The Problem With Kai Havertz
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2023
- @AdamMcKola, @RoryJenningsFootball & @Buvey debate why it's not working for Kai Havertz at Arsenal so far and whether Mikel Arteta has misjudged this signing or Havertz just needs time to settle at the club.
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The Havertz signing never made any sense really. To spend that amount of money on a player who looked average at best for Chelsea is mind boggling.
fr coulda saved the money and focused on a spot for trossard
@@alexlemelin3217 Im a Villa fan mate so got no like or dislike to Arsenal but that signing still doesn't make sense to me haha. Don't know what Arteta has planned for him at all
Good business from Chelsea
Arsenal was probably counting on Havertz getting back to Leverkusen levels after changing the scenery. They gambled and lost. Some players just don't thrive in the PL.
Only casual fans think this. Havertz’ profile is elite.
The problem with Kai Havertz is that he is a second striker, a position that basically doesn’t exist in modern football anymore.
(Btw Timo Werner is also a second striker and has the exact same issues).
For him to work you need to play in a 442 or a variation of it like a 4231 with Havertz being the number 10.
I would say the player most similar to Havertz is Thomas Muller. Both are Raumdeuters and love to move around a number 9 (Havertz did this at Leverkusen around Volland)
Do I think Havertz will ever be a good Premier league player? Absolutely not. This guys confidence was murdered and he most likely won’t recover from that and never be his former self.
The premier league and rival fans overall have a real issue with how they welcome new players in their league. Imagine being a young boy around 20yo, moving to a new country and everyday you see on Instagram or twitter how you get absolutely murdered in memes and fail compilations and people calling you shit.
Sancho, Anthony, Havertz, Nunez, the hate those guy received and how they got trolled would break any of us if we were in their boots.
You can’t compare Havertz to muller. Muller moves way more, is way more intelligent, actually can control a ball and takes risks. Havertz literally just back passes and is afraid of dribbling.
Muller at least adaptable in all position...But Havertz , he is none of that
@@siiir1322None of that exists if you don't look at it and at the end of the day we're quickly falling into a time where when a player doesn't perform it's everyone else fault but themselves, not in my world, there's hundreds if not thousands of footballer who deal with the same thing and they are ok.
oh shut up mate hes rubbish 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Playing partey at right back is like Rory suiting a short back and sides
Jesus haha
Havertz and Mount present the same issue.
Bought for their versatility, but neither manager has a clear idea of how they want to use them. That's how it seems to me at least.
mount is an academy player, what you sniffin'
@@dannyblad3863The above comment is referring to Arsenal and United, not Chelsea.
They weren’t bought for versatility. Mount was bought under the premise that Ten Hag can mould him into an #8. Havertz was bought because he has the tools to be one of the best strikers in the world.
As a man city fan this is exactly what people said about Jack Grealish the entirety of his first year, although he was given the benefit of the doubt a bit more because of his Aston Villa days, i think he needs at least half a season before making a decision
Jack is still a weak link for city tho especially playing against City you are happy when Jack slows everything down and has those predictable shots
Jack performed at villa. Havertz played 9 at chelsea for 3 years and has less than 20 prem goals. Totally different situations
@@Airyed how is he a weak link when you cant even disposses him? he is not creative but he fits perfectly in this city team.
@@void0350he slows the explosive attack of city allowing players to quickly get back to their defensive position
Havertz has been in the prem for over 3 years and been terrible. At least with Grealish he was good at Villa so earned the right to have time. Havertz needs to prove us wrong because his reputations is poor. We need to see more from him now, at least put in the effort and be brave to try things.
Havertz is Midfielder's Maguire
Who won a championship league final? Stop making a fool of yourself 😂
@@arjunmustaine1761 Chelsea sold Arsenal the trash based on that one match. It's a daylight robbery
I actually think Adam makes a good point that the inverted right back role that Partey is playing could be affecting Saka because it allows the defenders to focus more on and double up on Saka
Look at my comment
Rory saying Kai Havertz didn't really win the final for them and "when did he really turn up"? Now apply that to Fernando Torres which has a lot of direct parallels and he always says "he was bad but he won us the final and we'll always be greatful to him"...
Torres always worked hard, can’t say the same for Havertz.
Adam is correct at 7:30 - Partey is being played at RB because Zinchenko is injured, and Arsenal's system requires one of the LB/RB's to shift into midfield. As soon as Zinchenko is fit to start you'll see Partey back starting in midfield, and Havertz most likely benched
Zinchenko is not injured anymore.
