Yes sir. These games are phenomenal. I just got will of wisps on switch and it's solo good. I also just bought that awesome collectors edition from Iam8bit.
Moon Studios where able to achieve that, what RARE was doing with Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country Diddy's Kong Quest. They created out of nothing two timeless classics.
funny thing is it is if anything too beautiful, I actually stop playing for a couple days because all the non stop whimsy makes me nauseous in such large amounts. XD Also Metroidvania games get boring after 30 minutess.
As long as we never lose the option to own the games on PHYSICAL DISCS or CARTRIDGES. That is my only gripe with services like Game Pass or the almost defunct Stadia.
@@BORMo1976 So many reviews are sans day-one-patch level of performance. At least John here waited to get and test it with that patch and the majority of the slowdowns are eliminated. TBH other than a couple of periods right near the start that were clearly framerate compromised, I've not noticed a single drop in the 3-4 hours I've played so far.
@@dushikorsou1 to get an accurate feel for the final release, OF COURSE. Doing anything else misrepresents the game the end user will be playing. The first one to put out a review is doing it for pathetic ego and clicks, not something that should ever be encouraged.
@@BORMo1976 After the amount of time and work that went into making this lovely game I wouldn't expect anything else... it would be a shame to leave it as it is!!
Xbox has killed it with gamepass. Literally nothing is more gamer/consumer friendly. I just wish i liked platformers. The graphics and color chart is amazing.
That Car Guy Why do people even think like this? Lol it's just a subscription service and it's rather expensive for the limited amount of games it offers especially since most of them are pretty old. You also need a gold subsciption in order to access online modes which is really dumb imo
@@chrisoctane Thanks for the reply, ive tried it, but i just don't like platformers. It's just not for me. That being said, like I stated above, the game is beautiful and those that love platformers, i hope this keeps going in the right direction for you.
This game is Q U A L I T Y. I'm loving it. And because of that, I'm savouring it taking my time and not blasting through in like 1 or 2 full days. Atm, I'm at the part where I have the ability to dig/drill underground. The sandy section.
i just got triple jump and that lash ability, things are much easier now after i met the "villagers". Now i need the ability to swim in black water, or, as Moki says: sad water. lol
@@BORMo1976 It was already dumb enough calling Games with Gold "free", calling Game Pass games "free" is stupidity on a whole other level. Also, you're really going to put an extremely mediocre game like Super Lucky's Tale on the same list as Ori and Cuphead?
@@leeviheiskanen1271 with that logic netflix is free, thats not how it works. Xbox gamepass is incredible value for money no one is arguing against that, but its not free :D
Ork Diktator expensive patch ! Thats not an excuse : "dont worry, with our next gen console itll be fine !"The game is on ONE platform and PC and they cant make it run properly.
I finished part one earlier this year on Xbox One. Absolutely incredible game. Seriously the best I've played in years. Genuinely difficult on Hard mode, too. Reminded me of platformers from the 90s. Just brutal but never frustrating.
Oktus Prime I game on every system because that’s what real gamers do. Maybe you should try it, although saying that, I’m guessing you’ll need to ask your mammy’s permission first 🤦🏼♂️
@@GMACF1 I think most reviews were made with prerelease version of game in mind. Many of performance issues were fixed in Day 1 patch. Which is a shame because this basically only major flaw that is mentioned across all reviews that lowers it's score Edit: Alright, this is mentioned in review
I agree, they should have waited to review until the bugs were fixed, which was done a little while ago. A couple weeks after the game came out. It's a shame that they didn't. This game deserves a 10 out of 10. Looks beautiful on my Xbox One X.
@@desertfish74 It's a masterpiece, and one of the best games ever made. The Witcher 3 and Zelda BotW still have frame drops, even after dozens of patches.
Playing on X and I have gotten periods where the game stutters and continues to stutter until i restart the game. First started around the mill and pops up every now and then.
For somebody like John who’s job it is to look for issues, this would be a problem but to me, the games is so awesome that the small hiccups weren’t really an issue. I was just in awe. However, I still appreciate these critiques.👍🏽
Even my RTX 2070 can’t handle native 4K 60 with this game, I have to drop it down to 1800p for it to run smooth 99% of the time, still really beautiful though
That's fair but considering it does well in most instances to keep 60fps I don't see the issue they pretty much got best of both it's not perfect but it's still impressive considering how terrible the CPU is on the consoles. Imagine the x with a real CPU at launch it would of put many rigs to shame which is why next gen is important. More storage and ram and a proper CPU I reckon performance issues will be light next gen. That's if corona virus dosen't fuck up shit more than it has
I was playing along hoping for another "Waters Cleansed" moment like in Blind Forest when you open up the Ginso Tree and the Moon Grotto becomes this gorgeous place that had me grinning like a kid, and boom, Sanctuary in the Glades. Enchanting is the only word that describes it for me. I'm in love with these games. Art design, music and great gameplay perfected.
the second chase sequence had my framerate so low the game literally ran in slowmotion... and with only 50% GPU usage and less than that CPU usage. so there are performance issues with this game and it is 100% software related.
The Ori games are some of my personal favorite plaformers of all time. I play on PC via steam. There's no HDR options and I read a comment on another youtube video saying that the devs are still working on proper HDR implementation on the PC version. I normally have HDR ON in windows 10 display settings. I do have a custom color profile I made with my Spyder and I set digital vibrancy to 60% in the nvideo color controls. Overall this makes windows use not washed out. And I use a 43" HDR 4K monitor on a 1080TI. With this setup Ori play at full 4k and can do 60 fps but with the stuttering as experienced in the video. However I created a custom 21:9 resolution of 3840x1646 to see how the game looks and I have to say it takes full advantage of the ultra wide resolution and the panoramic view of the game is all there. Yes my screen is blank at the top and bottom but that cinematic look with this beautiful art style is incredible. Then switching back to normal SDR on the desktop and the game runs buttery smooth. Not hitching at all.
I had to stop playing because I’m at a point where the frame drops are actually noticeable and hurting the gameplay. It’s especially noticeable being a veteran of the original, it really hurts the experience. Hopefully there is a patch sometime this week because I WAS enjoying it a lot.
Got it on Steam, literally encountered one visual bug in the 10h of my current playtime (not done yet) and that was it. First load took a while, but that was it, installed on a 7200 RPM HDD. No frame dips with a 7y old i5-4670k CPU and a GTX1080, but that's to be expected. :'D
So strange. The first thing i noticed was the amazing performance i achieved with this game. A constant 144 fps on my GTX 1070 @ 1440p. Loading times and everything are perfectly fine from an SSD. Looks like the game just wasn't very well optimized for consoles and only tested on PCs.
I think he mainly played the game on XBox and that's where he noticed all the major problems. The PC version he played seems to be the one from the MS Store, which might be the reason for the performance issues he noticed. Maybe the UWP version doesn't work as well as a native Win32 app that you would get from Steam. So maybe it isn't a console problem and it's just an UWP problem, that has to be solved.
I had major performance issues on my 2080ti before they issued an 8GB patch. It was so poor I played the Xbox One X version (it's crossplay so your save carries over) It's been fine since the patch though.
