The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - DF Tech Review - Is It Really 'Too Big for Switch'...?

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  • It's finally here - The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sees Nintendo at the very top of its game, delivering a game that builds and expands upon the original Breath of the Wild in many different dimensions... but is the scale of the ambition really 'too big for Switch'...? John Linneman has answers.
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  • @astrea555
    @astrea555 ปีที่แล้ว +1148

    Just goes to show just how much "game" you can achieve even on such a low power system if you have a strong art direction and have strong optimization.

    • @Drstrange3000
      @Drstrange3000 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Exactly

    • @alyzaabal33
      @alyzaabal33 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      Or it makes you wonder what the team could achieve on better hardware.

    • @thorocomments
      @thorocomments ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@alyzaabal33 we’ll see soon enough.

    • @dwaynethemineraljohnson412
      @dwaynethemineraljohnson412 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      ​@@alyzaabal33 60fps and a higer resolution probably

    • @TyEats2200
      @TyEats2200 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Makes Pokémon look even more like garbage on the switch.

  • @Davemate
    @Davemate ปีที่แล้ว +720

    The amazing physics, scale, lighting etc, all of it is amazing.
    And it also makes Pokemon Violet and Scarlet look completely amateur in comparison.

    • @NobleVagabond2552
      @NobleVagabond2552 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      That’s because GameFreak is amateur in comparison, actually amateur is still not really the right word bcuz at least amateurs give a fuck about what they’re doing lol

    • @_MegaMind_
      @_MegaMind_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NobleVagabond2552 u said it!

    • @AlbireoOkami
      @AlbireoOkami ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Gamefreak refuses to hire up to meet the headcount a AAA studio requires when working on the pokemon games.

    • @halcyonacoustic7366
      @halcyonacoustic7366 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      More like amateur management. I bet the average worker there is very competent. It's the impossible development schedule and tiny team that is the problem.

    • @MarkHogan994
      @MarkHogan994 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pokemon is a shameful and disgraceful franchise now. Makes me sad.

  • @oak8194
    @oak8194 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I'm still amazed by how much they expanded on the original game, not just on the scale but the complexity of the gameplay mechanics that work seamlessly within the vast world on the ageing Switch. It's great to see a more detailed break down on the performance and various techniques used to maintain this game - makes me excited what the future will hold for the series with even better hardwares down the line, as Nintendo and Monolith Soft have proven that they can work magic even with limited capacity.

  • @gruby360
    @gruby360 ปีที่แล้ว +872

    Always love that John highlights the sounds and scores of games

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Linneman's videos are always top tier

    • @wiLdchiLd2k
      @wiLdchiLd2k ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cause sounds and score are the best part of visual quality...

    • @falconeagle3655
      @falconeagle3655 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Audio is extremely important.

    • @mega77
      @mega77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Though 2 exemples he used are straight up musics from BOTW (Hateno village theme and Bird Village theme)

    • @ivand5699
      @ivand5699 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mega77 Doesnt sound exactly the same as BOTW.

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock ปีที่แล้ว +1251

    It’s incredible that it runs on the hardware it does. It’s amazing work by Nintendo devs. You summed it up well at the end too John!

    • @wakilnerd
      @wakilnerd ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love your videos bro ❤

    • @Shukulo
      @Shukulo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ahahaha one of my favorite TH-camrs also on a switch channel CRAZY :) didnt expect you here.

    • @donkeyy8331
      @donkeyy8331 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Monolith technical team are beasts for pulling this up

    • @BroHazeman
      @BroHazeman ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's crazy how Nintendo can make excellent Zelda TOTK game using 2015 off the shelf Nvidia Tegra X1 SOC ! That's 8 years ago !!!

    • @ThisisCitrus
      @ThisisCitrus ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Just imagine if it was on current hardware and not limited to a 10 year old mobile phone.

  • @DashieSim
    @DashieSim ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Regarding the physical version not having having the latest performance patch: Nintendo regularly updates the game versions printed on their cartridges. Early copies may not have the latest patch, but copies being printed moving forward should

    • @Psilomyde
      @Psilomyde ปีที่แล้ว +3

      would early copies not receive the patch in an update?

    • @DashieSim
      @DashieSim ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@Psilomyde It would, but it wouldn't be on the cartridge, just in the Switch's storage. Worse for collecting purposes

    • @Psilomyde
      @Psilomyde ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DashieSim ahhh gotcha.

    • @tektight
      @tektight ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Problem with this is most people buy the first iteration of the game not the later pre-patched versions. So the point it moot.

    • @zubochonk9205
      @zubochonk9205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tektightthat is how it worked ever since. Nothing is perfect, online patches are cheaper than recalling the game.

  • @venomr6rider
    @venomr6rider ปีที่แล้ว +444

    Dude... Nobody does an intro like John... He always finds a way to make anything interesting and gets you pumped! The pacing, delivery and information are all top notch!!

    • @Sveakungen
      @Sveakungen ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He is amazing 😊

    • @rtt4163
      @rtt4163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sveakungen He's not

    • @Lloyal23
      @Lloyal23 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “Let’s dive in” with Link actually diving

    • @FelipeCotti
      @FelipeCotti ปีที่แล้ว

      "Paul Key" Mon hurts.

  • @bugrakaradeniz9151
    @bugrakaradeniz9151 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Looks as good as one can look on the Switch

    • @evilcab
      @evilcab ปีที่แล้ว +64

      true, but every time I look at any gameplay video of TOTK, can't help to think that it will be much better on a more powerful machine. I'm pretty sure a remastered/HD version of this game will be day 1 on their next console.

    • @Mirage475
      @Mirage475 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@evilcab The rumor is the next console will be more powerful than a ps4 pro (which is more powerful than the steam deck). Really hope it’s true. I couldn’t care less about having 8K. I just want 60 fps bare minimum

    • @jaroslavmrazek5752
      @jaroslavmrazek5752 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Mirage475 Well PS4 pro is below midrange hardware now so it better. It will always run better on PC tho if you want a better experience.

    • @Chipmunkboy
      @Chipmunkboy ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well perhaps you havent seen Metroid Prime: Remastered.
      ...
      Okay, fine, for an open world its as best at it looks

    • @The_MEMEphis
      @The_MEMEphis ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@Mirage475 PS4 pro has a weaker CPU than the steam deck and an older architecture it just beats the steam deck in raw GPU power it's not really an even match up

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Sound Direction in this game is so amazing and pleasing to heard! Great work there! 👍

  • @ScottAhearnShipbuilder
    @ScottAhearnShipbuilder ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Super Mario Odyssey uses a resolution dip during camera pans to keep the framerate up and it works very well, looks like they brought that over.

    • @max_the_german4989
      @max_the_german4989 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      No, Odyssey uses vertical interlacing, i.e. every frame only renders even columns or odd columns, which is completely different from what we see here in Tears.

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว

      @@max_the_german4989 The actual tech used is not relevant, the fact that ANY tech was used to boost framerate is what's relevant.

    • @max_the_german4989
      @max_the_german4989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kittenburger_prime Yes, it is. Because the tech from Odyssey only works satisfactory for 60 fps. For 30 fps, it would be very distracting.

    • @jamesmiles3341
      @jamesmiles3341 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@max_the_german4989 🤓 🤓 🤓

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว

      @@max_the_german4989 sounds like an opinion not a fact. I hate when game nerds parrot stuff they can’t possibly know firsthand. How about this: The game is already riddled with insanely close texture mipmap thresholds with no filtering, delayed rendering when you stop moving for a bit, huge high contrast jaggies because N just had to make the foliage yellow with dark shadows. Some patches of ground are just gross pixel smears.
      I don’t care honestly what they do to image quality. The framerate is such a freaking headache, on a large screen especially. I just want to move the camera and craft without getting a headache and I don’t care if they run it at 480p.

  • @GTXDash
    @GTXDash ปีที่แล้ว +51

    1:28 I love the pixelated transition to Link to the Past which was a very common effect used on the SNES.

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The one thing I was hoping was improved the most was object pop in. Aka things like wildlife, monsters, chests, etc. I hate how when flying thru the air half the time enemies, wildife & chests and such don't appear til you're fairly close, which makes it hard to scope out areas from a distance for loot. I hope that has been improved significantly, as well as the distance you can travel before objects despawn such as dropped enemy loot and such.