Played nearly the full game in the charity match the day before the community shield.
You think Arsenal are going to let him play that if he was still injured?
When asked at the end of that game if he’d be playing the next day, he said it’s up to the boss because he’s fit and ready to go.
so u spent 65m on a bench player
@@theblackprotagonist5936 - Partey and Havertz were subbed off for Zinchenko and Viera during the game... When Zinchenko starts, you won't see Partey at RB
@@corachgambler - It appears so... not that there is anything wrong with spending $$ on squad players. Look at City
The problem is when Partey is playing RB, we don’t have the Ben White equivalent on the left to build up with Martinelli and Havertz, let alone Havertz is still adapting to the Arsenal game
10:25 Thanku for saying that Rory! You can be a footbalfan of your club and still be critical of it. Support doesn't mean blind devotion or nothing. We must learn to accept differences of opinion in footbal as well without having meltdowns. Argue the argument, not the person and accept that this is not just your world but everybody elses as well. Thanku
The problem with Kai Havertz is that Arsenal are trying so hard to fit him in, that it is to the detriment of so many other players. Havertz starting meant that Partey had to go RB, which then meant that White had to go CB, which then meant that Gabriel didn't even play. Just accept that you got hustled by Chelsea and move on.
I read that so many times and this is just so stupid and wrong.
Ever thought about the fact that Timber tore his ACL and Tomiyasu received a red card and that maybe that is the reason why Partey played RB (which he also played a few times last season).
Arteta could have just played Gabriel and White as a RB if he wanted to, but there are Saudi rumors around Gabriel and that is probably the reason why Arteta didn’t want to play him while he isn’t focused on the project.
This whole Partey RB narrative to make room for Havertz is just so painfully wrong and shows how blinded people are by their agenda
@@siiir1322 No
Wrong. Partey is playing right-back because Zinchenko is their only other inverted full-back option (he’s only getting back fully fit).
@siiir1322 it's not wrong. He doesn't want to drop Partey for Havertz, and the only way to have them both in the same team is to move Partey to Rb
lmao arteta doesn’t have any one to invert from the left, that’s why he’s switching it to the right with partey being the only player capable of inverting into midfield (so far) and the other 3 starters in cb and lb are all meant to be good on the ball and solid in a 3 at the back. it doesn’t have anything to do with havertz
Well, Chelsea managed to fuck up both Salah and De Bruyne. So, there might be something wrong with Chelsea.
Trossard is a must start on this arsenal team, not sure how he hasn’t been given more of a chance
Belgian media has spoken to Trossard and he said that if nothing changes he will talk to Arteta about it. I think he will start next weekend but we’ll see
No lol he is a championship star at best
Trossard had his worst game this week in an Arsenal shirt. Start Eddie there until Jesus is fully fit.
Where do you expect him to start? He isn't starting on the wings
@@trashed4005 Agreed but this was also his first start of the season as a false 9 which he doesnt normally play, havertz has been having his worst game for the past 3 years
Whats most worrying is the experiments make it look like they are trying to figure out if they can fudge the squad/line up to make do without Gabriel which would be insane after the Timber injury
You lot will look extremely silly when Havertz starts bagging goals.
Of course there are numerous other signings that other clubs have made that haven't succeeded, but I can't see what Arteta saw in Havertz that made him say "I really want him." There is a decent player in there but I think he only works in very specific systems.
Havertz is a decent player, his finishing and final pass have a lot of room for improvement though. I think he would be a good backup to Odegaard in non-league games, but should not be starting if the squad is healthy.
the media won't say anything about how they moved Kai havertz to Munich or Madrid
Managers don't do what fans ask for because they aren't even listening to the fans, they block all that out. The Havertz signing was simply to replace Xhaka, but even though Harvertz has more potential than Xhaka he fundamentally lacks Xhaka's mental strength. Harvertz is a data signing, not a performance signing. He will fail if Artera doesn't get the psychological aspect of managing him right. Personally, I believe Havertz just doesn't have a big club mentality. Compare him to Rice and you'll see that instantly.
You will never see a arsenal fan debating about those 2 fans teams 😅😅😅
It is a big game next game. I think would still start him but if he is a ghost again he gets pulled at half.
