10 Forever Tarnished Legacies
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Poor Ben, how did getting knocked out the fastest in ufc history, not end up being his most embarrassing loss. Lol
Dude... I've never thought about that😂😂😂
That is pretty bad to think about. For ANYONE ELSE IN MMA, that would be their worst most embarrassing lost....
He’s a wrestler who’s a grown man with a family , y’all will have a better mindset when you’ve matured
That fight was such a fix
Nah a wrestler getting ko’d in boxing for $500,000? He proper said he didn’t have a chance if Paul was not terrible at boxing too.
"Then he got TKOd by Jake Paul but I don't want to talk about that." Lmao- poor Askren
That’s what I just wrote
@@adamawesome-o6776 I hear ya.. all the other funny quotes had been taken- it was the only one left so I went for it.
Went from a what-if undefeated fighter to the one of the biggest losers in mma
Jake Paul did train and put in the work and time for this fight. You really cannot deny that.
@@VincentKathakraoff and Ben.. yea
The people who actually believe that Brock wasn't roided until he was popped probably also believed everything in the WWE was real.
Brock was arrested for illegally receiving a shipment of growth hormone while he was in OVW(one of WWE's developmental territories at that time). He beat it on a technicality, though. He was on the gas long before he ever made it to UFC. It's honestly surprising nobody in the mma media dug that story up when he first transitioned.
The people who believe Mark Hunt wasn't on PEDs fighting in his 40s are equally delusional. If you think any champion athlete isn't on them, you're delusional. Lesnar has top tier genetics regardless of PED use.
All of them are on stuff
@@TheGr8one1022 You think every single middle aged or senior athlete is on PEDs? Please educate us.
@@thesprock5270 You think every single middle aged or senior athlete did steroids? Please list your sources.
When Holm kicked Ronda in the head and knocked her out is by far one of my favorite mma moments in history.
Ronda was one of the most classless champions in ufc history literally had no humility at all
She was always so cocky and full of herself. Holly exposed her. All Ronda was is a judo throw and an arm-bar.
I had a similar feeling of Conor McGregor back at UFC 229.
Thoroughly enjoyed seeing him get the dogshit beat out of him.
She also had everybody in her camp fueling her arrogance. I'm not sure she would have been quite so classless had she been in a better camp, with better coaches and constantly surrounded by stone cold killers. I guess we'll never know
"Everyone has a mouth until they're punched in the mouth."
- Chael P. Sonnen
i thought it went "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". sorry if im wrong and just being stupid
@@nerdingout3560 think your mistaking this Mike Tyson quote , which he stole from Chael many years after
"Everyone has a mouth" - Some Scientist
The og music and Tommy. Vintage mma on point… nice
I am glad that Tommy is back
What's the intro theme? Does anyone know?
Glad to hear that fucking awful music is gone. It was an instrumental track but had the guy beatboxing instead of just using a drum track, you'd just hear the guy pspsping in your ears if you were listening with headphones and it was so bad, and had cringy adlibs (eg "damn boy"), just sounded fucking horrible all around
No Ben Rosette music or shoutout as well... Which I don't mind.
Ben Rosette will never be missed.
Remember, Ronda wanted to beat up Paige Van Zant cause she congratulated Holm on the win.
That is very petty of Ronda.
I'm pretty sure Rousey was never taught how to lose.
Otherwise she wouldn't have acted so pathetic about it.
The good thing about Askren is that he is a chill dude, great loser, and he doesn’t give a crap what any of us think of his legacy. That attitude makes his legacy a good one.
That’s what’s saving him if he was a huge loser that couldn’t take L’s he would be top 3 in this list
He has no legacy, what is it?
He didnt even fight anyone his whole career and got so lucky against Lawler.
I mean it was a fake fight 🤦🏽♂️
@@user-lo8km1ws7y lima? Shows you’re a casual.
@@user-lo8km1ws7y Douglas Lima??
"10 times Jon Jones tarnished his legacy"
😂😂😂😭
At this point this video is becoming more and more likely
Hard to find 10
baemax lpz hard to rank just 10*
Jon bone head jones
"It would be like Garfield liking Mondays." Damn Tommy your deep insightful analogies always get me to fully grasp the situation.