    • @anasshahid224
      @anasshahid224 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s been much improved

    • @hamzabeg6882
      @hamzabeg6882 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      from my experience it's much improved. I feel like enemies spawn in WAY earlier now. there's also a very noticeable difference in how far you can move from objects before they despawn

    • @ReGo001
      @ReGo001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s been improved on objects but if you start looking closely you’ll see a lot of environmental texture pop in

    • @skins4thewin
      @skins4thewin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ReGo001 Ya, I did notice that for sure. Is it not the same for things like chests and such? Or even rocks that Koroks are under?
      More than once I've scouted out areas in the 1st game thinking nothing was there only to come back later & discover a rock that a Korok was under but didnt see because it only spawns in when you get rather close. Just wondering what makes you say that this in particular was improved? Have you actually observed this?

    • @hamzabeg6882
      @hamzabeg6882 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReGo001 yeah, that's still there. idk, i mind it a lot less when the resolution is what it is. it always becomes a lot more noticeable to me on an emulator when everything's clearer

  • @godminnette2
    @godminnette2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Didn't even know the embargo was lifted yet! Glad to see you guys got a review code.

    • @eman6254
      @eman6254 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The game is out in New Zealand.

    • @ForceInEvHorizon
      @ForceInEvHorizon ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@eman6254 the game has been out for 2-3 weeks now in piracy community (Yes the whole game has been leaked and can be played for free)

    • @alaa341g
      @alaa341g ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ForceInEvHorizon in reality i already finished it 4 days ago XD

    • @bend.7590
      @bend.7590 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro it comes out in a matter of hours, of course the review embargo is lifted already.

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I already beat it on PC at 4k60fps.

  • @noobicorn_gamer
    @noobicorn_gamer ปีที่แล้ว +168

    DF’s production quality is just… top notch now that I watch it more than regular game review sites lol damn

  • @Christos_Angelis
    @Christos_Angelis ปีที่แล้ว +61

    They managed to pull off all is incredible huge and detailed game into a 6 year old tablet, while improving on BotWs performance!
    This game deserves a spot among Transport Tycoon/Rollercoster Tycoon and Shadow of the Colossus at the all of fame of video game optimization.

    • @tektight
      @tektight ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RikoFlex67 Not really.

    • @Synkhan
      @Synkhan ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tektight Yes really.

    • @blu6
      @blu6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tektightif you take in consideration of the technology at use then use

    • @b4bnik
      @b4bnik ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more of a 10 - 11 year old

  • @waywardlaser
    @waywardlaser ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Zelda always has an incredible amount of polish. The series has long been a textbook example of how great art direction and optimization can make up for any technical shortcomings.

    • @Mynipplesmychoice
      @Mynipplesmychoice ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sorry but this is a game for babies. Link Ana Mario are the new Burt and Ernie. The vehicle building is fisher price. Sorry I don’t play easy games. Our ancestors lived tough and terrible lives and to play an easy game is an insult to them.. try a dark soul game you wouldn’t last a second!

    • @Bahamut998
      @Bahamut998 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mynipplesmychoicei played all souls games and your comment just sucks 😂 . Zelda games are on another level, they stimulate your imagination in ways souls games never do. But you’re probably too much of a caveman to get it.

    • @HealyHQ
      @HealyHQ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mynipplesmychoice There's no way you're a real person. Nobody is that stupid, surely.

    • @ForeverMasterless
      @ForeverMasterless ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Mynipplesmychoice What a weirrrrddddd elitism you got going there. Does someone like me break your brain? I've beaten every Dark Souls (got every achievement in DS1 twice), got the platinum in bloodborne, beat Sekiro with the demon bell on the entire time, and I'm still excited as hell to play this. Not everything has to be a challenge my guy.

    • @C0ZYL4ZY
      @C0ZYL4ZY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mynipplesmychoiceancestors? Yes, your ancestors will be disappointed in you sitting on YT and posting dumb ass comments instead of doing something with your life.

  • @athlonzero
    @athlonzero ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Finally a game where the publisher don't need to say sorry.

    • @buckcherryy
      @buckcherryy ปีที่แล้ว +36

      finally after all those pokemon fuck ups, where they also didnt say sorry lol

    • @jeremybrown9611
      @jeremybrown9611 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Wait when has Nintendo ever said sorry?

    • @DRex45
      @DRex45 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not like they would anyway lol. Since when does Nintendo apologize

    • @Kaztrofy
      @Kaztrofy ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Nintendo fans never expect to get one either, they love their master no matter what, just like dogs.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@buckcherryyGamefreak not Nintendo the two company run the franchises differently

  • @Михаил-м4у6л
    @Михаил-м4у6л ปีที่แล้ว +677

    God bless 4IFIR for smooth 720p 60fps experience.

    • @Lachesis3D
      @Lachesis3D ปีที่แล้ว +71

      If someone is not in the know, 4IFIR is a software solution to increase performance per watt for Switch. In TotK, for example, you can play at 60fps / 720p even on Lite, in a portable.

    • @PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown
      @PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown ปีที่แล้ว +5

      how?

    • @PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown
      @PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown ปีที่แล้ว

      i have a day one switch. how can i possibly get 60 fps, let alone a clean 30.??

    • @autograph199
      @autograph199 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown4ifir

    • @autograph199
      @autograph199 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PennyweiserTheDrunkenClown4ifir

  • @MoonlitSlime
    @MoonlitSlime ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Hearing that you had the same kind of experience with BotW that I did really piqued my interest. I am much less of a "make my own fun in big open world" kind of guy. I much prefer more compact and crafted games so hearing that they pumped some time into that aspect has me more prone to check this out eventually

    • @notthegoatseguy
      @notthegoatseguy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah this is why I'm more into Spider-Man style open world games in that while you can go anywhere, it definitely leads you in certain directions. Whenever I play like GTA, I just end up stealing cars, shooting people ,and then either crash or get killed by the 5-O. It gives me no direction so I just create anarchy, die, and then end up frustrated and just move on.

    • @Lynkk
      @Lynkk ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@notthegoatseguy How come you say GTA gives you no direction while there are big Icons telling where the next missions are...!?

    • @sneakytrip6594
      @sneakytrip6594 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm of the same mind, but this is exactly why I feel Breath of the Wild was the exception (Along with Elden Ring) - There is so much developer intention in the moment-to-moment gameplay, even in the open world. There's always something to do and discover.
      Now, I haven't played Tears of the Kingdom yet, but when John was describing his issue with Breath of the Wild and comparing it to Tears of the Kingdom and describing the improvements of TotK over BotW, it sounded like either he just played BotW at the wrong time (sometimes you're just not in the mood for a certain game), or TotK is just so densely packed with stuff to do, that there is a marked difference between the two.
      Either way, I'm fuckin' hyped, man.

    • @SpectorEuro4
      @SpectorEuro4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notthegoatseguy GTA gives you so many things to do outside of missions my man.

    • @davemeredith6964
      @davemeredith6964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't be fooled...it's still very similar to BOTW...and this puts me off a bit too.

  • @TheXeroLink
    @TheXeroLink ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I can’t say how relieved I am that this game is finally coming out and is this polished and ready for release 😀

  • @Alex_Logan22
    @Alex_Logan22 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    MGSV had similar levels of interaction and physics simulation within an open world, just in a very different genre, setting and premise. The level of interplay in its systems, with the AI and everything was pretty absurd.

    • @anasshahid224
      @anasshahid224 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That game was a masterpiece 👏👏👏

    • @SimonM7TV
      @SimonM7TV ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah it's cruel irony that MGS at that point felt so played out, everyone involved wanted to move on and Konami barely let it be finished, but then MGS5 felt like a truly thrilling new chapter for those games, and was immediately abandoned.
      A lot of mechanics were lifted out of that game and added into BOTW though, so in a way I suppose new Zelda picked up the baton.

    • @stankbuddha
      @stankbuddha ปีที่แล้ว +1

      another one that released prior to BOTW was GR:Wildlands that game slaps its botw with ubis "polish" and online coop and guns even has the do the campaign in any structure you want but not EXACTLY like BOTW is

    • @shuttzi9878
      @shuttzi9878 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And the optimization was top tier.
      Its locked 60fps on Steam deck at 800p(max res)

    • @unnoticedhero1
      @unnoticedhero1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shuttzi9878 That's because it was also on PS3/360 so they really had to optimize for those old consoles. It is a shame we didn't get more AAA Fox Engine games (I'm not counting those soccer games) because it may not look as good as Decima but IMO it still holds up and runs on just about anything.

  • @monkfishy6348
    @monkfishy6348 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    The reason the patch improves performance so much is because it made FSR dynamic resolution more aggressive and also drops LOD quality drastically compared to v1.0, among other things.

    • @obi-wan3916
      @obi-wan3916 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Shh we don't talk about that. Only really playable in docked mode so having a switch is practically pointless as an xbox/ps port would be superior by default. But ye.