The thing about Arteta is he will keep playing this again and again. Remember the talk between Roy and Cahill where everyone including Arsenal fans, lengend, rivals were criticizing Arteta and most wanted him gone, but he stuck with Xhaka and Ben White until the system finally worked. If you say duds like Willan, he actually played decent for Fulham ....
Pep decided that dont invert the right back but push Stones into midfield but Partey is a natural midfielder trying to be a right back and its not working. a double pivot with him and Rice would work well as it frees up the front 4 to do their thing he could then swap Odegaard with Havertz as part of a rotation and that would work well
Partey played RB in Spain... Get your facts right.. The system works, the goals aren't coming that's the problem and the defense too
Havertz is a player that will look good once the rest of the team is clicking. As an Arsenal fan, my main concern is the rest of the team not clicking like we were last season. With time and once everyone is gelled I’m sure havertz will perform.
They ain’t clicking because Havertz is in the game
I think at the start of the season most managers play around with formations and players in different positions just to see what works and what doesn't. Pep does it all the time and that's why City always start most seasons with poor results, but once he knows what works they go into a crazy winning run. I think that's what arteta is doing here
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Can someone explain how Mount to ManUnited has some logic behind it? Because Mount is neither a box to box player nor a playmaker. We needed a box to box player.
Gabriel not starting makes all the sense in the world if you understand how Arsenal play. Zinchenko(and Timber) being out meant we had to flip the dynamic with the RB(Partey) inverting and the LB tucking in(occasionally overlapping), unless you want to play Gabriel out of position at LB, he had to be dropped.
White at RB, Partey back to CDM, Gabriel back in at CB with Saliba, Tomiyasu/Kiwior at LB. Exactly how it worked last season.
it makes no sense unless you want to overcomplicate things. football doesn't alway need to be complicated
@@jondoe-du2frthat’s fine if you’re playing City. Against the smaller teams it’s too defensive, against Fulham we found ourselves with too many people behind the ball as is
@@Ray03595just because you don’t understand doesn’t mean it’s overcomplicating things
@@TheCofarrell not playing your best players so you can play others out of position is overcomplicating things. Especially when it doesn't even look like the team understands.
Kai Havertz can still play a key role in Arsenals season
The problem according to me is that Havertz actual best position is the CAM or the second striker depending on the formation something very similar to Muller Havertz is very good outside the box linking the play but inside the box he is IDK what on God does he do there but Muller has better finishing than him in there and Musiala is a all round much better version of him at German National Team soo at Arsenal who occupies the CAM role its the Captain Martin Odegaard so Arteta cant replace him and he has to play on the wings which is not the best position for him
Rory has never been so correct about a player
😂😅
Well he basically resonates most of Chelsea fast food fans
Toxic and reactionary
Their whole existence is based on one match
@@mchannel1365 Not sure how watching a player for 3 years is reactionary?
Arteta thinking he can make Havertz come good is delusion, thinks he’s in some kinda movie
Every single person apart from Arteta knew Havertz wasn’t going to be a good signing
So every single person apart from Arteta was wrong
The reason havertz doesn't seem to have urgency is because he is still unsure of the few roles we are teaching him.
Maybe talk about Chelsea flops before 😅
There are 20 of them at least
Salah and DeBruyne were Chelsea "flops"
Flop? It's only 3 matches
I'm not a Havertz fan, but Arteta said himself in a recent post match interview "He gets into good positions and never receives the ball. He should have scored many times already".
The Different Knock channel did a video on this way before this interview, recognising the same thing. "Havertz keeps running into good spaces, but our players don't see it or think it's too risky to give him the ball so another pass is made".
He scored 2 in pre-season and was instrumental in making it difficult for city to play out from the back in the community shield.
So in essence, his off the ball movement is pretty good, once the team recognises this the goals should come.
Well that remains to be seen. At the end of the day I just want to see results and right now he's not producing any, but this does give me hope going forward.
So according to Adam. Arteta wanted to get rid of Partey, but he couldn't for some reason. So he decides to start him in the PL out of position. And that is to punish who exactly?
Havertz at Arsenal seems a similar story with Griezmann at Barca.
not really because Griezmann was unreal at Madrid
I’ve never seen any of these give a half decent football opinion. We play Partey at RB because our system uses inverted full backs and Zinchenko was injured. Havertz statistically has been fine for us and Gabby was dropped because he struggles 1vs1 when we play a high line, it’s call strategy boys.
..and you think it's working do you?? Ffs you've not seen Arsenal play yet this season.