@Van Dammage To be completely honest i only reached 140 fps, because i have it limited to 140 fps in the Nvidia driver, because of my Gsync monitor. I only said 144 Hz, because i didn't wanna explain the difference in a lengthy post. The result is the same though. I reach the maximum framerate i can get with my setup which is 140 fps (basically the same as 144 fps). vSync is disabled, since i have a Gsync Monitor limited to 140 fps. I use RTSS to rendering a fps counter and a frametime historgram graph in every game at my machine to check if everything runs smooth. Consistent and stable frametimes are the most important thing to me in every game. Even more important than a high framerate. After reading all these post I'll run some tests with CapFrameX, though. Then I'll know what's up.
The new update adds HDR for the PC and updates it for the Xbox. They really dialed it in and it went from looking fantastic to spectacular. You guys should revisit it and compare pre to post update.
12:30 microsoft store is a joke overall in windows 10. Limiting download speed, crashes and games stopping downloading, some games doesnt work (rage 2), etc. I spent 5 hours to download ori because the download speed was instable. At the same time, i downloaded a game from steam store and i reached top speed of my isp provider.
@@baconwhip i was downloading ori from microsoft store and it was in low speed, then i decided to donwload another game from steam just for test. Steam was normal. I downloaded a game with 3gb in couple of minutes but ori's download was in low speed, even the download from steam was finished. Do you understand or i have to draw?
There seems to be a weird bug that doesn't affect everyone where overall performance suffers significantly. I ran into this problem once where framerates were extremely low (15 fps or less?) and a restart on my Xbox was needed. I also had loading problems where the initial load time took more than 5 minutes before I was able to get into the game (and a few times where the game would just get stuck in the title screen). About loading, I also noticed variable loading when opening up the map or any other menu. Sometimes it's instant, sometimes takes a second.
@@andyward8430 Hopefully was just a one-time thing. I've read about others with a similar issue and it not getting fixed even after a hard reboot. My loading problem was strange though because it happened after I restarted my Xbox. Then it fixed itself the next day.
The windows store has some set-up requirements that mean you have to choose any disk you want to install games to as the system set "where new apps are saved" before you can successfully install to that drive. As long as you've set it up once, though, you can then choose that disk when installing. Definitely something people with only one disk won't notice, but since I use three, I've had to wrestle with it before.
Spot on review. Ori 2 is amazing, but it was very awkward having regular hiccups on my pc with an 2080S and a 165hz 1440p monitor when the first game ran so nicely on my poor little Switch.
Honestly playing on the X1X i didnt notice the sustained drops drops during general traversal at all, defiantly nothing near 40fps which i really feel like i would have noticed... weird, only temporary drops in really heavy combat moments. I did have the really bad freezing and hitching when moving between areas, it was way worse than any sustain drops, i surprised you mentioned it so briefly. playing on the 120hz output btw. PC version also downloaded fine for me, but I did it through the xbox beta app, not the store, maybe that would work for you. Though when actually in the game i had sound issues with that version, no frame rate issues though. Edit: so i reinstalled it on PC and that seems to have fixed my sound issues, so thats good.
A quick stop-gap could be to have a 1080p60 mode on X and a 30fps limiter for S. Say what you will about 30, but I would rather a solid 30 over wavering between 30 and 60 all of the time. I mean, it's one thing on my pc to just live with a few dips to 50-ish (for those poorly optimized pc ports that crop from time to time) and allow tearing and another one entirely when the frames are very unstable and shoot all over the 30-to-60 range. I will play this on X with downsampling in a week or two to allow for some patching. FWIW - my experience with downloads via the Xbox (Beta) App has been better than with the store, and since they are supposed to use much of the same functionality (two different front ends to the same back end, to put it overly simply), I have to wonder if some of the minor differences in how that works means anything of if my experience is just luck of the draw.
According to reviews, the only thing of note that is wrong with the PC version (WS/Xbox App) is a lack of HDR support at the time me posting - perhaps I will just play that and hope my 2070S SC Ultra powers past any port issues. I have Gamepass Ultimate from that crazy conversion deal (convert all Gamepass and XBL gold to Gamepass Ultra for 1$), so checking the Steam version doesn't really make any sense (some of the Steam reviews mention bugs, however).
There is a chance that the team might use the new DOTS (data-oriented technology stack) feature to stream in and instance objects in the future. This could help with the hitching if possible to implement.
@@igorthelight They could automate the rewrite though. A simple parser written in c# could even do the work. Seeing as they probably use inheritance for their characters / enemies it would probably suffice to convert the base model into an entity / component and system files structure.
I'm playing in an s it literally shut my xbox down twice trying to start the game. I'm about 3 hours in and the game freezes for about 7 seconds to bring up the map and when I die and respwan the game freezes for like almost 10 seconds
🚧TIPS: DISABLE MOTION BLUR! This makes the gameplay way better. Loving it, way better than the 1st game in every way. Specially the combat is fun and the graphic is so beautiful. Music is great but to me its not as much as the original. 9 out of 10 🌟
For this type of game Why would you need ray traced global illumination? Seems a lot of the background is semi static. What would it improve? Could you give me a bit more specific case where this would enhance the visuals so I will understand what you have in your mind :)
@@BORMo1976 Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale are not exclusives... Microsoft released it on Xone, PC and Switch (only Ori 2 isn't on Switch)... It's more like "Games not for Playstation".
This game is like a paint that you can see how is alive and moves and you are part of that beautiful paint is a master piece of you don’t like art you still gonna love playing this game this game is many things in once is a paint that you bring back to live when you playing through it beautiful art
Dudes, I'm not the biggest platform gamer in the world but I will tell you that this is, by far, the most beautiful platforming game I have ever played in my life. At the beginning of the game it almost feels like you're playing an interactive Pixar movie, it's that good. Edit: what are these performances issues John is taking about? I guess it's just a console thing because pc is rock solid.
Beautiful game all the way around. Graphics, sound, animations, they are all amazing. I run this off gamepass on my pc, and it runs buttery smooth at 1440p on my 35" widescreen monitor, never had a crash or any issues with this game or the previous one.
It works well on my PC at least. It can't quite hold the 100fps all the time, but I don't think I have seen it drop below 80 at any time. That's good enough for me. Feels very fluid.
so, my rig (3600x stock/5700xt ) runs it after the update in HDR/4k with everything ON,except Motion blur @120 fps with dips rarely to 80 frames. Overall great performance and it indeed looks AMAZING. Hope with a driver update from amd gets even better. Fine Wine is NOT a myth....
The Microsoft store doesn't use standard executables, and what they do use is absolute total garbage. I won't go within a mile of it. If this game had been exclusive to the Windows store as was originally planned, I would've skipped it entirely. I bought it on Steam and I haven't had any performance problems (not a single dropped frame - I should point out that I have a high end PC that is many times more powerful than the Xbox 1X though). I have had a couple of minor audio glitches but those are rare and also known and due to be fixed.