    • @lotus2001
      @lotus2001 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Digital Foundry seems to really be losing its edge recently, reviews have lacked the nuance DF is known for

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Still, better this version than the unpatched constantly 20fps version.
      Nintendo really needs new hardware though

    • @Kalnaur
      @Kalnaur ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@obi-wan3916 . . . why would a Nintendo exclusive property ever be on a different console?
      And I think I've used the Switch in handheld maybe 5 times the entire time I've had it. There's just no reason for me not to play docked basically all the time.

    • @fcukugimmeausername
      @fcukugimmeausername ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@@lotus2001 it's becoming apparent that they are being influenced by large publishers

  • @SirIzike
    @SirIzike ปีที่แล้ว +71

    This was EXACTLY the kind of review I was looking for, from technical performance to a succinct discussion of the game's open-world feel. Thank you very much, DF and John!

  • @FlameLFH
    @FlameLFH ปีที่แล้ว +40

    So far the frame rate has only dropped for me either when there's a lot of fire, many enemies on screen, or while fighting a Battle Talus. It can also drop a ton when attaching many objects using Ultrahand

    • @jousis_
      @jousis_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And when climbing on trees (

    • @louiepikmin3184
      @louiepikmin3184 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@jousis_ So... You're telling me you think the game doesn't even deserve a 5... Because it has some lag? Literally every open world game has spots where the framerate gets rough

    • @jousis_
      @jousis_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@louiepikmin3184 Not only because of that (although it's more than "some lag").
      30fps for an action adventure is not ok (2023)
      no A/A, FSR are very distracting when panning
      90% same visually, *looks* like a DLC
      Too many compromises to make this game run on switch imo. They should have waited for the next gen console.
      So, 5/10 for nintendo exclusive game. That's my opinion, I'm not bashing any1 that can ignore the above and see a 9/10 game. Happy for them, awesome.

    • @louiepikmin3184
      @louiepikmin3184 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @jousis_ Bro doesn't know that it's a sequel and that it's on an underpowered device that's chip is 8 years old

    • @g-fourgaming8657
      @g-fourgaming8657 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the freaking cartridge is still pre patched which sucks

  • @CNM3
    @CNM3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Wow I'm impressed with those physics interactions. Bravo devs.

    • @ELTABULLO
      @ELTABULLO ปีที่แล้ว +8

      imagine if they didn't polish them as much as they did, even on BOTW I never saw physics glitches in more than a hundred hours, you KNOW horses would be flying, bombs would make you clip through the floor and models would be contorted if it were another AAA company behind it

    • @secondchance6603
      @secondchance6603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ELTABULLO "you KNOW horses would be flying, bombs would make you clip through the floor and models would be contorted if it were another AAA company behind it"
      In some cases that's after the patches.

  • @arnab9933
    @arnab9933 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    This feels like a proper send off game for the Nintendo Switch, much like how God of War Ragnarok was the quintessential send off title for the PlayStation 4, squeezing out every ounce of performance from that age old hardware to deliver a breathtaking experience.

    • @JoshuaGlock
      @JoshuaGlock ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I gotta ask what was the send off for Xbox?

    • @ivand5699
      @ivand5699 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@JoshuaGlockhalo? I know Xbox games lack the competition quality.

    • @BroHazeman
      @BroHazeman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, I'm still believed holiday 2023 is the release of Switch 2 with several months from now an announcement

    • @abnerradu3426
      @abnerradu3426 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BroHazeman They already announced no hardware this fiscal year, with ends march 2024 I think, so I wouldnt get my hopes up.

    • @SteelKreel
      @SteelKreel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoshuaGlock we don’t talk about the Xbox One

  • @Daniel-yz3zf
    @Daniel-yz3zf ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is amazing to see. I won't be playing it, but there's just something so exciting about a new Zelda, and I can't actually believe they managed to make it look and run as good as this with how insanely deep and large the game is. Just the game the world of gaming needed with all the current rubbish going on!

    • @bubkabu
      @bubkabu ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why aren't you going to play it?

    • @Ninjabladeyokotofufu
      @Ninjabladeyokotofufu ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bubkabu possibly no switch?

    • @bubkabu
      @bubkabu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninjabladeyokotofufu yeah. they could emulate. it works surprisingly well and is extremely easy to set up

    • @Daniel-yz3zf
      @Daniel-yz3zf ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Hey, yeah unfortunately I don't have a Switch, or a PC that could emulate. I also don't tend to have much time to play games any more (fatherhood!) but still like to keep up with new releases and news etc 👍

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't look exciting to me at all.

  • @VxHokage007
    @VxHokage007 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I am absolutely pumped for this game. Hearing you breakdown the performance put any doubts I had with it to rest. Tomorrow is going to be a great day :DDD

    • @Hughesburner
      @Hughesburner ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My gamestop is releasing tonight at 9pm.

    • @JmMateo933
      @JmMateo933 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool

    • @helplmchoking
      @helplmchoking ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im in NZ so it's been out 10 hours. Ultrahand can be tough on the framerate and there are very occasional low fps moments but in general it's smooth and steady - and miles more detailed and I'd wager at least twice the size of BoTW

    • @roundearthshill248
      @roundearthshill248 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes yes there will be copious masturbation this time tomorrow. Cannot wait

    • @Timbermannetje
      @Timbermannetje ปีที่แล้ว

      Hah I want to sleep now but I cant, I am just too hyped 😅

  • @matthewmorton6462
    @matthewmorton6462 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    The fact that the Zelda team pulled this off is a miracle given the platform limitations, feels real bad that the pokemon team never show this kind of love or effort to their games

    • @Mr.ClimateChange
      @Mr.ClimateChange ปีที่แล้ว +63

      The fact that Pokémon released DLC before making the game playable is such an insane slap in the face too.

    • @jesuschrystler777
      @jesuschrystler777 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      The fact that Pokemon fans keep buying their games regardless tells you a lot about Pokemon fans.

    • @Fabio-lq7wb
      @Fabio-lq7wb ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The thing about GF is that, they put themselves in a terrible situation with the Pokemon franchise. They kinda need to release new Pokemon games much faster than most Nintendo IPs, so with a tight schedule they really don't have time to polish their games enough for the release. The GF situation sucks, and they COULD find different ways to circumvent their situation, but I am not sure if they want to.

    • @JorisJoestar
      @JorisJoestar ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Pokemon team also doesn't get to work on one game for 6 years.

    • @OZEEtube
      @OZEEtube ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They just can’t. They have 1/3 of development time for their games and bo head-room for delays. The Pokemon Company as a whole is at fault, not GameFreak.

  • @JamesGowan
    @JamesGowan ปีที่แล้ว +248

    When DF’s John Linneman is pleasantly surprised by a game’s performance, THAT’S saying something! Great video!

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Well he must’ve completely ignored the handheld version of this game then because it’s competing for “worst handheld mode on the switch” for me

    • @JobbyFraggle
      @JobbyFraggle ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@bananaphone3754 he also hand waved the drops to 20 fps as nostalgic, likening it to old school games dropping frames during intense moments. That’s a baffling one to me coming from anyone at Digital Foundry. Just goes to show how strong the Nintendo goggles are for some people when it comes to childhood favorites.

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@JobbyFraggle very un-john of him honestly. Feeling extremely burned by this review. They’ve never misled me like this before.

    • @qwerty6789x
      @qwerty6789x ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bananaphone3754ep they intentionally not highlighted that this is a docked mode to hide the handheld flaws.

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@qwerty6789x yeah, been playing LA noire on my switch in handheld. It came out in 2011 and looks better than this does.

  • @Tyler-hs9eu
    @Tyler-hs9eu ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Some performance issues aside this game is another masterpiece. The environments/locations, the new mechanics, the timeless music. I do kinda wish this was on new hardware to truly appreciate the world, regardless, a great showing

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Likely whatever next Hardware comes out next tears will be on there with dlc added in a master collection

    • @june_o9
      @june_o9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Day one patch might fix performance issue. I hope so at least.

  • @alexsnow5
    @alexsnow5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Ladies and Gentlemen nobody better suited for a Zelda analysis then JOOOOOOHNNNN Linneman ! I am so DAMN ready for this .

  • @martinaee
    @martinaee ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I feel like I’m in a physical, or maybe “actual” is the better word, place in this game. Physically it has so much feel to everything and the look is so unbelievably gorgeous.

  • @alexandernilssonmusic
    @alexandernilssonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This can be done; with the right amount of time and talent. I can’t imagine what this team could do with the power of something like the PS5.
    So, so happy TotK doesn’t fall behind BotW technically ❤

  • @ninopwns
    @ninopwns ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Wow, didn't expect you guys to have this ready to go already. Hype

    • @nathanwhite704
      @nathanwhite704 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why? All the reviewers get sent copies weeks in advance.