I actually LOLd when he said that.
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The more you go into Gracies the more you realies they are fake Nice guys all of them... And no he didnt make Pride, he went there to get his head kicked by Sakuraba the OG..
@@AxxLAfriku I want whatever meth you’re on
You know what’s sad about Garfield hating Mondays? The fact that Mondays are the day that John goes back to work after having a couple days to spend with Garfield. Garfield doesn’t hate Mondays, he just misses John
11:47 - Hilariously, Cody didn't just accuse TJ of using PEDs, he actually said *_"You're the one who showed everyone how to do it at Team Alpha Male."_* So, he basically admitted that he (Cody) and everyone else who trained at Team Alpha Male were on PEDs as well! Cody is..... shall we say: *_Not_* the sharpest tool in the shed? 🤣
God certainly did not hand out brains and fighting skills equally.
Right they saw how it’s done but doesn’t necessarily mean they decided to use it too.
Cody is such a bonehead 😂
@@lionsden5123 Maybe he did and we'll just never know, thanks to all the concussions
Cody garbrant is definitely on this list now especially after last weekend with his lose to kia kara france. 1-6 in his last 7 from beat cruz to 6 straight Ls in different divisions
Hell always be a beast, but I would take some time off if I were him. Get a clearer picture.
It's not 6 straight. He beat assuncao between the losses
The Captain Planet analogy was, dare I say, on point.
Well played, kind sir
I see what you did there. Nicely done ✔
Okay Ariel 😂
but why did they use don cheadles version
Does anyone want to sleep with me
Don’t forget TJ was very enthusiastic to kill the Flyweight Division, meaning a lot of men would’ve lost their jobs, after beating Cejudo. Thank God none of that happened.
They probably wouldn’t have lost their jobs they just would’ve been bumped up to bantamweight but I agree that’s a fucked thing to think about
@@venomousstriker4715 And the worse part is they wouldn't do that good in bw either
who gives a shit about 125 lbs men fight anyway
@@stevemadden137 Ummm, I think you'll find the majority of people think the Bantamweights are slick and THEY "give a shit"!
@@husman2007 bantamweight is 135lbs my guy. 125lbs is flyweight
This video just emphasized the greatness of GSP.
Never popped in a drug test, clean image for his whole career and maybe the GOAT in MMA. He had the perfect career.
@@aleksanderb.5254 might not be better technically than Jon but because he's never had an asterisk next to his name, he's my GOAT.
@@ahadmerchant9498 to me jones was always the better fighter, but GSP the greater one. Similar to how ali will always be the greatest boxer ever to me even though there were probably better ones
@@ahadmerchant9498 thats how i feel. in terms of pure resume jon probably takes it over GSP, but the drugs, the peds, the being a piece of shit outside of the arena, i cant put him in goat contention over people like gsp, mm or even khabib
No excuses for Anderson. He said it himself. "Those that get caught haven't just started doing it, they've been doing for years on top before they got caught." Anderson Silva Lance Armstrong'd you all.
"When you take steroids, you take them for a long time; they're a drug and they're not good for the sport"©Anderson Silva (after the Dan Henderson fight)
Yup. My only counter is that almost everyone, especially in Middleweight and pretty much all his opponents were also on PEDs. So, he would have been at a major disadvantage if he wasn't juicing most of his career. A clean MW division would have proven Bisping to be the top of the food chain for his generation.
jon jones also use drug no fair
@@Dukeflyhawker At that point though we're basically making just excuses for the guy because we love him. We'd never give Jon Jones the same amount of leniency lets be honest. You have to be consistent and call a spade a spade, the man was a proven drug cheat. He's still the greatest Middleweight of all time and a top 5 GOAT fighter, but he did tarnish his legacy with those drug test failures and consecutive losses.
@@madgavin7568 no, I don't make excuses out of love. With Jones and Anderson, I always cheered against them during their title runs. I just recognize cheating was rampant pre usada and probably even today. testing just hasn't caught up.
There's just no way to argue in favour for anyone else as the goat of 185 or 205. Discount those two and we have to go back to Frank Shamrock and Tito Ortiz for longest title runs at those respective weight classes.
