculine that group of men and she was the leader of the pack.
This is a national conversation that’s loooong overdue
the other side doesnt want to have it. And they'll do everything to avoid it until the plumbing stops working, the grid goes down, gas stations are empty, etc.
It’s men like Scott that produced the feminized male culture we have today and now try to glom on to the predictable backlash. The famous adage tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are - with friends like men hater Tara Swisher who needs enemies. If you truly care about men’s plight, listen to Jordan Peterson.
I posted to advise listeners to listen to Jordan Peterson instead, and my comments are getting censored
@@mikeb.7279 Ironic
@@mikeb.7279 here's the thing, I far prefer Peterson's lectures over this gentleman. That being said Scott is also bringing things to light that need touching on. Why would you suggest people funnel themselves into one channel of information? That's something that Peterson actively calls against. The future is going to be a joint effort and we NEED to start learning to talk with people we disagree with without just writing them off.
Gold. Told my boys to watch this to understand me. When I'm dead, watch it again.
Scott has quickly become one of my favorite authors and social critique writers out there. I love his no nonsense approach. There has been a huge gap and need for true and ruthless social commentary since the passing of comedians George Carlin and Bill Hicks. In this time of crises in America, we need strong voices like Scott that just tell it like it is no matter how uncomfortable we all get hearing it. This stuff must be said as awareness is the first step to solving any big problems.
Every man should listen to this regardless of age. I deeply appreciated this conversation. We need more of this.
This is feminist rhetoric being slightly rebranded to uncritical people/
both men and women, the problem is both lack eachothers understanding.
This guy is a fraud
@@oraz. Care to unpack your criticism of feminism? I feel like a lot of men don't truly understand it.
@@tweex1the fundamental criticism of feminism is that is calls for rights without responsibility. The right to vote, but not be drafted for example. The only systemic advantages in modern society are geared towards women, yet feminists continue to gaslight women into the victim mentality. Feminism has transformed into full blown misandry. I.e. "we don't need to man" culture.
Man, just feel like I’m gonna cry when Scott talking about about young men issues while the rest of society ignored my fellas
Seems like he's the only one who cares about us ❤
Scott is truly a one of one. It's rare that you have a successful person who isn't afraid to admit that alongside their lust for working hard, that fortune, good luck, "blessings", timing, etc. have also played a pivotal role in helping them to attain their status. Scott is a role model that many of us should aspire to emulate and be more like. We all have to acknowledge the people who are not in our circles, not in our bubbles, and speak up for those of whom don't have a voice because we live in a society, and society breaks down when inequality persists indefinitely.
Yeah I appreciate his humility here. So many wealthy successful people have a sort of God complex around how they view their achievements. There is a grossly inflated sense of superiority around their abilities and very few admit that a large part of their success was plain old luck. We all need luck in life and luck takes many forms.
Of course their hard work and skills should not be overlooked but there is always more to it that just that. If everybody who was hard working and talented got rich there would be nowhere near the level of wealth disparity in the world.
@@thru_and_thru The actually smart ones will understand that it's all just luck: the traits you are born with, the experiences you get to live from the moment you are born, the way your brain processes those experiences etc. None of these are your merit.
@@Vlad-bs1js And we should all take personal enjoyment from our successes, but never laud it over others. By all means, you do you-get after it, get that green, whatever you're grinding-just stay humble.
@@tweex1 Enjoying your success was not the topic of the conversation
@@Vlad-bs1js Oh, sorry, ought we not? 🧐 You just pontificating to pontificate or what?
Thank you, gentlemen.
As a divorced and childless Gen X man, I see my purpose on this planet is to help the younger people navigate this adventure and survive - hopefully thrive as well. That is why I am proud to teach at a community college. I've had many careers but most of them were selfish pursuits that were soulless. I've learned exponentially more from tragedies and failures than any successes. It has given me wisdom that has no value unless I share it. The young people who show up to learn at a community college need adults like us more than ever. For many of my students, I am one of the only truly gritty men in their lives. I don't just talk about service, I live it. I sacrifice daily to serve broke, young adults to the best of my ability. I take my roll very seriously and the thoughts you both share help me find clarity and to not feel so alone. Your honest heartfelt insights gave me a good boost on this sunny spring Saturday in 2024.
Such a relatable comment. I'm also a childless Gen X professor at a very working-class university. A handful of lovely long-term monogamous relationships somehow never led to making my own family. I used to think of teaching as a paycheck and way to fund my creative work. Now, I regard it more as a calling to serve, particularly when young people become ever more lost.
As a Zillennial, thank you! Although few men are courageous and selfless enough to take on the responsibility you have. I can equally say that I remember a few men & women who were my teachers and saw I needed guidance. Particularly a teacher who would buy me comic's in exchange for the completion of my coursework and good grades on tests. During that period of my life at home my parents fought all the time and my Dad wouldn't give me the time of day so I could tell him about what I learned at school. My macho Dad was also an alcoholic. Never once did anyone take interest in my proper development as a kid. Except for a few people. I learned almost everything myself, how to shave, ride a bike, swim, read, etc... into adulthood. it was because of those few people that I learned I was capable, capable enough to overcome challenges & learning obstacles and achieve my goals. Not going to lie though, most gen X males were macho - toxic masculinity type kind of men throughout my life like I remember this one college chemistry teacher who gaslighted me in front of the whole class. When I would raise my hand and asked questions. 1 time I asked about methane being a greenhouse gas and affecting the climate potentially. I found out He didn't like me and would put me down by lying to me and telling me Ihe didn't know what I was talking about and it didn't exist. He was gaslighting me at 19 and he was in his mid 40s. At the time I thought it was because I ask too many questions but now That I'm older in my late twenties. I realize it's because, I didn't fit his ideal of how a young man is supposed to be or look like and it threatened his ego. So he had to put me down and he didn't care if it was the expense of my education. Which was sad because he should have not been a professor holding a PHD & use it to feed his ego. It's crazy because he would say there's no such thing as stupid questions except for when I asked them.
Please talk to other men your age. Toxic masculinity is a huge problem.
Right on! in many ways. Yeah we used to tribal, nowadays the fierce individualism is revealing its cracks.