Oh look at that. How can you defend Havertz? He's been absolutely awful for us so far. Its not about the system but his ability on the ball, positioning, will to fight, tracking back and shooting is horrendous. Give him time? How long? He actually makes Arsenal worse and doesn't improve our first 11. Benching him right now would be the best outcome. Also he is a top earner. He earns more than Saka, Odegaard or Saliba. How come? Awful signing! People say oh it's only 3 games but they forgot its been 3 years and 3 days in England.
We should of protested on front of the emirates as soon as we new he was going to sign for us
Obviously the league comes into play but haverts in Germany was playing like a free role behind the striker.. now he’s playing midfield or striker or even on the wing.. doesn’t make any sense. If you sign a player and don’t change the way they play what’s the point if you’re not gonna play them in their preferred role?
As a german and knowing what Havertz did at Leverkusen, it is just so painful to listen to English fans talk about him.
Lampard murdered his confidence by playing him out of position, then the fans started to call him shit and now he will never be the same player.
They think it’s a coincidence that all these big money moves like Havertz, Mudryk, Anthony, Sancho, Pepe, Di Maria and so on failed in England.
They never think about the fact that it doesn’t help players having the entire English media and rival fans at your throat after not performing well after 3 games.
@@siiir1322it's part and parcel of being a footballer and has been for donkeys years. I remember Beckham being villified by every fan in the country after his sending off in the 98 world cup. But hos mentality was so good that he overcame it and had his best ever season in his entire career.
@@siiir1322brilliant comment I don’t think havertz has once played where he did in Germany in the premier league . I think there’s a quality player there he just haven’t been given a chance to play where he thrives , 3 games in and people are just using him as a scapegoat .
I thought it was our fault at chelsea for havertz struggling 😂😂😂
It amazes me how people in this country (and dumb coaches) still don't how to play Havertz, if you want the best out of Havertz you have to see how he played for Leverkusen because that is where he played his best football and had his break out season that got him a move to the prem..He's a 10 or a deep line attacking midfielder who plays best in counter attack, he likes the ball played in front of him and he likes to receive midfield in transition when the oppositions play breaks down and then he breaks forward and links up with the players at the top end of the pitch to create opportunities..He is not a striker or false 9 like he was played at Chelsea and never will be, and he will not work in a possession based team who are camped in the oppositions half playing give and go's, 1-2's or triangles with his back to goal like Arsenal do he's ineffective in that style of play...Unfortunately for Arsenal Arteta will have to get far more creative with Havertz to get the best out of him and that would be at the expense of how they like to play...Bad signing for your team Mikel !
Look at this comment section expert who thinks he knows more than managers who get paid millions. Bro Havertz doesn’t have a position. His best position is bench! How can a player with poor awareness, shooting ability and average dribbling, passing be a starter at the highest level in the EPL?
10:39 my ninja *Djemba Djemba* was no scrub🤣🤣
Same can be said for Mount.
I think he was signed because arteta wanted to replace xhaka and partey with havertz and rice. The thing is, partey has ended up staying so he's stuck with a £65 mil signing that has to be forced into the team + rice who plays better with partey next to him
man said I don't count the FA Cup🤣
The problem this season is Arteta - just one good season and now he thinks he can turn water into wine with his stupid tactics. Questionable agenda towards some first starters, experimentations , tinkering way too much with the team which is already proving to be disruptive.. I wouldn’t even rule out united getting a result next Sunday cause of arteta’s stubbornness.
Because Havertz hasn't scored or assisted in 3 games he's getting slated. He's been good in my opinion, he works hard and creates space and opportunity for other forward players
I would say playing partey at right back is because he wants a full back to invert the timber injury and zinchenko not ready to start is the reason he’s playing there, if partey is still at right back when zinchenko starts I’ll be baffled
3 games people. Meanwhile Rory and Adam will tell you Mudryk, Antony & Sancho haven't flopped.
All flops but Havertz is the worst out of them.
3 professional games in an Arsenal shirt…
Enough
This is obviously a follow on from his career at Chelsea. It’s not just 3 games.
As an Arsenal fan I think it’s been overblown a bit because he came for 65mil from Chelsea. He had a good game against City, was alright against Forest, did very well defensively against Palace, and was poor against Fulham. Baring in mind we haven’t played well in any of the last three games I’m not really panicking(yet) and I’ll still give him a chance. Could notice quite a few fans getting on his back on the weekend so hopefully that doesn’t get to him. #1 thing he needs is support.