Exactly, the Microsoft Store and its DRM is complete garbage. You're limited to locked immovable files (You can't move games between HDD or SSD), hidden Windows directories, unmmodable games, games that can refuse to launch due to certain Windows settings, games that can also refuse to launch due to Windows not being fully updated to the latest Feature Update, or the Windows Store simply being corrupted sometimes requiring a full fresh Windows 10 reinstall to fix. To top it all off, I've also had cloud saves on certain Windows Store games not working or being unreliable.
it looks gorgeous, but... the zoom out is too much, the character looks too small. on this kind of games I prefer the camera closer, like in super metroid, castlevania symphony of the night, rayman, pitfall, the "standard" zoom and size.
Could it be the game is more ambitious than the Unity engine? For some reason the game performs better if you reset the console, reinstall, or move to internal.
I played the game on PC with 512GB NVME SSD ... And i have no problem with loading or frames drops !! And i thinks this is the case Because the game only use images or layers more than 3D models .. so you need a fast storage to load all those images without any problem :)
@Digital Foundry -- To download the PC version from the Windows Store do the following: Use the Win+i Key to open settings, TYPE: del and select: Delivery Optimization settings, where it says "Allow downloads from other PCs" turn that OFF. Then click: Advanced options, under Download settings, you want to either UNTICK both options OR put them both on 100%. Retry the download and you will be GREAT. Windows Store FIXED and downloading as fast as your ISP allows! CHEERS!
On pc 1080ti/8700k ultrawide 1440p/100fps it looks and plays like a dream with some minor stutters. Loading from ssd around 7 seconds. Amazing game that's worth a buy on pc.
wait is well worth it because this game is absolutely amazing! down to the super fluid and fun combat, the smooth, fluid, and fun movement for the platforming, the exploration, the story-book-like story structure, the narrative, the music both in quality and fitting perfectly for the scenario and landscape, the absolutely gorgeous artwork, hand-painted design, and overall very strong use of colours. Ori and the Will of the Wisps is a perfect example of what a game of the year game looks like and nothing is going to be beat it that is coming out this year! 10/10 must buy, must play absolute masterpiece!
Loved Ori and the Blind Forest, had my XboxOne X for around a month. I also love Ori and the Will of the Wisps but I am going to finish my Gears Of War 5 play through, until they've patch Ori because it has awful slow down. It's not like frame rate drops it's like it's running in slow motion in certain parts, the windmill area. I agree the Game Pass for me is great for the discounts 20%, because I like owning my games. I own all the Gears Of War games, I brought the GOW Ultimate and then seen in Asda GOW 4 that came with four Bonus games GOW1,2,3 & Judgment for an amazing £18.95. Downloaded GOW with games Pass then brought it that Friday with a 20% discount making GOW5 £39.99. But I believe the Game Pass has come at a cost because AAA £60 games on release like Gears 5, Halo 5 etc have awful micro transactions which should not be in AAA first party games.
Does anyone else have a problem with the camera on PC being very juddery? I'm using a 144Hz Gsync Panel with 140FPS Cap. The Animations seem to run smoothly but the Camera just doesn't feel right.
The Steam version runs beautifully around 150 fps at 1440p on my machine. There are occasional I/O stutters when running off an HDD though and loading times could be better.
I would recommend everyone turn off motion blur. It applies blur to the entire screen in a very unnatural way when traversing the levels. You can test it out by running across a level at half speed or slower and you’ll see the background blur as if you’re moving much faster. You lose the motion blur on animation but I find the game to have a cleaner and better image overall with it turned off, plus the animation is good enough that you don’t really need motion blur.
Runs perfect on my PC so far. Obviously after the day one patch. 3900x and RTX2080. 1440p. My frame rate is max limit is set to 117fps, just below my vsync cap on my LGC9. Looks beautiful sounds even better on my 7.2.4 Atmos system. I'm only 1.5 hours in as I only get a chance to play in the evening and the last couple days my friends wanted to play warzone.
Playing on STEAM, and it’s flawless. Respawning is instant too. Granted, I’m running a 2080 ti with i9 9900k. Still, it’s the way to experience this game. I bought the collector edition on X1X though, just because I love Ori. Started playing the first game on Switch again too.
Ori and the Blind Forest is indeed excellent, but it's not really exploration-based, in fact, it's quite linear and most of the time you'll only go forward. Also, I would even hesitate to call it a true Metroidvania, because it doesn't really have any of the elements/values as modern titles from the genre (such as Hollow Knight, Guacamelee, etc.), aside from ability-based progression. It doesn't have side quests, NPCs, vendors, a skill/ability system, a core combat system, actual bosses, etc. But the sequel does. It improves and extendes upon every single aspect of the original game and that's what makes it so awesome. The sequel is a true Metroidvania and one of the best in the genre along with Hollow Knight.
So I wonder if the Xbox one X would hold steady at 60fps if you didn’t play at 4K and dropped the resolution to 1080p, if that’s even an option in the in game menu, or what if your playing on only a 1080p set & the game is simply forced to play in 1080p.
For me, this game is like old friends coming together to make something amazing. I love how influenced by Hollow Knight it is. Also, something about the sound effects gentle use of an ambient soundscape, combat trials and races, as well as npc interactions remind me a lot of Okami. I can't put my finger on exactly why but its wonderful either way. The world is so, so gorgeously imagined this time around (not that Ori OG was not) If not for the frame rate and graphical issues I'd say 10/10 but 9/10 until those are fixed I guess.
Must be all the lighting effects. My W7 system* with a GTX960 gets hammered when I leave it on 1080p60 100% res scale, no issues with the original ori, hollow knight, celeste, yooka (3D)/yooka 2(2D).. only other game I had run into performance issues like this was Tetris Effect which has all sorts of visual effects which I thought didn't look very taxing. *just pointing out W10's recent instability with games wasn't a factor here. After using 75% res scale most slowdowns stopped besides the deaths, and some new area loading hitches.
The issue with the clear pause when respawning or loading in is an issue with the Steam version as well. Been running the game from a NVMe drive on a decent spec system and i end up with the pause when loading.
I'm playing it on PC thanks to gamepass. No fps problem here, 130-160 fps on 1080ti. Love the game so far, just like the first! PS: I only notice weird glitches when I first install it on traditional hard disk, like stutter and strange sound every time game try to load new areas... Move installation on SD and problem solved. Maybe is my hard disk, but I have no problems with other games.
Given all that is going on in this game i expect dips in frame rate. Like I wouldn't even compare it to other metrovania games because it's unlike other metrovania games.