@@BruderAdrian There was a major shift in personality style between Gen X and Millenials. I am not saying it is right but a lot of what Millenials take as Gen X being mean or disliking them is just the way Gen X, men in particular, talk,. I am at the younger edge of Gen X and I had older Gen X and Boomers as college professors and they were all like that at the beginning of every semester. They were pushing your buttons, trying to push you out of the childhood high school mindset. They were always much nicer and more like friends by the end of the semester when the class that had started out as 60 - 70 was whittled down to ~15 students. That's why they did it. They knew that 3/4 of the class was going to say it was too hard and quit. Pushing on you to see if you'll stand up for yourself is just a Boomer & Gen X personality trait. They really aren't doing it out of malice but I get it that they should recognize that the generations don't behave the same...well to be fair, Gen Z really doesn't have any qualms about standing up, but again different generations. I stopped arguing with my Gen Z daughter when she was around 17 because she is far more ruthless than I am.
@@mercedesb2299 thanks I appreciate your insight. Perhaps you're right although I won't lie I pushed back too lol He ran a study with students in Organic Chem and I was the only one in General Chemistry for stem majors that participated in the vape juice study lol Just to annoy him more or so I thought. Haha with what you said in mind it makes me think that perhaps he played me right into being more involved somehow. Interesting 🤔 perspective.
I don’t hate those who are economically, romantically and financially better off than me. I hate those who are better off than me and are working hard to make my frustrating life more miserable.
Spoken like someone who truly understands that the jealous conspirators spread rumors that people with potential are schizos who think people are "out to get them" because they know if they don't keep people down people will surpass their economic, romantic, and financial standing 😂Its the losers who think life is all about game theory who hate to see other people be more successful than they are, particularly if they know deep down they didn't truly earn their success and the person they are jealous of who has the potential to be successful has earned everything. Lots of people who were born into wealth literally spend tons of money to try and ruin the life of people they are jealous of, its just a fact of life. Then if they realize they can't stop the person becoming successful, they will try and offer help after tons of sabotage so at least they can try and make it look like they had a hand in the other person's success, when in reality they mostly had a hand in holding the other person back. You have to ask, "what do most people born with everything a person could ever want or need actually do with their excess wealth?" They mostly try and stop other people from surpassing them in wealth and power by using their wealth and power. Its that simple.
Preach
Yes.
At this point, anyone who is well enough off that they could help, and chooses not to help, is part of the problem. It's not enough not to be making the problem worse. If somebody isn't trying to make it better, WHY NOT.
Also, a sensible country would be banning those goddam hookup apps, not just tiktok. Hookup apps aren't going to help people find a spouse.
@@tealkerberus748 Exactly what Scott Galloway mentioned in his recent Ted Talk.
Too many people are looking for ways to "increase my compensation while decreasing my accountability." That is why all of America is in rapid collapse.
as we’re watching a podcast talking about how young men are broke, depressed, and poor it cuts to a commercial selling $10,000 ice baths that can help us with our depression 🤣 I can’t stop laughing
Read the room eh lol.
We’re fucked as a culture. Just another day in a country ruled by capitalism and consumerist garbage
Out ofeverything that was presented on this podcast, this was the one thing you felt was most important to comment on. 👍🏽
Man’s gotta eat, let some top 1%’s buy a few so the rest of us can enjoy his podcast
@@ZL0WBEEpretty sure both these guys are in the top 1% lol
13:02 "I can prove to all of us that 90% of our son are not in the top 10%" that is such a well thought out sentence.
😂
I always thought that 80% of men are not in the top 20% but now thinking about what he said it all makes sense.
But it is just patronizing comment from an upwardly mobile, privileged white man. You can say what you want, but the fact is that if you are a white, you have incalculable advantages seen & unseen. "90%" of white sons are all in the 10% by default.
I graduated HS in Kentucky of 2020, The single most important thing I got out of my ENTIRE education was the fact that the school was a career ready school and still had Shop/Tool/ROTC/Business/IT Ect. I got a job and was working full time Senior year of Highschool during peak lockdown and I didnt have school work the last half of my senior year so I worked and made money and it really set me up.
The rest of my experience in school felt like brain rot. Especially in highschool.
Well i was depressed and alone my entire 20s no jobs no friends no girlfriend no reason to be alive its a miracle im still alive. In my 30s now im aiming to finally get my paycheck from a job and mabye even my first realtionship
Go for it.
Keep working brother, it aint easy. I have a quote from Jordan Peterson on my desk that inspires me every day:
"Get your act together, tell the truth, work hard, concentrate on something for a year or two and you can be a world-beater."
So proud of you! You got this young man💕
@@Mary-il6zz Thanks for your support that means a lot to me
Good on you man. I could say a lot, but I just want to say good on you.
I couldn’t agree more as a woman, a mother and a psych nurse. Men will help save men. I’ve said it before and I’ll continue to say it and support the men that are doing something about it. Thank you both. 🙏🏼
Then men won't be saved. Our economy has empowered women. If they are not using that power to benefit men in general, not just themselves and a few top men, then it will not be enough.
Did they actually say that? Because they edited this to look like he said women can be masculine too and I stopped listening. Honestly this doesn't deserve my attention if that was the message and that's how they edited this.
Affirmative Action
I’m coming at it more as males mental health aspect. But I believe he said that comment as well. Everyone does have the capability to possess both feminine and male characteristics. I think it’s a confusing time for both young adults right now in general. But we do need more balanced and emotionally stable men who can model how to be “ideal” humans, successful people in society and when and how it’s appropriate to interact with women. I think women can teach men these things, but it’s better understood when it comes from another male (if that makes sense). Men suffer just as much as women in different ways, and the stigma is not fully eradicated yet.
@@jessicaboltze
You get affirmative action on my dime.
When you listen to Scott talk you can really hear the passion, sincerity, anguish, just about every emotion pour out of him. When people like this to run for presidency not the feces that usually we have to choose from
As a 30 year old man finally starting to get it together, I agree. Lack of a strong male father-figure/mentor is detrimental to our growth. Reminds me of a song lyric: “be kind and keep a smile. keep your head up and try to find a friend or a child and encourage their life”
*single mother homes* are a disease on society
Us men gatekeep this is a big issue, American society has trained us to push down guys around us and defend what women and wealth we have gotten. Finding a decent role model as a guy who has achieved what we are going for that isnt going to do an Andrew Tate and sell us BS to make money or ignore us is tough.
@@Wafflemarine22 we just gotta be teachers to each other and be that change, one lesson at a time.
@@bodhiu493 hell yea one of my favorites
Sob story. Get your act together. Geez poor bubba!
