Yeah, that was for sure the worst for the fighters pay overall. Really makes fighters trapped and relying entirely on there contract to pay them for fighting. For how much the sport has grown its sad to see the pay has gotten worse overtime. Sure some of the top end fighters make more now, but for the majority it is worse.
@@AnimeMemesz it has, the big draws did not get affect as much, but the lower guys who didn’t get much publicity relied on sponsorships on the shorts, and on the tarps and etc., so it fucked them over the most, the entry-level guys
@@caspercasper5413 True but that would mean Dan ‘50K’ Ige would have to change his nickname,and the ufc certainly doesn’t want that.I think that is probably the excuse Dana White would make.
@@benwolf2929 lol you can pay all you want, ultimately until dana decides that fighters deserve more he aint giving more. Ppv gonna rise up to 100€ and fighters still will be underpaid
I miss the sit-down face to face interviews during fight week. Gave me old school HBO vibes. Dom & TJ episode will always be immortal. Dom: "can't be done talking to me, you're facing me, dummy" 😂😂
@@tahajbara2024 fighters get a belt when they first win, and they add a gem to it on each defense. If the other guy wins, they give it back to the former champ after the fight, and Dana orders the new champ a new belt
@@namwarmaster6918 the old belt was much better looking than any other belt in the world... And also much better looking than the current belt... The current belt has been thoughtfully designed in multiple aspects and I appreciate that, but still in terms of look and regality the old belt is much better than the new one. The old belt truly looked like a champion's belt...
The change I hate the most is that it went from being primarily focused on seeing who is the best fighter/style to being mainly about what fights will sell the most tickets. It is no longer who is the best of the best but rather who is the best for the boss.
Thats a world controversy thing If you let one do it then you gotta let everyone do it But with current events happening these days theres a huge risk of that being problematic, especially considering a decent sized population of fighters come from said controversial country
@@brandoncufr201 why don't you have this same energy for American fighters since the us is currently occupying Syria, yemen, Iraq, and on and on and on? Nice virtue signal though, if you actually cared you wouldn't want American fighters fighting either.
@@shrumgus5608 I actually hadn't ever considered that, that makes sense. Still, I fee like a lot of companies wouldn't care. I'm sure Modelo didn't care for example. Idk, but $80 per fight plus ESPN+ is definitely not worth it
maybe hyperbolic, but Anik has created the most memorable sporting moments for me, alongside Martin Tyler and Peter Drury in football, and Mike Breen in basketball. His 'NO WAY' at Leon's headkick is right up there with 'BLOCKED BY JAMES' as two moments I'll remember forever.
A bit hyperbolic, yes. But I think his "Modell-oooo" call for Masvidal-Askren is right up there and his "and of all the superlatives" call just before Usman knocked out Masvidal, and should be higher than the generic "Leon is not cut from that cloth" line. Unfortunately, recency bias may render these forgotten going forward...
the gladiator and face the pain! i used to listen to it every morning, i used to go swim for 5km every day, and had this speedo waterproof mp3 player! would start it with those 2 songs every day! bring back the gladiator and face the PAIN!
#1 was absolutely something I hated the most. The iceman shorts, Tito flames, Rich Franklins pink and brown, Anderson black and yellow, the list goes on. But on top of that, it was cool seeing big brands on fighter shorts like Nike, and Burger King. Then the brands that grew with the sport like tapout, xyience, venum, hayabusa, and even the weird ones like condom depot on fighter shorts. But the ufc can have every one of those brands and corn nuts on the canvas or popping up in the "locker room cam" because it lines their pockets more. GREEDY
Getting rid of face the pain was the worst one for me, it makes me sad knowing I’ll never get that exact rush of it playing during the title sequence again, especially the fighter dramatically looking into the camera followed by a hard zoom into the face as the song and intro ends. I’m getting goosebumps just thinking about it
As someone who got into MMA while being a massive wrestling fan, I miss the big ass stages with lights and pyro and all that. Yeah, clearly not everyone cares about having some extra pageantry like Chuck at UFC 43. But some fighters clearly do and I’d love to see them have a bigger stage to come up with some memorable shit. Genki Sudo forever.
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@@Dhdfhdhfbfgsgdgshdjcccdgdhdhhd I basically quit watching the UFC, because the sport has been ruined by the scales in my opinion. Eight men's divisions and four female divisions is too many. The sport is so watered down that it is ridiculous. I only want two men's divisions and no girls. 205 and under and 205 and over, like Pride FC used to be. So then the small fighters are like Adesanya, Romero, and Whitaker.
@@michaellovullo7363then the fighters who weight 125-155 on the scale would get screwed over and would fight guys constantly bigger. That is a horrible idea.
@@darkervoid1905 I can't stand watching anything under 185 pounds. It is like Tank Abbott said about Conor McGregor "I would have beaten him up when I was in high school" and Tank had few skills and was basically just a bar room brawler. The fact that fighters cut 30 pounds in weight to compete in divisions that they weigh more than twenty pounds than the weight limit on fight night is ridiculous in my mind. The UFC caters to a WWE wrestling style fan base and it sucks to me. The first UFC that I watched was UFC 2. I went to UFC 7 and went to 14 UFC's between UFC 30 to UFC 60. I like watching grown men fight. Watching girls fight is like men's figure skating to me. The UFC sucks and I have lost interest in MMA since the UFC bought Pride FC.
I used to buy the ppvs because I liked supporting the fighters. I didn't mind paying 60 or 65 bucks when I became a fan in 2020. But the price increases have been ridiculous. I just stream them now because of that. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either. Try lowering the price and I think you'd be surprised how many more buys you'd get.