I picked up the collectors edition for Xbox yesterday and within the first 30 minutes I could tell there were some issues running on my base Xbox one. The frame rate dips hard in some places and the stuttering and hitching made it rather frustrating to play. I decided to also pick up the PC version from the windows store. Had no problems installing and booting it up. It plays considerably better on my PC, However there are still some issues: There are still small hitches when traversing through the world, these seem to manifest in a dropped frame or 2. I assume this is down to accessing data, it also seems to time into where the new checkpoint system is placed. The game is installed on a 1tb m.2 fyi. GPU wise its barely reaching 40% load on a 1070ti, CPU is a similar affair where its barely reaching 40% on an I7 6700k. This indicates to me the engines struggles to pull data from the disc, more optimisations would benefit here. Lastly I have encountered a number of bugs and glitches so far, there are usually related to the world psychics, in one area where I had to traverse over a spider web infested cave there are these cocoon things which you need to grab and climb onto to get higher. The psychics on these were just utterly broken, Ori could not latch onto them and jumping into them it appeared as if Ori had an invisible bubble around her which pushed the cocoons away. Dashing into them would cause them to literally flip out and bungie around the screen. Another one on the intense windmill escape there is a part where a spiked roof falls down onto a mill after you jump into it, on my initial play through the spiked roof had already fallen in meaning I couldn't get inside the mill and essentially reached a dead end where I couldn't escape the water. A reset fixed this. This part makes me think the checkpoint system isn't working correctly and not resetting certain things within the world after a death. Another was on the spider boss, again with these cocoons, when she uses the laser attack I jumped behind a dangling cocoon to avoid it but the dreaded psychics flipped out once she lasered the cocoon and it bounced around the screen smacking Ori and pushing her through the wall causing me to get stuck inside of it then fall through to the bottom of the world where a never ending plane of water exists where I ended up drowning. With these few issues ironed out with a patch or 2 I could see this game topping the 1st one for me, however currently I might take a break from it until then. Along with avoiding the Xbox one S version altogether.
On my PC it drops frames to 110 fps on certain sections on 4k. And that's basically the it in terms of performance issues. Game is buttery smooth on a decent rig.
@@kainthetrollreaver9270 God of War won GOTY because it was an excellent AAA game, with beautiful visuals, a wonderful story and solid gameplay mechanics. Ori is a good game, but its no God of War lmao
I’m at the water mill section playing on Xbox one S and it’s unplayable. Freezes every 20/30 seconds. Hopefully fixed soon because I’m having an absolute blast with it.
Moon Studios has made two games in total and they are both masterpieces.
lol
I wish
I wanna see their 3rd preson open world Action adventure Ori game
Yes sir. These games are phenomenal. I just got will of wisps on switch and it's solo good. I also just bought that awesome collectors edition from Iam8bit.
@Johnna Mehrhoff no one cares 🤷🏻♂️
It's so beautiful.
David Banner has the platforming is damn near perfect and satisfying as well.
Moon Studios where able to achieve that, what RARE was doing with Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country Diddy's Kong Quest. They created out of nothing two timeless classics.
funny thing is it is if anything too beautiful, I actually stop playing for a couple days because all the non stop whimsy makes me nauseous in such large amounts. XD
Also Metroidvania games get boring after 30 minutess.
@Z3U5 Remember, they all have beast PCs. Or so they say...
I can't get this crack out of my hands
Game pass is a beautiful thing.
As long as we never lose the option to own the games on PHYSICAL DISCS or CARTRIDGES.
That is my only gripe with services like Game Pass or the almost defunct Stadia.
you are a beautiful thing
Rômulo D. That’s the way it’s going. Buy physical. Show you still want that option. I do. Europe tends to prefer physical at the moment
@@mistersurrealist Good thing about Game Pass is that the price tag for the disc version sinks within weeks.
Game Pass on PC is great in theory, but it's not without its faults from a wide array of technical issues and bad DRM.
I found much bigger problem with this game, I can't stop playing it...
Already 100% xD
damn i envy you, last time a metroidvania game actually was as fun as they said it was I was in middleschool. Gonna earmark this one for sale.
@@FounderX9 22 minutes of gameplay is all you've experienced before you moved on? No patience whatsoever?
@@crazy13alex Relax, not all people like the same stuff you do 😁
Though I love that game
@@leeviheiskanen1271 I know. It just seems like too short of an investment of time to appraise a videogame. Not that Ori is that long but still.
Despite its technical flaws, it's an absolutely gorgeous feast to the eyes!
Those flaws are just temporary. Performance will be improved with patches!
@@BORMo1976 So many reviews are sans day-one-patch level of performance. At least John here waited to get and test it with that patch and the majority of the slowdowns are eliminated. TBH other than a couple of periods right near the start that were clearly framerate compromised, I've not noticed a single drop in the 3-4 hours I've played so far.
@@zybch so what we have to review games days after release now?
@@dushikorsou1 to get an accurate feel for the final release, OF COURSE.
Doing anything else misrepresents the game the end user will be playing.
The first one to put out a review is doing it for pathetic ego and clicks, not something that should ever be encouraged.
@@BORMo1976 After the amount of time and work that went into making this lovely game I wouldn't expect anything else... it would be a shame to leave it as it is!!
Had to finish the boss a second time to see the ending again.....as my eyes had performance issues the 1st time around....what an ending😭😭😭
Xbox has killed it with gamepass. Literally nothing is more gamer/consumer friendly. I just wish i liked platformers. The graphics and color chart is amazing.
@@chrisoctane I totally agree with Chris
you gotta give it a chance if you haven't already!
That Car Guy Why do people even think like this? Lol it's just a subscription service and it's rather expensive for the limited amount of games it offers especially since most of them are pretty old. You also need a gold subsciption in order to access online modes which is really dumb imo
@@admyr6642 £10 month expensive.... ok then
@@chrisoctane Thanks for the reply, ive tried it, but i just don't like platformers. It's just not for me. That being said, like I stated above, the game is beautiful and those that love platformers, i hope this keeps going in the right direction for you.
@@ViperT0ngue Dude is just a troll block them and move on, I already have.
This game is Q U A L I T Y. I'm loving it. And because of that, I'm savouring it taking my time and not blasting through in like 1 or 2 full days. Atm, I'm at the part where I have the ability to dig/drill underground. The sandy section.
Between Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale - Xbox has been killing it with exclusive platformers this gen! All free to play on Xbox Gamepass! :)))
metroidvanias like Ori also heavily reward the player for exploring everywhere too.
@@BORMo1976 Cuphead is not an Xbox game and Luckys Tale is ass
i just got triple jump and that lash ability, things are much easier now after i met the "villagers". Now i need the ability to swim in black water, or, as Moki says: sad water. lol
yeah, 28-60 fps is one kind of quality indeed. dogshit quality it is.
This game and Philips ambilight/hue = amazing
Between Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale - Xbox has been killing it with exclusive platformers this gen! All free to play on Xbox Gamepass! :)))
@@BORMo1976 It was already dumb enough calling Games with Gold "free", calling Game Pass games "free" is stupidity on a whole other level.
Also, you're really going to put an extremely mediocre game like Super Lucky's Tale on the same list as Ori and Cuphead?
agreed, looks amazing on my ambilight
@@shtiken Well, you do not have to buy those games separately
@@leeviheiskanen1271 with that logic netflix is free, thats not how it works.
Xbox gamepass is incredible value for money no one is arguing against that, but its not free :D
Hopefully runs just flawless after a few patches, and especially later this year on the Series X
Between Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale - Xbox has been killing it with exclusive platformers this gen! All free to play on Xbox Gamepass! :)))
Series X is the patch. lol
Ork Diktator expensive patch ! Thats not an excuse : "dont worry, with our next gen console itll be fine !"The game is on ONE platform and PC and they cant make it run properly.