    • @Jason_P
      @Jason_P ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They got an early copy, and in exchange they shill for the game.
      Just more ass-kissing in exchange for access. Disappointing.

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nathanwhite704 Embargo got lifted 21 mins ago (1pm GMT)

    • @nathanwhite704
      @nathanwhite704 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dynasty1818 Yeah and they could've made the video a week ago uploaded it and set it up to publish when the embargo lifted.

    • @ricksanchez6766
      @ricksanchez6766 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Jason_P Digital Foundry don’t do ass kissing lol, if it has bad performance they’ll say it has bad performance. Just because you hate the popular thing doesn’t make everyone else an ass kisser.

  • @kittenburger_prime
    @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว +11

    DF on Elden Ring Poor Optimization: OMG BAD GAME
    DF on Switch Poor Optimization: Poor nintendo it's just too hard!

    • @alumlovescake
      @alumlovescake ปีที่แล้ว +3

      20fps on a Switch is better and more acceptable then 20fps on a 4090

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alumlovescake not really. You aren’t appreciating the nuance of game design. It’s not about the hardware, it’s about what the devs try to do with it. These devs decided to push too hard and not focus enough on performance. 20 fps is unacceptable on ANY hardware because it shows the devs weren’t motivated enough to respect the users comfort. The low frame rates while trying to craft make me physically ill. This isn’t a situation where they had no choices, they chose to focus on other things and performance suffered. There is no rule that it is impossible to make a game like this run above 30, the devs have a choice with how much performance they sacrifice to achieve other goals.

    • @alumlovescake
      @alumlovescake ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kittenburger_prime You are right but my point was ER is worse. The switch can run this game better but the Switch is still quite weak on the other hand seeing Elden Ring stutter like hell while also having frame drops to 40fps even on the highest end machines is a complete joke. I was not saying 20fps is good I personally think even 30fps is subpar.
      Performance is something no one seems to understand anymore. FromSoft can not set a 30fps cap without breaking something. Gothham knights at launch was something...
      I do not think optimization is part of anyones to do list anymore. its a shame because many people defend this with "its a good game so its fine" but its not because its the experience a lot more then people realise.

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alumlovescake I agree with your 2nd paragraph. However, I think it is most accurate to quantify the problem as "too little value put on performance during development" and hand out the blame that way.
      1st thing to get out of the way: Switch is a console with standardized hardware. It sounds like you are comparing ER on PC to Zelda on Switch. This kind of comparison has been frequently answered with the wisdom that games developed for console have a huge advantage. Do you accept that or would you like me to go into the details?
      Example: a lot of the micro-stuttering in ER has been attributed to shader compilation, and on consoles this is simply not a problem because the games ship with the shaders pre-compiled.
      It sounds like you are saying that Switch runs better on console than ER runs on PC and if that's your argument then I say you're comparing apples to oranges. If you want to get into comparing zelda on console to ER on console, I assure that on XSX the game stays very smooth on performance mode, silky smooth in many areas, at 4k HDR. If I am misunderstanding you please let me know.
      Edit: micro stuttering is more of a recent issue and not my favorite example. Generally the wisdom is that the amount of optimization and bug fixing work required on PC is exponentially higher than on console.
      Edit2: I also don't agree with "switch can run this game better" I'm not sure what you are basing that off of. I own ER on PC and Console and I've experienced pretty bad stuttering but that stuttering is close to the normal frame rate of TOTK when crafting or pulling out an explosive arrow. I run ER in a window with a desktop full of junk on a 1080ti at 2560x1440 with most settings high or maximum so it's not like I'm on a monster rig, and the performance is not nearly as dire as you are making it out to be, and even if it is, it's not CONSTANT like with zelda.

  • @SuperboyCK
    @SuperboyCK ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your final words about Tears of the Kingdom being a more "crafted" experience made me more interested than any of the marketing and social chatter to this point. I never found Breath of the Wild all that compelling. I've bounced off it a handful of times after 10-20 hours, never getting all that far or feeling like much progression has been made. Never found it that much fun and ran into situations where the game's systems made it frustrating, tedious, and repetitive. I'll probably still wait for a price dip for TotK or a next gen release, but I hope it's as good as everyone who is anticipating it wants it to be

    • @makemelaughyouants
      @makemelaughyouants ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Waiting isn't a bad idea. Knowing Nintendo they will release the switch 2 in a few months and you can play this game "the way it was meant to be played." That's exactly how they released Breath of the Wild.

    • @alondite215
      @alondite215 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubt TotK will go down in price anytime soon. If you don't "get" what makes BotW such a revelatory gameplay experience, then you should probably skip TotK, too, because it's the same things that make both games good.

    • @Fabio-ql5yf
      @Fabio-ql5yf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alondite215 It won’t though. Switch games very rarely drop in price. And when they do, it’s like 50€ instead of 70€ and not like other platforms where it’s 20€ instead of 70€ after a year.

    • @adams3560
      @adams3560 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you didn’t enjoy Breath of the Wild, you won’t enjoy this. It’s more of the same really.

    • @SuperboyCK
      @SuperboyCK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fabio-ql5yf I'm aware of Nintendo's maddening pricing model, but occasionally Switch games end up on BOGO/B2GO Amazon or Target sales around the holidays 🤷

  • @GGRC
    @GGRC ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Primarily, as a docked player, I'm disappointed by the performance. Sure, it looks good on the smaller OLED screen, but I really want to enjoy this on a bigger screen and the resolution changes and shadow popping (not sure what you would call it) in the first area are very distracting and it already breaks the immersion for me. I like everything else that is going on in this game so far, I just kind of wish this game was saved for their next console.

    • @tears2040
      @tears2040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy this amazing game, stop focusing on the wrong things. This is GOTY

    • @bevinkacon4099
      @bevinkacon4099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tears2040 Shill comment lmfao

    • @MaisistkeinGemuese
      @MaisistkeinGemuese 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to love this game and play through all of it. But the Sharp edges, constant flickering and blurry picture give me headaches after a few minutes.
      It's really sad since this is an amazing game! I never had those issues on botw since it looks much softer and easier on the eyes.
      Sadly it seems Nintendo abandoned this game. Last patch was done around 9 or 10 months ago.

  • @goxy287
    @goxy287 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Aside from technical stuff I'm glad you mentioned how you felt about the game compared to botw because I also didn't like it as much as older titles, but hearing this gives me hopes for this one.

    • @sinisis_sinisis
      @sinisis_sinisis ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you wont like it, if u didnt like botw, you will likely wont llike this one, at its core its main selling point is world exploratiomn, same as botw

    • @DiddyBohlen
      @DiddyBohlen ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sinisis_sinisis you are probably right but this game has way more world interaction. One of the criticisms many had about BOTW was that the world didn’t have much to actually do in the world. That seems to be improved.

    • @lobstrosity7163
      @lobstrosity7163 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, BotW was a major disappointment for me. This one seems a bit better.

    • @goxy287
      @goxy287 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sinisis_sinisis I still have some issues with it but i'd say its way more interesting. I'm enjoying it

    • @SilverSpireZ
      @SilverSpireZ ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠​⁠@@sinisis_sinisisNot necessarily true. I didn’t like BOTW, but I’m having a lot of fun with TOTK. Nearly every issue I had before had been fixed or at least improved to the point where it’s tolerable, and the new mechanics really add to the fun factor. Granted, I paid $50 instead of $70 for it, so that may help, but it’s still a significant improvement regardless.

  • @DunnCarnage
    @DunnCarnage ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yes Zelda Tears of the Kingdom is an amazing technical achievement on dated hardware, but does it have maybe 20 vampires in it? Exactly, Redfall had to try and simulate vampires, an impossible task.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gerboogmaybe trying to defend redfall?

    • @ConcavePgons
      @ConcavePgons ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's cool they were able to stimulate so many of them, but I think Castlevania is on the NES is more impressive. The NES was so underpowered!

    • @gerboog
      @gerboog ปีที่แล้ว

      Skyrim even did a much better job on the vampires and the game is way older.
      Dont even get me started with Vampire Bloodlines , etc.
      Redfall is just an embarrassment.

    • @GETNAKD
      @GETNAKD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lightdarksoul2097 Bro, do you know the meaning of the word "sarcasm"? :d

    • @DunnCarnage
      @DunnCarnage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerboog (it's a joke don't worry)

  • @morpheus517
    @morpheus517 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Majora's Mask didn't "follow the steps" of Ocarina of Time. It reused its engine and assets for the sake of a faster development but the whole world map was built new from scratch, as well as the characters, the story, the overall theme and most of the main mechanics apart from basic gameplay (3 days interconnected arcs periodicity, mask/character transformations, etc). I wouldn't say it's the same case as BOTW and TOTK.