To tie in with getting rid of face the pain, I think a lot of that generally ties into the change in the UFC’s business model which seems to have turned off a fair chunk of OG fans. What a lot of fans seemed to like back in the day was that UFC/MMA had a real counter culture vibe about it. Where boxing had become all about money fights, cherry picking opponents and a litany of questionable decisions, UFC and MMA fighters were gladiators. The bear wanted to fight the best and it didn’t feel so money oriented. These guys weren’t just prize fighters, they were martial artists. The fact that it had risen so quickly especially after all the shit they got in the beginning and fighting to be recognised as a legit sport, I think resonated with a lot of fans of punk and metal because these genres got similar shit too. But since MMA has become more mainstream, it feels like a lot of earlier quirks have been discarded by UFC as well in an attempt to appeal more to the masses. But also a lot more of the problems that plague modern boxing have started spilling over to the UFC as well. There’s been so much more talk of money fights that never was before. Guys cutting in line for title shots over higher ranked guys because that’s what’ll sell, McGregor being allowed to hold the belt hostage for well over a year. Dana White who once upon a time while clearly still a dick, at least stuck to his guns now flip flops on so much shit based on whether it would sacrifice his money-making ability. When money plays too much of a role the sport suffers.
I see your point but I disagree. Old ufc as fun as it was has really not aged all that well, and many of the og fighters were more mental fighters than they were actual athletes. Now that the sport has garnered the attention in the umbrella of athleticism we have overall objectively better fighters, and with that the reality is that often times you don't havs to be a hardass meatball stereotype to kickass. Old ufc to me was more rap rock or nu-metal than it was punk honestly.
I think they could definitely have improved the old belt, the flags were a nice touch. It was just changing them so drastically and I don't like the new ones either.
One of the ones I’m sad to see go, but totally understand why they got rid of it. Got to consider how the fighters feel about things too and it was an awful system for them.
Bisping vs Rockhold 2 aftermath was the straw that broke the camels back for that. Bisping BURIED Rockhold in the post-fight presser and it was a bad look all around when you had a sore loser and a gloating winner still talking trash after the fight.
In all fairness the guy literally somehow got a hold of the fact that Brock Lesnar was coming back for the first time in 5 years, which I can imagine would have probably only been known by the top brass of the company, and leaked it before they announced it at UFC 199. So you can kinda see why Dana was pissed. If memory serves me I think Dana also got him banned from the press coverage of MayMac, which was only the year after.
1) the Reebok deal and loss of sponsorships 2) changing to the Legacy Championship in 2018 from the UFC version of The Big Gold Belt (I swear I didn't skip ahead naming these they were completely coincidental)
Ik the apex was built to hold fight cards without the COVID restrictions being broken by inviting a crowd of fans to watch, but it amazes me that Dana didn't have it built to eventually hold fans when the restrictions were lifted, or that he hasn't already started construction for it to hold fans since they could turn it into the perfect arena for the UFC and make millions from it
It wasnt built to holds cards during covid, it happened to be near completion as they entered lock down, it is built to hold a small crowd and be used for shows like TUF, other promotions on fight pass, and small crowd ufc events. It is not intended to be an arena and having it big enough to be would be a waste of resources
its small, you can only fit a couple hundred at most. also kind of a high security area because it's still part of the PI. a lot of the fighters like the apex because they can hear their coaching better. i dont mind them honestly but i hate how the cards have gotten weaker
Yeah, there was that fairly recent even that was a bit bigger than the Apex, had a bit of a crowd there. That I liked (although the walk ways were a little too narrow for the fighters and security IMO). I'd rather something that.
The belts were releathered replicas, they cost like less than a grand to produce. Hell you yourself could buy a replica and have it releathered for less than a grand so every belt they made was chump change prices
@@acridmushroom cool line may be fresh in everyone’s mind right now but it wont be remembered the same way and it’s exclusive to one specific moment and can’t be used the same way as “ here we go”
What I really miss all the Fight Pass exclusive cards not that fight pass isn't worth only nowadays but back then it kind of made the incentive to do so that much sweeter when they added the exclusive cards
They should do grappling only events at the Apex. It's a paycheck, it promotes fighters, lower risk for fighters since they aren't taking strikes to the face, they don't have to prepare as vigorously, and fighters wouldn't be putting their record or rank on the line. Fury Pro Grappling 6 was fun.
I like the fighter kits, BUT they should be allowed to put sponsors on their shorts. Make them limited so it doesn't get too out of hand. The uniform look does look cleaner, but there has to be give and take on these fight kits.
I hate how dirty the UFC did Goldie, but Jon Anik has quickly become my favorite commentator. Dude's such a pro, you can tell he truly loves the sport, really cares about doing his job well, and puts in his best effort every event. And every now and again he'll say some insane shit about custody battles or laugh like Mickey Mouse, and it's great.
Anik was the perfect replacement for Goldie who by his later years had become very repetitive and stale with his fight starting and ending calls. I do agree that Goldie was done dirty and he deserves a an induction into the Contributor Wing of the UFC HOF.
@@lupe103344522 Yeup! I’ve been to UFC 232, UFC 245, UFC 270, UFC 272, and a couple of fight nights recently and they all have done the Face the Pain intros it’s epic seeing it on the big screen
What a eye opener to how different things are now . The days of the Tito chuck rivalry are my favorite and the original ultimate fighter first few seasons idk the spike era . Big gold belt check , face the pain check, mike Goldberg check, personally check!