Squishy Synapse I've personally liked both Snake Pass and ReCore
It runs flawlessly on my One X now. The patch came out a little bit ago. No more freezes, audio glitch, and the map loads instantly. I'm so happy!
Absolutely masterpiece. I'm very excited to see their new ip on xbox briefing. (Yes, they're already confirmed an new ip on work)
It's an ARPG, they are making something inspired from Diablo, Zelda etc.
Then all xbox generic games will be available on pc.. Useless..
@@MrBenedick14 Xbox is a service now.
You even got Xbox on the Switch.
@@ls200076 technically the "service" isn't on the switch, just Microsoft exclusive games.
crapgamer reviews G fanboy emerges
I think you should of hit more on the stellar use of HDR. Some of the best lighting effects I’ve ever seen on my OLED.
Agreed the HDR looks incredible
I finished part one earlier this year on Xbox One.
Absolutely incredible game. Seriously the best I've played in years.
Genuinely difficult on Hard mode, too. Reminded me of platformers from the 90s. Just brutal but never frustrating.
Until watching this video, I didn’t even spot any performance issues running on the X. Felt smooth as silk to me 🤷🏼♂️.
GMACF1 Because you game on Xbox and the vast majority of games run like shit so of course this would feel smooth as silk to you.
Oktus Prime I game on every system because that’s what real gamers do. Maybe you should try it, although saying that, I’m guessing you’ll need to ask your mammy’s permission first 🤦🏼♂️
Played fine for me also on the X with Gamepass. I haven't tried it on my PC yet as I prefer playing most games on console.
@@GMACF1 I think most reviews were made with prerelease version of game in mind. Many of performance issues were fixed in Day 1 patch. Which is a shame because this basically only major flaw that is mentioned across all reviews that lowers it's score
Edit:
Alright, this is mentioned in review
I agree, they should have waited to review until the bugs were fixed, which was done a little while ago. A couple weeks after the game came out. It's a shame that they didn't. This game deserves a 10 out of 10. Looks beautiful on my Xbox One X.
This game really fits the description "games as art". What a beautiful masterpiece.
rayman legends started that artstyle
well or origins
I hate that description. All games are art.
@@desertfish74 it will get better with patches.
@@desertfish74 It's a masterpiece, and one of the best games ever made. The Witcher 3 and Zelda BotW still have frame drops, even after dozens of patches.
Playing on X and I have gotten periods where the game stutters and continues to stutter until i restart the game. First started around the mill and pops up every now and then.
That soundtrack is utterly beautiful.
I subscribe to this channel just for John. He's a treasure.
He is, but I love them all
Love them all... but John is legendary
Yea he is cool but Richard is golden in my eyes.
Richard is wizard. Witchard, the hand gesture master
For somebody like John who’s job it is to look for issues, this would be a problem but to me, the games is so awesome that the small hiccups weren’t really an issue. I was just in awe.
However, I still appreciate these critiques.👍🏽
"Small hiccups" The frame-rate is literally all over the place.
Even my RTX 2070 can’t handle native 4K 60 with this game, I have to drop it down to 1800p for it to run smooth 99% of the time, still really beautiful though
Yea, it's an optimizing issue, so any hardware would have problems with it no matter how much powerful.
10:11 44 FPS on the Beast? They once again went with too high of a resolution
That's fair but considering it does well in most instances to keep 60fps I don't see the issue they pretty much got best of both it's not perfect but it's still impressive considering how terrible the CPU is on the consoles. Imagine the x with a real CPU at launch it would of put many rigs to shame which is why next gen is important. More storage and ram and a proper CPU I reckon performance issues will be light next gen. That's if corona virus dosen't fuck up shit more than it has
Nah it needs a patch, hard to believe this game would drop frames.
I am thinking CPU bottleneck. That's where Unity is generally a struggle on consoles.
The game just needs a patch, it’s not the system
Stop pretending to know it all. The poor areas need optimisation
I was playing along hoping for another "Waters Cleansed" moment like in Blind Forest when you open up the Ginso Tree and the Moon Grotto becomes this gorgeous place that had me grinning like a kid, and boom, Sanctuary in the Glades. Enchanting is the only word that describes it for me. I'm in love with these games. Art design, music and great gameplay perfected.
Absolutely gorgeous on pc 4K 144hz no performance problems!!
Damn bro, I can only get so hard
Nice monitor 🤣
@@KeyMacGamingKeyz Yup its a beast at 4K 144hz 1,100 nit HDR..😎
the second chase sequence had my framerate so low the game literally ran in slowmotion... and with only 50% GPU usage and less than that CPU usage.
so there are performance issues with this game and it is 100% software related.
@@kevboard I had no problem in the second chase sequence at all. Might be hardware related to be honest with you..
The Ori games are some of my personal favorite plaformers of all time. I play on PC via steam. There's no HDR options and I read a comment on another youtube video saying that the devs are still working on proper HDR implementation on the PC version. I normally have HDR ON in windows 10 display settings. I do have a custom color profile I made with my Spyder and I set digital vibrancy to 60% in the nvideo color controls. Overall this makes windows use not washed out. And I use a 43" HDR 4K monitor on a 1080TI. With this setup Ori play at full 4k and can do 60 fps but with the stuttering as experienced in the video.
However I created a custom 21:9 resolution of 3840x1646 to see how the game looks and I have to say it takes full advantage of the ultra wide resolution and the panoramic view of the game is all there. Yes my screen is blank at the top and bottom but that cinematic look with this beautiful art style is incredible. Then switching back to normal SDR on the desktop and the game runs buttery smooth. Not hitching at all.
I had to stop playing because I’m at a point where the frame drops are actually noticeable and hurting the gameplay. It’s especially noticeable being a veteran of the original, it really hurts the experience. Hopefully there is a patch sometime this week because I WAS enjoying it a lot.
noob
Got it on Steam, literally encountered one visual bug in the 10h of my current playtime (not done yet) and that was it. First load took a while, but that was it, installed on a 7200 RPM HDD. No frame dips with a 7y old i5-4670k CPU and a GTX1080, but that's to be expected. :'D
So strange. The first thing i noticed was the amazing performance i achieved with this game. A constant 144 fps on my GTX 1070 @ 1440p.
Loading times and everything are perfectly fine from an SSD. Looks like the game just wasn't very well optimized for consoles and only tested on PCs.
Naaah skillup also had problems on his PC.
I think he mainly played the game on XBox and that's where he noticed all the major problems.
The PC version he played seems to be the one from the MS Store, which might be the reason for the performance issues he noticed. Maybe the UWP version doesn't work as well as a native Win32 app that you would get from Steam.
So maybe it isn't a console problem and it's just an UWP problem, that has to be solved.
@@d34d10ck did you play with fps counter on? Typical pc user thinks he plays locked all the time.
I had major performance issues on my 2080ti before they issued an 8GB patch. It was so poor I played the Xbox One X version (it's crossplay so your save carries over)
It's been fine since the patch though.
@Van Dammage To be completely honest i only reached 140 fps, because i have it limited to 140 fps in the Nvidia driver, because of my Gsync monitor. I only said 144 Hz, because i didn't wanna explain the difference in a lengthy post. The result is the same though. I reach the maximum framerate i can get with my setup which is 140 fps (basically the same as 144 fps). vSync is disabled, since i have a Gsync Monitor limited to 140 fps.