You’re my favorite podcaster, inquisitively curious, open, well prepared, interesting, hard working and it shows. Thanks for keeping this free in apple podcast where I prefer to listen to your podcasts , I hugely appreciate it and hope you continue to offer this for free!
100% resonate with this. I put myself in debt for a college education to become a teacher. I gave up that career after 7 years. Why? My profession wasn't affording me the income or time to start a family. At pay below 50k a year and a working week between 55-60 hours, I was overworking myself while barely paying my own expenses. When my grandparents became ill at the same time, I had no time to help my mother take care of them. The 40-hour work week wasn't just about pay. It freed working men and women to meet, keep a home, raise a family, and take care of each other.
Things a princess would say
@@forgottenfuryan I have no love or empathy for princesses, yet I agree with the very sad truth that teacher pay, worldwide, is a JOKE. Oh, we get summers off? Yes, with no pay and consider ourselves very lucky to find three months of work risking our lives, literally, as temporary slave workers in steel mills, coal mines, etc. Been there, done that. No thank you and no more. My father played that game for decades and died a hopeless, sickly, loveless workaholic. I have decided not to emulate his sorry example, although in my early days, I was on the same ruthless road to ill health and spiritual desolation. Work to LIVE. That is my creed these days. Any further comments would be superfluous.
@@angelomercure3747
Teacher pay? Just be a tutor in the summer
@@forgottenfuryan I could Iive relatively well on summer temporary steelworker and coal miner pay but certainly not on temporary tutorial pay. Hopefully, you will never be faced with such traumatic economic choices in which your health will be put at considerable risk in trade for filthy lucre.
I joined the military right out of high school. Served for four years in 3rd Ranger Battalion. Got out, went to school at Colorado State University. Dropped out after half a semester and proceeded to blow all of my money on a joy ride around the US for a couple months.
I remember looking down at my bank account one day and realizing I had about one more month of partying before the show ended. I recognized I basically had no money, I had some cool stories from the army and a few good friends, and due to my background in the infantry I had essentially no marketable skills, employment opportunities or dating prospects. At that moment I was faced with a choice - go back to school, which I hated the sound of, or rejoin the army and crawl back to my unit with my tail between my legs, which I hated the sound of even more.
So I went back to school. I’m a year away from graduating now with a specialization in regenerative agriculture and permaculture design and I’m planning on attending a Master’s level program for landscape architecture in the fall of 2025.
The journey from that moment of realization to now has been the most challenging, yet equally rewarding experience of my life. And everything these two are saying is true fellas. Once you get your shit together and have a vision for your life (that’s the big one - know where you’re going, and why) you will be tripping over high quality women.
It’s sort of a sad state of affairs that simply having your shit together puts you in the top 10% of young men, but that’s where we are.
There’s literally no excuses that are worth listening to. Get in shape, map out a vision for your life, and make meaningful progress towards your goals. If you want to go a step further find a way to connect with a higher power, get sober, and find a sense of purpose in service to the world. You’re only alive for 100 years at best. That means you have roughly 80 years to make the world as beautiful as possible for your children and grandchildren.
The playbook for success right now is exceedingly simple, the hard part is simply making the choice to change your life and following through with that choice through your free will decisions everyday.
Well said!
Good luck with the graduation amigo, and graduate school!
I followed nearly the same path as you. Life was hard. I changed my life, outlook, goals, and vision and now life is much, much easier.
Well done you for taking accountability for the life you are creating
I don’t know what to say to guys that have completely talked themselves out of even trying to talk to women or date .. there are entire channels aimed at talking about how terrible everything is for young men . I see more guys reaching for victimhood and that is disturbing
I didn't have a Mom these guys could really understand. Growing up around a vulnerable narcissist does the opposite and teaches that nothing matters to your mother except for herself and her victimhood. She broke my fathers soul but he still tried to mold me into something worthwhile. The failure to achieve that is all in my hands.
Yea they glorify single moms when 80% of them are not good at all...
Same here
Vulnerable narcissist. That's a concept I needed to name many people I know and see.
When he spoke about his former alcoholism, being 25 and doing the exact same shit. It gives me hope that maybe. Just maybe. Tomorrow will be better.
The conversation about mentorship and masculine role models is everything I’ve been wanting to hear from men. Thank you for helping restore my faith in humanity in a way.
ever since i was a little girl and saw how horribly my male peers both treated each other, and the girls (including me) in their lives while growing up ive always hoped that one day guys would wake up and stop trying to be like their fathers and grandfathers so much. Its not so much that they are men, but the men from past generations are typically not men you want to look up to. The cycle of abuse is an incredibly easy one to fall into, i imagine its even easier for males to fall into it when they live in a society that is designed from top to bottom to trick them with their own insecurities and desires. what more people need to understand is that even if you find yourself a part of that cycle, its never too late to try and better yourself. When men are taught emotions and empathy are weakness, it tricks them into ignoring their own unconscious needs, and when they arent taught how to cope with emotions they also do not fully understand, its easy to fall victim to unhealthy coping mechanisms. Sadly, that cycle takes some to violence. Women are not immune to that as well, but in western society we’ve throughout the decades have spent plenty of time ridiculing feminine traits that regurgitating anything that’s been said would be stale. Men havent really had to self reflect in this way before, i think its partially due to the internet.
Scott’s attitudes largely reflect my own and how I was raised by my dad. I hope to leverage the good fortune my wife and I had to instill the same priorities of empathy, love, and social cooperation into our son.
The fact that you have an opinion on whom young men should view as role models is part of the problem.
Women are the ones that made male spaces illegal. Relationship statistics are at all time lows.
A perfect marriage or relationship is an illusion; there's no universal playbook for making them work. What's effective for one couple may not apply to another. Nevertheless, I've come to understand that there's always a solution to be found. Half a decade ago, my wife and I faced such trials in our marriage that divorce seemed inevitable. Yet, through perseverance and determination, we navigated through the rough waters and emerged stronger, reunited, and more resilient
There is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without him, I love him so much. wish I can get him back I can do anything to have him back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is Shelly renee white
This is helpful, I will look her up online right now...Thanks
You wont regret it
Did you have to pander to her and give up your hobbies and friends to make it work? Did you have to work less?
Women are interminably “not happy.” They’ll always find something to say you need to change.
Guys, don’t do it. Stand your ground on being who she fell in love with. You both will be better off whether it works out or not.
