Nissan Ariya 87 kWh FWD Geilo test part 2
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Today I've spent ~4 hours with this car ("e-4ORCE") in Stuttgart area. And I like Ariya more than Model Y (I can't believe that I'm writing this, because I was a Tesla fan for years!!!).
What do you like better about the Ariya exactly?
Geilo 😍 we made a road-trip from Germany to Norway this summer. We were in the exact same place like your parking position! The bakery is amazing: we loved the „Schokobrötchen“ - greetings from Germany!
You showed exactly what I was curious about...what Nissan has improved (if anything) since the Leaf when it comes to battery management. Great work!
Heated windscreen was a Ford only thing for a long time. But I believe the patent then lapsed and then anybody could do it. It's absolutely magic, but once you notice the little "wiggly worms" on the screen you can't un-see them!
Yeah, tested a Toyota RAV-4 with heated windscreen. And I could indeed spot those "wiggly worms" and it was pretty annoying imo.
this. Also when replacing the glass i wonder if its way more expensive.
That's what she said
If I remerber correctly our Ford Mondeo mk2 MY1998 used the same system. I am not sure about mk4 MY2008, but we then bought vw passat MY2011 later, that had heated windshield too, but it used transparent foil instead. Other than that it works in the same way. And I think Ford did not heated the windshield to the left&right edge, there was approx 8cm gap.
I has suchlike in a 1989 Escort XR3i some 33 years ago.
This is why like the Geilo test, good to see how this car coldgates. Great vid!
I wished I watched your MX-30 videos before shopping. This is still better.
Finally, winter test are here, I love them most :-)
One of the best in the EV space. Well done sir. Thank you.
Hallingdal / Buskerud looking so beautiful in the snow, Geilo test one my my favourites. Heated windscreen is impressive in Ariya.
Well it's also impressive in 2010 Ford Focus!
@@pawefiett2468 True!
@@pawefiett2468 My former work car, from the 90s, Ford Transit pickup had heating wires in the windshield...
Thank you for the cold weather review. Very similar to Canadian weather so I appreciate it.
Heated windscreen are just great. Loved them back in the old VW Passat days.
Driving in a winter wonderland!
Bjorn you reminded me of the ONE thing I’m NOT looking forward to every Winter is when you park outside and how the snow sucks onto the seats when you open the doors! Lol. I try to do a quick scrape with my gloves before opening so I don’t have a cold butt!
The heated windshield is a very very good thing.
this was fun to watch!
Man, you get proper winters. Just like I remember when I was a kid.
I call that a barely winter.
Yeah, buts its November. It IS barely winter. It's still 12 degrees at times here in the UK.
I love the heated Windshield, just like an old Renault Safrane 🤩
Would love to see an updated test of the EV6 with the anti cold gate software update!
I had a Mondeo years ago with a heated windscreen. Great in winter but I hated it when the sun caught and highlighted the filaments.
The heated windshield is one of the best features there is I guess. Also great for you when driving in extreme cold and snowstorms so you can just leave it on. This will I guess also keep the wipers soft and working compared to normally when your sight gets bad due to wipers etc. Curious if you can test some time.
I just wonder if this feature is also in the EVOLVE trim? Can't see that fine wired window meshing in ours E+ trim... ?
For maximum charging performance, the Ariya needs to be switched off before starting the charging session in accordance with the operating manual, to avoid entering a battery protection mode.
Good to know!
winter is freezin here in hokksund
Ja Björn jag håller med, Japansk teknik är fantastisk! God vid!
Did leafspy work with Ariya? Wonder if it might have given more insight on what the battery temperature was doing during cold gate
My old 2014 e-Up has a heated windscreen. 😎
The new windscreens for Volkswagen has a silver layer inside, so you won’t get that copper grid in view.
2017 Skoda Superb has a metallic foil laminated in the windscreen so there are no visible wires. Probably the best car I’ve ever owned...so far!
I have understood that you need to manually start heating of battery appr. 30 mins before charge. If it is on all time it must limit the heating power to save range etc. Would like to see more test with this heating.