I use RTSS to rendering a fps counter and a frametime historgram graph in every game at my machine to check if everything runs smooth. Consistent and stable frametimes are the most important thing to me in every game. Even more important than a high framerate.
After reading all these post I'll run some tests with CapFrameX, though. Then I'll know what's up.
I noticed frame drops also on PC, did you manage to test it?
This game is pure art. A truly masterpiece!
The new update adds HDR for the PC and updates it for the Xbox. They really dialed it in and it went from looking fantastic to spectacular. You guys should revisit it and compare pre to post update.
They released an update in May. Should try a follow up and see if it's been improved.
Anxiously waiting for your review of the recent switch port. Though I guess you guys have a lot on your plate right now
DGFTardin In case you haven’t seen it it’s up now.
@@MrJWTH I did, thanks
I have the game for xbox one x and its updated yet still runs like shit, huge delays when accessing the map and stutters with gameplay. any ideas?
12:30 microsoft store is a joke overall in windows 10. Limiting download speed, crashes and games stopping downloading, some games doesnt work (rage 2), etc. I spent 5 hours to download ori because the download speed was instable. At the same time, i downloaded a game from steam store and i reached top speed of my isp provider.
I've had the same issue with rage 2 and found out that the game was trying to use the on-board video card and not the powerful one. (im on a laptop).
You downloaded two games at the same time???? Theres you problem buddy
@@baconwhip i was downloading ori from microsoft store and it was in low speed, then i decided to donwload another game from steam just for test. Steam was normal. I downloaded a game with 3gb in couple of minutes but ori's download was in low speed, even the download from steam was finished. Do you understand or i have to draw?
There seems to be a weird bug that doesn't affect everyone where overall performance suffers significantly. I ran into this problem once where framerates were extremely low (15 fps or less?) and a restart on my Xbox was needed. I also had loading problems where the initial load time took more than 5 minutes before I was able to get into the game (and a few times where the game would just get stuck in the title screen).
About loading, I also noticed variable loading when opening up the map or any other menu. Sometimes it's instant, sometimes takes a second.
I had this same issue when booting up the game for the first time. I restarted my console and then it was fine.
@@andyward8430 Hopefully was just a one-time thing. I've read about others with a similar issue and it not getting fixed even after a hard reboot.
My loading problem was strange though because it happened after I restarted my Xbox. Then it fixed itself the next day.
The windows store has some set-up requirements that mean you have to choose any disk you want to install games to as the system set "where new apps are saved" before you can successfully install to that drive. As long as you've set it up once, though, you can then choose that disk when installing. Definitely something people with only one disk won't notice, but since I use three, I've had to wrestle with it before.
Most time I have closed my eyes and Listen only to the Voice from John, because the Spoilers 🙈
I don't have a PC or an Xbone so .... I just hope I forget these spoilers before I eventually play it
Spot on review. Ori 2 is amazing, but it was very awkward having regular hiccups on my pc with an 2080S and a 165hz 1440p monitor when the first game ran so nicely on my poor little Switch.
Honestly playing on the X1X i didnt notice the sustained drops drops during general traversal at all, defiantly nothing near 40fps which i really feel like i would have noticed... weird, only temporary drops in really heavy combat moments.
I did have the really bad freezing and hitching when moving between areas, it was way worse than any sustain drops, i surprised you mentioned it so briefly. playing on the 120hz output btw.
PC version also downloaded fine for me, but I did it through the xbox beta app, not the store, maybe that would work for you. Though when actually in the game i had sound issues with that version, no frame rate issues though.
Edit: so i reinstalled it on PC and that seems to have fixed my sound issues, so thats good.
A quick stop-gap could be to have a 1080p60 mode on X and a 30fps limiter for S. Say what you will about 30, but I would rather a solid 30 over wavering between 30 and 60 all of the time. I mean, it's one thing on my pc to just live with a few dips to 50-ish (for those poorly optimized pc ports that crop from time to time) and allow tearing and another one entirely when the frames are very unstable and shoot all over the 30-to-60 range. I will play this on X with downsampling in a week or two to allow for some patching. FWIW - my experience with downloads via the Xbox (Beta) App has been better than with the store, and since they are supposed to use much of the same functionality (two different front ends to the same back end, to put it overly simply), I have to wonder if some of the minor differences in how that works means anything of if my experience is just luck of the draw.
According to reviews, the only thing of note that is wrong with the PC version (WS/Xbox App) is a lack of HDR support at the time me posting - perhaps I will just play that and hope my 2070S SC Ultra powers past any port issues. I have Gamepass Ultimate from that crazy conversion deal (convert all Gamepass and XBL gold to Gamepass Ultra for 1$), so checking the Steam version doesn't really make any sense (some of the Steam reviews mention bugs, however).
There is a chance that the team might use the new DOTS (data-oriented technology stack) feature to stream in and instance objects in the future. This could help with the hitching if possible to implement.
It may help. The problem is - they have to rewrite ALL the code (as far as I know).
That will not happen.
@@igorthelight They could automate the rewrite though. A simple parser written in c# could even do the work. Seeing as they probably use inheritance for their characters / enemies it would probably suffice to convert the base model into an entity / component and system files structure.
I'm playing in an s it literally shut my xbox down twice trying to start the game. I'm about 3 hours in and the game freezes for about 7 seconds to bring up the map and when I die and respwan the game freezes for like almost 10 seconds
🚧TIPS: DISABLE MOTION BLUR!
This makes the gameplay way better.
Loving it, way better than the 1st game in every way.
Specially the combat is fun and the graphic is so beautiful.
Music is great but to me its not as much as the original.
9 out of 10 🌟
Yes, turn off motion blur, it's too much! I felt it was affecting the framerate too. So much better with it off..
Can you disable motion blur on the xbox one version? or just on the steam version?
@@calak1016 Xbox has on/off toggle, yes
First thing I did with part one. Looks better and runs better.
This and hallow knight are the best Metroidvanias ever made
Both Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night beat Hollow Knight low difficulty.
In my opinion is more a MetroidRayman... None of the metroidvanias has got such a platforming component like Ori!
HK yes, Ori not evel close lol
Felix S. 😂 true but On hard it’s very very challenging
Luca Camerada you summed it up perfectly
This game is amazing. If they ever decide to do the third one, I hope that it'll use ray-traced global illumination. That would be something else.
Between Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale - Xbox has been killing it with exclusive platformers this gen! All free to play on Xbox Gamepass! :)))
Squishy Synapse How many times do you plan to copy and paste this comment?
@@BORMo1976
Yea they're great, but not exclusives.
For this type of game Why would you need ray traced global illumination? Seems a lot of the background is semi static. What would it improve?
Could you give me a bit more specific case where this would enhance the visuals so I will understand what you have in your mind :)
@@BORMo1976 Ori, Cuphead and Super Luckys Tale are not exclusives... Microsoft released it on Xone, PC and Switch (only Ori 2 isn't on Switch)... It's more like "Games not for Playstation".
