The Problem With Jadon Sancho
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- @RoryJenningsFootball & @Buvey discuss Jadon Sancho's situation at Man United after the winger took aim at manager Erik ten Hag following their 3-1 loss to Arsenal.
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Wan Basaka faced a similar situation. He stayed quiet and earned his place back.
Probably because he’s got a good attitude and mindset
Same for rashford
Who 😂
@@hypeandtingsRashford is Uniteds golden boy & will outlast any manager not putting him in the starting 11 😂😂😂
@@ChefKeyBrienhis point is the golden boy received the criticism and worked hard to get back in the team. Meanwhile you've got a flop at the club saying he's being scapegoated....just like he said at Dortmund before he left.
One thing I know for sure...
Sancho hasnt done a damn thing at this club to have credit of being backed over the manager..
I find it truly funny those Ronaldo fan boys want to jump to defend Sancho lmao..
In Ronaldo's interview, he literally said Young players at United are not serious.. WHo do you think he was talking about?
Defo sancho possibly nacho doubt it tho
I'm a Ronaldo fan myself but some of the fanboys make it really hard sometimes
@@seymourhundos7986 it could possibly Nacho as well because I remember Bruno came out and said he wasnt playing because of attitude issue..
However Garnacho is a perfect example for how Sancho should have responded..
@@ap7football933 I'm also a Ronaldo fan too but I am not going to pretend that Ronaldo and Snacho situation are the same..
Ronaldo work ethic could never be questioned. Cant say the same for Sancho
No Ten Hag has favourites such as Antony and Rashford have get given lots of opportunities compared to Sancho who was our best attacker in pre season and still didn’t get a start
I don't know how anyone with a brain can blame Ten Hag in this situation. If Sancho hadn't responded, no one would have even noticed. This is after he was given 3 months break last year for his mental health, plenty of managers would have declined. Ten Hag didn't even make him a scapegoat.
Is this a troll post? Blame the person responding instead of the person who made the initial comment 🙄. The 3 month break wasnt at sanchos request, eth made that call because he thought sancho would be brilliant and he'd be lauded as a great man-manager. Guess who got that wrong too?
And with Antony now suspended he would’ve been starting every game, absolute braindead response from the kid and he’s pinned the tweet instead of deleting it, pure arrogance
Why even throw him under the bus
@@thedunyadoneya2628have you ever played football or even had a job? the manager and players aren’t on equal levels, the managers word is final and if a manager makes a comment about your performance you don’t respond publicly calling him a liar, you either go to his office or buckle down. What Sancho has done is a sackable offence in any other walk of life.
@@hudhayfahchanawala6593 A manager asking for a player's standards to fix up after giving him 30 min subs in the games prior.... Seems pretty fair in the working world
Mad that buvey is 100% right when talking about United here. Never happened before
saying Martinez is a 5/10 signing is ridiculous, he's not gunna shag you mate
Buvey rarely gets anything right .. even his opinions aren’t right (irony) …
Tured it off after Martinez was called "decent" clearly don't watch united
@@stephenwolverson1056Martinez is decent, he’s not a top top player but he’s alright.
Rivals fans watch Manchester United more than their own club. 🤣
In any other job if you got called into the managers office and the manager said “your performances aren’t up to scratch and you’re not putting in enough effort” and your response is “I am actually”, you’d be sacked on the spot. You’re essentially telling the manager that your best isn’t good enough.
The fact he’s on £300k+ a week is disgusting, he’s achieved absolutely nothing in the game and has an incredibly high opinion of himself, not sure if Pep was the manager at the time but I remember him demanding to start for city back when he was 16.
Guess that’s the difference between well run clubs and Manchester United, none of the top clubs wanted him at dortmund because you can bet they’d done their due diligence on the kid’s attitude and mentality.
Lmao you actually think thats true 😂😂, name a job that happens in. I'll wait.
@@thedunyadoneya2628 most jobs, you’ll understand when you get one.
I agree, but and it’s a big but - this is all happening in the public domain. “Any other job” you are referring to is not in the public domain. And that is a big difference. Sancho is in the wrong though. Should have shut up and proven the manager wrong.
In the days of working in 1623 sure... not in 2023 though.
@@joeallen781 if your performances are already below par and you tell your manager this is you at 100% you’re going to be let go.