  • @PrettyBlueThings
    @PrettyBlueThings ปีที่แล้ว +41

    100% spot on. Not a bug to be found and an extremely high level of polish on this release, an unfortunate stark contrast to most other AAA releases.. which is just sad. If all games were made with this care and attention we would have some incredible titles to play across all platforms. Sony seem to be one of the only other developers that take this much pride in their work

    • @quibquiberton4184
      @quibquiberton4184 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've found a good number of bugs in my run.

    • @nicolemonrue
      @nicolemonrue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@quibquiberton4184 me too...once I couldn't exit a cave. I was climbing up the entrance lol

    • @quibquiberton4184
      @quibquiberton4184 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicolemonrue The most common one for me is glowing cave fish spawning out of nowhere a few minutes after I climb down into wells.

    • @sebb923
      @sebb923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Capcom

  • @rifatbobos
    @rifatbobos ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Zelda team is just on another level. Props to Monolith Soft as well being able to display such detailed, gorgeous visuals on a hardware like the Switch. Let us enjoy our adventure once again!

    • @adams3560
      @adams3560 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This game isn’t gorgeous by any metric. Watching this video I was thinking “yikes” at times.

    • @tafarimakonnan1763
      @tafarimakonnan1763 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@adams3560 the game looks amazing In my opinion and I have a pretty decent pc.

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adams3560 Your subjective point of view is clearly within the scope of a tiny minority and by no means any indication of any "metric" whatsoever. Please begin to understand the concept of subjectivity.

    • @MysterioTGN
      @MysterioTGN ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tafarimakonnan1763 The game is gorgeous, but has the graphics of a 2017 handheld game, because it does. Imagine what this game would look like if it wasn't limited by a console as fast as an old budget android phone.

  • @masteroflight7296
    @masteroflight7296 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think it’s important to note that BotW was a WiiU game ported to switch while TotK was built for the switch

    • @GenerationZ313
      @GenerationZ313 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am curious as to whether the next game is going to be a cross gen title, though considering it took 6 years to make this game, I'm willing to bet the next game will be exclusively released on Nintendo' next system.

    • @WillParker322
      @WillParker322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that makes this release even more pathetic. lower lod, looks worse and they didnt even showcase the portable non docked mode.

    • @642BigT
      @642BigT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WillParker322I think you are confused pal

    • @cthomas025
      @cthomas025 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GenerationZ313 Sincerely doubtful that the next Zelda game would be cross gen, can't see another Zelda title hitting the Switch. Feels like if anything it would be the next Mario game that is the one to do that.

    • @Klust413
      @Klust413 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@642BigT I don't think they are. A cross gen game should have worked incredibly well on the better platform with the optimizations for an even weaker platform being available.

  • @gurglemurgle5
    @gurglemurgle5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my favorite improvements in TotK has to be the dark areas. In BotW, dark areas sucked, and lighting there was horrible. Dark areas in TotK have much better lighting, and much better ways of lighting them up.

  • @eugkra33
    @eugkra33 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    FSR1 actually really fits well with this game. That naturally turns things cartoony, and is great for GPUs with limited resources, because it's so light.

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's really bad. A lot of artifacts and shimmering shadows. Would be better if they removed it.
      Literally gives me headaches looking at the shrine walls. It's such unstable image .
      Who actually thought this was a good idea

    • @田中健太-q8i
      @田中健太-q8i ปีที่แล้ว

      If only it isFSR2 instead of FSR1...!
      I have no idea why Nintendo chose FSR1

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@田中健太-q8i fsr2 actually has a performance cost. Fsr1 is basically free

    • @田中健太-q8i
      @田中健太-q8i ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dante19890 surely FSR1 is lighter, but FSR2 offers more quality with lower res than FSR1 while FPS is almost same as FSR1
      (for example, please refer to DEATHLOOP)

    • @harrasika
      @harrasika ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dante19890 Fsr1 8s basically free but it also has basically no good visual improvements. I don't notice a single difference between 720p and that upscaled to 1080p on my PC. Fsr2 on the other hand is super great.

  • @buggy946
    @buggy946 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It doesn’t matter what console you own, you will always wish for your favorite game to be played on more superior hardware. I’m excited for Tears of the Kingdom because I know that it’s using the Nintendo Switch hardware to maximum capacity!

  • @sergadrenalin
    @sergadrenalin ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Together with OFW 4IFIR Zelda TOTK goes to 60 fps at 720 resolution, which solves the problems with drawdowns. 🤪🦀

    • @Lachesis3D
      @Lachesis3D ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With perfectly smooth frame time.

    • @foster4241
      @foster4241 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there a guide for this? Do I need to mod my switch?

    • @asuchachigusa1222
      @asuchachigusa1222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only custom firmware switch

    • @heygoogle367
      @heygoogle367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These 4ifir comments are mass upvoted by bots. Don’t fall for these people! Here’s a comment where it CORRUPTED someone’s switch:
      “I didn't get convinced by 4IFIR just quite yet 😡 my switch got corrupted after installing this, thank god I backed up all the folders except nintendo, jksv and emummc before doing this. the error message was about "nosigchk" or something. 👎”

  • @labroomes
    @labroomes ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's great to see the Nintendo seal of quality still exists! I haven't even finished BOTW yet, but already looking forward to playing this when I'm done.

    • @HakaishinCat
      @HakaishinCat ปีที่แล้ว +13

      this is funny considering botw came out with tons of technical issues that people seem to forget

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@HakaishinCat No it didn't. Go hate somewhere else.

    • @mariokart8054
      @mariokart8054 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@HakaishinCat the worst I can think of was choppy frames when there was a lot of grass around on switch, but that’s really it

    • @stevenc2149
      @stevenc2149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you'll burn yourself out haha

    • @oozly9291
      @oozly9291 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HakaishinCat nope

  • @ebridgewater
    @ebridgewater ปีที่แล้ว +6

    07:44 Jon strikes again, putting older games on the right. No one does that in comparisons.

  • @RedfalconX
    @RedfalconX ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How come so many people are willing to ignore the frame rate issues from Zelda but another game has similar issues and they are okay. I definitely can feel the frame rate issues. Just like other games.

    • @sanp3135
      @sanp3135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Given the hardware, and the scope of the game, it makes sense
      Xbox series/PS5 have more power than the switch(hell PS4 had more power than the switch). On top of that both of them touted how much power/performance they are able to put into each game. So when a game underperforms in those consoles despite both having a lot of power. It gets noticed more

  • @tizical
    @tizical ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Game makers like Nintendo should be cherished, it's games like this which are the reason I started in the first place. I can't wait to see all the new puzzles they've come up with and how they've changed the langdscape.

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thanks for getting this out so fast. I’m so relieved to hear about the frame rate, the pre-release footage looked honestly quite bad but it sounds they’ve applied some magic to fix it. I can’t take another Pokémon Violet situation lol

    • @Drstrange3000
      @Drstrange3000 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think this is why Nintendo was so adamant on shutting down leaks because people started running with the narrative that this game ran shitty due to the leaks. It does hurt the reception of the games. YouTibers and their clickbait is awful. I think Nintendo went a bit far, but I understand why.

    • @obi-wan3916
      @obi-wan3916 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Drstrange3000 it does run like trash in portable mode, people have played the game for weeks now.

    • @victorl5402
      @victorl5402 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obi-wan3916 Yeah… a hacked or Nintendo given pre-patch version… of course it’s not going to be running as well as it should. 🤦

    • @obi-wan3916
      @obi-wan3916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Victor L sorry to say that they achieved improvements by massively nerfing draw distance and other graphical settings. Even DF admit the game looks nothing like the trailers.

  • @АртемСтебенев
    @АртемСтебенев ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Where's 4ifir?

    • @heygoogle367
      @heygoogle367 ปีที่แล้ว

      These 4ifir comments are mass upvoted by bots. Don’t fall for these people! Here’s a comment where it CORRUPTED someone’s switch:
      “I didn't get convinced by 4IFIR just quite yet 😡 my switch got corrupted after installing this, thank god I backed up all the folders except nintendo, jksv and emummc before doing this. the error message was about "nosigchk" or something. 👎”

  • @MichaelKingJunior
    @MichaelKingJunior ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Your reviews set the bar for professionalism, thoroughness and reminding us all why we play games in the first place: a sense of wonder and delight. Thank you for taking the time to highlight the soundscape and music. It’s simply a pleasure to watch Digital Foundry reviews. Beyond even the excellent technical analysis, your eye for detail and appreciation of game development always surprise me in some way. Thank you for another fantastic review.