" fighters significant other"
* shows chiesa talking about mother*
Don’t you talk about his fucking mom!
@@griff1286 lmaoooo
The only woman he needs
@@buckokid5930 That nearly killed me.
#rolltide #sweethomealabama
It's kinda wholesome if you ignore the incest
Speaking of all those UFC records, Jon Jones also holds the record for 1st place finishes on MMA On Point Top 10 lists
Srsly?
Ben and Tyron actually had similar falls from grace. Dominance followed by the steepest decline possible
Sadly both beat by Jake Paul too.
Tyron was a clown the whole time though. On top of his division but still crying about racism the whole time.
I'd like to add Jonny Hendricks, he went from "The Guy who nearly Dethroned GSP" to "That guy who couldn't make weight"
S/O to Dakota Cochrane and Paulo Costa for beating the leftover TRT off Johnny's pudgy azz
@@muchsanchez946 They didn't fight the prime Hendrick's.
@@olliefoxx7165 There was no prime Hendricks. Only PED Hendricks. To put into perspective, both Jonny and GSP fought their last MMA fights at Middleweight, at UFC 217. Except Georges was 36 years old and winning the title, while Hendricks was 34 and on the end of a 3-7 record in his last 10 fights, and hadn't knocked a guy down, let alone out, since before he became a #1 contender. He goes down as one of weakest champions in UFC welterweight history
@@Dukeflyhawker exactly lmao, theres no such thing as prime hendricks. Only ped/trt hendricks. On the same night of ufc 217. GSP became a double champ. And hendricks got tko'd by paulo costa increasing his losing streak to 4. LMAO
The guy that got screwed by the judges
Hilarious how TJ bragged about how his team monitored him down to the cellular level, but none of them knew about the PEDs.
Under rated comment
They helped him
Oh trust me. They did. Especially the one involved with his nutrition or strength and conditioning
Every time with these lists I'm like I wonder who could be number one
Then I remember Jon Jones exists
Doesn’t matter what the list is about. Jon manages to be number one every time xD
@@YvanTDF 😂 right
I mean did we really *not* think JBJ was gonna be number one on any list about *completely* fucking up?? I think not.
No 1 pictogram
Dudes a walking spoiler being #1 on so many of these types of lists
“And he could walk in right now in his flip flops and 50-45 that whole division.” Cut to the clip of Ben in flip flops I love it 😂😂
I like how you got Chiesa up there flipping out about his mom as Tommy narrates "talking about a fighter's significant other" it's the little things MMA on point that makes you guys the best
Seeing BJ lose the way he did at the backend of his career was just sad
I'd like to disagree but I can't.
@@crzxm Honestly I would’ve made BJ number one on this list.
BJ was too stubborn for his own good, and Dana White just couldn't say no to him.
@Googlag Inmate #666 that's Babe Ruthless
Especially the ones in parking lots
haven't watched but i already know Jon Jones is #1
But ofcourse
I never took PED usage as a big L considering 1st that almost every great fighter has had some sort of PED usage in their history and also the fact that a lot of the guys competing are using too and just not getting caught. It’s a foolish notion to think that they don’t still have a way to get away with using
Back in the day, especially from the mid-late 90’s to the early 2000’s, almost everyone was juicing hard.
Just look at adesanya x Paulo costa, both of them clearly using them, adesanya even had man breast from it
If that were true then they’d just allow them to use it
Yeah same.
Im glad we have testing, so atleast the gear usage is under control tho. Wouldnt want fighters on ungodly amounts of halo running around, so at least the testing limits what and how much they can take
@@supersaiyansalamence bro you can literally watch interviews of USADA representatives saying that they know these guys have ways to get around the testing. They aren’t following them around everywhere at all points in time. Especially guys out of the country.
This was a fantastic subject....one of the better ones you guys have ever done.
MMA On Point always bringing the heat.
Holy shit the old music! Never ever change again pls.
That No Title Defense should really be part of that narrative more though.
Idk I kinda understand it. What I don’t understand is his poc behaviour
It absolutely would be if there weren't some seriously heinous shit overshadowing it.