Ten Hag was asked why Sancho wasn’t in the squad and he answered honestly. That isn’t anything close to “slagging off” like Buvey claims
United put Sancho in the Champions League squad after the drama. They fully intend for him to play again this season.
It was decided before.
It doesn't mean
Not playing him is enough
5/10 on Lisandro Martinez wowww.. do you even watch man united????
Yeah he’s nowhere near as good as everyone says 😂 hes been on the end of some batterings, bang average
@@MrLewbaah have you won a world cup or peague cup with united😂😂
Producer guy: “Rory get on your knees fella”
Rory: “what have I done?”
Different situations
It is like saying
Rory shoot someone
There are boundaries.
Rory would look so pretty on his knees
Look at Manchester United right now and for the last ten years, they have become a meatgrinder of footballing talent
Some of these players werenever that good.
More like they dint scout average players who have never achieved anything
Overpaid in fees n wages.
These overrated players kick up their feet due to their pre retirement windfall
Because we don't run like a football club simple.
one of the biggest problems at Man Utd is player power. Maguire and Sancho this season alone have proven that
Wonder how many players are in that list who went to United in their peak form, post 2012 and instantly dropped off
Except Zlatan, De Gea you can almost put everyone in that list
U re not a united fan obviously
the heck did ibra do post united lmaoooo
Win serie A with Milan...
@@seanhack628 with his 2 starts. stfu
going through 6 managers all of which with different styles of play in the span of 10 years is going to fill the squad with players with no chemistry and understanding. United's only chance with the glazers is to persist with ten hag, even if he doesn't win the league in the next 5 years
Ten hag called him out, in my opinion, because this was his last resort. Sancho was given MONTHS off last season to get himself right...yet still was terrible coming back. What else is he supposed to do. I applaud the decision. Top clubs need top mentalities in the squad. Sancho is obviously not that
Some times buvey gets its spot and it’s so simple, as a united fan I wish he was wrong, but he summed it up “he’s just lazy” simple! Get the f out of my club!
People use Sancho as a way to circle jerk the PL. ''Not good enough for the PL, was good enough for the Bundesliga.'' I think thats unfair to say. I wouldn't be surprised if mentality issues were a reason. Some players are just not built like the elite players that always stay hungry.
I always say that there's different levels of mentality in football. Some players have enough mentality to make it out of the youth teams. Some players have enough mentality to break through into the first team. Some players have enough mentality to follow up on a good debut season. Some players have enough mentality to stay hungry to earn a big transfer with a big sum of money and are still mentally strong enough to keep their level of quality up at their new club.
While others just get complacent, start earning a lot of money and the hunger disappears. Some maybe let the fame go to their heads. While some maybe can't handle the spotlight.
I remember how Van der Vaart spoke about there being players in the Ajax Youth Academy with him that were levels above him in terms of raw talent. However, they never made it into the first team because they simply lacked the mentality for it. Van der Vaart did have that mentality. However, even with Van der Vaart, who had a great career, he still suffered from mentality issues himself because his fitness wasn't always up to par and also started having issues with his weight.
With Sancho I really wouldn't be surprised if it was a mentality issue. Just look at him responding to his manager after his manager tries a classic way of motivating his player. By giving him a bit of critique in the media. Players with good mentality get annoyed and upset by that, but they keep it to themselves and then show their managers they are wrong by pulling off great performances. This has happened a lot before.
Aside from Rashford (who's only ever known Utd life) I can't think of a Man Utd player post Fergie who doesn't wholeheartedly regret signing for Man Utd. Not even just "ahh whatever" I mean you can full on say they would do anything to go back in time and not sign and most have even outright said it. Baffled me how any youngster pre Sancho would choose Utd but now even with no other offer on the table no youngster should be choosing Utd over another club.
bruno definitely, i hate the guy but hes been an insanely good signing
Imagine going to work and going to ur boss and they say you need to work harder and you reply with “yeah but others are doing bad too” just shows your mentality. Sanchos an egotistical person. He thinks he’s amazing. For some reason that United dressing room is full of egos that need to be under control.
Sancho could have just put his head down and worked hard, instead he had a winge and started some random conspiracy. Was a huge fan of him aswell, what a disappointment
He called the manager a liar in his tweet.