Thank you. It’s amazing how quick people’s minds are made up. He has not made any bad plays that I haven’t seen other front players make. I truly hope he proves people wrong. I’m rooting for him
It's not the price tag alone that is the issue. It's what we all saw him do (or not do) for Chelsea that's the problem. So far, the defence for Havertz' time at Chelsea has been that he played in the wrong position. But, unless he was played in defence, his position on the pitch didn't make him miss easy chances that he should have buried, give the ball away or play the ball backwards more often than not, fail to make good runs into advantageous positions like he did at Leverkusen, make his demeanor come across like he doesn't care. These are mannerisms that we all saw in Ozil (in parts), Willian (more often that not) and Auba (once his head dropped) and they all ended horribly. Therefore, why Arteta has chosen to go down this road again is beyond me. When you pay any amount for a player that you know has a tendency to disappear in games, you're asking for trouble. As a comparsion, and I hate to say it. Just look at what Maddison has done in 3 games for them lot over the road. For £40m they got a player that is more creative, a better passer/crosser, better on the ball, better at reading the game, better defensively/at tracking back and more agressive/determined on the pitch than Havertz. The only thing Havertz is better than Maddison at is heading, and the fact that he is a couple years younger. What makes it even worse is that we got Trossard on the bench who has already shown he can link up very well with our front guys. So, the only way us fans will ease up on Shy Havertz (as he is known) is when he shows us something that we haven't already seen of him in the Prem. He's only 24, so I hope he finds that Leverkusen form real quick because 9 times out of 10 you don't win titles/cups with passengers when going up against City.
arsenal are playing poorly cause he's messing up the chemistry. Observe how we revert to our last season playing style any time he subs off.
You are talking trash
You and @mcases2978 are right the fans should be backing him not breaking his spirit and it wasn't Kai who fucked up it was Arteta with that brain dead formation
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No urgency to his play, lack of proper body language and his presence brings changes to a team that needed minor tweaks rather than a system change... Chelsea robbed us again simple.
Take pride out of the way, yes it’s not good for havertzs confidence but him starting and switching up the team could cost us heavily maybe even the league
Arsenal have literally thrown away their chances of winning the title just like that 😂it's comedy gold mate
Havertz is Arsenal's highest paid player by a mile. It will be hard to drop him.
Pretty sure arsenal have 7 out of 9 points so far. The season is long. I'm sure Havertz will help them over 55 games or so. Maybe he will prove an expensive squad player but they are an expensively assembled bunch of players.
Havertz needs easing into the squad. Too many changes in one go is disrespectful to our opponents and we don't have a goal scorer to help matters. Experimentation is needed to grow to the next level as Arsenal fell sort last season but they will drop points as part of the process.
Havertz needs to stay on the bench
I've come to see the light and I definitely think Arteta will sell a player who he only just signed and will start ESR, who barely got a game even when fit last season.
Did they do a show for Mount Antony Richarlson Mudyrk after 3 games let alone a season?
What was the “Huh” Rory did at 2:02?
Its really kinda crazy how everybody sees what Arteta doesnt.... what were they thinking
Everything said here was spot on.
the obvious problem is Zinchenko being injured, because Arteta wants to make his left fulback invert. When he cant play a leftback invert and choose to make the right sided one invert, It makes Ben White a rightsided defender i a back threee rather than a central defeender. And because there is no1 else on the left fullback who can invert, he needs to play Partey on the right, because he can "kinda" invert and play like the 2nd holding midfielder (but he needs to be the rightsided holding midfielder, therefore rightback instead of leftback). All this makes Arsenals progression wierd cuz players "natural" position changes in the build-up,I dont think its time to bring a verdict on Havertz when being played in a system which isnt being deployed right yet.
Waiting on the videos of the problem with Anthony, the problem with Mudryk, the problem with Foden. Cheers guys
Problem is others came to new league so needed time to adjusted. Havertz has been shit for Chelsea most times.
@@frankreynolds9930 doesn't matter if you played in the league, grealish is the perfect example
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I won’t be surprised Havertz starts tomorrow against Utd since there’s the rumour of Partey picking an injury. I ha thought it would be a Partey, Rice & Odegaard midfield.
When people said they were signing Havertz to play in their midfield as an 8 I was confused. He’s a 10 that can fill in as a winger or 9. Not an 8.