The old belt wasn't worth $300,000. The price to make it was about $2,000 to 16,000 tops, the priciest to make was supposedly the 'BMF' belt, per Dana White - $50,000. The legacy belt or the new one, is three times more expensive to make than the old one. The first google search result isn't always the best one ;)
It's a way more special treat when you go and watch a LIVE UFC event because they actually still do the full-blown Face the Pain intros for the live crowds, even for the Fight Night cards---though they're no longer on the televised broadcasts at home.
My gawd you don’t know or maybe you do. How much of a nostalgia trip is the gladiator face the pain intro! Loved it just as much as hearing ITS TIME!!!
I LOVE apex cards, hearing all the strikes land, and the corners yelling instructions is always such a treat. Some crowds(not many, but some) just ruin events for me.
I loved when dana rolled out a literal box of cash for some youtubers who were already quite wealthy. While simultaneously paying his fights bread crumbs
All that stuff w/ Goldie wouldn't have happened if The UFC was transparent and had alittle bit of a send off tribute for him, like a little clip montage or something like that. I like Anik and in a lot of ways he is way better than Goldie but I still miss him.
UFC flushed him down the toilet, it's a shame. Love or hate Goldie, the guy put in the work and earned a good send off and place in the UFC hall of fame
I have to admit, I miss face the pain, it must be nostalgia taking over. As far as the belts go, the old belts are far superior, but still not nearly as cool at the Pride belts.
I still miss mike goldberg. He was a goof but he stood out and there's nothing better than the moments where Joe corrected him. Who knows how many amazing exchanges we missed between them that could have been
People say the old belt looks like a WWE belt but to me the new one does even more. I honestly don't think there's a problem with them looking like pro wrestling belts anyway.
Undisputed 3 is the goat. Fighters felt so unique because you could individually go in and change the move sets for a created fighter. If you wanted to really focus on certain strikes you could, you could give a better personality in my opinion
Tournaments in sports truly are the best, especially when a title (or something equivalent) is on the line and not just bragging rights. That's why WWE's King & Queen of the Ring is so popular too this day, despite it being held in Saudi Arabia instead of literally anywhere else. Also Impact Wrestling had an awesome mashup tournament in 2019 that may not fit the UFC but could fit the EFC.
The price increase isn't from people watching free. It's more to do with greed and the bloat of not fit for purpose hires that comes with a company growing as quickly and as profitable as UFC did.
There is a site where you can watch it 1080p, and every fight comes 1-1:30h after it had happened , not enough time to get spoiled because mostly everybody is sleeping (the main card starts usualy around 4am where I live and the fight of the night is usually around 7) so what that meens is not only does it not make sence to pay for it if youre living in this region, but by relying on this site what saves the fights as well and categories them (by date and organization of happening) Im actually forced to get a good nights sleep and watch the whole thing first time in the morning. You just cant say no to that unless your career depends on it like yours making this awesome content for us. That being said, sorry Tommy hope you hate us a bit less with this apology 😅 amazing video like always!!!
I miss mid week events and how there would regular breaks between fight cards, made the events mean a bit more. The current UFC schedule is just like prime WWF, near on every week with out fail, touring the world putting on monthly PPV's. Tournaments/Grand Prix would be good for divisions with dominant champs, especially if that champ is trying to take another belt.
Did I hear you say the old belts cost $300k each? I find that hard to believe as many of the belts we saw on TV were replicas re-leathered by Paul Martin (from the clip used in this video). I doubt Dana is even close on this figure. Great video though!
I actually quite like the look of the new belt. And the idea of adding gems for every defense making your belt even more unique is better than just getting a new Normal one every time. The old belt just looked old and out dated although I’ll admit, pretty iconic
I don't really get it's "outdated" the only reason you could realistically say that is because it's no longer current. Of course something like aesthetic is a subjective statement. Vut i definitely think the new belt is super hideous looking. That "sleek" look is honestly just bland and boring. Like people who do their whole house in white or grey
Love the new belt and the uniform idea. Hate the fighters lost a lot of money, but it made the sport look more professional and legit by going the uniform route. 300K per belt is ridiculous!!!! One belt idea was really needed!!!
I really was not a fan of the new belt at first. However, something about seeing the adesanya vs gastelum fight made it feel more okay. That fight was insane and it showed just how much the sport had evolved. You had en elite striker like izzy throwing up triangles to create scrambles from the bottom and the iconic “im prepared to die” - the sport had clearly evolved and I was more okay with the belt evolving too
@@pluto5618 nah, each to their own, i like hearing what the coaches yell. Most of the time that´s more interesting than the commentary as I can see what´s happening.
I kinda prefer the look of trunks without a bunch of sponsors on it but it irritates the hell outta me that the fighters can’t have sponsors but they can fight inside a chain link nascar jacket while ads are read by the commentary team between rounds and sometimes during the fights.
This list is spot on. You really nailed all the big gripes. I personally can't stand that "AHHHHH DUM DUM AHHHHHH DUM DUM AHHHHHH" theme they use when previewing other cards and in between fights. Genuinely the worst shit ever. The intros with fighters getting a chance to cut a promo before going into the highlights with "Face The Pain" as the gladiator walks to the light was IT. If you could bottle that up, it'd be the best drug on the planet.
the change i hated the most was the reebok/eliminating any other sponsor deal, that fucked the fighters over so bad that it was damn near criminal
Agreed. Let the fighters get sponsors/money.