Punch an old dude at a bar, as a pro fighter... fuck man.
@@hhiippiittyy There is a few of thoses where if he wasnt the ufcs biggest star he most likely would of been cut from the ufc... but since hes mcgregor dana still wants to be his friend :D
@@jackleese7949 poc?
I agree you can't win the title in 2 of the most competitive divisions and just refuse to defend it. Not to mention his last few fights
Sorry it took a while, I've watched a ton of this channels vids and generally find them really entertaining. Having followed UFC events for well over ten years but not the outside shenanigans so much, I learned a ton from this one particular video. Ultimately though, I finally subscribe and hit that bell, for the all too brief Alan Partridge meme, well done team, well done, it's the little details that count xx
Genuinely excellent list! Thought there’d be one or two dud entries but all were huge names who I remember fondly but have a tinge of controversy about them these days. Keep up the great work!
“Conor’s not some big cheater.”
*Locking toes in cage, kneeing to the head of grounded opponent, hooking fingers in opponent’s glove intensifies*
Most people don't really care about that I think
basically everyone locks their toes in the cage man... *facepalm*
By cheating he meant ped's
@@enzostagnaro9483 Everyone LEGIT everyone does it.
@Googlag Inmate #666 i think they use the fence because its kinda flexible and allows more movement and grappling when the fighters are up against it, being pushed on something hard and flat like plexiglass could make grappling more difficult
The constant PED violations explains Barnett running his own wrestling promotion. Ain't gotta get tested if you run the show.
who cares? as long as they compete against fellow dopers. its a fight anyway, so whiners dont have to play if they dont want to
0:15 Low key called Chiesa's mom his significant other
The beginning of the end for BJ Penn was after the first Edgar fight which was a close decision lost on judges score cards as champion and I think should be ranked higher than Anderson Silva
Silva was the most dominant Champion ever, even more dominant than Jones or GSP. Penn was a 2 division champ and still tied for most LW title defenses, but it's only 3.
Anderson won 14 straight in two divisions after winning the title, 10 officially as title defenses. But Penn never tested positive, so there is that as well. However Anderson still came back after the leg break and was at least competitive. Penn ended his career with losses to Dennis Siver, Ryan Hall and Clay Guida
Is there any list where Jon Jones isnt at the top??
He's pfp #1 at
Most arrests
Most stripped titles
Most cancelled events
Most eyepokes
Most illegal strikes
Most DUIs
Most wasted potential
Most lines snorted
Most HOF defeated
Most controversial decisions
Most title defenses
Most Press Conference bouts
Most Dana White calls unanswered
Most Main event venue switches
Most picograms
Dont forgot Most pregnant women crashed in to
Best comment I’ve seen all day 😂
@@joshuavanzuydam5044 that’s when he became dead to me
most pregnant women's arms broken.
most time spent inside, sorry underneath, the octagon.
most tweets sent during ex-opponents' fights.
most tweets sent during Adesanya fights.
most tweets deleted, tied with Conor.
AH YES TOMMY TOEHOLD AND THE SWEET TUNE OF ”DU DU DU DUN DU DU DUB DU DU DUN” YOU JUST HEARD VINTAGE MMA ON POINT
"A fighters significant other"
Shows Chiesa defending his mom. 😳
4:00 the gracies made the rules so they could take down people easy (no back or backhead punches allowed) and invited strikers that in the early days didnt know how to defend a takedown without elbows to the back and head.
its not cheating if you make the rules
Poor Ben :/ least people got to see how much of a good guy he is 🤷🏻♂️
Askren or Rosette ?
@@Head318Hunter Was thinking the same 😂
"I don't know what's getting deleted quicker, Conor's tweets or his legacy". 🔥🔥🔥😂
Getting less than 10 likes but still commenting 45 times takes dedication
@@RandyNachoManSandwich All what you Connies have right now is crying under the comments that get under your skins
@@TheEagleHasLanded bro u literally admitted ur Peter griffin's alt. Imagine switching to ur alt to try to respond to someone roasting ur ass 😭😭
You're making the Conor's simps crying under your comment, Good job Peter 😂
@@kinn1 I would rather be a Conor simp than create an alt to like my comments and respond to people attacking me
We all still love Ben Askren though, dude is too real.