He’s only a striker or second-striker.
I mean, it's not fair to say chelsea were a terrible team with havertz in it. It think it is more accurate to say, Chelsea were a terrible team, and havertz was one of eleven players that did not work in that terrible team
He was poor. He played every game and most times did nothing.
Arsenal will really need that labrador named win for comfort after seeing Havertz play
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On what have karrotz a credits?
No addition to de team, but laziness unbalance with his label price and wages, he should do more and fans expect to see more thans 2/10 passes.
Tucel won us the champions league. Not Havertz.
Don’t know how many comments about personal opinions you read… but my person opinion is go back to last season Ben white as you said and I agree was one of the best right backs in the league and in the system he basically dropped into centre back anyway and went on little runs to support Saka as his cuts inside which I haven’t seen much of apart from that goal at forest then saliba and Gabriel have to start together one of the best partnerships in the in league id even go as far as probably Europe… alright Zinchenko has been injured but last season we was all saying ‘no defender inverts as well as him he’s unique!’ He can cover the left and shift rice over to the right which makes more sense as Saka and Ødergard with rice, white and saliba behind them can go and do what they did best last season they’d be safe to take on their men and if they lose it on make a mistake those players behind them are more than capable between them to get that ball back and start again then you got Gabriel zinchenko behind who ever is the attacking midfielder it Havertz isn’t dropped and Martinelli as zinchenko complemented Martinelli last season with the passes to him in behind and safe passes back because zinchenko is so composed and comfortable which gives them freedom, also it’s not like Martinelli is lazy he gets back to help same as Saka does… obviously I believe veira has to start against Man U after his 20 minute cameo he was brilliant at the weekend also had a solid pre season in my eyes also maybe that’ll wake Havertz up a bit sat on the bench because at the moment its looking like he can just have a mediocre game and he knows he playing next week so arteta needs to be ruthless and drop him for a big game like United to show that you either perform 100% or your minutes are limited and Nketiah HAS to start as he’s come on last season when Jesus has been injured and kept our season going he didn’t lose us the league last season that’s for sure and he’s played 3 games scored 2 should’ve had one at palace but he got us that penalty and trossard doesn’t stay up top his gets in the way on the attacking midfielders almost stepped on Havertz toes for 50 minutes dropping deep so I’ll give Havertz a bit of slack there because we moan at Havertz but Ødergard didn’t do much either but mainly because trossard was dropping to deep and they couldn’t get balls into someone who’s not in the position to finish them but yeah last season was perfect but i understand the new system not a fan of it at the moment but I believe it can work if you use the right players for it and if it doesn’t then last seasons tactics it is if it isn’t broke don’t fix it but yeah that back line with rice covering the right and zinchenko coming into midfield not only has more defensive stability but the composure and control in the middle will be so high quality don’t get me wrong partey is an extremely good player but this just isn’t working and if we keep forcing it just have to drop him for a bit there’s plenty of games we can use him in like the champions league and FA cups because if we don’t fix this then I’m afraid Man City will be miles ahead and it may not be 2nd as Liverpool, Tottenham and man u or even Chelsea will be knocking we’ll be fighting for champions league football as we will drop 10/15 points off it just making it work for next few weeks… forest was poor, palace was poor and this weekend was just unacceptable so we need to figure something out this weekend could be a disaster at home
ONLY Arteta knows why he signed him.
Lol who's doing the thumbnails?
He’s played 4 games for a new club and in a position that he’s not used to playing. I’m a Utd fan but you can see there’s a player in Havertz but his confidence looks shot at the minute.. Arsenal should’ve kept Xhaka to be honest, he was brilliant last season
Arsenal almost won it last season. A signing should be replacing like for like or improving the squad. Havertz hasn't ticked either of those boxes.
Rory's had a big boys haircut
Marinelli should be the striker with trossard and saka as the wingers
Arsenal fan here and I'm sick of sporting Chelsea's reject collection. Apart from Gallas, we've never had a good purchase from Chelsea.
Nice trim Rory
We used to shout torres name every single game he played, even though the rest of the league was tacking the mick. You need to support your players
People have forgotten about Zinchenko..