US Army Basic Training got my ass in line, and good NCO's kept me in line .even through 4 tours in Iraq.. then picking up snowboarding and mtn biking after i was medically retired ... made healthy friends and social connections that will last me for life... now as i learn late in life to lean on others as a man... i begin to realize i can do anything .... mentorship staying active, and social circles are everything for men!!!
Your purpose doesn't matter. Every person and circumstance you come across, will attempt to give you a new purpose. Real purpose comes from understanding yourself, and learning life lessons.
These kinds of inspirational conversations are the reason I look forward to Monday mornings! Thank you both!
I love how they respect each others views. And ask questions instead of assuming .
Galloway is saint for how hard he is advocating for young boys and men. Thanks.
Well he has nothing else to do
@@ellengarcia4041 Except make millions and millions of dollars with his books, investments, popular podcasts. Wonder what you’re doing? What channel are all your amazing accomplishments discussed? Since you judged maybe you should share?
Yes and as opposed to the Manosphere and MAGA he is doing it from a left leaning perspective.
Getting high can foster perspective. Perspective is an important tool to validate a moment in time. Staying high erases the contrast. As he stated ‘it’s hard to read the label when you’re inside the bottle’.
I'm Brazilian but hearing this at only 11:20 minutes I'm already feeling a bit better. Nice to hear there are motives beyond my control to my failure.
As a 25 Year old who didn't have any sort of apprenticeship support growing up, and also all of my friends who didn't have such a thing. I think it's very important and I appreciate you talking about this.
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This has given me a lot of confidence in how I have lived my life. I'm not all the way there yet, a man still at home at 29 and single. But, I'm on a good track in my career, I'm in touch with my emotions and masculinity, and a plethora of wonderful friends. This is such an important conversation for us to be having, thank you too so much😊😊
Beautiful, needed conversation. So great to see men, making themselves vulnerable, working to heal themselves, their sons, and the other men around them. That is strength.
This is my all-time favorite RRP episode out of the hundreds I have heard. Every single RRP episode is super interesting, so the bar is high. I have shared this with many friends, educators, coaches, our kids, and my son's college lacrosse teammates. Scott Galloway addresses the many reasons why we all should pay attention to how boys and men struggle. Supporting boys and men benefits all genders. What a great conversation between two emotionally courageous men who openly share their fears and doubts while acknowledging their privilege and success. Thanks, fellas. I have listened to this three times.
I grew up in a poor hood with plenty of drugs and some violence. I’m a chemist in my 40s with a bachelor in engineering and happy life experiences.
From my perspective, this is the key…
-good parents
-curiosity for science and learning
-elementary school
Elementary school will define the rest of your life. If the kid is interested in learning and his friends are relatively good, he’s 80% there. The rest will just follow.
I have somehow gotten sucked into the r/GenZ thread on Reddit and it is full of GenZ "men". I am 49, so it feels weird to me to call them men, but they are in their mid-twenties now, so they are men. That thread is heartbreaking and frustrating because it is almost exclusively GenZ men, no GenZ women, and they are absolutely miserable. For whatever reason, the Reddit algorithm continuously puts it in front of Gen X, so there are a fair amount of Gen X men & women in that thread at any given time, genuinely trying to understand what went wrong, and why these guys are so freaking depressed in their 20s. For Gen X as a collective, our 20s were the peak of hedonistic bliss. The problem seems to be the difference in perspectives on life. GenX did a LOT of f**ing up in our 20s but we didn't have any "rules" telling us that we had squandered our entire lives and we were going to die destitute and alone. Gen Z is the opposite, the overarching problem is the massive amount of rules they have for EVERYTHING. They have set up 1000 ways to fail in even the most mundane tasks because they have a right way for everything. If something happens and they don't hit one of these thousands of completely arbitrary benchmarks, that's it, it's all over, you pissed it away and there is no hope. There is no convincing them that they could be happy if they would stop judging each other and themselves and just live, embrace the best they can do for right now to pay the bills and keep pushing toward their passion.
My dream was always to be a writer. I didn't break into writing and turn it into a career until I was in my late 30s. Between graduating high school and achieving my dream I was a stripper, a bartender, and a veterinary surgical tech. I was an alcoholic, and you could probably say, drug addict at various points along the way too. It never crossed my mind that any of those things should preclude me from being a writer one day, and they didn't. I also raised a daughter by myself. She is GenZ but she doesn't buy into the benchmarks and rules. At 26 years old she has graduated nursing school, worked as a nurse, decided she hated it, joined the military (over my protests - I am much further left than my daughter), and quit the military because she hates rules as much as I do (I knew that one would be short-lived), got married, bought a house, had two children and is loving being a stay at home mom, and writing for a couple commercial blogs online. She has no idea what she wants to do for a profession but she has a paying job, her husband has a solid blue-collar job that pays their bills. I am not worried about her.
Elementary school > especially not putting your kid into it.
Too bad the U.S. government clearly does not adequately value public education as slews of kids go by the wayside and then turn into aimless, despondent adults. It's baffling to me how little we as Americans, and humans, really, undervalue the concept of cultivation. Cultivating young minds, creativity and critical thinking, hell, even in a literal sense nature, helpful infrastructure, etc.... it's like, once a human has achieved some modicum of success, the part in their brain that is like, "Hey, we ought to help and support others-" just... turns OFF.
@@tweex1 I don't think that's quite right. We really really do value cultivating the next generation. Politicians and media have spent all of my lifetime talking about how they're investing in children, kids are the future, etc. And every parent is perfectly willing to put themselves through 20+ years of suffering so their kids can have a brighter future.
The problem is we're being scammed. We're outsourcing all of the education to "experts" based on what we're told is their past performance. But the experts are not really experts in anything, they're just academics. And then the experts are further handicapped by the administrative assemblies that have cropped up around them to usurp all these free money we're pouring into our kids, to the point that actual teachers and educators get a tiny bit of the total and the rest goes to administrators, massive building projects, pet research, and especially SPORT BALL.
Man, I think of how lucky I was to have an early boomer Dad (b 1949) and that I was born so late (1995). I just let him lead me, he was always there and gave me great advice. He's been gone for 5 years now, but his lessons are constantly there. He was firm but kind, and that combination just made it so that I could tackle just about any hardship even after he was gone. He gave me tasks not for labor but to show that I was needed despite being by far the youngest. I never felt like a burden I felt valued through the work he assigned and talking to him after it was over with a meal and a beer are memories I'll never forget.