Yeah, that was for sure the worst for the fighters pay overall. Really makes fighters trapped and relying entirely on there contract to pay them for fighting. For how much the sport has grown its sad to see the pay has gotten worse overtime. Sure some of the top end fighters make more now, but for the majority it is worse.
Unless it's Monster
@@AnimeMemesz it has, the big draws did not get affect as much, but the lower guys who didn’t get much publicity relied on sponsorships on the shorts, and on the tarps and etc., so it fucked them over the most, the entry-level guys
Dana and co said they were cleaning up the sport etc, meanwhile they plaster advertising on every square inch of the cage and broadcast
Why is the bonus pay still the same. Conor was calling for 60gs after the brimmage fight and that was damn near 10 years ago
Should at least bump it up to 65k
@@caspercasper5413 True but that would mean Dan ‘50K’ Ige would have to change his nickname,and the ufc certainly doesn’t want that.I think that is probably the excuse Dana White would make.
why do you think dana white would do anything for the fighters? or the fans?
The PPV price increases are my all-time hated moments.
just dont pay for it LMFAO FU Dana
They aren’t worth buying and even if you get a stacked card they usually end anti climatically
That’s such a double edge sword if you believe the fighters should be paid more and have benefits.
Most id ever pay for a fight night is $40 and thats if the card is super stacked
@@benwolf2929 lol you can pay all you want, ultimately until dana decides that fighters deserve more he aint giving more. Ppv gonna rise up to 100€ and fighters still will be underpaid
I miss the sit-down face to face interviews during fight week. Gave me old school HBO vibes. Dom & TJ episode will always be immortal.
Dom: "can't be done talking to me, you're facing me, dummy" 😂😂
Yes! Love the “gloves are off” series in Boxing.
@@Brass_Bass lol disrespectful but funny. That was video though. Would've been chaotic if it was face to face
I could care less about that dumb shit. Dom got the dogshit beat out him so all that shit talking made him look like a clown
Can't forget.
DC: I'm ready to die to beat you.
JBJ: be prepared to do that.
Fucking chills
They did this recently with Cruz and Chito
I love the old belt and the fact that you get one for every defence.
So now do the fighters at least keep one belt? And which belt is Dana putting on the new champion?
@@tahajbara2024 fighters get a belt when they first win, and they add a gem to it on each defense. If the other guy wins, they give it back to the former champ after the fight, and Dana orders the new champ a new belt
the old belt was just a ripoff of the old WWE heavyweight belt. At least the new one's thoughtfully designed
@@namwarmaster6918 the old belt was much better looking than any other belt in the world... And also much better looking than the current belt...
The current belt has been thoughtfully designed in multiple aspects and I appreciate that, but still in terms of look and regality the old belt is much better than the new one. The old belt truly looked like a champion's belt...
@Andrew Vazquez true, the UFC belt design didn't need to be changed... It was beautiful...
The change I hate the most is that it went from being primarily focused on seeing who is the best fighter/style to being mainly about what fights will sell the most tickets. It is no longer who is the best of the best but rather who is the best for the boss.
Thank you....exactly what I was going to say
Only reason why belal Muhammed hasn't gotten a title shot yet
Conor really did change the game back in early 2013 since that was the end of the silent martial artists era. GSP retired, Silva was dethroned.
I hate that they don’t let fighters walk out with their flags anymore
Thats a world controversy thing
If you let one do it then you gotta let everyone do it
But with current events happening these days theres a huge risk of that being problematic, especially considering a decent sized population of fighters come from said controversial country
This is a good one! I miss the flags. Russia should just be happy we let them fight and not complain they can’t have their flag.
Blame it on Putin and his minions
Merabs idea was genius he tattood the flag of Georgia on his peck
@@brandoncufr201 why don't you have this same energy for American fighters since the us is currently occupying Syria, yemen, Iraq, and on and on and on? Nice virtue signal though, if you actually cared you wouldn't want American fighters fighting either.
“White guy gusmao, black guy Jones”
“That was said by Joe Rohan”
-Goldy
Legendary moment
Can we get a deep dive into the James Krause situation, and maybe a follow up on alleged fixed fights in mma
no updates. Krause fucked up and is awaiting to be sentenced.
If you wanna check out, MMAI made an excellent video about the situation
no
Someone else already did a that
Look up “UFC has a gambling problem”.
The price increase truly grinds my gears. $87 for a possible hit or miss card is outrageous.
They need to remove the paywall fr and just run ads
@@antuanperez426too many violent offenders and slurs thrown around for ads and stockholders
@@shrumgus5608 I actually hadn't ever considered that, that makes sense. Still, I fee like a lot of companies wouldn't care. I'm sure Modelo didn't care for example. Idk, but $80 per fight plus ESPN+ is definitely not worth it
Only people who are going to pay are butt light or the ADL
maybe hyperbolic, but Anik has created the most memorable sporting moments for me, alongside Martin Tyler and Peter Drury in football, and Mike Breen in basketball. His 'NO WAY' at Leon's headkick is right up there with 'BLOCKED BY JAMES' as two moments I'll remember forever.
A bit hyperbolic, yes. But I think his "Modell-oooo" call for Masvidal-Askren is right up there and his "and of all the superlatives" call just before Usman knocked out Masvidal, and should be higher than the generic "Leon is not cut from that cloth" line. Unfortunately, recency bias may render these forgotten going forward...
Every time I hear or Read the name Martin Tyler my brain immediately goes …. AGUERRRROOOOOOOOO
@@jaymebarbosa9353 If I am being honest, I am still not over the back-end of that season, especially the head-to-head loss at City. I need help...