I sense this is your favorite EV these days
i missed the snow, going to japan and taiwan so at least i will get some
Hi Bjørn, do you prefer de MG Marvel R over the MG ZS EV? Or the other way around?
Ford invented the heated windscreen in the 80s so technically its ford kicking ass for the lord
Great video always some funny moments hope you enjoyed your prison hotel 😂. It’s interesting seeing a Japanese EV being tested in Northern winter ❄️ and still managed to be efficient.
North Japan gets even colder, so I guess they know how to build these cars.
@@SLeeSG i am still interested in seeing the Bz4X being tested on this channel.
Good test
why did nissan not do electric heat windscreen for the leaf?? the technology has been around for along time, and when i bought my leaf (new) in 2013 it was the first question in my mind, then the heater stopped working in 2016..... great times in the winter time!! PS i live in Norway.
good video Bjørn keep up the good work.
Ford have had the heated windscreen on cars for maybe 20 years - its been a long time for others to catch up (or the patent has lapsed and others can now use it - shame not all do though) - of course it makes it a very expensive screen to replace if it cracks/breaks!
Glad to see it on the Ariya now.
Did you drive with the battery heater for 2 hours non-stop? Does it really stay on that long with full power?
14:07 is that a radar for speed control? :D Edit, someone already asked it and confirmed, that's a radar control. BTW, I'm really jealous Björn, I wanna test all those cars too in this mesmerizing winter landscape of Norway! :P
Had a Ford Escort in the 1990s that had the same heated windscreen, a brilliant feature. Currently looking to replace a 3 year old Kia E-Niro 4+ and am considering the Ariya. Current concern is high pricing for middle spec (in the UK) and relatively slow charging.
The germens hade this elecric windscreen in early 90:s.
Perhaps battery heating tops at a temperature too low for maximum charging rates. Like my ID.4 2021 that always heats the battery (no need or function specific to this purpose) but always stop warming ig at 6°C. Heating later comes from the charging process itself and can make things better for a while before reducing again when the battery tops off. I don't know if the long awaited software update will eventually improve the situation. Looks like automakers play safe at the beginning.
12:40 Simply push a button in the app and the cabin will be preheated when you come back. You can even set a time when the cabin should be warm. ABC - App Brings Conditioning ;) Plus the car has excellent heat insulation and would be A: still warm-ish anyways after a charging stop, and B: up to temperature in 30 seconds. Absolutely no need to use any sort of preheating in that case.
What if you don't have the app or the app is down?
@@bjornnyland As I wrote: the car has excellent heat insulation and would be A: still warm-ish anyways after a charging stop, and B: up to temperature in 30 seconds. Absolutely no need to use any sort of preheating in that case. Would literally be a waste of energy. Ariya will heat up from -5°C over a full night, completely frozen over, to warm and cozy with free windshield in 2 minutes straight.
I'm buying this Nissan Fat-Leaf. Yea it's brilliant
This type of heated screen was on my Ford 15 years ago! Very surprising that Bjorn has never seen it before. It is probably out of patent protection so will become more common in future. the downside is that it is very expensive to replace.
The Mach e has this feature aswell
such a bullshit move patenting heated front windows
@@FSXgta agreed
The joke went straight above your head 🤣
@@bjornnyland If you had zoomed in on the wires and said "What the heck are these things???" I would have laughed a lot :-).
The Volvo XC40 has a heated front badge with the radar in it. I guess the Swedes took account of the climate. I just took delivery of a XC40 twin AWD 2021 First Edition in UK
Surely if wing mirrors and front windscreens can be heated these days it’s possible to heat the radar. Self driving/ACC aren’t the only things using your radar today so do you also loose some of the safety features like AEB etc when the radar sensor is frozen up/ obstructed?
My Land Rovers have had heated front screens since 2005 when LR was owned by Ford and it takes 30 secs to clear both front and rear screens.
If you watch some of Bjorns Geilo tests from last year I think there are some videos where his heat detection camera shows the radar as heated
Yes, on very expensive BMW’s and Mercedes EQS - it should be mandatory figment on any car with driver assist/ auto-pilot type tech. I had a car in 2007 that the ACC dropped out in snow but I couldn’t even set it to drive on old style cruise control as a back up - 400 mile motorway trip without cruise control still happens today
14:07 is that white thing with 2 openings, by the rail, a speed-camera?