Solid video thanks for making and uploading it for us man 🙏🏼
I never understood why people thought Ben would’ve been a tough match up for GSP. GSP would’ve embarrassed him.
I dont see how people thought Ben would be a tough competition for Jake Paul. Jake Paul isnt a good boxer, but Ben is just straight garbage.
@@LND209 peoples hate of jake clouded their judgement. I hate jake too but he clearly knows some boxing compared to Askrens 0 knowledge.
People thought Askrens wrestling was possibly "other worldly" as in extra terrestrial. Starting to make sense now ?
GSP ? 🛸👽
To be fair Askren was old and had a bad hip during his ufc run
@@glo3236 even before he came out of retirement he was still a one trick pony.
"Lack of real competition", somewhere Miesha Tate is crying since she lost to Ronda twice
I think miesha of today would beat rousey
@@SK-ix8jb anyone of today would beat Rousey, Tate is delusional thinking she can beat Amanda though after failing to finish a 40 something year old fighter on a losing streak on her way out
Miesha lacked the killer instinct. I legit thought she was gonna TKO Rousey in the 2nd fight. Stand up looked good vs Rouseys.
I never thought that held any weight. She beat the people that beat the people that beat her. Unless the argument is that all female fighters suck
@@zwergz1122 Except she did finish Reneau. It doesn't really matter, because 7 years ago she might be considered a well rounded fighter, but now that the sport has evolved, she's a master of nothing.
This is a great channel, Tommy is def my fav
0:16 "say bad stuff about a fighters significant other" shows chisea talking about his mom
don't ya ever talk about my fucking mom
Tommy Toehold yelling MMA facts thru my airpods = the highlight of my day.
Couldn’t think of anything better, full blast and the hearing loss is worth it 😁
That ben askren vs jake fight left me salty knowing what ben would do to him in a real fight
Jake has to hide behind Boxing's rule set. That needs to be brought to light MUCH MUCH MORE. He's hiding behind it with the "Boxing pays more" claim.
Boxing only pays more to it's very top 0.01% of competitors (Canelo, Floyd etc)
There's tons of lower tier Boxers working construction by day.
At least most of the 600-700 UFC fighters have ONE JOB and their families are comfortable at least in relation to 99% of Boxers.
@@Head318Hunter Preach!
@@Head318Hunter im sure boxers get a bigger revenue as a whole.
You're right about boxers having day jobs, but Also, many ufc ufc fighters have too.
I seriously doubt most ufc fighters make enough, it's the only major sport organisation where fighters constantly beg money from their fans.
@@yeshuasage3724 ben is old, he'd probably get clapped in a street fight
@@yeshuasage3724 you see what the get paided . The average ufc fighter makes way more then the average American does yearly in just one fight. The AVERAGE ufc fighter. Just because they beg for money doesn't mean then didnt start the year with 100k in saving. It doesn't mean they are bankrupt lol. It means they have expensive habits in their lives and they want handouts for that. Your acting like McDonald's workers make more money then fighters lol
Finger banging opponent's gloves,
Toes in the cage
Grabbing the shorts
Naw connor NEVER cheats!
we gotta really I mean REALLY really admire GSP
I won’t say Conner 0 tittle defenses.
I’ll say he has won 1 fight in 5 years.
Exactly 1 fight since the Obama Administration
Cody is going down the same path
He has only 3 wins over currently ranked fighters in any division and they were all over 5 years ago
conor is a two divisions champ
ran through featherweight division
broke aldo 10 year win streak
had one of the best performance in ufc against eddie
lost to the best lightweight of all time khabib
and lost to the 2nd best lightweight of all time dustin
and that ruined his legacy 😂
@Googlag Inmate #666 i never said that conor has the most impressive resume
and yes there are fighters with better resume
if not dustin who is the 2nd best lightweight
just look at the fighters dustin has faced
Do… Top 10 reasons to talk about Michael Chiesas mom.