Sancho is done at MU, Ten Hag is.
He called media liars though
Crazy that in the summer, I assumed they'd have Antony, Sancho, and, probably, Greenwood, all out at RW. Now, they don't really have any of them, and ETH will probably start Fernandes out at RW, Mount at the 10, and Mainoo alongside Casemiro, at least until Amrabat comes back from injury. World of difference, that one.
Amad and Pellistri can finally get their chance
Sancho was supposed to be the next heir to Sané at The Etihad, but sadly it will always remain to be a what if moment
Yeah he should have stayed and learn under some of the best players in the world like Foden did.
baffles me when people say shit like this, people say the same about pogba staying with Fergie, the reason they left was their attitude. There is no what if, Pep tried and Sancho's attitude failed hi. It's well documented Pep tried to keep him but he forced his way to Dortmund. Pep or Fergie or whatever can't hold their hand for 24 hours a day, if they have a bad attitude and morale it's going to come out wherever. Are we going to pretend like Pep didn't go through public spats with players he couldn't manage.
Why do people keep using the rashford situation, literally not even close to the same thing lol being late to a meeting is very binary you’re late or you’re not, where as meeting a level is subjective, sancho may of felt he played just as well as anyone else in training, rashford couldn’t possibly think he was on time if he wasn’t
0:29 Just shows how statistics can be deceptive tho right...?
Messi might've had worse stats when he turned 20
but he was also runner up to kaka in the 2007 fifa world player of the year lol
People always forget how Messi was in the conversation for the greatest on the planet even before the goals and assists started happening...
Shows just how many levels above everyone else he was at his peak
Ten Hag has been kind to Sancho, helped him quietly, but still no change in performance. Ten hags comments werent unreasonable, its his last throw of the dice to get something out of him. Sancho shouldve kept quiet and got his head down. if he wanted to defend himself, he has to go to talk to the manager, behind closed doors
Ten Hag hasn’t been fair to Sancho as he has favourites and never played him despite him arguably being our best attacker in pre season and continuously playing Antony when he’s been crap
Sancho will never be right here. It’s a lesson he needs to learn as a young man. Just hope this doesn’t sink his career. Ten Hag knows this and will likely give him one last chance. ONE.
How often English players fall off the cliff is amazing.
It's hilarious🙃Cymru am byth
His attitude has come to light more than once. With Antony out now sancho would of defo just started the next couple games. Now his ruined even this opportunity after being loved so much by ET.
A lot of players flopped at United over the recent years. I don't see anything wrong with what Sancho posted. If the coach and the whole media can slaughter him in public he has a right to defend himself.
Hes coming home 🖤💛
Has Buvey ever explained how/why he supports city? Sounds like he’s from the West Country and I’ve never met a City fan outside of Manchester who isn’t a teenager
I said it at the time: Picking Man United when Sancho picked Man United was all I needed to know about the guy to know he wasn't winning player. United were in utter shambles, and he had interests from clubs who were at the peak of world football at the time, yet it was very clear that he first and foremost cared about was his brand. The differences between him and Bellingham coming from very similar career trajectories is incredibly stark. Bellingham is a top professional and will be a success for club and country. Sancho is a loser.
what a garbage comparison. if madrids team was as weak in 2019 as it is now sancho wouldve walked into the team. he bagged 30+ goal contributions as a fucken kid for multiple seasons. or another way to say it.. if sancho was still playing like that these days he would walk into madrids current 11. the only difference is timing and the level of the team at different times
United made a big mistake not scouting beyond the footballing aspect, Sancho to me looks set to be another Paul Pogba and United went and gave him a 350k a week contract and everything has been downhill since. Sad to see, incredible talent but fingers crossed he gets his act together
Yeah thats fair about the break, time off and reaction. I know personally dont like some ppl in my life, but just try and keep that under wraps. Or do it in a reasonable, fair way however at the end of the day- they do have the power the manager. Like Rory has said in any walk of life, can only do what u can and Sancho hasnt done that tbh, not done himself any favours anyway. And Ten Hag, as much as am an LFC fan bias there- has handled these things well. With Ronaldo and Sancho, shame cos did like Sancho back in that sort of 2019-21 ish sort of period
"if the producers say do something it's our responsibility to do it, it's our responsibility to be told what to do" in other words. Soul, sold
It’s not his personal life anymore because Ten Hag went public so he went public too. Ten Hag could have avoided the question and this would have been nothing.