Yes
So why are you skipping thermal camera?
Why are you starting the charge with car ON?
"when -i came back it will be nice and cold" 🥶
*come
Hey there, i would we interested how an FWD EV would compare to an RWD EV uphill on an overfrozen road. Like which one would start to slip easier / which has better grip. I remember a comparison from a few years back with an Kona ev (fwd) and an ID3 (rwd) in which the ID3 did way better, it would be interesting to know if rwd ev´s would be generally better uphill in winter.
It depends on the weight distribution. Generally FWD is worse off in EVs because they are more easily balanced. A FWD ICE car would have the advantage because the engine and gearbox would sit in the front.
The Zoe still employs a front-heavy weight distribution (60% Front and 40% Rear). The Peugeot e208 is 55/45, as well as the Kona 64kWh. The Zoe would have, with the same tires, better grip than either the e208 or the Kona on an incline. The ID.3 and cars with similar weight distribution on the other hand have the advantage that the weight shifts to the rear while accelerating or on an incline, so that will help them out.
Bjorn has a folder in his description ("My main folder with everything") and there you click on the file called "TB test results". Under the weight tab (bottom) you can find all the weight distributions and total mass he's tested over the years. You can get an idea about how a car would handle your situation.
So yeah, with FWD, the less weight on the front there is, the worse it's off in your situation.
NIssan und das Temperaturmanagment. Beim Leaf ging das auf Kosten des Akkus 🙂
I said "Yo what's up" before your "Good morning")
Goes to show how much teslas are taken for granted
So i guess the old e-tron has more cobalt in the battery thats why it coldgate less? Tesla has good precondition that everyone should have.
❤❤❤
I think that you have seen the film "Braindead". In it the priest "kicks ass for the Lord".
Just replaced my mums 20 year old ford focus it had heated windscreen.
Is the front camera or radar failing?
This is great content, now I don't have to consider that car for my future car purchase.
Those windshild wires are really annoying. I drove a Qashqai in the dark, headlights of oncoming traffic interfere with those wires causing light glare (diffraction?). That kind of heating is relatively low cost, used not only in Fords but also for ex. in Fiat Panda. VW has a way better solution - thin, uniform, transparent silver layer.
Good. But with the price tag its supposed to be much better
The map coloring in the center console is Horrendous! Other than that a very nice and balanced car!
For a man who had Laguna 2 you seem too excited by windscreen electric heating =)
Completely understandable that you'd get annoyed over the coldgating, but a drop from 90kW to 85kW isn't all that much. My iX3 is far worse, I was at Circle K this week, came there with some 10% in the battery, hooked up to a 300kW charger and got 50kW during the entire 20 minute session. THAT'S bad.
Wow! I feel bad for you! I don’t use the “Fast Charging” for my EV at all but tried it once when it was free and mine tops out at 55kw which was like watching paint dry for me! Hope your car improves that in future!
@@kyliefan7 from what I've gathered from Björns videos, as well as from forums, the pre-facelift version of the iX3 (which I happen to have) never received a battery preheating option, no software solution for that. Also, as Björn mentioned in one of the videos, apparently, the battery in the iX3 is very bad at holding heat once you've stopped for a charge. In May this year, I made some 6000km through Europe and charged at relatively high speeds, anything between 85 and 150kW. But now during winter, it won't budge over 50kW, regardless of the charger. 🙄
I think Ford owns the patent for the heated windshield technology!
Ford owned the patent but it ran out so any brand can now use this technology without a fee.
Why do you convert KW to watts? Because anyway it is not correct to say 200 watts instead of 20.1 Kwh. 20 kwh = 20,000 watts, right?
Divide by 100 to get per Km
They really need to improve charge times on DC, this is ridiculous.
no results in the google sheeet?
Nope
I still don’t understand. What is the max charge speed that Nissan says for the Ariya? The charging speeds you reach now is what cars managed 3-5 years ago? Haha
So please tell me what cars charge from 10-80% in winter temperatures holding a flat charging curve over 100 kW?