@@siliziwencanywa1138”and of all the superlatives- OHHHHH, KAMARU USMAN WITH A HUGE SHOT! STILL UNDISPUTED”
@@don-eladio Lol! I really love that moment, Brother, and wish people appreciated it more...
Face the pain got you ,hyped for the ppv. It added so much energy it made them feel way more epic than they may have actually been.
the gladiator and face the pain! i used to listen to it every morning, i used to go swim for 5km every day, and had this speedo waterproof mp3 player! would start it with those 2 songs every day! bring back the gladiator and face the PAIN!
#1 was absolutely something I hated the most. The iceman shorts, Tito flames, Rich Franklins pink and brown, Anderson black and yellow, the list goes on. But on top of that, it was cool seeing big brands on fighter shorts like Nike, and Burger King. Then the brands that grew with the sport like tapout, xyience, venum, hayabusa, and even the weird ones like condom depot on fighter shorts. But the ufc can have every one of those brands and corn nuts on the canvas or popping up in the "locker room cam" because it lines their pockets more. GREEDY
Can't even wear a speedo! Lol
Getting rid of face the pain was the worst one for me, it makes me sad knowing I’ll never get that exact rush of it playing during the title sequence again, especially the fighter dramatically looking into the camera followed by a hard zoom into the face as the song and intro ends. I’m getting goosebumps just thinking about it
Just that little laugh sound bite from Jon Anik made me crack up. You guys never stop with the best mma content.
This is the comment I was looking for 😂 so funny!
Jon Anik has the best transgender otherly-abled Jewish laugh
its from guru
As someone who got into MMA while being a massive wrestling fan, I miss the big ass stages with lights and pyro and all that. Yeah, clearly not everyone cares about having some extra pageantry like Chuck at UFC 43. But some fighters clearly do and I’d love to see them have a bigger stage to come up with some memorable shit.
Genki Sudo forever.
WE ARE ALL ONE 🌎♥️
@@superdude9856 nope
Top 10
Cinderella stories
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What we look forward to for ufc 300
Heavy on the ungrateful fans they don’t deserve to be fans
@@Dhdfhdhfbfgsgdgshdjcccdgdhdhhd I basically quit watching the UFC, because the sport has been ruined by the scales in my opinion. Eight men's divisions and four female divisions is too many. The sport is so watered down that it is ridiculous. I only want two men's divisions and no girls. 205 and under and 205 and over, like Pride FC used to be. So then the small fighters are like Adesanya, Romero, and Whitaker.
@@michaellovullo7363then the fighters who weight 125-155 on the scale would get screwed over and would fight guys constantly bigger. That is a horrible idea.
@@darkervoid1905 I can't stand watching anything under 185 pounds. It is like Tank Abbott said about Conor McGregor "I would have beaten him up when I was in high school" and Tank had few skills and was basically just a bar room brawler. The fact that fighters cut 30 pounds in weight to compete in divisions that they weigh more than twenty pounds than the weight limit on fight night is ridiculous in my mind. The UFC caters to a WWE wrestling style fan base and it sucks to me. The first UFC that I watched was UFC 2. I went to UFC 7 and went to 14 UFC's between UFC 30 to UFC 60. I like watching grown men fight. Watching girls fight is like men's figure skating to me. The UFC sucks and I have lost interest in MMA since the UFC bought Pride FC.
@@michaellovullo7363 cool story so why you here then
The no flags rule really grinds my gears.
I used to buy the ppvs because I liked supporting the fighters. I didn't mind paying 60 or 65 bucks when I became a fan in 2020. But the price increases have been ridiculous. I just stream them now because of that. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either. Try lowering the price and I think you'd be surprised how many more buys you'd get.
The box tix alone pays for the fighters.
Imagine actually paying to watch a UFC fight online. Congrats - you’re a restaurant.
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Drink Up Me Hearties, Yo Ho!
Exactly everything above 60 bucks is ridiculous
To tie in with getting rid of face the pain, I think a lot of that generally ties into the change in the UFC’s business model which seems to have turned off a fair chunk of OG fans. What a lot of fans seemed to like back in the day was that UFC/MMA had a real counter culture vibe about it. Where boxing had become all about money fights, cherry picking opponents and a litany of questionable decisions, UFC and MMA fighters were gladiators. The bear wanted to fight the best and it didn’t feel so money oriented. These guys weren’t just prize fighters, they were martial artists. The fact that it had risen so quickly especially after all the shit they got in the beginning and fighting to be recognised as a legit sport, I think resonated with a lot of fans of punk and metal because these genres got similar shit too. But since MMA has become more mainstream, it feels like a lot of earlier quirks have been discarded by UFC as well in an attempt to appeal more to the masses. But also a lot more of the problems that plague modern boxing have started spilling over to the UFC as well. There’s been so much more talk of money fights that never was before. Guys cutting in line for title shots over higher ranked guys because that’s what’ll sell, McGregor being allowed to hold the belt hostage for well over a year. Dana White who once upon a time while clearly still a dick, at least stuck to his guns now flip flops on so much shit based on whether it would sacrifice his money-making ability. When money plays too much of a role the sport suffers.
I see your point but I disagree. Old ufc as fun as it was has really not aged all that well, and many of the og fighters were more mental fighters than they were actual athletes. Now that the sport has garnered the attention in the umbrella of athleticism we have overall objectively better fighters, and with that the reality is that often times you don't havs to be a hardass meatball stereotype to kickass. Old ufc to me was more rap rock or nu-metal than it was punk honestly.