    • @lotus2001
      @lotus2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      recently professionalism has been ignored by this youtube channel, in favor of clickbaity videos that don’t actually inform the user

  • @MegaPsycho84
    @MegaPsycho84 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    This shows you just how much developers matter. Talent, time, effort, and no DLC in sight. Just our beautiful gaming, the way it use to be.

    • @TROBassGuitar
      @TROBassGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Apparently there will be a dlc but I think it'll be awhile especially considering how much there is to do I'm making awesome discoveries every day

    • @theorangecandle
      @theorangecandle ปีที่แล้ว +15

      DLC will almost definitely be coming mate. But at least it's genuinely new content, and not featured withheld at launch for a fee.

    • @8304u
      @8304u ปีที่แล้ว

      >no DLC in sight

    • @deathpiggy101
      @deathpiggy101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @theorangecandle You had to pay $20 for a hard mode in Botw lmao how is that not a feature withheld at launch for a fee.

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt ปีที่แล้ว

      DLC is fine. It's not ideal but they will release some I guarantee.

  • @MerLew
    @MerLew ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nintendo may not always land where they’re audiences expectations are, but when they do they do it so well.

  • @Slashingthrough
    @Slashingthrough ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Great to see it performs, hopefully they will improve further with updates.

    • @ens0246
      @ens0246 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If not then the emulator scene will 😂

    • @Slashingthrough
      @Slashingthrough ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ens0246 that is for sure look at what they did with the previous game

    • @HitokiriShin
      @HitokiriShin ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, it's hardware limited af - optimization is key here. Still excited for it though, can't wait to play it on CEMU in the future. Having played Breath of the Wild in 2017 several times it still felt like a completely different game in 4K60FPS.

    • @flanfrfx
      @flanfrfx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HitokiriShin considering its not a wii u game you arent likely to play it on CEMU... the switch emulation scene is pretty good though so hopefully it'll get good with time for this game

    • @HitokiriShin
      @HitokiriShin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@flanfrfx I meant Emulation in general. Totally forgot CEMU was specifically for Wii U, you are right :^)

  • @JeffYPbPr
    @JeffYPbPr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is a little Grove. In the western part north of guerdo valley. It is at the top of small mtn range. It's filled with apple trees and a camp site. When you get there the origina zelda theme slowly starts playing via piano and a violin. What a moment. I've played about 10 hrs so far and that was the only time that happened. What an experience.

  • @arc789
    @arc789 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    How have John missed to mention that every time you climb a tree and the leafs become transparent the framerate tanks to 20fps?

    • @orpheus0108
      @orpheus0108 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      The game has serious performance issues nobody wants to talk about

    • @trixniisama
      @trixniisama ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It was the exact same in BOTW and has been a huge issue for any game using such techniques for tree rendering.

    • @arc789
      @arc789 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@trixniisama it is nowhere near this bad in botw.

    • @krisridge1985
      @krisridge1985 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the true review people ignore

    • @scaw-j
      @scaw-j ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Frankly this whole video is really strange, the game has MASSIVE performance problems for me. Any time there are more than 2 enemies on screen the frame rate is cut by almost 30%. I also get huge frame drops in towns where things range from 18-30 fps depending on the camera direction. When people say the performance is consistent I feel like I’m being gaslit lol

  • @Justin-op8us
    @Justin-op8us ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's very impressive that the Switch is capable of graphics like these, even if the game suffers from some mildly annoying framerate issues. Can't imagine how incredibly painstaking and stressful it must be to develop and optimize modern games for stone age hardware like this.

    • @filiplaskovski9993
      @filiplaskovski9993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about instead of praising them, we push them to bring out new hardware they’re selling games and demanding full price on dated technology

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@filiplaskovski9993 I'd rather pay 70 euros for this Zelda than 80 euros for Horizon Forbidden West (I have both). People should learn what's important in a video game... We would all want a more powerful Nintendo system but it doesn't mean Zelda BotW/TotK or Mario Odyssey don't worth your money. Actually they do more than many games today

    • @mkiller1001
      @mkiller1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stone age? My guy how old are you?

  • @Lost_Kappa
    @Lost_Kappa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nintendo are wizards and artists at the same time, bravo

  • @GuitarSlayer136
    @GuitarSlayer136 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My switch has been running1080p at a solid 60fps.
    The 32gb of Ram, i5 11600kf, 1080ti, and solid state upgrades I installed really helped.

  • @DJIronChef
    @DJIronChef ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love it. I figured the abilities would do like the last game and cause slight issues, but i'm glad a patch has fixed major performance issues.

  • @kyleharder3654
    @kyleharder3654 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    A polished game at release, truly something to celebrate!

    • @kungfuudennis3290
      @kungfuudennis3290 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That runs at 20 fps lmao

    • @IWantToStayAtYourHouse
      @IWantToStayAtYourHouse ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kungfuudennis3290 Running at 30fps on an ancient hardware like the switch*** context matters bro

    • @kori7795
      @kori7795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@kungfuudennis3290 bro is delusional 😭

  • @Traverswoodward1
    @Traverswoodward1 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I feel like the ultra hand drops are more hampering than you imply. Ultra hand is one of the biggest features of this game, so I assume you are using it a lot. Constantly dropping to 20 every time you pull it out kinda sucks

    • @ckoerner
      @ckoerner ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In my experience, the game is so fun you just don't care. Or notice really. :)

    • @shadowmosesisland2255
      @shadowmosesisland2255 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its not only with ultrahand, also when you climb a tree for example , the framerate drops below 20. Seriously, John finds eldenring unplayable on ps5 but he exepts 20 fps on switch? This is such bs. I really like TOTK but the performance is such a letdown. Weird for Digital foundry to find this exeptable

    • @TheAbvsyork
      @TheAbvsyork ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe it's just me, but I feel like docked the fps Is worse. In handheld, it wasn't as bad.

    • @destroyermcw626
      @destroyermcw626 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowmosesisland2255 WELP then you now you know who the Shill is ect.

    • @krispaiton6425
      @krispaiton6425 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@shadowmosesisland2255 cry harder ps fanboi. I can barely hear you. 🤌😬

  • @Ice_2192
    @Ice_2192 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank goodness it was just the emulation issue with the framerates. I'm playing it right now and having a blast with the shrines testing you how to pass their tests by building things. Once you get a hang of how to build things together, the possibilities on how to complete certain menial tasks becomes endless.

    • @Wizard_Pikachu
      @Wizard_Pikachu ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. I also stopped with emulating after finishing Death Mountain, due to FPS issues and wanting to play it on my TV.

    • @Edog1337
      @Edog1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you are pirating this?? A game a group of humans put their blood sweat and tears for years?? There certainly is evil in the world….

    • @Ice_2192
      @Ice_2192 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Edog1337 No I have no intention of continuing playing on an emulator. I have already pre ordered the game on amazon. I just wanted to play the game early. Don't be so triggered. Due to the leaks many people have already played the game. Piracy isn't a new thing these days. Calm down. Also Nintendo shutdown the eshop stores for 3ds an wii u recently and some of those games are exclusive to those stores (cannot be found at amazon, best buy, costco, steam, etc.) where "a group of humans put their blood sweat and tears for years" is, at this time, gone without emulation. Nintendo removing access to games that cannot be found anywhere besides the shop they just closed? "There certainly is evil in the world". Not all emulation is bad. Your argument isn't valid anymore in today's gaming industry.

    • @ImGonnaFudgeThatFish
      @ImGonnaFudgeThatFish ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​​@@Edog1337 imagine thinking it's evil to want to play these beautiful games with wonderful art design at an acceptable resolution and framerate

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Edog1337 lol you a funny guy

  • @christopherbaxter434
    @christopherbaxter434 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks John I was speculating pre-ordering my copy, but after watching this review, I have no hesitation in purchasing.

  • @killdano
    @killdano ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @01:43 "cannot be understated" -- you mean 'overstated'. Understing something big and important is easy.

  • @garymoon6230
    @garymoon6230 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    An amazing achievement, Nintendo never seem to disappoint with Zelda or Mario.

  • @Nanomaroni
    @Nanomaroni ปีที่แล้ว +11

    09:50 after playing the digital Version (internal storage) for two hours now, I feel like this statement is a bit generous.
    Every time I climb a tree, take the bow out and aim or do other small things, the game dips in the framerate. I feel like it's a very stuttery experience overall compared to BOTW.
    Also the Resolution reminds me more of XC2 than BOTW. The game looks very unsharp, in Docked and Handheld Mode (Oled Switch). It's like if I take my Glasses off and I see everything blurred yet still have rough and sharp edges on objects.
    Don't get me wrong, the scale is impressive and the game still plays great! But I feel like Reviewers are a bit too kind for issues the game clearly has.