Men aren't mistaking anything for what it is. Social media is not our friend, but it's free and available when our friend stop coming around. We aren't mistaking porn for romance, we just can't compete in the dating pool. We aren't giving up life and becoming depressed, we are stripped of our needs and finances and fill that hole with artifical garbage. Reddit isn't causing depression, depressed people seek out community, unfortunately it becomes an echo chamber for depression to fester.
Bruh just go outside
It's impossible not to mistake something you're viewing over and over again for real life no matter how often you tell yourself otherwise. There's always going to be a part of the brain that believes it and makes judgements upon the real world based on the visuals it constantly consumes and telling yourself you know it's not real doesn't make a single lick of difference. Anyone who views porn regularly will be mistaking it for real life despite everything.
And take this note, many females have not had a drop in sexual activity. So If you go to your 30's without dating which is increasingly common (since one reason they say young men can wait until they're 50 and still have kids) you are pretty much a virgin that has to "impress" a girl who has had more partners than you've had dates. If a man asks how to make the physical side a relationship better they'll shame the man for only being concerned about sex. The only place to go at that point is porn, and its nowhere near going to tell you anything you need to know but its a desperation move to convince the guy he's trying 'something'. Being 12 and being shocked the first time you see boobs is funny. Being 35 and being shocked the first time you see boobs is sad.
This is the most powerful and accurate speech on the state of the country that I have heard in years
I really like this guy .. first guy I’ve seen in awhile to accurately portray classic liberalism .. witty.. doesn’t hold punches .. but compassionate and empathetic .. perfect blend to raise accountable young men ..
lmao how is classic liberalism “compassionate and empathetic”?
@@sverdrup4321 Yeah he is definitely a progressive liberal through and through. Hard to hold it against him though when so few of them are even willing to address the issues hes addressing, even if he alienates the people suffering with those issues in the process through his adherence to the politics that got us here in the first place.
@@sverdrup4321 bc it holds the values of the enlightenment .. where people are judged by their character and merit, and not their class or identity group .. ppl forget who the liberals were in the 90’s.. rooting for the little man .. using reason and logic to do anything.
@@sticks7857 bingo .. I remember when progressive meant logical sensible solutions to complex problems and going against rhe old school methods .. it wasn’t crucifying white men and burning down universities.. power just corrupts man .. white ppl had the power now the liberal marxists. Shits sad and sorry .. this is how I brain dump
Scott you’re the greatest man I have ever heard speak. Thank you for your voice.
Wealth is becoming more concentrated which means most men have no chance to compete or simply give up trying. Jobs are less secure. Women also don't want to struggle and want security so even if an average man succeeds in building healthy relationships, it often does not last. After being burnt once or twice, it becomes a game that's no longer fun to play.
No it’s fine. 11 years not being able to speak to people is fair
Exactly
Well said
The emphasis that he puts on friends is awesome. Men need friends. The reason why friends are so beneficial for young men is because that young man can go to his friend, ask him or run some silly idea past him, tell him something dark and personal, knowing that his buddy is just gonna absorb his sadness and ensure safe passing through whatever that young man is going through. Friends are also great to have because, conceptually, there is nothing tying that person to him to be his friend. He is there by choice. It the decision, not the blood-related-ness, that is comforting to know that this friend truly cares to stay around.
I ran cross country and track all the way through college, When I finished college I took a coaching position with the college for the cross country team. I loved coaching the up and coming student athletes more than when I personally competed, so much so that the team made it to ncaa nationals for the teams first time. I coached for 4 years and miss it still. Life took off and my career took priority, I now get to train the up and coming younger linemen as an overhead electrical lineman. I’ve always enjoyed teaching.
If you take Gallowayis ideas of leaning in to emotion and combine that with Rich's points about doing the work, then that's a powerful combination.
Please never stop speaking this truth , it is needed so much.
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My friend had a relevant PhD, a gold medal at the informatics Olympiad, the university medal from a reputable university, and Google didn’t give him an interview. He had to get someone who worked at Google to refer him and only then did he get an interview and the job…
Thats an example why luck is more important than skill
@@notyourdad361 If he hadn't worked his tail off to get his PhD and especially study for the Olympiad his "luck" of finding a reference will not help him. The skill is a prerequisite. With skill you can provide some value you can get paid to. No skill and all the lucky chances you get won't compensate for it. So skill is needed, luck is optional.
Actually, that’s an example of how connections and not skill open doors for the elite.
@@notyourdad361connections = luck. More prepared, the luckier you get.
Luck is when Preparation and Opportunity MEET.
Rejection is a healthy experience to increase determination
I am so lucky to have parents that loved me and finding a wife that is the best thing in my life. I want to help all young people get ahead.
No you don’t. I’m 28 live in the street mentally Ill parents, abused, haven’t spoken to anyone in 11 years you don’t care about anyone, that’s why you ran the world into the ground.
He cares, I care. But there are realities to wanting to help. Give advice, mentor, donate money. But you also have to show and have the desire to get better. I’m sorry you for what has happened to you. But you can still change. You can look yourself in the mirror and decide you alone control your life. Not your past. It’s all about the first step.
@@npappas2 care so much I’m censored hahahahaha
@@npappas2 I am in the process of making myself better everyday and I have a long way to go. the first thing you need to admit to is I am far from perfect but if you want something that I have that you do not maybe I can give insight of how to get there.
@@npappas2 “we care but we’re not going to do anything about it, and you need to fend for yourself like you always have” real great advice
Thank you both, I really needed that. 14 year male RN and USA swim coach that somewhat followed a similar path as Rich but got denied a great UC education, and love being a mentor to my patients and swim athletes.
So glad I listened start to finish.
How did you get denied a great UC education? You chose to not get that education.
Prof Galloway speaks facts/truths! We need to have him preach nationally. Maybe he can save our young youths.
Our 17 yo son is in an apprenticeship to learn a skill. He may attend college. But I agree this lack of emphasis on learning a valuable marketable skill and over emphasis on college is hurting our young men and women!
I live in a first world foreign country, without the US status culture, and it is perfectly acceptable to not go to college and learn a trade...Also, a lot of countries have working holiday visas for folks mostly under 30...so you can live AND work in a cool foreign country for like a year...it is so valuable just to get into a different culture such that you start to learn to discriminate 'the voices' in your head...whose are they?
Maybe just maybe kids are different - some should go to college, some not - maybe stop speaking for everyone and get used the idea that people are different
How the f$ck would you know? Do you know what's being taught in colleges? Have you even set foot in one in the last two decades?