It’s crazy how Undisputed is still better than all 4 entries in the UFC EA era
It simply isnt though lol the actual gameplay is far worse than EA 4 or 3.
mmmmm ufc 2 has something to say about that
We get it bro, you’re different
Ya ever since they stopped the ufc 2 online ufc games are dead to me
@@TheKoog97 um…no it’s not. The gameplay in 3 and 4 are terrible
I got used to the new belt but it's not okay, the old one was literally 10 times better. It sucks so much that we don't have it anymore
The old one looks worse imo
@@bornmenu turns out opinions can be wrong
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 you are living proof
@@blessedboxer3449 nah he right tho the old better looks better
I think they could definitely have improved the old belt, the flags were a nice touch. It was just changing them so drastically and I don't like the new ones either.
The thing I hate most is by FARRRR that the UFC stopped doing the collective post-fight press conferences. Those were amazing.
I doubt the fighters were a fan lmao
One of the ones I’m sad to see go, but totally understand why they got rid of it. Got to consider how the fighters feel about things too and it was an awful system for them.
Bisping vs Rockhold 2 aftermath was the straw that broke the camels back for that. Bisping BURIED Rockhold in the post-fight presser and it was a bad look all around when you had a sore loser and a gloating winner still talking trash after the fight.
The Gladiator/Face the Pain one hurts the most for sure
Face pain? Like the Ultimate Slap Championship or the Ultimate Slapionship?
yeah lmao changed to that weird espn fortnite music
Not really a change to the company structure but the UFC not allowing Ariel Helwani at the events was a pretty harsh moment.
In all fairness the guy literally somehow got a hold of the fact that Brock Lesnar was coming back for the first time in 5 years, which I can imagine would have probably only been known by the top brass of the company, and leaked it before they announced it at UFC 199. So you can kinda see why Dana was pissed. If memory serves me I think Dana also got him banned from the press coverage of MayMac, which was only the year after.
1) the Reebok deal and loss of sponsorships
2) changing to the Legacy Championship in 2018 from the UFC version of The Big Gold Belt
(I swear I didn't skip ahead naming these they were completely coincidental)
Ik the apex was built to hold fight cards without the COVID restrictions being broken by inviting a crowd of fans to watch, but it amazes me that Dana didn't have it built to eventually hold fans when the restrictions were lifted, or that he hasn't already started construction for it to hold fans since they could turn it into the perfect arena for the UFC and make millions from it
It wasnt built to holds cards during covid, it happened to be near completion as they entered lock down, it is built to hold a small crowd and be used for shows like TUF, other promotions on fight pass, and small crowd ufc events. It is not intended to be an arena and having it big enough to be would be a waste of resources
its small, you can only fit a couple hundred at most. also kind of a high security area because it's still part of the PI. a lot of the fighters like the apex because they can hear their coaching better. i dont mind them honestly but i hate how the cards have gotten weaker
Yeah, there was that fairly recent even that was a bit bigger than the Apex, had a bit of a crowd there. That I liked (although the walk ways were a little too narrow for the fighters and security IMO). I'd rather something that.
11:44 there’s no way the old belts cost $300,000
Lol DJ has $3 million worth of belts? Not on Dana's watch
The belts were releathered replicas, they cost like less than a grand to produce. Hell you yourself could buy a replica and have it releathered for less than a grand so every belt they made was chump change prices
The fact is if I didn’t have to pay 2 days wage on UFC fights I’d pay for every last event but I can’t afford to watch one
Face the pain is so iconic
Still miss the.
"And here we go"
Yeah Anik doesn’t have his own iconic lines the same way that Goldy did
@@Domtooboss its not the cloth from where which he is cut is iconic af! goldy is just nostalgic
@@acridmushroom cool line may be fresh in everyone’s mind right now but it wont be remembered the same way and it’s exclusive to one specific moment and can’t be used the same way as “ here we go”
It’s all over!!!
What I really miss all the Fight Pass exclusive cards not that fight pass isn't worth only nowadays but back then it kind of made the incentive to do so that much sweeter when they added the exclusive cards
They should do grappling only events at the Apex.
It's a paycheck, it promotes fighters, lower risk for fighters since they aren't taking strikes to the face, they don't have to prepare as vigorously, and fighters wouldn't be putting their record or rank on the line.
Fury Pro Grappling 6 was fun.
I like the fighter kits, BUT they should be allowed to put sponsors on their shorts. Make them limited so it doesn't get too out of hand. The uniform look does look cleaner, but there has to be give and take on these fight kits.
The WWE gimmick name ideas for the PPVs could've worked if they added numbers with the names every year like how WWE keeps track of the WrestleManias
I hate how dirty the UFC did Goldie, but Jon Anik has quickly become my favorite commentator. Dude's such a pro, you can tell he truly loves the sport, really cares about doing his job well, and puts in his best effort every event. And every now and again he'll say some insane shit about custody battles or laugh like Mickey Mouse, and it's great.
Anik was the perfect replacement for Goldie who by his later years had become very repetitive and stale with his fight starting and ending calls. I do agree that Goldie was done dirty and he deserves a an induction into the Contributor Wing of the UFC HOF.
I'm still a fan of the old title look. Reminds me of the WCW championship which looked dope af
I love how the UFC still does the Face The Pain intros live at the actual events. Makes you feel nostalgic when you hear it.
Really? This is awesome to hear as I’m going to my first event next week for 287 in Miami!
@@lupe103344522 Yeup! I’ve been to UFC 232, UFC 245, UFC 270, UFC 272, and a couple of fight nights recently and they all have done the Face the Pain intros it’s epic seeing it on the big screen
Although not major, I miss the old post fight press conferences when ALL the fighters would be present in the room after the event was over.