@@fredrikh8070 Tesla, Volkswagen ID and VAG. BMW, Mercedes and more
@@nickdegroot2445 And you have tried fast charging all these cars in winter temperatures?
@@fredrikh8070 Bjorn did?
Any one 188cm tall have driven a Ariya ? How is the head space for tall boys?
I’m 189 cm and it’s fine!
actually, that wire in the window technology is german.
and pretty old.
The joke went straight above your head 🤣
@@bjornnyland damnit.
Don't you think the battery producers know what temperature and what's healthy charging speed for the car ? If you put to much effect in the battery then you reduce the battery life..Of course cooling and heating of the battery has an effect, but in the end they must have the best knowledge.
The heated front windscreen isn’t new or Japanese, I had that in my 2007 Ford fiesta, the patient ran out and now every car company is now stealing fords technology.
The joke went straight above your head 🤣
-5 is nothing! you need to check -20 to -40 and how it goes! We are from Canada!
It has Fan Only mode 😂
We have "ONLY FAN" 😆😆😆
Ford has this technology from 2000 😀. Heated windscreen
My 8 year old Ford Fiesta has heated screen!
Ford used to own the rights to heated windscreens so no other cars had them back in the day.
@@sekopiski Yep 1988 SIerra I had for while got that future also.
More annoying would be if this NIssan is like Enyaq where you can't enable just the normal cruise control that has worked for the 70 years when the stupid active cruise dosen't work for 6 months
My dad had the same type of heated wind shield in his Ford Mondeo from 95 😄
Heated windscreen was first launched on the new Granada/Scorpio in 1985, it then launched in the Escort/Orion on the 1986 facelift and sierra facelift and sierra sapphire launch in 1987, fiesta got the heated screen in 1988 when the mk3 fiesta was launched.
@@Iceeeen when ford got Jaguar. They got it too. Our 96 XJR6 had it too. Liked it in the winter. Rest if the year it didnt as it looked a little like the screen was dirty because of the lines in the screen
Tesla has now implemented auto wiper setting forced on with cruise control or autopilot, which sucks big time in winter. Cruise is unusable now...
If the radar cannot be heated that’s nicht gut 🤦♂️
Not sure what's magic about about heated windscreens in 2022. You've driven lots of cars that have it but never noticed?
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Very dissapointing, now even with a new car the Nissan did not improve the cold gate issue and stays behind the older cars like Tesla, audi e-tron etcetera. They didn’t learn from the problems with the Nissan Leaf. It’s a pitty because it’s a very beautiful car.
Strange it is, while looking at this video I got car ad for Porsche, Audi and Lotus. Except for Audi, cars that never is tested on this channel. If Porsche wants to sell their green fat Taycan why so scared of letting Bjørn test it ? We know they have lots of software bugs but little we know of details.
Incorrect. I have of course tested Porsche several times.
@@bjornnyland Do test through the backdoor count ?
Slow charging… cries in s85 charging speeds 😂
It seems like this car isnt even as bad. But today you almost have to buy a tesla.
Why would you have to buy a Tesla?
@@fredrikh8070 supercharger network an overall value for money
Value for money, naeh. Charging network I agree.
Old Chinese secret…! 😝😝😝
You have to be an engineer now to figure out how these things work and what's they indicate !!! So annoying!!!
6:31 Waiting 3 hours to get charged...in winter...no thanks...
bmw i4 is better winter car than ariya
more expensive too
@@Vortex__24 not the i40 its basicaly similar too arya with big battery pricewise.
Same price at evolve trim. But the i4 has no where near the specs of the Nissan.
If you have windscreen heating, seat heating and preheat subscriptions + all the other subscriptions
SO……Nissan comes out with a “Next Gen” EV and it’s not much better at charging than the current generation Leaf??? I’m NOT SHOCKED! ARE THEY GETTING paid by TOYOTA to make crappy EV’s too?? Lol😂. I’m sorry if this offends any Nissan fans but I am biased because of past experiences with this awful company!