Michael chiesas: and I took the personally
It’s insane Chanel sonnen probably used peds for most of his career and he still has probably the biggest fan base post career than any other retired mma fighters
@Larry Rothstein I don’t really get how that makes it that much better tbh so he told the truth about cheating and he still wasn’t good enough to be champ don’t get me wrong just like every other mma fan I think chael is the goat of trash talk and is funny af but I don’t get why fans worship him lol
You can add Tyrone Woodley now😂
“Then he got TKO’d by Jake Paul but I don’t want to talk about that” lmao
saw someone steal ur comment Rip
@KIXX thanks for noticing. Lawyers have been contacted.
@@adamawesome-o6776 im on your side of the lawsuit
Solid choice of ten, I'd imagine Ken Shamrock would be 11. At first I was surprised he didn't make the list at all but Brock, BJ and Barnett are far worse examples of the things Shamrock would be criticized for.
Luke Rockhold would be a honorable contender too : the dude was a beast in his prime, he was a BJJ expert, he had some of the most beautiful kicks, he's one of the few in history who won both UFC and Strikeforce gold... But he also has an enormous ego which lead him to his downfall (to the point some people forget he's actually 1-1 with Bisping).
@@Harakengard 💯 dude hasn't been the same since he left AKA
@@Harakengard He's also another case of wasted talent, dude could have reigned over Middleweight until Whittaker came along all the while producing exciting fights/finishes for the fans. Quite the disappointment, even if he only ever lost to killers (though the Bisping loss still stings).
Rockhold was a one and done champ. He had a great tko over a newly deflated, post USADA Weidman, and then got KO'd himself by a man with one eye. Had he bounced back after that loss and kept fighting and winning, we could ask what might have been, but let's be real, he never had the mental game to stay on top
Lmao “I don’t wanna talk about that, but I will make it the thumbnail”
I got to be honest, I think all the promotion leading Up to Ben's fight really made him look better. I am a casual person who has been brought to the sport more recently from all these expedition fights, and have so much respect for how these fighters handle themselfs and the skill it really takes to do some of this. Definitely have gained more respect for the sport after watching some more of it. But all I knew about Ben was some trash talk he had and videos of him annoying Dana. When I started to watch his interviews leading up to the Jake Paul fight, I saw someone who conducted themself with respect, was a family man, and all around a polite guy. I actually quite enjoyed the image he was portraying and was completely different then the narrative I was lead to believe. So all in all I know it sucks to have a loss to Jake, but I do really believe in my above statment, I think this fight actually did well to showcase his character and had more people backing him from the MMA side that had maybe disregarded him previously.
Fedor vs Barnett would have been a great fight around 2008/09.
Let's not cap when brock tested hot it didnt change anything. Nobody and I mean nobody thought THAT was legit.
I would've been surprised if he *didn't* test positive
Funniest thing about this is Ben repeatedly said how little losing to Jake would matter to him. He made the easiest massive paycheck of his life (imo for diving), he went back home happy and 500k+ richer. He left mma with a solid 19-2 record nothing takes away from that 😂
Never though I would see a Garfield analogy on a mma list but you pulled off tommy
YES! TOMMY! The real MMA on Point!
Jon Jones is just so good in the cage but he’s worst enemy is himself
His*
@@HysjMysj neek
@@rm.0233 🤣 British slang on an American video.
His one loss is symbolic of that
@Googlag Inmate #666 too true he’s danger personified in and out the cage
The fact people dont think Brock could have been on steroids in high school lmao
Love binge watching theses videos
YES THE OLD INTRO MUSIC
Don’t see how the Askren knockout is a huge deal. He was massively undersized and isn’t a good striker, going against a guy who has been training boxing for awhile. He was never going to win, it was a pay day.
Hes a fighter that lost to a Disney kid and TH-camr who fights as a hobby.
@@tmerchead1 I don’t like the Paul assclown, but to say he fights as a hobby is simply rewriting the truth. He’s been training for years as a boxer now, and Askren has always had below average stand up. Hell, even Woodley doesn’t have a good boxing pedigree.
Me: builds a flying car
F.A.A: THATS FUCKING ILLEGAL!
Damnit, if BJ spent half the time in the gym as he spent at the bar he would’ve gone down as the undisputed GOAT.