    • @MB-hq3rv
      @MB-hq3rv ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Totally agree, my experience has been identical.

  • @The-One-and-Only
    @The-One-and-Only ปีที่แล้ว

    glad you mentioned the lower resolution when the camera moves, thought I was imagining it.

  • @LiamKennedy-nc1wn
    @LiamKennedy-nc1wn ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Honestly insane how it's running as well as it is, they are pushing the switch to it's damn knees
    And yet even with the few performance issues it's somehow able to hold up better than other platforms games (looking at you Jedi and Redfall)

    • @WickedlNl
      @WickedlNl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its 30 fps....reason why most new games get shit on but since its a Zelda then nobody talsk about it. Every other third person MUST have a 60fps option but somehow this crap gets away with 6 year old tech.

    • @LiamKennedy-nc1wn
      @LiamKennedy-nc1wn ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@WickedlNl yes.. that's why it's pretty much fine, 30fps on the switch with a game of this scale is insane
      Games on top of the line PC's and next gen consoles have no excuse not to be 60, thats the difference

    • @asteria9963
      @asteria9963 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@WickedlNl it depends on the game. zelda simply does not require 60 fps. 40 would have been nice though

    • @ciabatta55
      @ciabatta55 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@asteria9963 im sorry nope. This is Nintendo fans sucking off Nintendo for doing the bare minimum. Bayonet 3 frames per second, hyrule warrior calamity frame rate, Pokémon dropped and Pokémon frames. Tears of the 30 frames per second. Any other company would have been destroyed by people for this.

    • @bevinkacon4099
      @bevinkacon4099 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ciabatta55 If it could maintain 30 throughout then I'd be legitimately impressed but this game dips to 15 regularly. Only the biggest shills give this a pass.

  • @Somewhere_sometime_somehow
    @Somewhere_sometime_somehow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This for me is the definitive review of TotK. And I dont even care about performance nearly as much as a lot of gamers. You really know how to describe the game and its qualties without spoiling the content. Something Eurogamer can learn from. But... I dont agree about newer tech, I think its a huge plus this is released on hw people already own and there is just one version. Especially since it measures up.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should care about performance though. Unless you don't pay for your games, you should get what you paid for, and optimisation is part of what you're buying. TotK is well optimised overall (considering the hardware) but still, you should care for that. Games are expensive.

  • @lameritos
    @lameritos ปีที่แล้ว +120

    4ifir дает возможность играть в 1080p

    • @Lachesis3D
      @Lachesis3D ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Полагаю, их больше удивит 60fps в 720p на 4IFIR-е, доступные буквально в любой игре.

  • @lexxington8773
    @lexxington8773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Late to the party but yes, I did find this video useful thanks!

  • @Aristowi
    @Aristowi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my opinion every Nintendo game is too big for Switch. I rather miss on these great games than playing them in low framerate, low quality visuals and low resolution, my backlog is too large anyway. Nintendo consoles are not good enough for me since the GameCube. If I need to play these games in the future there's always emulation for a better experience (4K 60fps), I know it might not be "correct" for some people but if Nintendo won't make capable home consoles then I won't buy their underpowered alternatives, the Switch is just not appealing to me.

    • @dariosandoval3608
      @dariosandoval3608 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nintendo doesn't cared about power after the Gamecube.
      There were games on Gamecube that looked better than Wii, which was really weird

    • @isaiahkern9434
      @isaiahkern9434 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dariosandoval3608 gamecube flopped, and put nintendo in trouble. And that was after the n64 didn't do so hot either.

  • @kins888
    @kins888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Digital foundry reviews are the best 🏆

  • @nashdash6404
    @nashdash6404 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "I sure would have loved experiencing this on a more powerful machine"
    My feelings with Nintendo games since 2006.

    • @dukeminty
      @dukeminty ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nintendo systems are marketed to be cheap; if they sold stronger hardware and had to compete with Sony and Microsoft in prices, these systems wouldn’t sell the same

    • @ziegfeld4131
      @ziegfeld4131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PC my friend play it on emulator

    • @athena9029
      @athena9029 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dukeminty The Xbox Series S says Hi. TONS more much powerful than a Switch, sold for the same price or less if compared to the OLED.

    • @KrisGadventures
      @KrisGadventures ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dukeminty but they aren't cheap. They are 300-350. So only 50-100 less than a PS5 and it's over 6 years old. And their games almost never go on sale.

  • @GhostOfSparta305
    @GhostOfSparta305 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, as much as I love Nintendo's game design, I simply can't stomach settling for 30fps. I waited till BotW was available on CEMU to get a proper framerate, and I guess I'll also wait for a PC emulator to properly play this one.
    Nintendo should really, REALLY consider releasing their games on PC. I can't think of two more non-competing markets than Nintendo consoles and PC.

    • @dr_sax1479
      @dr_sax1479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The game is super responsive even at 30 fps honestly.

    • @Technoko
      @Technoko ปีที่แล้ว

      I wake up everyday and thank Christ I’m not a person like you

    • @l.vanhielf6174
      @l.vanhielf6174 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro 30 fps is not the problem, the problem is the constant resolution drops and aliasing flickering. It kills your eyes.

  • @boredstudent
    @boredstudent ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a game I was looking forward to playing since it was announced. I even started Breath of the Wild all over again.

  • @Grapefruit5000
    @Grapefruit5000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The amazing interactivity and dynamic of the world. I love that and I much prefer something like that with simpler graphics over a static world with ray tracing. Dynamic systems are what makes me come back to a game because they never get old. That's why I love GTA, Skyrim, Fallout and the earlier Battlefield for instance with their destruction.

    • @jamesmiles3341
      @jamesmiles3341 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skyrim and fallout really?

    • @kamiotamega5317
      @kamiotamega5317 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesmiles3341 I don't remember being able to destroy the environment in bethesda games (do love permakilling npcs though)

    • @jamesmiles3341
      @jamesmiles3341 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kamiotamega5317 ikr maybe he played it with mods

  • @Fmakegeo6
    @Fmakegeo6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Constant resolution changes and texture pop ins are quite a distraction. I wish they sorted this issue out since this game does not have a very high fidelity. Is there anyway to fix these issues in docked?

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Have you tried to play in handheld mode? The game is borderline unplayable. It’s insulting how bad it looks and runs.

    • @Fmakegeo6
      @Fmakegeo6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bananaphone3754 i feel the game is meant to be played in handheld thats why these issues seem prevalent. I just don't understand why these tech reviews or reviewers are not critical enough. I understand that the hardware tech is not up to the scope but still

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Fmakegeo6 no you misunderstand, I’m saying it’s EVEN WORSE in handheld mode. The resolution is dynamic 720p upscaled using FSR 1. Emphasis on DYNAMIC. Every time you move even slightly the resolution drops and the FSR cranks up making the aliasing so bad that it hurts my eyes. I literally refuse to play the game in handheld mode because of how much worse it looks.

    • @destroyermcw626
      @destroyermcw626 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bananaphone3754 Eww Botw in Handheld Sounds like it did a better job when i used that in hand held

    • @senorsnipey1595
      @senorsnipey1595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The game looks amazing at the end of the day

  • @jordanfry2899
    @jordanfry2899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video - One suggestion though, if you could add image quality options of 1440p or 4K that would be really appreciated.
    I know this game is 1080p but TH-cam's bitrate at 1080p is very low. It does spoil an otherwise great video for me as I just have to believe you as the visuals as shown aren't accurate to how it looks.

  • @brandonthaxton8830
    @brandonthaxton8830 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    It’s incredible what Nintendo can do on this hardware. Wish other developers had this kind of passion

    • @Silphwave
      @Silphwave ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wish Game Freak took note

    • @MerQrialLP
      @MerQrialLP ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Looking at you Game Freak

    • @andrewnicholls4667
      @andrewnicholls4667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Silphwave Nintendo don’t give them enough time or money to make something on this scale. We just get half arsed Pokémon games now and it’s sad when a Pokémon game on this scale would be mind blowing

    • @Dragonsamuari
      @Dragonsamuari ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@andrewnicholls4667 It's not Nintendo, it's the Pokemon Company; they're the ones that want the games to coincide with the releases of merch, the anime, and everything else.

    • @GuY-ExE
      @GuY-ExE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Dragonsamuari nintendo owns 33% of the pokemon company

  • @bananaphone3754
    @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Not gonna lie, this review has made me VERY skeptical of John’s future reviews. I bought this following his praise and I’m extremely disappointed. Like WOW it looks horrible. Not the art. The art is fine. The style looks good. But holy SHIT the FSR implementation in this game is unforgivable. The handheld version especially. It’s the worst upscaling I have EVER seen in a game, no exaggeration. The first drop out of the cave I think it went as low as 360p and looked like a garbled, confused mess with FSR trying to up scale it. If you play on handheld or have a switch lite DO NOT BUY THIS GAME. I’ve always held Digital Foundry in extremely high regards considering they have the balls to admit when a new game is a technical mess, and now I’m scratching my head wondering how you let this one slide through without admitting that it’s fucking TERRIBLE in handheld mode.