This game is like a paint that you can see how is alive and moves and you are part of that beautiful paint is a master piece of you don’t like art you still gonna love playing this game this game is many things in once is a paint that you bring back to live when you playing through it beautiful art
The bit where Ori cuddles Ku I found so moving.
"There's a little slowdown."
(Chuckles with SNES slowdown in '92.)
Dudes, I'm not the biggest platform gamer in the world but I will tell you that this is, by far, the most beautiful platforming game I have ever played in my life. At the beginning of the game it almost feels like you're playing an interactive Pixar movie, it's that good.
Edit: what are these performances issues John is taking about? I guess it's just a console thing because pc is rock solid.
Unity engine is too heavy for old Jaguar cores on a consoles.
Devs have to look at that issue.
There's this odd audio buzz bug in the game as well
Beautiful game all the way around. Graphics, sound, animations, they are all amazing. I run this off gamepass on my pc, and it runs buttery smooth at 1440p on my 35" widescreen monitor, never had a crash or any issues with this game or the previous one.
It works well on my PC at least. It can't quite hold the 100fps all the time, but I don't think I have seen it drop below 80 at any time. That's good enough for me. Feels very fluid.
so, my rig (3600x stock/5700xt ) runs it after the update in HDR/4k with everything ON,except Motion blur @120 fps with dips rarely to 80 frames. Overall great performance and it indeed looks AMAZING. Hope with a driver update from amd gets even better. Fine Wine is NOT a myth....
I noticed the frame issues as soon as a started playing on the PC through game pass, I hope the performance gets fixed. Great work!
"But for unknown reasons, it did not work"
The reason is known and it's called the Microsoft Store. It almost never works well.
@@dayko. The Xbox app on PC downloads things through the Microsoft Store
The Microsoft store doesn't use standard executables, and what they do use is absolute total garbage. I won't go within a mile of it. If this game had been exclusive to the Windows store as was originally planned, I would've skipped it entirely. I bought it on Steam and I haven't had any performance problems (not a single dropped frame - I should point out that I have a high end PC that is many times more powerful than the Xbox 1X though). I have had a couple of minor audio glitches but those are rare and also known and due to be fixed.
Exactly, the Microsoft Store and its DRM is complete garbage. You're limited to locked immovable files (You can't move games between HDD or SSD), hidden Windows directories, unmmodable games, games that can refuse to launch due to certain Windows settings, games that can also refuse to launch due to Windows not being fully updated to the latest Feature Update, or the Windows Store simply being corrupted sometimes requiring a full fresh Windows 10 reinstall to fix. To top it all off, I've also had cloud saves on certain Windows Store games not working or being unreliable.
On my pc the boss fights and some area dipped so drastically in framerate
Almost ruined certain story points for me........... almost
Why did the developer skip HDR and Atmos in the PC release?
it looks gorgeous, but... the zoom out is too much, the character looks too small. on this kind of games I prefer the camera closer, like in super metroid, castlevania symphony of the night, rayman, pitfall, the "standard" zoom and size.
Could it be the game is more ambitious than the Unity engine?
For some reason the game performs better if you reset the console, reinstall, or move to internal.
No, Unity is fine.
Console CPU is very weak by the modern standarts.
@@igorthelight lot's of pc users having problems too. It's the best looking unity game and might be a bit too much for the engine.
12:43
"It just wouldn't download."
*ominous music*
Why the low res video?
I played the game on PC with 512GB NVME SSD ... And i have no problem with loading or frames drops !!
And i thinks this is the case Because the game only use images or layers more than 3D models .. so you need a fast storage to load all those images without any problem :)
@Digital Foundry -- To download the PC version from the Windows Store do the following: Use the Win+i Key to open settings, TYPE: del and select: Delivery Optimization settings, where it says "Allow downloads from other PCs" turn that OFF. Then click: Advanced options, under Download settings, you want to either UNTICK both options OR put them both on 100%. Retry the download and you will be GREAT. Windows Store FIXED and downloading as fast as your ISP allows! CHEERS!
thanks for this Jeff, I can't believe I miss these settings before on my Windows PC. Awesome
@@NfactorReloaded No problem bro. I went from 2.6Mbps to about 200+. I will never go back haha.
On pc 1080ti/8700k ultrawide 1440p/100fps it looks and plays like a dream with some minor stutters. Loading from ssd around 7 seconds. Amazing game that's worth a buy on pc.
Got it on game pass for PC. Haven’t seen any of the performance issues mentioned, but I’m only 10-15% of the way through.
wait is well worth it because this game is absolutely amazing! down to the super fluid and fun combat, the smooth, fluid, and fun movement for the platforming, the exploration, the story-book-like story structure, the narrative, the music both in quality and fitting perfectly for the scenario and landscape, the absolutely gorgeous artwork, hand-painted design, and overall very strong use of colours.
Ori and the Will of the Wisps is a perfect example of what a game of the year game looks like and nothing is going to be beat it that is coming out this year! 10/10 must buy, must play absolute masterpiece!
Loved Ori and the Blind Forest, had my XboxOne X for around a month. I also love Ori and the Will of the Wisps but I am going to finish my Gears Of War 5 play through, until they've patch Ori because it has awful slow down. It's not like frame rate drops it's like it's running in slow motion in certain parts, the windmill area. I agree the Game Pass for me is great for the discounts 20%, because I like owning my games. I own all the Gears Of War games, I brought the GOW Ultimate and then seen in Asda GOW 4 that came with four Bonus games GOW1,2,3 & Judgment for an amazing £18.95. Downloaded GOW with games Pass then brought it that Friday with a 20% discount making GOW5 £39.99. But I believe the Game Pass has come at a cost because AAA £60 games on release like Gears 5, Halo 5 etc have awful micro transactions which should not be in AAA first party games.
beautiful , Elegant masterpiece . day one patch had no problems Game play Mind blowing !!!! GOTY 10/10
ori and child of light are two of the prettiest games I've ever seen.
With the obvious exception of wind waker HD.
Some of the most gorgeous 2D1/2 artwork I have ever seen.
12:40 yo wtf is that storage! You running a cloud server or something
Does anyone else have a problem with the camera on PC being very juddery? I'm using a 144Hz Gsync Panel with 140FPS Cap. The Animations seem to run smoothly but the Camera just doesn't feel right.
So apparently the game doesn't like me overclocking my gtx 1080. On stock clocks it works fine.
The Steam version runs beautifully around 150 fps at 1440p on my machine. There are occasional I/O stutters when running off an HDD though and loading times could be better.
0:47 Ouuu sick bars John!
I would recommend everyone turn off motion blur. It applies blur to the entire screen in a very unnatural way when traversing the levels. You can test it out by running across a level at half speed or slower and you’ll see the background blur as if you’re moving much faster. You lose the motion blur on animation but I find the game to have a cleaner and better image overall with it turned off, plus the animation is good enough that you don’t really need motion blur.
Fully agree. It strains my eyes really hard due to very unnatural smoothing of the screen. Turned off is better.