Yes, thanks for saying this. If your employer is putting you on blast, trying to twist the narrative about you and force you into unfair compromises, that's gaslighting and exploitation, and you have a right to outcry.
@@pendafen7405 I HATE how they said “does Sancho has right” as RIGHT. Yea he has a RIGHT to the freedom of speech. I’m sorry but if this was Declan Rice or a different WHITE English star I think people would be taking his side more.
Just look how people defend Mudryk even after making fun of an elderly man in a gym on Instagram.
It's frustrating that no one seems to be dissecting the wording of this and is just jumping onto Sancho V Ten Hag
If you look at the wording of his tweet: "I have conducted myself very well in training", it comes off to me to be more that he's reacting to a question regarding his attitude and professionalism - which I believe he's wrongly misunderstood - while Ten Hag was referring to the relative form of players he placed ahead of him not his attitude or professionalism. I would gather that the media coverage questioning him about the mental holiday from the manager last season is enough for him to be abe bit touchy and defensive about any subsequent questions regarding his "attitude".
Most likely, this was just a misunderstanding that will not be resolved as they can't understand each other's viewpoint and Sancho will go in January (if ETH remains manager) or we'll hear that it was resolved at the end of international break when they get back to training so MU can have some positive spin on the club in the midst of all the bullshit they've had lately.
Rory does more exploring than Columbus
Did they reshoot this?
This is on Sancho. ETH gave him the time he needed last season, put an arm around him and eased him back into the team. Gave him more minutes that he deserved. And he never seems fit - this guy is 70+ million. He just needs to get his head down and work hard and perform. Obviously stuff happens behind the scenes, but he must do more.
It’s On Ten Hag because whenever Questions were asked about Maguire he protected him and threw Sancho under the bus by criticising him in a game he didn’t play
Agreed
But like Maguire, if Man Utd have to pay a huge amount of his salary to transfer him, I think both sit about taking millions for nowt. Pay them too much until they prove themself at the club is a recipe for disaster.
Cant cut this one any other way - Sancho simply shouldn't have come out against the manager on Twitter. Its not like Ten Hag did a Mourinho and laid into Sancho, he just said he wants more in training and has other options he put ahead of him on the day.
I don't think a manager should ever publicly try and shame a player, how would you feel if your manager posted on the company social X is doing a bad job at work. Some might say its a good wake up call for them but others might feel hurt and betrayed.
At the end of the day a managers job is to manage people , and it seem that ETH isn't really good at people management otherwise he would have known if i push this persons button it might backfire
Think Sancho tried creating a me vs him with his response to the media. ..in truth he has given United fans nothing with his performances to suggest he has been hard done by. He should take a leaf out of Wan Bisakas book who faced a similar situation but he knuckled down and did his talking on the pitch.
What’s the score predictions for tonight’s games then lads
Is there a chance that when he said he is being a scape goat, that he was talking about the media?
regardless of the sancho situation by rory logic if my boss at work came out lying about my behavior to my colleagues i have to stay silent because i have to "respect the hierarchy"
Have we learnt anything for the Dele interview? Players don’t just drop off, and for Sancho to react like he did makes me feel like more maybe going on off the pitch then anyone thinks
Yes, thanks for saying that. There's a clear case of pastoral neglect or background unrest here.
@@moonshine8255 A young boy being molested goes beyond, "life's tough for everyone". If we constantly say "that's life" and "men will be men" about assault and rape, the world only degenerates further.
I think he has the right to speak out if he genuinely thinks he’s been good at training and has had good conduct sancho can’t just be silent and let ppl give him a bad reputation
Ten haag has achieved so much already with a team that finished 6th, the only bad signing is Antony.
Anthony is ok but for off the pitch reasons sure, how about Johnny Evans, Weghorst, Sabitzer?
@seanhack628 Antony is crap. Weghorst was a drastic last minute replacement due to the ronaldo situation arising (not a signing). Evans is also a last minute replacement due to Varane getting injured once again and Maguire refusing to leave (Also not a signing). Sabitzer was great when he played, looked a real player, but also NOT A SIGNING 😂
He needs to man up. If Ten Hag & his coaches believe he's not putting in the effort enough in training then I know who I believe regardless of how much Sancho protests otherwise. The drop-off in his levels over the last couple of years says it all. He got given months off last season by Ten Hag to get his head right & the lack of gratitude for the support he was given has become evident. Get rid.