Lucky him to get an apprenticeship i have been looking for one for years but I got lucky and somehow ended up becomming a cheesemaker and producing most of the cheese in all ontario
Fantastic topic, thank you so much! Mom of 3 sons and agree 100% with Prof G
Jesus I feel bad for those sons
What's wild and so overwhelmingly discouraging for me is: I'm in the top 20%. My online photos rate 8/10 in attractiveness, I make 95K a year, I'm 29 and fit (don't have a 6 pack but can run 6 miles).
And I still get no romantic attention. My female coworkers are all dating guys 10 years older than them. By any reasonable goalpost I'm doing great, especially by the standards of my generation. But we are SO fixated on the top 10% or 1%, that I feel basically just as neglected/invisible as the 80% of people below me.
Not to be rude, but you listed all external, "tangible" assets. For many women, including myself, we yearn for emotional, mental, and spiritual safety. Believe it or not, we put more value on that than any financial gain a man may have. For us, it's about safety and feeling safe with a partner - despite income. The internet shows women just wanting men for the money, but IN REAL LIFE, many women would not hesitate to date/marry a man who is not in this so-called "1-10%". They really just want men who are emotionally/mentally safe to be with. You'd be horrified with what many women have to endure from men on a daily basis. Unfortunately, it makes us very skeptical, scared, and harsh as a means for survival (not saying it's right, btw).
Anyway, aside from your assets that you listed, who are you, really? If you took everything that you listed away...who are you?
And whoever that healthy-minded, emotionally-stable person is...that's who your wife will want to be with. :)
Love and peace. ❤❤❤
@@PropheticDreamComics Your comment doesn't seem rude at all to me :) Thank you for replying with respect and good faith, I appreciate it
@Kuann1 That's fair. I'm not a man in the dating world so Idk the struggles of it personally. Don't beat yourself up about it, though. Remember, the internet is not a real place, lol.
The last guy I was involved with, I met at a park. We were both doing things we enjoyed and somehow both had the courage to "take a chance".
All that to say that Idt that based off my looks that I'm in the "top 1-10%" (which is what men tend to prefer), but also...who gives a flying flip??? Lol. The woman at the right time will take a risk with you. Plus, you're pretty young for a guy wanting a relationship, so you'll have plenty of options for a longer period of time. :)
Therefore...
Don't give up!
@@PropheticDreamComicsI agree but being a guy and seeing the other angle. There is a huge emphasis on looking photogenic, being viewed a successful and social. I started to notice it when my sister started dating. The guys around her friend group who were genuinely great people weren’t being considered amongst her friends because they lacked something exceptional to make them stand out. Those “traits” always fall back on 1/3 things. Looks, money or social status. I’m pretty sure women are extremely unaware of how much emphasis they put on it subconsciously. It’s a basic human instinct to want an attractive, put together partner. Everyone wants that but you’re invisible as a man unless you’re genetically exceptional or born rich. Pretty much cut from the cloth of god. It’s gone from average expecting average or slightly better to unhealthy, overweight, “I have no goals” Netflix all day girls expecting elite as the norm.
I’m in the under 25 age range, the Covid generation, and it’s very different to how my parents dated. Majority of men are single because they cannot live up to the new “stand out” group which is based on international tiktok standards. You really need to be elite now. The exception you need to be earning 90k+ the second you finish uni/college is becoming standard for my age range to even be considered “I guess you’re alright”. Even then no one wants to be the “I’ll date you because there’s no one else at the moment til someone better comes around” or being settled for and having it passive aggressively mocked to you and your friends.
This isn’t all women but there is also a growing faction of women who lack to provide unity in a relationship. They want all the benefits of being in a relationship without pulling their own end of the agreement, talking to others behind your back, providing nothing besides sex and expecting the world.
Great comment. This is how it is. I'm a 32 yo 5'5" male social worker, and I'll tell you, my friend who is 5'8" and a software developer sure gets a lot of dates. The truth is no one gives me a chance to meet them. In the relationships I've been in I've been kind, honest, committed, gentle. I'm not perfect. I wish people were just willing to give me a chance.
Rich this episode is so needed! Thank you for talking about this.
I’ve listened to hundreds of riches podcasts over the years and this one is an instant top 10. Solid start to finish.
It’s a bunch of Liberal hogwash. As soon as he said weak men start listening to conspiracy theories and become nationalist, I knew not to trust them.
Dishwasher in Canada, newcomer, 38 years old. Thank you, guys!
As a boy mom I loved this and I’m sharing it with everyone. Thanks Scott and Rich!
A couple of great men. Can’t wait for that book on masculinity to come out
What would this gay lover know about masculinity?
@@shoutatthesky Would there be an interest in finding out? Masculine loving goes hard
@@shoutatthesky i'm actually not gay, i'm bisexual. And I like to think I know a fair bit about both feminine and masculine energies. I think you may have internalized homophobia and likely misogyny because you likely don't attract the gaze of either men or women unless it's a gaze of distrust or discomfort and so you cope with your emotional pain by externalizing your hurt onto others. Best of luck on your journey
Dude, Prof. G. is amazing, transparent and telling the story that needs to be told.
What a great podcast, and something we need to hear more about.
I'm 45 and just got divorced for the 2nd time a week ago. I made some bad choices, and my partner had/has her own things going on, but I'm 100% in the boat of feeling like a failure and not having a ton of hope.
I've worked my whole life, from 15 till now, but I didn't make great educational choices nor financial decisions. I'm not a fuckup, in that I don't get arrested, no major societal issues, I'm tall, considered good-looking (though I have trouble feeling/saying it), but I'm not good material on paper.
Do I have another 30+ years of this ahead of me? Sometimes I hope not, and other times I think sure, I got this.
I may not be your typical disillusioned male, but I am indeed disillusioned.
Life is fucking hard, man. I love hearing good, positive, sensible voices like these two, so thank you to them.
You have money and a career.
Its not that bad for you.
Don't male dumb romantic partner choices again
@@Matanumi thats good advice. Responding negatively to anyone's comments, especially a stranger, has always struck me as odd. Good on you.
As the other person noted, you don’t have it that bad.
I am slightly older than you and have gone through my own insecurities as such. What I would say though is that focus on you. Meaning, set some fitness goals and start doing it consistently. Preferably not all by yourself, but join some classes etc.. If you do this, it won’t be long before your outlook sharpens up as you start feeling better and more accomplished. Finding another relationship gets a lot easier, and dare I say you you will have a better chance to find the right person too.