    • @bananaphone3754
      @bananaphone3754 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      After about 30 minutes of playing this game in handheld I’m calling bullshit. Nintendo has to be putting money in your pockets for you to not lambast the handheld mode in this game. It’s literally the worst looking game in the last 10 years and it runs like shit.

    • @jackyvanmarsenille8547
      @jackyvanmarsenille8547 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, when they completely ignored the hand held analysis, I knew something was up.

  • @HeretixAevum
    @HeretixAevum ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Personally, I have to disagree on your positive appraisal of the performance, I'm finding to be a bit choppy and not all that consistent. I'm noticing some big drops when using the slate's zoom function (to put markers on the map) or when fire or explosions go off, and also when climbing trees and the leaves go transparent when you get to the top (in addition to the town and ultrahand drops you discussed).
    It's not unplayable imo and I'm enjoying the hell out of the game, but given that I emulated botw and I just finished playing skyward sword HD (which runs at a rock solid 60 in handheld), this level of performance is certainly requiring quite a bit of adjustment from me.
    I'm sure it runs a bit more consistently docked but I'm just personally not all that interested in playing that way as I have a PC and PS5 for that kind of experience (and they do a way better job at it, too). To me, the entire appeal of the switch is that it is a handheld, I probably wouldn't have bought it at all if I was going to constantly use it docked to get optimal performance.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's funny cause I have an Xbox Series X and a PS5 but I still enjoy playing games on my Switch docked. Why ? Because there is nothing like a Zelda or a Mario game. Was playing Horizon Forbidden West before starting TotK and while it does look absolutely fantastic, I sometimes wonder if I would play this game if it wasn't for the graphics...
      Nintendo is always a good reminder that video games aren't just about 4K, Ray Tracing and yadiyada... I personally forget about the technical stuff when I play on my Switch, and sometimes it feels good to just "play".
      That said, we all agree on the fact that the Switch was already an outdated piece of hardware when it came out, it's not getting better today. Hopefully we'll have something new and decent "soon".

  • @Azimys_sight
    @Azimys_sight ปีที่แล้ว +46

    If you know how Zelda works on 4ifir at native 720p and 60fps. But you are blinded.

    • @Lachesis3D
      @Lachesis3D ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess, it's not their fault, they were deliberately fooled.

    • @Azimys_sight
      @Azimys_sight ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lachesis3D I hope that 4ifir will increase the gaming experience of as many people as it can.

    • @Lachesis3D
      @Lachesis3D ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Azimys_sight Sooner or later, I believe, the majority will know about it.

    • @vladimirs6258
      @vladimirs6258 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lachesis3D привет кулер! Спасибо за твои старания, премного благодарен!

  • @v7exrd9bwf72
    @v7exrd9bwf72 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn its still bad. Sad that DF is simping on Nintendo nowadays. We are on 2023, cmon.

  • @VoiceofFox
    @VoiceofFox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:42 "The weight of expectation and historical importance cannot be OVERstated" is what I think you meant.

  • @Nocc2991
    @Nocc2991 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so awesome. I'm going to remember tomorrow forever. Nothing like playing it for the first time.

  • @ankd956
    @ankd956 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I expecteed this game to be at least as good as BOTW but holy crap, its unexpectedly ambitious!! its so good! i cant stop playing it

  • @KrisGadventures
    @KrisGadventures ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So using one of the main new mechanics drops frames into the 20s and yet the community says how impressive Nintendo is. Other games drop below 60 on PC and Ps5 and everyone complains and says they are "unplayable." Gaming standards are weird

    • @louwashe
      @louwashe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hardware expectations. games that look as bad (for the standard) as, say, Survivor and not being able to get a stable framerate in even low-intensity scenes is worth complaint. a game that looks as good as is as complex as totk running as it does on the switch (literal potato) is worth praise.

    • @nodstarted
      @nodstarted ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@louwashe I don't know what expectations are you talking about. It's not like they have to achieve some arbitrary level of graphics when developing the game. If that is the only platform your game exists, than you should ensure that it runs well on that platform. Like if a certain effect drops the performance, replace or remove the effect completely. You cannot tell that resolution and stable fps matters and then make excuses like "you know this game is so good that you can look past its performance". Because it's a rabbit hole. Today it's fine that a game drops to 20 and runs at half the native res, tomorrow you will get the game that runs like 15fps.

    • @AstaIsAMonster
      @AstaIsAMonster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s what I’m saying because these guy/team got mad that DMC5 wasn’t a stable 60ps but they are in awe with this game that can’t even hit a stable 720p 30FPS(dips to 10-15fps at time.) 😂 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @KrisGadventures
      @KrisGadventures ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AstaIsAMonster Right! They often imply that a lot of next-gen games are barely even playable when they don't have a solid 60 fps. It just feels like a double standard. I for one am fine with a locked 30 for more cinematic single player games. But 20's is unplayable.

  • @magnus00125
    @magnus00125 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Work hard devs, work hard. Impressive results

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee ปีที่แล้ว +9

    what Nintendo did with TOTK on the Switch reminds me a lot of what Rockstar did with GTA 5 on the 360, absolutely insane levels of detail and optimization on absolutely ancient/slow hardware. Its a technical masterpiece that has to be applauded.

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't do a very good job, they should have made cuts until performance was better, but they chose not to because people like you let them.

    • @sourceeee
      @sourceeee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kittenburger_prime cry more

    • @sourceeee
      @sourceeee ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kittenburger_prime your comment also shows me you seem to know absolutely nothing about hardware or game optimization, that is hilarious

    • @kittenburger_prime
      @kittenburger_prime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sourceeee you probably want to erase that embarrassing “cry more” response. There, little Nintendo fanboy, I’m doing you a favor.
      What do you think optimization is? 🤡 it’s a balance. They could have made the game run at 60 fps if they had the will to make the cuts.
      Example: in the opening sky island the lod of medium distance geometry is far higher than necessary. They could make the background geometry simpler so the entire game doesn’t suffer.
      They had options to design the game with better performance but they didn’t.
      Then they do stuff like use high contrast yellow foliage in the opening area, which accentuates the jagged edges and upscaling artifacts. They’re just delusional at this point, not even adapting the art style to the system limitations.

    • @jousis_
      @jousis_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kittenburger_prime The game does not look good even at 30fps (with 15fps drops ffs).
      Switch can only do 60 in small games, or arena fighters (splatoon for ex.).
      But they SHOULD have made more compromises, game is not a masterpiece. It does not run well.

  • @duppypixels
    @duppypixels 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely love tears of the kingdom… just like i loved breath of the wild before it. I didnt think they would be able to produce that same magic feeling that we got from BOTW, because it usually never happens with direct sequels, but they did it. We had alot of great games come out this year, and i personally enjoyed re4 remake, starfield and BG3 on xbox, along with re8 vr and spiderman 2 on ps5, but Tears of the Kingdom is my personal game of the year… a switch game that felt more “current gen” to me than most games that released these past couple of years. Gotta love Nintendo

  • @fancyjoey9102
    @fancyjoey9102 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    70$ for a game that drops down to 20 fps using a basic building mechanic lol idk man... might get this for the next system nintendo comes out with.

    • @thecultofcaged
      @thecultofcaged ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't support this crap pirate it or don't play it at all

    • @MrDs7777
      @MrDs7777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thecultofcaged Go play your pc master race games that stutter on a $2,000 GPU

    • @thecultofcaged
      @thecultofcaged ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDs7777 I know that the game is good I mean don't support Nintendo at all they are just a scummy company
      Also if the game on switch is also dropping frames your argument is a moot point

  • @xNSHD
    @xNSHD ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It amazes me how it can have performance drops like this yet still 10\10 simply because Nintendo and zelda.

    • @cheke_hs
      @cheke_hs ปีที่แล้ว

      @RedPillRahim Or maybe, just maybe, the game is incredible and the frame drops don’t detract from the experience at all?

  • @cptnoremac
    @cptnoremac ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:42
    I think you mean "cannot be overstated." If it can't be understated, that means it's so insignificant that nothing you say about can possibly be an understatement.

  • @ChipHaven_Dan
    @ChipHaven_Dan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    more info on the handheld performance would have been great

    • @adams3560
      @adams3560 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, they didn’t really look at handheld performance vs docked performance.