People said the same about Deli Ali.......how he needed to "man up".
@@BenDPBand it was true
No guys, he wasn't even near top5 winger di BVB. The problem in England is recruitment.. you have to have eyes to understand posture, skills in velocity, character, ecc.
Only Brighton seem to have it.
If your employer is trying to twist the narrative about you and force you into unfair compromises, then lies about doing it, that's gaslighting and exploitation, and you have a right to outcry.
Nothing is better the buvey and Rory
People live their lives too much on social media. Rashford had the same situation and earned his place and dominated, he simply needs to work harder and prove why he deserves too play.
Rashford epitomises moving in silence.
@@pendafen7405but still shit
Sancho obviously didn't make the right move, does he not have a team around him to advise him, or at least handle his social media?
Sancho has talent, but seems to have issues with fully committing himself. If I was Ten Hag, I'd be putting serious time into planning how to phase him out and replace him.
Ive never in 2 years agreed with anything this guy has said, whats his name buvey? His opinions are absolutely diabolical
The term "England International " doesn't carry the same weight no more International football is bang average, bang average
The problem with Jadon Sancho is there are many players who are more professional than him and willing to play in his position at half his pay. and that includes the women's team.
He’s doesn’t need jadon sancho they tried to sell him in the summer & no one bought him.
This is the same as 4 other players at Man Utd who are on too much money.
There is some off field issue with Sancho and it will all come out in the wash.
How many top tier manager throw their players under the bus .if ten hag felt sancho wasn’t giving enough as he expected as a manager its ur job to handle that off the pitch . He slaughtered sancho on air , live . And sancho did the same and y’all are blaming him. More over the timing was wrong , you cant say that about someone who hasnt even taken part in a match u just lost .
The issue is this two clubs that can kill your career Man u and Chelsea that the truth.. 😢😢😢
ETH didn't slag him off. He just said this week he wasn't up to it at training
He did coz whenever questions were asked about Maguire he protected him despite not wanting him but with Sancho he threw him under the bus in a game he didn’t play in
Sancho was so good at Dortmund. I was sure he was the real thing.
The Rashford comparison is key, speaks volumes. One man heads the criticism, puts his head down and continues to have his most impressive season as a united player...the other tweets...
It's not that sanchos been a scapegoat, he's had incredible support but he simply hasn't produced when given the oppurtunity
Hears*
He hasn’t Ten Hag has continuously been playing that fidget spinner and Rashford despite how bad they been playing and Sancho has not been given a fair amount of opportunities as those players despite arguably being our best player in pre season and dosent start the season
So, how did "Sari approach himself at Chelsea"? You are a comedian!
In 5 years: sancho interview with neville about how he wasted his career
If that's all you took from the Dele interview, you are a sociopath. Personal issues creates havoc in people's lives, including careers.
@@pendafen7405 🥲
One thing I'd add is that Sacho's favoured position is on the left wing, which he will never get over Rashford.
Or even Garnacho who has taken priority over Sancho
@@ANGELOFDARKification exactly.
Not bovey promoting gambling wirh words like "it is so easy to win"
Maurizio Sarri plays wonderful football, done well and doing well at Lazio. It's getting to the point that whomever Rory doesn't like turns out to be solid. Lol
My problem is that Ten Haag has given out the players private medical details.....
Seriously? That's unreal. He needs to be exposed and castigated for that.
You guys keep on making the case for Sancho. So everyone right now is telling me that Ten Hag is picking players based on performance... Antony is a starter, and Sancho isn't even on the bench. Maguire and Evans come in. There isn't a world where Antony is considered a starter, and Sancho isn't even considered bench worthy. I think Ten Hag plays favorites. He has media connections. He is allowed to go public. The club is allowed to go public. Players however cannot. If the argument is keeping things in house... that goes for everyone. Not just the players. Rashford was a terrible example. He was named on the bench that day. Was still giving an opportunity even after being late. Sancho wasn't even named to the team sheet. Let's not get it twisted. Ten Hag refuses to sub out Bruno, Rashford, and Antony. Those are his favorites. It will start to have an effect on other teammates. Especially deserving ones and especially when Ten Hag goes public with his reasons why he didn't pick someone.