Good luck! Life is what we make out of it.
@rid.h.tom.4296 I understand what you're saying. Perhaps my comment is being taken differently than intended. I am physically fit and quite active. I do have a good job, a roof, etc. I guess that maybe I was being too honest in stating how I was feeling and what my current life looks like.
I appreciate that your comments are intended to help versus shit on. I was voicing my feelings much as one might in an AA meeting where you're not typically going to get someone telling you what to do, etc. But rather by you, in this case me, voicing your problems, fears, etc you're helping others.
Again, perhaps I was just being too honest in a forum that isn't meant for it.
Thank you for being positive though!
@@thomasmainecoon Ignore them, you weren't crying poor. The statement "you don't have it that bad" is a pretty weird take on someone just sharing where they're at and how they feel, especially in the midst of a major life shake up like where you're at.
Good on you for sharing your current experience and thanking the generous men in this discussion. I note you have many more likes on your comment than commenters who chose to minimise your experience for no apparent reason.
To the comment about not a lot of opportunities for young people not having an "on-ramp" to a liveable wage, here is an opportunity: professional trail building. The skills involved with building trail systems involves an incredible number of different skillsets that carry over into numerous other types of jobs. Entry level wages are typically much higher than minimum wages. Bigger Cities and counties now are hiring trail builders as full-time staff as well. Hope this helps at least one person searching for something that they may not even know this is even a job that you can get paid to do. Right now, today, there's really no end in sight on the demand for skilled workers that are willing to travel (it can be seasonal). I'm in the Southeast and we build year round, usually.
As in hiking trails?
@@_nebulousthoughtshiking, mountain biking mostly. Bike Parks are popping up all the time. Private OHV and Moto Parks are starting to get popular too.
I am a mother of 2 sons and a daughter and thoroughly enjoyed listening to this. I will share this podcast.
Needed to hear this, was sent from a friend.
I resonated with the recovery & then the points talked about in the anger brewing in my male peers around the financial & emotional stability we are seeking.
I'm 32 and have 8 years of self development experience to the point where this podcast beautifully captured all the points & soulutions to shift that culture and empower my fellow men that are struggling today. Gives me hope to continue spreading the message and giving love to my fellow brothers.
It takes a village rings in my ear. Shared this with a few of my friends.
Keep the lighthouse shining for those lost at sea my friends.
This dude is one of the most on-point voices out there right now. Love watching him on Real Time. As a father of two 12 year old boys (twins), I will definitely be following Galloway and suggest my sons check out his work as they get a little older.
I haven't listened yet, but I've seen him before. *He places ZERO responsibility on women as I recall.*
I'm not quite 60. From what I can tell _this is a female crisis not a male one._ Males generally work and achieve for females. Modern females are mostly unattractive, entitled, and using the internet as a proxy for the attention they want. Naturally they end up miserable, but by that time it's too late.
This was not the case when I was young. I'm not the most attractive guy, but I'm smart and funny not too bad looking so I did fine. I have a strong feeling I'd be in the same boat as these kids were I a young man today.
The quickest fix I can see is this: kill no fault divorce and kill alimony. Most women are waiting till around 30 to get married, and they end up 'compromising' on a man they're not actually compromising for. Thus entitled and dissatisfied, they divorce the men they "settle" for in order to have kids.
It happened to my son. It happened to two of his friends. Now I have to help my son out on the QT. If it wasn't on the QT she'd steal it. Ending no fault divorce will fix that and give them permission to take a chance. Right now they have no permission, not from me anyway. Nor from chance, nor from fate.
But I'm guessing he doesn't mention no fault divorce in this video. He didn't before. If he does now it's probably because he got a thousand letters.
It’s refreshing to see someone from the other side politically speaking to young men with this level of compassion and care. Even though I can tell that Scott and I differ on a lot politically, I can really see he’s had the humility and the dedication to do the research and come up with good solutions to problems many refuse to see. I’m looking forward to his book for sure, I think he’s absolutely right about a lot of what he says on masculinity, and I hope more people hear his message.
To have self esteem you must do something esteemable.
Don't follow your passion, follow your talent.
I'm a woman and I didn't agree with absolutely everything but there was lots of solid advice here. I was given rubbish advice as a teen and only just realised recently that I was never taught how to set a goal or even to *have* goals aside from "get good grades." Add abuse and trauma into the deal and it's no wonder I have struggled all my adult life.
We need more mentors in the world to make up for the shortcomings of our parents and schoolteachers. Thank you for this 💜
Curious to hear what you disagreed with?
Finding talent (whatever talent is) is something totally random.
@@mateuszmisztela601 Talent is overrated. You'll get reasonably good at anything that you apply yourself to with enough consequence. What we mistake for "talent" is often what we in some way aquired a bit of a head start in as kids. But we shouldn't let that define us if we don't want to.
Thanks Scott for giving credit to all the little things we do to raise our kids. Just the simple (but not so simple) practice of being present with our kids is so important and a gift to them. Man, this was such a good talk. It's all the things I have been contemplating as of late and trying to support my teen because we can't go to Stanford...Keep yelling this topic from the rooftops. It's our future. Take Easy T
And manners
Her kids his money
Black man here from Jamaica and listen! I'll be referencing this VIDEO MANY TIMES! Thanks for sharing and posting. ❤
I won’t watch 20 minutes of most stuff. This, every minute of this was so worth my time. Thank you very much for using your platform for helping me, us, them especially at a time like now. Rewarding content. I love it.
Scott is such a genuine and good guy. This really resonates with me.
Thank you I needed this as a 30 yr old with a family 3 boys. It’s tough out here. Stay strong guys.
Wow. As a senior white female with no son, I still found this deeply insightful and so necessary. Sharing this with any friend who will listen with a son or grandson. Hell, sharing this with everyone I know. 🙏
Traditional women love feminist laws get what you deserve
The irony of the Plunge ad 😂 Im 38 and could never afford a $4,000 tub to take a cold lil bathy in my non nonexistent yard. Thats Rich! 😂
I went from soldier, to firefighter, and now flight medic. I genuinely see it as my responsibility to protect people. It’s just ingrained.
Imagine earning your master electricians license or welding certification from Stanford or UC, or any university. The pride and positivity men would display for being a part of the above-cloud community as an equal contributer to society.
In New Mexico we have CNM, it's a great school for vocation or college.
You don't become a master electrician by going to uni.