The glorious return of DF Music player
Runs perfect on my PC so far. Obviously after the day one patch. 3900x and RTX2080. 1440p. My frame rate is max limit is set to 117fps, just below my vsync cap on my LGC9. Looks beautiful sounds even better on my 7.2.4 Atmos system. I'm only 1.5 hours in as I only get a chance to play in the evening and the last couple days my friends wanted to play warzone.
Playing on STEAM, and it’s flawless. Respawning is instant too. Granted, I’m running a 2080 ti with i9 9900k. Still, it’s the way to experience this game. I bought the collector edition on X1X though, just because I love Ori. Started playing the first game on Switch again too.
I'm suprised the Game runs at all on your mediocre Hardware.... LoL
Ori and the Blind Forest is indeed excellent, but it's not really exploration-based, in fact, it's quite linear and most of the time you'll only go forward. Also, I would even hesitate to call it a true Metroidvania, because it doesn't really have any of the elements/values as modern titles from the genre (such as Hollow Knight, Guacamelee, etc.), aside from ability-based progression. It doesn't have side quests, NPCs, vendors, a skill/ability system, a core combat system, actual bosses, etc. But the sequel does. It improves and extendes upon every single aspect of the original game and that's what makes it so awesome. The sequel is a true Metroidvania and one of the best in the genre along with Hollow Knight.
So I wonder if the Xbox one X would hold steady at 60fps if you didn’t play at 4K and dropped the resolution to 1080p, if that’s even an option in the in game menu, or what if your playing on only a 1080p set & the game is simply forced to play in 1080p.
For me, this game is like old friends coming together to make something amazing. I love how influenced by Hollow Knight it is. Also, something about the sound effects gentle use of an ambient soundscape, combat trials and races, as well as npc interactions remind me a lot of Okami. I can't put my finger on exactly why but its wonderful either way. The world is so, so gorgeously imagined this time around (not that Ori OG was not) If not for the frame rate and graphical issues I'd say 10/10 but 9/10 until those are fixed I guess.
JC have patches improved One X performance of this game?
ORI IS BREATHTAKING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No you're BREATHTAKING
@@JunKurosu you are all breathtaking
Must be all the lighting effects. My W7 system* with a GTX960 gets hammered when I leave it on 1080p60 100% res scale, no issues with the original ori, hollow knight, celeste, yooka (3D)/yooka 2(2D).. only other game I had run into performance issues like this was Tetris Effect which has all sorts of visual effects which I thought didn't look very taxing.
*just pointing out W10's recent instability with games wasn't a factor here. After using 75% res scale most slowdowns stopped besides the deaths, and some new area loading hitches.
I wish things were zoomed in a bit more. Things get pretty small for those with limited vision from what I see here.
Depends on the section. Camera is dynamic
@@Cyrribrae Ahh, good to know.
The issue with the clear pause when respawning or loading in is an issue with the Steam version as well. Been running the game from a NVMe drive on a decent spec system and i end up with the pause when loading.
been playing the game on XBX for 5 hours now and i didn't even realize this was below 60 until I saw this video. The game performs well enough for me.
I'm playing it on PC thanks to gamepass. No fps problem here, 130-160 fps on 1080ti. Love the game so far, just like the first! PS: I only notice weird glitches when I first install it on traditional hard disk, like stutter and strange sound every time game try to load new areas... Move installation on SD and problem solved. Maybe is my hard disk, but I have no problems with other games.
Given all that is going on in this game i expect dips in frame rate. Like I wouldn't even compare it to other metrovania games because it's unlike other metrovania games.
I picked up the collectors edition for Xbox yesterday and within the first 30 minutes I could tell there were some issues running on my base Xbox one. The frame rate dips hard in some places and the stuttering and hitching made it rather frustrating to play.
I decided to also pick up the PC version from the windows store. Had no problems installing and booting it up.
It plays considerably better on my PC, However there are still some issues: There are still small hitches when traversing through the world, these seem to manifest in a dropped frame or 2. I assume this is down to accessing data, it also seems to time into where the new checkpoint system is placed. The game is installed on a 1tb m.2 fyi.
GPU wise its barely reaching 40% load on a 1070ti, CPU is a similar affair where its barely reaching 40% on an I7 6700k. This indicates to me the engines struggles to pull data from the disc, more optimisations would benefit here.
Lastly I have encountered a number of bugs and glitches so far, there are usually related to the world psychics, in one area where I had to traverse over a spider web infested cave there are these cocoon things which you need to grab and climb onto to get higher. The psychics on these were just utterly broken, Ori could not latch onto them and jumping into them it appeared as if Ori had an invisible bubble around her which pushed the cocoons away. Dashing into them would cause them to literally flip out and bungie around the screen.
Another one on the intense windmill escape there is a part where a spiked roof falls down onto a mill after you jump into it, on my initial play through the spiked roof had already fallen in meaning I couldn't get inside the mill and essentially reached a dead end where I couldn't escape the water. A reset fixed this. This part makes me think the checkpoint system isn't working correctly and not resetting certain things within the world after a death.
Another was on the spider boss, again with these cocoons, when she uses the laser attack I jumped behind a dangling cocoon to avoid it but the dreaded psychics flipped out once she lasered the cocoon and it bounced around the screen smacking Ori and pushing her through the wall causing me to get stuck inside of it then fall through to the bottom of the world where a never ending plane of water exists where I ended up drowning.
With these few issues ironed out with a patch or 2 I could see this game topping the 1st one for me, however currently I might take a break from it until then. Along with avoiding the Xbox one S version altogether.
I wouldn't be surprised if the devs actually built the game for Series X dev kits. Looking forward, given the backwards compatibility of the platform.
What’s odd is on encountered animation bugs on the one x that I have yet to see anyone else have..
Does anyone know if the PC version supports Dolby Atmos or is it just the Xbox version?
Someone said it pc didn't have atmos but I couldn't confirm it
On my PC it drops frames to 110 fps on certain sections on 4k. And that's basically the it in terms of performance issues.
Game is buttery smooth on a decent rig.
Game of the year
Lmao...
Can't see why not. God Of War won GOTY running at 40fps when it was meant to be 60fps
@@kainthetrollreaver9270 God of War won GOTY because it was an excellent AAA game, with beautiful visuals, a wonderful story and solid gameplay mechanics. Ori is a good game, but its no God of War lmao
@@musty8748 sorry if the truth hurts
@@kainthetrollreaver9270 what? That ori sucks in comparison with God of War, cos that's the truth
This game is a masterpiece. Sounds as good as it looks.
DF never mentions HDR and dolby atmos which is a shame.
Van Dammage they did. Both HDR and Atmos.
He defitnitely mentioned how it shipped broke and still isn't right after multiple patches...u get what u pay for
89 is not a masterpiece, xbox still waiting for a 90+ apart from Forza
He mentioned both. Pay attention before commenting inaccuracies.
Looks stunning and runs great on my 9900k+2080Ti at 4K60 on LG 65 HDR OLED (steam version)
6:35 - music?
Never knew a metroidvania game can be so beautiful!
Play the first one before this :-)
I’m at the water mill section playing on Xbox one S and it’s unplayable. Freezes every 20/30 seconds. Hopefully fixed soon because I’m having an absolute blast with it.