What a eye opener to how different things are now . The days of the Tito chuck rivalry are my favorite and the original ultimate fighter first few seasons idk the spike era . Big gold belt check , face the pain check, mike Goldberg check, personally check!
The old belt wasn't worth $300,000. The price to make it was about $2,000 to 16,000 tops, the priciest to make was supposedly the 'BMF' belt, per Dana White - $50,000. The legacy belt or the new one, is three times more expensive to make than the old one. The first google search result isn't always the best one ;)
Doesn’t make it better does it?
The UFC actually used the Face the Pain intro for UFC 300, I almost shed a tear
A wave of nostalgia just hit me with all the entries in this video
It's a way more special treat when you go and watch a LIVE UFC event because they actually still do the full-blown Face the Pain intros for the live crowds, even for the Fight Night cards---though they're no longer on the televised broadcasts at home.
My first PPV was UFC 100 and seeing that intro blew my 12 year old mind lmao I still love "face the pain" to this day
Face pain? The Ultimate Slap Championship or the Ultimate Slapionship?
3:28 that Guru laugh 😅
Jon Anik's laugh sounds awfully transgender
My gawd you don’t know or maybe you do. How much of a nostalgia trip is the gladiator face the pain intro! Loved it just as much as hearing ITS TIME!!!
Dropping the face the pain intro is what hurt me most....
I LOVE apex cards, hearing all the strikes land, and the corners yelling instructions is always such a treat. Some crowds(not many, but some) just ruin events for me.
I’ve never been so early for an mma on point video, GOD do I love hearing Tommy in the intro
Same, popped up right when i took my lunch break! Lol
Those excessively long UFC events were painful during the FOX era. So many commercials and filler content.
I loved when dana rolled out a literal box of cash for some youtubers who were already quite wealthy. While simultaneously paying his fights bread crumbs
2:30 i grew up to his calling “ brought to you by budlight “ or “ and its all over “ and “ JUST. LIKE. THIS”
Man i have such a huge appreciation for the content this channel puts out, keep up the great work yall 🙏🏽
Showing the fighter’s highlights and face the pain in the back ground is peak ufc saturday for me.
All that stuff w/ Goldie wouldn't have happened if The UFC was transparent and had alittle bit of a send off tribute for him, like a little clip montage or something like that. I like Anik and in a lot of ways he is way better than Goldie but I still miss him.
Same. Give him some kind of tribute, a hall of fame spot for the teams that helped deliver that early UFC energy
UFC flushed him down the toilet, it's a shame. Love or hate Goldie, the guy put in the work and earned a good send off and place in the UFC hall of fame
I have to admit, I miss face the pain, it must be nostalgia taking over. As far as the belts go, the old belts are far superior, but still not nearly as cool at the Pride belts.
I miss the post fight presser with all the fighters at once. How did that not make the list?
I swear in this day and age it’s almost primitive to pay to watch live PPV’s 😂
someone has to buy it to stream it to the rest of us lmao
Anik is a master of his craft.
This list could easily be top 25. Hope you make a few follow ups.
I still miss mike goldberg. He was a goof but he stood out and there's nothing better than the moments where Joe corrected him. Who knows how many amazing exchanges we missed between them that could have been
The old belt looks way better than the new one. The new one looks like a Power Ranger could've wore in a fight.
People say the old belt looks like a WWE belt but to me the new one does even more. I honestly don't think there's a problem with them looking like pro wrestling belts anyway.
Face The Pain is iconic don’t get me wrong, but Ron Pearlman narrating the Cold Opens on every PPV gets me even MORE hyped. That’s just me tho 🤷🏾♂️
Reebok/venom deal surely. No unique gear anymore it's so dull
I love the Apex environment. The quiet cage is SO MUCH BETTER during the fights. It just needs a full size cage and better booking.
Having to be Subscribed to ESPN+ just to even be able to buy the ppv is the worst
I loved the iconic old belt wish they'd used it improvising with just adding gems.
Undisputed 3 is the goat. Fighters felt so unique because you could individually go in and change the move sets for a created fighter. If you wanted to really focus on certain strikes you could, you could give a better personality in my opinion
I *Absolutely* *LOVE* the fact that *Tonmy* *ToeHold* has been doing almost all the *New* *Videos!!!* I hope he does them *ALL!!*
Tommy > Jason > Bayliun
@@BatCaveOz For sure. Bayliun is by Far the worst. But Nobody is close to Tommy ToeHold. Everyone knows he's the reason we watch!!
Tournaments in sports truly are the best, especially when a title (or something equivalent) is on the line and not just bragging rights. That's why WWE's King & Queen of the Ring is so popular too this day, despite it being held in Saudi Arabia instead of literally anywhere else. Also Impact Wrestling had an awesome mashup tournament in 2019 that may not fit the UFC but could fit the EFC.
Did they add Dan Hardy’s “Stop the fight” for that Silva vs Iceman video game section!! Lmao it’s the little things they do here
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The price increase isn't from people watching free. It's more to do with greed and the bloat of not fit for purpose hires that comes with a company growing as quickly and as profitable as UFC did.
Reebok deal better be on top of this list
Funnily enough, I’ve always hated the new belts, but lately they’ve truly grown on me. So much cleaner and I love the ruby idea
What I hate is that you still have to pay for the ppv when you have ESPN + when wrestling PPVs are free on peacock
You should make one on how sucky the Reebock deal was...for fans and fighters (if you haven't already and I just missed it).