@@robertwilber1909 I most certainly wouldn't want to get it from you.
As I was listening to this on 4/25/3024 and I gotta call from Anchorage Alaska P.D. My brother's body was found under a bridge. He was a lost soul, alcoholic, homeless, in and out of jail, baby mommas all over the place. Our dad was around did the best he knew how. He was the guy they are talking about, just no direction, no purpose. I don't know if society could have changed him but maybe.
My condolences to you and your family.
Very sorry for your loss. Hopefully you sharing your story can inspire someone else to avoid this terrible outcome.
Biologically, evolution wise, your brother was a far more successful man than you are.. in another 50 to 60 years you'll both be dead, but he spread far more of his genetic material throughout the world than you did and will live on in far more people.
3024? My man a time traveler
This content needs to be shared far and wide by everyone who watches it.
It's being discussed everywhere
I like this dudes message, just listened to his ted talk. You are greatly appreciated Rich and Scott.
This is absolutely brilliant podcast! I can relate as a citizen who came from abroad (legally) 18 years ago (I'm 40 years old now) with $400 in a pocket. However after this is insane grind I still feel like this "great wealth transfer" is outpacing me. Which prevents me from ability to provide much needed "safety" to actually support a family, therefor I'm walking alone and absolutely hate it! It is a tough race indeed. Even though I'm educated, well versed, fit and understand this economics well in depth, once this insane printing had began i knew middle class which i was, will be wiped. Last 4 years all im trying to do is figure out how to beat it and come ahead. Thank you for what you doing.
51:00 I don't know how important it is for another man to tell another to just feel your emotion. To tell him to cry it out and to allow yourself to feel the emotion you are feeling.
Just now I'm at work and listening to this podcast and I just had a wave of emotions come through in a series of tears. I was reminiscing the day of my uncle's funeral and remembering where I was, seeing my own father, the brother of my uncle, break down in front of our family. I couldn't cry during the service because it was very rare to see my own father cry like that.
I honest to God am grateful to hear another man give me the permission to cry. I know it shouldn't be this way but it just is, unfortunately.
Everyone in the country should have to watch this video. As a 32 year old, middle class male, this man knows every single thing I am extremely pissed about and think about daily. One thing that I think is super important to bring up has to do with voting. I don't vote, but it's not because I don't want to. It's because no candidate is saying what I want to hear, but we don't have a "all options suck, lets re-roll" button. We are forced to choose from what is available, but what's available sucks.
Check out RFK Jr. for this election and go vote
@@adambartlett2780 how about we stop promoting grandpas that should retire?
@@adambartlett2780 Yeah! You heard @AlexiosLair absolutely no Politics whatsoever.
Keep the faith. Sucks less is still better than giving up and accepting sucks more. And if enough of us take action, change is possible. Possible even if seemingly unlikely beats impossible.
I think the biggest thing for me, which supports your position, is that none of us, literally, NONE OF US would choose to vote between Trump and Biden. Once I realized this, I knew that it really is all just an illusion of choice and it is utterly pointless to pretend my vote holds any weight. It could not be any more simple than that for me.
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Two mature adult men having an honest, deep conversation. Why do we not see this more?
Because the media shuts it down
It's just rebranded feminist rhetoric and masculinity punditry. It's actually underhanded, but I guess no one sees that?
@@tomcoop9750 this is The dominant narrative. It's basically the masculinity studies premise from institutional feminism
@@oraz. And what alternative would you prefer?
@@schonlingg.wunderbar2985 Women are empowered now. That's what has charged. This is all the same old advice for men, and it isn't enough without women taking on more responsibility. It's victim blaming to preach to men about this. They need to talk specific policies for men and boys, and how both men and women (but women even more so) can support and get them into practice. With women being more empowered, toxic femininity needs to be discussed, too. When women have more power than they did before, it's more dangerous than it has been historically. Regular men joining women in the labor movement is how a lot of women's rights happened. We need that unity to advocate for men now.
Scott has grown exponentially once beginning his show with Kara Swisher. His insight on humanity love and compassion in conjunction with his financial knowledge has matured this man into a therapeutic guru.
I don't understand why public "intellectuals" still believe that masculinity is just a social construct- It reflects an underlying desire and belief that they can socially engineer men and women to behave in ways they think will make things better, but that's the problem to begin with. Although social construct is a part of it, the underlying biological incentives that influence men and women, making them different is what we ignore, at our peril.
That is the core of Liberalism. We can all be and do anything. No one has limits. These fellows are starting to see that hey wait, things aren't perfectly equal. They even waffle around on both sides. They talk about their kids and knowing their personalities are set in stone, but then earlier they downplayed that aspect a bit. I think they're on the right path, but they're kinda just hoping to restore a normalcy they're familiar with, but also saying we can't do that.
I was very stagnated socially the last few years, potentially starting with covid. I decided that i needed to do something with my anxiety and concern I had with civic engagement and politics. I got involved I'm a few different volunteer groups in Ohio and I started focusing on voter registration, getting out the vote (GOTV), and citizen led ballot initiatives. It has done a lot with social engagement, confidence, and networking. It has been an great past year or two. I've grown and learned alot and I feel, have done a small bit of good in my state. The more people involved in the political conversation (actively not passively) the better off our society will be.
Government is only corruption. Anytime you find yourself looking to government for answers, ask yourself, is corruption going to make this situation better?
@@E_Clampus_Vitus genuinely curious- but in a democratic republic in which law is infringed on the individuals vote and those placed in power are elected; how does one change a corrupted government/system if not with their votes? Are you implying the solution would be to do simply nothing? Or is it to enact anarchy and violence against the system? If violence is the answer, how do you resolve to make the next system any better than the first?
Scott Galloway is very correct about so much. The 1950s and 1960s were great as a kid versus today for my Sons.
Scott Galloway is 5 dimensions ahead of all of us
No he's not in fact he's right here dealing with the immediate obvious problems facing man and male culture in the West.
He's not five dimensions out...
@@mgu1N1n1 true fair point. I just meant he’s really smart lol
He's a late stage boomer who still thinks it's 1964
Thank you for supporting and valuing men. Men greatly benefit from a traditional right of passage, something lost in our modern society.
Because it got eaten up by a combination of many things
Gentlemen. I can’t be the only one thinking it. This was one of the most amazing podcasts I’ve ever watched. You guys feed off of each other incredibly well.
Monthly chats!? lol WOW WHAT A CONVERSATION TO WATCH