Maybe at lightweight
@@AmHotGarbage He still has a good argument for it if we’re just talking about who did the best in their primes tbh. Not only does he have the same amount of title defenses, they were all just as dominant, if not more, than Khabibs. He was also considered the #1 lightweight in the world by virtually everybody for years before he even won the title, and unlike Khabib he actually moved up to welterweight and even won the belt there against a prime Matt Hughes, one of the top 3-4 greatest Welterweights of all time.
@@verscarii3238 I’m saying he’s the goat of lightweight. Not a fan of khabibs fluffed stats
@@AmHotGarbage you're seriously saying bj penn had a better career than khabib
@@skad2485 I’m saying he had a better run. More notable wins. 3 weight classes. 2 belts. Fought the greats. Beat generational talent.
🐐mma channel
Yes
I’ll like to that
Bisping last statement about Conor inspired this video lol 😂
He said he was making the video before Conor posted about Khabibs dad….
I feel like it's easier to forgive aging fighters for the ped use because they're aging. That's gotta play with your mind. Also the peds might have been used to give them back some of the aggression and explosiveness they had when they were younger. Especially when you consider an elite fighters mantality, the level of younger constantly improving competition, the culture of the sport and it's competitors, etc. Just my opinion is all.
When your signature lightweight win of your career is Eddie Alvarez, i think its safe to say your a pretty average lightweight
the Gracie family also got into politic talk last election here in Brasil. a shitstorm was made in the RJ jiu-jitsu association because of this, the family name and their gyms were marked since some of the family members openly sided and even campaigned for the actual president
I wouldn't mess with the Gracie's even if you paid me. They could probably break every bone in my body without breaking a sweat.
The Covid jab against Khabibs Father ended me being even a little but of a McGregor fan. Khabibs dad was a good man and that family has alot of respect in wrestling and MMA. I'm appalled McGregor would say that and I'll never buy his PPV again.
What's he gonna do without Mark in his corner frfr 🤯
Gonna need an updated version soon boys
We're gonna need an updated list with the recent Woodley embarrassing knock out
It might just be me but Lesnar failing a drug test after returning from a several year layoff and having never failed a test before doesn’t tarnish a legacy that includes him going out there and fighting while dying of diverticulitis
You could do a thousand things perfect & one thing wrong.
They'll always focus on that one wrong thing.
Can we please stop referring to Jon Jones as "possibly the greatest of all time etc."?
GSP = 🐐
your goat
Thank you for bringing back the old background music
I just found out one the guys from MMA On Point created I Am Sophie and im blown away! Never could have imagined that.
This is why my respect for GSP and Khabib is very high, in this sport keeping a clean legacy is near impossible. DC and Nick Diaz also worthy of their legacies even with the loses.
DC has only lost to 2 people, the greatest fighter of all time, and the greatest heavyweight of all time. No shame
@@reservoirfrogs2177 what rubs people the wrong way about DC is his demeanor when he loses. he cant seem to control his "feelings"
@@paulocuento9949 lol easy to say some dumb shit like that when your not the person losing a world title fight, of course people would get emotional.
@@Ijbvfknnn lol did i hurt your feelings too? of course it hurts for dc, but it doesnt deny the fact that cormier couldnt control his emotions to maintain a level of composure of a professional sportsman.. DC wasnt the first champ to lose his title.
Even GSP and Khabib, don't have completely clean legacies
Man watching this video as an MMA Fighter makes me realize how quick it all can change for the worst and honestly makes me kind of not care about making fans happy.
The og music... Jones with the most tarnished legacy...
Just perfection!
Love how the old music is back
Damn GSP and Khabib are the only goats with perfect legacies (DJ too if he wasn’t so unpopular for some reason)
Getting the UFOs pounded into your head by Serra tarnishes it a bit, but I love GSP
DJ getting finished by Adriano Moraes in One FC does suck though, and chances are Moraes will have his number which will be a sticking point for DJ's critics.
Cause he's short that's why he's unpopular let's just face it
@@jangobango2847 he redeemed that loss
@@madgavin7568 that knee hurt to watch
I feel like silvas legacy was recovered by winning against a former boxing champ in a boxing fight
Hes gonna get more love when he kos tito
Anderson deserves more love for clowning on a much younger former boxing champ
That event has been the best of these "carny" or "niche" PPVs outside of the Tyson one that started this trend.