Do we actually know the Ten Hag sending Sancho away was protecting him rather than banishing him from the team? Everyone viewed it as a positive thing but I'm not so sure
How do we need Sancho man never turns up it's like he hasn't been playing anyway even when he does
Jadon Sancho has a problem with not getting a starting place over an abuser. I'd be mad, too.
It's the money...ManU paid him a world class player wage as soon as he signed. It's so easy for a young player of his age to relax after securing a 200k pounds a week.
If I was playing bad on that money id let him say whatever about me 😂
i support ten hag, sick of player power and that most fans would rather have a manager sacked again
for 350k a week i would even consider cleaning the stadium after the games
Tory Jennings making an appearance 😳
Rory is a clown🤡 Sancho has ecery right to defend himself, especially from a manager, lets be honest, has fallen short of expectations since his arrival. Instead of taking accountability for his team's loss to arsenal, he instead threw a guy under the bus that wasn't even on the team sheet, embarrassing and weak move from him. Regardless if your a footballer, as a man, everyone has a right to defend themselves from a character assassination.
Rory don’t half chat shit! Rooney was the one always having a pop at Ronaldo! He retaliated! Not the way you say!
The disrespect towards Martinez is out of this world. He has been a great signing. Solid 8 out of 10 every game last season. How is that not even good in your books ? Such pathetic bs. If he was at any other club you would all be tickling his tacker begging he joins you
Personally, I don't think this is as much as it's been blown up to be. I don't think this is on the same level as the Kepa/Sarri incident, it's not even close to the Ronaldo/Ten Hag bust up. It seems to me like a player speaking their mind after being disgruntled at not playing, rather than him going after the manager.
That being said, if Sancho thinks his current levels are good enough when he's the highest paid player in the team, he should think again. I don't think theres a single United fan who would side with Sancho over Ten Hag. And if he does end up going (as early as January some reports are saying) rather than fighting for his spot, thats such a disappointment because I've been waiting for Sancho to have a proper 9 to work with since he came in, I thought there might be an opportunity for him to show the creative ability he has which Rashford and Antony don't, and you might see him take one of their spots.
Is Adam still part of this podcast he's never here... I'm much happier for it
im not gonna lie i lowkey think jadon did it so he could get a move
No top club is gonna be paying him 300k+ like United now though 😂
"I'm not gonna lie I low-key think" wtf does that even mean. Do you genuinely talk like that in real life. Why would you lie? Wtf is low key think? Where did you hear this bs and why did you chose to repeat it? Wtf is wrong with you?
United wants to sell him so it’s a win win
Sancho was good pre season he hasn't been given good minutes though
stats are only third to bruno and rashford
Its simple Half of the United players are not playing for the manager or the club they’re just playing for the pay check and it shows. When you play for the badge the club the fans and the manager the results automatically reflects because these players are not all bums but they’re playing like bums cus they really don’t care what happens.
bundesliga defenders are walking accidents
always make a point of ignoring the successes of attackers there
Take Wilfred Zaha and then zap all the Hunger, drive and pace out of him then you have Sancho.
Goater on the back see how far city have come with the kingdoms money. If he didn’t call sancho out what message would that send to other players! If he isn’t training correctly. He called rashford out aswell. No easy rides at United now sancho has been there for a while and simply hasn’t performed
Right, get it, Sancho now Public Enemy No 1, great timing TH, a triple whammy now with Sancho, Anthony and Greenwood, the soap opera continues
He always finds away of putting City in the Conversation 😅
You don’t fix a club like that in 1 year.
Fergie took 6 to get them a title.
The place is so badly run. Fergie papered over the rot the glazers caused.
There so many players who are writing cheques their ego can’t cash. Sancho and Mudryk need to get out England now, both are incapable of performing on a football pitch for whatever reason. I think they are a waste of time.
And now Utd have no wingers 😂😂😂
Most players response is prepared by their agents or PR handlers, because simply they lack the intellect or education to respond, Sancho is no exceptions, so who's his agent?
How can you be a scapegoat when Maguire is in your club?