I think they did but yeah, I honestly do miss the sponsored shorts they looked way cooler and obviously got the fighters way more money
There is a site where you can watch it 1080p, and every fight comes 1-1:30h after it had happened , not enough time to get spoiled because mostly everybody is sleeping (the main card starts usualy around 4am where I live and the fight of the night is usually around 7) so what that meens is not only does it not make sence to pay for it if youre living in this region, but by relying on this site what saves the fights as well and categories them (by date and organization of happening) Im actually forced to get a good nights sleep and watch the whole thing first time in the morning. You just cant say no to that unless your career depends on it like yours making this awesome content for us. That being said, sorry Tommy hope you hate us a bit less with this apology 😅 amazing video like always!!!
Fight Night cards getting weaker after they stopped being free is a bummer.
I like the new belts tbh
I miss mid week events and how there would regular breaks between fight cards, made the events mean a bit more. The current UFC schedule is just like prime WWF, near on every week with out fail, touring the world putting on monthly PPV's.
Tournaments/Grand Prix would be good for divisions with dominant champs, especially if that champ is trying to take another belt.
Thank you I’ve been saying this for ages. Sometimes less is more
Personally I absolutely love the fights on almost every Saturday
Did I hear you say the old belts cost $300k each? I find that hard to believe as many of the belts we saw on TV were replicas re-leathered by Paul Martin (from the clip used in this video). I doubt Dana is even close on this figure. Great video though!
5:06 "Stop the fight!" Lmaoooo perfectly placed
UFC would make so much more money if the PPV was $30.
The new UFC belt has grown on me but initially I absolutely hated it lol 😂
You forgot a BIG one! Fighters aren't allowed to walk out with a flag representing their country anymore
I actually quite like the look of the new belt. And the idea of adding gems for every defense making your belt even more unique is better than just getting a new Normal one every time. The old belt just looked old and out dated although I’ll admit, pretty iconic
My thoughts exactly. The new belts look great. A simple modern design and the gems for defenses are a nice touch.
I kinda like the new belts, but the old belts were 300,000 a pop so D. Johnson has 10 old style do the math.
@@alstone9543 The new belts are $330K.
@tekanatoken that's just one belt now, that's 330,000 for one, what are the gems worth?
I don't really get it's "outdated" the only reason you could realistically say that is because it's no longer current.
Of course something like aesthetic is a subjective statement. Vut i definitely think the new belt is super hideous looking. That "sleek" look is honestly just bland and boring. Like people who do their whole house in white or grey
I still remember why they stopped titling the events because they had “knockout” for one of them and not a single knockout happened 😂
Love the new belt and the uniform idea. Hate the fighters lost a lot of money, but it made the sport look more professional and legit by going the uniform route. 300K per belt is ridiculous!!!! One belt idea was really needed!!!
Very accurate list. I was also disappointed when they got rid of "Stitch"
I really was not a fan of the new belt at first. However, something about seeing the adesanya vs gastelum fight made it feel more okay. That fight was insane and it showed just how much the sport had evolved. You had en elite striker like izzy throwing up triangles to create scrambles from the bottom and the iconic “im prepared to die” - the sport had clearly evolved and I was more okay with the belt evolving too
What are u on about
They didn't evolve the belt, they made it cheaper to save money. If anything they devolved the belt, it looks fake and tacky compared to the original
crazy that i have the exact same thought! I think that single event/fight got me really accustomed to it
I love the apex fights tho. You can hear the coaches, hear the hits and kicks land. It´s awesome imo
agreed, I love hearing the thud of a good shot
That effect wore off after like 3 events in the apex, it’s not that special
Also apex should only be used for TUF and DWCS unless we get another situation like 3 years ago
@@pluto5618 nah, each to their own, i like hearing what the coaches yell. Most of the time that´s more interesting than the commentary as I can see what´s happening.
I actually like the new belt design better but I really thought it was cool how the champ would get a belt for each defense back then
They still do atleast islam got a new belt after his volkanovski defence
I hate the inconsistency of the judges scorecards ever since legalize gambling got involved
We need like a top 5 or top 10 list of urban legends in the ufc that turned out to be true lol
What would be an example?
I miss the old tale of the tape track. That symphonic music is so cool.
As an old fan i like the new belt I think adding jewels for the title defenses is a unique idea and kinda a cool incentive imo
Too bad it’s gonna be like 5 years for the first completion lol. Valentina was ONE win away and she blew it 😭
@@WPC799 hey bro, things happen. But again, fair play to Alexa Grasso. Congrats to her becoming a champion
I think a new belt would be more incentive then a stupid jewel
I kinda prefer the look of trunks without a bunch of sponsors on it but it irritates the hell outta me that the fighters can’t have sponsors but they can fight inside a chain link nascar jacket while ads are read by the commentary team between rounds and sometimes during the fights.
Everytime Tommy says "I'm Tommy from... MMA On Point," he sounds like he REALLY wants to say "I'm Tommy from the Tommy Toe Hold Show" 🥺
Shout out to the pirates for causing dana to have a blood pressure monitor at every show
This list is spot on. You really nailed all the big gripes.
I personally can't stand that "AHHHHH DUM DUM AHHHHHH DUM DUM AHHHHHH" theme they use when previewing other cards and in between fights. Genuinely the worst shit ever. The intros with fighters getting a chance to cut a promo before going into the highlights with "Face The Pain" as the gladiator walks to the light was IT.
If you could bottle that up, it'd be the best drug on the planet.