I wouldn't say it was recovered because the failed drug tests, weak excuses for failing those tests and consecutive losses to guys he would have beaten in his prime (exceptions being Weidman and DC) will never be erased. But the boxing fight did give us a nostalgic performance of The Spider, and reminded us just how much of a legend he is.
You really gassed Rousey comparing her to Tyson 🤣🤣
Everyone forgets that all of TJ’s samples were retested after the Cejudo fight for EPO bc it’s not tested in every fight and they found nothing. I just maintain that Cody and Faber are super salty
This video helps paint the following picture: Everyone on your “Mount Rushmore of MMA” have asterisks beside their names. All of them. Except….
GSP
GSP, Demetrious, and Khabib are the controversy-free goats imo
GSP had that decision against Hendricks he never ran back. Also beat a one-eyed, end-of-the road Bisping and then vacated despite there being an interim champion in line. Honestly, he's lucky Whittaker was respectful enough to let that vacation go through without drama, knowing how gullible the fans are.
@@joshuahettinger9287 I agree with this
McGregor is not a cheater - fight with Khabib: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
@Mike C here's a hypothetical - say Khabib was a known steroid user and a cheater inside the cage with frequent low blows, shorts and glove grabs, eye pokes and other dirty behavior. Would that excuse the same kind of cheating from say Stipe or Moreno? I am guessing the answer is no. So why would it excuse Conor's? We are not talking about Khabib. We are talking about a specific sentence about Conor and Conor is by all accounts cheating in fights. No crying, just an accurate analysis.
@Mike C that's a stupid reply my guy. Even if it was true, which it isn't, Khabib has nothing to do with Conor's actions.
@Mike C Your boyfriend conor should stick to beating old men these days
@@iejejduc8379 are you aware of the khabib fan base? They all see khabib as their boyfriend
Yes! The best intro music in TH-cam is back!
Brocks a tough one. I feel like his match on Marc Hunt is not shocking. He looks like the Villian he plays as and that's what built him up from the start. Almost makes Brock more Brock if that's even possible lol.
Honestly, with how poor Mcgregor's record has generally been since stepping up in competition, I don't think history will look back fondly on his career.
Aldo, Alvarez, Mendez,Diaz?
@@AmHotGarbage Aldo and Alvarez are solid enough wins. Regardless of what point of their careers they were in, they were still good champs at the time. However, they're pretty much his only solid wins.
Mendez was a short notice replacement whose career was beginning to fade at that point.
And Diaz... come on. He's a great guy, but there's a reason he's never won a world title (or even a made-up title for that matter) for someone who has had as many fights as he had.
@@AmHotGarbage diaz won the second fight and he beat Mendez on short notice and wouldn’t rematch Aldo 🤷🏻♂️conor can’t compete against elite 155/170 pounders
@@tottenham2294 he didn’t want to drop to 45, I don’t blame him really. Eddie didn’t deserve a rematch. No Diaz did not. Rewatch it. You haven’t really given anything but speculation
Conor's legacy was cemented when he beat Aldo & Alvarez becoming the first Champ Champ. Not to mention all the beasts he smashed at 145 on his way up. He just failed to significantly add on to it thereafter.
All the losses and negative attention that has happened since then is unfortunate, but it can't tarnish his achievements. Like, Pete Rose doesn't stop being the most successful hitter of all time just because he gambled and cheated as a manager later on.
I’m starting to realize MMA careers are like drug dealing… you need to make your money and get out while your on top ! LoL
Ben, Conor, Woodley, Silva, the list goes on… all were hugely kings of their sector of the sport… and they all fell !
So you prefer they never step up in competition and run cowardly like kabob?
The best BJ Penn fight I’ve ever seen was a replay on Spike of him vs Matt Hughes when he won the welterweight championship. Throughout high school he was damn near the best fighter on the roster in my eyes so it really sucks to see him fall off like that but I still got love for the prodigy🤙🏽🤙🏽
As a Funky Fan, I know I know 😞, but thank you so much for skipping over the Paul fight lolol