I think him not being available forces MA to put another "attacker" cs Zin is that, just from fullback
Zinchenko is also flop?:)
@@sergeshakhov8582 how did you extract that from my comment? 💁♂️
@@KR-jg7gci am just aksing:), the video about bum Havertz but you mentioned Zina
@@sergeshakhov8582 I don't understand how you got "flop" from my comment, maybe you're not good with English i don't know
Haverts has to play as an extra attack minded player because Zin isn't on the pitch. Zin is an attack minded player, just from fullback. im assuming that is what arteta is possibly thinking, plus he's a nee big money signing
he clearly have a plan. he saw what the first 3 teams was and think he could get him in agains those
I think what people still need to realise is that bar the last 5 minutes against Fulham, Arsenal were on course for 3/3 wins and in that Fulham game they created the most XG the whole weekend. People need to relax man
It’s easier to play against 11 men playing there game trying to win than it is against 10 men shutting up shop hoping for the occasional break leading to a shot or corner
Manchester City have reached a verbal agreement with Wolves for midfielder Matheus Nunes
Felix for fati is perfect for me 2 players need a change but abde has a solid place in the team imo with dembele out and Raphinha injured abde and torres are only options and we're getting rid of one ??
Kia miss a open goal last match I felt it 😢
At the moment it feels like Mikel is trying to turn z frog into a princess with Havertz!
When we've got our current system of 3-2-2-3 working with Jesus back, I think we'll find we're simply better of with Havertz in the team. When Jesus was out Xhaka, who played a similar role, was decent but not great. With Jesus Xhaka's number sky rocketed and it's worth seeing the same thing will happen with Havertz as with Xhaka.
Also, this would be our ideal lineup(imo)
Martinelli-Jesus-Saka
Havertz-Odegaard
Zinchenko-Rice/Partey
Gabriel-Saliba-White
Ramsdale
In that side with have many players capable of playing the ball, but other than the front three we would be very static and Havertz would simply improve us by moving around between the lines and creating space for the rest, he wouldn't get credit, but he would make us better when the rest works.
Also, people saying he was the reason for Partey moving to rb are wrong, we were doing that last season with Xhaka and it's nothing to do with Havertz.
It could have been for us like for example signing a bad player like mount
The problem with Kai Havertz is that he is an awful player. He should play in the Championship or something. That’s his level
It’s 3 games in.. This is going to age brilliantly 😂
He might have 5 genuinely good games all season. Doesn't make him good though does it.
This is what happens when you pick the wrong team , Kai was a sensational player , i believe there's a player in there who can easily get you 15 league goals .
But what do Kai , Draxler , Werner have in common ? Rejecting LFC , Kai could've been the best replacement for Bobby , to keep playing that false 9 system and imagine all 3 players in LFC , imagine the success they could've had and how much everything would've suited them .
Except Bobby was a natural striker and was gifted enough to play false 9 under klopp.
Bobby was a Brendan's signing and Klopp actually knew of Bobby's versatility back in BL.
Kai and Timo should have picked to play under Klopp....he knew BL players well while Pep Ljinders have a boner for the Primera Liga😅
Kai Havertz is not a false 9 his finishing is terrible so is his first touch, its the same with Joao Felix they are overhyped but are not good players. Firmino is in a league of his own and his finishing was class so was his first touch. The other two its really lacking which is the main problem.
Loooool seems like everyone rejects LFC. Kai was never that guy, just played in a small league
Kai and 15 goals??? Hahaha please
@@Ruscococo1benfica fan here i have to respond, i think Joao Felix never should have left for Atleti the season he did. He only played consistent professional football for half a season at Benfica and went for a crazy prize and he honestly was a panic purchase from Atleti trying to replace Griezmann. But the absolute top teams in Europe dont have a place for a player like Felix because he has to shine as the main man of the squad. Then again staying at Benfica a little longer wouldve benefitted him more than going to a club that doesnt fit him with unreasonable pressure. He is a great gifted player though and i hope he gets to find a good system for him
I always thought Havertz can be a decent CM because of his height and control. He has a good touch, lol. But he doesn't ever play the right pass.
Relatively high wages compare to our squad? Havertz is top earner at Arsenal nobody earns 330k per week. I kind of understand if player banging in goals and contributing to the success but Havertz? He's been bang average for 3 years and he has the best contract at Arsenal. That's what angers most Arsenal fans. I'm sure players are not happy about it. They work their socks off and he just came in and is rubbish. The thing is everyone knew about Havertz and how bang average he really is but to make him top earner at Arsenal is just bad.
It's so weird. I don't get managers sometimes. Same with us at United. Who on earth thought 55m for Mount was a good idea.